The Shadoe Davis Show - May 19, 2023


Shadoe at Nite Thurs May 18th⧸2023 w⧸People's Party leader Maxime Bernier


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00:03:30.000 hey everybody how you doing and welcome to shadow at night this is thursday
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00:04:02.880 foreseeable future i want to say hello to everybody watching tonight on facebook on rumble on twitter
00:04:09.060 and on lgm.news that's looking glass media lgm.news special guest on the show tonight none other than
00:04:16.580 maxime bernier the leader of the people's party of canada and we'll bring him on in just a couple
00:04:21.880 of minutes we have a wide array of topics to discuss with mad max tonight the show is brought
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00:04:36.180 mickey from iroquois falls ontario hello deborah watching and somewhere in the inner lake in
00:04:41.740 manitoba jj is watching in waterton park alberta snotly fuming and crying just like skippy oh the
00:04:50.580 uh the alberta leaders debate was tonight i wonder how that went jim is watching hello jim hello barb
00:04:56.780 from Stony Mountain. Rick is watching in Dowling, Ontario. Hello, Cheryl. Hello, Teresa from
00:05:02.680 Alexandria, Ontario. Lisa's watching in The Hammer. Harry's in Steinbeck. Hello, Harry.
00:05:07.760 Heather is watching tonight from Edmonton. Darlene in New Brunswick. Steve in Selkirk.
00:05:12.500 Judy is watching. Hello, Tammy in Chilliwack. Mireille is watching in Lacombe. Linda in
00:05:16.960 Medicine Hat. Lisa doesn't say here. Remedy Max. Hello. How are you in Toronto? Fred is
00:05:23.400 watching in Nova Scotia. Roberta's in Moncton, New Brunswick. Eddie is watching. Thank you for
00:05:28.960 the compliments. Excellent intro. Yurji is watching tonight. Cheryl, hello from Alberta. Candice
00:05:34.180 is in Chilliwack. Over to Rumble we go. I love the Rumble handles. McGeehan's watching in Lower
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00:06:42.560 I'm going to get into this story, you guys, before we bring Max on the show tonight.
00:06:47.020 This and the reason for that is this is a brand new story hot off the presses.
00:06:52.180 It was released about an hour ago in the National Post.
00:06:55.680 Groups suspected of hosting Chinese police station received up to two thousand dollars in federal funding.
00:07:05.060 Experts say the funding may have helped legitimize the Montreal-based charity suspected of supporting efforts to silence critics of China's regime.
00:07:15.200 And, of course, we know that China's been interfering in Canadian politics for at least the last 30 years, maybe more, according to this ex-CESIS agent who was testifying in committee last week.
00:07:27.800 He says it goes back all the way to Brian Mulroney.
00:07:30.520 intelligence officials told mps thursday last thursday that foreign interference is a long
00:07:37.940 standing problem crossing governments and decades and only growing in nature this from michelle
00:07:44.300 you know casoya he is a former senior official with the canadian security intelligence service
00:07:49.760 said china has been asserting influence in canada since at least the 1980s and every government
00:07:56.920 since Brian Mulroney's, back in the early 1990s, has simply ignored the advice of CSIS.
00:08:05.060 Welcome, Maxime Bernier, on the show.
00:08:07.520 Thank you for coming on the show tonight, Max.
00:08:09.620 Really appreciate it.
00:08:10.480 I want to talk about your run for office in this by-election in the next couple of minutes,
00:08:17.100 but I do have to ask you right off the top of this.
00:08:20.320 You were a minister in Stephen Harper's government for, I believe it was four years.
00:08:24.940 You were the Foreign Affairs Minister in 2007-2008.
00:08:29.380 Were you aware of any of this Chinese interference?
00:08:33.120 And if you were, why didn't you say anything?
00:08:36.220 Yes, thank you for asking.
00:08:37.960 No, I was not.
00:08:39.160 I was a minister with the Harper government for six years.
00:08:43.360 And you're right.
00:08:44.200 I was a Foreign Affairs Minister for one year.
00:08:49.120 And that was not a discussion.
00:08:51.620 I didn't have any discussion with Prime Minister Harper.
00:08:54.940 or with CSIS at that time.
00:08:57.720 Maybe the minister in charge of CSIS, our secret service,
00:09:03.500 maybe knew something at that time.
00:09:06.240 But me as the foreign affairs minister, I was not aware of that.
00:09:09.820 And actually, I can tell you that usually around the cabinet table,
00:09:15.000 you have discussion.
00:09:16.540 But the discussion that we always had around the cabinet table
00:09:19.860 was in line with bills and legislation
00:09:24.600 that the government tabled in the House,
00:09:28.620 but we never had a discussion about the Chinese influence.
00:09:32.080 Actually, not with me.
00:09:33.420 Maybe the prime minister had this discussion with CISIS
00:09:36.300 and with his minister in charge of CISIS,
00:09:39.140 the secret services.
00:09:41.500 But no, for me, it was new when I saw that in the news.
00:09:45.680 Because like Trudeau said, Trudeau said it was new for him, but we know that it was a lie. He was brief about that. And usually that kind of information, top secret information, is between Sissi's and the prime minister's office.
00:10:03.200 let me ask you how sequestered the prime minister's office is from the rest of his or her caucus and
00:10:11.420 cabinet i mean are there things that only the prime minister is made uh aware of uh does he
00:10:18.020 discuss with ministers uh does he have favorites i mean i guess it depends on the prime minister but
00:10:23.420 what was it like in your situation with stephen harper did he rely on you for certain things
00:10:28.100 yeah people believe that because you're a minister you must know everything but i'll just give you
00:10:35.300 an example you know every year the government is tabling their budget and the information is the
00:10:43.620 budget is secret and you know i can tell you that if you're a member of parliament and you're not
00:10:50.420 part of the government and you're not part of the cabinet you won't know the budget you will know
00:10:56.700 the budget only two hours the same day that the budget will be tabled. You may have the discussion
00:11:03.860 on the budget, about the budget in caucus, but it will be just to listen what our MPs will want
00:11:11.640 in the budget, but you will never know what will be the content of the budget as an MP in the
00:11:19.820 in the party that is governing the country.
00:11:24.100 And for a minister, we were able to know the content of the budget
00:11:29.340 the day before the budget.
00:11:32.040 So, you know, and that was, and I believe that it's still the same
00:11:37.040 with the Trudeau government.
00:11:39.080 So answering your question, yes, the PMO, the prime minister office
00:11:43.820 is very powerful.
00:11:46.500 And I'll give you another example.
00:11:49.320 I was industry minister and I wanted to do a reform and deregulation, the telecom industry in 2006, 2007, because I believe in free markets, more competition, lower prices for consumers.
00:12:03.900 and I was able to convince my colleagues, other ministers, around the table.
00:12:11.800 But because of the private council, because of the civil servant working with the prime minister's office,
00:12:21.760 they didn't want me to table that reform.
00:12:24.600 And it was very difficult to have a discussion in cabinet.
00:12:27.880 They didn't want to put my reform on the agenda of the cabinet.
00:12:32.900 I had to have a special meeting with the prime minister and asking him that I must have the discussion at the cabinet.
00:12:40.960 I'm ready for that. And I was successful, but it was very difficult.
00:12:45.840 So what I'm telling you, the prime minister office controls a lot.
00:12:50.860 And actually, it's the prime minister of Canada has more power than the president of the United States.
00:12:57.740 The prime minister controlled the executive, so the cabinet.
00:13:02.780 He controls also the legislative because, you know, you as a minister, you receive your orders from the prime minister.
00:13:13.120 And if you don't do what he likes, you will lose your job and you will appoint another MP as a minister.
00:13:20.660 So the prime minister is very, very powerful.
00:13:24.120 And we can see that right now with Justin Trudeau.
00:13:27.000 But that was the same under Harper. So that's the way our democracy is functioning here in Canada. And I think the prime minister's office has too many, too much power.
00:13:41.540 What can we do to reform this?
