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- August 06, 2022
Shadoe at Nite Friday Aug. 5th⧸2022 w⧸Ron Clark and Freedom George!
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this is friday august the 5th 2022 on the show tonight ron clark freedom advocate and freedom
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george billings from alberta ron by the way is at the center of canada there's going to be a big
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pig roast and celebration and reunion for all the convoy truckers and supporters tomorrow we're
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going to talk more about that as well let's say some hellos to tanya who is watching from
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lacdabani steve is watching as well from up in selkirk is his place up in selkirk that still
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needs numbers on the front timber is watching from swan river hello janet in emerson sandy is
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watching in saint anne's maryland is in simcoe ontario linda uh from alberta lynn is watching
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from meckerow in or macaro in northeast ontario lois is watching from windsor hello muriel from
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alberta kita is watching from vernon british columbia wine country i love it there richard
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from vancouver hello lisa is watching from burlington ontario hello linda watching from
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lady lake saskatchewan shelley's and portage la prairie julietta in waterloo that's the thing
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about kitchener waterloo cambridge you can't say tri-cities you can't say kw it's got to be
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kitchener or waterloo or cambridge they get very very uh bitchy if you hey man i totally
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understand that your city is your city uh lorette is watching from new brunswick charlotte is
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watching from new york roberta from moncton maya from the bose azure area carrie is watching from
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somewhere hello Len watching from Woodhaven Lena is watching Alina from Cornwall Ontario Fern from
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British sorry Prince Edward Island Gord from Winnipeg Selena is watching from Alberta I believe
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but I think you were on a road trip weren't you weren't you in the mountains Selena I think you
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were up in Jasper I just happened to catch that on a Facebook feed Lorena is watching from the
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peg harvey and grand rapids cheryl lynn watching from saskatoon welcome everybody to the show
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between 10 and one o'clock in the afternoon all right a couple of special guests
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the guys who were involved in the trucker convoy the freedom convoy in ottawa that's
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been vilified by the left-wing corporate media and the government claiming that it was illegal but
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we all know better freedom george billings is here george welcome to the show freedom
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ron clark is also with us he is at the center of canada welcome to the show you guys i know that
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the two of your friends having met in ottawa but i want to find out a little bit about you guys
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tonight because you both have notoriety across canada amongst the freedom movement in different
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ways george you were kind of a cheerleader in ottawa and you pumped people up when things were
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looking down a little bit you got yourself arrested for it spent some time in jail
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i want to find out all about that ron you've got a bit of a different story you were out there for
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two and a half three weeks just kind of telling us what was going on out there via your facebook
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page and the channel that you've created with so many different followers let's start with you ron
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before the convoy began what was your life like well it was still hectic uh my wife was going
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through a lot of uh treatments and uh she has a compromised autoimmune and uh we spent a lot of
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time in the hospital with her and stuff and then that's where i got to see all the stuff going on
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the hospital because they let me in so roaming around the hospitals and stuff i've seen all kinds
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of crazy stuff and it's like you know something's not right and uh then i basically a week before
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we left to go to ottawa i uh i accepted the lord and asked where i should go and you know there's
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my journeys and i'm still on that journey in that path right now was it a uh was it a big decision
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to go to ottawa did you go on your own did you go with a bunch of other people how did that play out
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well i i went with the group of people we left uh january 24th in uh red deer alberta with uh
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pat king we met with that group there and then traveled down to calgary but uh i've met pat and
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george uh previous before all of this uh the year before when we were on the ledge grounds at the
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teepees that's where i first met the guys and uh i bumped into pat at a rally a week before we were
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going and he asked if i was going and i was like probably i want to go and then when i left that
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day that's when i accepted the lord and got home and asked you know what should i do what should i
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do and then everybody just led me down that path that i had to be in ottawa it must have been a
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huge decision uh you know not just for you but for your family and financially as well i mean
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did you ever wonder how am i gonna how am i actually gonna make it down there well i was
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i was still doing okay i wasn't broke or nothing like that and uh we we took the journey and my
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wife uh and my kids were on board with it the mother-in-law uh they were all on board with it
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i just packed my bag and said i don't know i'll i'll see you when i get back sort of thing because
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we didn't know if it was one week two three we didn't know so you know i was i was okay to go
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down there for that event for that time what about you george what was your because you're
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you're not a trucker by trade right you're you work the fields or you are as well i'm a farmer
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jack of all trades master of none you do it all yeah pretty much i can renovate houses do plumbing
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electrical whatever yeah did you both know before the convoy that things were looking grim and
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getting grimmer oh yes yeah like he said where uh rod had met that night was was at the legislature
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and we had uh we had occupied that for 22 days in 2021 i believe our uh end of september into
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october for 22 days so we were already on on the path of uh of fighting for our freedoms before the
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convoy came so when the convoy did start rolling out were you fully on board george or did you have
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some trepidation about going uh at first i you know i i just started logging again you know i
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drive truck in the winter time doing logging mostly up here and i kind of just taking a job
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on and I was oohing and on about it but uh of course um you know Pat Pat didn't have to twist
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my arm too hard to uh to make me join the convoy and my buddy Owen was actually living with me at
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the time too and we just we just knew we had to go so I just packed a truck full of tools and you
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know air compressors and and whatever we needed to uh to help people out along the way and then we
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mind so what was the trip like from the beginning until the time you got to ottawa and i was
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monitoring this the whole time because i went oh this is real this is really actually starting to
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happen so here in manitoba in winnipeg we were expecting you guys at the flying jay i forget
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exactly it was minus 35 it was ridiculously cold and there was a huge turnout to to greet all of
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the truckers and i thought you know i went with my girlfriend carrie and i said we have to be at
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this this is history in the making this is something that you don't see ever yeah I've
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never seen this before I don't know if I'm ever going to see this again in my lifetime hopefully
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we do uh 10 times as large going forward uh not necessarily with trucks and farm equipment but
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just with people right like we need people ultimately um what was it like for you guys
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from the beginning to end did you feel as though you were picking up momentum did you feel like
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the crowds were getting bigger in every town you stopped in? Ron? Oh, definitely. Well, you know,
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we had the Guinness Book of World Records convoy before we even got out of Alberta
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and, and driving as we went more and more people, you know, along the ditches and the approaches in
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the little towns and, you know, little kids out there fist pumping with, you know, F.U. Trudeau
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signs and stuff. It was, it was pretty cool. You know, the, the energy was absolutely just,
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just amazing um was it like that all the way through or or did it pick up steam as you got
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closer to ottawa well i would have to say manitoba really really stepped up when we went over like
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obviously albert saskatchewa and everybody was awesome but manitoba was was uh just off the hook
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you know i i actually raced ahead when we were supposed to go to the flying jay in winnipeg i
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raced ahead of the whole convoy pat had sent me up there to make sure the parking lot was clear so
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i got there and i was of course i just climbed over the curbs with my truck and went in there
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and started getting people out of there telling them to get out we have a convoy coming because
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it was just packed there and then it turns out the cops uh blocked it off on us anyways and
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kind of kiboshed that plan there what about you ron do you feel the momentum picking up and
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you guys and i want to know about your emotional state too because when you first started out
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you may not have known what was going to happen as you made your way across the country
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well that morning when we left red deer and uh we traveled down to calgary you know there was
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people on the streets and they were cheering us on but when we got into calgary at the flying j
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you know to meet the the other convoy and it was like we we were in some of us were in the
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flying jay and the rest of them were still out on the highway we couldn't even get them in it was
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just crazy and then that morning when we left there we had to scatter in all different directions
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and meet back up on the number one highway and then going through medicine hat was like
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the first experience with all the people on the streets and and but like like just like george
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said when we got into brandon wow like we were doing two kilometers an hour on the trans canada
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highway we couldn't move nowhere and the signs and the people it was you know you're so drained
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from driving all day but seeing those people just just kept you pumped up and just adrenaline was
