The Shadoe Davis Show - June 26th⧸2025 Guest-Jordan Kealy BC Independent MLA Dropping Bombs!

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00:02:00.000 hello everybody welcome it is shadow at night it is thursday june the 26th 2025 on the show

00:02:20.500 tonight independent not always independent but he's now an independent mla for peace river north

00:02:26.520 in british columbia jordan keely joins the show tonight we're going to talk about well universal

00:02:33.300 ostrich farm because he's a big supporter of what's going on there and cfia wanting to come

00:02:38.580 and cull 400 ostriches he's not a big supporter of that he's a big supporter of the farm defending

00:02:44.100 their rights to test these ostriches and maybe come up with a different diagnosis than what cfia

00:02:51.060 came up with, from two PCR tests back in December. I believe it's 160 days and counting that these

00:02:58.660 ostriches have been perfectly healthy and happy. And we're going to talk a bit about that. But also,

00:03:07.040 Jordan left the Conservative Party of British Columbia back in March, I think it was. He's

00:03:12.240 going to clarify everything for us tonight, based upon corruption inside the party. And this is

00:03:19.980 alarming for conservatives not just in british columbia but all across the country because

00:03:25.500 while conservatives continue infighting and being unable to unite ideas or at least spend time 0.97

00:03:34.060 together in a big tent the marxists are running wild and they're making deals with china they're 0.90

00:03:40.300 making fairy deals in bc with china they're allowing the marxist agenda to go unchecked 0.99

00:03:46.260 Well, we get our SHIT together and we need to get it together quickly because we're in 0.98

00:03:51.860 an agenda 2030, man, and time is coming. 0.99

00:03:57.280 Also, interestingly, Jordan is an honest guy.

00:04:02.380 He's not a politician.

00:04:03.960 You know, when you hear the term politician, you think of some greasy guy, hair slicked

00:04:07.320 back, you know, talking in metaphors or talking points, never being honest or maybe kind of

00:04:16.080 sort of being honest and dropping some truth here and there but not really all the time you don't

00:04:22.300 get the feeling of believability from somebody like that and that is the idea we have a politician

00:04:27.660 so i i'm you know i'm hesitant to call jordan the politician because he just doesn't come across

00:04:33.160 like politician i just say honest man working for the people so we're going to bring jordan keely

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00:08:18.400 jordan keely independent mla for peace river north in british columbia joins the show

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00:08:48.400 hello jordan how are you thank you for uh joining the show tonight on such short notice appreciate

00:09:04.560 it i'm doing good thank you very much for having me it sounds like you got a lot of friends out

00:09:08.980 there when i'm when i'm listening to all the different places and i i believe the one place

00:09:12.620 is pronounced quinnell yeah you know i i have that thing every time i say it and and i always

00:09:19.520 remember the wrong one you know the way that some of the names are getting changed in british

00:09:28.500 columbia they're getting harder and harder to pronounce too so isn't there a new bridge in

00:09:33.840 vancouver they're renaming now yeah there's bridges there's parks there's uh certain road

00:09:40.360 names i it would be difficult if you live on a certain road name and you you have to try and

00:09:45.180 input um certain things into your uh into your computer when it comes to the the name of the

00:09:55.100 road street you can't even find where to find that on your keyboard yeah it's i could have sworn i

00:10:00.400 read something about that the other day and i just i i thought i'll never be able to pronounce

00:10:04.860 this so there's no point in even bringing it up on this show um so let me ask you first let's talk

00:10:10.340 about universal ostrich farm we were having a good conversation about it before the show began

00:10:14.380 tonight you've spent some time on the farm you've met katie and karen and the family and so have i

00:10:19.400 what were your impressions of the situation that they're in and the people who are in it

00:10:24.880 well i'll start off in the first place of of why i chose to get involved was that uh it really

00:10:30.840 seemed like no politician wanted to touch it and because of the the current status that it's in

00:10:38.140 with the cfia and the coal process that uh farmers are scared that supply management will come after

00:10:44.780 them as well yeah and the effects that they that they lobby with the federal government and the

00:10:51.120 cfia and the effects that that can have and right now a lot of really big scale farms commercial

00:10:57.780 farms industrial farms um they they can deal with the with the coal orders and having to restart

00:11:04.580 um but right now there is nobody lobbying for the smaller farmers that in order to actually lobby

00:11:12.080 uh to the legislature you you have to be a registered lobbyist well it katie's not a

00:11:17.940 lobbyist uh i'm not i'm not a i've got a farm myself before politics i'm not a registered

00:11:24.580 lobbyist so when it comes to trying to get the word out and and try and figure out ways to change

00:11:31.060 or how to stand up to the system, there's not a lot of avenues.

00:11:37.860 So when I saw Katie and her mom and what was happening,

00:11:40.380 I was really trying to think of a way to help.

00:11:42.480 And especially I heard about it when I was in the Conservative Party

00:11:46.180 and I was the agriculture critic with Ian Patton.

00:11:49.780 And he advised me not to touch it because he was worried

00:11:53.740 about what supply management would say.

00:11:56.460 And so he really didn't say much at all.

00:11:59.120 and that's that's where once i became an independent i i realized that i can be the

00:12:05.900 critic of anything i want and that's one of those things where even though it's all in my region

00:12:11.220 um this this avian flu the way that they're testing for it the way that it can spread it

00:12:18.180 can cross over so many different animal species so it's not just ostriches it's chickens turkeys

00:12:24.040 um ducks geese you've got wild birds that spread it you've you've got cows that it could go to

00:12:29.460 dairy cows that it could go to um you've got uh horses that it could go to um they could even

00:12:35.900 come after your your dog and your cat yeah well we had dr steven pellick on last week or the week

00:12:42.200 before and he was talking about the very unlikely transference to other species especially human

00:12:48.040 beings right i mean he said look i mean we've had one case of human h5 i think it was just h5

00:12:53.860 not h5n1 just h5 that young lady uh felt like she had a cold for about a week she went to the farm

00:13:01.360 herself i believe and met with katie and karen and uh so you know highly unlikely and you when

00:13:06.940 you hear that from a respected scientist who's been working in the field for 30 35 years you

00:13:14.300 kind of go okay well you know what he dude knows what he's talking about obviously and so cfia

00:13:19.020 comes in they do two pcr tests back in december pcr tests and everybody watching the show right

00:13:25.420 now and everybody who will watch this show right now knows what the pcr test is because of the

00:13:30.820 covid days so they do the pcr test on two dead birds and they come up with a positive h5 katie

00:13:37.820 tells me 41 minutes after that before they even got the n1 diagnosis because it hadn't gone to

00:13:43.420 the lab in winnipeg yet the call order came in right so based upon these these ridiculous tests

00:13:50.100 where you can pretty much find anything if you run it at a high enough cycle rate they ordered

00:13:54.320 400 ostriches to be killed and now they say i'm sorry but you can't do any of your own testing

00:14:00.340 and if you do per test you'll wind up with a 200 000 fine and possible time in jail which is

00:14:06.580 absolutely outrageous don't you think correct and they they rule that with an iron fist because

00:14:11.520 going back a long time ago when you when you had originally why they brought in those quarantine

00:14:16.800 and call orders but that was pretty much going back to when bse was happening mad cow disease

00:14:22.240 with cows and that they had to isolate quarantine and and call them as quick as possible they also

00:14:28.960 had those procedures put in place to make it very difficult for the farmers to be able to fight

00:14:33.840 against the system so that it really just came in with with a giant iron fist and and they they

00:14:41.040 pretty much got their way with no matter what happened well in in this scenario we're seeing

00:14:46.400 irregularities when you when you talk about the testing and i'm hoping that the the new evidence

00:14:52.880 or the evidence that's in place with when it comes to going back east to challenges in the

00:14:57.840 court system that katie's able to take that there but what really worried me was that the way that

00:15:03.920 they're doing this testing and the way that this this avian flu could spread the way that they're

00:15:10.720 are doing the testing it can affect farmers all over north america and right now the u.s has

00:15:16.320 recognized that fact as well and that it's not something that you can just quarantine and cull

00:15:21.720 everything that it's something that we have to work with going forward and find different ways

00:15:25.980 to progress and advance ourselves to protect farmers isn't there supposed to be other measures

00:15:34.320 to be taken before they go to the final stamp out order that's that's the last resort

00:15:38.880 from what i understand there are other measures um but i think that going straight to the coal

00:15:45.280 is their their primary objective is how they try and approach this and and i believe that

00:15:51.540 other options um could be in place especially when you look at i it's over 170 days now that

00:15:57.600 they've been quarantined and the the birds are are still healthy and um and they should be tested

00:16:04.760 and it'll prove that there's no reason to kill them but right now if they get them tested they're

