00:08:35.320Marco Mendicino is former chief of staff to Prime Minister Mark Carney and a former Liberal
00:08:39.600cabinet minister. He's now senior counsel and strategic advisor for Castles. And Tony Clement
00:08:44.440rounds us out tonight. He served, of course, in senior roles in Conservative Prime Minister
00:08:47.700Stephen Harper's cabinet. He's now CEO of Tony Clement International. Hi, everybody.
00:08:53.260A group of diehard Joe Rogan listeners, I'm sure, maybe starting today. James, I'll start with you.
00:09:01.520I'm not sure how much of a chance you had to listen to all of it, but I think our producers did a great job there of kind of putting the highlights together.
00:09:08.120It's two hours and 23 minutes, I think.
00:09:11.600What's your read on the effectiveness or lack thereof of the appearance?
00:09:17.580One of the virtues of long form podcasting in particular is that it not only gives you an opportunity to to hear what people say,
00:09:25.020But you also get a sense of how people think because they speak in long sentences and you get into a deeper dive into commentary and analysis and you get a real perspective on things.
00:09:33.740So I think in terms of the politics in Canada, I think for Conservative Party caucus members, riding presidents, the base, they're going to see the peer probably that they've come to like over time.
00:09:42.660Right. The guy who is who is thoughtful, who is energetic about the job, who wants to be prime minister, wants to lead the conservative movement.
00:09:49.540So that's a win. When former Ambassador Hillman was on your show, Vashi, in the past, and she talked about having a Team Canada approach to dealing with Canada-U.S. relations in the long term, not just within the context of the Canada-U.S. trade negotiations and reconsideration of Kuzma, this is frankly what she was talking about and what people have been needing to see from Canada, which is an approach by people who have different audiences and different reach within the United States.
00:10:15.640And the Joe Rogan audiences are people who are sort of passively engaged in politics,
00:10:19.900but are passionate about the things that they do believe in when it comes to politics.
00:10:23.720And Pierre Polyev and going on Joe Rogan's show and talking about the virtues of the Canada-U.S. relationship,
00:10:29.500why tariffs are bad, why free trade is good,
00:10:31.920that Canada and the United States have a long relationship that is accretive to both countries.
00:10:38.080And the fact that Pierre Polyev is down there in a way that he's in communication with the prime minister's office
00:10:42.500and saying these things, this is all positive.
00:10:44.760So I think for Pierre Polyev personally and his contribution to the longer, broader relationship between Canada and the United States, it's good.
00:14:45.500He also talked about how he is staying in touch with the prime minister.
00:14:49.140I mean, those are all the types of qualities, sensible qualities that I think feed into what I think his overarching strategy is, which is to shake things up and encourage those, again, independent, persuadable Canadians to give him yet another look.
00:15:07.320Now, I'd say two things in addition to all that.
00:15:11.480One is, it's not entirely clear to me that anybody in the Joe Rogan universe was actually one of these independent-minded voters.
00:15:21.820I think he's got a very tried, tested and true and loyal following.
00:15:25.680But I'm not sure that Pierre Poilev really would have reached the broader audience that would allow him to achieve his objective.
00:15:33.120And the other thing that I would just add is that...
00:15:36.240Marco doesn't know what he's talking about here.
00:15:39.540The Joe Rogan podcast on Spotify and all the social media platforms,
00:15:44.900probably per episode, and I'm just guessing here,
00:15:47.920garners maybe 15 million views or listens,
00:15:53.700maybe more with all the clips that come out every single time he drops an episode.
00:16:00.640The CBC, by comparison, doesn't even come close.
00:18:00.480Let's do things together. And, you know, and he also got Joe Rogan to say several times how much he loves Canada.
00:18:07.460So I think for a domestic audience, I think it shows Pierre Paulyev again, as I said last week, is willing to he's willing to go to America and he is able to hold his own, to be thoughtful, to be, dare I say, prime ministerial.
00:18:28.980And I think those are all good traits that were very well evident.
00:18:33.760And to Marco's point, I agree, not everybody's going to be watching this.
00:18:37.220And the people who watch Joe Rogan are a certain group of people.
