00:10:34.480in the car we got people here from all over the country already
00:10:38.840that's great awesome thank you people taking advantage of the bench that benches that darcy
00:10:51.220and i and mike quigley and a couple other people built last month there
00:10:55.900you built yeah the mood is really good today shadow um we woke up i'm just gonna switch
00:11:01.800cameras again here okay so uh you know we yesterday we had that meeting um we clarified a lot of the
00:11:14.120stuff got everybody on you know a nice even level um it ended really great really positive uh followed
00:11:22.240by a nice supper um the kitchen crew made a beautiful chili and um the bannock ladies here
00:11:29.440she had fresh bannock and salad and it's it's amazing like so much stuff pouring in so many
00:11:36.280people stepping up to volunteer uh food trucks we got a couple different food trucks three or
00:11:41.680three more of them coming in everything is kind of been crowdfunded um you know this is like this
00:11:48.180is farm aid 2.0 times two my friend um everybody's just coming together the spirits are high and
00:11:54.960we're all here for the right reason um and it's so darn refreshing man it seems like you guys are
00:12:01.820a lot more relaxed than a couple of days ago and that's obviously because of the stay order but uh
00:12:08.200on the phone earlier guys you know jeff and i were talking this afternoon and you were telling me a
00:12:13.480couple of stories about conversations you've had with some officers and they've gotten emotional
00:12:20.020yeah i mean you know not directly with me but there's been a moments um where we've been playing
00:12:26.200music uh there's been speeches or prayers uh whatever it may be and you know you can see that
00:12:32.580they get watery eyed they they they they're feeling what we're feeling they're human beings
00:12:37.760you know like they got souls they they got families they they you know they're they got
00:12:44.300humanity in their heart and sometimes you know we get clouded uh in life with whatever it may be
00:12:51.360all of us do it uh in our careers in this this um endless cycle that that the system has created
00:12:58.960for us that distracts us uh from the natural existence that we're really meant to embrace
00:13:05.380wow that's pretty philosophical my friend you bet brother you know the spirit's running through my
00:13:12.420the last few days yeah no kidding hey we hear tamara's coming out tomorrow tamara's coming
00:13:17.100tomorrow um jamie jamie nicks is coming tomorrow a few other people um so they're going to play
00:13:24.160some music have some fellowship in the evening um this is a very very short window um
00:13:32.120of of peace um of guarantee um next week you know things could change again so um we don't know what
00:13:41.860future holds but we know what today holds and we know what tomorrow holds and uh we're gonna roll
00:13:47.160with that the the ostriches are in a good mood today you can tell our energy is good so their
00:13:53.540energy is good they're feeling it um i went out last night with uh an infrared scope for a peace
00:14:00.440of mind and i was able to go to locations where we're legally allowed to be that aren't in um the
00:14:07.180the warranted zone and be able to find positions where I could really see all the different pens
00:14:13.140and you know the birds I can't say exactly how many are there it's hard to tell when you're only
00:14:19.080looking through infrared and but there's a lot there and they're doing what they're supposed to
00:14:23.920do so um we've been seeing some some video come out of the farm and I addressed this a little bit
00:14:30.320last night and you got a an ex-military sergeant out there who I think addressed the crowd last
00:14:34.960night people are releasing snippets of videos of maybe an ostrich running around with a with a
00:14:40.900rope around its neck or something but there's no context around it and so that yeah in and of
00:14:45.720itself can cause a panic and not just at the farm but all across canada because people are watching
00:14:51.960you know they're watching the whole situation and they're getting only fragments of information so
00:14:57.680have you addressed that at all um well yeah i mean i i have in my lives katie has but i mean
00:15:04.380not everybody might see my live um i i have asked jimmy to talk about her too that's my that's my
00:15:10.640point is that there's so many people sending lives out and a lot of them are contrary right
00:15:15.660like because somebody will add their own description yeah what's happening yeah so
00:15:21.480yesterday we established that there is there is a core crew of individuals here that speak on behalf
00:15:29.520of the farm so they've been authorized by esper and karen and katie and dave and eric that if if
00:15:37.640we say something that is that is on behalf of the farm they've been they've given us that trust