00:16:09.960 looking at huge fines and it's it's not realistic and this is one of the reasons why i got involved

00:16:16.060 in the first place was to try and try and give katie a little bit of an extra voice to try and

00:16:21.660 help challenge this and that's why i got her into the legislature during question period and to meet 0.88

00:16:26.960 with the agriculture minister was to to start this and now that the federal government has their

00:16:33.280 election done and their ministries in place we need to put as much pressure on the mps to to

00:16:41.740 help support this that this this system is old it's outdated and that we we can do better and

00:16:48.900 that the future of farming is something that we have to protect that if you look throughout the

00:16:53.120 past two census periods which was four years and then four years before that 15 percent of farms

00:16:59.860 are disappearing that's the plan like these farms they're not used for for human consumption but

00:17:07.380 without farmers we have no food that is the plan from um from the united nations and why bill gates

00:17:15.800 is buying up all the farmland in the united states and there are large conglomerates buying up the

00:17:20.040 farmland in canada based out of toronto based out of new york and based out of brussels from what

00:17:25.840 i'm understanding and the research i've been doing and i know that the culls have been going

00:17:29.780 up and up and up steadily on average since 2003 which i find remarkable only now are we starting

00:17:36.900 to discover it at least it's becoming more of a public attention thing than it ever has been

00:17:42.300 thanks to the ostrich farm but we're hearing about like once a week the cfia seems to be

00:17:46.740 discovering there's a pigeon farmer in chilliwack who is going to have all of his birds called there

00:17:52.120 was a woman in Burton British Columbia who had all of her chickens culled last year uh Saskatchewan

00:17:58.100 with uh what was it anthrax has been found anthrax for goodness sakes I mean you're a farmer have you

00:18:04.700 heard of this being found in Canada not not the anthrax scenario but um I I believe that when it

00:18:12.800 comes to regulations that uh we we need to keep the UN out of our business in Canada

00:18:18.680 when it comes to our legislation that we put through and our acts and our laws

00:18:23.220 they need to be developed by by the federal government to the provincial government to match

00:18:29.020 what we need as Canadians so if these governments want to be all elbows up and that they're here to

00:18:35.180 do what's best for us well then we need to start focusing on our own economy and right now

00:18:40.660 if we've got farmers that are going out business like even I'm contemplating about having to

00:18:46.700 having to fold up just because of the droughts that we're going through so if it's not mother

00:18:50.400 nature coming after us it's it's the giant corporations they'll scoop all the money out of

00:18:55.460 it or it'll be the government trying to control every aspect of it wanting you to register your

00:18:59.640 dugout yeah as as if you're using it for uh um a large commercial use or industrial application

00:19:08.220 where it um it's getting ridiculous and the government um needs to butt out of our lives

00:19:14.980 I absolutely agree. I want to talk about what's going on in the conservative party of British

00:19:21.320 Columbia right now. John Rustad is under fire. He is firing back at several different MLAs who

00:19:28.040 have been accusing him of rigging the AGM back in March. I think it was on Vancouver Island in

00:19:34.200 Nanaimo. But first, Jordan, you don't seem like the typical politician. By the way, for those of

00:19:40.020 you're just getting here right now. Jordan is the MLA for Peace River North in British Columbia,

00:19:44.860 formerly a conservative MP, but now independent, left the party back in March, I believe it was,

00:19:49.780 right? Correct. Why did you get into politics in the first place? You had a farm going, you had

00:19:57.300 another career going on, mechanic, I believe. What made you get into politics?

00:20:03.960 You're right about that. I'm a farmer, a mechanic. I don't even like calling myself a politician.

00:20:07.940 when you see the the state of politics that it is right now i think it's disgusting and and i think

00:20:14.540 that we should have a a better standard and a higher moral code that we live by um but that

00:20:22.540 just seems the way that things are changing nowadays so i'll come straight out that when

00:20:27.240 when the pandemic happened um my dad got sick uh i was on my farm and when i went when i went down

00:20:34.900 to go and see him um he he had no immune system and he got the moderna shot um he he fell sick

00:20:44.980 within three days and was in a lot of pain and it got worse um very quickly uh i got down as

00:20:54.300 soon as i could to see him and he was on three different painkillers fentanyl morphine and

00:20:58.660 another one and um it actually got to the point where uh they did scans they said that they

00:21:04.980 couldn't talk to him and then so i went back home onto the farm because i've got animals to take

00:21:09.880 care of and uh when i finally did hear a month later from an oncologist it took a month for them

00:21:17.520 to actually read his scans um they said that he had four different types of cancer all stage four

00:21:22.720 uh by the time i got down there um lo and behold being on the farm i never bothered getting

00:21:30.540 vaccinated uh so i wasn't allowed into the hospital when i got there and uh when him and

00:21:37.260 my mom decided to choose uh made for him because they couldn't treat his pain anymore

00:21:42.080 i was eight stories down in the parking lot while the rest of my family was up there watching him

00:21:47.080 die i'm so sorry to hear that man that is so so when you when when they strip apart uh strip away

00:21:57.080 a piece of your humanity um you know for for five months i i wasn't in a very good place

00:22:03.120 and and then i the the mechanic that's in me turned around and said well like how do i fix

00:22:09.540 this what do we do to try and make this better this there there's so much disarray from covid

00:22:14.280 there's nurses getting fired there's there's doctors that are leaving um it i would try

00:22:20.840 really try to focus on on what i could do to make things better and i uh local governments came up

00:22:26.440 for election and and i thought well you know the reason that i couldn't get into the hospital was

00:22:31.720 was political that was something that the government put in place to make it so then

00:22:36.920 i couldn't see my father that was dying so i became a regional director and i did that for

00:22:42.600 two years for the prd in my region and it's it was interesting to sit on a board with um eight

00:22:50.000 municipal board directors and then four regional and to figure out how local politics works and

00:22:56.260 and there were some things where i actually really really realized that i could i figured out ways to

00:23:00.840 fix things and then there was opportunity that um i could i could become a candidate for the

00:23:07.480 conservative party i uh i turned around i told john no twice that i i hated party politics

00:23:14.320 you're talking about john rust out here for for people watching in other parts of the uh the

00:23:19.100 country john rust that is the leader of the conservative party of bc i'm sorry to interrupt

00:23:23.240 you no problem so one of the nice things about local politics is it's you're you're on a council

00:23:28.320 you're on a board you you do what you what you can best to let democracy work to figure out what's

00:23:33.460 best for your people well in a party system it's never the case it's it's so polarized um most of

00:23:40.700 the time it's there's bureaucracy involved that it never works out good uh but the we had an

00:23:47.220 opportunity with the conservative party where after the emergencies act got changed in british

00:23:51.480 columbia they made it so then people could forcibly be removed from their properties

00:23:55.500 and i said that's it i'm i'll put my name in i've i've got to try something better to

00:24:01.340 to make a difference at the provincial level the whole reason i got into politics was try and

00:24:05.900 try and make the biggest change i can and find the fixes that i can so when i got into the party it

00:24:12.700 looked like a conservative party the policies in place that john talked like a conservative but i

00:24:18.620 i i always kind of had my reservations a little bit because he was being a liberal for so long

00:24:23.300 and the biggest thing about um we've had the liberal party in bc for quite a while but never

00:24:31.080 conservative party really um i wanted the conservative party and why i was passionate

00:24:36.240 about it was that it seemed like it would actually um give the north what it needed

00:24:40.920 whereas as soon as it starts turning liberal it focuses all of its attention on the lower mainland

00:24:47.540 and the voters that it can capture down there yeah we always get left out in the north they

00:24:52.420 they rape and pillage every resource in the north and we get very little back yeah that sounds like

00:24:59.880 manitoba you know it's interesting we jordan and i were having a conversation on the phone this

00:25:04.960 afternoon and there there was a lot of similarities between manitoba and bc politically um and just

00:25:11.460 regionally as well right like there's one center of population pretty much and then everybody else

00:25:17.680 has to pay for that center of population in bc the population is much larger obviously and there are

00:25:26.140 other cities like Victoria and Kamloops and Kelowna, Vernon, all of the cities all across

00:25:32.540 BC who are probably more common sense leaning, I'm going to suppose. And I don't even want to say

00:25:37.980 right leaning or left leaning anymore, because I mean, I think that political spectrum has kind

00:25:43.420 of gone out the window. But let me ask you, for those people that don't know, and I've covered

00:25:49.380 this since the beginning, and I was very happy to see BC finally get a conservative party a couple

00:25:54.820 of years ago i didn't know much about john rustad but as you mentioned he spent years and years as

00:26:01.060 a liberal and then the liberal party had to change their name to what were they called b

00:26:05.520 bc united yeah bc united and then they folded their tent because they were sinking in the polls

00:26:12.200 and the conservatives were rising but the conservative party as it is right now anyway

00:26:16.880 is a mishmash of former liberals and possible more right-leaning people,

00:26:25.280 maybe reform-minded people.