00:18:42.740But heck, we're on national television right now, guys.
00:18:46.740And the team at CTV got a number of clips out there of Pierre talking about the issues that Canadians care about.
00:18:53.600So I think it's a definite win for him.
00:18:55.500yeah i think you know in a news cycle that has been dominated for months uh christy by the
00:19:03.000government uh this is one of the first weeks that that isn't the case and it's not because we're i
00:19:09.380mean there's still some bad news in that the polling is not great for the conservatives right
00:19:12.900now but the message that that mr polyev is trying to put out there one of change i think is fair to
00:19:18.220say you know at least in tone and tenor um is getting out there it's it's not sort of being
00:19:23.880eclipsed by the government's agenda this week. It's getting out there. He sounds positive
00:19:30.720about it and he sounds positive about Canada. I mean, I think part of the problem that Polly
00:19:35.980F has had is that he sounds like he's always attacking everybody, attacking the country,
00:19:42.320attacking what's happening, which is natural. I mean, opposition leaders, that's their job,
00:19:47.420sadly. It's a terrible job. Worst job you can have in politics, actually. And so people don't
00:19:52.560get to suss in political communication on his part during this two and a half hours are you
00:19:59.180kidding me I would never have done an interview for two and I never did for two and a half hours
00:20:04.100and there's some good reasons for that I was shocked he didn't fall into any big sinkholes
00:20:10.240in the conversation that he had he seemed like a person that I had never seen before and when I was
00:20:17.200in politics they always used to ask the question you know me versus whoever I was running against
00:20:22.220people who do you want to have a beer with you know which is the one you'd
00:20:26.240want to sit down and drink a beer with and he won on that question today I
00:20:31.580would argue which is I you know it sounds like a dumb question but I think
00:20:36.200it says a lot about how we feel about a person do we want to spend time with
00:20:40.400them do we think that they would be reasonable and thoughtful or do we think
00:20:44.220they'd be whining and complaining if he could keep this method of mode of
00:20:49.380communication up i think you will really be turning a page and do i think canadians will
00:20:55.100watch this i think actually more canadians than you think will watch it i haven't spent a lot of
00:20:59.620time it's the number one podcast in canada far eclipsing any other podcast canadian or otherwise
00:21:08.540it is the number one most listened to podcast in this country joe rogan in the past i watched as
00:21:14.580much as i could today i got about halfway through and boy um it was it was an education for me in
00:21:21.980how political communication is changing how media is you know what i'll tell you something these
00:21:27.680people sitting here on this panel are all elitists and christy clark she just proved it right there
00:21:34.580boy it was an education for me how how the political landscape is changing now and and how
00:21:41.560there's different ways to get your message out there they don't know this they don't understand
00:21:48.080how big podcasts and live streaming shows are they don't pay any attention to these
00:21:53.800massive social media platforms because they're insular they're in their own little bubbles they
00:22:02.240think oh ctv is good i'm on ctv i'm solid here i'm on with vashi capello sorry i'm on ctv's or
00:22:08.940cbc's power play or whatever power in politics whatever they call it the bottom line is these
00:22:14.060people need to pull their heads out of their asses out of the sand and start paying attention
00:22:18.780maybe they'll learn a few things like christy clark is saying here it's changing and how pier
00:22:24.180polyev after a very long lag time has finally figured out how to master it and um good for him
00:22:31.920very very tough job he had today and he i think he was he really excelled here polyev has done okay
00:22:37.620okay so this one here this is from ctv morning news i don't know the name of this talking head
00:22:43.720here but she she's immediately trying to vilify paulia and she's going to be interviewing thomas
00:22:49.640mulcare the former leader of the ndb on a podcast with joe rogan the joe rogan experience podcast
00:22:56.140is among the most popular in the world the host has been a frequent critic of canada tom good
00:33:14.380or whether it's a bilateral agreement between Canada and the United States.
00:33:18.060A Republican congressman in Washington
00:33:20.380has introduced a new bill taking aim at Canada's Online Streaming Act.