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going it was I've never heard so many grown men crying all my life on a road radio man it was just
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it was so emotional and something I will never forget in my lifetime and every time I watch
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the videos it's hard for me to watch them as a as we were driving to ottawa it's just so emotional
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from seeing all the the little kids on the side of the road holding a sign that says
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unmask me or calling us heroes and you know the two north strong and three written in the snow
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banks and there was either two people in these little towns in northern ontario and then when
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you get into the cities it's just chaos and but it was so much love and so much joy and happiness and
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it was the most amazing thing that I've ever experienced in my life and I will never forget it
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did you both understand the magnitude like like I just described uh Ron had an issue with his
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phone earlier today so that no I didn't no I didn't it was all fine I don't even go there
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we're not we're not going to talk about it I just say you dropped it in some water let's just say
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that may be why he blinks out from time to time no i just had a phone call i just get out of here
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i did i threw it in the rice and it works great oh boy as i was talking about uh i thought that
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it was a moment in history that we would never see again when you guys rolled through uh winnipeg
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where i was at did you guys understand that did you realize what you were a part of yes yeah for
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sure certainly we did and uh when you feel that energy going across the country when you see all
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those people out there at minus 30 minus 40 you know we were still traveling sometimes at 11 o'clock
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at night and then all of a sudden you'd see a little old lady with a little fire on the side
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of the road out there you know out there supporting um i pulled up to some red lights in some spots
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where we got stopped in the little towns in that and there'd be thousands of people you know in
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the intersection and stuff and i would just get out on my freedom truck right on the running bar
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and scream i can't hear you and everybody would just erupt and you could just feel the energy and
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it was just amazing because if you think about that the energy going across in that convoy
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with all the kilograms of weight and the force that's moving in unity and in love you know like
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you just can't stop something like that no that's the thing is uh we've given so much people hope
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A lot of people thought that they were alone and, you know, they're by themselves.
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And then when this convoy came, it just gave so much hope for people.
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It was the most amazing thing to see.
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When you got closer to Ottawa, what kind of trouble did you get from police or just from the general flow of traffic?
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I mean, at that point, you guys were meeting with convoys that were coming from the east, from Quebec and the Maritimes.
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And then there was all the Ontario trucks that were joining you guys along the way, too.
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I mean, what was that like?
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It was quite crazy because I know Pat and a bunch of the other people, organizers, they say,
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were in touch with the OPP and the cops and stuff like that.
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And they had all this stuff set aside in the spots we could park.
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And they changed a lot of that on us when we got close.
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All of a sudden, they had parking spots here and we couldn't go there.
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and you know they kind of blocked off some of the roads uh that sergey john johnson i think it was
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called and stuff we were you know we were supposed to go right up wellington from there and have all
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that and they changed it but um like me personally we snuck in the uh the night before from outside
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of ottawa we were actually already there um when uh when our convoy come in the next morning
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we had like we had we'd already snuck into the to the city so
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right um well myself when i left arm prior and that was a mess first thing in the morning trying
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to get that many people out of there like we were piled up on the streets for miles and miles
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just trying to get in and then i got veered off with a part of our group and i was down by the
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river somewhere for hours just sitting there and they said yeah the roads are closed nobody else
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is getting in so trying to get out of there and make my way into the city and then i i found a
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spot you know down on metcalf by the circle k and that was my new home for the next three weeks
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but it was uh it was definitely a mess trying to get in uh that first night so once things got
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settled down in downtown ottawa and the people were all arriving or had arrived and you guys
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had pretty much filled up the uh the downtown space with the big rigs and and not just big
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rigs but there was also half tons and just regular cars in there as well and and uh other types of
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maybe one tons in there uh too when did when did the camaraderie parts start the second you arrived
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and parked or did it take a while to develop oh that pretty much was an instant thing as soon as
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we rolled in like the very first night that was january 29th and i made sure that i made it to
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parliament hill and then the fireworks were going off and it was pretty much lit from day one when
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we rolled in right to the end when uh yeah well the you know the ending part there that it didn't
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like us having any more fun well we're gonna we're gonna get to that in just a second what about you
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yours because you guys both took on different roles as i pointed out at the at the top of the
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show george you were more of a cheerleader you were going from rig to rig from area to area i
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know that certain parts of the country i think there was a manitoba corner wasn't there or
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winnipeg corner something like that a winnipeg corner yeah in in ottawa like there were a bunch
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of guys from winnipeg uh oh yeah there was there was certain groups that were in certain places
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there and um everybody kind of tried to stick together with their groups but lots of people
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did get split up because they just like like ron said it was just chaos trying to get in there so
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um people just got where they could and and and you know you just made new friends you made new
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family there on the street with whoever was close to you and and really you just made friends with
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pretty much everybody that was out there except of course those antifa people and and those the
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haters that were kind of coming down in there you know screaming and hollering at us but
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you know i you know i did my part i was taking donations from people and i was going to the
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truckers with hundred dollars you know i could only withdraw four hundred dollars at a time from
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the bank account and i would go out and i'd even videotape it we're out on the highway and i'd be
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running whenever we stopped i'd go and i'd run down there and show everybody that i was dishing
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out this money to the truckers and stuff and then by the end of it i uh i started dishing out
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lot of my own money too went went farther past my donations and i realized holy cow
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i better slow down here i'm gonna be right broke
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uh what was is it true guys that because i do have video of it that i that i put up on the page
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there was people uh truckers supporters they were out cleaning the streets to make sure
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that the streets were cleaner afterwards than when they arrived there
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those those streets were clean the whole entire time we were there they were shoveling snow we
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were hauling the garbage out so it can be easily picked up the way things came together it was
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it was the neatest thing to see but everybody was protected everything was clean down there
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there was no crime going on like as soon as we got there crime was down 90 percent
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Ottawa was the cleanest as it has ever been, you know, since we rolled in.
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They were coming down and they were literally saying they've never seen downtown Ottawa so clean ever.
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They're just shoveling the sidewalks.
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You know, there was a bunch of stairs and stuff over by the War Memorial.
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And the War Memorial itself wasn't shoveled when we got there.
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You know, all this stuff was just not taken care of.
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And the people took care of it.
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like they took care of all the slippery spots wherever there was snow all the garbage just
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it all just come together and everybody did their part no matter how big or small the part was
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you know i want to clear something up because this is something that i haven't been able to
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wrap my head around not even since then i've thought about it and went huh all of these
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downtown merchants the restaurants down there the businesses down there they were all complaining
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they had to shut their doors because they were scared and to me it seems like okay wait a minute
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wait a minute hold on here you guys have got an opportunity with thousands of people in your
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downtown in a time of year where there's not usually thousands of people in your downtown
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you have a chance to make money hand over fist here what's the real story there did businesses
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keep their doors open or did some of them actually shut i think they were forced to shut they say they
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did it because they were scared but i think they were forced personally um you know there was two
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Tim Hortons down there that stayed open for
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a couple weeks and
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the truckers and everybody, you know,
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just random people were cleaning the floors
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for them and cleaning their bathrooms and helping
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them out to keep their store clean because there's so
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many people, you know, to get coffee
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and then all of a sudden they got shut down too
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so I don't know what happened there, but
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You think it was political, George?