00:26:27.400 Is that correct?

00:26:29.060 Well, the Liberal Party has always turned around and says that they're liberal,

00:26:33.900 but they've got conservatives in it.

00:26:36.140 So the candidate that we'd have in our region,

00:26:39.100 he'd say he's conservative and it would capitalize to that.

00:26:42.200 The Liberal Party has been losing traction for a long time now.

00:26:45.380 and they they did their leadership race and the kevin falcon got in and they did bc united with

00:26:51.660 the name change and they it flopped him as a leader flopped as well um they became heavily in

00:26:57.180 debt and at that point when when they got heavily in debt um and they've they've realized that they

00:27:05.600 were sinking this is about eight months into my campaign as a conservative candidate we were we

00:27:10.820 were doing pretty good and then the the party started having talks with bc united about folding

00:27:17.460 bc united or having it having to go into hiatus and then bringing over these liberals and it's

00:27:25.820 it all of a sudden became this big tent party that john called it and i never signed up for

00:27:30.800 a big tent party i signed up for a conservative party right that the policies were all conservative

00:27:35.760 like what they won on or what they did in the election that was with a conservative platform

00:27:40.520 that wasn't a liberal platform yeah wanted conservative change to happen they wanted the

00:27:46.520 polarity in the province to swing to try and counteract the socialism that we're seeing

00:27:51.760 yeah instead what we've now got is a party that's it's almost half and half for liberal

00:27:58.920 and conservatives in it this is big tent there's no communication while i was in it the mlas just

00:28:05.080 were fighting back and forth um some of some of the the meetings the caucus meetings they're

00:28:11.420 they're caucus confidentiality in place so it makes sense if i talk about it i can pretty much

00:28:16.980 get sued um so i had to be very careful with what i'd say but it's it got to the point where

00:28:22.760 i always said that i'd never be whipped that i and i told john that i wouldn't be whipped i'd do

00:28:27.760 what's best for my region first and foremost and he said yeah that's great well what's the first

00:28:34.180 thing that they do to dallas brody when they disagree with her they even gave her permission

00:28:38.040 to talk about the the first nations and when it came to them mark graves um when it became a hot

00:28:43.260 topic they asked her to take it down when she said no that's pretty much where they kicked her

00:28:48.180 out of the party well as soon as you kick somebody out of the party that's the most extreme form of 0.98

00:28:52.120 whipping that you can do and it's what like it just confirmed john's biggest hypocrite in the 0.94

00:28:57.140 world he that's exactly what happened to him yeah he's saying that he's not going to do that to 0.77

00:29:02.500 others so that's exactly what he did to dallas so when i saw this and in the meeting and i confronted

00:29:07.260 leadership and i said john this is your big 10 party what are you going to do to control this

00:29:11.680 nothing absolute crickets so then i thought well what am i supposed to do if these liberals that

00:29:19.560 have come over to this party get all the speaking time pretty much get almost all the question

00:29:25.060 period to ask their questions it seemed like the liberal infrastructure and stakeholders

00:29:32.020 were coming in and taking over at the same

00:29:34.380 time, the bureaucrats

00:29:36.360 and behind the scenes, and that they were just

00:29:38.380 pushing the Conservatives out.

00:29:40.040 At that point there, when they kicked

00:29:41.640 Dallas out, I pretty

00:29:43.740 much said, this is not the party

00:29:45.580 that I joined.

00:29:47.140 I am not becoming a Liberal,

00:29:49.700 and I'm not changing who I am.

00:29:52.480 And that's where I

00:29:53.640 decided to leave the party. Tara

00:29:55.200 was the same way that she decided to leave the party 0.52

00:29:57.660 as well.

00:29:58.560 Tara Armstrong.

00:30:00.240 strong right for for her like I think a lot of us we really saw how rigged the AGM was

00:30:06.000 or how they conducted it yeah I want to get into the AGM in just a second because I understand

00:30:11.460 that that was like a turning point for many many people when when it came out what Rustad did and

00:30:16.400 there was a lot of people who saw what he did and were holding that secret they didn't want to talk

00:30:20.940 publicly about it or they said I didn't see nothing which was a lie in many cases and the

00:30:26.780 people who are there absolutely know that it's a lie. But let me ask you, I mean, you've described

00:30:33.640 it fairly well, but how rigid, because there are other provinces, there's federal politics,

00:30:39.840 how rigid is it? And I've tried to get other politicians on the show before, and I've had

00:30:44.340 a couple, but they're former politicians. They're guys who have been in office and now they're

00:30:49.400 retired how difficult is it to be able to speak out on your own when you're a member of a party

00:30:58.360 no matter what party it is i i don't know i think i've been in the news plenty lately well you have

00:31:04.540 but you know i mean like you're independent i think we've done a pretty good job of getting

00:31:10.180 our voices heard better than we were in the conservative no i don't disagree but i mean 0.98

00:31:14.280 why don't other members just stand up more and say you know what i'm not listening to this crap 0.84

00:31:19.340 i'm going to say what i feel i mean that's what it should be many people believe that and yet for 0.96

00:31:24.940 some reason you know is it they're trying to climb the ladder of the party to maybe become a minister

00:31:30.280 should their party win power one day i'm here to to try and fix things i'm not here to be i'm not

00:31:39.540 here for status i'm not here for paycheck i'm not here to be a career career politician um i'm i'm

00:31:46.900 here to try and get shit done yeah um when it comes to the rest of the party and the politicians

00:31:53.820 that are in it i can't speak for them but the the parties themselves put a lot of parameters in place 0.95

00:31:59.800 to control the mlas and to make it so then they stay in line with the party um whether or not it's

00:32:06.820 it's having evidence on them like john talks about blackmail well that can work the same way

00:32:11.720 inside the party so that you control your own mlas you've got handlers within the system you've got

00:32:17.920 staff they'll print off scripts for everything that you're reading most of the time when you

00:32:22.080 look at question period people are reading off a piece of paper that's that's scripted directly

00:32:28.660 for them that they've never even read before in some cases let me ask you you said handlers

00:32:33.420 the party has got handlers what do you mean by that are these bureaucrats are these

00:32:37.320 party staffers they're party staffers and what do they do like they're they're supposed to handle

00:32:43.960 ministers they're supposed to tell them what to say they answer phone calls they're they're like

00:32:48.060 their protector their watchdog kind of thing so i i can't speak for the on the ndp side of it but

00:32:53.100 within the conservative party you you can see very clearly that there's their senior staff

00:32:57.920 that that is their primary role that they do is for keeping the party in line um one of the things

00:33:04.200 that you'll see them do is script a letter similar to the six pages that john put out that

00:33:09.120 or supposedly that he put out to his caucus and then it got leaked um that's another form of how

00:33:16.820 they try and control their mlas to turn around and say to their mlas the only reason you ever

00:33:21.320 got elected is because of the party not because of you you don't matter it's the party that got 0.53

00:33:27.840 you elected well I call bullshit on that I really think that we need to go back to a system of where

00:33:35.920 we actually had independence before parties where the independence actually focused on their regions

00:33:41.740 and when you go to the legislature you now have 93 politicians that are focused on the best

00:33:48.780 interests of their regions as well as the whole province not what party bureaucracy forces them

00:33:55.500 to do not what the whip tells you this is how you have to vote you have to be here for this you have

00:34:02.220 to move this way they um that's that's probably one of the main forms of controlling and handling

00:34:08.400 the mlas are the whips and john said he'd never whip his mlas well he's very clearly doing it now

00:34:14.680 so let's go back to the agm back in uh nanaimo in march what happened there exactly

00:34:20.700 so the the agm it that i that was the first one i've ever been to before and and uh halfway

00:34:28.940 through it i i was i was spellbound at what happened as to um how things were controlled that

00:34:35.420 but through the bylaws um you're you're not supposed to conduct it in a biased manner at

00:34:42.700 all towards the leader it's supposed to be um democracy of who get who gets voted into what

00:34:48.740 positions we clearly saw that john had his preferred slate that he picked that he endorsed

00:34:55.940 are we talking about a cabinet here jordan or are we talking about just people in different

00:35:01.380 regions being in different this is for the board of the party okay we came to those elected positions

00:35:07.400 so there's a lot of people that came to the agm some were just there as as members and or delegate

00:35:13.760 the delegates and voting members um there were also a lot that from riding associations that

00:35:21.940 normally a riding association would you be allowed to have 10 people come as well as yourself as the