00:33:25.340The bill would trigger an investigation of the streaming legislation
00:33:28.560by the Office of the United States Trade Representative,
00:33:31.800Rep. Lloyd Smucker's office said in a news release.
00:33:35.000The statement said if the trade representative finds the implementation of the streaming bill discriminates against or burdens American commerce, the USTR would be directed to take necessary retaliatory action.
00:33:49.900I don't really know what kind of retaliatory action you could take on that.
00:33:55.460There's no real big Canadian programs or networks that stream into the United States that are successful.
00:34:02.680under the online streaming act the federal broadcast regulator has ordered large foreign
00:34:08.520platforms to make a fight this is ridiculous it's been in in place since 2023 i think
00:34:15.340a five percent contribution toward canadian content that's made the bill a target in trade
00:34:22.560negotiations with the united states jameson greer the u.s trade rep has previously criticized the
00:34:29.100impact of the Online Streaming Act and Online News Act on U.S. digital service providers ahead
00:34:35.240of the review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico trade deal. Canada's unfair policies stacked the deck
00:34:40.840against U.S. companies, creators, and workers. Smucker said in the release the bill would
00:34:46.100protect American creators and companies while permitting mutually beneficial competition and
00:34:51.280innovation. The release included statements of support from groups representing large streamers
00:34:55.680and tech companies. Graham Davies, CEO of the Digital Media Association, which represents
00:35:01.160music streamers, said the implementation of the Online Streaming Act continues to be a
00:35:06.280significant source of concern to our members as it discriminates against non-Canadian and
00:35:11.120especially U.S. companies, jeopardizes investments, and imposes new and undue burdens on music
00:35:17.440streaming services. Rodrigo Balbantin of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation,
00:35:23.760which receives financial support from big tech said the streaming bill sets a troubling precedent
00:35:29.520internationally if left unchallenged american streaming platforms may face a barrage of
00:35:35.400protectionist digital policies in foreign markers of markets designed to extract revenue from them
00:35:40.880and privilege non-american content that's not exactly what this bill is or sorry law is doing
00:35:47.380earlier this week culture minister mark miller said the government wants the online streaming
00:35:54.880act and the online news act which requires meta and google to compensate media outlets for
00:35:59.820displaying their content to work this is about people paying their fair share wow that sounds
00:36:05.820like a typical marxist that report came from the canadian press as of today now what about this one
00:36:12.980This is what I mean about trust in our institutions
00:36:17.960when I was talking about that last night,
00:36:20.100the night before, and the night before,
00:45:40.160Now, Frances Whitteson, I've never met, but Dallas Brody and a couple of the other members
00:45:46.520of 1BC told me a couple of weeks ago, she's like, what, five foot one and 110 pounds.
00:45:54.380And it looks to me like she went to this event herself today, seeking truth, wearing her sign
00:46:02.040as she does. In this video, I don't see anybody else with her. There could be maybe the camera
00:46:08.160person but i don't know exactly if there was anybody else with her brave lady just seeking
00:46:16.400truth and clarification so let's have a look at this video here okay but but but i'm just talking
00:46:22.180about the canvas i'm talking about the camel's case okay okay what about the camel's case okay
00:46:29.780Okay, now first of all, this woke idiot is making fun of a seasoned, educated, experienced professor, Francis Whitteson, who is this kid's senior.
00:55:24.060American policymakers should take heed and avoid replicating their northern neighbors' failed experiment.
00:55:29.300The peer-reviewed study published in the academic journal Addiction examined patient outcomes from two Alberta-based consumption sites operating in demographically similar cities.
00:55:39.320One in Red Deer closed March of last year.
00:55:42.520The other in Lethbridge remained open and acted as a control group.
00:55:46.200this is one of the ones they're closing by the way the researchers found that after the red deer
00:55:52.200consumption site closed its former clients saw no statistically significant increase in deaths
00:55:57.280emergency department visits or opioid related emergency medical service events compared with
00:56:03.380the clients of the lethbridge site these findings are even more notable because the illicit drug
00:56:08.340supply in the city was heavily adulterated with carfentanil, a highly potent synthetic
00:56:16.940opioid, which is a hundred times more potent than plain old fentanyl.
