00:02:30.000hello everybody welcome to shadow at night
00:02:58.720it's monday october 3rd 2022 tyson hawkley young up-and-coming journalist and live streamer joins
00:03:04.320the show tonight from his home his home studio on vancouver island i'm really excited about
00:03:09.500chatting with tyson and he'll be on the show in just a few minutes hello to eddie watching from
00:03:14.680stonewall hello gabby from winnipeg sandra d from west kildonan that's in winnipeg for those of you
00:03:21.180who are not here and don't know what west kildonan is what the hell is west kildonan it's a part of
00:03:26.520town in Winnipeg. Hello, Maya. Watching from the Beaux-Ajure area. Hello, Dorothy in Fernridge,
00:03:31.980British Columbia. Hello, David. Watching from the Caribbean. Hello, Brian from North Bay. Tommy is
00:03:38.320watching from north of Russell, Manitoba. Deborah from Abbotsford. Rosie is watching tonight. Jim
00:03:44.340is watching from Niagara Falls. Hello, Lulu. Hello, Terry. Watching from Prince Edward Island.
00:03:49.160Natasha is watching from New Brunswick. Azizi watching from London, Ontario. Randy is watching
00:03:54.360from kleefeld lynn hello how are you yes there was excitement at the legislature in winnipeg today
00:04:00.520i'll get to that in just a second marty is watching from kitchener hello ron hello sue from peace
00:04:05.940river alberta hello jackie from ottawa sandra's watching from parry sound rosie again
00:04:11.400i don't like it when i say hello to somebody twice that means i'm missing somebody that means
00:04:19.160i'm skipping over somebody hello bill watching from brutterheim roberta watching from monkton
00:04:24.220new brunswick trent is watching from gunton al from london chiclet mcdowell from calgary
00:04:29.960lease is watching from shoal lake bren is watching from cambridge pam from kenora kenneth from oak
00:04:35.940bank joanie from sandy lands manitoba thank you all for being here on the show tonight let's start
00:04:43.900with this this is a pretty big story the legislature in manitoba was um well you can't say
00:04:50.860raided, but there was a line of a significant line of police officers waiting for the First
00:04:58.560Nations people as they were trying to build a third teepee on the legislative ground. So here's
00:05:03.420the story from left-wing corporate CTV. Winnipeg police stopped an attempt by protesters today to
00:05:09.200enlarge an encampment that's been on the front lawn of the ledge for months, while the provincial
00:05:13.680government confirmed that some people attached to the camp have been recently arrested. The
00:05:19.940encampment was set up in spring has been adorned with signs and flags highlighting a variety of
00:05:24.960issues from the unmarked graves at residential schools. By the way, I don't go along with that
00:05:31.580narrative until I actually see physical evidence that there are bodies in those supposed graves.
00:05:39.520And so far, there has not been an investigation at all, just the sonar equipment they've used
00:05:45.020to say they've discovered bodies but without physical evidence you can't say that what's
00:05:52.200down there is actually bodies you can't so i have a and i'm not saying that there isn't
00:05:59.780all i'm saying is i would like to see some physical proof of that they were also protesting
00:06:05.580covid restrictions and the conflict in the middle east for some reason originally there was one tp
00:06:10.640A second was added in the summer. The protests had planned to build a third today and put out a call on social media for supporters to help them build a new lodge.
00:06:20.100When they arrived at the front entrance to the ledge, they were met by a line of more than two dozen police officers.
00:06:25.940Police vehicles, including two wagons, each capable of carrying several people, were parked nearby.
00:06:31.920So a couple of quotes from the protesters.
00:06:34.580All you cops should go home and study the law. Go home to your families. Go home to your children, said another.
00:06:39.740Two people were seen being led away from the area near the encampment by police.
00:06:43.560The Winnipeg Police Service would not comment on whether any arrests were made,
00:06:47.580but Justice Minister Kelvin Gertsen said there have been arrests recently.
00:06:51.540They went on to say that some people were observed in possession of weapons,
00:06:55.920body armor, and military-style clothing.