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I believe that
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110%. These people
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could have made more money in three weeks than they
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did in two years. Yeah.
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yeah i mean ridiculous how many we heard anywhere between 15 and a hundred thousand people and i
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guess that it would have fluctuated from time to time depending on when it was and what the weather
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was like and and whatnot but you guys were all you guys were both there for pretty much the entire
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time ron you were there for two and a half three weeks george you were there a little bit longer
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than that but some of it was spent uh in the who's gal but how many people would you would
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you guys say were there that first weekend uh the first weekend it oh it's hard to tell because
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they're just scattered all over the place like the streets were full all over so it's like it's
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really hard to tell i would say a couple hundred thousand you know i would if i had to guess and
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then the second weekend i would say probably even more than that did you meet a lot of ottoans there
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in support of you guys a lot of locals oh yes we've met a lot of local people down there
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and they were supporting us they came down uh and thanking us and asking us not to leave there
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was elderly people it's the first time they've ever felt safe in their life living in ottawa
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because they were afraid to walk down the streets of being mugged and stuff asking the truckers
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please do not leave in front of my house but there were some ottawa people that were upset
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but when we when we had a conversation with them and talking with them and you know you see the
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next day they're actually coming down and hanging out with us and chatting with us yeah you know
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they just have to to to speak with us and understand what we're trying to do and you know
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stop being so angry yeah when you have growing men coming down and finding you and grabbing you
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in complete tears they're just a blubbering mess you you know you're you're healing you know you're
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helping out and and they don't want you to leave they they act like what ron said like i've never
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had so many growing men cry on my shoulder and and ask us not to leave and thank us for everything
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we've done and it was just absolutely amazing what about altercations because you know how
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the left-wing corporate media painted this i mean it was never favorable uh you guys know that i
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mean i watched it i laughed and that's why i was happy that you know people like ron and winnipeg
00:27:43.260
alternative media and live from the shed all those guys started streaming live because we were
00:27:47.740
getting more more of the real story more of the inside story actually the left-wing corporate
00:27:51.840
media painted you guys as hooligans as villains as uh provocateurs in some cases nazi flags and
00:27:58.660
whatnot did you guys actually speak to the media at all no mostly just ran them off
00:28:07.800
yeah well you you try and they're like oh can we interview you i'm like okay well can i keep my
00:28:14.120
live video going and interview you at the same time oh no no we can't do that well of course
00:28:19.120
you can't do that because then you can't manipulate the story right right and it's the same as the
00:28:23.980
antipa flag and the confederation flag you know one guy shows up and the media runs right over to
00:28:29.440
them and films that one flag and then you know you got hundreds of people getting them out of
00:28:34.340
get out of here we don't need you down here because anytime that something sparked it would
00:28:38.940
have stopped that movement and we would have been blamed for everything so everybody down on them
00:28:43.900
streets were always watching 24 7 to make sure that nobody came in there to try to stir up
00:28:50.340
something to end what we what we were doing down there yeah and every time there was a conflict
00:28:57.080
from their uh from their paid thugs basically there was a group of police officers or wherever
00:29:03.360
there i believe they were un people um the media would be there right with the whole gas can thing
00:29:11.040
uh when they were confiscating that they went up to a family that had a cart full of gas cans and
00:29:17.240
then the camera pops out and they videotape that and then spread it around no we're stopping all
00:29:21.980
the gas from going down there there was another one that uh they had something about stealing food
00:29:28.040
from a from a food bank or something oh yeah the food banks were never so full in there they
00:29:32.700
couldn't even handle all the food that we were giving giving them because because we couldn't
00:29:36.960
even handle the food that was being donated so we're taking it down there and it was if anybody
00:29:42.440
was stealing it that would be antifa and of course it would be get blamed on everybody else right
00:29:47.500
yeah it just it boggles the mind when you think of all of the good things that you guys tried to do
00:29:55.540
your intentions were good you wanted to make a point and you were speaking on behalf of millions
00:30:00.180
of us and i want to thank you both for for doing that uh first of all for me and from all the
00:30:05.460
regular viewers here i mean we have so much love and admiration for you both and for what you did
00:30:09.880
um as time went on and the festivity started to slow down a bit and less people were showing up
00:30:18.040
because i was watching this too uh through a couple of different sources that i have
00:30:22.760
uh weekends were always good through the entire uh protest i don't i almost called it an occupation
00:30:29.700
there but that would have been a left-wing corporate media expression because it was not
00:30:33.220
an occupation by definition it was it was a protest uh and there was nothing illegal about
00:30:38.400
it and i have consulted three different lawyers on this and all of them have said no there was
00:30:43.040
nothing illegal about this uh the government and the left-wing corporate media have called it that
00:30:47.440
and i've got a story coming up in just a second towards the end of the show the cbc uh actually
00:30:52.880
states that the occupation sorry the convoy was called an illegal occupation and they're they're
00:31:00.480
still investigating some police officers from different services across the country who made
00:31:05.440
donations to either give send go or the other one there i forget what it is uh but go fund me right
00:31:12.580
when you guys started to hear the news of go fund me getting shut down and then give send go
00:31:19.100
uh getting shut down as well based upon something that happened uh with the ontario provincial
00:31:24.140
government did you realize that your time might be starting to wind down and if so did you realize
00:31:32.360
how it was going to end let's start with george um well the whole go fund me right from the start
00:31:40.440
i had nothing to do with it i didn't want to have anything to do with it no way no how i just wasn't
00:31:47.320
going to get involved with that go fund me stuff um but i don't why not george why why not i mean
00:31:55.340
all the truckers were supposed to be there's just a lot of there's just a lot of money there and and
00:32:01.260
a bad thing bad things come from that so i just did my own kind of private fundraising
00:32:06.540
and dished it out to the truckers as i could i just didn't i just i just don't like it and look
00:32:12.020
what happened right and then look at all the accusations that are being made now about about
00:32:15.960
the people that are that are you know involved with the gofundme so my heart was in the right
00:32:20.680
place when i made that decision but when it comes down to um you know people were still down there
00:32:27.660
donating people were still bringing in the food the fuel like the residents were helping out
00:32:33.280
to be honest with you the gold fund me would have paid for the fuel and everything for the truckers
00:32:38.280
but while we were there i don't think i don't think it would have stopped because the people
00:32:43.520
themselves were bringing in the supplies without the go fund me right ron did you notice the change
00:32:51.140
of tone at a certain point during the uh the rally not really you know they took the go fund
00:32:58.820
me away and it was like okay well that's the government trying to stop this you know stop
