The Shadoe Davis Show - Oct. 2nd⧸2025- Guest： Jeffrey Rath of The Alberta Prosperity Project

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00:05:29.760 welcome to Shadow at Night. This is Thursday, October the 2nd, 2025. On the show tonight from

00:05:35.480 the Alberta Prosperity Project and the law firm Rath & Company, it's Jeff Rath to talk about

00:05:42.220 Alberta independence. Danielle Smith made a big announcement today about getting a pipeline going

00:05:47.440 from Alberta to BC, even though David Eby, the Premier of British Columbia, is wholly against it,

00:05:55.080 as are many of the First Nations bans that the pipeline intends to go through.

00:06:01.540 So we're going to talk about Alberta independence and also a big deal happened earlier this week

00:06:06.900 where a contingent of Alberta sovereignists, I guess for lack of a better term,

00:06:14.140 including Dr. Dennis Modry, I believe, went down to Washington and met with the U.S. State Department

00:06:19.920 about officially recognizing Alberta as a nation unto itself.

00:06:26.080 And it seems as though the Americans are pretty excited about that concept.

00:06:30.280 So we're going to talk about all that stuff with Jeff in just a couple of minutes.

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00:08:01.420 Danielle Smith made an announcement today. We're building a pipeline. Here's her promo video.

00:08:06.540 together here today because Canada stands at a critical crossroads. Beneath our feet here in

00:08:11.800 Alberta, we stand on oil reserves valued at over $9 trillion. What stands before us right now is

00:08:17.800 a once-in-a-generation opportunity to unlock our wealth of resources and become a world-leading

00:08:22.920 energy superpower. And that's why we are announcing that the government of Alberta will be the

00:08:27.900 proponent of an oil pipeline to the northwest BC coast. With the support and technical advice

00:08:32.920 of three major pipeline companies, including South Bow, Enbridge, and Trans Mountain,

00:08:38.960 our government will make a formal application to the Federal Project Office under the Building

00:08:43.080 Canada Act. With today's announcement, Alberta is prepared to answer the call to support global

00:08:47.660 energy security efforts while creating lasting prosperity for Albertans and Canadians for

00:08:53.220 generations to come. There it is. And she got grilled on the CBC by the bald guy with glasses

00:09:00.940 earlier today we'll get to that video a little bit later on uh jeff rath said today on x if alberta

00:09:06.920 actually gets a new pipeline to the west coast which remains to be seen you're absolutely right

00:09:11.920 my friend alberta oil is still landlocked by the tanker ban and the emissions cap which the canadian

00:09:17.720 parliament voted to maintain last week they did daniel's announcement was a seinfeld episode a

00:09:23.340 show about nothing the only thing this does is underline how badly alberta needs to get out of

00:09:30.500 canada here he is jeff rath thank you for coming on and finding some time for us tonight my friend

00:09:35.100 appreciate it thanks thanks for having me i really appreciate it yeah so uh listen first let's talk

00:09:40.400 about never mind the danielle smith pipeline thing right now we'll get to that i want to talk about

00:09:44.740 the contingent that went down to washington to meet with the u.s state department that sounds

00:09:48.920 pretty exciting it was a lot of fun actually i won't i won't confirm that we met with the u.s

00:09:53.880 state department i'm not sure where that's coming from but our uh our meetings in the states are

00:09:58.000 supposed to be confidential um that being said we were meeting can i can i tell you i'm sorry

00:10:02.560 to interrupt you can i tell you where that's coming from sure glenn beck of the blaze actually

00:10:07.120 confirmed that earlier today on his show oh okay good then i can talk about that so yeah yes we

00:10:11.900 were we in fact were meeting with the state department down in washington um it's uh yeah

00:10:16.560 and uh obviously we're meeting at a very very high level i mean one of the principles that

00:10:20.460 was in our meeting i can say went directly from our meeting to the oval office right so you know

00:10:26.820 we're not meeting with the janitor we're not meeting in some you know you know what i mean 0.70

00:10:30.620 as some people would suggest um danielle's not really happy with us right now because of course

00:10:35.800 we've got better contacts with the u.s government than she does right now um uh you know which says

00:10:40.900 something the other thing is which i find really you know interesting is i think there's far more

00:10:46.180 support for albertian independence from the u.s government and the trump administration

00:10:51.400 than we have from a premier whose party is 75 in favor of independence so you know and it's like

00:10:59.060 this pipeline announcement today i think danielle you know has realized that you know she's literally 1.00

00:11:03.980 been burning political capital with her base like a drunk lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills 1.00

00:11:10.400 right and uh you know every time you know every time she turns around and she does her little 1.00

00:11:16.460 i'm on team canada and she dresses up in her little red blazer with her white shirt so she

00:11:21.520 dresses up to look like a canadian flag and she says i'm on team canada and i'm for a strong

00:11:26.300 alberta within the united canada blah blah blah um every time she does that carney then turns

00:11:32.300 around and does something to just smack her in the tea right so last week perfect example you know

00:11:38.620 another you know danielle smith you know i'm you know team canada for you know i'm in alberta for

00:11:43.540 united canada and then what happens you know the conservatives put for form forward a resolution

00:11:49.400 in parliament to end the emissions cap the cot cap in alberta and carney carney was there and

00:11:56.220 all of his liberals voted unanimously against ending the emissions cap that's one of the top

00:12:01.740 things on danielle's list of nine bad laws that she you know that she wants to get rid of and she

00:12:06.940 thinks she can get rid of by playing nice and sucking up and being on team canada right and of 0.99

00:12:12.220 course she just got smacked in the teeth again last week so i think her and her little brain

00:12:16.300 trust including uh rob anderson you know felt they needed to do something because all of us

00:12:21.640 are looking at her like she's smoking crack every time now she said she's on team canada and then

00:12:27.180 you know that there's a way forward for alberta within canada and you know the liberals turn

00:12:31.700 around and just lay the boots to her again right um so they had to do something so what she does

00:12:36.960 today which we thought was laughable was that um she has this big announcement right and the big 1.00

00:12:44.160 announcement is that she's going to go on bended knee and spend 14 million alberta tax dollars

00:12:50.680 to actually make an application herself as a project proponent on behalf of the government 1.00

00:12:56.360 of alberta to carney's fascist major projects office right so basically you know all she's

00:13:03.060 saying is that you know that um you know she doesn't say that she has an agreement from carney

00:13:07.440 for a pipeline that she has the support of the federal government for a pipeline that you know

00:13:11.920 the premier of quebec the premier of british columbia all of her fellow players on team canada

00:13:16.600 um support alberta getting a pipeline no the big announcement was that you know danielle smith is

00:13:23.060 crawling on broken glass on her knees to the you know to the federal projects office begging for a

00:13:29.040 pipeline you know and we saw what happened last you know and again think about it so they put you

00:13:33.740 know they voted parliament voted last week the liberals voted unanimously to maintain the

00:13:38.920 emissions cap right so the emissions cap means we effectively can't produce much more oil than

00:13:44.440 we're producing right now so um she's she wants to build a pipeline that we can't fill with oil

00:13:50.340 because we're part of canada like you know she's got to wake up and smell the coffee canada's over

00:13:56.520 let me ask you let me ask you this jeff because this is something that's been on my mind for a

00:14:02.260 while and i'm trying to piece it together it you know being outside of ottawa gives us a little bit

00:14:08.400 of a different perspective but we're not in it as well like you are and so we don't see exactly

00:14:13.280 what's going on day to day but it seems to me with 35 i think according to the last poll and

00:14:20.000 maybe it's higher by now 40 or so let's say people supporting alberta independence but you

00:14:25.960 ucp support is somewhere in the area 55 to 60 no no no no that poll you're referring to was an

00:14:31.940 angus reed poll from may so june july august september you know we're now into october right

00:14:38.540 the numbers are significantly higher right and let's not forget all of the shitty things that

00:14:44.360 you know um that carney has done to alberta um you know since may right so you know every time 0.81

00:14:51.300 we turn around there's some new insult coming from ottawa directed out at alberta you know

00:14:56.580 including you know carney confirming the fact that he wants to come and take all of our legal

00:15:01.160 firearms away and if we don't give our legal fire turn our legal firearms over to him we're

00:15:06.300 all going to be turned into criminals yeah right yeah so you know there's 365 000 firearms owner