00:15:43.100and you know as well as i do someone like me i would never never breach that trust so you know
00:15:48.640essentially the the new the new thing is if you don't hear it from the family direct or myself
00:15:54.160or potentially jim kerr because he's here you know another close family member or you know
00:15:59.840then it might not be true we're not saying what everybody else is is saying isn't true but they
00:16:06.780don't speak on behalf of the farm unless they are sharing posts from the people or information from
00:16:12.980the people that the family um says is appropriate and the only reason why we're going down this road
00:16:18.820is for what you just said there shadow uh too many different stories so if people have an issue
00:16:24.260um they can connect with one of those people in directly or check out their feeds directly
00:16:30.940and they'll know exactly what's going on i will not show anyone anything but the transparent
00:16:37.140truth and i won't say anything to anyone but the transparent truth and that's kind of um how the
00:16:44.160core is uh working now um yeah there's gonna be a lot of people who are saying well freedom of
00:16:51.200speech i've got i can say what i want to say we can't control what you say but it doesn't it
00:16:56.080doesn't represent the farm at the end of the day and it might not be accurate and that's kind of
00:17:01.900our disclaimer um you know there there's got to be some sort of consistency when you get to a group
00:17:10.960this size when you get to a level this size so obviously you know people have their democratic
00:17:15.240right we can't tell people what to say or do and we don't want to tell people what we say what to
00:17:20.220say or do people are adults they can police themselves uh they don't need to be um you know
00:17:26.660scolded but we would like to think that everyone would represent you know the image that is here
00:17:33.600anyways that the family kind of wants to uh push out you know and that's peace love faith hope and
00:17:39.980strength and resilience um all the good things that that can come and turn into something better
00:17:47.640yeah you know it's interesting because people have been invested in this for months now and
00:17:53.960some people you know they're watching in let's say nova scotia or eastern ontario quebec they're far
00:18:00.600far away but they're feeling everything that you guys are putting out there and that means the
00:18:07.160panic also right so yes sir so if somebody is saying well we've got a cfia feeding the birds
00:18:15.340some poison you know then that's going to spread around and you wouldn't believe the messages this
00:18:22.560past week and i'm sure you've been going through the same if you've got if you've gotten a dent of
00:18:28.100the stuff that i've got shadow i feel for you brother i feel for you it's been like every
00:18:32.940morning i wake up i've got a hundred at least a hundred messages whether it's an email or a
00:18:37.600direct message or a text or something i heard that and so now you have to go through them and
00:18:44.800see what's real and and what's not and yeah i mean you're so bang on um you know that's it right
00:18:53.060there you know we set the tone here at the farm the people that are here that are boots on the
00:18:57.460ground set the tone um so if we if we give a a perception that we're panicked and that we're
00:19:04.760nervous and that we're stressed out well by all means of course the hundreds of thousands if not
00:19:09.880millions of supporters around the world they're going to be feeling that same kind of hysteria
00:19:14.220and they got it worse than us we're here we can see what's going on unless we're live unless you
00:19:21.360know you or someone else is kind of broadcasting what we're doing here no one really knows so
00:19:27.100So it's important that that tone stays solid, original and accurate and transparent because we're there, like we're there almost.
00:19:38.600And the last thing we need is to to spark some sort of negative avenue that is really not beneficial to anybody.
00:19:47.440So let's stay on the topic of misinformation while we're here.
00:19:50.540And I'm going right to the left-wing corporate media right now, where on the CBC yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, Ian Hadamansing had a virologist on from the University of Saskatchewan.
00:20:04.380And Dr. Rasmussen was saying that we have to assume the birds are sick and we have to follow the World Animal Health Organization's stamp-out policy.
00:20:16.940It didn't sound very scientific to me.
00:20:20.540Hannah Mansing also asked her if she had any political skin in the game, of course.0.90
00:20:24.260And they said, no, I went to her ex page where she's a she, her.
00:20:30.860So, yeah, I often find it surprising that if if I'm a guy and I choose to be a guy, I got to tell people that.
