00:06:41.260This has been a liberal safe seat, a stronghold, as they call it all over left-wing corporate media, since 1988.
00:06:49.740It's been held by the liberals since 1988, and they lost it in the by-election yesterday.
00:06:57.740So, of course, the left-wing corporate media is freaking out over this, and here's what the CBC had to say about it.
00:07:03.560We're going to begin this Tuesday morning with breaking news in the closely watched federal by-election of Toronto St. Paul's.
00:07:11.160Conservative Don Stewart has won the longtime liberal stronghold.
00:07:15.920This is a stunning result in a seat the liberals have held for more than 30 years,
00:07:20.940one that's sure to ignite more questions around the political future of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
00:07:26.540The dramatic vote count lasted into the early hours of this morning,
00:07:31.060with Stewart taking the lead with just the final batch of votes.0.89
00:07:34.920Marianne's going to lead off our coverage this morning with this nail-biter of an outcome.
00:07:39.660It really was, Heather, because polls closed at 8.30 p.m. Eastern last night, but that ballot counting, it lasted into the night, into the overnight hours. It wasn't until about 4 a.m. Eastern when we finally got this result.
00:07:52.360I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm chuckling all the way through the CBC report, right? Because this nail-biter of an outcome. It's so very serious that the Liberals have lost. You can tell the CBC is worried.
00:08:06.680All of the other Marxist corporate media is absolutely worried as well because this is a bellwether for the country
00:08:12.280If you can lose a safe seat like the Liberals lost last night, granted it wasn't by much
00:08:18.740But even if the Liberals had won this seat by 10% or less, it should have set off alarm bells all through the Liberal Party of Canada
00:08:27.760That Justin Trudeau needs to go. We're going to get to that in just a second, but let's finish this thing up here
00:08:33.860that Conservative candidate Don Stewart won the riding of Toronto St. Paul's
00:08:37.960with a 590-vote win over Liberal candidate Leslie Church.
00:08:41.900The reason why it took so long for these votes to be counted
00:08:44.040is because there were a record 84 names on the ballot.
00:08:47.960The ballot itself was about a metre long,
00:08:49.760though many of those names on the ballot were activists
00:08:52.360running in protests of Canada's first-past-the-post voting system.
00:08:56.180Now, Stewart's win means major change in this riding.
00:08:58.920As you heard Heather say, this has been a Liberal stronghold for more than three decades.
00:09:03.100The by-election itself was to replace former Liberal MP and Cabinet Minister Carolyn Bennett,
00:09:08.200who represented this riding for 26 years before retiring.
00:09:12.020But important to know that a Conservative candidate has not been competitive in this riding of Toronto St. Paul's since the 1980s.
00:09:19.040Here's more from Don Stewart last night before these results were released.
00:09:25.260There's a message that our voters would like to send to Mr. Trudeau, and that's one of change.
00:09:30.160the only way to get that is by electing a conservative government so all right all right
00:09:36.380enough cbc enough cbc we want to get the reaction from the two main liberals in this country and
00:09:42.560here's deputy pm and finance minister christy of freeland and she does not look or sound happy
00:09:49.020the result in saint paul is certainly disappointing
00:09:53.260you think our government is focused on working hard for canada and canadians
00:10:03.480and on delivering results for canada and canadians that is what the prime minister is focused on
00:10:09.760that is what we are all focused on the prime minister is committed to leading us into the
00:10:16.840next election and he has our support. We know that these are hard times for
00:10:23.980Canadians. We know that we have to work hard to earn back their trust and we
00:10:30.820know that the way to do that is by delivering for them. By delivering
00:10:35.860fairness for every generation, by delivering investments in housing and
00:10:41.020and infrastructure, including rural broadband, the investment we're announcing today.
00:10:48.560Does she sound morally defeated to you?
00:10:52.580To me, she looks and sounds like, that's it, game over.
00:10:56.620I'm just going to sit here and list off these talking points and I don't know what next.