00:06:59.880Public safety concerns prompted some arrests over the past two weeks.
00:07:03.800Now, look, I may not agree with everything that the First Nations folks who've been on the ledge for six months or longer were protesting.
00:07:13.940But I do believe in their right to do so, especially on public grounds.
00:07:19.240If they weren't threatening people, apparently there was several instances.
00:07:24.020Again, I've been down there a few times.
00:07:25.900I've spoken to some of those people and I have never seen any sign of aggression whatsoever.
00:07:29.840I've listened to, you know, drums being pounded. I've watched dances that have been actually very impressive. People enjoying themselves. Also, people sticking to their guns, so to speak, not literally.
00:07:46.380i've never seen any sign of aggression i've never seen any sign of any sort of weapons
00:07:52.260military equipment body armor military style clothing never never anything like that so
00:07:59.480until i do i'm not going to believe a word that comes from the government i think this was just
00:08:07.520a nuisance more than anything else they also said some of the protesters were threatening
00:08:12.640uttering threats to staff and tourists over the past few months and once again i would like to
00:08:18.820see proof of that but what they're trying to do is disband that protest that's been going on
00:08:25.180because the manitoba government did pass a law back in the springtime that's the thing about
00:08:30.140governments right if they don't like something they can just pass a law and say well now it's
00:08:33.340against the law so you guys are sol sorry about that but i believe in their right to protest and
00:08:41.880be there to do that and they should absolutely be allowed to stay and they should actually be
00:08:48.240allowed to have a dialogue with the government of manitoba you see this is the thing right
00:08:52.540politicians become stubborn because they feel as though at least in my experience because i've
00:08:58.140spoken to many of them and they're not all like this but many of them are they feel as though
00:09:02.200they're above the people they're serving which is a bad mistake that happens from the enclave
00:09:08.620that politicians have with each other right they spend time with each other they go to barbecues
00:09:15.100together they have a lot of social time together and they feel as though their jobs are about the
00:09:21.400party that they're members of as opposed to the people they're serving and there's politics within
00:09:26.200politics and that's just not the case and they need to be reminded of that fairly frequently
00:09:31.700or else this is what happens they start passing laws against their own people what they're doing
00:09:37.880what the First Nations are doing on the grounds of the legislature, in my opinion, as long as
00:09:43.260they remain peaceful, is well within the rights afforded to people within the Charter of Rights
00:09:48.560and Freedoms in our country. And what the Manitoba government did today, I believe, is unlawful.
00:09:54.960And what the police did today, I believe, was unlawful. And in a situation where you've got
00:10:02.280law enforcement breaking the law and this is arguable that's when you've got a country
00:10:08.940that's falling apart and that's a sad thing how far is it going to get is my question
00:10:18.940how far is it going to get before we can all finally start come coming back together it's uh
00:10:27.140we've seen signs of signs of it over the years but it seems to be getting worse and worse and
00:10:34.960worse and worse all right let's get to our guest tonight Tyson Hockley from his home studio
00:10:38.860on Vancouver Island Tyson are you in Victoria or outside of it where are you exactly yeah I'm in
00:10:44.640Victoria well welcome to the show now you've been doing this live streaming thing on YouTube for
00:10:50.480quite some time I think you've got pretty close to 10,000 followers which is quite an accomplishment
00:10:54.760congratulations thank you and yeah I've been doing YouTube for about three years now started back
00:11:01.340during the pandemic 2020 I think I'm around 9,400 something and I mean it was because of the
00:11:10.840pandemic which gave me the opportunity to really start YouTube it was always something that I kind
00:11:15.400of wanted to do always something that I thought about starting like why not give this a try
00:11:19.580and it was really it took for the pandemic to take a lot of things away from me that I enjoyed doing
00:11:25.540it took that uh to give me the opportunity to really start YouTube and um well here I am now
00:11:32.380so what have you mostly been covering has it been COVID stuff or has it been a little bit of
00:11:36.800everything uh so I originally started off my YouTube channel actually just doing silly stuff
00:11:41.320um I was only 12 back then I did one video I did a 24-hour challenge on my roof uh so just really
00:11:47.920silly stuff, right? I did a video where I called the barred owl with a speaker. That was one of my
00:11:54.760more viewed videos. But when the Freedom Convoy started up, I saw stuff on the news that there's
00:12:01.600going to be a protest in Victoria. And I'm like, okay, this is interesting. This should be something
00:12:06.840that maybe I could go on live stream and cover. So I went down to the legislature in Victoria,
00:12:12.140I wasn't really expecting to see much.