00:20:37.880Isn't that like a given? You know, like, yeah, we know you're a she.1.00
00:20:41.720Tell us if you decide to give yourself another one of those weird labels.1.00
00:20:44.700Like, other than that, I'm going to assume you're a she.1.00
00:20:47.280well speaking of assume like she said we assume the birds are still sick infectious and we have
00:20:52.700to stamp them out and i thought why not and the cbc didn't bring this up at all in that two minute
00:20:58.160interview why not test the birds why not test the birds has that been the question that people are
00:21:05.180still asking that i think it should be like top of the list it's the only one of the biggest things
00:21:11.040that just doesn't make sense you know it's so simple it it's it's it's elementary it's it's
00:21:18.100obvious um even some of the officers that are here when we get talking like why aren't they
00:21:24.140just testing them like it's it's the question you know it's gonna alleviate everything i mean i'd
00:21:30.160rather be at home with my family test the birds right yeah like test the birds right um and you
00:21:35.880know if they were right then shadow if if these birds have this magical flu that lasts 256 days
00:21:43.660then we would know wouldn't we i think so i think everybody would be dying there'd be an outbreak
00:21:49.040the entire area would be quarantined never mind just the ostrich pen you know it's funny you bring
00:21:55.140that subject up because you know as you know we we've gotten to know a lot of um people with a
00:22:00.420lot of credentials in this process uh dr stephen pellick among many others and uh you know their
00:22:07.440research and their data in these subjects are very clear you know there's an incubation period of of
00:22:13.880avian flu that lasts approximately seven to 14 days now in any cases where they have actually
00:22:20.700been able to prove um silent shedding or or shedding of a virus past um the time of symptoms
00:22:29.620very rarely do you find a study that suggests that silent shedding lasts more than seven days
00:22:36.600we're at 257 days today shadow that's like you getting sick in january and coming over to my
00:22:46.560house now and giving me a cold i could have had three or four colds since since january depending
00:22:53.400on my immune system i i saw a post as well from the ostrich farm on i think it was facebook
00:22:59.260maybe instagram where the cfia has been pumping out misinformation on their website which has
00:23:05.040been corrected by the farm are you aware of that yeah um do you want to like clarify which uh which
00:23:11.560items you uh that you're referring to because i honestly i never got a chance to specifically
00:23:18.700check it out but i have heard the talk uh when briefly talking to karen earlier um about about
00:23:25.320it okay so we're talking about treatment of animals for starters uh they're suggesting that
00:23:32.340the farm didn't or hasn't been treating the animals as per the guidelines of cfia that's
00:23:40.040just to start with yeah okay yeah i know exactly what you're referring to now yeah0.76
00:23:44.420so so yeah i mean it's bullshit i mean i don't know what else to say anyone who's been here0.93
00:23:52.280sees the love and the care that karen puts into the the ostrich plan here when it comes to their0.96
00:24:00.240feeding plan when it comes to their health plan um their maintenance plan i mean that woman's got0.71
00:24:06.260an answer for everything veterinarians come to her and and because she is one of the leading
00:24:12.900experts because of her years and years and years of experience in those pens um to ask her questions
00:24:19.420you know like well what would you do if an ostrich was this what would you do if an ostrich was that
00:24:24.280you know it's ironic the cfia should be hiring karen to go into the pens and or dave to go into
00:24:32.240the pens and to take care of them because they know what they're doing the guys in there they're
00:24:36.940talking about care the guys in there are like five-year-olds running around trying to catch
00:24:42.780their dog with a leash like they they don't know what's going on they don't know how to feed them
00:24:48.820they don't know how to care for him they have to ask karen and dave everything anyways so wait a
00:24:53.440minute has there been communication then between cfia and karen and dave yeah there is a communication
00:24:59.260established it's done through a portal um but it is talk directly what what is the matter
00:25:06.260with just having a conversation i mean that's where they can start building some kind of
00:25:12.380relationship yeah yeah i mean just like we did with the rcmp here right you know you're going
00:25:18.600to build some trust some some leeway but yeah the portal is just like an online email portal you
00:25:26.100don't know who you're talking to you might it's like one of those call centers you know when
00:25:30.480you're like on your phone plan and you're like man i need some help and you go online and check
00:25:35.380it all out and they're like yeah talk to the bot like that's what it feels like well it's it's like
00:25:40.340when parents separate and they have to communicate through that online portal they're not allowed to
00:25:46.240speak to each other over the care of the child that's what they're doing here really it's exactly
00:25:51.080the same channel that's a perfect example oh wow that's insane and then you know like everyone's
00:25:57.320really busy here so like karen and dave aren't sitting there at the computer waiting for an