00:11:01.920Maybe start making plans for the future, like becoming the chairman of the board of the World
00:16:04.780I'm no Ernest Hemingway by any means. I'm not actually even a writer. I'm just a redneck
00:16:09.720Cape Breton boy who had a story to tell. It's a true story based on how I grew up,
00:16:14.740how I became a conservative, how the conservatives, I'm still a conservative, but the parties threw me
00:16:19.600under the bus. And we created a solution in Nova Scotia, and we're running a movement town here
00:16:25.520to run 55 independent candidates in the next provincial election, force the province into
00:16:32.520a position minority position with enough independence that we tie their hands and they
00:16:36.760can't do a single thing without approval of the independence and we're well underway to
00:16:40.640accomplishing that right now tim houston last week came out and said uh he's not bound by the
00:16:45.420election he set up a uh a predetermined election date and then came out last week and said well
00:16:50.840that doesn't actually apply to him so okay now let me let me interrupt you right there and
00:16:56.600let you know that the reason that it took so long to count those ballots in toronto st paul's last
00:17:01.600night is because there was something like fifty eight candidates on the ballot and fifty of them
00:17:07.000were activists who were protesting the fact that canada hasn't changed the voting or the election
00:17:13.360system as trudeau promised in twenty fifteen it's still first passed the post and so that's why it
00:17:18.180took so long to count those votes because apparently the ballot was a meter long so none of these none
00:17:24.100of these independents got any votes really so you've been running a program i suppose um
00:17:31.460to awaken people to what's really going on and to try and get them away from party voting how have
00:17:38.460you done this so so we have very unique numbers in nova scotia 45 percent of nova scotians didn't
00:17:44.360vote in the last election we're targeting them very specifically and we're focusing our efforts
00:17:49.520on the outlying rural communities where we don't have to swing that many votes
00:17:53.140tim houston won seven seats by less than 400 votes and he's you know he's only holding on to
00:17:59.880a shoestring majority i was on a zoom call last night with enough people that are going to run
00:18:05.140that just on that one call is enough to do what we want to accomplish here in nova scotia we can
00:18:09.460get 12 people elected we change it all so peter what's your pitch when you go are you going door
00:18:13.940to door knocking on people's doors and saying hey did you vote in the last election if not why not
00:18:18.560and would you like some change in the government is that what you're doing no the best thing that
00:18:23.140ever happened was covet covet uh brought together a whole series of small groups that became
00:18:29.780connected. And our job as an independent teaching society is to bring those small groups together
00:18:36.260all across the province. People that were told when the government was saying, you guys,
00:18:39.760you don't have general support. Well, it turns out we were being lied to all along because there
00:18:44.260was a whole ton of people that when the COVID pressure got put on them, all these independent
00:18:49.760thinkers and leaders seemed to pop to the surface. And we're in the process of bringing those people
00:18:55.440together and unifying them from one end of the province to the other so it all started grassroots
00:18:59.720most of it started in kitchens with five six seven eight people and then it grows to 15 20 20 to 40
00:19:05.62040 to 80 uh you know upwards of 100 150 people showing up at things that we do now and we're
00:19:12.380let me ask you peter are there people who who are against you aside from the political parties are
00:19:18.000there people who roll their eyes and say to you ah it's never going to happen it's a pipe dream
00:19:22.780Well, actually, there are a few, but I'll tell you this.
00:19:24.840Once we finish the presentation, I've yet to have anybody that didn't agree with the perspective that we put in.
00:19:29.840We actually have a legitimate shot to do what we want to do.
00:19:33.120We're not trying to completely overthrow a party.
00:19:36.220We just want to create a minority government where the independents are going to be bound by a performance contract with the people they work with to put them in power.
00:19:45.880It's going to be the same as if you're hired, for example, by a company.
00:19:48.680you'll have planks to push in a certain time frame and if you don't meet your requirements
00:19:54.260and fulfill your promises to the people that elected you they're going to be able to sue0.98
00:19:59.280you for breach of contract and fire your ass excellent do you ask do you ask do you ask the0.98
00:20:05.520people who haven't voted maybe they haven't voted in 20 years or they did decided not to vote in the1.00
00:20:09.960last election whatever it is do you ask them why they haven't voted what reason do they give you
00:20:21.740They can't keep them, and then we're stuck with them.
00:20:24.020And basically, they're saying all the parties are basically wings of the same bird.
00:20:27.780So for the first time in Nova Scotia, they're going to have a legitimate group of independent people chosen by the community, not by candidate selection committees, by grassroots support in their own communities to run.