00:12:14.180I was thinking maybe there'd be 30 people, maybe 50.
00:12:18.600I get to the legislature in Victoria and there is 10,000 people there.
00:22:16.860Okay. So what was, like, when the Freedom Convoy was going on, this is when you first really amped up your YouTube channel and now your Facebook presence as well. Was that talked about a lot in school? That seems to me would have been a big topic, not just among students, but also teachers. Like, would they bring that into class?
00:22:36.480no actually it's weird they haven't mentioned the freedom convoy at all they don't really talk about
00:22:41.420i don't know i feel like in school they don't really talk about the issues that are most
00:22:45.420important you know i feel like a lot of the stuff that they talk about in school
00:22:48.400is stuff that's kind of irrelevant to the bigger picture and not all of it of course
00:22:54.420um but no they haven't mentioned anything about the freedom convoy which is surprising because
00:22:59.080i thought that i'd have a teacher like go off on their own rant about it but no nothing so far
00:23:04.740Have you had a chance to interview anybody in the freedom movement or any big political figures across the country in the last little while?
00:23:13.480Yeah. So I actually got the chance to talk with Mr. Brian Peckford. He helped write the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
00:23:20.840He was speaking at a rally in Victoria, and I actually got the chance to pull him aside and give him a quick little interview.
00:23:26.580So that was a pleasure to be able to talk to him. And I mean, big thanks to him for taking the time to talk with me.
00:57:50.000So we took that, happy or proud to be a part of,
00:57:53.520you know, fringe minority with unacceptable views.
00:57:56.140and we took it to two different places that do t-shirts around town here and they said no sorry
00:58:00.500we're not doing that why not you don't want our money no i'm sorry it's a political statement
00:58:07.360your name is not on the shirt this is on the shirt why do you not want our money
00:58:13.440and there's a lot of businesses out there making bad business decisions based upon this ideology
00:58:21.020and we've been talking about this for a while uh many conservative political commentators in the
00:58:27.840united states especially have been talking about this for a while the alternate economy right
00:58:33.220the only question is what's that going to be what does that look like in the future is it gold and
00:58:39.200silver i would say yes because what we're going to have i think in the future is digital currency
00:58:45.880that will be within the matrix and outside of the matrix everything will be coins probably silver
00:58:52.300coins i think it's not going to be gold bars because that's going to be okay i'm going to
00:58:56.080buy a jersey milk and a pack of smokes here's one gold bar nope that's a little bit too much
00:59:02.660and how do you make change for that but that system will probably start developing as the
00:59:08.060digital system starts to develop the cashless economy that's how it's going to look people
00:59:14.980have asked me okay so what if i have two million dollars in the bank how is that going to transfer
00:59:21.140well it wouldn't transfer into the uh gold and silver unless you do that yourself
00:59:26.820and i don't know how it would transfer in terms of new digital dollars if it would be worth the
00:59:32.820same thing if you're still going to have two million or if it's going to be uh two dollars
00:59:37.220on the credit or how that's going to go but something is going to happen like the financial
00:59:42.500system right now worldwide is very shaky, at least in the Western world. I mean, you know what
00:59:47.540happened in the UK with the Bank of England last week, and people are wondering, hmm, how long is
00:59:52.640it going to be before it happens over here in the United States and Canada? We do know that the stock
00:59:57.220markets today held a pretty big rally and gained back a lot of what they lost last week, but a lot
01:00:01.960of pundits are saying, this is temporary, man. I mean, it's going down. There's nothing we can do
01:00:06.340to stop it. Stagflation is a thing. Anyway, I want to leave you guys with the words of Brian
01:00:13.080Peckford in an editorial piece he wrote last week as his court case was going on in British Columbia.