00:35:27.240 mla there's a lot of riding associations where their their delegates never got approved and

00:35:34.020 instead um we saw a lot of voting members turn up at the at the actual agm and filled in for

00:35:42.920 for other ridings that never should have happened and it was part of that was a fight i think there

00:35:50.200 was close to 200 people that wanted to be able to go to the agm as voting delegates that couldn't

00:35:54.760 um we also saw a large number of of people that got trucked in there by bus um that that there

00:36:05.360 hasn't been um that clear evidence from the party showing exactly who they were what riding did they

00:36:11.920 come from did they pay were they a previous member in good standing in order to be able to vote now

00:36:18.740 this was this is the rumor and i can't say for sure unless you can uh of 100 south asian men being

00:36:26.680 uh bussed in and later we heard that they were bribed to come in paid a hundred dollars each

00:36:33.500 or whatever it was by rust at to vote a certain way the way that he wanted them to vote well i've

00:36:38.540 sat in the meeting the one time where i think dallas mentioned it as well about that john used

00:36:43.500 the term indo packing that came direct from john's lips and then at first when dallas and i had heard

00:36:51.700 that it was about seven months before or actually no sorry about six months before that john had

00:36:56.860 used that term we then saw it at the agm where these people came in by bus um they they weren't

00:37:04.180 familiar to a lot of the people that were there and then this this happened and then we also had

00:37:11.100 senior staff uh executive staff that that told us that this happened now what what we were calling

00:37:19.940 out for was for there to be a third party investigation into this get the party to open

00:37:27.240 their books they should be following the society's act and come clean about what actually happened

00:37:33.740 um that's that's what should happen in a proper scenario is that you have an audit like that take

00:37:40.440 place um i shouldn't have to go and try and interrogate staff or or talk to other

00:37:47.960 we seem to have lost jordan for a second he's frozen on screen hopefully this uh jordan

00:37:56.720 yeah can you hear me yeah if you can just go back seven to eight seconds and start again where you

00:38:04.040 were sure yeah so when it when it came to uh when we saw everything that was going wrong when it

00:38:11.060 came to the AGM the way that it was being chaired uh it was being rushed so fast it's the the 44

00:38:19.540 motions that were put forward to look into different ways to change the constitution or

00:38:29.380 bylaws. Those got pushed aside and it got turned into an omnibus and then they shoved it through

00:38:35.540 as well. We saw people that had questions at the microphones and the party was getting MLAs to

00:38:43.380 pretty much squash their opinions and not letting them uh really have the time to talk wow we we

00:38:49.900 saw ballots that had preferential um john's pick that was on them for his person and then for the

00:38:58.720 other three people they said independent even though they were conservative party members

00:39:03.080 uh one of them for my my um campaign manager for example she wanted to be a secretary for the party

00:39:10.220 they called her an independent on the ballot well i'm sorry when you're on that ballot like

00:39:15.980 there there's people's names on there and that's it they're all conservative party members

00:39:21.020 there's not supposed to be any sort of bias these are these are all things that happened during that

00:39:27.340 agm that had a lot of people very upset and i don't blame them um is it my job to do an

00:39:35.600 investigation into it? No. That's why I was calling for a third-party investigation to look

00:39:43.280 into it, and that it should be looked into, how the money was handled in that scenario as well.

00:39:49.160 Is that overseen by elections BC, Jordan, or is that something that you would have to do

00:39:53.960 independently, privately? I know that when it came to the changes to the Constitution and the

00:40:01.720 bylaws those have to go through um oh oh i just slipped my slipped my tongue or just missed it

00:40:12.360 for a second there oh through the societies act isn't it where those changes have to get registered

00:40:16.860 yeah um that it it involves that if you do challenge it that way involves a lengthy and

00:40:23.580 expensive court case and and i think that was one of the one of the troubles for for people to be

00:40:29.440 able to afford that and that's one of the reasons why as the three of us independents when we were

00:40:33.860 at the legislature um we brought forward some of this information and we wanted people to bring

00:40:39.560 forward information and that they could try and um somebody could start that court court challenge

00:40:44.840 but it i i think that um when it comes to the whole blackmail scenario now what is this scenario

00:40:54.460 Is this Rustad accusing you and others of blackmailing him?

00:41:00.200 Is that what that is?

00:41:01.580 So after we tried to get John to air his dirty laundry over the AGM,

00:41:08.000 that's where he sent out to his caucus members a six-page letter.

00:41:12.540 And in there, it referenced the three independents.

00:41:14.720 we'll wait just a few seconds and hopefully he's i don't know that's a that's a criminal somebody

00:41:29.400 hang on a minute hang on a minute you you vanished again so go back 10 seconds

00:41:34.200 push rewind go back 10 seconds please so sorry about that when it when it comes to

00:41:41.600 accusing somebody in that six-page letter it was he was accusing myself or or the other

00:41:47.440 two independent mlas at the time or their staff of blackmailing their

00:41:55.840 staff with with information trying to get information and for john to make that accusation

00:42:04.080 uh that's that's a a criminal offense to

00:42:11.600 And that's where I came up.

00:42:15.760 I didn't blackmail anybody.

00:42:17.640 I have no problems talking to the RCMP.

00:42:21.220 Right.

00:42:22.160 And if he doesn't have that evidence, well, then that's a crime to accuse somebody of that.

00:42:31.220 No, dude, we're getting to the good parts here.

00:42:33.360 We're getting to the good parts of this interview, this discussion, and you're freezing on us.

00:42:37.980 are you working are you working on a wi-fi or is somebody else using the wi-fi in the house

00:42:43.200 it's wi-fi it's in my office i'm all by myself all right well we'll just keep going there and

00:42:49.520 hopefully it's it resolves itself i want to ask you this john rustad who is this guy i mean when

00:42:57.360 i first saw this guy emerge as the leader of the bc conservative party a couple of years ago to me

00:43:02.420 he seemed like a reasonable guy he looks like a conservative he was talking conservative as

00:43:07.660 you point out the party was using conservative common sense talking points and winning a huge

00:43:14.160 following in the province to the point where we thought the conservatives were going to win the

00:43:17.640 election turns out they didn't and and again you know there could be all kinds of election

00:43:22.140 manipulation that we don't know about i think there's one seat that's still in dispute um

00:43:27.100 but is is he a good guy uh well he he seems like a good guy but he's a politician like he's a

00:43:36.000 career politician um okay you know maybe i i phrased that wrong i there's so many people

00:43:43.600 who and and i guess i count myself as one of them jordan who believe that people are generally good

00:43:49.840 but when you get into the world of politics there are people that will do things that normal people

00:43:57.740 average people would never even dream of doing am i right about that uh you're completely right

00:44:05.340 about that i i think that i think that john um john's a liberal through and through he came from

00:44:14.640 a failed liberal party he was looking for an out and he found a conservative party and he he said

00:44:20.800 what he needed to to get conservative supporters to build his base and then once it got big enough

00:44:27.280 that is where he turned back to the liberals and he wants his big tent and he wants to go further

00:44:32.500 and further that direction we saw that just with his caucus meeting yesterday of him getting gordon

00:44:37.500 campbell to come in and talk to people in his caucus his mla his mlas in his caucus so i if you

00:44:44.880 have the the ex-premier uh that's a liberal coming in and influencing your mlas well i'd say that

00:44:51.440 you're pretty liberal and it's um it when it comes to being a good person i believe that liberal

00:44:56.880 had a had a driving under the influence as well um so i don't know maybe they'll get christy

00:45:03.260 clark next and close down a bridge and do yoga or something and teach them that but

00:45:07.840 myself personally like i'd rather focus on some of the big issues that we have with health and

00:45:12.840 crime and drugs um but going going back to that agm and and the blackmail it's if john's going

00:45:22.600 to possibly accuse me of blackmail like he better have evidence otherwise he's falsely slandering me

00:45:29.140 he's committing a crime and that's where david eby came out and called john on and said if you

00:45:35.580 don't go to the rcmp with evidence then we'll get the rcmp to come to you and what did john do oh he

00:45:42.700 changed his story he said oh sorry i said the wrong word so he's a wormy politician that's what he is

00:45:51.980 he's he's certainly not a leader and i i guess he what did he spend 20 years as you say as a back

00:45:58.440 bench liberal mla with no real responsibility in the liberal party whatsoever he he's held

00:46:05.340 minister roles uh within the liberal party before um but he he really will just do whatever he has

00:46:12.820 to to to get through politics a lot of there's a lot of issues that we have now or that are because

00:46:17.680 of him. So you released this statement yesterday, and you say, today I'm calling on John Rustad

00:46:24.440 to step down as leader of the Conservative Party of British Columbia for the good of British

00:46:29.820 Columbians. If he stays in charge, he will run this party into the ground. In fact, he's already

00:46:36.320 going down that path. He's building on a weak foundation that he created, and it's cracking.