00:20:43.700people come say we'd like to run i said unless you get the backing of your community we can't
00:20:48.100help you but once your community decides to back you and you sign a contract now you're you've got
00:20:53.480yourself in a legal binding agreement go and actually represent people and do what you promise
00:20:58.500to do and if you break your word you get the hook and out the door you go so you have reached out to
00:21:04.200people in all 55 writings across nova scotia uh we still got a few that we have left to get into
00:21:10.680too, but our goal is 55, and we're determined to hit it prior to the next election. We have some
00:21:16.380roadblocks. We just had a major contributor in the last few days. We have one legal challenge
00:21:21.020that we have to jump. Here in Nova Scotia, you have to get a chartered accountant. We have over
00:21:27.3404,000 chartered accountants in Nova Scotia, and there are 142 of them on our list that can do
00:21:32.660audits of campaigns. And we had a person initially wanted to run for an independent and found out
00:21:39.960through the back door that if we table 55 candidates, they weren't going to be able to
00:21:44.680get those people. And it's a violation of Section 3 of the Charter. The province put an artificial
00:21:49.400roadblock for independent candidates. We're bringing a good court challenge here, and we
00:21:54.020hope to have our court date set by Friday. And we're pretty sparse on funds, and the funds that
00:22:00.560we do have are being directed at this campaign and remove any roadblocks so we can get done what we
00:22:06.200intend to do well by god canada you watch out what we're going to do down here in nova scotia
00:22:10.460because we're trying to do the same thing in bc with independent bc and the goal if we can do it
00:22:15.840here uh that'll be the blueprint nationwide and we're convinced we're going to do it well here's
00:22:21.520ken drysdale with manitoba stronger together and hey ken you're on mute right now just so you're
00:22:26.600aware uh is this the exact same thing that you are trying to accomplish in manitoba it's very
00:22:33.060similar except manitoba stronger together is not a party it's a non-partisan group when and what
00:22:38.240we're doing is we're educating the the voters we're creating community and then we're similar
00:22:43.800to what peter's doing we have focused our efforts on the 14 of 57 ridings in manitoba that went for
00:22:50.320a margin of less than a thousand votes and what kind of success are you are you breaking through
00:22:56.520to people it seems as though manitoba seems far more apathetic than nova scotia at least at this
00:23:01.600stage. Yeah, we've got a long way to go. And a lot of what we've been doing over the last eight
00:23:08.680months is creating community. And that was a lot of what we did over the past weekend. And
00:23:14.280the group has, quite frankly, transformed as a result of that. And I think that's the key to
00:23:21.340this is creating a community that people feel safe in, they feel supported in, and then they'll
00:23:26.400come out and vote in is that what you found peter in nova scotia well just to be clear we're not a
00:23:31.940party either all we are is a teaching society and and and so once people get explained to them the
00:23:38.080failures of the party system because here's what happens uh it doesn't matter if ken got elected
00:23:42.980tomorrow if i got elected tomorrow irregardless of my good intentions the second you're voted in
00:23:47.640you're told to sit down shut up do what you're told your hands are tied and an independent is
00:23:52.520not bound by any of that they can table legislation without approval and by the time we talk in any
00:23:57.480venue we have the complete room people start off sitting back in their chair arms and leg crossed
00:24:02.900by the time we leave in every single presentation we make people are on the edge of their chairs
00:24:07.100going holy hell this can actually work so basically we're in the business of selling hope coast to
00:24:11.800Nova Scotia let me ask you this if you let's just say you get 28 MLAs elected with all of these
00:24:20.080independents that means that you have the majority in the legislature you would have to form a
00:24:26.120government with all of these people who are independents who may not agree on things
00:24:29.800how would that work uh we have we have a legal solution to that there is there is a formula
00:24:36.440that you can actually take those numbers with the majority and go to the lieutenant governor
00:24:41.460and ask for a change in the way the system is set up we've actually consulted with a lawyer on that
00:24:46.040But ultimately, that's not the goal, guys. We'd be more than happy. Ultimately, the goal is to get enough people to so that the party who will do anything that they have to to save their skins and stay in power, that we can table independent legislation and start hacking away at the damage that has been done.