00:33:02.700
from us you know trying to come together but uh just like george said like even if the go fund
00:33:08.900
wasn't there the food was coming everything that was coming people were just throwing stuff at us
00:33:15.200
don't leave we need you here it was it was the craziest thing to ever witness in my life but
00:33:20.280
i don't think we've ever needed that gofundme it was just enough gas to get the auto on after that
00:33:27.020
point that everything was already taken care of people were just naturally just showing up with
00:33:31.640
stuff that people needed anything that you needed it was there just to make sure that we stayed there
00:33:37.100
didn't leave and go anywhere what about the cops i mean i i've heard different people tell me the
00:33:42.780
cops were great uh in the first week or so and then about halfway through it they started to
00:33:48.800
change their tone a little bit they weren't as uh talkative or genial did you guys notice that
00:33:53.800
the cops that were all in the downtown area the whole time they were all good i never ran into
00:34:00.320
any really bad ones you could go up and talk to them they were they were happy you know they were
00:34:06.160
just doing their job and and you know i never really found a because they're always sitting
00:34:12.040
in the same spots where they had things blocked off right so there was always one there you could
00:34:16.420
go and talk to her three or four or ten or whatever and it was the other ones the ones
00:34:21.320
that were walking around the little groups the paid thugs that's what i call them the other ones
00:34:27.400
were the city cops doing their jobs and i think they're you know they're having a good time i
00:34:31.420
i laughed with quite a few of them did you ever discuss at all the whole freedom movement with
00:34:37.520
any of those guys george did you did you guys understand what we're doing some of them are
00:34:42.660
really on board with it they just can't do anything because they lose their job they're
00:34:48.220
just doing their job and that's the biggest answer you get something like a lot of them will say keep
00:34:53.540
doing what you're doing keep doing what you're doing we support but i mean that's as far as you
00:34:58.600
get with them they won't say that publicly right they just they don't want to lose everything they
00:35:04.080
have what about you ron did you notice a change of tone with the cops at the beginning there were
00:35:12.240
so many nice cops chatting with them halfway through they were still nice they were still
00:35:16.920
chatting uh some of them would even say you know i'd love to have the conversation with you
00:35:20.920
outside of this and they're pointing to their uniforms right like a lot of them were on board
00:35:25.540
i'd say it was would have been the last the thursday before the weekend it was the other
00:35:33.620
group that came in all those other ones walking around even the ones that came out of the park
00:35:38.960
aids at nighttime and stuff they they weren't that bad they'd have a conversation with you
00:35:44.280
they would nod they would smile uh we even have little kids giving them flowers and stuff
00:35:48.960
it was it was right towards the end when the different group came in to handle the situation
00:35:55.460
now let's talk about that because i i recall watching everything that was going on
00:36:01.760
who's got the train in the background
00:36:05.580
the last friday of the uh of the of the convoy when the cops started the show of force thing
00:36:22.020
were you guys aware that was going to happen that day were you monitoring a radio did you know it
00:36:27.860
was coming or did it just appear well actually we thought it was the day before because pat and
00:36:34.720
owen and i actually went and found where they were at the infinity center i have it all on live
00:36:39.860
we went and found where they were and there was a huge building with hundreds of cop cars in there
00:36:46.220
and of course me and pat we had driving in there with my freedom truck videotaping it and then an
00:36:51.440
undercover car comes up and says get out of here freedom so we left out of here freedom yeah they
00:36:57.820
yelled at me and told me to get out of there freedom and so we had left and we just parked
00:37:01.620
outside on the road and we watched uh four buses come with just and guys just getting off cops one
00:37:08.560
after another so we had thought that the morning before which would have been thursday morning
00:37:14.500
that they were coming so we didn't know what to do we were like okay so do we go wake everybody up
00:37:21.180
or do we not wake everybody up and then have them come down and be ripping people out of the vehicles
00:37:27.620
so we made the choice to go down there and wake everybody up a bunch of people got pissed off at
00:37:32.720
us because we did that but it was the choice we made because we thought they were coming
00:37:37.100
but on friday was the day that they came right they went and blocked everything off it was the
00:37:42.260
next day and they started pushing down at the end of willington so how did they arrive because you
00:37:48.760
guys were all still there and and i don't know how many because again you know the population
00:37:53.180
of the convoy was fluctuating anywhere between a hundred thousand two hundred thousand twenty
00:37:57.260
thousand five thousand ten thousand you don't know how many people are there at any given time
00:38:02.160
how did they actually get into the downtown bus they just just buses they just came in
00:38:08.220
yeah well right right where the we cross over the bridge i think it's on uh sussex and uh
00:38:14.460
redale drive that was the last corner so everything beyond that point was wide open
00:38:20.100
so you can come in and then they came up by the river and then that's when they just started
00:38:25.020
coming in slowly and you can see them congregating now myself i was supposed to be on a conference
00:38:31.320
call with laura lynn and stuff at the elgin hotel so i had to walk in because i i ran out for a bit
00:38:38.540
and they blocked all the streets nobody was allowed back in so i took a taxi i had to walk
00:38:42.920
down about 15 blocks to get back in and they're like hey ron everything's going to crazy the cops
00:38:47.860
are down there i'm like okay well i'm not going to go to the elgin hotel for a conference meeting
00:38:52.780
i don't need to be there and then when you got down there it was just a small group kind of
00:38:57.840
holding off everything and then it just started getting bigger and bigger and then they bring in
00:39:02.480
the horses and then they're big tanks well not tanks but they're armored vehicles and you know
00:39:08.500
they were just taking warm-up breaks and switching out but they just got a little bigger in the
00:39:13.220
groups because there's nobody behind them right they can just come right in and start pushing um
00:39:18.260
so that's when a lot of the uh the convoy supporters the the truckers the freedom fighters
00:39:25.820
they all kind of was there a fence like from from what i remember watching on video there was a fence
00:39:32.580
a small one of those little metal fences and a bunch of cops standing behind that or maybe it
00:39:38.180
was cement blocks i don't know exactly what it was that's what they put up for uh the night after
00:39:44.100
after friday's push so what they did was they started at the end of wellington now i always
00:39:49.740
call it the frenchies because they had that that end down there where they're always dancing and
00:39:53.680
and having a good time at the end of wellington street there they took that first and we knew
00:39:58.260
they were going to hit that place first but um so they needed that hotel where they where they
00:40:04.640
stopped and put that fence up i don't know the name of that hotel was right there but they needed
00:40:08.640
to make it that far so that they could get into that hotel and that's they used the horses to get
00:40:14.220
because they couldn't push us it took them all day to go half a block oh not even half a block
00:40:21.080
were they going gently were they were they pushing gently or or what exactly how did it go
00:40:26.140
push and they would do their push and they'd smash you with their batons and we got videos of people
00:40:32.280
hitting you know with the butt ends of guns and and and uh tear gas and horses and no no they
00:40:39.920
weren't uh they weren't they weren't being nice nope no i've seen the videos of the horses and
00:40:44.920
the tear gas and the and the pepper spray and and and whatnot but i mean there were actually
00:40:50.420
people up in their faces weren't there like how did they was right there and so how was that was
00:40:56.680
there conversation going on between the cops and and you guys or was it just like they were staring
00:41:01.860
they're like robots some of them we had conversations with and you can almost see the
00:41:07.920
tears rolling down in their eyes a couple of them dropped their badges and they were arrested on the
00:41:13.300
spot but and some of them they dropped their badges they were arrested on the spot they
00:41:20.020
basically they stepped down i can't do this anymore because everybody was hitting them
00:41:25.020
they were singing oh canada asking if they you know you guys have family and kids at home we're
00:41:30.060
doing this for you it was so much emotion that people were talking to them and they're just
00:41:34.960
standing there and it's like they're scared they don't they don't want to be there to push against
00:41:40.400
us and some of them were in tears some of those officers and they couldn't handle it anymore a