00:15:13.700 like you know firearms owners in alberta that have pals and our pals i would imagine that there's

00:15:18.880 probably another 150 or 160 or 70 000 albertans that have legacy guns that they've never registered

00:15:25.020 they don't have pals or are pals for or whatever so they're already technically criminals thanks

00:15:29.400 to the liberals right because they still have dads you know a 30 30 grandpa's uh 303 from world war

00:15:35.420 one the family shotgun the family 22 that none of them bother to register they're all criminals

00:15:41.320 right you know these are a lot of buddies of mine that live on ranches in southern alberta

00:15:44.860 right um so you know carney basically came out and said that he's going to continue the carney

00:15:49.820 gun grab so there's gonna be a massive rally at the end of the month um in alberta on the 25th of

00:15:55.780 um you know on the 25th of october you know just on the gun issue so then and then on top of that

00:16:02.580 since may like let's talk you know since that poll came out in may um uh alberta's unemployment rate

00:16:08.420 is now the highest in canada we're at 8.5 unemployment right um we had youth unemployment

00:16:14.880 over the summer in it's between 15 and 20 percent so no kids can get summer jobs right um then uh

00:16:22.500 uh you know carney comes up you know basically they reconfirm the uh the emissions cap last week

00:16:29.020 every time albertans turn around there's another you know um uh major insult being levied and you

00:16:36.920 know major impact being felt by albertans because of all of the over regulation and over taxation by

00:16:44.500 ottawa right yeah let me let me get back let me get back to the previous let me finish this point

00:16:48.600 that was the wind up and here's the here's the quick fastball if anybody thinks that albertans

00:16:53.280 are not going to vote for independence next summer right when alberta's unemployment rate is at 10

00:16:58.420 which is the direction carney's taking us right and our youth unemployment is over 20 they're

00:17:03.740 crazy like alberta will be out of canada so fast it's going to make people's head spin okay so

00:17:08.320 let's say we're at 50 right now and ucp support is around 55 or 60 what political line does 1.00

00:17:15.720 danielle think she has to walk here i mean why doesn't she's got a real problem because it's 1.00

00:17:20.800 closer to 75 of the ucp base is in favor of independence right and then you know like that

00:17:27.740 big gun rally i'm telling you about that we're going to have on october 25th in alberta right

00:17:31.980 everybody at that rally right is going to be asked to go buy a ucp membership right and show up at

00:17:40.160 the agm this year right to tell danielle and no uncertain terms that we are not happy with the 0.74

00:17:46.880 lack of action on the firearms file the fact that she's ignoring the wishes of 75 percent of her 0.90

00:17:52.980 base to get alberta the hell out of canada so who is she trying to pander to this 25 percent of the 0.94

00:17:59.240 ucp base that doesn't support alberta sovereignty because she's not going to get any votes from the 0.76

00:18:03.860 left from and i worry most of those people you know are going to vote vote ndp anyway you know

00:18:09.420 those are all kenny heights right the 25 of the base that uh um that don't support sovereignty

00:18:14.720 they're all the leftover um progressive conservatives from you know stelmac and

00:18:20.740 kenny and you know that ilk right of but if they're voting ndp because i worry about that

00:18:26.380 Does that not bring the NDP this much closer to claiming power?

00:18:30.520 Well, we don't have to have an election in Alberta until 2027, right?

00:18:34.280 Okay.

00:18:34.620 So, you know, our goal as, you know, as people that favor Alberta independence, right, is to have an independence referendum next year.

00:18:43.060 We win the independence vote, and then there won't be a provincial election in the normal course in Alberta.

00:18:49.800 You know, we'll be voting to have a new constitution brought in.

00:18:52.960 We're going to be voting, you know, you know, for a new system of governance.

00:18:56.620 I mean, most of the people that support the independence movement, you know, a lot of them are hardcore Republicans and want to sever the ties with the monarchy.

00:19:03.940 I'm not one of those. I'm pretty ambivalent on the whole question of the monarchy.

00:19:07.620 You know, we could easily promote our lieutenant governor to governor general, you know, call our premier president or our prime minister.

00:19:15.400 makes no real difference as long as we're still part of part of the commonwealth um you know and

00:19:20.580 uh you know have uh allegiance to the crown and we still have an alberta crown which is probably

00:19:26.200 the easiest way from a legal perspective to become independent you want that you want it you want to

00:19:31.120 have allegiance to the crown not necessarily but it's the easiest way forward i'm looking for the

00:19:35.820 path of least resistance what i want is to get alberta the hell out of canada i want to get rid

00:19:41.060 of ottawa right i don't want ottawa passing any more regulations to interfere with our lives in

00:19:46.860 alberta i don't want any more um you know carbon emission regulations i don't want any more uh

00:19:52.860 regulations and laws aimed at shedding in our oil and gas production i don't want any more laws

00:19:58.160 that you know where somebody in ottawa because they want to get votes in montreal you know is

00:20:02.700 going to take the personal property away of everybody in alberta that you know has owned

00:20:07.300 firearms legally and responsibly their entire lives because you know people in montreal are

00:20:12.900 afraid of people that own guns you know right etc etc right so we just want to be rid of all of that

00:20:18.700 so if we end up with a constitutional government that you know still adheres to uh you know in

00:20:24.780 you know in name only which is really what canada does anyway i mean let's face it the governor

00:20:29.480 general the lieutenant governor you know the concept of the crown i mean it's really a rubber

00:20:34.700 stamp um you know in the context of our elected democracy in canada um you know and if and if that

00:20:41.560 appeals to the soft middle and the you know the hardcore monarchists and we have a lot of them in

00:20:46.460 alberta i mean i used to play polo with a bunch of them right you know you're a polo guy didn't

00:20:51.220 realize oh no i'm a horseman i mean anything you can do on horse you know with uh you know on

00:20:56.380 horseback it's like i've been i've been you know i've been cowboying my entire adult life so whether

00:21:01.000 around playing polo or roping or cutting or whatever but anyway be that as it may you know

00:21:05.620 there's a lot of people in the polo set that like the idea that they can fly over to england and you

00:21:10.140 know and play polo with uh um you know with prince uh william and you know blah blah blah and we

00:21:15.760 don't want to take that away from them and a lot of them really like going to royal ascot and you

00:21:20.160 know blah blah blah so whatever i mean they can have that i don't care because ultimately you know

00:21:24.920 the issue of whether you know alberta um becomes a full-blown republic and severs ties to the

00:21:31.080 monarchy that's not something we need to decide right off the bat that can be a separate referendum

00:21:35.860 down the line once we establish a new form of constitutional government that would see us

00:21:40.860 having an elected legislature an elected senator an elected executive um you know elected um uh

00:21:47.960 watchdog positions like the attorney general auditor general you know these people that are

00:21:53.420 now part of cabinet or report to cabinet and you know have never once ever jailed a politician

00:21:59.760 right um because they're part of cabinet you know we want to have elected people that will actually

00:22:05.040 jail politicians right in alberta because we you know i think you know i i think um you know

00:22:10.560 politicians need to be told they're not above the law right well not just for the hell of it i mean

00:22:14.840 no no no but i mean no no exactly right but i mean you know let's but let's face it i mean

00:22:21.220 and we always laugh about this but you know the the conservative government in alberta has always

00:22:25.460 had this vague whiff of corruption around it right and you know we've always tolerated it

00:22:30.560 you know that's kind of like being downwind from a septic tank on a hot july day right

00:22:34.920 and uh because by and large they give they give us good governance right it's you know like they

00:22:40.900 try to keep our taxes low they um you know and uh uh you know they try to spend you know spend

00:22:48.200 money responsibly um you know and then the big one and this is how jason kenny lost his job part

00:22:53.420 of that deal was an above above all stay the you know stay the hell out of our lives like we don't

00:22:59.060 want government in our private lives right and of course when jason kenny forgot that part of the

00:23:04.060 deal right okay kenny like we've tolerated you and your corrupt government long enough and now

00:23:09.460 that you've decided you're going to tell us how many friends we can have what we have to inject

00:23:12.740 into our bodies you know tell us that our kids in grade 12 you know can't go to high school but

00:23:17.260 Like, you go to the strip bars and casinos, you know, all of that foolishness that went on during COVID. 0.99

00:23:21.680 We all just rose and revolted and said, screw you. 0.99

00:23:24.380 Like, you've broken the deal. 1.00

00:23:25.540 We're going to throw you out on your ass. 1.00

00:23:27.220 You don't have a job anymore. 1.00

00:23:29.100 Well, he did a good job.

