00:10:56.280So, you know, what you do as a legal advisor and an analyst and even as a marketer is we go through all this complicated data and we simplify it for physicians, you know, putting it into diagrams and headlines and bullet points.
00:11:09.120We simplify it for investors. You know, I was working with startups. Johnson & Johnson Development Corp., which is one of the larger merger and acquisition arms in venture capital and Pharma was a client of mine.
00:11:18.820And so just, you know, going through all this data and simplifying it for different audiences, whether it's physicians or investors, you know, and then we also I would run med legal meetings.
00:11:30.640So that's the med legal team is your marketing team, which is all the marketers.
00:11:36.380It's the attorney that's that's on board there.
00:11:39.020It's one of your chief scientific officer or one of the PhDs or MDs or a couple of those guys are in there.
00:11:44.980Sometimes you'd have a sales rep, not a sales rep, like a head of sales in the meeting.
00:11:50.780And we had to make sure everything they were saying was compliant with the regulations, with the law, and was adherent to what they submitted to the FDA.
00:11:59.640And, you know, created, you know, thousands and thousands of pages of content from websites.
00:12:07.500So if you ran across a discrepancy with all the material that you were going through back then, you would go to whichever person who was responsible for that and say, hey, look, we got a problem here.
00:12:17.320We got to fix this. And I'm going to assume here they would probably say, oh, oh, oh, oh, we can't have that.
00:12:23.160And so they would go and fix it. Right. I mean, that's probably the way it worked.
00:12:27.400I'm going to make the assumption. Typically. Well, and sometimes I was called in by the board.
00:12:31.460so johnson and johnson is like 68 companies you know and they actually all report into the
00:12:37.140head company so they have one company going rogue and my nickname was the cleaner so sometimes i
00:12:41.580was called them by the board and they're like these guys are going rogue get them back on track
00:12:45.400because they didn't want to get a 500 million dollar fine um so typically when i you know went
00:12:50.880to um the the sales guys always wanted to kind of do their own they always wanted to go rogue
00:12:57.460and sometimes the marketers did too but and then the attorneys don't want you to do anything at all
00:13:02.260they just they're like don't don't even put up a website at all ever like so you just had to find
00:13:07.720the balance but typically yeah they would correct things um but i would also you know my tagline
00:13:12.900was accomplish more so i'd ask my clients what they wanted to accomplish and then because there's
00:13:17.080so much data to go through and you know so many different ways you can message things so
00:13:21.740are they tailored to what they wanted to accomplish unless what they were doing was
00:13:26.240um not legal right so sometimes other marketing consulting firms would come in and like they
00:13:32.680there's one firm like you can't do this like they were they wanted to send out the these free
00:13:38.720medical devices is what they were it's a surgical implant right that could be used on patients and
00:13:44.320then we used to call these early experience programs so in the 2000s you could do this
00:13:49.200the med devices companies could and and then for every surgery the doctor performed they got a you
00:13:53.980know uh honoraria whatever like a thousand two thousand dollars so in 2000 that was legal like
00:14:00.300and then 2010 when they passed the sunshine act it wasn't legal so there's like marketing consulting
00:14:05.760firm like made this whole recommendation to do this whole program and it was a huge firm i don't
00:14:09.580want to say anything because i want to get in trouble and i and then i was brought in i was
00:14:12.780like wait a minute hold on hold on hold on hold on you you saying that you don't want to get in
00:14:18.960trouble is kind of funny well i don't want to well i don't want to i mean after everything that
00:14:25.400you've been through to say that you don't want to get in trouble that that makes me laugh i'm sorry
00:14:30.160i don't know if i was i probably like those ndas they don't expire right for that i was under for
00:14:36.040for these companies so i don't want to mention the company that i had to clean up after so
00:14:41.720yeah so so sometimes they would do things you know you you know you can't it used to believe
00:14:46.640on, it used to be legal, we call them honorarias, but you can't give doctors kickbacks, right?