00:13:43.400 i believe that we must have a real discussion in parliament we don't have any real discussion
00:13:50.380 in parliament right now you know we have the party line and if an mp wants to raise something
00:13:58.180 and the prime minister office didn't want he won't be able to do that and maybe the mp won't do that
00:14:05.100 because he would want to be a minister a day and he he will want to please the prime minister
00:14:11.080 So we need to, that party line, we need to have more free vote in parliament and MPs must be free to express their point of view.
00:14:20.840 You know, I'll give you an example in the writing here in Lisgar Portage, Portage Lisgar, when I'm running.
00:14:30.580 You know, I said yesterday that if I'm elected, I will table a bill on abortion to protect the on-born babies and against late-term abortion.
00:14:43.120 But my opponent, he can say what he wants about that here in the writing in Portage Lisgar.
00:14:49.880 But when he'll be in Ottawa, because Pierre Poliev said that he doesn't want to reopen the debate. He won't have any legislation on abortion. So he won't be able to do anything. And that's because it's the party line.
00:15:10.620 So if people in Portage, Lisgar want to have a discussion about abortion, they must elect me and I'll start that discussion.
00:15:21.080 And that's why I said for us at the People's Party, we have candidates across the country during the general election.
00:15:28.660 That would be the same thing at the next general election, but we'll have more free vote.
00:15:32.860 I will ask our candidates elected to support our platform and vote for our platform because, you know, they are candidates and they're believing in our ideas and speaking about it.
00:15:44.980 But after that, if something is not on our platform, there's a lot of other issues, they will be able to vote like they want or like their people in their writing want them to vote.
00:15:57.060 We'll have more free vote.
00:15:58.600 The only condition is, you know, we have an electoral platform. We spoke about that platform since the creation of that party. And I said the same thing at the first election for us in 2019, the second election in 2021, that was the same platform. Today at my by-election, it's the same platform. It will be the same one at the next general election in 2025.
00:16:18.980 What we are doing, we are updating the platform.
00:16:22.600 Like at the last election with these huge deficits, I said we will balance the budget in four years.
00:16:28.560 But right now, we updated the platform and we will be able to do that in one year.
00:16:34.200 So more free vote and we'll have a better democracy.
00:16:38.700 Let me ask you this.
00:16:39.860 The zeitgeist of this country has moved so far left in the past seven or eight years.
00:16:45.300 I mean, you know, if you look at the last election and the vote for the popular vote for all of the leftist parties, and I include the NDP and the liberals and the Green Party in that, is 51 or 52 percent of the people of this country.
00:16:59.720 I'm not even sure if they understand what they're voting for.
00:17:02.440 But when it comes to certain topics, it seems like they're sacred cows.
00:17:06.000 As you pointed out, abortion.
00:17:07.960 The second you bring up abortion, people go right wing extremists.
00:17:12.200 You're right.
00:17:12.760 Or if you bring up health care, you know, and maybe bringing privatization into the mix in some way.
00:17:19.200 Oh, my God, you can't touch our health care.
00:17:21.980 It's free.
00:17:22.560 It's beautiful.
00:17:23.140 It's Canadian.
00:17:23.920 I mean, how do we start bringing this back and bring people back to some sort of sense of common sense?
00:17:30.640 You know, we need to have politicians that will do politics based on convictions and principles.
00:17:37.340 That's what we are doing at the PPC.
00:17:39.260 And why we have that? Because we are living in a socialist era right now. And you have the Conservative Party, whose only goal is to be in power and to please, you know, everybody and to have the seat in the big GTA and in Vancouver, where in these big cities, people are leftists, as you know, it's big liberal cities.
00:18:03.720 So the goal of, and Poniev, because he's afraid to speak, like you just said, abortion, like I said also, and health care.
00:18:13.260 We are the only party that said we must have more competition in health care.
00:18:18.580 We must have a universal mixed system, public and private, like in Europe.
00:18:25.740 And when I'm saying universal, everybody must have a universal insurance, and they will have the choice to go to a private clinic or a public hospital, like in almost every country in Europe, and it's less costly for the government.
00:18:44.060 They don't have huge waiting lists like we have here.
00:18:47.700 So, but Poliev won't speak about that because, you know, he will need to explain that to the population.
00:18:54.360 And he's afraid of the left saying, oh, no, no, you want a two-tier system.
00:19:02.200 And so he doesn't want to engage that debate.
00:19:04.460 Like on abortion, they're going to say, oh, you're against free choice.
00:19:10.160 And he doesn't want to do that.
00:19:12.580 So because Poitier is not bringing these subjects and speaking about that, Poitier is speaking like a liberal and is giving more credibility to the leftist narrative because he agrees with the leftist narrative.
00:19:28.260 I can go on on climate change. That's the same thing. He will support the Paris Accord. He will have some goals to achieve the goals in the Paris Accord. But I understand that he won't impose any carbon tax, but he will impose more regulations on businesses. That would be a cost for businesses and also a cost for consumers.
00:19:49.700 We will redraw from the Paris Accord. But Paul Yepp, when he's speaking like a liberal, is giving credibility to that leftist narrative and the country is going to the left. And so that's why in this by-election here in Portage, this guard, I said to people in the writing, I'm the only real conservative.
00:20:11.560 You know, if you want this debate, you need to have a real conservative populist and you need to vote for me.
00:20:17.680 And I'm telling them, vote for your principal.
00:20:21.920 That would be very important.
00:20:23.840 And we'll see what will happen June 19.
00:20:26.940 So June 19, there are three by-elections happening in Canada.
00:20:31.740 There are two in Manitoba, the one in your riding, Portage-Lisgar.
00:20:35.500 There's one in Winnipeg South Centre.
00:20:37.060 And then there's one in Quebec, Notre Dame de Grace Westmont, which is a Montreal riding.
00:20:42.360 People are asking, Max, why did you decide that you were going to run in Portage Lisgar as opposed to the riding that's open and available?
00:20:51.680 That's Marc Garneau's old riding in Montreal.
00:20:54.080 Why didn't you decide to go for that one?
00:20:56.620 It's simple.
00:20:57.600 You know, I'm not a leftist.
00:20:59.640 I'm not a socialist.
00:21:01.320 And I don't have anything in common with people living in Westmont.
00:21:05.080 You know, I was a member of parliament for BOSE. BOSE is a rural riding. And yes, it is a francophone riding also. But here in Portage Lisgar, it is a rural riding. Yes, the only difference is we have to speak English.
00:21:25.440 But actually, I'm very pleased because also they have a francophone community.
00:21:30.240 But also for me as a leader of a party, as the leader of the People's Party, my role and my responsibility is to be elected in parliament.
00:21:41.320 Look what the leader of the NDP did, Jack Mead.
00:21:44.880 You know, he was he's a guy from Toronto, downtown Toronto.
00:21:48.580 So he moved to the West Coast, to Vancouver to be elected.
00:21:54.520 good for him now he's elected as a as a leader of a party and so yes i'm here and usually leaders
00:22:01.800 like brian maroney the first time he was in a riding in nova scotia and after that when the
00:22:09.020 general election he was able to be elected and at the general the first general election he
00:22:14.080 chose a riding in quebec so for me portage lisgar is the best riding because also it's a
00:22:22.240 real conservative riding and we, the People's Party, we have the same platform as the Reform Party
00:22:29.840 in the 1980s and they voted for the Reform Party here and that populist revolution started out west
00:22:39.520 and I want to give the opportunity to people in Port-Age-Lysgar to be able to create that
00:22:46.820 that new common sense populist revolution and sending a strong, real conservative family voice
00:22:53.680 in Ottawa. So that's why I'm here. And also, I know that we have a lot of support. I did the
00:23:00.160 biggest rally during the last general election here in this riding. We had 3,000 people. That
00:23:08.360 was the biggest rally during the last election. And I'm very proud of my candidate, Solomon.
00:23:13.700 He had 22% of the vote.
00:23:17.000 So here in this riding, it would be a race between me and the conservative.
00:23:21.960 And I can tell you that I'm in the riding right now.
00:23:25.540 I'm in Winclair and I'm working hard and I like that.