00:46:41.540 Not one, not two, but three MLAs have already left his caucus. His own team is falling apart

00:46:46.980 under his watch and then you go on to talk about the agm and then you suggest that you would step

00:46:52.740 forward and run for leader of the party should there become a vacuum at that position let's

00:46:58.320 talk about the party itself now this afternoon on the phone you you said to me that how many

00:47:03.280 mlas are there 45 is it uh in the conservative party right now 42 maybe uh it's yes yeah okay

00:47:13.300 so there were more liberals than there were actual conservative members of the conservative

00:47:18.200 party so at at the time when i was sitting in the caucus meeting before i before i left um i was

00:47:24.800 counting about 24 liberals that were within the party and then uh 20 conservatives so i i knew

00:47:31.400 that there was a balance that was already put in place by the selection process of the party to to

00:47:36.920 have more liberals within that caucus than than conservatives and then when the three of us left

00:47:44.800 the party that's where there was only 17 conservatives so with only 17 conservatives

00:47:51.200 in that party you're outnumbered by liberals and does this mean the party needs to split

00:47:56.620 or does this mean that a new leader is necessary to be able to get rid of these liberals and elect

00:48:05.800 actual conservatives into their positions and if so how could that be done well ultimately we we

00:48:12.440 want a really strong leader that that can help defeat the ndp and it's if if that's the scenario

00:48:19.420 then we we need one party um to to pretty much have that strong leader to be able to beat the

00:48:27.000 ndp in the next election now if we've got a weak leader and the caucus is divided then you can see

00:48:32.920 that you could have the Liberals split off

00:48:36.680 and go to the Centre BC party

00:48:38.260 that got started just a little while ago.

00:48:41.700 Now, what is that?

00:48:42.600 Is that a new Liberal party?

00:48:45.120 It's called Centre BC.

00:48:46.940 It's a previous BC United MLA

00:48:50.820 that started that party.

00:48:52.920 And then you've got...

00:48:55.000 This is what happens

00:48:56.060 when you don't have a strong leader.

00:48:57.400 You're going to have fractions break

00:48:58.920 and you're going to have

00:49:00.000 the splitting of the vote that they say.

00:49:02.920 that that can happen and it makes it very difficult for for us to be able to beat um the

00:49:09.180 other the other spectrum the ndp uh because right now that between them and the greens they've got

00:49:15.660 the the agreement together that they they're controlling the house right now interestingly

00:49:20.300 the greens only have those two seats and and yet way too much power uh because of those two seats

00:49:26.400 Usually, you know, it's interesting when we when we see NDP and liberals fighting over territory, that means there's they split their vote and there's more votes for conservatives.

00:49:37.740 But because the NDP has been the establishment party in British Columbia for so long, maybe that's a little bit reversed.

00:49:44.900 You've got center B.C. and then there's that other party called One B.C., correct?

00:49:49.180 Correct. One B.C. was started by Dallas Brody.

00:49:52.920 She's current leader with Tara Armstrong.

00:49:54.660 so then there's bc strong which is uh the party that our friend james has put together james

00:50:03.500 davison and marcella de jarley is that something that's uh going to be able to make a mark i know

00:50:10.300 that they have a lot of support down there in the abbotsford area well there's there's quite a few

00:50:15.480 other other parties that um you mean there's more than three new parties center bc one bc bc strong

00:50:23.800 there's still the conservative party is bc united still a going concern or are they like defunct now

00:50:29.880 uh bc united is is on hiatus right now with kevin falcon is still the leader of it but uh

00:50:37.000 i i think right now the the focus is that if you the the reason that i didn't join bc

00:50:44.260 uh or sorry one bc uh was because i i didn't want to rush into making these decisions that we we

00:50:51.100 have to focus on um doing what's best for british columbia with a party or trying to

00:50:57.100 trying to fight for that scenario um i myself personally uh we're we just got elected in

00:51:04.080 october yeah it's i'm i'm figuring out all of my duties and roles as an mla and being able to

00:51:11.060 help my constituents in the best ability possible are you restricted as an independent do you have

00:51:16.260 less speaking time it independents do have less time and i think that's something that the

00:51:21.740 that the legislature should look at to actually try and make a difference because right now

00:51:26.420 i was only getting one question during question period once every three weeks whereas the ndp

00:51:32.500 had two people and they were getting a question every day yeah so it's it's not balanced that

00:51:38.240 there there should be change to to how the independents work um but this is the party

00:51:44.800 system though right like and and when you go against the party you're right when you said

00:51:49.880 earlier that you know each constituency needs to be represented fairly in the legislature or the

00:51:58.080 house of commons wherever they're elected to and in a party system you just can't achieve that

00:52:03.040 i understand that with 93 disparate voices you know each person representing a different community

00:52:10.960 across the province you may not get a lot of agreement but as you say this would take a

00:52:15.460 fantastic leader to be able to build consensus not necessarily with the same people on every issue

00:52:20.720 right and the tough thing too is that the rural urban divide keeps on growing the population

00:52:27.060 centers keep on getting bigger and bigger we see that in the states as well and and trying to smart

00:52:33.020 cities 15 minutes yeah and and it makes it more a lot more difficult and i think that's where we

00:52:40.560 need electoral reforms put in place that's where we where we can try and correct that scenario so

00:52:46.480 we don't in bc we have literally one percent of the land mass that controls the whole province

00:52:53.820 yep and normally the ones the premiers that are in place don't even know anything about the rest

00:53:02.260 of bc really i gotta tell you you know i was there just recently uh like i was talking about earlier

00:53:09.020 were in the show tonight and when i first i told you this on the phone this afternoon i first drove

00:53:13.940 into bc and it had been a long time since i'd been there i'm driving along the trans canada i passed

00:53:20.640 by field i got through golden and i started seeing the like the big mountains and it's like wow man

00:53:27.820 this is so beautiful and the people who live here you know because they're there every day they take

00:53:33.180 it for granted a bit. And I just thought to myself, this province is too beautiful to be run

00:53:38.260 by Marxists. They're going to run it right into the ground. You know, they're going to take all

00:53:43.720 of this away from us if we don't find a way to stop them. And so there are people who want to

00:53:48.840 stand up like yourself, Jordan, and speak out against all of the nonsense that they're trying

00:53:53.840 to pull off David Eby. I think he's China controlled personally. And I think that that's

00:53:58.080 been revealed by uh sam from the bureau on substack repeatedly uh you know and and the ferry deal that

00:54:05.380 he just signed is evidence of that as far as i'm concerned like you're going to build four new

00:54:09.940 ferries and give the contract to china what the hell is the matter with you we do have canadians

00:54:14.300 that could do that work and that's only one example of it not to mention all the fentanyl

00:54:18.320 pouring in through the ports in the lower mainland but uh i don't want to get too divergent on what

00:54:24.160 we're talking about here but the example that you gave about the ferries that's a perfect example

00:54:30.220 of our globalized system that we have and and our country for the past 30 years has just been

00:54:36.760 allowing that globalized system the globalized system to grow stronger whereas with those ferries

00:54:42.180 we we could start shooting new shipyards it may cost more to do it but at least we're building

00:54:48.020 our own infrastructure for all of our resources the mines smelters um when it comes to forestry

00:54:54.960 you look at the the the sawmills the osb plants that all of this other infrastructure can be

00:55:01.020 enhanced but that's all this government does is that they talk about oh we we're team canada we're 1.00

00:55:07.440 elbows up we're gonna do what's best well those fairies they just did what what isn't best that 0.99

00:55:14.620 could have been billions of dollars going back into our own infrastructure by investing that 0.99

00:55:20.640 money wasn't eb like i think he was the most extreme premier on this team canada train when

00:55:27.100 he started taking american booze off the shelves but only if it was from a red state

00:55:31.960 he really he really didn't like that kentucky bourbon even though it's it really didn't make

00:55:39.140 any difference um but the powers that they've given themselves with the recent bills that they

00:55:44.800 put in place um completely sidestep uh democracy yeah especially bill seven that gave them a lot

00:55:53.120 of very very strong powers to be able to do things without even being in legislature and you know for

00:55:57.880 a guy with only a two-seat majority barely like skin of the teeth majority that's you know making

00:56:04.820 a big assumption that the all of the people of that province are absolutely 100 behind him

00:56:10.260 if he could go ahead and skirt the legislature and create laws that he sees fit uh it's like the

00:56:18.340 carny liberals in bill five right or c5 they want to be able to rub out any law that they feel is

00:56:24.800 going to get in their way when it comes to development projects that they feel are in the