00:14:51.960That goes against the Sunshine Act, right? So there's different laws. And so, you know,
00:14:57.380there was one time with a client where, you know, they were bent on doing this tactic and strategy,
00:15:05.960and I had to fire them because I was like, I can't, I can't be part of this. I can't produce
00:15:10.500materials for it. And then this is what's funny, though, it was eight months later, they called me
00:15:15.380because again my nickname was a cleaner and they're like call that woman back again
00:15:18.660and they're like ah we just got this warning letter from the fda can you fix everything
00:15:22.700and how long is it going to take you know so wow or just to yeah recall all the materials and
00:15:29.860get everyone on board with uh what you can and cannot say so you're reading thousands of pages
00:15:38.400of material because other people wouldn't do that because people could go blind on that i mean let's
00:15:45.160be honest 99 of people out there they don't want to read that stuff if you say i got a book for you
00:15:50.500to read and somebody goes cool what is it well it's this one it's like a thousand two hundred
00:15:54.360pages they're going to go yeah maybe later and they won't ever touch it but you seem to have
00:16:00.140a love and a knack for that correct yeah i've always been into science so you know typically
00:16:07.920you know with my clients we go through um i go through all the peer-reviewed publications so
00:16:12.720there might be a hundred studies on their product and every study ranges from 12 to 80 some odd
00:16:18.880pages, you know? So you go through that looking for, you know, kind of those little golden jewels
00:16:25.780of information that you can, um, share with people, you know, kind of like how I found
00:16:31.220lipid nanoparticles immediately crossed the bloodline barrier, no matter whether or not
00:16:35.460you program them. So like things, things like that. So, um, again, when you go through med
00:16:40.660legal, you have to look at the data that's submitted to the FDA, the FDA laws. And then
00:16:45.180you can look at guidelines from industry and things like that. And at Thermo Fisher, they have
00:16:50.880thousands of clients from pharma to universities that do research or biotech. So you have millions
00:16:55.840of lines of data to go through. And so it was my job to go through all that information and come up
00:17:00.380with a messaging and correlation for, again, all those different audiences. And people wanted to
00:17:07.760paid me. I mean, I joke, I say I read so my clients don't have to. But when you go into the
00:17:13.120med legal meetings, you know, they're given the final document, you know, whether it's a 80 page
00:17:18.660monograph or a, you know, 20 page 20 slide slide deck investor slide deck, and that would be in a
00:17:25.600board meeting. And they're giving they're given all the annotated references, the full references
00:17:29.880to go through and they have a week or so to review it. And so he go in that meeting, and you don't
00:17:36.120like the messaging or you don't like a particular point or whatever, like you have to be prepared
00:17:41.880to say, okay, what slide, what page number, what point, what does it say in the citation? Is that
00:17:48.420citation legally acceptable under current regulations? And then what under current
00:17:53.780regulations or under our company's policies are you saying this is in violation of? And if you
00:17:59.340can't answer those questions, you did not have permission to speak in the meetings, right? If
00:18:04.380you just said, I don't want to do this. You said, why? And it was obvious you hadn't gone through
00:18:09.020the material and made a specific point. You were not allowed to bring it up. And you also weren't
00:18:14.820allowed to bring it up unless you had a solution to what you were seeing the problem was. Because
00:18:19.380when you looked at the people that were in these meetings, again, it's attorneys, the corporate
00:18:23.120attorneys, there's doctors in the meetings, there's the top marketing, sometimes there's board
00:18:27.960members. So you're looking at a meeting that's running $20,000 an hour. So if you waste 15,
00:18:33.54030 minutes, you know, um, because you're just a Karen, I guess you want to call him that.