00:23:30.560 I don't think we're there yet with Danielle.

00:23:33.080 But, you know, she's got to understand that she's losing her base, right?

00:23:38.380 Yeah.

00:23:38.520 Um, you know, like 75% of us want the hell out of Canada and she's continuing to pay lip service, you know, to, um, you know, uh, you know, to the Canadian, you know, to the concept of Canada, which is completely failed and not working.

00:23:54.100 Do you know who might be in her ear telling her all of this?

00:23:58.320 Oh yeah, well, Rob Anderson's one, right?

00:24:00.900 And there's, you know, that's her chief of staff, right?

00:24:03.100 you've got a whole bunch of you know and i mean you know um you don't want to speculate on you

00:24:07.940 know you don't want to speculate on what kind of deals rob's making in the background right

00:24:11.780 um uh but there's a lot of billionaires that have her on speed dial right and a lot of the

00:24:18.100 billionaires let's you know let's remember that all of these billionaires became billionaires

00:24:24.720 operating in a high tax high regulatory environment so they know the rules of the game a lot of them

00:24:31.260 you know are heavily uh you know are you know have a lot of their wealth tied up in the toronto

00:24:35.500 stock exchange um you know they don't want to see the system change they don't want an open border

00:24:41.680 with the united states they don't want to see competition they don't want to see a whole bunch

00:24:45.960 of new investment coming into alberta they don't want a system of governance where all of the

00:24:50.840 politicians that they currently own lock stock and barrel are no longer in power right and where you

00:24:55.980 have checks and balances on the politicians um you know they know that the day that alberta

00:25:00.760 declares independence you know the toronto stock exchange and the the value of all of their

00:25:05.400 companies on the toronto stock exchange is going to take a lick and you know they know that the

00:25:09.440 canadian dollar you know the day that alberta declares itself independent from canada the

00:25:13.800 canadian dollar will trade on par with the polish lottie you know all of you know like all of those

00:25:19.520 things you know the billionaires are worried about right and you know justifiably i mean we

00:25:24.740 got hauled into a meeting you know um that was organized by you know you know i'll just say this

00:25:29.080 the billionaires preston manning was there and you know we're all called in like all of the you

00:25:34.520 know all of the pro-independence people were called into this meeting

00:25:37.560 hang on hang on hang on hang on jeff jeff jeff i've totally totally lost you you sound like

00:25:48.900 you're an untuned piano right now so if you could pop out and then pop back in that would be awesome

00:25:56.460 sure is that better or you still lost me well we've got your audio but you're you're kind of

00:26:02.000 blurry on screen and it's just a still shot of you but that's i mean okay i mean you're you're

00:26:06.480 doing great i can well i can try i can try to re-hook up i can try to re-hook to the internet

00:26:10.400 or find a um no no no no no let's keep going here you this is good because you're talking about

00:26:15.280 i'm talking about the you know the billion the billionaires right so they literally called us

00:26:20.540 all to a meeting and said look we have a strategy and they told us they're completely transparent

00:26:24.400 about what the strategy was so we want you guys they're talking about app you know to keep doing

00:26:29.600 what you're doing right because we want you to be a credible threat right you know we want you you

00:26:35.980 know we want you to come close to winning the referendum if not winning the referendum because

00:26:41.600 then that will basically allow us as the adults in the room to swoop in and negotiate this

00:26:47.640 reconfederation with canada right and of course literally they're i mean they're telling us

00:26:51.980 exactly what they want what they want to do and Preston Manning's there nodding sagely and you

00:26:56.660 know Jay Hill is there and all these former reform party guys and they're literally sending out

00:27:01.240 fundraising letters saying that you know like that you know the people need to give them money 0.56

00:27:06.080 because they need to reign us all in because we're just a bunch of dangerous lunatics and 0.78

00:27:11.080 malcontents who are not responsible individuals and we're going to destroy the country and 0.60

00:27:16.040 everything that it stands for i'm not kidding it was wild right so we're in this meeting dennis 0.91

00:27:21.640 modery and i went and actually keith wilson was there as well if you ever have keith on again

00:27:25.740 he'll talk to you about it it was we're all just shaking our head at this meeting and this is the

00:27:29.340 most you know effed up meeting i've ever been called to attend so and oh michael binion was

00:27:34.360 there another one of daniel's pet milk billionaires michael binion was there and you know binion was

00:27:39.240 sort of leading the charge telling us all that we needed to behave ourselves and you know and

00:27:44.620 whoa so these guys these guys the the old crew right they're they're the way they're saying okay

00:27:52.120 so you keep going and doing what you're doing because you're putting a scare into them and

00:27:57.360 then we'll be able to negotiate something more fair for alberta right what was alberta in canada

00:28:03.800 using the leverage that we're creating by trying to take alberta out of canada right so what what

00:28:08.360 was your response to these guys did you laugh what do you think my response was i looked right

00:28:12.500 in the eye and i said this is an express train and it's on a track and it's only got one direction

00:28:17.700 and we don't care what you people want we don't care what your plans are you know with your so

00:28:23.340 called reconfederation and i i literally looked at you know preston and jay hill and all these

00:28:27.900 old reform party guys i said you've been banging on the door of canada for 40 years with all this

00:28:33.560 the west wants in crap and you haven't gotten anywhere in 40 years right what makes you think

00:28:39.500 you're going to get anywhere now right you know like in effect you're all yesterday's federalists 0.98

00:28:44.960 we don't want to have anything to do with federalism we don't think it can be reformed

00:28:49.660 you're not going to get people to the table and all of a sudden have the maritime say oh yeah

00:28:54.440 we're going to give up our 30 senate seats and we'll take senate seats you know we'll knock back

00:28:58.920 our senate seats uh and give alberta and british columbia you know another 10 senate seats and

00:29:05.120 we're not going to give them permanent seats on the supreme court and you know nobody's going to

00:29:09.080 change the constitutional structure of canada because it works really well for them so all of 0.95

00:29:14.160 this reconfederation crap for us is just a fool's errand right you know what you know what you did 0.77

00:29:19.940 in that meeting what you did was you stood up and you caught this is alberta's version of the cabal 0.98

00:29:25.780 this is alberta's version of the blob the blob we've been talking about that's running rough

00:29:31.400 shot all over the world right now with agenda 2030 you stood up and you told those guys to go pound

00:29:38.600 sand and i can't even begin to tell you how proud i am of you and all the other guys who were in

00:29:44.900 that meeting who said the same thing that's amazing oh it was it was shocking like it was

00:29:49.520 absolutely it was absolutely shocking and of course you know i use i actually changed the

00:29:54.100 name of my sub stack because i thought it should be a little bit more you know serious than it was

00:29:57.940 i mean my sub stack used to be you know sort of in a tongue-in-cheek fashion was titled conspiracy

00:30:03.920 facts with jeffrey rass right so when you talk about a cabal of billionaires that runs alberta

00:30:10.920 that's not a conspiracy theory that's a conspiracy fact right wow it's true right and i've met them

00:30:19.440 and they've called me to meetings i used to play polo with some of them right like you know like

00:30:23.540 it's just the way it is in alberta right so how do you get how do you get those guys you better

00:30:29.120 tighten your chin straps because the you know average independent albertan is sick and tired 0.98

00:30:34.520 of all of your crap and we want to get the hell out of canada like we don't have private jets 0.98

00:30:39.340 right we can't fly wherever we want we don't have a g5 to take us to the isle of man where we can 0.99

00:30:45.300 visit all of our money that we love so much that we've got offshore and not then don't pay tax on

00:30:50.920 right okay so are these guys so there is a truck or a van or an rv or something that's going around

00:30:57.880 rural alberta trying to get signatures on a petition that's pro canada keep alberta in canada

00:31:03.580 i forget what it's called oh it's little tommy nothing burger and the uh forever canada people

00:31:08.120 we call them we call them the forever communism people forever communists yeah yeah so they have

00:31:15.060 this they have this goofy question that says do you agree that alberta shall remain in canada