00:41:45.540
couple of them backed away and then that's it they just grabbed them and took them out of there
00:41:48.940
like it took them over eight hours to move a foot and a half and then that's when those horses came
00:41:55.200
out so they can swoop those horses in to grab that that bigger area and start to push on us
00:42:01.840
that's that last little bit they needed so they could have the entrance to that hotel there and
00:42:06.120
that's where they were all going in and out of there i think they stayed there and they'd warm
00:42:09.440
up in there and get food and whatnot and that's where they put that little fence across for uh
00:42:14.620
friday night that's the that's the big ritzy hotel downtown by the uh the byword market i forget what
00:42:21.720
it's called now the chateau laurier chateau laurier is what it is yeah so they have the
00:42:26.880
cops staying there that's where that uh infamous text thread was originated i think from the cops
00:42:33.380
who were there rcmp you guys are aware of that text thread they were talking about uh how great
00:42:38.840
it felt to run over a woman with a horse and beat back the protesters but this is not the story you
00:42:46.660
guys are telling which i find absolutely amazing these cops actually had some heart some of them
00:42:52.800
had to back away from it uh so you guys did the right thing you did push back on them somewhat
00:42:59.560
but it wasn't violently you were talking to them you were telling them we're doing this for you
00:43:05.140
that is absolutely fantastic i would take my live video you know when there was a break and they
00:43:10.540
stopped pushing you could always tell when they were going to come again right and then so there
00:43:14.440
would always be that space in between where you know there were everyone was standing and talking
00:43:19.620
to the cops and i'd walk along with my live video and look them all right in the eyes and you could
00:43:23.960
see the tears and you would say you know what are you going to tell your grandchildren that when
00:43:28.180
they ask you what you did in this point in time you know you're going to tell them you're beating
00:43:32.040
on innocent civilians and stuff like that none of them would really speak they would just stand
00:43:36.460
there like a like a statue but you could sure tell that that a lot of them that they didn't
00:43:41.740
want to be there and it was just breaking their heart to do what they were they had to do to keep
00:43:46.100
their jobs now we know that they imported uh cops from all over the province i think there was some
00:43:52.880
opp there i think there was some rcmp i know there was some uh alberta rcmp i know some manitoba
00:44:00.600
rcmp that went bc as well um did you guys get the impression that there were any other
00:44:08.120
uh law enforcement there from any other country 100 there was a un plane that was spotted at the
00:44:15.780
airport well that was the airport in north bay uh but i what i've heard from several people and i
00:44:23.040
guess they wanted to land that plane as far away from ottawa as they could while still being close
00:44:27.220
enough that they could drive there that's north bay is about four hours from ottawa but a lot of
00:44:31.320
people say those planes land there for maintenance all the time i found that difficult to believe
00:44:35.780
because it's north bay why that airport's not big enough to do maintenance on those planes
00:44:41.640
right okay so you you guys both feel that there was some u.n involvement here ron uh well yeah
00:44:48.900
because a good friend of mine he's been with me since day one he's a uh retired uh master corporal
00:44:56.100
uh you know serving over in afghan and stuff and he knows what a u.n soldier looks like
00:45:00.960
and when you're standing toe to toe to them you know there was a lot of uh veterans there that
00:45:06.040
day and you can tell who's who like those guys had no soul they had like black eyes they wouldn't
00:45:13.620
make a peep they didn't it was almost like they were a statue and when they had the word they
00:45:18.160
would move and they would just grab you by the shoulders and rip you right through the first
00:45:22.640
line right into the second line and like george said that's when they take the ends of the guns
00:45:27.560
and start beating them and then they throw you on the bus and bring you 20 kilometers out of
00:45:32.300
ottawa in the middle of nowhere minus 20 and say get out of here there was no arrest made
00:45:37.980
that's what dave from live from the shed said too he said he got picked up and thrown out a bus and
00:45:43.900
taken 20 kilometers out of town george you were saying yeah i've met quite a few people and talked
00:45:49.340
to quite a few people the same story they threatened them with uh you have to sign this
00:45:54.140
paper that you're not going to come back into ottawa you have to get out of ontario you have
00:45:58.600
to get out of the city blah blah blah and then they're like no i'm not going to sign that so they
00:46:02.500
you know drove them out somewhere dropped them off that's it they just okay so we we've seen
00:46:08.660
video of of that goes back six seven months now and more recently we've been seeing video come
00:46:15.840
out of the netherlands uh farmers protests there um we've seen people pushing back on the cops
00:46:22.840
we've seen in France and Italy and different places in Europe, Australia, even people broke
00:46:29.620
through police lines. Was there ever any threat of that happening in Ottawa? Was there was there
00:46:36.640
at any point a thought of maybe just rushing these guys if they got too violent, like beating
00:46:42.480
you with batons or the pepper spray and the shields and all of that? Was there ever any
00:46:47.380
indication that you guys were going to start pushing back on them and rushing them? Because
00:46:51.500
obviously you did outnumber them i didn't feel that there go ahead no i didn't feel nothing
00:47:00.980
either everybody was just you know we're canadians we're peaceful this is not what we want
00:47:07.280
you know if our leader just came out and spoke to us we wouldn't have been in that big mess but
00:47:12.300
feeling like there was a lot of anger but nobody wanted to to to push against them and try to
00:47:18.220
attacked them even though they were they were attacking you unprovoked i mean that's that's
00:47:23.800
something we have to remember too i mean i understand what their job uh to do was to clear
00:47:28.940
you guys out but you weren't doing anything illegal according to the three lawyers i've spoken to
00:47:34.700
since all of this happened you deserve to be there you have a right to protest as canadian
00:47:39.500
citizens according to the charter of rights and freedoms and they were trying to push you along
00:47:43.500
and they were doing it violently.
00:47:47.580
Yeah, they were doing it violently,
00:47:49.420
but we stood our ground and we took our licks peacefully.
00:47:54.760
And, you know, I was right in the front lines,
00:47:57.160
always screaming, hold the line and let's go, let's go, let's go.
00:48:01.220
And you guys get up here to the front.
00:48:03.680
But we never had any violence.
00:48:06.100
The only violence at all come from them.
00:48:08.540
And we stood our ground and they could beat us down,
00:48:11.840
shoot us with tear gas, beat us with their guns, all that jazz,
00:48:16.540
and we still kept peaceful.
00:48:18.920
So kudos to everybody that was there that put up with all that.
00:48:24.860
Because as soon as you start that violence,
00:48:26.840
as soon as you break through that line, then the shitstorm happens.
00:48:32.480
Yeah.
00:48:32.780
That's Lady Mugick from Trader Park Boys.
00:48:37.020
Now, Ron, this is where you began your channel, your page,
00:48:41.480
ron clark freedom advocate you were sending live streams back to people all across the country
00:48:47.160
during the freedom convoy in ottawa and you've since built up a huge amount of followers on
00:48:53.500
your page uh so congratulations on that and i thank you for continuing to get the word out about that
00:48:58.840
uh since you left how has it been for you personally since you left ottawa
00:49:05.240
uh i'm still trying to grasp some days what it's like uh you know being stopped in a walmart or
00:49:13.360
just randomly people coming up to you like i'm not used to that like i never i never went on
00:49:19.120
this journey to to to have this page or whatever but i feel that i was gifted this page for
00:49:25.000
something good and that's what i'm going to continue to use my page for is to keep uniting
00:49:29.840
people and bringing people together and i'm not going to stop george you had a bit of a different
00:49:36.340
uh a different outcome in ottawa you were arrested now how did all that go down
00:49:42.020
well they just followed my life and when i come back into quebec they arrested me
00:49:47.940
so basically friday night you know just give her uh all day friday with the cops soaking wet tired
00:49:56.780
made it to a friend's hotel room a couple times to dry off a bit have a bite to eat and then head
00:50:01.740
back out but otherwise you know i was right there till till saturday and then i just got so tired
00:50:08.860
i'm like holy man like i gotta i gotta go lay down for a while so i uh i ended up getting out of
00:50:14.860
there and and they were watching me i could see the cops you know they had a couple little groups
00:50:20.000
there and they were pointing at me and and i can tell like oh boy they're after me too right so
00:50:25.300
So I snuck out of there, got back into Quebec, where we were staying across the bridge in Gatineau, which was a smart move.