00:23:30.520 Max, here is your competition and you're right.
00:23:33.080 It is a two horse race.
00:23:34.240 There's no way a liberal or an NDP or a green candidate is going to win that seat.
00:23:38.260 It's Brandon Leslie.
00:23:39.220 I believe Brandon was on Candice Bergen's support team for a few years before winning the nomination just a few weeks ago.
00:23:50.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:23:51.560 How dirty can politics get?
00:23:54.300 Can it get really nasty behind closed doors?
00:23:57.400 Do you guys have respect for each other and shaking hands behind closed doors and you say good luck to each other like men?
00:24:04.700 But first, I didn't have the opportunity to meet him.
00:24:08.320 I will have and I'm asking to I said to everybody in the writing I need we need to have debates and
00:24:16.260 I want to have a debate with him and you know it will be on facts it will be on policy and I'm ready
00:24:21.900 to have that I hope he will accept that you know you need and I'm I'm not so sure because the
00:24:28.100 conservative party usually they don't want their candidate to debate but I believe it is important
00:24:35.420 for people in Port-Age-Lysgar to know the difference between me and him.
00:24:40.660 And one big difference is he was working for six years in Ottawa,
00:24:46.700 working with a lobby group with the Trudeau government
00:24:50.540 to help the Trudeau government to go ahead with the net zero emission in 2050.
00:24:57.480 So he was working for being sure that the farmers here in our riding
00:25:03.160 will follow the Paris Accord.
00:25:05.420 And, you know, our position is the opposite.
00:25:08.280 We will withdraw from that.
00:25:10.000 So farmers here in Portage, Lisgård, won't have to follow new regulations and big costs because of the Paris Accord.
00:25:19.020 We won't deal with climate change.
00:25:22.420 We won't impose any regulation.
00:25:24.520 So that's a big difference between him and myself.
00:25:28.440 And I want the debate to show to people in the writing.
00:25:32.200 There's a lot of difference.
00:25:33.440 And what was the most important argument for the Conservatives during every general election out west?
00:25:43.000 They were saying at every election, don't vote for Bernier, don't vote for the People's Party,
00:25:49.700 because you will split the vote and you want to get rid of Trudeau.
00:25:54.720 So that's an argument that, you know, it's not true.
00:26:01.320 It's a bogus argument. But in a by-election, that argument does not apply. You don't vote to change the government. Before that election, we have the Trudeau government. And after that by-election, we'll have the Trudeau government.
00:26:18.340 So there's no such thing as splitting the vote during a by-election.
00:26:23.700 So they will have to find another argument.
00:26:27.540 And people understand that in their writing.
00:26:30.140 They have the opportunity to send a strong family voice,
00:26:33.600 common sense, populist voice in Ottawa,
00:26:36.160 and starting that national discussion.
00:26:38.780 Because, yes, when I'll table that bill on abortion,
00:26:42.620 Poliev would be in a position to say to everybody
00:26:45.580 why he is in favor of killing unborn babies
00:26:50.220 at six, seven months of pregnancy.
00:26:54.660 And like they don't do that in any Western countries.
00:26:58.180 In every Western countries in Europe,
00:27:01.580 civilized countries, what they're doing,
00:27:04.040 they have restriction on abortion at the second trimester.
00:27:08.480 And what I want the discussion,
00:27:10.120 I want the discussion at the last one after six months.
00:27:13.280 And I said that because I don't understand any, I don't know that a reasonable Canadian can say no to that.
00:27:22.140 It's a murder.
00:27:23.540 And so let's have that discussion.
00:27:25.280 Let's win that debate.
00:27:26.720 And after that, maybe we can propose another, do like the European countries.
00:27:33.300 But let's start there.
00:27:34.900 And it's very popular in the writing.
00:27:36.840 And we can have that national discussion and showing to everybody that the common sense can win.
00:27:43.280 You know, it's interesting. You've developed quite an attachment with Manitoba these past
00:27:48.280 couple of years. You got arrested a couple of years ago. You just had your court case for that
00:27:53.720 $2,000 fine a couple of days ago. You're running in Portage Lisgar now. You understand, it seems
00:28:00.140 inherently, what the issues are that are important to the people who live in this writing. It's
00:28:05.780 famously the Bible Belt of Manitoba. You've got Winkler. You've got Eltona down there. You've got
00:28:10.120 Morton, Portage La Prairie, and they've been having, Max, a big problem with some of these
00:28:16.100 books that have been available in public, publicly funded facilities, libraries down
00:28:22.580 there. Within the grasp of a four, five, six-year-old child, you see books like this.
00:28:28.640 Sex is a funny word. It's perfectly normal. You showed me a book before we went on the air
00:28:33.800 tonight. What are your feelings on this? How can we get this to change? Because this is becoming
00:28:38.820 an epidemic not just here but all across the country yeah you're right about saying that
00:28:45.300 actually uh it was last friday i had a meeting with parents here in the riding and you know i
00:28:54.260 was surprised that it is happening in this riding i thought it was only in big cities but yes you
00:29:01.780 It's the sexualization of our kids.
00:29:04.980 You are teaching sex to young kids,
00:29:08.740 like you said, seven, eight years old.
00:29:13.140 So we must stop that.
00:29:15.780 But Polly Heaven, the conservative, won't speak about that
00:29:18.540 because it is politically correct
00:29:23.120 to not speaking about that.
00:29:26.800 But yeah, the book, I would just show you
00:29:28.940 the title of that book here.
00:29:30.600 It's let's talk about sex and sex and this book is in the library in this writing.
00:29:39.000 And and parents are actually next.
00:29:41.720 I believe it's next Tuesday.
00:29:43.360 I will be with parents because there's a meeting with a school school board and we will be there and to ask the school board to stop that, you know.
00:29:54.460 And some of the picture photos in that book may be against the criminal code.
00:30:01.680 It's pornography when you show that to kids.
00:30:05.720 And that's what they're doing here.
00:30:07.360 It's all in line with that toxic ideology of transgenderism.
00:30:13.620 You know, it's toxic for our society.
00:30:17.240 But actually, we are the only party that is speaking about that.
00:30:22.360 It's crazy.
00:30:23.420 See, we are doing that cultural war, but the conservative won't do that.
00:30:28.460 We need to conserve our values.
00:30:31.440 But with the conservative, they're OK with that.
00:30:34.440 Poliev won't speak about that because he's afraid of the mainstream media.
00:30:39.900 And I'm not.
00:30:41.400 You know, it's interesting.
00:30:42.880 I'm not sure if you're aware of Josh Alexander.
00:30:45.180 I think you may have met him.
00:30:46.320 I think there's a picture of you and Josh together.
00:30:48.640 He was arrested in Calgary in front of a high school for protesting yesterday.
00:30:52.240 Not just arrested, but he was pushed around pretty violently by the Antifa crowd there, the purple haired male dress wearing crowd who were out in numbers.
00:31:05.260 I think Josh had maybe two or three people with him and the police arrested him, put him in the back of a paddy wagon and took him away because he broke the bylaws that have just been put in place by the Marxist mayor they have in Calgary.
00:31:18.520 I cannot believe the way this country is going in terms of police taking people who have been beaten away and arresting them and leaving the perpetrators still behind there to gloat and to cheer.
00:31:32.820 What's going on?
00:31:34.900 The police did the opposite of what they're supposed to do.
00:31:39.920 You know, instead of arresting violent people, they arrested a peaceful citizen protesting in a public place.
00:31:50.280 So that's, you know, that's not our country.
00:31:55.080 And not just they arrested him, but they put him in jail for a couple of hours for doing nothing.
00:32:02.120 You know, we are in a democratic country.
00:32:04.860 Usually you must be able to protest a government policy.
00:32:08.780 but like something happened to me you know i was in a park and doing rallies and they said you
00:32:16.980 don't have the right to speak about what you believe or we don't want to hear your other
00:32:21.700 point of view so we'll put you in jail Bernier for 12 hours and like that you won't be able to
00:32:27.680 do your rallies and and express your point of view before an electoral campaign as a leader
00:32:34.080 of a party in a democracy, and what I was doing, I was meeting people to build my party,
00:32:40.460 to recruit candidates, having candidates for the next election, everything that you're
00:32:47.180 doing in a democratic country to be ready when the election will come.