00:18:39.740That's just, it's like, no, I don't look around. You have no idea what you're doing. You're just
00:18:42.780juggling. Hey, look at me. I don't know the answer, but boy, I can juggle. Um, yeah. And I think that
00:18:47.240was a lot in, I was, was that in local County, um, like officers meetings, right? They, they'd
00:18:53.980have these bills or, um, ordinances or, you know, that they'd want to pass and they had them for
00:19:00.500three weeks to review them and they would just say no I don't want to do it but it was clear they
00:19:04.720had never read it you know so they were trying to pass ordinances here in some counties here in the
00:19:10.940United States to stop the World Health Organization international health regulations from having any
00:19:16.160authority in the county and it'd be clear that the local officials never read the attachment
00:19:23.100you know and they're like there's nothing wrong with these health regulations they're like they're
00:19:27.240they're really not health regulations. You know, they're really tyrannical laws that are going to
00:19:33.440basically take away our rights and potentially throw us in camps, you know, and experiment on
00:19:38.860us in a criminal manner if we don't stand up to them. When did you first start noticing a
00:19:45.580difference? Because what you've outlined so far sounds like these guys want to follow the rules,
00:19:50.400and that's why they have these high level, very costly meetings. They want to make sure they've
00:19:55.040got all the t's crossed and the i's dotted when did this change um that's a really great question
00:20:03.740so um just like i don't recognize my country anymore especially what we went through in
00:20:09.540i mean people voluntarily through the mandates put themselves on house arrest as if we were
00:20:15.480criminals i don't recognize the industry and i can tell you shadow in 2018 because again i worked
00:20:21.120with some, I just was blessed to work with this really brilliant team. And one of my long time
00:20:28.060term colleagues, one of my first counterparts at Pfizer, you know, people have a work wife,
00:20:33.340a work husband, like they called him a work husband, you know, kind of thing. And it took
00:20:36.400completely platonic, but you know, we spent, stayed friends over the years and he was running
00:20:42.020a multi-billion division at a company that had a large cardiovascular division and they're huge
00:20:49.800in the vaccine market and he told me in 2018 he goes they're shutting down all all the all the
00:20:57.920business units he goes it's he's like they're not funding them anymore and we're going into this
00:21:02.020whole biotech space and then I heard that going on at Pfizer you know I heard that going on at
00:21:08.720um aesthetic companies you know aesthetics doesn't I mean they were saying yeah there's this new
00:21:14.520biotech stuff that we're going into and and my longtime colleagues were not they were perplexed
00:21:25.300by it they were confused by this they're like what happened to traditional medicine right what
00:21:32.020what happened to you know why are we also going into this whole biotech synthetic biology thing
00:21:38.460and i'm not far from thermal fisher so i was working with thermal fisher so biotech was
00:21:44.200always separate from our industry that was that was the stuff you did in the labs and you did in
00:21:49.020the mice right and it was just the technology that you fooled around with to come up with
00:21:55.780different products but you never played around with that technology in humans and in 2018 things
00:22:04.940started to really really change so this when I tell you this was done in the darkness and sprung
00:22:11.560upon us overnight even in the industry it was and and i think a lot of folks in the industry
00:22:17.720have no clue what they're part of at all i i really do did you see any unfamiliar faces because
00:22:26.400you know i mean you've got a lot of experience a lot of years in you know all the big players
00:22:30.800i'm assuming pfizer was an unfamiliar face they never had a vaccine before i was banking on
00:22:36.680sanofi or roche right or merck companies that have a history of doing vaccines and i was like
00:22:42.880i didn't see pfizer i had no did not see that one coming out of the gates at all not at all
00:22:49.280what i mean by that is somebody from outside the industry coming in i mean pfizer you know
00:22:58.020we know they're not a big vaccine maker at least they weren't but they were a player in
00:23:03.580the market i mean they're a huge company well i mean i'm talking about go ahead like like
00:23:10.000thermo fisher i didn't there are partners with moderna to manufacture the vaccine i mean
00:23:14.440thermo fisher manufactures quantum dots and um vitrification vitrification like a cryo
00:23:22.280electron microscopy to look at things to freeze things at the subatomic level like to i mean
00:23:27.160i was like i didn't see i didn't see that one coming in you know um modern has never been
00:23:33.900successful no one ever saw them coming up with a product ever because everything all their trials
00:23:39.280people die at the end um i guess what i'm asking though for you to look up and go hey who's that
00:23:47.100guy i've never seen him before like that kind of thing because you did work with many of these
00:23:52.460companies and you know many of the inside players their names maybe their wife or husband's name i
00:23:58.100mean and so all of a sudden were these strangers walking in no no i mean you know burla has a
00:24:05.720veterinarian background many people have veterinarian backgrounds burla is a ceo of
00:24:09.720pfizer um alex gorski was um the successor to i can't believe i can't believe i can't remember
00:24:17.420the guy's name. Gorski came from Novartis. He was the CEO of J&J. I mean, he was the CEO at
00:24:22.860Novartis prior to that. So I mean, like at the, at the executive level, no, I think the one thing
00:24:29.660I found surprising and I forgot his name was that the CEO of Merck stepped down from his position.