00:50:34.080
But I woke up, sit up about four hours sleep, and I just sat up and I seen that everybody was still pushing down there.
00:50:41.020
And I just, I ran downstairs and one of the fellas that was staying at the house there, he said, you got to take me back in.
00:50:46.460
I said, there's still people in there.
00:50:48.160
I said, I can't, I can't stay, I can't stay here.
00:50:50.500
and we went across the bridge got on to i think slater street and i had my live going and then
00:50:56.640
an undercover just pulled up beside me looked at me to make sure it was me on my live and
00:51:00.880
that was that that's how they found me did you think that you were just going to be hauled out
00:51:06.720
of ottawa and let go 20 kilometers out of town or did you know it was going to be a little more
00:51:11.620
serious than that well they arrested me for mischief so i figured you know a couple nights
00:51:15.640
in jail or a night or or go take you down to the police station charge you with mischief and let
00:51:20.340
you go kind of thing promise to appear whatever you know definitely was not expecting a three-day
00:51:25.980
bail hearing and getting thrown in jail you know for my first round definitely was not expecting
00:51:31.140
that political prisoner how long were you in there 116 days total so four days short of four months
00:51:40.060
i i can't even believe that they were you were charged with how many charges of mischief was it
00:51:49.340
like one two well excitement at the beginning there was four and and then when they moved me
00:51:55.500
out of ocdc after a month in ocdc there was 10 charges co-accused with pat king and um i believe
00:52:03.000
that was part of the reason they moved me um so all of a sudden they had 10 charges and they were
00:52:07.440
all just mischief type charges just misdemeanor bs none of them held any ground for for uh any
00:52:14.060
serious jail time at all so so you were in jail for that long were you did you have your own cell
00:52:21.580
like what was it like inside for you for that long that must have been terrible uh well ocdc
00:52:27.700
quarantine we did 13 days quarantine when we first got there and pretty much locked up in a cell you
00:52:32.660
got out if you were lucky every couple days every third day once i think i got out for on the fifth
00:52:39.500
day you know for a shower and and 20 minutes and they would just bring your bring your food to you
00:52:44.800
there was two of us in a cell um and that was basically ocdc and then when i got moved uh to
00:52:53.160
quinti uh detention center i was in a dorm setting right with a whole bunch of people so
00:52:57.920
um there was a lot different there it was actually it was actually a blessing to get sent out there
00:53:03.180
with the good food and stuff and it was a lot a lot nicer what was the treatment like from
00:53:08.580
the uh the prison guards were did they treat you poorly were no not me no i was i was okay they
00:53:16.340
didn't none of them treated me bad uh they got a little tired of me screaming freedom and having
00:53:21.600
everybody else rattle the bars in the jail i had i had the whole jail kind of screaming you know
00:53:27.620
the whole pod or whatever slamming doors and screaming freedom so after a while they got a
00:53:32.500
little tired of that but uh other than that i was treated pretty good i had guards come down and
00:53:37.300
shake my hand and stuff and you know they uh a lot of them are just doing their job too you know
00:53:44.900
so I had a lot of support and and lots of nurses and stuff too that were coming and they'd come
00:53:50.740
and bring the the drugs that they bring to all the inmates in there and stuff and they were uh
00:53:55.540
you know saying thank you from behind their mask while they were you know giving me my Tylenol
00:54:00.400
that I needed or something so did they offer you release on certain conditions that you said no to
00:54:06.780
or did they just hold you in there for that long without even a bail hearing uh well i did have my
00:54:13.640
first bail hearing with for and i had fifty thousand dollars of surety and they denied that
00:54:18.460
one and then we went through the and then i got my good lawyer because i you know i didn't expect
00:54:24.380
it to be like that i just thought it was going to be a you know wham bam thing and the way you go
00:54:29.080
back to alberta but then i got my good lawyer and we went through the whole bail hearing thing again
00:54:35.000
but it would be in the higher courts now, not in the lower courts.
00:54:39.720
So you'd have to do it again and you'd have to wait for 30 days and all this stuff.
00:54:44.280
So he went through it and my lawyer, my new lawyer, Jake Chatty, I've used him before.
00:54:49.740
He was like, did you kill somebody?
00:54:52.960
No.
00:54:53.480
Did you run somebody over?
00:54:54.900
No.
00:54:55.500
Did you punch somebody out?
00:54:56.760
No.
00:54:57.100
But he's like, well, what are you doing in there?
00:54:59.560
He couldn't believe it either, right?
00:55:01.000
yeah so i went through the whole bail hearing process with all the affidavits and all that
00:55:06.340
stuff you had to do but then he come up with a plan for me to just plead out to one mischief
00:55:13.080
charge and not have and get out and not have any of these conditions like tamara or pat or
00:55:18.740
you know so so that's throughout i went he's like and so what do you get like you get i want to
00:55:24.300
spend a hundred thousand dollars more on on a trial or would you like to get out you know 30
00:55:29.640
some thousand dollars and go home and not be tied down so you got out with time served is that what
00:55:35.580
the end of it was you betcha in six months to keep the peace so i just have to be careful they don't
00:55:41.560
jump up some criminal charge on me i just i just have to watch out for six months you know i'm still
00:55:46.700
going to rallies and you know i got a ticket at the convoy there for talking on my phone of course
00:55:51.960
ron got pulled over on that one too they're watching guys like us right so but uh yeah i
00:55:58.160
have to keep the peace and you you got a ticket for talking on your phone yeah distracted driving
00:56:05.840
as soon as i picked up my phone they were sitting beside us sitting beside me and they just pulled
00:56:09.940
me over you know there there was probably 200 vehicles behind me and everybody was on their
00:56:14.280
phone doing lives but of course i was the one that got ticketed so you guys both had to uh had to
00:56:20.640
kind of lay low for a bit after that well i know george i mean you were laying low in jail but
00:56:25.000
what about you ron like when you got back did you go i'm going to take a breath here i'm going to
00:56:29.720
just reorganize myself i'm going to get myself back together and then start again or did you
00:56:34.800
just keep going all the way through well how it kind of worked out for me i was on my way home and
00:56:40.020
lo and behold we were in winnipeg and i was doing a live video and uh you know people were asking me
00:56:45.980
ron you know can you come down to the island like vancouver island and then i'm like well i don't
00:56:50.600
know and then somebody comes on and says you're not welcome down here i'm like oh okay so i went
00:56:55.800
and grabbed my passport and i said see this thing i'm welcome anywhere in canada i said now i'm on
00:57:01.100