00:32:51.820 But they put me in jail, and they put him in jail for doing nothing, just being over
00:32:57.780 there and peacefully, and that crowd, they're very, very aggressive.
00:33:03.720 I know I did a rally in 2019 in Southern Ontario, and we had these Antifa, and usually it's the opposite.
00:33:15.480 When you Antifa, it's anti-fascism, but actually they are the fascists.
00:33:22.800 So it's like, you know, war in peace, and peace is war, and all that, 1984.
00:33:28.720 Double speak in 1984. How do we stop all of this madness? Is there a way to do it without having to legislate against it? Is it a matter of changing hearts and minds? How do we get there?
00:33:40.560 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, look what happened with COVID-19. We had a lot of censorship and all that and repression. But, you know, we won the debate. It took us two years. But we were right about the vaccine that wasn't effective, that was not safe.
00:34:01.880 And, you know, no government will be able to do any lockdowns in the future.
00:34:07.500 But we need to educate the population.
00:34:10.440 We need to be sure, because now I understand for a government, the Constitution is nothing.
00:34:17.220 Trudeau didn't respect our Constitution.
00:34:19.560 And we must ask the question, why?
00:34:21.600 The Constitution must be the supreme law of the land.
00:34:25.460 But why Trudeau was able to do that?
00:34:27.400 because he had the journalists, the media with him,
00:34:32.800 and he was able to shift the public opinion.
00:34:36.200 And during COVID-19, by using fear,
00:34:38.960 he was able to have the majority of the population saying,
00:34:42.440 oh yeah, we are okay.
00:34:43.800 The virus is so dangerous.
00:34:45.740 We are okay.
00:34:46.380 You must shut down the economy for that.
00:34:48.260 And the conservative as an opposition,
00:34:51.220 because their only goal is to be in power,
00:34:54.300 they saw that the majority was on that side.
00:34:57.400 So they didn't say anything.
00:34:59.320 But Poliers moved a little bit after the Freedom Convoy
00:35:02.380 because at that time, we were successful.
00:35:05.220 We had the majority on our side.
00:35:07.140 So we don't need politicians like that.
00:35:09.180 We need to have people that will speak about their ideas.
00:35:12.380 When it's not popular, knowing that the more you speak about it,
00:35:16.200 the more popular it will come because it's common sense
00:35:19.240 and based on our values as Canadians.
00:35:22.660 And that's what we are doing.
00:35:24.860 Max, we know that to some degree, Justin Trudeau is compromised by China.
00:35:30.160 We know this. I mean, it's glaringly obvious.
00:35:32.700 We also know that he has been possibly co-opted by Klaus Schwab in the World Economic Forum.
00:35:37.500 I'm sure you've seen that infamous video.
00:35:39.680 We know that Chrystia Freeland, the deputy prime minister of this country, is on the board of directors of the World Economic Forum.
00:35:47.420 Where are they getting their orders from exactly?
00:35:50.260 Or are they just doing all of this madness on their own?
00:35:53.860 No, no, you're right to say. I won't call it orders. You know, it's what the World Economic Forum, the UN, you know, they are a socialist organization and they have an idea.
00:36:10.100 And the idea is to promote socialism and to have a world government. But what they're doing, it's like a think tank. They are promoting their ideas and using everything to promote it.
00:36:23.340 So Trudeau personally agrees with that. And nobody forced Trudeau to accept the Paris Accord or to sign the migration compact on immigration or to open our borders on mass immigration. Nobody imposed that on him.
00:36:42.780 He strongly believes that it's the best thing for the country, and he's taking all his ideas from the UN, from the World Economic Front, and he's happy to implement that in a legislation in Canada.
00:36:56.540 That's why I said our country is a sovereign country.
00:37:00.160 And look what Danielle Smith did when she was elected.
00:37:03.580 Now, I hope she'll be re-elected.
00:37:05.400 She said to her civil servants, that's it with the World Health Organization.
00:37:12.080 I don't want you to deal with them anymore.
00:37:15.320 We are sovereign and healthcare is a provincial jurisdiction and we'll do what we think is
00:37:21.100 best for our people here in Alberta.
00:37:24.160 So she's able to do that.
00:37:26.280 We must do the same thing at the federal level, saying no to these international organizations,
00:37:32.140 cutting the fundings to these international organizations and promoting our sovereignty.
00:37:37.080 We will do it.
00:37:37.960 But yes, the World Economic Forum and the UN are very powerful and influential in Canada because the Liberals are in line with these ideas and they're very happy to bring new legislation.
00:37:52.200 And that would be what the World Economic Forum wants.
00:37:58.900 We've seen a lot of lockstep, though.
00:38:01.360 I mean, I can't believe I heard so many world leaders in the last two years ago and they build back better.
00:38:07.300 remember that it was joe biden saying it it was uh boris johnson saying it trudeau they were all
00:38:12.360 saying it there's one video of them all saying it merging them together we will build back better
00:38:18.040 i mean to me that was like wait a minute you you can't get three or four or five countries to
00:38:23.660 decide on anything without a two-year seminar and meeting after meeting after meeting and now
00:38:29.900 you're going to tell me you've got 177 or 190 countries all together agreeing on build back
00:38:35.220 better i mean that it just seemed to me to be a little over the top and like if there was a plan
00:38:40.560 in place way before yeah there is a plan you know they have ideas there is a plan and they
00:38:47.220 they have the media on their side same thing with covid19 safe and effective you you you saw that
00:38:55.020 everywhere in the media in uk in us in canada in australia safe and effective safe and effective
00:39:02.620 They were lying to us, and they knew that they were lying to us.
00:39:06.340 We know that it was not safe and effective.
00:39:08.680 Yes, they are together.
00:39:10.840 I'm pretty sure they did Zoom meetings together.
00:39:14.500 The civil servant, the deep state from every country are speaking to each other,
00:39:20.800 and the information and the talking points is the same.
00:39:24.600 You're absolutely right.
00:39:25.600 Yes, they have a plan.
00:39:26.740 They have ideas.
00:39:27.640 They are very efficient.
00:39:28.480 they have the media on their side and they're pushing pushing pushing until somebody said hey
00:39:34.200 no enough is enough go away we all do our things in our country like we want max they are still
00:39:41.880 pushing now this is leslund lewis who i happen to think is more of a ppc than a cpc i think you
00:39:47.320 probably try and recruit her over get her to cross the floor and come over to the people's party
00:39:51.580 she wrote a very extensive article on her own website leslundlewismp.ca regarding this hoop
00:39:57.980 pandemic treaty that is supposed to be signed next year. This is a legally binding treaty
00:40:03.640 that will make every government fall under the auspices of the World Health Organization,
00:40:09.280 should they decide to declare a worldwide health emergency or a pandemic, no matter what it really
00:40:16.540 is. How worrisome is this? Yeah, before answering the question, I just want to say something about
00:40:22.720 less than the waste you're right she's a great lady actually i know her when i was running for
00:40:29.260 the leadership for the leadership of the conservative party of canada in 2017 she was
00:40:34.720 in charge of my organization in toronto and so when she decided to run for the conservative party
00:40:41.720 the first time she called me and she asked me i said you know you're wasting your time over there
00:40:47.740 But if you want to do it, do it. And good luck. And she did it. And they used her just to say that they are not racist. They have an intelligent black lady. That's the reality. And now, because they had what they wanted with her, the credibility as not being a racist party.
00:41:06.080 so now you know she doesn't have any she's a backbencher she cannot bring project that she
00:41:13.400 likes she won't be able to bring a bill against the late-term abortion and that's why she's having
00:41:19.900 that blog like Erin O'Toole now is having that blog he's not a member of parliament so you know
00:41:25.820 you elected conservative MPs they cannot do anything for you and that's why you know it's
00:41:32.380 We need to change that.