00:31:22.400 right and of course from a legal perspective it's completely like remain in canada like yeah

00:31:27.660 like even if we vote for independence we're still going to be bordered by saskatch you know

00:31:32.000 saskatchewan british columbia in the northwest territory so i guess we'll remain in canada like

00:31:36.360 how do you vote on something like that right but the question was specifically designed by this

00:31:41.840 tomick lukasik character who's a former deputy premier of alberta under allison redford right

00:31:48.020 who had a who had a penchant for you know for promoting good-looking mlas or you know people 0.89

00:31:54.120 that she thought were good looking right in her you know in her middle age to positions of

00:31:58.360 responsibility so i guess she had an eye for a little tommy lukasic it couldn't have been

00:32:02.600 because he was smart but anyway we'll leave it at that

00:32:04.800 former deputy premier of alberta is heading up this whole thing and of course they're running

00:32:12.900 around from the province now with their right we call it their ice cream van and a lot of us are

00:32:17.100 going don't let your kids anywhere near them right they have a little ding ding ding they 0.99

00:32:23.660 yeah yeah yeah yeah right and trying to get signatures on the stupid petition and i what 0.98

00:32:28.500 i'm hearing anyway is that they're having a really hard time getting the signatures they need 0.99

00:32:32.700 and today he made some big announcement that the they took the electoral election election

00:32:37.460 elections alberto court and they got a relaxation of some order that they need to or rule actually

00:32:43.560 that they need to have their all of their signatures uh commissioned by a commissioner

00:32:48.260 of oaths because they were saying that was too expensive blah blah so they got a court order

00:32:53.080 say they don't have to do that anymore i'm not sure if it's true or not well lukasic says a lot

00:32:56.940 of stuff that isn't true so i haven't verified that yet but we're laughing and saying oh okay

00:33:01.160 so no more commissioners for oaths involved now that the cheating begin right you see this is what

00:33:07.920 i'm worried about like the cabal of billionaires again he needs 280 some odd thousand signatures 0.98

00:33:14.660 uh to have his stupid policy question on the ballot right and um what we're hearing is that 0.95

00:33:22.160 he's like so far away from that that it isn't funny and he's only got another couple weeks left 0.99

00:33:26.540 to get this you know get his signatures so you know we're not thinking that this is a real is

00:33:31.380 a real threat anymore a real thing and you know and even then um you know like the whole question

00:33:38.220 is a big so what it's like do you want Alberta to remain in Canada it's like well you know can we

00:33:42.200 have a vote where we vote on whether Alberta should still be called Alberta like you know

00:33:47.120 it's just the whole thing's just dumb and I and actually you know you may have heard that our

00:33:51.240 question has been referred to the court to determine whether it offends the constitution 0.88

00:33:56.440 and when i brought up the issue of the fact that lukasic's question hadn't been referred to the

00:34:01.300 court the judge looked me right in the eye and he said well mr raff he said we all know that that

00:34:05.920 question is legally irrelevant it's a legal nothing burger right that's what how the judge

00:34:11.820 referred to it so that's why we all of us now refer to thomas lukasic as uh um uh as little

00:34:18.040 tommy nothing burger little tommy nothing burger and actually eva chipiak works in my office and

00:34:22.640 you may know eva or know yeah whatever and she so she's polish she actually told me that the

00:34:27.120 approach the proper pronunciation of lukasic's last name isn't lukasic it's actually wukashuk

00:34:32.780 because the poles wukashuk yeah so little tommy wukashuk little tommy wukashuk nothing burger

00:34:39.560 hey um so the the oil cabal the billionaire cabal the ones that you told to pound sand

00:34:47.200 those guys are going to line up against you the NDP and all their unions are going to line up

00:34:52.140 against you the federal government's going to line up against you you're ready for that yeah

00:34:57.060 they better get more people that's what I say but I mean the funny thing is the union bosses

00:35:02.780 don't understand the fact that the rank and file are with us right like I you know I don't know if

00:35:08.140 I told you that story I got pulled over you know three or four months ago I was coming back from

00:35:11.740 a meeting downtown Calgary where I was meeting with a bunch of Calgary business people and this 0.99

00:35:16.240 young police officer pulled me over this is scary this is world economic forum shit they had a there's 0.92

00:35:21.580 one traffic light on highway 22 that's the last traffic light before you get out into the foothills 0.99

00:35:26.300 and freedom right they were using that traffic light with a license plate reader to determine

00:35:32.560 which of us dumb rednecks out the foothills have forgotten to register their farm trucks

00:35:36.540 so i'm driving back out to the ranch that morning they used a license plate reader from the traffic 0.92

00:35:41.680 light to determine that my um the registration had expired on one of my farm trucks right as I'm

00:35:47.320 driving back out to the ranch so well this is the brave new world we're going to live in right

00:35:51.240 so anyway um this young police officer comes up to the window and I said oh what can I do for you

00:35:56.560 and he says oh well we got you on the license plate reader you're you know like let you know

00:35:59.900 your registrations expired and I said oh okay no big deal sorry farm truck I forgot here's my

00:36:04.860 insurance it's up to date so we insure them all at the same time here's my driver's license here's

00:36:08.760 this here's that whatever and he says well you're in an awfully good mood for somebody who's getting

00:36:12.520 a speeding ticket and i said oh yeah i said i'm just coming back from a meeting in downtown calgary

00:36:16.740 where i was talking to a bunch of um you know very prominent calgary business people about alberta

00:36:21.620 independence and i said it was a great meeting and he says oh yeah he says we're really excited

00:36:26.860 about that too you know meaning all of the police were really excited about that too and then i said

00:36:31.740 well i bet you are because i said with no federal income tax no more federal income tax you're

00:36:36.320 gonna get like a 33 raise i said that's gonna be awesome he said i know right did he give you the

00:36:43.060 did he give you the ticket anyway oh yeah i still got the ticket he was a young guy he was like 22

00:36:47.300 years old fresh-faced kid really nice i didn't want to try to talk about it his sergeant was there

00:36:51.980 and you know whatever i didn't want you know whatever it was you know they got me fair and

00:36:55.120 square but uh no demerits right so but anyway so but that's the whole thing right so a lot of the

00:37:01.420 rank and file guys like frontline workers police um firemen uh nurses teachers i mean they all get

00:37:08.660 the fact that once we get rid of and again read the value of freedom if you haven't read it you

00:37:14.380 can download it on albertaprosperityproject.com um that shows that in the first year of independence

00:37:20.960 alberta is going to have a 30 to 50 billion dollar um uh fiscal capacity surplus which in year one

00:37:28.700 could lead to a 33 percent overall tax reduction for every albertan across the board wow oh yeah

00:37:35.020 it's crazy right and the economics are there i mean we've the pq we met with the pq a couple

00:37:39.860 weeks ago we were meeting with the paul saint-pierre and he was saying that the economists

00:37:44.960 for the um the pq had analyzed our value of freedom document and they said you guys were

00:37:51.520 being really conservative he said you're going to be way better off than that and i said we know

00:37:56.620 but we didn't you know it's like better to you know you know under promise over deliver and we

00:38:01.240 didn't want to overstate the case and we figured a 30 to 50 billion dollar a year fiscal capacity

00:38:06.440 surplus should have been enough to get everybody's attention right and he said oh yeah he says your

00:38:11.080 numbers he said are so solid and he said and then he's telling us he said we had such a good laugh

00:38:16.200 over because he said the only economists that could criticize your work he says they can't

00:38:20.600 criticize any of the actual numbers because he says they all come from fraser institute government

00:38:25.400 Canada you know whatever whatever he says they're all publicly sourced documents he says the only

00:38:29.780 thing that they can criticize you for is the fact that your future projections of economic growth

00:38:36.080 and whatever else rely on assumptions and he said we were all laughing internally he said

00:38:41.760 imagine economists criticizing other economists for making assumptions like I don't see what else

00:38:48.600 you can do when you're projecting into the future right right so that's so yeah anyway so that's you

00:38:53.920 that's uh you know some of the stuff that we've been involved in so let me ask you this the agm

00:38:58.600 is at the end of november correct right and you you've been busy getting app membership sold to

00:39:04.840 ucp members and these folks are already going to be coming out to the agm what message are you