00:56:29.480 best interests of canada or just create new lies and even if the greens vote against them they

00:56:36.100 still win 47 to 46 yeah when it comes to them getting their way they made it clear that they're

00:56:44.100 they're not going to push for a snap election that they they're winning these uh votes already

00:56:49.140 so the way that we have to look at things now is that what can we do best for the next election

00:56:54.660 to to try and have the try and fight the ndp now what i do as an independent i i'm not

00:57:02.720 i like to make my decisions to where they're strategic they're smart um and where i believe

00:57:09.840 that i can make the biggest change possible where i can actually find the fixes i'm not here

00:57:15.140 to just talk um i believe that happens in politics way too much and most of the time it's not even

00:57:21.380 true so to try and figure out the right way going forward is what i'm going to be looking at so as

00:57:27.460 an independent i i don't take it lightly when i turn around and say to the conservative party

00:57:31.820 john you step down if you do that i'll come back as a member and i'll run for that leadership race

00:57:37.460 i'm not joking when i say that but the odds are he's already backpedaling on the old blackmail

00:57:44.720 thing um and and he's gonna hold on to that because he's desperate so he's got the support

00:57:52.440 of these 24 liberals as you counted earlier there's 24 of them out of all of the mlas uh

00:57:59.120 conservative mlas and there's 17 who are actual conservative mlas um do you think that you would

00:58:05.580 have a chance i mean if you got him to step down first of all have you spoken to other conservative

00:58:11.120 of actual conservative MLAs about this and are they willing to step up and put pressure on this

00:58:15.960 guy? I think that I could stand a chance if they allow the membership to come back. As soon as I

00:58:22.080 left, they went through all the membership and kicked people out and pretty much told them to

00:58:29.360 pick a side. And I think that those memberships would have to be given time to come back to be

00:58:34.540 able to vote on a new leader. I've heard multiple names that might be interested in leadership

00:58:39.980 going against John was um Eleanor Sturko was one Gavin O'Doo was another Harmon Bangu might end up

00:58:46.520 running um so there's multiple people that are the the sharks are circling John as well

00:58:53.420 whether or not I come back into that I I think it's the best way going forward if we can keep

00:59:01.460 that party to survive and function properly with a strong leader that's the best way going forward

00:59:08.420 for beating the ndp too many liberals too many liberals i mean when when you sit in that

00:59:16.080 legislature jordan and you look at these ndp or these liberals step up and do their questions

00:59:20.920 or their speeches or whatever they're talking about climate change or the lgbtq plus or or

00:59:25.680 whatever whatever issue is held up to them do you get the sense that they actually believe their own

00:59:33.180 rhetoric or are they just spouting nonsense in order to be a a good ndp or liberal i i think

00:59:41.320 there's there's some of them where they're just spouting rhetoric and then i think there's some

00:59:44.660 of them that that are actually really good people they just have a different perspective

00:59:48.120 and they don't know how things work one of the unique things i mean they don't know that there's

00:59:53.160 men and then there's women and that's it i don't think they realize the the damage that happens

00:59:58.840 And like me personally, right now, if my bull isn't going out and doing its job with the cows, I'm going to see the repercussions when it comes to calving season. 0.89

01:00:06.200 Right.

01:00:07.380 When it comes to changing population to make it so that they might be confused or different and that population grows in that group, that now means that we're going to have a generational gap that most likely might not have babies, which is a very, very big problem in the future.

01:00:25.720 so i but i when i say that they don't really understand um that they've got that rural urban

01:00:33.140 divide they really don't understand how things work outside of the city they they don't know

01:00:39.140 like where the food comes from they don't know that stuff they don't know about supply chain

01:00:44.020 they don't know where where oil comes from and right okay gotcha so some of them they just they've

01:00:50.940 just got a really um warped perspective and and it's i've been trying my best to to show them that

01:00:59.960 there's a different way of how things work outside of the lower mainland yeah and that's that's my

01:01:05.620 job right now too is in opposition i still have to deal with ndp ministers and i i have to help

01:01:12.320 when there's fires up in my region i i talked to uh ravi about um bc wildfire up here and getting

01:01:19.620 equipment up to help fight it and there there's a lot of stuff that they don't understand outside

01:01:23.920 the lower mainland you kind of have to help them along with that that info because they're the

01:01:29.140 government you should get a 93 person bus and do a province-wide tour and show them around and make

01:01:36.760 them work on a an actual working farm for a couple of days put on the hip waders go wallow in the

01:01:42.860 crap right go and feed the hogs go and feed the cattle birth a calf even i mean i don't know go 0.94

01:01:50.880 go work on a fire or at least get close to an active fire and see how those guys are responding 0.98

01:01:56.480 to it go check out what's going on uh in the logging camps go and see for themselves so that

01:02:03.540 at least they come back with some kind of perspective and maybe they can start opening

01:02:08.720 their minds a little bit you're right they are closed-minded and when you live in a city it's

01:02:13.180 easy to just go to the store and buy what you need and go to the gas station and buy what you

01:02:18.880 need and it's easy to follow along right you're hearing all the left-wing corporate media not

01:02:23.460 just the national news like ctv cbc you're also hearing from the local radio stations who are

01:02:29.960 talking about climate change and the big lgbtq pride parade coming up this weekend and of course

01:02:35.400 you want to be a member of that you want to be one of the cool kids and so you throw up your hand

01:02:39.540 and say yay me and they don't know about the people all of those people outside of that area

01:02:48.740 just like all the big cities as you say right and i think there's a lot of ministers as well too that

01:02:54.400 they they get put into a minister position um and they have no clue what it's about and instead

01:03:00.580 you've got a deputy minister that's pretty much making all the decisions for that and you've got

01:03:05.500 a level of bureaucracy that that's now running your government that's not even elected and i

01:03:11.060 think that's one of the things too is that it's our mla should should have that lived experience

01:03:16.520 they they should have experience for the minister roles they're going for right i was i was going to

01:03:22.520 be the minister of agriculture yeah i'll tell you i had a uh a town councillor from gibbons alberta

01:03:30.260 on the other night and her name is amber harris and she was talking about the corruption even at

01:03:35.340 local levels right and she said that the cao of the town pretty much ran the town and he was the

01:03:44.140 one who told all of the counselors how to vote and why and i i was amazed by that i thought that

01:03:51.780 people ran for office whether it's municipal or provincial or or federal because they wanted to

01:03:58.920 make change they wanted to do good things and as a councillor a town councillor you're living with

01:04:03.880 all those people you're probably closer to your constituents than any other level of government

01:04:09.040 and yet the level of corruption in that situation was was ridiculous and i'm hearing from all kinds

01:04:15.940 of councillors all over the country the same thing so i and i don't know when it comes to the

01:04:21.520 conservative party the other spectrum could be where the liberals branch off they could go to

01:04:25.300 that center bc yeah and then you've got the conservatives that are left i don't know whether

01:04:30.080 or not that that party's rebuildable it's it's got over five million dollars in debt the the

01:04:35.880 stakeholders and staff are are intertwined with the liberals on that too so who knows maybe maybe

01:04:42.380 i might look at a party where i can try and capture the mlas that don't want to be a part of that

01:04:46.860 okay so you got you got one bc or or bc strong let's toss a coin 0.75

01:04:53.420 one one bc i i um i i think they're they're doing their thing right now um but i think there's

01:05:03.560 if i was to do something it would i'd probably be looking at doing something myself

01:05:08.440 right or uh or i might just stay as an independent i'm not sure yet

01:05:12.800 we'll see how it works out with the with the conservative party and and then we'll also see

01:05:18.580 what happens with 1bc you know it's a shame because you know as all of this division happens

01:05:25.980 amongst people of common sense values we're letting the ndp run rampant and we need to be 0.88

01:05:32.400 able to come together and you know how difficult would it be jordan to walk into a room with people

01:05:38.500 from 1bc and center bc and you know people of common sense shared common sense values to say

01:05:44.880 look at we've got to stop all of this bickering because and unify ourselves here because if we

01:05:50.200 don't the ndp is going to run us right into the ground right through the ground right to china

01:05:55.380 i i think right now um common sense isn't common very few people have it now uh when you get into

01:06:03.520 politics you've got personalities that are at play that are probably strong of the some of the

01:06:08.360 strongest personalities you've ever met yeah um and when i say that we need a really strong

01:06:14.160 leader um that's what we need when it comes to the differences in the mlas that are elected

01:06:21.800 they're all strong leaders on their own too um but but in order to be able to bring them together

01:06:27.000 and actually have a party function properly uh we we need that strong leader and that was one of the

01:06:33.260 reasons why I said that um if John stepped down I uh I would pursue that um and it's not something

01:06:40.540 that I take lightly but whether I don't think they're going to step down if they're bringing