00:25:03.780and those folks will have to concede or will force them into a force them into another election
00:25:10.260and then good luck with them running the next election when they don't want to pass some of
00:25:14.400the stuff that we want passed you got to remember that as an independent you're not bound by you
00:25:19.160can discuss virtually anything your hands aren't tied and you're not sifted up it sounds interesting
00:25:26.440do you think that that style or that model can would have any impact in manitoba or any other
00:25:32.740province? Absolutely. And there's precedence for this in Canada. The legislature of the
00:25:38.080territory of Nunavut is run that way. There's no parties there. And they get together. Once
00:25:43.520elected, the MPs get together and they elect a leader. And if they can't elect it, there's a
00:25:50.200number of legal avenues to them that are open for them. And, you know, I want to also say that the
00:25:57.120party system absolutely doesn't work, but it's also the lazy candidates way. And what I mean by
00:26:02.840that is they get voted in because they're a red or a green or a blue or a purple. And so they never
00:26:07.800have to bother to go to the constituency. And one of the magic things about the independent is they
00:26:12.700can't rely on the green or blue or red stripe on their back. And they've got to go out and have
00:26:18.220town halls. They're going to meet people. They got to listen to the constituents. Other words,
00:26:21.840they don't get elected so being an independent is is really the representative way and it's and
00:26:27.840it's the way to defeat these party system so what what's involved in this contract that these
00:26:34.000independent candidates have to sign peter so basically what it does out it's based on nova
00:26:39.440scotia contractual law but it can be it can be changed to suit any province's legislation or
00:26:45.300legal contracts and basically it says here's the planks that we want you to go take to the
00:26:50.600legislature. Here's the laws that we want changed. And then here's your timelines. And if you don't
00:26:55.600meet those timelines and you don't do what you promised that you're going to do, or you try to
00:26:59.200cross the floor or you break any laws or you're convicted of any number of things, it's all laid
00:27:03.360out in the contract. It's the same as if you were hired by a major company here that we expected you
00:27:07.580do in this timeframe. If you don't do it, then you're in breach of contract and breach of contract
00:27:12.220under Nova Scotia law. We are going to fire your ass and we'll have to go back to another by-election0.99
00:27:20.200All the independents we're talking to, they're looking for four-year turns, get in, be a wrecking ball, fix stuff, and then go back to your life.
00:27:27.140We're not interested in long-term people that want to jump sideways in the trough for the next 12, 16 years.0.92
00:27:48.340All you need to do, for example, on the town hall, if you had 150, 250, 300 people,
00:27:53.440and mostly those will be the people that will stand up and speak up and can't be pushed around.
00:27:58.140A lot of those are just natural born leaders in the community.
00:28:00.940And those folks, what we're ideally looking for is people who don't want to run.
00:28:04.260Tell you the truth, virtually every one of these people has to be talked into it,
00:28:07.580which tells me they're going to do it for the right reason,
00:28:09.920not because they want a two-year pension after two years or they want six-figure income.
00:28:14.740They're there for the great reason. And virtually all these people had to be talked in to do it and say, if not me, who?
00:28:21.280And if not now, when? I got seven grandchildren that are saying, Grampy, what are you going to do?
00:28:25.980If not us, who? And if not now, when? I mean, right now, guys, in Nova Scotia, we get another we get another government under Tim Houston for the next four years.
00:28:35.100You won't be able to recognize Nova Scotia. Same thing federally.
00:28:38.160Sure. It gets in for another another stint. This country's gone.
00:28:41.020yeah um when is the election well they're supposed to down here like the government went in and they
00:28:50.700they had a preset date for i think it's july 15th next year but tim houston last week did a news
00:28:56.920conference said well that doesn't really apply to me even though we made the new laws we may go to
00:29:01.120an election early and i just get information today from a reliable source that he plans on calling
00:29:05.960the election as early as august 3rd dropped the writ and then go to an election uh in early
00:29:11.300september provided the polls are in his favor because he doesn't like what we're doing breathing
00:29:16.560down his neck so are you prepared for that uh yes we are and i'm not going to say anymore
00:29:24.160all right peter thank you for coming on today we appreciate how do we find you online where
00:29:29.340where is the website uh you can go over to independent i-n-d-e-p-e-n-d-e-n-t-n-s dot net
00:29:36.960and then if people want to know exactly what our plan is it's the very last chapter in my book
00:29:42.580by the way that made it to number one in three categories which was a heck of a surprise to me
00:29:46.840yeah the redneck can't or sorry the redneck conservative how conservatives are made you
00:29:51.140talk about how uh people like candace owens and thomas soul became uh conservatives along their
00:29:59.020life journeys it's sounds pretty interesting to me well it actually is and people don't know this
00:30:04.340but on amazon they give you your five first chapters free and i put a very specific quote
00:30:10.020in the third chapter to make sure that's where liberals stop reading and if you guys if you get
00:30:16.760a chance you can go look at the digital version version and read that and i there's actually a
00:30:21.380trigger warning on the book online that said if you're a liberal reading this you know your head
00:30:25.420might explode did you put that in for a joke or did they make you do that no no i i put that in
00:30:30.660on my own and i meant everything that i said guys because i said at the i said you know that i had
00:30:35.020a trigger warning and i said that this this is definitely politically incorrect and i'm not i'm
00:30:39.940serious guys if c63 goes through the book will be banned and i'm going to find myself you know
00:31:13.300All right, we'll talk to you again. There is Peter McIsaac, the author of the best-selling book, The Redneck Conservative, How Conservatives Are Made Available on Amazon, number one in three different categories. Ken, congratulations on a fantastic weekend, my friend. You did such a great job. Rosalie, too, and Chris, Riddell, how do you feel a couple of days after it's been over?