01:00:27.860FCPP.org is where you can find this from Brian Peckford. As I tried to sleep last night,
01:00:35.460the words of the lawyers and the judge in my lawsuit kept swirling around in my mind.
01:00:40.440The judge's attitude seemed almost like they were debating the validity of a dog license.
01:00:45.400And recalling the words of my lawyer's interviews some hours earlier about the case, reading the
01:00:50.160judgments just brought down by Judge Hinkson in British Columbia in the case brought by Victoria
01:00:55.380lawyer Jeremy Maddock, recalling the judgments I read of earlier constitutional cases in Manitoba
01:01:01.620and British Columbia and Ontario, recalling the denigrating views expressed about certain
01:01:07.160citizens of our country by our Prime Minister and Chief Judge. I realize now that we have lost
01:01:15.180the ability to distinguish between a simple commodity for trade and the values and principles
01:01:19.760that are meant to bind a country together. A constitution is not a trade agreement. We're not
01:01:25.580talking milk and egg quotas, a lumber deal between the U.S. and Canada, a monetary policy of interest
01:01:31.160rates and inflation, debts and deficits, GDP and trade imbalances, and all of the horse trading
01:01:36.400that's embedded in all of this. When Socrates stood before the Athenian jury millennium ago,
01:01:42.000around 590 BC, he knew the jig was up. Freedom, liberty, free speech would be traded away.
01:01:49.240It was too dangerous for the power elite. Cicero knew he was fighting a losing battle in the Senate
01:01:54.640with the authoritarians of his day, and he fought for the rights of the Sicilians. Socrates knew he
01:02:00.920would have to take the poison. When I was in Ottawa this year with the courageous truckers,
01:02:07.840the cloud hung over the multitude. The power elite would not negotiate, and the Emergencies Act
01:02:13.540followed. The power elite were scared their power was crumbling. Defending freedom, like Socrates,
01:02:19.980must be stopped. Even the terms of reference assessing the Emergencies Act validity is to
01:02:25.720be determined by the government who imposed the act. When I, along with others, began a lawsuit
01:02:31.300through the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom seeking to protect our constitutional
01:02:35.280right of mobility, who would have thought that this so-called expedited process would still be
01:02:41.540ongoing and that our federal government would be attempting to block the case from even being heard?
01:02:47.460Using legal tricks, especially relevant description in this case of freedom and rights,
01:02:51.400constitutional protected rights and freedoms, one would have thought such a ploy, should I say
01:02:56.840play, wound never even being considered or entertained. One would have thought the
01:03:02.220government would want constitutional validity of what they were doing. We've lost our moral
01:03:07.780compass and have allowed principles and values to become commodities, tradable even by the courts.
01:03:14.380Mootness must now be negotiated before we know whether we have any right of mobility under
01:03:19.020Section 6 of the Charter. Judge Hinkson measures whether enough liberty has been taken away
01:03:24.220to infringe upon the value principled of life, liberty, and security of the person in our
01:03:28.980Charter, our Constitution. A judge in Manitoba just believed the state's narrative in the face
01:03:34.420of credible, independent evidence. Your Honor, I understood your role was to protect freedom,
01:03:41.340not limit it. I thought that the onus was on those trying to limit it to prove this.
01:03:46.700Yet we see you taking upon yourselves to determine the limits of personal liberty, all based upon a circumstance that was and is unscientific by an objective measure.
01:03:57.980Jeremy Maddock, who took the case of liberty to the B.C. Supreme Court, says about the decision limiting his freedom.
01:04:04.760If this precedent stands, the government can make your life as inconvenient or unpleasant or uncomfortable as it wants without infringing your rights to liberty.
01:04:14.840I remember the King James version of the Bible