01:06:45.260 in people like Gordon Campbell to give them inspirational liberal speeches then that's

01:06:50.940 that's probably going to be the route that they're going to go um I'm going to keep on fighting the

01:06:57.260 way that I have been there's two things that I would like to say to you and the first thing is

01:07:02.120 that um in my experience i spent over 30 years doing left-wing corporate media before i saw the

01:07:08.660 light and the last five to ten years of my radio career i met a lot of politicians i had a lot of 0.94

01:07:13.880 politicians on my show and uh i found many of them to be morons or alcoholics there weren't actually

01:07:21.960 many leaders and i was surprised by that because when you see them in the media they look you know 0.98

01:07:27.420 strong and intelligent and then you meet them in person and you ask them just a basic question

01:07:32.580 they're like i don't know what you're talking about and then you see some of them at cocktail

01:07:36.860 parties and they're wasted by seven o'clock at night so there's that the other thing is you to

01:07:43.080 me after this conversation and the conversation we had earlier today and everything that i've heard

01:07:48.480 about you from the people i met at british columbia tell me that you are a fantastic

01:07:54.120 leader and that's the impression that i get from you you are determined and you want to make a

01:07:58.620 difference and you speak with authority and intelligence and that's something that people

01:08:03.540 will follow and the hat doesn't hurt you either my friend i'm trying my best i um i came into this

01:08:11.820 humble that uh i've never been a politician before it's i've got the two years as regional

01:08:17.740 director and um i'm getting into this that one thing where i actually really surprised myself

01:08:22.760 was that being a farmer mechanic,

01:08:25.200 I never thought that I'd be a politician.

01:08:27.980 But the more I do it,

01:08:29.180 I'm actually figuring out that I'm pretty good at it.

01:08:32.080 And it should be,

01:08:33.740 when I stand with morals, integrity,

01:08:37.360 and I have the courage to fight the system,

01:08:43.240 I think that's what we need.

01:08:44.740 We need more people to do that.

01:08:47.380 And that's what I'm going to stay pushing.

01:08:50.260 You got to unite the right, man.

01:08:51.780 We've got to find a way to get those Marxists out because they're going to wreck this country province by province.

01:08:57.720 Jordan, thank you for joining the show tonight.

01:08:59.460 Really appreciate you taking the time, and I'd love to have you back any time, man.

01:09:03.100 Thank you very much for having me.

01:09:04.480 It was great.

01:09:06.180 Excellent.

01:09:06.680 All right.

01:09:07.340 We'll be right back.

01:09:08.360 I do have a couple more things I want to talk to you guys about.

01:09:11.040 And, Jordan, thank you.

01:09:11.980 We'll talk to you again soon.

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01:10:37.180 So, masculinity.

01:10:39.880 There's a lot of people who are telling me, and I've noticed this myself,

01:10:43.880 that there seems to be less masculinity in the world today

01:10:47.200 than there was even five to ten years ago.

01:10:49.600 And I would tend to agree with that.

01:10:51.400 Is it because of social pressures?

01:10:53.720 Is it because of toxic masculinity, that big push years ago,

01:10:57.360 the Me Too thing?

01:10:58.860 Does it make men less male in their characteristics?

01:11:03.720 That could be.

01:11:04.880 That could be a contributing factor, maybe a big contributing factor.

01:11:08.080 But what about physically?

01:11:10.480 Are they putting something in the water?

01:11:12.160 is there something in the air that's making men less masculine we're going to investigate that

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01:11:58.180 for the past week okay this is what i wanted to talk to you guys about let me take jordan's name

01:12:02.940 off the screen because he's no longer on with us and we'll just go with me there we go all right

01:12:07.580 So a lot of people don't seem to understand.

01:12:11.000 I'm not talking about you guys in particular, because you know, but we've all been looking

01:12:16.780 for a way to talk to our normie friends about the agenda, whether it's agenda 2030 or agenda

01:12:23.660 2050, the UN 17 sustainable development goals, the SDGs, who is Mark Carney really?

01:12:32.380 like i said the other day in a reel on social media he seems like a reasonable guy folksy

01:12:38.720 likable and people go yeah that's good enough for me plus he says he's gonna elbows up fight

01:12:43.680 the united states he's gonna make canada the strongest economy in the g7 he's gonna strengthen

01:12:48.380 our military i like this guy he's implementing a lot of the pierre poly of policies from the

01:12:54.440 election campaign it seems like will he build a new pipeline probably not he's toying with he

01:13:02.060 says, toying with the idea right now. So, like I said, we're looking for a way to expose this guy

01:13:13.780 for who he is, to make people understand. I went golfing with a very good friend of mine yesterday

01:13:19.940 morning, and I told him about the 2035 EV mandate, the liberal EV plan to completely and totally

01:13:28.440 get rid of gas-powered cars by 2035.

01:13:31.960 You will not be able to buy a gas-powered vehicle

01:13:34.320 in Canada by 2035.

01:13:36.060 He said, what are you talking about?

01:13:37.080 I said, dude, this is a law that Trudeau put in

01:13:41.000 when he was the prime minister,

01:13:42.360 and Mark Carney's not going to repeal it.

01:13:44.460 This is staying put, aside from the fact

01:13:47.100 they're not going to build any new pipelines,

01:13:48.600 let's be honest.

01:13:50.940 Mark Carney is a net-zero zealot.

01:13:54.720 Listen to the man.

01:13:55.680 about esg labels or sustainable labels and that again is one of the reasons we're having this

01:14:02.320 ruthless relentless focus on net zero because in the end look we can't stabilize the climate unless

01:14:08.120 we get to net zero and it's a simple these are hard numbers your emissions are either a or b

01:14:13.180 they're going up or down and if they're going down are they going down consistent with the science

01:14:18.000 we anchor it in the science the same science the un and others use for the one a half degree

01:14:22.580 objectives oh no no there are scientists who say that yes sure but there are scientists who have

01:14:31.820 been muzzled remember that big muzzling the scientists thing from the trudeau campaign in

01:14:37.120 2015 anyway there are scientists who do not agree with that i have put them on this show 0.83

01:14:42.300 they say no there's no climate emergency it's it's ridiculous they've got the science as well

01:14:51.680 let them have a debate about it but no no no one side gets shut down muzzled canceled the other

01:14:58.760 side is allowed for their narrative to continue why because they're the ones who are funded

01:15:02.720 by the big green energy companies which is becoming trillion dollar industry more than

01:15:10.280 one trillion it's huge it's amazing and mark carney is one of the guys behind all of that

01:15:17.140 look at this show your friends this this is on the liberal.ca website the liberal party of canada

01:15:24.620 100 zero emission car sales by 2035 you got a friend who belongs to a classic car club

01:15:31.880 you tell that guy or woman you say oh and by the way in 10 years time you're not going to be able

01:15:38.960 to drive this car it's not going to be illegal but you won't be able to buy gas for it you will

01:15:46.220 not be able to find replacement parts in this country because they probably won't allow them.

01:15:50.620 You won't be able to repair the vehicle if something goes wrong with it. It'll sit in

01:15:54.920 your garage forever. There will be no more Sunday night parades down the main drag in your city or

01:16:01.740 town. You will not be able to show off your beautiful classic car because 100% zero emission

01:16:10.220 car sales by 2035 in canada almost a quarter of our emissions come from the transportation sector

01:16:19.500 and half of these emissions come from the cars and trucks that get canadians around every day

01:16:25.580 what are they going to do when it's minus 35 on the prairies minus 25 in ontario and quebec

01:16:31.980 when it snows for three or four days in vancouver

01:16:35.100 that's why we launched the izev program in 2019 to provide purchase rebates of up to five thousand

01:16:43.080 dollars to canadians who want to get behind the wheel of an electric vehicle and help build enough

01:16:48.860 charging stations that you can drive from st john's to victoria in an electric car and this

01:16:54.500 june we set a mandatory target that all new light duty cars and passenger truck sales to be zero

01:17:00.000 emissions by 2035 accelerating canada's target by five years to help us shift to zero emissions

01:17:08.200 vehicles faster a re-elected liberal government will double down to attract investments and jobs

01:17:13.160 in manufacturing zero emissions vehicles in canada through the eight billion dollar net zero

01:17:17.680 accelerator even as major vehicle manufacturing companies are backing out of the ev because

01:17:24.540 there's no market for them people don't want them doesn't matter to mark carney

01:17:31.060 invest an additional additional 700 million dollars to add 50 000 new electric vehicle

01:17:37.960 charges and hydrogen stations to canada's network this is what they are doing this is all part of

01:17:44.880 agenda 2030 it's all part of agenda 2035 it's all part of something called agenda 2050 but don't

01:17:54.060 take my word for it here's tiana so a lot of people are talking about agenda 2021 and agenda

01:17:59.960 2030 but their end game is actually something called agenda 2050 and each agenda is meant to

01:18:06.440 break down agenda 2050 into smaller steps give out some of the tasks to ngos which are non-government

01:18:14.200 organizations in order to achieve their final task now if you're asking what's their final

01:18:20.460 task of Agenda 2050, well, it's something called Project North America 2050, where they want to

01:18:26.980 take the entire middle of North America, push everyone into 15-minute cities, and restrict

01:18:32.560 your movement and your freedoms. And a lot of people don't seem to grasp that. And the fact

01:18:38.240 that Mark Carney is part of the UN Global Envoy, and that is exactly how they're going to achieve

01:18:46.460 this mission by telling you that they need to basically decrease human consumption in order

01:18:53.720 for all of us to survive. And this actually goes back to the memorandum that Henry Kissinger wrote

01:18:59.820 in the 90s, early 90s, that I did a video on. But let me just show you what I found. So this all

01:19:05.620 goes back to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity. And it was during this time that

01:19:10.440 the Wildlands Project was to be implemented. Pause to read, I don't want to get taken off.