00:56:23.800If these safe consumption sites reduced overdoses, overdose deaths, the prevalence of this dangerous
00:56:30.700drug should have made the closure even more deadly.
00:56:33.300the authors caution that the mortality results should not be interpreted as clear evidence of
00:56:40.040safety they note the study period was too short and the general frequency of deaths too low for
00:56:45.280confidential statistic results with this particular indicator but while a larger study could
00:56:50.980theoretically yield a different outcome even this limited finding seems to refute the popular
00:56:56.560activist narrative that closing consumption sites leads to mass overdose death it does
00:57:03.600not billboard chris was on x today talking about jessica yaniv simpson remember jessica yaniv
00:57:12.720rebel news has done a lot of stuff on him and uh this is a guy i think the thing with him was his
00:57:22.220first deal was he wanted to go to an esthetician to get his his package waxed and the woman who
00:57:30.820did the waxing said no no no we're not doing male genitalia we only do women here I'm sorry but I'm
00:57:35.820not doing your balls so she filed he filed a human rights complaint which he lost and then he's been
00:57:43.380threatening harm to people like Drea Humphrey and Sheila Gunn-Reed all of these rebel news
00:57:49.820reporters over the last few years they do follow him around with a microphone and that he sticks
00:57:55.240his dog on them or even threatens to shoot them sometimes and he's got a problem this jessica
00:58:01.780yaniv simpson with billboard chris so chris says uh this simpson dude has filed a complaint against
00:58:10.020me with the bc human rights tribunal and that's dangerous because we all know barry newfeld's
00:58:14.720story by now he says he says i love the way chris does this i violated his human rights by calling
00:58:22.240him a man and by denying the existence of transgender identities this violent man
00:58:28.140previously threatened to shoot and kill me and pleaded guilty to uttering threats i also had
00:58:34.540a restraining order against him for a couple of years jessica rose to fame several years ago when
00:58:42.320he contacted close to 20 female estheticians and over here it is and demanded they wax his intact
00:58:49.200male genitalia. Most of these women were of Indian descent and several worked from home with
00:58:55.020small children. Their businesses served women, not malicious men pretending to be women.
00:59:01.060When they declined his aberrant request, he played victim and said he was discriminated
00:59:05.240against on the basis of his gender identity. Mr. Simpson filed complaints in 2018 and 2019
00:59:11.840against several of these women with the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, which agreed to hear three of the
00:59:17.000cases. He lost them all. I'm not so sure he'd lose these days. Jessica Simpson was formerly known as
00:59:24.440Jonathan Yaniv, and he is a vexatious litigant with a long history of lawfare. He now has several
00:59:31.180criminal convictions and even assaulted an elderly man at his mother's care home. The municipality of
00:59:37.800Langley sent him a legal letter a few years ago declaring that their first responders would stop
00:59:42.520showing up at his home to help him out of the bathtub. He was calling them every day
00:59:47.120after he had his vaginoplasty for emergency help to get out of the tub, and he treated these brave
00:59:57.760city employees abusively. Never content to live his life in peace, he's now coming after me once
01:00:03.560again, ho-hum, Billboard Chris says. Bring it on. Of note, this is the same human rights tribunal
01:00:09.920which recently fined Barry Neufeld $750,000 for injury to dignity because Barry, like me,
01:00:16.960does not believe in gender identity ideology. Not only did the tribunal find Barry, they literally
01:00:22.960stated the following. If a person elects not to, now this is bad because this ruling sets a
01:05:19.780It continues to face a complex and evolving threat landscape with a geographically diverse set of Islamist terrorist actors seeking to propagate their ideology globally and harm Americans, even as al-Qaeda and ISIS remain weaker today than they were at their respective peaks.
01:05:38.200The spread of Islamist ideology, in some cases led by individuals and organizations
01:05:42.800associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, poses a fundamental threat to freedom
01:05:47.000and the foundational principles that underpin Western civilization.
01:05:52.440Islamist groups and individuals use this ideology for recruiting and financial support
01:05:57.380for terrorist groups and individuals around the world
01:06:00.100and to advance their political objectives of establishing an Islamist caliphate