00:31:36.780still tired and by the way don't forget yourself this would have never happened and folks should
00:31:43.000know you had a tough gig you know shadow hosted five of the six panels and um you know being on
00:31:51.540stage live with no rehearsal with anywhere between six and nine people wow i wouldn't have wanted to
00:31:58.620done that that it felt more like 12 panels to be honest because of all the running you know we're
00:32:05.500doing the panel and then emily i want to thank emily um she was amazing just saying shadow we
00:32:13.240need you in five minutes you have to be here you have to be there she was fantastic and you know
00:32:17.200it came to the point where we have this other uh pretty amazing independent journalist called jason
00:32:22.440levine uh who was in attendance this past weekend and i was i i needed a break on the sunday morning
00:32:29.040and so i asked jason if he would uh host one of the panels and he did a fantastic job on the uh
00:32:34.000on the food panel jason welcome to the show and thank you for coming on quickly before we talk
00:32:38.000about the stronger together conference you were in court in lethbridge today and you were suggesting
00:32:43.440that something different happened today that you haven't seen before what i do have to forewarn you
00:32:50.240is that it was all publication ban so i have to be high level general but we were definitely going
00:32:54.400through a whole bunch of evidence trying to make some decisions about it and it just kind of kept
00:32:58.800getting away from the judge and we were looking at possibly being there till 11 pm tonight
00:33:03.840that would be very unusual but the judge was very adamant that we need to get through this evidence
00:33:07.920and make some decisions i can't tell you what evidence and i can't tell you what the decisions
00:33:11.840were but it was an eye-opening conversation and uh if we say thin ice is what the crown is sitting
00:33:18.480on we'd be lying it's even thinner than that so uh as soon as i can get more of the information
00:33:23.520to you i will and i just want to dovetail on what you said there about the conference
00:33:27.600I had a great mentor to watch, so I got to watch you do the panels for quite some time,
00:33:31.580and I just followed into your big shoes, and thank you for allowing me to do that.
00:33:36.260It was a lot of fun to have these panels.
00:35:46.360Julie, this is your first time on the show, whereas Ken has been on, I think this is the 12th time now,
00:35:53.220so he gets a second set of steak knives.
00:35:57.100Levine's been on a few times, but this is the first time for you.
00:35:59.560We're going to bring Maggie Hope Braun on in just a second.
00:36:02.200Please tell us what you do, where we can find you, what you talk about.
00:36:07.340Well, actually, yeah, it's kind of long and complicated.
00:36:10.660So I was an independent journalist for this website called globalresearch.ca.
00:36:16.360which some of you might know, some of your viewers might know.
00:36:20.320I was there for like six years, and basically what I wrote about was war propaganda.
00:36:26.620And then H1N1 happened, and that really opened my eyes on Big Pharma
00:36:34.660and the big conflicts of interest with the WHO and everything.
00:36:38.380And then I left after six years to go to China to teach English
00:36:42.220because you know being an independent journalist is not very good money so I needed to pay my
00:36:49.500debts so I went to China for five years and I was there when this whole thing happened
00:36:53.240so when COVID started so I came back to Canada and I've been doing lots of networking and I was
00:37:00.100back into into journalism at that time but mostly what I do on my website is actually I started that
00:37:08.8202017 so I left a global research in 2015 and then 2017 I started my own website
00:37:14.820and the goal was to write complaints to the media and the press council and
00:37:21.300Quebec and so I did that a few times maybe four or five times but they banned
00:37:27.600me at some point because they said it was always the same she's always
00:37:32.160complaining about the same thing well it's always the same mistakes so that's
00:37:35.700It's not my fault. So anyways, I was banned. And what I did during during covid was that, you know, columnists, especially before the vaccine passport came into effect.