my way so that's how that's that's pretty much how the wife knew that we were heading there so i got
00:57:06.680
home i was home for a day and a half we packed up in vancouver island we were down there for march
00:57:11.560
5th right and uh we haven't i haven't stopped you know i've been on zoom calls with the victoria
00:57:19.240
a police department the police call me all the time same as the that uh convoy we did on july
00:57:24.640
23rd i had the rcmp helicopter chased me down the highway you know it flew in front of the truck
00:57:30.360
about 150 feet off the ground i just waved out the window as we're driving and then shortly after
00:57:36.440
that i got pulled over i got yanked out and then the cop asked me where we were going i said we're
00:57:41.560
going to the ledge grounds well how many is in your convoy i kind of look back it's a bit of a
00:57:45.740
turn i'm like i don't know 10 20 i said why don't you ask the chopper because i was on a live video
00:57:51.200
at the time and i said because my viewers would really like to know how many people are in this
00:57:55.440
convoy right so i have my license and registration to give him and stuff and he he just takes my
00:58:01.240
license and takes a picture and i told him i said i've already been talking to the edmonton police
00:58:05.800
they just randomly called me a few days prior to just to ask if we can kind of change some of the
00:58:11.620
timing because they had a some roadblocks going on from uh oh what was that a triathlon bike race
00:58:20.080
or something that was going on and they're asking me if i was the organizer i'm like no no it's a
00:58:24.860
grassroots movement you better ask everybody right so i said hey i'll phone the group and
00:58:30.980
see if they want to change the time it was hang up the phone yeah when we get there we're going
00:58:34.900
in that's it right so you you've been all over the place i mean i i see on your lives sometimes
00:58:40.940
you're going out to bc then we're heading out to manitoba which is where you are right now at the
00:58:45.180
center of canada i'm looking right at the sign where george met us on the way through i can see
00:58:50.700
that right now and uh tomorrow yeah tomorrow we have uh we have a uh a pig roast going on the
00:58:57.320
barbecue already showed up today tomorrow morning the pigs will show up we're having a a pig roast
00:59:02.660
uh potluck right here in the center of canada tomorrow for everybody well what time is that
00:59:07.540
starting like noonish it'd be an all-day event all day the pig roast be more later in the afternoon
00:59:13.940
but uh anybody's welcome to come at any time i think it started when you got there didn't it
00:59:19.820
it did it started on monday so this is just kind of a reunion for some of the uh the uh freedom
00:59:27.160
convoy folks and the supporters to come on out and say hello or but yes you say anybody's welcome
00:59:31.620
right anybody everybody's welcome like we're at the we're at the center to sign you know how many
00:59:35.860
people stop by here during the day to take
00:59:37.920
a photo and then they look
00:59:39.940
over like we're like come on over come on over
00:59:42.000
do you want something to drink
00:59:43.880
need something to eat you know hey chit chat with us
00:59:46.040
you know you know you want to really find out
00:59:47.980
who we are have a seat
00:59:49.340
ask questions yeah you know you guys
00:59:51.720
have just given you know instead of just giving
00:59:53.900
us the finger ask us
00:59:55.140
you guys both talk to the police still
00:59:57.900
on a semi regular
00:59:59.960
basis Ron you just pointed that out
01:00:01.620
are the conversations civil
01:00:03.520
are they good or do they still look at you guys as a couple of troublemakers
01:00:07.940
no no no that's the thing like a lot of them are they're on our side but like george said
01:00:12.640
they're just doing their job they understand what's going on i know some of them were forced
01:00:17.820
to take the jab and some of them chose not to and they're no longer with the force
01:00:23.120
but uh most of them they understand what we're doing and they you know they just kind of i even
01:00:29.620
i was even driving through saskatchewan and we had about eight of us because we were on our way
01:00:34.100
home from from camp hope and uh i see the rp see rcmp roll up beside me and i i just look over and
01:00:41.380
he's just like i'm like oh cool i got a thumbs up cool we're not getting pulled over today boys
01:00:47.220
being there there's a lot of them on our side what about you george they know who we are and
01:00:53.340
they know what we're about too you know before we left atkinson i was all painted up in my
01:00:58.720
my Braveheart paint there and and two cops showed up and right they seen me and came straight to me
01:01:04.540
and you know you're the organizer I said nope not an organizer there's no organizers here
01:01:09.600
well uh who's in charge I said we're all in charge so well we're you know anybody who has uh the
01:01:16.700
roadmap and I said yeah I know a couple people that have a roadmap I could take you over to them
01:01:20.580
and I took them over to the people that had had our route and and I just introduced them to them
01:01:25.460
as non-organizers and i walked away so you know they they're they'll they'll come at us
01:01:32.480
and and kind of poke our poke our buttons too just like pulling us over uh you know to just
01:01:39.240
make an example out of us as well trying to you know scare us and deter us away from what we want
01:01:45.320
to do but i don't know i don't i don't see any real aggression from any of the ones you know
01:01:51.120
since we've left Ottawa anyways.
01:01:53.320
How do you guys see this going forward?
01:01:55.760
What needs to happen next?
01:01:57.300
I mean, I've got an idea,
01:01:59.020
but I want to hear what you guys have to say.
01:02:01.240
Ron?
01:02:03.660
Well,
01:02:05.060
that's one of those questions.
01:02:09.300
I know what I'd like to see.
01:02:10.560
I'd like to see Trudeau would take Christine Freeland
01:02:12.800
and Jagmeet Singh and just piss off somewhere,
01:02:15.680
but it's still going to leave a big mess behind
01:02:18.540
with the rest of the people, right?
01:02:20.020
But yeah.
01:02:21.120
Just leave the people alone.
01:02:23.580
Stop forcing us to do stuff against our will.
01:02:25.820
Stop creating chaos.
01:02:28.380
Stop trying to take things away from the farmers.
01:02:31.200
They're the ones that are creating the chaos around here.
01:02:35.320
It's all global elites.
01:02:37.140
It's all about power, greed.
01:02:39.980
There should be no people sitting there with hundreds of billions of dollars in your bank
01:02:44.180
when people are sitting there starving.
01:02:46.740
And you're giving money to all these other countries when you've got homeless people everywhere.
01:02:50.400
And then you're passing laws that you can walk the street with fentanyl and crack cocaine and meth.
01:02:56.380
Like, you're making people depend on you guys.
01:03:02.740
You're making homeless people.
01:03:04.860
You know, the price of everything goes up, but the wages don't move.
01:03:08.520
You know, I'm just tired of them forcing people to do stuff.
01:03:12.720
Do you see the mandates coming back, guys?
01:03:14.560
Do you see that happening this fall?
01:03:17.460
100%.
01:03:17.820
They're going to try.