00:39:11.760 trying to because i can't imagine what it's like for danielle right now she's got the blob in one

00:39:16.700 ear and she's got the i would say the majority of the province in the other ear how do you even

00:39:23.200 walk that line well that's the problem that's the problem right and um you know i don't think

00:39:28.420 she knows what to do i mean she really doesn't and like i said you know every time she you know

00:39:33.240 opens up her mouth and says i'm a strong alberta united canada like you know she's just lost another

00:39:39.020 member of her base and they're going oh okay well maybe the uc you know you know maybe you need to

00:39:44.000 go the way of jason kenny right i mean we're not advocating that right now but i mean she's you

00:39:48.700 know she's on a very very short timeline right now now you see that's what i've heard from others

00:39:54.160 you know she gave carney six months to prove that you know that you know that he's not you know that

00:39:59.420 he's a changed man and he's not going to continue to screw alberta the way he screwed alberta when

00:40:04.320 he was advising trudeau on how to screw alberta right um and you know that six month honeymoon

00:40:10.620 is at an end and she's got nothing to show for it so that's why they had the big seinfeld episode 0.51

00:40:15.440 today about uh you know her going and applying at the major projects office for a pipeline that's

00:40:21.580 going to take five or six years to build like i was actually um i went out and i played a bit

00:40:25.640 of golf this afternoon and then afterwards um i was invited to a reception with a golf pro buddy

00:40:32.000 of mine put on by trans canada pipeline okay by tcpl so i was talking to like one of the senior

00:40:38.460 vice presidents for tcpl um you know about everything that daniel's doing and we're all

00:40:45.220 laughing he says oh yeah he says like doesn't she realize that you know just the environmental work

00:40:49.500 this you know on and on and on and on it's a two or three lead two or three year lead up just to

00:40:54.440 get started on something like that you know like you're not even going to see construction for five

00:40:58.660 or six years so like i don't know what that you know and you know and is that is the vague promise

00:41:04.000 that that all might happen, you know, in the future, you know, does that create enough value

00:41:09.980 for, you know, the average citizen of Alberta to say, well, if we stick with Danielle and stick

00:41:15.200 with Canada, we might get a pipeline in five years. But if we vote for independence, we've read the

00:41:21.000 value of freedom, we get a 33% haircut on our taxes, no more federal income tax, no more capital

00:41:27.600 gains tax, no more federal corporate tax, no more GST, no more carbon tax, no more excise tax,

00:41:33.400 no more estate tax you know we're completely out from underneath the shadow of the threatened

00:41:38.100 liberal home equity tax that they're talking about bringing in now i saw today that you know

00:41:44.240 carney has now decided that it's time to put a price on carbon with regard to air travel so we

00:41:49.900 need to start taxing canadians every time they get on an airplane so you know basically he's you know

00:41:55.220 carney's plan is to take um you know the family vacation out of you know into a warm destination

00:42:00.780 out of the reach of middle-class families while he flits around the world on a private jet.

00:42:07.500 I think that people are pissed.

00:42:10.320 Paulie may have given you guys a gift today because that 25% of UCP members who are not APP members

00:42:20.440 are still maybe hanging on to some kind of hope that Canada can stay together.

00:42:25.060 and danielle's right we can have a an independent alberta within a unified canada whatever that

00:42:31.160 means but polyev it seems like has been losing support all across the board in the last couple

00:42:38.280 of weeks and especially in the last couple of days when he wouldn't give a straight answer

00:42:43.360 when asked about the universal ostrich farm in british columbia to a left-wing corporate media

00:42:48.680 reporter yesterday and today i mean i put that i put that up on my social media you would not

00:42:55.040 believe the comments and if people are losing faith in pierre polyev to maybe straighten things

00:43:00.640 out in a coming election if that's ever going to happen then they don't really have a choice left

00:43:06.480 jeff then it's time to go if you're in alberta then it's time to go no nobody's coming to save

00:43:12.120 us here it's time to save ourselves the other week it's like you know because daniel i think

00:43:16.720 Danielle thinks that Pierre Polyev is coming to save her and we just got to

00:43:20.080 hang on for, you know,

00:43:21.260 until the next election and Polyev is going to get elected and he's going to

00:43:23.960 come and save us. And I'm going like, Danielle, he's not coming to save us.

00:43:27.640 We have to save ourselves.

00:43:29.420 Canada is a sinking ship and it's dragging us down with it.

00:43:33.260 We need to get out, you know, and interestingly,

00:43:35.800 and I want to pop back to that meeting with the state department that I'm now

00:43:39.420 talking about because it's out there.

00:43:42.580 Glenn Beck has confirmed it. Right. So, you know,

00:43:45.900 we're meeting at the top of the state department you know and we're talking to them about the

00:43:49.900 benefits of an independent Alberta and I want to clarify for everybody a very small proportion of

00:43:55.480 the Alberta independence movement favors 51st statehood right but all of our discussions with

00:44:00.940 the state department in Washington you know are not about Alberta joining the United States as a

00:44:05.980 51st state and you know one of the biggest reasons for that is it's just not going to happen in any

00:44:10.800 timely fashion right first of all Alberta has to get independent from Canada then we have to have

00:44:15.100 our own constitution then our constitution has to be approved by um the congress and two-thirds of

00:44:20.740 the u.s senate and then they have to vote to allow us to join the united states and of course you

00:44:26.200 know what you know the people in the trump administration are saying yeah and you guys are

00:44:29.980 conservatives by and large in alberta so the price of getting alberta into the united states as a

00:44:36.020 state is that the democrats are going to want both puerto rico and washington dc to be granted

00:44:41.620 state statehood and that's going to happen over the dead bodies of the entire GOP caucus right

00:44:47.500 exactly so it ain't happening so statehood is not on the table we don't care we don't want it anyway

00:44:52.940 we think that we're going to be far better off as an independent Alberta we're in a common market

00:44:58.520 with the United States and of course you know it wouldn't surprise anybody I'm not going to say

00:45:02.920 that this is what we discussed but it shouldn't surprise anybody right that the type of thing

00:45:08.300 that we would be discussing with the u.s state department at the highest levels is the shortest

00:45:13.220 free trade agreement in the world that will simply read there will be zero tariffs on both sides of

00:45:18.880 the alberta u.s border on all goods and services and there will be an open border between the

00:45:24.360 united states and alberta to facilitate the free flow of goods and services across the you know

00:45:30.300 the alberta u.s border so effectively it's the old sort of european common market concept

00:45:35.500 but without all of the bureaucrats and bullshit and rules we'll have our rules they'll have their

00:45:40.520 rules you know we might need to meet once a year to decide whether somebody's making rules that 0.91

00:45:45.180 amount to a trade barrier but whatever right um you know we just want to keep it as simple as

00:45:50.220 possible and facilitate as much trade going back and forth as possible and of course everybody in

00:45:56.120 canada needs to wake up to the fact that alberta doesn't need canada you guys need us right so 90

00:46:03.300 percent of all of our trade is north north and south nine zero percent right so in effect you

00:46:09.660 know sorry bc you don't want to give us a pipeline screw you sorry ontario and quebec you don't want 0.78

00:46:14.240 to give us a pipeline screw you we don't need to trade with you right um and you know henceforth 0.77

00:46:20.700 you know we'll just build two new pipelines one to the gulf coast you know i was talking to a guy

00:46:25.540 from about tcpl about it today it's completely feasible to build a pipeline to bellingham

00:46:30.240 washington right instead of going through bc which we would be able to do if we didn't have

00:46:34.740 to have ottawa blocking us from building uh north south pipelines right so um you know build a

00:46:40.980 pipeline to bellingham to feed all the american refineries on the west coast that are now literally

00:46:45.260 picking up 50 of alberta's tanker crude from british columbia let me ask you how does it be

00:46:51.980 fine how does the pq feel about pipelines well that's the funny thing like you know they don't

00:46:58.300 like them so they say well you know and this is what paul said here at flamondon told us it's just

00:47:03.060 a tunnel underground and once the tunnel is built there are no more jobs for us and then we have to

00:47:07.640 the you know the risk of uh um you know oil leaks and blah blah blah and we don't get anything out

00:47:13.920 of it i mean they don't understand that pipelines are assets they pay taxes on a you know municipal

00:47:18.700 mill rate they put money into communities on an ongoing basis forever um you know i mean they