00:41:33.780 But she's a great lady.
00:41:34.940 So speaking about what she said, she's right about it.
00:41:39.400 And they will have a meeting, I believe, in July.
00:41:42.900 And it's all about the new modification in that treaty.
00:41:47.460 And it may pass, but I hope it won't.
00:41:51.140 The good news is the African countries are very strongly against that.
00:41:58.080 And they're doing a great lobby to be sure that it won't pass.
00:42:01.520 I don't know. I know that Canada is in agreement with that, and they're okay with these modifications.
00:42:08.440 So that being said, if that passes, it won't be good for the country.
00:42:13.760 But don't forget, if you have a new government, you can just withdraw from that.
00:42:19.400 Look what Trump did when he was elected.
00:42:21.960 The U.S. signed the Paris Accord, and Trump was elected.
00:42:25.280 He said, no way, I don't want the Paris Accord. I withdraw from that.
00:42:28.840 That's why I'm saying, yeah, Trudeau will do everything to implement these socialist policies, but when we'll have a new government, and if that government does not believe in that, they will withdraw from that organization.
00:42:44.640 So that's why when I'm saying we are sovereign, we can do that.
00:42:49.240 It will be official in our country, but we can always withdraw with a new government.
00:42:57.720 You see, that's what I've been telling people who have been freaking out about this thing.
00:43:02.100 Shadow, you never talk about the World Health Organization Treaty.
00:43:04.920 They want it signed.
00:43:05.480 I say, well, that's because it's only words on a piece of paper.
00:43:08.560 And if there's a new government in place, they can withdraw.
00:43:11.660 But then again, you know, when we talk about something binding, do governments, are they bound to something a previous government has signed?
00:43:20.440 Or is it depending upon the wording of the deal?
00:43:23.580 No, no, no, no.
00:43:24.460 Every country, every country.
00:43:26.240 Yeah, it's binding. And when you sign an agreement like that, there's always a clause. Look at our free trade agreement with the U.S. And Merle only signed that in 1998. And that was a good deal with the U.S. That brought prosperity in our country.
00:43:43.800 But in that treaty, the U.S. or Canada, with a notification of six months, they are able to withdraw.
00:43:53.940 They were able to say, no, it's enough.
00:43:55.920 I don't want.
00:43:56.380 But because it's a good treaty between us and the U.S., that's why that treaty is still in force.
00:44:02.740 But in each one of them, you have a clause like that, that every country can decide tomorrow, no, I won't be part of that.
00:44:10.760 Okay, we've got this bill.
00:44:15.340 Well, not the bill, essentially,
00:44:17.240 but there's a bastardized version of this bill flying around the Internet.
00:44:22.880 People are petrified, and they were asking me to bring it up with you tonight.
00:44:27.740 Bill S-233, which was a bill that was introduced in the Senate of Canada
00:44:32.340 in December of 21, which is a National Framework
00:44:36.480 for a Guaranteed Livable Basic Income Act.
00:44:39.480 There it is right there from openparliament.ca. So I have gone through this bill and no place in this bill does it say they're going to take away any old age pension, any CCP, anything at all if you're not vaccinated, nor does it say that they're going to remove any of those services at all ever.
00:45:00.220 This is simply the framework, the national framework for a guaranteed livable basic income.
00:45:06.480 What are your thoughts on this?
00:45:08.340 First of all, on this bill.
00:45:09.640 And secondly, about some of the misinformation that flies around online and panics the hell out of people.
00:45:21.140 Yeah, so we must understand that, you know, this bill coming from the Senate is not in force.
00:45:28.760 first. To be in force, the Senate will have to vote for it. The Senate didn't vote. That's the
00:45:34.780 beginning of the process at the Senate. And after that, if the Senate said yes, that bill will have
00:45:40.200 to go to the House of Commons and the House of Commons will have to vote for it. And so what I
00:45:46.040 understand, it's a framework. And I understand that the Liberal government said that, you know,
00:45:52.160 because of this huge deficit, it would be costly. They don't want to implement that. So I believe
00:45:57.940 this bill would go nowhere. The next election would be in 2025. And that's only the beginning
00:46:04.860 of the process. So yes, it's sad that some people on social media are using the fear and saying,
00:46:13.220 oh, no, like the people did during COVID-19, if that bill passed, you won't have your pension
00:46:19.620 anymore. And if you're vaccinated, you won't be able to go to an hospital or things like, no, no,
00:46:26.980 So that bill, it's look at a framework.
00:46:30.800 So what the bill is saying, we want to think about what would be the best way to implement a kind of a uniform, how do you call that, uniform income.
00:46:47.000 So, but the cost of that.
00:46:48.840 It's like national welfare, pretty much.
00:46:50.560 I mean, we've already got welfare in the country, right?
00:46:52.880 It's just a provincial program as compared to a national thing.
00:46:55.960 Yeah, but also, and you have a good point there. Because we are a federation, and usually social programs are under the provincial jurisdiction. So if you want to implement only one program, one social program, you'll need to abolish all the other ones.
00:47:15.020 You need to have discussion with provinces to abolish all the other ones.
00:47:19.560 And I think, you know, the federal government does not control social programs coming from the provincial level.
00:47:26.820 So it's very difficult to implement a program like that in a federation.
00:47:32.380 It's easier in a country like France when you have a supply government and it's not a federation.
00:47:39.060 So that's why I believe that this bill would go nowhere.
00:47:42.560 and I don't want to scare Canadians about that.
00:47:46.100 And it's sad that, you know, some people are doing that.
00:47:49.440 We have, there's a lot of people who bring up the term
00:47:53.620 controlled opposition.
00:47:54.960 I'm sure you've heard a lot of that
00:47:56.560 in the past couple or three years.
00:47:58.580 You've been called it, I've been called it,
00:48:00.780 many other independent media have been called it,
00:48:03.400 many other politicians have been called
00:48:05.320 controlled opposition across the last three years, especially.
00:48:09.740 Have you seen any of this?
00:48:12.560 For real? Or is it just a bunch of shell games being played by people who are Antifa, who are, you know, favoring the Marxist parties in this country? Or is it maybe funded by a George Soros type? Is there something going on that you've seen that you can enlighten us with?
00:48:30.440 No, no. Control opposition, that expression, you know, control by who first? And I said we are a sovereign country. I must say that the opposition right now that we have in Parliament is controlled by the leftist narrative.
00:48:48.420 They don't have the courage to bring, you know, the common sense and the real conservative reform because right now it's not popular and they don't want, they want to please the majority.
00:49:01.000 So that's why, you know, Trudeau and Poliev on a lot of important issues for our country, they are the same.
00:49:08.340 And so you can say, oh, they are controlled by the liberals.
00:49:11.040 They are the same.
00:49:12.100 No, Poliev is not controlled by the liberals.
00:49:14.060 Poliev because of the socialist era right now and his goal. I'll tell you something. When I was
00:49:22.120 not elected the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, I didn't win with 49% of the vote.
00:49:29.540 So my ideas were very popular. And so I spoke with Andrew Scheer. And after 15 months,
00:49:37.080 I had a meeting with him. And that was in 2018, a couple of months before the general election in
00:49:43.200 2019. I said, Andrew, I had 49% of the vote. And I must admit that Andrew was very honest with me.
00:49:50.660 And I said, can you take some of my ideas for the next platform of the Conservative Party of Canada?