00:26:02.640email to go dang your next email is in here like they're dealing with their lawyer they're dealing
00:26:08.000with media they're dealing with hundreds of people that want to ask them questions and want to know
00:26:13.200what's going on and that phone's ringing non-stop like it doesn't stop from the time morning to
00:26:19.740tonight and um you know there is always something to do around here you know the kitchen is like
00:26:25.900command center of everybody just doing a hundred things you know um have you got a secure roof
00:26:34.800on the kitchen now so that if it rains it's not going to cave in oh that kitchen yeah yeah no
00:26:39.820they're they're okay um for now um let's hope this doesn't stretch through to the winter
00:26:44.660because um none of these tents are made for for uh kootenai mountain winter but um man
00:26:51.240we'll adjust if we have to we we're gonna i want to know if you've heard anything about
00:26:57.080when the supreme court is going to make their decision well you know like omer has said you
00:27:03.540know don't talk too much about you know the stuff the the the substance of everything but you know
00:27:09.660the timeline is is we know that uh the the cfia has responded already to the to the stay order
00:27:19.220so that initiates the 48 hour or sorry the two-day process of the farm being able to respond
00:27:26.860and then at that point the um the supreme court justice justice or the supreme court could take
00:27:34.140an indefinite amount of time to decide on the decision so we don't know the exact day but i
00:27:40.840mean it couldn't be any earlier than probably wednesday or thursday and it could be however
00:27:47.940long the supreme court decides to take after that yeah dude it's the supreme court they might take
00:27:53.160a month or two and then if they say yeah we're going to hear the case it could be scheduled
00:27:58.180for sometime next year which is i suppose good news yeah like i i'm sure they would expedite
00:28:03.800this but yeah you're absolutely right it's still not going to be like okay uh we're gonna do court
00:28:08.880uh can you be here monday at five you know like it ain't gonna work that way these are bureaucrats
00:28:14.760you know this is the supreme court i maybe they work that quick but nothing in canada works that
00:28:21.120quick so the other thing is uh daniel nagasi dr nagasi has put out a video today yeah no i know
00:28:27.860And you know what? I am not going to talk about the substance of what he discusses in his video regarding the science of it.
00:28:36.240What I am going to do is invite Dr. Nagese on the show at some point next week, but only if he would debate with Dr. Pellick.
00:28:45.020I would love that. You know what, Shadow? I will be glued to that show if you do that.
00:28:50.140Yeah, I'd be happy to have both of them on at the same time. They can debate the processes and everything that has been done with these ostriches in the name of science. But I would like to address what he said regarding a psyop. To me, a psyop is something that is designed to divide people.
00:29:07.880It's designed to distract people from away, away from things that are really going on.
00:29:13.540Now we can walk and chew gum at the same time, but this whole thing, and it would also suggest
00:29:18.940that the family is working with the government.
01:02:43.360This despite the fact that China is responsible for 35% of all global CO2 emissions.
01:02:49.540Okay, so I'm going to stop him right there and say,
01:02:53.080why don't the conservatives in this country come out and say that there is no climate emergency?
01:02:58.360it's all a scam like trump did the other night during his un speech why do they tacitly agree
01:03:06.040with the liberals that there is some kind of climate problem and we're going to help to fix0.99
01:03:11.360it unlike the liberals why do they approach this issue like that why don't they have the balls to0.99
01:03:19.200say hey look you know all these scientists over here they say you guys are crazy and this is0.99
01:03:24.480nothing but a scheme a scheme and a scam but no they keep going along with it maybe they think
01:03:33.520it's a losing battle i don't know but it's weak and spineless building new coal-fired electrical
01:03:40.580plants at record speeds meanwhile while he was praising china for its terrible environment
01:03:47.360performance he had his liberal mps vote to keep the production cap on canadian oil and gas
01:03:52.520oh and there he is running away from parliament before question period so that he doesn't get
01:03:59.600embarrassed there he goes this isn't surprising at all after the week he's had it's no wonder
01:04:05.220he's desperately trying to avoid any kind of accountability coming in at number two the
01:04:10.000independent parliamentary budget officer parliament's budget watchdog came out with
01:04:15.480shocking numbers today. Mark Carney's deficit will be $68 billion. During the campaign when
01:04:24.200he needed your vote he promised, he put in the Liberal platform, made a written commitment that
01:04:28.740the deficit would never go higher than $63 billion. Well he's blown past that promise. That means
01:04:35.560under Mark Carney more of your tax dollars is going to go to pay the interest on the debt
01:04:39.880Then on health care or the military, 11 cents out of every dollar you'll pay in taxes will go to pay bankers and bondholders just on the debt that the carny Trudeau liberals have racked up.