00:37:50.000I since I could not write complaints, I wrote a complaint that and I asked the citizens to send them.
00:37:56.000So instead of having one person send them a complaint, they had like hundreds.
00:37:59.760and uh they actually actually it did not work because you know they rejected the complaint
00:38:05.860but it worked in a way because um they were really really pissed off they they actually
00:38:13.680called this this uh campaign a worrying obstacle to journalistic work so they rolled a whole
00:38:20.920article about this saying oh this is very dangerous sort of like dangerous to our democracy you know
00:38:26.600it's it's yeah right to harm the work of journalists and so on you know so but it works
00:38:32.260and i really want to push people to do that you know write complaints to press councils and to
00:38:37.480the media because they don't like it and it makes them work because they have to reply
00:38:42.100and those replies are gold you know well it also engages people into the system right whereas
00:38:48.840before they may have just kind of sat back and went i don't like this but i don't know what to
00:38:52.760do that's what the stronger together conference i suppose was all about at its core let's bring
00:38:58.480maggie hope brawn in maggie was on i don't know how many panels i thought there was like a dozen
00:39:03.700panels ken but it felt like but there was six i think maggie was on at least half of the maggie
00:39:09.320welcome to the show thank you for coming back thank you for having me good to see everyone again
00:39:14.140Yeah, so I'm going to ask all of you what your favorite part of the Stronger Together Conference this past weekend was.
00:43:15.740Jason, what's your favorite recollection?
00:43:17.980Because you got there late Friday night, I think, and you showed up Saturday morning very early at the conference.
00:43:24.900I did, and I'll let you know my journey on Friday.
00:43:27.780I jumped out in the car right after court, made it to the airport, did my show from the airport, jumped on a plane, flew there, went to the hotel, slept.
00:43:37.060So sorry I missed part of Friday, but it was a wonderful experience nonetheless.
00:43:40.480But my favorite moment has to be the Garnett Harper story where we heard from Megan, Devon, and Gal.
00:43:47.980But I think the most important part of there was the vindication that Dr. Cote and Trosey provided to this family.
00:43:55.580They understood that Garnett made the right choice.
00:43:59.280And if he was to do something like get vaccinated in that state, it would have been even worse for him.
00:44:03.840So unfortunately, I think what we learned from there is he was murdered by the system in Ontario
00:44:10.300because there was no reason not to go ahead and give him his transplant.
00:44:14.140and then of course a shocking ending which was Trillium calling up and said hey can we have his
00:44:19.240organs uh after we killed him uh that to me I'll never forget that you know I had to ask the
00:44:25.400question um to Megan that's Garnett's widow by the way for you guys who don't know um did you
00:44:33.640ever urge him to take the shot so he could get the transplant surgery I had to ask that question
00:44:38.740because i believe that that's a conversation many couples may have had and she said absolutely she
00:44:45.200looked at me like i was crazy when i asked that question she said no no i would never have asked
00:44:51.600him that because i know what his answer would have been in the first place and if he had done that
00:44:56.260he wouldn't have been garnet anymore correct which was an absolutely amazing thing it's like
00:45:03.620you're selling your soul at that point and yeah and yeah it was heavy right because i know that
00:45:12.380most of the people who are involved in what we're doing which is seeking truth looking for answers
00:45:17.780wanting to fix things get things back on a common sense axis right we know that we have to do these
00:45:25.340things and anything we do to compromise ourselves is going to compromise the movement ken were you
00:45:30.900happy overall with everything that happened this past weekend oh absolutely it was it was wonderful
00:45:36.420i mean we had a vision of what this would how this would come together because it had nothing's
00:45:42.380been done like this before in canada you know it's appropriate that it was done in manitoba
00:45:47.020um it it it it's it's hard to describe unless you were there it brought people together and
00:45:58.140you could see on Friday night when we started you know people are kind of a little bit standoffish
00:46:03.960and people were gathering with those that they already knew but I don't think anybody I guess
00:46:11.140I can't speak for the other people but I will make an observation that I think there was more
00:46:14.940hugging done in that weekend than I've ever seen in my life and by Sunday there was this there
00:46:22.900wasn't a stranger in the crowd you know we had about 350 people and there wasn't a stranger in