01:03:19.440
right yeah exactly they can try but they're gonna try look at ontario they're already saying you
01:03:26.340
have to be fully vaccinated to come back to university the university of toronto that's
01:03:30.740
right now the definition of vaccination is changing also uh according to the federal
01:03:36.540
government now instead of saying fully vaccinated you'll be are you up to date right so i can well
01:03:42.160
how many shots is up to date well as many as they say as many as they say that's the thing one every
01:03:47.920
nine months is is what we hear now so how long are the people of canada going to put up with
01:03:52.860
this nonsense i think until until everyone is affected i think until everyone stands up
01:04:03.260
and unifies you know i just i don't see anything really changing like we're going to keep doing
01:04:12.100
what we're doing and we're going to keep waking people up and we're going to keep talking to
01:04:15.480
people and helping people and that's not going to change but in order to stop this everybody needs
01:04:21.740
to be affected by it one way or another so like it's got to get worse before it gets better
01:04:27.260
that's i think that's just the cold hard truth of it like people are just not going to be able
01:04:33.480
to go to the grocery store and get their stuff they're not going to be able to go to the mall
01:04:36.780
and get their fancy purse or boots or whatever you know like whatever it is that that changes
01:04:41.880
their mind and gets them to go like what's going on here right then i'm gonna get worse before it
01:04:49.180
gets better i even thought going door to door and just asking people what would it take for
01:04:55.120
you to lose before you'd stand up for your rights and freedoms because i'll snatch it from you right
01:04:59.120
now but we can't do that let's speed this up right but but that's the thing our problem right now is
01:05:07.240
we still have too much food on the shelves yeah yeah the gas prices are a little high
01:05:11.380
you know people are struggling but they're not completely yet there's still people with money
01:05:16.640
in their bank still enjoying life on they're all on vacations they're all camping right now
01:05:21.200
this fall is going to set us apart from a lot of things yeah that's what i think too and you know
01:05:27.380
it's interesting uh i have a friend in town who is a funeral director and uh they're going all
01:05:33.640
over town all the time to pick up, you know, uh, bodies. And today, uh, what they had to go to a
01:05:40.160
long-term care facility to get somebody. And the girl at the front desk said, show me your vaccine
01:05:46.360
card. I said, what, what are you talking about? We don't do that anymore. Nope. No, I need to see
01:05:51.640
your vaccine card. And so then he called me, you know, after this whole thing happened, he's coming
01:05:56.040
back shadow. It's coming back. I said, well, you know what, Mike, I think what you got there, buddy
01:05:59.480
is probably one overzealous Branch Covidian who is trying to make herself look good because she
01:06:08.520
does not speak for the government. However, it could also be a sign that maybe this is starting
01:06:13.800
slowly all over again. Right now, they're giving us a break. And this is what we've been saying
01:06:19.860
since maybe June. They're giving us a break. They've raised the mandates, the masks, the social
01:06:25.740
distancing the lockdowns all that stuff but when the eighth wave hits us in october oh what happened
01:06:31.700
to the sixth one well just a wave somewhere didn't we it depends on we were in a sixth one and now
01:06:38.720
we're in a seventh see what happens though guys is they give us this freedom in the summertime
01:06:43.500
because if we had a convoy in the summertime they would never have shut us down right so they're
01:06:49.000
gonna go every summer we're gonna get get this back and every winter they're gonna hit us again
01:06:53.720
i think ontario's in the seventh wave right now but manitoba saskatchewan alberta i think we're
01:06:59.260
only in the fifth wave or maybe between waves i i don't know it depends where you are geographically
01:07:04.260
guys thanks for the way the way i see things is ontario ontario's population is pretty much
01:07:10.380
half of canada right yeah yeah so they keep implementing everything in that province now
01:07:16.380
if they can implement things in that province and get away with it the rest is just going to
01:07:20.780
trickle right through this place and until you're going to hit some of these provinces like come on
01:07:26.200
over to manitoba saskatchewan alberta we're going to stop you dead in your tracks right there
01:07:30.600
yeah come on over yeah good luck come and try it come and join us in alberta anytime
01:07:37.540
yeah i'm not going to my door and tell me i have to get jabbed i want to hear a big freedom from
01:07:43.020
you george let's let's hear it let's go let's go let's go all right guys thanks for coming on
01:07:51.060
tonight i appreciate it george i wish you could wish you could come to the big pig roast tomorrow
01:07:54.920
at the center of canada maybe next time my friend thanks for coming on tonight george i got a i got
01:08:00.220
an awesome gift for you that was given to me uh from a very not lovely lady that stopped by here
01:08:06.480
and I got one for Tamara too.
01:08:08.040
So I got something for you.
01:08:10.360
All right, cool.
01:08:11.600
Thanks, guys.
01:08:12.860
Thanks, Ron, for coming on.
01:08:13.980
We'll see you tomorrow at the Center of Canada
01:08:15.580
for the Big Pig Roast.
01:08:16.720
You bet.
01:08:17.160
I'll see you tomorrow, Shadow.
01:08:18.020
Thanks for having me on, buddy.
01:08:19.420
Okay, brother, we'll talk to you again.
01:08:20.820
There's Ron Clark and Freedom George, guys,
01:08:23.340
from the Freedom Convoy back in January,
01:08:26.880
telling their stories, their recollections,
01:08:29.020
and about what yet may come.
01:08:33.360
I want to share one thing with you,
01:08:35.100
one story before we leave here it has to do with the uh with the freedom convoy it comes from the
01:08:41.880
left-wing corporate taxpayer funded cbc where they say police still investigating officers donations
01:08:50.480
to the freedom convoy fundraiser and look at look at this part here where did donations come
01:08:57.220
following the declaration of the protest as being illegal well that was never officially
01:09:04.620
declared the government tried to say it but there is no official declaration that the freedom convoy
01:09:11.540
was ever illegal and the reason for that is they can't call it illegal they know it isn't they can
01:09:17.440
try but we know better than that that would have to go through the supreme court of canada before
01:09:25.560
that could ever be declared and it hasn't police forces in ontario say they're continuing to
01:09:31.640
investigate members donating to the freedom convoy six months after committing to do so in
01:09:37.720
march cbc news matched at least two dozen current and former members of police forces in the
01:09:44.160
province with a publicly leaked list of names identified as apparent donors to crowdfunding
01:09:49.620
site give send go so if it's not illegal and it hasn't been declared illegal because it's not
01:09:57.720
why is it a problem for anybody including a peace officer of any service in the country to give
01:10:09.220
this was a legal protest it may have broken some bylaws along the way oh you can't honk your horns
01:10:17.680
after a certain time at night okay okay so after nine o'clock we won't honk anymore i believe a
01:10:22.820
judge ruled on that. People followed suit. No big deal. But this was a protest. And according to
01:10:29.620
the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, if it even matters at all anymore, we have the right to
01:10:35.780
protest. If we don't agree with the actions of government, we have a right to protest. And
01:10:42.760
that's what that was. So when they call it illegal, do not believe it. Because it's not. Never was.
01:10:49.600
there's one more story here that has nothing to do with what we were talking about tonight but i
01:10:56.540
thought i'd throw it out there because it just goes to show you that they're still trying to
01:11:03.620
cling to this narrative here thousands of jab teenage girls are developing ticks doctors are
01:11:12.180
baffled. I don't know what that could be. In this story, which, by the way, comes from
01:11:19.500
newspunch.com, they suggest it's from prolonged lockdown. Loneliness.
01:11:29.580
Never mind the possible effect of an experimental formula that billions of people have had forced
01:11:36.000
on them in the last year and a half. That couldn't be it, could it? No. Must be from a lockdown.
01:11:41.320
prolonged time spent alone it's amazing the good news is that even though our rates of
01:11:55.740
being jabbed are still higher than the united states the united states 30 percent of people
01:12:02.780
have had three shots now the rest of them whatever 40 percent of people in the united
01:12:09.240
States never took one. And again, our rates are higher here in Canada, but only 42% of people
01:12:15.280
in this province, in the province of Manitoba, have gone for that third shot. Never mind a fourth
01:12:22.340
shot. So that's good news that people, I think, are waking up. If you consider and believe the
01:12:29.600
government's initial numbers that 81% of people had gotten two shots, and that was based upon
01:12:34.700
coercion loss of job uh maybe even loss of family right so now only 42 so that number
01:12:41.200
that 81 has been cut pretty much in half so let's see what happens when they try to bring
01:12:48.740
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half years ken has got an idea and we're going to find out what that is he's got several updates
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for us as well so ken is going to join the show at some point next week uh and i do have some
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other guests i'm lining up right now uh because they're interesting and cool people so that's it
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for the show tonight i hope you guys have a fantastic weekend i will catch you again monday
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night at eight o'clock central for another shadow at night live stream perhaps a live stream from
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the center of canada tomorrow for the freedom pig roast
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i love you all and i will talk to you again very soon bye for now
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