00:47:24.340 haven't quite figured that part of it out don't they get royalties as well not not necessarily

00:47:29.820 i mean but they get taxes you know like you know like a property tax a mill rate on an industrial

00:47:34.840 facility a pipeline's an industrial facility right um so they don't get it and quite frankly

00:47:40.180 we don't care right the big thing that we have in common with the pq right is we all think that

00:47:45.960 ottawa is completely corrupt right and that we would all be better off without them right without

00:47:51.340 you know keeping all of our money at home and even the pq said like and we were surprised when

00:47:55.440 they said this was kind of an epiphany right they we don't want alberta transfer payments because we

00:48:00.040 don't really get them in the normal sense they come from the federal government with all kinds

00:48:04.380 of strings attached and the federal government uses these so-called transfer payments to corrupt

00:48:09.540 quebec politics so they buy off politicians they buy off you know regions you know it's just you

00:48:15.640 know all of that and they say you know we think that we would be better off without them and they 0.99

00:48:19.800 put forward their own book um that's very much like the um uh value of freedom that literally

00:48:25.980 shows that quebec um uh would be just fine outside of canada without transfer payments from anybody

00:48:32.600 um and that's what they want to pursue right so but but they they they have not established

00:48:39.200 i know there's a lot of rare earth in quebec but they haven't established any oil or natural gas or

00:48:46.100 anything like that in Quebec because they haven't had to with the and that's what

00:48:50.220 was saying is that they've got all of that hydro they've got all that electricity so they're quite

00:48:55.760 happy to rely on you know running everything as much as possible you know on electric on on on

00:49:01.780 the very cheap electricity um that they have and then he literally said oh and if we need more

00:49:06.560 electricity we just damn another river I mean that's how cavalier they are about it and they

00:49:11.540 They would rather do that than to develop a massive gas field in Quebec

00:49:16.740 that Mike Binion discovered and which they expropriated from him

00:49:20.620 and took away from him, right?

00:49:22.280 But here's the big thing from Quebec.

00:49:25.200 Flamondin has won the last three by-elections in a row, right?

00:49:30.040 And is way ahead in the polls.

00:49:32.340 We have his word that an independent Quebec will recognize Alberta independence

00:49:38.980 immediately upon a successful referendum in Alberta.

00:49:41.540 and will side with Alberta at the constitutional table under the Clarity Act

00:49:47.740 when we go to get ourselves out of Canada.

00:49:50.860 So who's going to leave first is the question.

00:49:53.840 We know that the PQ is going to win the next election in Quebec.

00:49:57.000 Are they immediately going to start ginning up support?

00:49:59.640 No, I think they feel that they need to build more support.

00:50:02.720 I think they're actually telling us that their polling shows that support for independence

00:50:07.680 is strangely higher in Alberta right now than it is in Quebec.

00:50:10.620 um we had a you know really good chat with them about our grassroots organization and how we were

00:50:17.100 working to move things forward they were very impressed with everything that we're doing i mean

00:50:21.200 we have organizations in every constituency association across the province and um uh

00:50:26.720 literally 20 000 volunteers i mean and everybody's just working as hard as they can to get us the

00:50:31.600 hell out of canada and plumondon was like wow we're not even that well organized right we have

00:50:38.280 of work to do so we actually part of that meeting was you know giving him pointers and tips on how

00:50:43.160 they can improve their grassroots organization and you know we were kind of you know uh you know

00:50:47.240 sharing notes with them you know um you know in the context of what was actually a really really

00:50:51.820 pleasant four and a half hour meeting right are they where are we at with the question right now

00:50:57.200 i i know that you told me earlier that you're still in court with it is this yeah yeah but i

00:51:01.680 was i was really worried because they hired they have these two um amicus curae um uh these two

00:51:07.580 amicus curae um that one of them is supposed to be the most esteemed constitutional litigator in

00:51:13.500 in edmonton and the other is a professor of constitutional law from the university of

00:51:18.000 alberta and so they fired they filed a 50 page amicus curae brief with the court um telling the

00:51:25.540 court you know in breathless terms why our question is unconstitutional and i was originally

00:51:31.760 really worried about this document because i expected something that was i mean these are

00:51:35.400 supposed to be the best constitutionalists in alberta right notwithstanding the fact i've

00:51:38.860 probably been in the supreme court more than either one of them but leave that aside right

00:51:42.060 so and i read the document i'm going like oh my god half of this is fiction the other half of it

00:51:47.740 must be humor because it's not real like it's just so freaking funny i mean they start out with

00:51:52.940 their second paragraph keep in mind they're at they're supposed to be amicus to the court which

00:51:57.280 means they're supposed to be objective right the second paragraph of this document is this is very

00:52:03.280 serious this is an existential threat to the people of alberta and the people of canada right

00:52:09.580 so that's how the document starts right existential threat that has nothing to do with objectivity at

00:52:15.160 all i was kind of flattered i've never been an existential threat before it's like people are

00:52:21.840 going to have to start calling me climate change are they are they stonewalling you guys with this

00:52:27.940 and then when you dig into this document it then it turns out that this whole thing turns on one

00:52:33.440 little technical point and it's specifically there's a section in the citizens initiative act

00:52:40.000 it's section two sub four right that says that a proposal under the citizens initiative act

00:52:48.140 cannot contravene sections one to 35 of the constitution act 19 you know whatever 1982

00:52:55.420 right and then they you know and they put in the latin definition of the word contravene and then

00:53:01.600 the black's law definition of the word contravene and then various other you know you know like

00:53:07.300 learned judges talking about what contravene means in the context of the law and blah blah blah blah

00:53:12.600 but of course the one thing that you know that this whole breathless document and it is it's

00:53:17.620 completely breathless right and every time they make one of these florid statements about 0.92

00:53:21.960 existential threat and tearing the fabric of society and all of this crazy bullshit um they 0.91

00:53:28.500 never want to quit note it or cite a case to support what they claim the law is because they're 0.96

00:53:33.260 just making it up as they go along right yeah of course you know but again just i'll bring the

00:53:38.080 point home and then we can move on from it but i thought this thing was going to be really really

00:53:41.360 difficult to respond to right but the answer to their entire 50 page brief is dudes constitutional

00:53:49.620 rights are not absolute right we're not contravening the constitution we're amending

00:53:57.260 the constitution so i'm going to have to now come up with six definitions of the word

00:54:01.980 amendment you know to juxtapose them to their six definitions of the word contravene

00:54:08.340 And think about it, right? Every right in the Charter, including, and I know that Aboriginal rights are outside of the Charter, but every right in the Constitution Act 1982 is subject to the amending formula.

00:54:23.620 Subject to, which means that they can be amended.

00:54:26.520 so how by definition if you're seeking to amend the constitution or asking a question to amend

00:54:33.080 the constitution are you contravening the constitution if you're following a constitutional

00:54:39.160 amendment process i know we've had we've had arguments like that about the constitution and

00:54:45.120 the charter for the past five years and but you see what i mean like from just from a you know

00:54:49.020 from a practice you know from a practical legal perspective their entire argument is completely

00:54:53.960 ludicrous right no so so i was i thought you're gonna have a tough time answering it now i don't

00:54:59.500 think so much right okay so you you were really head up i think we talked about three months ago

00:55:05.140 you're really head up to get a vote before christmas this year and that's not going to

00:55:09.220 happen now obviously that's that's my nature that's all right that's cool but are we talking

00:55:13.720 in reality here reality now so summer next year maybe yeah yeah we're looking at next summer

00:55:19.880 and um you know and again like let's think let's think about that right eight and a half percent

00:55:26.500 unemployment in alberta today um you know and uh you know 15 youth unemployment there is no doubt

00:55:33.260 by next summer that we are going to be at 10 unemployment in alberta and um you know at least

00:55:39.380 20 youth unemployment and keep in mind that even though carney is saying oh yeah we're cutting back

00:55:45.000 on immigration they put they've allowed more people into canada and alberta on temporary

00:55:50.400 foreign worker visas this year and the most insidious one this so-called international 1.00

00:55:56.160 mobility program visa right which effectively means they can scrape up the third world with 0.99

00:56:02.060 snow shovels and just shovel them into canada without any real vetting labor market surveys 0.99