00:49:58.440 My ideas were very popular. And Andrew looked at me and he said, you're right, Maxime. Your ideas
00:50:04.840 were very popular with the membership of the Conservative Party of Canada. But they are not
00:50:11.920 popular with the general population. And my goal now is to be prime minister. So the same thing,
00:50:21.020 Poliev is doing the same thing. He spoke like a real conservative during the conservative contest
00:50:26.480 to be elected. But now his goal is to be prime minister. So he's speaking like the liberals
00:50:32.320 to have votes in big cities and to be able to have more seats. And he's taking for granted
00:50:38.020 the real conservative out West is taking for granted his base out West because his candidates
00:50:45.920 here in Western Canada are winning by 70% of the vote, 60% of the vote. And I know what he's saying
00:50:53.180 to his candidates. Harper did the same thing. Oh, you know, don't complain. You'll win instead
00:50:59.860 of winning by 70 percent, you win by 50 percent or 44 percent. But we will move there and we'll
00:51:07.220 have more support in Toronto and Vancouver and we will be in government. So that's why that's part
00:51:13.880 of my campaign. Don't vote for a conservative. They are taking your vote for granted. They won't
00:51:19.340 do anything in Ottawa for you. So so the control opposition for Poliev, Poliev is the who control
00:51:27.580 who controlled polyeth the public survey the the polls and and if you don't speak about an idea
00:51:35.120 the people won't know so that's that's the situation i know when i was yeah how did harper
00:51:43.080 win i mean he he's a conservative through through how did stephen harper win i mean i know he had
00:51:49.320 two minorities before he got a majority government but how how did he get enough votes how did he get
00:51:54.400 enough seats to form a government in the first place if this is such a leftist country or has
00:51:59.420 it gone even further leftist in the past 10 years yeah upper the the fact that was because of jason
00:52:06.380 kenny that we had a majority because you know he pendered to the uh immigrant ethnic immigration
00:52:14.020 group in the gta and in vancouver and he did that for three years before the general election when
00:52:20.340 He had a majority, and so he was saying to the immigrants,
00:52:25.840 it would be more immigrants, you'd be able to have your family members with you,
00:52:30.160 and all that.
00:52:30.740 That was very successful.
00:52:32.420 But also, you must ask after that,
00:52:34.920 the conservative Harper had a majority government for four years.
00:52:40.200 What is the legacy of Stephen Harper?
00:52:43.620 Nothing.
00:52:44.740 Trudeau undo everything the first year of his mandate.
00:52:48.280 There's no legacy.
00:52:49.160 Nothing.
00:52:50.340 You know, so and that and Poliev, that would be the same thing.
00:52:55.120 They don't have the courage to speak about something.
00:52:58.560 You know, I know that out West here, we don't like Brian Maroney.
00:53:02.480 But Brian Maroney was a leader one time during the 1988 election when he decided to say free trade with U.S. is very important.
00:53:13.020 And I'm doing my campaign on that.
00:53:14.720 When he decided that the NDP, the Liberals, the Green, the Bloc Québécois, everybody at that time was against a free trade agreement with the U.S.
00:53:27.280 And also the public opinion and the media.
00:53:31.280 Now, if you look at a survey that time, the population in line with a free trade agreement
00:53:41.080 with the U.S., I believe that it was about 15 percent of the population or 20 percent.
00:53:46.900 He decided to do that fight and to educate and inform the population.
00:53:51.700 And he started not being able to win.
00:53:55.140 And he finished that campaign with the biggest majority in the history of our country.
00:54:00.580 So he was a leader. He didn't follow the public opinion. He created the public opinion. So that's the difference with Harper and Poliev. They are not leaders. They are following the public opinion.
00:54:15.260 And in my case, I don't have any time to waste. That's why we don't change our platform. We have always the same one because we need to be out there and to inform and educate the population. And I believe that we will win because our time will come. The common sense will come.
00:54:33.140 And actually, I was right. We started the party at 0% in 2018, 1.6% in 2019, 5% in 2021. And maybe next time it will be 10. Step by step, by doing politics based on principles, we will be able to win.
00:54:48.460 But that's what happened with a government that was elected with a majority, with Harper, didn't do any reform. He won't be in the history book, Harper. The only thing it would be, it would be for reunite the right by merging the Canadian alliance with the Progressive Conservative Party.
00:55:10.380 But I believe that Mironi would be in the historic book because he created the Reform Party by, you know, it's because of Mironi and Mironi did a big mistake and we had the Reform Party out west.
00:55:26.340 And also he tried to bring back Quebec in the Constitution.
00:55:30.640 He was not successful, but at least he tried.
00:55:33.800 He privatized Petro Canada.
00:55:39.260 He created the GST that was not popular,
00:55:42.860 but I prefer a consumer tax than an income tax.
00:55:46.440 And because of the GST, Chrétien was able to balance the budget.
00:55:51.920 So, and he was the first leader to be with the South Africa, with Mandela at that time.
00:56:05.060 So, yeah, but Harper, nothing, nothing.
00:56:10.980 I wanted to stop the corporate welfare.
00:56:15.560 I was industry minister.
00:56:17.060 I said, we must stop to give money to big corporations.
00:56:20.220 And I first said, no, no, no, it's not popular.
00:56:22.240 We won't do that.
00:56:23.100 I said, how come it's not popular?
00:56:24.940 The small business owner will be with us.
00:56:29.540 They won't have $1 million subsidies.
00:56:32.680 And I believe that the population will be on our side.
00:56:35.020 We just have to speak about it and they will understand.
00:56:38.080 No, no, no, no, don't bring that issue.
00:56:40.240 We won't do that.
00:56:41.180 Keep giving money to Bombardier and GM.
00:56:44.200 And you know what I did?
00:56:45.220 I didn't want to have my face there giving a check to GM and Bombardier.
00:56:50.920 So I was very popular with the other ministers because when we had an announcement about 10 millions to GM and 20 millions to Bombardier,
00:57:01.080 I called one of my friends, another minister, and I said, do you want to give a check to Bombardier and do the press conference?
00:57:09.700 You'll be on TV and all that.
00:57:11.240 Oh, yes. Thank you, Maxime. Yes, yes, yes.
00:57:15.220 You don't strike me as a guy who has ever gone along with the narrative.
00:57:20.100 I mean, if you don't agree with it, you just, you know, you will stand up to the bullies.
00:57:25.700 Oh, yeah.
00:57:26.140 And I like it.
00:57:26.900 Always.
00:57:27.780 Yeah.
00:57:28.180 And I like it.
00:57:28.860 How important, Max?
00:57:29.380 You know, the media can write everything about me.
00:57:33.040 I know who I am and I can sleep very well at night.
00:57:37.540 How important is it for you to win this by-election in Portage-Lisgarh for the People's Party
00:57:44.140 and not just for the party, but especially for the people of this country?
00:57:49.360 Yeah, for me, it's very important.
00:57:51.100 You know, that's why, you know, I'm here, I'm campaigning full time.
00:57:54.820 We have a strong team.
00:57:56.500 And, you know, people in Portage, Lisgar, has the opportunity to make history,
00:58:03.480 to do like they did with the Reform Party in a by-election.
00:58:07.860 they voted for Deborah Gray in 1989.
00:58:11.560 That was the first Reform Party candidate elected.
00:58:15.760 And after that, at the general election,
00:58:17.780 they were able to have 51 reformed members of parliament.
00:58:22.660 So let's, and we'll have that discussion
00:58:26.060 at the national level.
00:58:27.680 The big difference would be the national media
00:58:30.580 won't be able to cancel me anymore.
00:58:33.560 I would be in parliament.
00:58:34.640 I will debate Trudeau and Poliev, so it's important.
00:58:39.340 That's why I'm here, I'm campaigning, and, you know, I hope and I'll do my best to win.
00:58:45.420 We'll see.
00:58:46.560 But if I don't win, I can tell you that I will be back in this riding at the general election
00:58:53.000 and building the team.
00:58:54.940 And I believe that at that time, if I don't win, you know, I strongly believe that we
00:59:00.920 have a good chance.
00:59:03.020 You know, it's going well.
00:59:04.000 I did a rally yesterday. We had one good person and we just, you know, published that a day in
00:59:09.920 advance. And I was meeting with people and they're saying, Maxime, yes, you have the right ideas and
00:59:16.200 it's time to vote. And people understand that a vote for me, it's not splitting the vote. And
00:59:23.380 they know that and they know that they have a chance to bring that conversation at another
00:59:28.140 of all. So I'll do my best. And if I don't win, I can tell you that I'll be back in that same
00:59:34.420 riding for the next general election. Are you going to buy a house in Portage-Lisgar
00:59:39.340 somewhere, maybe in Winkler, maybe in Altona, maybe in Morden, if you win?