00:46:27.560crowd everybody was talking everybody was moving moving freely and and i have to say too that um
00:46:34.200just before this that we came on air here with manitoba stronger together had their weekly
00:46:38.520tuesday zoom call and we did a sum up of the conference and you know shadow there was a
00:46:46.120palpable softness in the group and they were more open we've been meeting every tuesday for eight
00:46:52.920months and it's always been great but this time it was different there was this it's hard to
00:46:59.960describe it's openness this softness this this um we can talk yeah it was it was very different
00:47:07.980and by the way i before we get too too serious um you know you guys missed the best event of the
00:47:13.660whole thing jason i'll never forgive you that was there was a great speaker on friday night
00:47:17.640who opened the thing and and maggie you missed it as well and julie don't you say anything to
00:47:22.300contradict when i'm talking next time ken i'll be there biggest biggest surprise of the weekend
00:47:32.060for me i gotta you know it's funny like i find myself to be starstruck having i know it's weird
00:47:39.600right like i've met all you guys in on screen here for the last four years and then you finally get
00:47:45.280a chance to meet somebody in person it's like wow man like i haven't actually ever really met you
00:47:50.660before dr trozzi to me was the biggest surprise because because i've seen the interviews he's
00:47:57.640never been on the show and that's something he actually said to me when when we first met he
00:48:01.020goes i've been meaning to be on your show now for the past three years i said well i've been meaning
00:48:05.760to have you on my show for the past three years and from there it was like jokes and and you know
00:48:10.740like the guy is funny he's naturally a comedian we should go do a trozzi comedy tour or something
00:48:17.400across the country biggest surprise for me was dr trozzi what about you levine what what's
00:48:23.320shocked you the most or surprised you the most i'm looking for the funny bone tour uh that should be
00:48:29.120with dr trozzi um laughter is the best medicine yeah he was hilarious i would think the basic
00:48:34.780biggest surprise was similar to what you said there is meeting everybody and how tall you all
00:48:38.380are. Ken is tall, John is tall, Maggie is tall. How tall everybody is. But that was another good
00:48:47.340one. And I would also say speaking with some people from Quebec. So being from Alberta,
00:48:51.980there's a whole Alberta, Quebec thing. And no, we all fell in love pretty quickly. We had a lot
00:48:57.180of things to talk about. What about you, Julie? What surprised you the most? Well, I'd have to
00:49:02.400Well, also, Dr. Trazzi, honestly, so funny.
00:49:07.880At one point, I can't remember, there was a panel and there was a quite serious discussion.
00:49:14.120And then I don't know if it's you who said, yeah, he was someone was looking for something to put on the the unvaccinated on their on their grave.
00:49:25.880And then he was sitting behind me and then he yelled, but not loud enough so that everyone could hear.
00:49:31.120so just a few people heard and he said they lived longer and i started laughing so loud
00:49:38.280but it looked kind of awkward because like it was really serious what was going on uh in the front
00:49:43.380so yeah very very funny guy and and yeah um dr code as well yeah um so yeah amazing people
00:49:51.920amazing people i you know it was very uncomfortable for me but i couldn't help myself because i just
00:49:58.460react naturally when things get said and when the Harpers were telling the story of Garnet
00:50:03.600and the complete and total misconduct by the medical system, the hospital, even some of the
00:50:10.000staff, the way they treated the family, the way they were treating Garnet. And I found myself
00:50:16.640looking with this look of shock over at the two doctors who were to my right. And I felt like,
00:50:23.460you know, I'd apologize to Dr. Troce for this and then Dr. Code that night. I felt like I was
00:50:28.080blaming them almost because they're the doctors in the room, right? But they're obviously there
00:50:34.260for a reason. They were with us for a reason, so they weren't part of that. But they were both
00:50:39.400just as aghast as we were. And then tried to explain the possible reasons behind it, which I
00:50:47.860found to be valid. But Trotsy told me later on, he said, you know, I could not speak about those
00:50:54.580situations because I wasn't there, I wasn't involved about it. So I'm trying to come up
00:50:58.680with the possibilities, things that could have happened to make a doctor who refused
00:51:05.180to give a patient a central line, a surgery, a port for kidney dialysis, and then went
00:51:13.900and did a slipshod job of it later on that night. I'm trying to think of reasons for
00:51:18.620that. And once, Trotsy said, once I did throw out the alternate reasons that that could