00:56:07.200 any demonstration that there's a need for these people in a labor market that they're not going

00:56:11.940 to take a job away from people literally we have coyotes now that go over to the third world go to

00:56:17.020 india wherever they have a big stack of tim horton's um job offers because that's the only

00:56:22.640 condition for this program is that you have a job offer so they go over there with a big stack of

00:56:27.700 form job offers tim horton's canadian tire all these places right and then walmart you name it

00:56:33.740 right and then in exchange for whatever sum of money i've heard as much as fifty thousand dollars

00:56:38.840 these people are given a job offer for a minimum wage job right a plane ticket to canada and an

00:56:44.860 international mobility program visa that gets them over to canada right and then the the owners of

00:56:51.380 these tim horton franchises or what who now have a five-year indentured surf that can't go anywhere

00:56:57.680 can't ask for a raise can't do shit and then on top of it i haven't proven this yet but i've heard

00:57:02.780 from people that some of these people are some of these people actually come with subsidies so it's 0.98

00:57:07.640 cheaper to hire these people than it is to hire canadians but the long and the short of it is

00:57:12.060 you know these people are here on work visas that are supposed originally were only supposed to be

00:57:17.900 granted to literal rocket scientists and brain surgeons and people that we did not have in

00:57:24.000 canada capable of doing the work because the work was so high level and so rarefied right now they're

00:57:29.640 going to freaking coffee shop workers you know and you know and you know so today i don't know

00:57:34.340 whether you saw it or not on my ex post because it was it was kind of tongue in cheek so i sent

00:57:38.140 out a post to the alberta teachers right who are on strike now hashtag alberta teachers hey i have

00:57:43.740 a great plan for you right if you want to you want smaller class sizes and a 33 raise all you got to

00:57:51.860 do is vote for hashtag alberta independence i did see that we'll get rid of all federal income tax 0.98

00:57:57.500 we'll get a 30 33 bump in your take-home pay and we're going to start deporting all the people here

00:58:03.800 on temporary foreign worker visas and international mobility program visas and your class sizes are

00:58:09.900 going to start going down isn't that wonderful i gotta ask you have you done any popular have you

00:58:15.500 done any population projections in terms of interprovincial migration if this happens if

00:58:20.760 alberta becomes an independent country i mean i think maybe you'll lose a few marxists which is

00:58:25.620 great but do you think there's going to be a surge of canadians coming from other provinces

00:58:30.960 within i would imagine that we're going to get a lot of conservatives that want to move to alberta

00:58:35.480 right i mean even on the gun stuff that we're working on we're trying to get danielle to issue

00:58:39.600 a provincial gun license right um that would basically supersede the you know the carny gun

00:58:44.820 grab right and we know people from all across the country it's like if you get that done we're

00:58:48.700 moving to alberta we want to keep our guns right yeah yeah you know and yeah so that's all that's

00:58:54.580 all good i'm looking at the clock i see we only have like about six minutes left i just want to

00:59:00.000 back to the state department yes because there's some stuff in there that i think is particularly

00:59:04.980 newsworthy and i think that some of your you know your um some of your viewers may want to

00:59:09.620 contemplate right sure um and that is um you know obviously one of the things that we were talking

00:59:15.780 about you know in the same way we were speaking with the pq is you know would the united states

00:59:20.900 of america recognize alberta immediately upon the result of an uh of a successful referendum

00:59:26.480 right yeah so that was a major topic of conversation right and um you know without

00:59:32.400 you know without getting you know without telling you what the answer is you know we left the

00:59:36.340 meeting extremely optimistic that that would happen right do you want to see do you want to

00:59:41.780 see the glenn beck clip he's talking to uh to keith wilson yeah yeah we can throw it up here let's

00:59:47.300 department had a meeting a second high-level meeting in washington i think on monday and

00:59:54.780 our administration is eager to recognize Alberta as an independent state or country. Can you give

01:00:01.820 me any insight on what is happening on this side of the border? And what does that mean with our

01:00:08.080 relationship with the nutjob parts of Canada? Well, sure I can. I received a briefing from 0.99

01:00:12.980 that delegation yesterday. You know, I think the Trump administration is very concerned about

01:00:17.960 what's happening in Canada. My understanding from the meetings that have occurred that the

01:00:22.900 Trump administration officials have indicated that the U.S. would recognize a vote by the people of

01:00:29.480 Alberta to become independent. So that's very important to us as we go into, we expect the vote

01:00:34.740 to occur 2026 sometime around this time next year. And I think the Trump administration also

01:00:42.280 recognizes you guys have right above your border in Montana, the third largest reserve of oil and

01:00:49.940 gas in the world look at the power of that the energy independence it takes you from an energy

01:00:57.140 superpower to a mega superpower so and then we're completely culturally aligned so i think there's

01:01:04.320 a recognition and and canada's the leftists in ottawa are being global disruptors

01:01:09.360 that's beck seems very excited about the whole thing well yeah no and obviously we are too

01:01:17.260 right yeah it's like you know i mean having quebec's recognition having american recognition

01:01:23.100 um you know having an understanding as to what our trade arrangements are going to look like

01:01:28.060 in advance of a referendum i mean all of those things are extremely powerful and are going to

01:01:33.760 be extremely helpful in terms of getting us to a yes vote right you know the other thing is you

01:01:38.780 know i you know again you know let's just you know talk hypothetically but if i were to tell

01:01:43.680 you hypothetically that everybody around that table acknowledged that one of the big things

01:01:49.260 within the u.s national interest flowing from an alberta um alberta independence right and alberta

01:01:56.320 being recognized as an independent country is that would take that third largest oil reserve

01:02:01.420 in the world and probably what's now the largest gas deposit in the world in the motney field

01:02:06.220 out of the control of you know of a chinese communist adjacent government in ottawa

01:02:12.620 you know you got to imagine that that's in the u.s interest and you know that you know the people

01:02:17.920 you know that you know that i'm talking to um you know would agree with those exact words exactly

01:02:24.420 the way that i said them because we all acknowledge that you know the chinese

01:02:27.780 communists are basically running mark carney i mean he's more closely aligned with the

01:02:31.940 communist chinese than he is with the trump administration and all the all the marxists

01:02:36.860 in the eu as well oh 100 well they all i mean that they all are right i mean they're they're

01:02:41.320 all fellow travelers they're all communists right everybody you know like i saw a great quote you

01:02:46.960 know the other day from mussolini that said you know to call this fascism um you know is really

01:02:52.520 wrong really what it is is corporatism right and of course you know when you look at martin carney's

01:02:58.500 bill c5 and the fact that you know that you now have the dictator of canada deciding through the

01:03:04.520 government you know who gets what projects which of his buddies you know get you know are at the

01:03:09.380 trough you know who gets government money who gets sole source contracts you know on and on and on

01:03:14.360 Canada's looking an awful lot more like you know 1938 Mussolini's Italy than any Canada that we

01:03:22.140 ever grew up in where all we ever wanted from the government was basic common sense keep regulations

01:03:28.500 as low as possible keep taxes as low as possible so the capital from all over the world would want

01:03:34.020 to come and invest here because we have a stable low tax low regulatory environment with first

01:03:39.580 world legal systems the rule of law you know modern hospitals roads infrastructure you know

01:03:45.120 etc that's all out the window now and we now live in a country where we have major projects offices

01:03:51.480 a fascist dictator in ottawa operating on five-year plans you know that sound an awful lot

01:03:57.240 like joseph stalin's you know program and you know we're going to be like if this keeps going

01:04:01.880 the way it's going we're going to be venezuela in no time because that's the net result of these

01:04:06.540 types of policies in this kind of governance okay i gotta go thanks for coming on tonight my friend

01:04:10.940 i really appreciate it and we want to talk again as we get closer and closer and when something

01:04:15.640 big comes up please get a hold of me and we'll come on and talk about it well you know me if

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01:04:24.780 you know i know you will jeff thank you very much as always it's an honor and a pleasure to be on

01:04:29.100 shadow thanks for having me all right man i'll talk to you again soon jeff wrath the alberta

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01:09:43.560 Nahanni Fontaine's comments regarding the death of Charlie Kirk. Nahanni Fontaine is the Minister

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01:10:38.980 me i am the one who decided to keep this minister at the cabinet table time is expired i've got the