00:59:43.740 Oh, absolutely. You know, like I said to my wife, she told me, she said, Maxime,
00:59:51.020 she's in Montreal right now. And she said, when are you coming back to Montreal? Because I'm here.
00:59:57.180 i'm in win clear right now and i said you know the question is when are you coming here because
01:00:04.840 i will win and after the 19 you will have to come and we'll pick a new place and we'll have a new
01:00:10.600 life here and she laughed go ahead yeah she laughed she said you you're sure you know i'm
01:00:18.640 positive you know i believe that i will win and i feel it and it's going it's going well
01:00:24.220 you're feeling a connection with the people oh yeah oh yeah i thought because i speak because
01:00:31.880 i'm a francophone you know with my accent and all that and you know no they know me we created that
01:00:40.580 party five years ago and they know me they know that i always said the same thing and i have and
01:00:47.920 i'm pleased with that i have a lot of credibility they understand that when i'm saying something i
01:00:52.940 believe in it and I will fight for it. And I believe that they appreciate that. And they know
01:00:58.600 that, you know, I'm real and I'm there for them. And actually, I want to tell you, when I decided
01:01:05.360 to run in Bose in 2006, I worked 19 years in Montreal in the financial sector. I was living
01:01:13.440 in Montreal. You know, yes, Bose was my little town. I left Bose at 15 years old. But people in
01:01:22.040 both in 2006 were telling me, oh, Maxime, you know, are you ready to move if you win? You know,
01:01:28.860 you're living in Montreal in that big city and blah, blah, blah. I said, yes, if I win,
01:01:34.140 I will move in both. And I did it. And I was with them for 13 years.
01:01:39.540 Wow. A couple of questions before we let you go, Max. I know you've had a long day campaigning and
01:01:45.480 you've got another long month in front of you. People want me to ask you about the 15-minute
01:01:50.560 city project that seems to be sprouting up everywhere across the country and this central
01:01:55.560 bank digital currency that they're exploring right now and they want people's opinions on so
01:02:01.080 whichever one of those you want to take on first please go ahead yeah central bank digital currency
01:02:06.780 actually i want to say to people that that is happening in the not the last budget but the
01:02:12.500 2021 budget, the Trudeau government gave $17 million to the Bank of Canada and to the Finance
01:02:21.160 Department to look at a central bank digital currency in Canada and to be ready to work on
01:02:29.000 the legislation for that. And the Trudeau government gave that money for three years.
01:02:34.080 So that means that in 2025 or 2024, the finance department will be ready to table a legislation on that.
01:02:44.940 So that's a project.
01:02:47.140 And actually, I must say that every central bank are looking at the same project.
01:02:53.380 So why we don't want a central bank digital currency?
01:02:57.980 It's very simple.
01:02:59.440 It's about privacy.
01:03:00.760 And they are saying, oh, it would be more efficient.
01:03:04.080 No, no. It won't be more efficient. You want to buy something, you can use your debit card, you can use your credit card, you can pay with cash. It won't be more efficient. The system is very efficient right now. And I can tell you, I was a banker. I worked with the National Bank for, I believe, nine years in Quebec. So I know the system is very efficient.
01:03:26.360 so why why we don't want that because i don't know what you did today but i'm pretty sure that
01:03:34.140 you spent some money and i'm pretty sure that you paid with your debit or credit card and tonight
01:03:40.280 after the show you may be able to go on your bank account and online and looking at your bank account
01:03:47.140 and looking at your credit card you'll be able to see every transaction that you did every one of
01:03:53.740 them and you are able you go to your bank you look at at your bank account or your visa or
01:04:01.160 mastercard account you have all your transactions that information is a private information between
01:04:08.940 you and your banker you know your bank cannot sell that information that every wednesday you're
01:04:16.020 going to walmart or things like they cannot sell that it's private it the the log the data is
01:04:22.640 between you and your banker for a central bank digital currency,
01:04:27.760 that log, these data will be between you and the central banker.
01:04:32.660 So what I'm telling you, the central banker, the bureaucrats,
01:04:36.920 will know everything that you're doing, every penny that you are spending.
01:04:41.620 And so if the central banker knows that, the politician will know it.
01:04:47.760 So if maybe because of climate change, climate change to decide that, oh, you know, Maxime, you spend too much money on gas this month and your debit card or credit card, you won't be able to have gas and to pay with your debit and credit card because we look at your log, at your data and, you know, you're driving too much.
01:05:11.020 So that's the beginning of social credit system like in China.
01:05:15.560 We don't need that.
01:05:17.160 We need to fight that.
01:05:18.880 Privacy, it's important.
01:05:20.980 And that's the central bank.
01:05:22.820 They need to know.
01:05:23.860 But the way to implement that,
01:05:26.020 they will do like I did when I was a banker
01:05:29.040 and we had the ATM machine.
01:05:32.980 Remember, I don't know if you're all like me,
01:05:36.340 but I'm pretty sure that you remember
01:05:38.680 the beginning of the ATM machine.
01:05:40.820 I was a manager at a branch.
01:05:43.100 And we said to our clients,
01:05:45.560 And we had two person near these ATM machine to teach how to use it.
01:05:50.340 And we were saying to them, it would be faster.
01:05:54.780 You won't have to wait in line.
01:05:56.700 It's safe.
01:05:57.680 And it's free.
01:05:58.980 You don't pay anything.
01:06:00.120 It's free.
01:06:01.220 That was the way to implement the ATM machine.
01:06:04.900 But now it's not free anymore.
01:06:07.060 If you go there, you'll pay one cent for a transaction or $3.
01:06:11.460 So it's not free anymore.
01:06:13.140 and the bankers are making a lot of money with that.
01:06:16.420 That would be the same thing.
01:06:17.860 The way to implement the central bank digital currency,
01:06:21.560 that would be simple.
01:06:22.940 The federal government would create a program
01:06:25.020 and it would give money to you,
01:06:27.840 like maybe the COVID-19 subsidies that you did.
01:06:31.500 If you want to have that,
01:06:33.120 you need to register at the central bank.
01:06:36.320 Register there and you'll receive that money.
01:06:39.040 That would be great.
01:06:40.040 It would be faster.
01:06:41.140 Don't wait for the check and all that.
01:06:42.700 just register at the central bank people will do that you'll be logged in there you'll receive the
01:06:48.620 money and that would be the beginning what about the 15-minute city plan do you think this is a
01:06:54.380 real thing i mean it is happening in a couple of cities in europe i think uh paris has tried it
01:07:00.140 as an experiment oxford shire in the uk is definitely implementing this thing uh edmonton
01:07:05.740 we hear rumblings that it's going to be happening there they're going to be splitting that city into
01:07:09.980 six districts. What are your thoughts? Yeah, it can happen here in Canada, but it's mostly under
01:07:17.340 a provincial and municipal jurisdiction. But as a federal leader, I'm speaking against that. You
01:07:22.500 know, we don't need that. And we'll see if it's in every cities, what we can do as a federal
01:07:29.560 government to stop that. But yes, first, we must be very strong against that. And I am, sorry.
01:07:39.060 So it's, but I'm more scared about the central bank digital currency than that.
01:07:46.620 But yes, you know, 15-minute city, we don't need that.
01:07:50.340 It would be another way to control you.
01:07:52.620 You know, you must stay in 15 minutes.
01:07:54.400 They want to give you, and actually, Poliev said, you know, it's good because you won't
01:07:59.020 need a car.
01:08:00.320 Everything will be near your apartment.
01:08:03.300 No, no, I'm against that project.
01:08:05.860 We don't, it's another project that is coming from the UN.
01:08:09.060 from the World Economic Front.
01:08:12.000 And that's the globalist who has ideas
01:08:15.700 and they try to implement that everywhere.
01:08:18.260 We just need, and yeah, we need people
01:08:20.380 that will run at the municipal level
01:08:22.580 and at the provincial level saying,
01:08:24.520 no, no, I won't implement that.