01:19:15.280 And that is where Agenda 21 comes into place, where they will target mega regions in order to get people to move out of these regions into cities, so mainly rural folks, that will be pushed into cities to make 15-minute cities.

01:19:29.060 Now, they are behind schedule even for the Agenda 2030, but it is basically said that at least 30%, but as much as 75% of the land needs to be recovered from the people in order to allow it to heal with biological things.

01:19:44.140 Now, what's interesting is that this area is very rich in resources.

01:19:48.060 If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up the Y2Y project.

01:19:51.540 It's Yellowstone to the Yukon.

01:19:53.320 Now, when the NDP was in power in Alberta for the four years, they tried to actually take that piece, the Yukon to Yellowstone initiative.

01:20:01.800 However, the Albertans fought back and they didn't manage to get that.

01:20:06.020 But they did manage to get the Northern BC part and the Yukon part into the agenda already.

01:20:11.520 and that's where you get the agenda 2050 where basically nothing natural can remain all of our

01:20:18.600 human rights will be taken away and transhumanism will be pushed greatly now i did a video on

01:20:25.000 transhumanism as well um it's somewhere in the copious amounts of videos that i have but i also

01:20:31.260 did a huge video on kissinger's memorandum um and it all involves depop if you know what i mean

01:20:38.520 Then you have the Deagle Report, which is also stating that the populations will drop by a lot of percentages by the year 2050.

01:20:46.300 And everything seems to be centered around we will not have enough resources in order to project the growth of humanity and in order for people not to go crazy in case there is a lack of resources.

01:20:59.340 So instead of governments going just for land, they're going specifically for resources, which is why Alberta is being pushed so hard to basically shut down everything that it needs in order to survive, to push people out of these rural areas and into cities so that they can trap everybody into the 15-minute city cycle.

01:21:21.820 Now, I can go into a lot more details, especially with a lot of the Depop coming up as a theme or a pattern in all of these agendas, and including the Georgia Guidestones.

01:21:34.020 I mean, I can do a whole connection thing on it, but I think a lot of people need to be aware of what's coming for Canada because of Mark Carney, who he is and who he stands by.

01:21:42.380 right so uh you look up y2y project and you find wildlife corridors which is what they've been

01:21:51.220 establishing like tiana was saying in british columbia alberta has actually rejected it for

01:21:55.820 now but i know in manitoba it's happening it's absolutely happening in uh the central west part

01:22:03.800 of the province because i know some farmers there who are telling me this and they have no say in

01:22:09.360 these are municipal councils who are enforcing these bylaws in these rms so it's not coming

01:22:16.620 from the province well maybe it is quietly behind closed doors it's not coming from the federal

01:22:23.680 government that we know of even though christia freeland was in alberta trying to push this

01:22:28.400 agenda i think it was grand prairie a few years ago that's where she was met by our our buddy who

01:22:33.680 gave her what for in the lobby of that hotel remember that but she was there for this region

01:22:40.240 y2y here's your website y2y.net go look it up and then we've got something called the wild lands

01:22:49.440 project the wild lands project returns this is from american stewards.us look at this map

01:22:56.520 this map shows you what they want to establish by 2025 it's in red it's in yellow and it's in green

01:23:04.880 this is in the united states obviously so it will expand to canada as well can you see any green in

01:23:11.180 there there is i can't make this any bigger i'm sorry to tell you but there is green in here these

01:23:17.660 would be the mega cities there's one here there's one here there's one up here that goes across the

01:23:28.540 border from seattle to vancouver there's one here toronto montreal winnipeg edmonton calgary

01:23:37.780 winnipeg minneapolis corridor so here's what the red stands for you are absolutely not allowed

01:23:45.220 as a human to be in the red area that is absolutely verboten for the yellow areas you

01:23:55.240 have to have a special government permit but you can be in the green areas that you can't even see

01:24:01.200 and if you want to see this map and what it means go to american stewards.us look at even

01:24:09.220 the globe and mail the left-wing corporate media is talking about how life is going to go in canada

01:24:17.340 for the next 10 years canada prepare for a decade of thrift and lower living standards

01:24:23.760 it's coming man we've got to start standing up now or it's game over man game over is that bill

01:24:37.500 paxton from aliens game over man game over and you know i'm trying to bring a little bit of levity

01:24:42.880 to the situation here guys but come on what are we going to do about this i know it's easy to sit

01:24:48.640 there and say but nothing looks different everything still kind of looks the same i've

01:24:53.120 still got my cottage yeah there's some weird bylaws going up there but nothing really bad yet

01:24:59.360 when you got the normies out there just kind of walking around like everything's okay like it was

01:25:05.080 in 1987 it's not go to any mall go to any grocery store go to any bank you know i was at the bank

01:25:15.460 today i had to get something attached to my card and i went to the atm and the first thing that

01:25:25.180 flashed across the atm the automated teller screen was that pride flag first thing

01:25:30.120 and i realized that my credit card was not attached to my debit card and so i had to

01:25:38.400 get it attached and so i went to one of the tellers i'm standing in line with all of the

01:25:42.820 other old people and i looked at the tellers there were five of them two of them working the same

01:25:49.240 window four were brown and one was white and the white person was probably about a 65 to 68 year

01:25:57.760 old woman and i went wow just wow you go to any government establishment in your province whether

01:26:07.960 it's vehicle licensing if you live in a in a monopoly province like manitoba or saskatchewan

01:26:14.700 or bc probably going to be all brown people there too you go to a casino government-run casino hey 0.92

01:26:21.960 guess what? Who's running that? All the employees. Not old stock Canadians, that's for sure. 0.68

01:26:30.800 Go to any liquor store in a province that's run by, or that runs its liquor operations.

01:26:37.560 You're going to see the same stuff.

01:26:43.560 Great replacement. It's what it is. We've got to stand up and start saying these things.

01:26:49.880 And if we don't, we're complicit. We're complicit. We're letting it happen. We're doing it to

01:27:00.440 ourselves. I want to leave you guys with a little bit of good news here. Not that. That's not good

01:27:06.540 news. That's bad news. Here's the good news. In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled

01:27:13.440 in a 6-3 decision in the Medina versus Planned Parenthood case that state Medicaid programs

01:27:19.860 can defund planned parenthood huge breakthrough for the cause of life planned parenthood should

01:27:26.860 absolutely not receive a dime of taxpayer money now if these court cases keep going this way and

01:27:33.740 because the supreme court ruled on this today in our favor i believe they will oops oops i believe

01:27:41.160 they will planned parenthood is who is running the lgbtq book plan in all of our public schools

01:27:49.340 and libraries it's been traced to planned parenthood canada even though it's not called

01:27:54.660 planned parenthood canada it's called action canada goes by a different name in canada but

01:27:59.340 it's still planned parenthood and if planned parenthood is getting defunded left right and

01:28:03.860 center they're not going to be able to keep funding these projects especially in different

01:28:09.080 countries like ours so they're going to have to find their funding from somebody else and if they

01:28:15.080 do it will be significantly lowered or they won't have any money at all and that's why you're not

01:28:20.740 seeing as much lgbtq this year because usaid defunded all of that crap not just in the states

01:28:29.700 but worldwide plain and simple brothers and sisters that's it for the show tonight the

01:28:37.900 extension begins in two minutes on shadow davis.com for the all-access nighthawks for the rest of you

01:28:44.660 i love you all and i appreciate you all catch you again monday night at eight o'clock central for

01:28:49.620 another shadow at night live stream and like i said nighthawks i'll see you in two minutes on the

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