01:10:48.120 whole exchange for you in the extension which is coming up in a couple of minutes this is a very

01:10:54.080 interesting piece put together by tamara ugolini of rebel news today i thought wow i gotta show

01:10:59.080 you guys this former alberta investigator exposes federal behavioral engineering behind canada's

01:11:05.680 pandemic response. I have told you guys about Impact Canada. That is essentially Canada's

01:11:11.220 nudge team. But this goes even deeper. The COVID-19 pandemic exposed a critical insight that

01:11:20.560 was happening behind closed doors, mechanisms of persuasion and grooming that were designed

01:11:25.440 to address far broader challenges beyond just the virus itself. When Alberta-based medical

01:11:32.980 and regulatory investigator Natasha Gonnek lost her job over the COVID-19 vaccine mandates. She

01:11:38.760 didn't retreat. She began digging with a career steeped in sudden death investigations, regulatory

01:11:44.640 oversight of health professionals, and occupational health and safety. Gonnek turned her investigative

01:11:50.260 eye toward Canada's pandemic response. What she found, she says, was a disturbing pattern of

01:11:56.760 behavioral manipulation, suppressed data, and top-down decision-making that bypassed public

01:12:02.620 scrutiny. I was one of the casualties of the COVID-19 measures and employer mandates, Gonek

01:12:09.260 explains. That actually gave me a lot of spare time, and I used it to research and really dive in.

01:12:15.980 Before the pandemic, Gonek worked with Alberta's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner and as a

01:12:21.560 regulatory investigator for healthcare misconduct. My background has been extremely heavy on the

01:12:26.960 medical side, investigating medical practices, errors, procedures, policy, she says. Seeing when

01:12:32.860 things don't add up is what I've always done. That skill set made her a rare insider with a front

01:12:39.240 row seat to pandemic policy as it unfolded. In her work with frontline healthcare professionals,

01:12:45.280 she began hearing firsthand accounts from nurses and doctors about stark differences between what

01:12:51.220 was happening on the ground and what the media was reporting. Those were very substantial red

01:12:57.420 flags, she says. The way the narrative was groomed was quite substantial. One of GONEX's earliest

01:13:03.940 discoveries was a 2020 Alberta Health Services document titled, Attitudes and Adherence to

01:13:10.160 COVID Measures, a Behavioral Nudge Strategy. I flagged that to employers very early on,

01:13:19.320 she recalls. They shouldn't be putting out documents like that. From there, Natasha's

01:13:24.480 work expanded using access to information requests. She traced layers of working groups,

01:13:30.540 committees, and advisory boards, such as the COVID-19 Immunity Task Force, directly back to

01:13:36.360 federal ministries. You had the Vaccine Vigilance Working Group, the Vaccine Surveillance Working

01:13:41.800 Groups, causality committees for vaccine injuries, coroners, and medical examiners working groups,

01:13:48.520 layers and layers but who were they reporting to the answer gone excess points to canada's

01:13:54.720 highest offices the privy council health canada the public health agency of canada and the

01:14:00.560 ministry of innovation science and industry many of these advisory boards were packed with industry

01:14:06.080 insiders these were people in the vaccine industry on that covet 19 immunity task force group she

01:14:12.380 says they were directing funding for biotech companies for vaccine options even for communication

01:14:18.180 strategies to address vaccine hesitancy. Internal government documents from summer 2020,

01:14:25.100 which Gonek has archived, reveal a behavioral approach focused on persuasion rather than

01:14:31.560 transparency months before the rollout of the novel mRNA injections. They were grooming those

01:14:38.100 messages in July and August of 2020, before they released it, to ensure there wasn't vaccine

01:14:45.820 hesitancy, she says. They were talking about how to robustly handle disinformation campaigns while

01:14:51.060 admitting in the same meetings they didn't have long-term evidence. The potential implications

01:14:59.000 of this are serious, skirting informed consent for psychological conditioning and manipulation,

01:15:05.560 which leads Natasha's findings to law enforcement. At the request of sworn members of the Edmonton

01:15:11.900 police service, GONEC reviewed 9,000 pages of freedom of information documents showing that

01:15:18.660 police leadership knew pandemic measures could not withstand a legal test, yet implemented them

01:15:24.240 anyway. Our law enforcement's health was compromised because, sorry, let me start again.

01:15:29.780 Our law enforcement's health was compromised because of the measures put onto them, she says.

01:15:35.380 If your police leadership had knowledge of this, they can't be the ones to investigate. We need

01:15:40.940 independent investigators. For Gonek, the issue goes far beyond COVID-19. If you believe it's

01:15:49.500 over, you obviously haven't been to a care home or hospital, she warns. Long-term care facilities

01:15:55.060 are still locking patients down over a single PCR test. COVID just demonstrated a bigger issue.

01:16:00.920 These mechanisms were put in place to handle more than just COVID, something that I have

01:16:06.940 personally been saying for five years. Despite mounting disclosures and mounts of archived

01:16:15.060 documents, Gonek notes that federal agencies are increasingly redacting officials' names from

01:16:20.140 documents previously released unredacted. That tells me people are worried they've done something

01:16:26.100 wrong and don't want their name attached, she says. But where was the concern about the general

01:16:30.620 public. Even courts and oversight bodies succumb to top-down directives, making accountability

01:16:37.300 seem increasingly elusive. When the courts are compromised and law enforcement stays silent,

01:16:43.480 where's the public left to turn?

01:16:47.460 Hello, Universal Ostrich Farms. For now, Natasha and others are quietly archiving evidence,

01:16:53.960 confident the time for reckoning will come. You don't get to just move on when we have so many

01:16:59.780 people hurt and suffering, Ghanek concludes. This is not a witch hunt, but we do need to address

01:17:05.220 that there were decisions made and people harmed, and that needs an investigation. That is incredibly

01:17:11.060 good reporting by Tamera Ugolini of Rebel News. Pierre Polyev, not so brave.

01:17:19.880 He was asked yesterday and today about Universal Ostrich Farm, and here is his response both days.

01:17:27.420 Yesterday first, today last.

01:17:30.120 Watch.

01:17:30.580 What's your official stance on the ostriches in British Columbia and the culling order that they are facing?

01:17:38.060 Really incredible that the Liberals have caused so much.

01:17:42.260 Because of the Liberal incompetence, we're in this mess.

01:17:45.360 And when you have an incompetent government, you have messes like the inflation crisis,

01:17:50.420 like the crime crisis, like the border crisis, like the investment crisis,

01:17:55.400 like the fastest shrinking economy in the entire...

01:17:59.520 Yes, Pierre, she asked you about the ostrich farm.

01:18:02.600 What's your take on the ostrich farm?

01:18:04.160 Seven, when you have an incompetent government, 0.96

01:18:06.480 you get lots of these messes. 0.56

01:18:08.420 Wait, on the ostriches, sir.

01:18:09.900 Sir, you didn't say what your stance is on the ostriches.

01:18:12.300 Why won't you answer your stance on the ostriches?

01:18:14.140 I just did. I said the Liberals are incompetent. 0.97

01:18:16.040 That's my stance.

01:18:16.480 Do you support the calling order?

01:18:17.880 Can we get your reaction to the new lumber tariffs?

01:18:21.040 There is an ostrich farm out in BC

01:18:23.440 that's facing a potential call of its ostriches and supporters are looking to see if you support

01:18:29.160 or oppose this. Have you taken any kind of position on this or are you willing to speak

01:18:35.460 to this matter in the House as some of your MPs have? Well just yesterday I did speak on it

01:18:40.500 pointing out that this is just another example of total liberal incompetence. They've mismanaged

01:18:45.480 this from the very beginning and now they've left Canadians confused, farmers baffled by

01:18:53.360 the total incompetence by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency,

01:18:58.800 another disastrous liberal mishandling of an issue

01:19:02.660 that has left us with the problem we have today.

01:19:08.040 Dude, that was weak.

01:19:13.420 Yesterday's response was weak.

01:19:15.920 Today's response was not quite as weak, but still very weak.

01:19:19.980 why does he refuse to engage on this some of his mps have

01:19:26.040 is he in the pocket of big pharma

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The Shadoe Davis Show - October 03, 2025

Oct. 2nd⧸2025- Guest： Jeffrey Rath of The Alberta Prosperity Project

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