01:08:26.340 And if they are, we need people.
01:08:28.060 That's why I said to people,
01:08:29.640 run with us at the federal level
01:08:31.120 if you believe in our ideas.
01:08:32.960 But also, you know, like everything
01:08:36.160 that is happening in our school,
01:08:37.580 I said, you know, I'm speaking against that, but you need to run at the school board, you need to run also at the municipal level, and then we need people to walk the talk.
01:08:50.440 And that will happen if they're pushing too hard on that.
01:08:55.460 Last question, Max. What do you say? Because I know you've been called this a lot in the past couple of years, ever since that smear campaign against you.
01:09:02.980 I think the Conservative Party lined up, what's his name, Warren Kinsella, to write about you guys.
01:09:08.220 I thought that was kind of crude.
01:09:09.760 And I know politics is a dirty game.
01:09:11.480 But how many times have you been called a right-wing radical Nazi extremist?
01:09:16.620 And what is your response to that?
01:09:18.720 I'm sure by now you've come up with a 15-second pitch response to that.
01:09:23.960 Yeah, they did that in 2019.
01:09:26.540 You're right, the Conservative Party of Canada.
01:09:28.420 That's why I said that party is intellectually morally corrupt.
01:09:31.580 And what they said, they paid $65,000 to Kinsella in Ontario to discredit our party, discredit me and saying that I was a racist because, you know, we were saying at that time that we are against mass immigration.
01:09:46.780 We want sustainable immigration. And you know what? They are not speaking about that anymore.
01:09:51.760 And yes, the mainstream media wrote the right wing extremist right wing party at that time in the 2019 election.
01:09:58.500 but in the 20 and and when that happened i received a call from preston manning and preston
01:10:04.580 manning told me maxine they did everything to discourage you they did the same thing with the
01:10:09.720 reform party when we started the reform party they were saying that i was a racist from out west
01:10:15.160 but they were not able to say that at the second election because it was not true and so that's the
01:10:20.820 same thing at the last election in 2021 you know they were not able to say that they didn't say
01:10:25.700 that. They didn't wrote in the paper
01:10:27.680 that I'm a far-right party, and
01:10:29.620 now they're not writing that, because
01:10:31.600 go on our website, look our policies.
01:10:34.240 It's all
01:10:35.100 freedom, common sense,
01:10:37.520 radical decentralization.
01:10:40.120 So, but, no,
01:10:41.500 right now, you know, they did that in the
01:10:43.660 beginning, they tried it, didn't work,
01:10:45.900 and it's behind me,
01:10:47.600 and they won't be able to say that
01:10:49.660 anymore, and they are not,
01:10:51.540 because the truth will always prevail,
01:10:53.680 and it's a question of
01:10:55.640 time like covid19 max thank you for joining the show tonight really appreciate you taking the time
01:11:02.680 best of luck in portage lisgar it looks like you're connecting with the people uh very well
01:11:06.940 it's a large riding so you got a lot of driving in front of you i hope they don't shut off your
01:11:10.640 digital card yeah actually i was yeah i was surprised because you're both was you know
01:11:18.060 i did run from the south of my riding to the north of my riding to raise money for a food bank
01:11:24.180 and that was a run of 100 kilometers
01:11:26.720 and I did that in 12 hours
01:11:28.820 so for me it was a large
01:11:30.800 big riding but here
01:11:32.560 from the south to the north
01:11:34.500 it may be 3 hours
01:11:36.620 by car so yes
01:11:38.240 but I like it
01:11:39.400 and I like people here and we'll see what will happen
01:11:42.840 Okay Max
01:11:44.400 thank you, have a great night and we'll talk to you again
01:11:46.900 Thank you
01:11:48.540 There is Maxime Bernier
01:11:50.940 running for
01:11:52.540 mp in portage lisgar the elections are coming up uh in two and a half weeks and one more
01:11:59.680 note tonight hang on just a second maybe there's two
01:12:02.640 yeah one more note tonight you guys i'm sorry we didn't get to the maid question um for max but i
01:12:11.640 know that we know how he feels about the expansion of that program and even about how it exists now
01:12:19.740 This story here from Left Wing Corporate CTV and Marco Mendicino, who is the minister of safety, was boasting about this on his Twitter today smugly.
01:12:30.740 And I don't know what it is about politicians who have been in power for for a long time, especially liberal politicians.
01:12:39.040 They seem to have this arrogant, smug air to them.
01:12:43.920 And for that reason alone, we should vote them out.
01:12:48.960 even if their policies were awesome which they're not just the you know what a dose of humility
01:12:56.220 goes a very very long way liberal gun control legislation bill c21 has passed the house of
01:13:04.260 commons and it's now on its way to the senate where it could pass in the next couple of weeks
01:13:10.820 and you can read all about that wherever you want to read about that what did you think about max
01:13:16.380 Bernier tonight you guys write it down in the comments
01:13:18.380 whether you're watching on Rumble whether you're
01:13:20.360 watching on Facebook or Twitter write it down
01:13:22.480 tell me what you think I know
01:13:24.420 there's a lot of people who go ah he's
01:13:26.320 just controlled opposition himself
01:13:28.240 and he's working for Trudeau and by the
01:13:30.320 way somebody said that I said that he was
01:13:32.320 working for Trudeau and I never said that
01:13:34.440 it never would even
01:13:36.100 pop into my head to say
01:13:38.380 something ridiculous like that
01:13:40.020 Max the only question I've
01:13:42.380 had about Max over
01:13:44.360 the course of the last
01:13:46.380 well, since he left the Conservative Party and formed the PPC,
01:13:50.660 is why is he doing this?
01:13:54.060 What's his rationale for doing this?
01:13:57.180 Is it ego?
01:13:58.820 Is it hurt feelings?
01:14:01.720 But after tonight's discussion and the previous discussion we've had,
01:14:05.320 I think we've had two or three on this show now,
01:14:10.060 he is passionate about wanting to make things better for Canadians
01:14:15.420 through a common sense approach in this election there is in the portage lisgar by-election
01:14:23.300 there is absolutely zero chance that a liberal or an ndp or a green is going to come up the middle
01:14:33.580 and take this riding okay i know people are worried about splitting the vote and as max
01:14:41.340 was saying that not in a by-election that's not the way it works but in this particular writing
01:14:47.180 the last time the last election candace bergen was the cpc candidate and she got
01:14:54.000 52 of the vote the ppc candidate got 22 of the vote and then the rest got the rest right
01:15:02.460 and if you add up the votes for the liberals the greens and the ndp in that writing from the last
01:15:10.700 10 elections it doesn't come close to the votes that the cpc has gotten so it is a very conservative
01:15:20.560 riding is it possible that the ppc could win this thing is it possible that the people's party of
01:15:32.440 canada gets their first mp in the house of commons as max pointed out earlier um that was the very
01:15:41.260 first riding that went reform back in the early 1990s or even the late 1980s i can't remember
01:15:48.400 so portage lisgar has been a riding of change and history in this country um i'm not telling you
01:15:58.780 what to do. I never would. But what I am suggesting here is that you got to vote your heart in this
01:16:05.080 one. If you live in that riding, you got to vote your heart. You vote your heart. Don't worry about
01:16:11.280 splitting the vote. That's not going to happen. You can go ahead and look at the results in that
01:16:15.700 riding yourself and see that the liberals and the NDP and the Greens, they haven't got a chance.
01:16:20.640 It's going to be between Maxime Bernier and I forget the conservative candidate's name already.
01:16:26.540 that's what you have to do uh vote your heart and that's it for the show tonight you guys uh
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01:19:55.360 that's it for the show tonight i hope you enjoyed thank you to maxime bernier the leader of the ppc
01:20:01.180 party and also the candidate in the upcoming by-election in Portage-Lisgar, the PPC candidate
01:20:07.280 in the upcoming by-election in Portage-Lisgar. You guys have yourself a great night and a great
01:20:13.020 day tomorrow. And I will talk to you again tomorrow night at eight o'clock central for
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