00:51:24.380have been then i felt free to go after what i feel to be the real reasons that that guy did that
00:51:30.180out of spite or out of control which was completely repulsive to me maggie every time i saw you this
00:51:39.420past weekend at the conference you were talking to somebody new you certainly made a point of
00:51:45.560getting to know as many people as you could didn't you yeah um you know that that i when you asked
00:51:53.840you know what surprised me the most i was gonna say you know not much surprises me and and the
00:52:00.080people that were there it did not surprise me the quality of the people and the people that really
00:52:05.020came out from from from cities and small towns across this country to be there with us this
00:52:11.780weekend and to connect with these great ideas and to anchor intermingle with with all of us and um
00:52:18.900and learn about solutions together. And, you know, I've always said that everyone who came together
00:52:25.280over the last few years, each one of us is worth our weight in gold. And I do make a point to as
00:52:32.720much as possible, speak to everyone and share that hope, share our solutions, connect, and
00:52:39.800encourage each other. You know, I think back 20 years ago, I've recently met the Ontario
00:52:47.920Landowners Association group here. They formed 20 years ago after a farmer's protest and they
00:52:54.920brought their tractors to Ottawa and now they're winning in the Supreme Court. And now what we've
00:53:00.560done the last few years is we've brought all of Canada together. So this network that we're
00:53:06.540forming is so important and networking opportunities like that. It's not just about
00:53:11.020networking it's it's about sharing the ideas and um and we are up against a very well organized
00:53:18.900network and it's important that we um encourage these events and support these events and and
00:53:26.940the people behind them so absolutely i i just love the people and um i know that that's where
00:53:33.220our power lies and not one of us can do this it will take can you tell us about the success you
00:53:41.280had in thorold because i'm not sure if we've had that on the show yet and i want people to know
00:53:46.260that you are having successes getting rid of the un agenda the icly agenda uh in municipalities
00:53:52.900across the country yeah it was you know i uh we we started this this time last year with a
00:53:59.140delegation to Peterborough. We pointed out that it appears the international agenda is being
00:54:05.940implemented at the local level. We did a bit more research, found indeed that that was true,
00:54:12.200and Agenda 21 was actually drafted by the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and
00:54:18.300signed in Rio de Janeiro. And it is essentially a land grab. They want to move us off the land,
00:54:24.980So it's so important that we get this message out to municipalities across country and let people know that there's basic civic duties and strategies that we can do at that local level to kick them out and to put a stop to this.
00:54:41.400So we worked hard. Organizers in the Niagara region got together. They identified the program, the main program that is really bringing this in, the Partners for Climate Protection program.
00:54:56.720we did identify friendly counselors we did delegations we sent reports we created a
00:55:07.040local environmental stewardship plan proposal for them so we're not against environmentalism
00:55:12.100and we did enough legwork that by the time this came up on their agenda again
00:55:19.620the staff recommended that they withdraw from the program so bureaucrats you mean yep yep
00:55:26.040it was a seven to one win in the council and we won so this is an example and and you shared with
00:55:35.200me the story about about a golf ball and sometimes you got to like stare at that for a while and pick
00:55:39.880your club i stared at that municipality for a while and i was i knew by the time i hit that ball
00:55:46.980we were going to win that municipality and we did you know and it was it's just amazing when
00:55:52.560anyone puts their mind to something, we can do it. And this is basic civic engagement.
00:55:59.360And I believe that localism will defeat globalism and that we can take back our towns. And when
00:56:05.780we're organized and we do that across the country, we can take back our province. And when we do that
00:56:10.620and we're organized across the country, we can take back our country. And while we're doing it,
00:56:15.420we can set an example for the rest of the world because they're dealing with this too.
00:56:20.800That's a great job you did there, and I want to congratulate you on that and hopefully more successes to come.
00:56:25.920What's one thing, you guys, let's start with Ken, one thing that you learned this past weekend you didn't know before?
00:56:30.960And I want you guys watching this to understand that all of us on the panel here tonight on the show are all pretty up to date on pretty much everything, all of this global agenda.