00:24:35.360He was the first African-American male to be CEO in the pharmaceutical industry. And he stepped
00:24:40.560down upon the announcement of Operation Warp Speed. And then Gorski resigned shortly after
00:24:49.560the J&J, when they said that some of the vials were contaminated. One of the U.S. manufacturers
00:24:59.060whistleblued on the contamination. And then Joaquin Diwato took over for Gorski. And I used to,
00:25:06.700I mean, I worked for one of Joaquin's companies years ago, so I'm not seeing a lot of new faces at the executive level.
00:25:13.460Karen, did you know when they first started talking about this mysterious virus that was wreaking havoc in Europe and China, what was coming?
00:25:24.440And I don't mean, did you know, no, I mean, did you know inside?
00:25:28.120Oh, here it comes, because you'd seen so many strange things happening the previous year.
00:25:32.860so it was i'm not afraid it was i was it was march just before they announced the shutdowns
00:25:37.600and i just i told you earlier i used to be a fitness instructor for a hobby and i was at the
00:25:42.220gym and they were talking about this virus you know and the first thing i just thought is like
00:25:47.180oh we're being set up for a vaccine rollout and so i did not see all the shutdowns and everything
00:25:53.500coming i have a funny story about the shutdowns though being on a biotech insider call that um
00:26:00.800um oh why am i blanking on his name microsoft um wichowski wichowski what's his name oh wichowski
00:26:09.380i can't remember the chubby guy from microsoft and he looks like a teddy bear he crashed the
00:26:13.720call yeah um anyway i just thought we're being set up for a vaccine rollout i didn't see the
00:26:20.920lockdowns coming i thought um all right because pharma was pretty much again everything had gone
00:26:28.360generic, but the industry was really, you know, dead on the vine. And I was like, all right,
00:26:33.800they're going to have, like I said, Sanofi or Merck or someone's going to, a couple of guys
00:26:38.560are going to roll out with the vaccine. And I thought the earliest that they were going to
00:26:42.220come out with the vaccine was that they would announce in January, 2023, when the vaccines
00:26:48.240would be available. Cause you know, it would take the two years to get the data that then
00:26:53.720finally yeah and so um i did not see this coming you know and the two weeks to slow the curve
00:27:03.360i was like this seems really ridiculous and silly you know um but for what's the what we talked
00:27:13.200about this shadow what was weird is why did america go along with it like we typically are
00:27:19.380not that obedient, you know, and submissive. So that was the strange thing is, I was going with
00:27:28.460my son down to the beach trying to like, go to surfing protests and stuff at the beach in
00:27:34.780California, where it's sunny and upper 70s, lower 80s, every day, right? It never changes. And I
00:27:42.620had friends on Facebook and social media and people who had no idea what I did, they thought
00:27:46.460I was just their fitness instructor, freaking out about how I'm jeopardizing the health of
00:27:52.120everybody because I'm going to the beach with my son. And why can't you wait for the lockdowns to
00:27:56.660end? And they ended up putting barbed wire on the beaches so we wouldn't go. And then they had
00:28:01.560police patrolling them. And it was just, I was like, the world's lost its mind. And then what
00:28:07.400was more strange was I knew people in the biotech industry, like Thermo Fisher and AGC Biologics and
00:28:13.880twist bioscience and they all seem to believe that this was some natural bat coronavirus and
00:28:20.860I'm like you all know because you all work in the lab that you mess around with genetic material
00:28:28.500from different species and put it together and then you stick it in the mice and you go let's
00:28:33.200see what's going to happen like y'all do that I sit there listening to you talk about it all the time
00:28:38.980you know i uh you're right it's absolutely mind-blowing that these people
00:28:52.480were taken for a ride unless they're the best actors in the world you know when this first
00:28:58.080came out and they said two weeks to flatten the curve like you just said i went okay this is
00:29:03.400ridiculous two weeks to flatten the curve if this is that big a killer virus two weeks that's the
00:29:09.200stupidest thing I've ever heard but then they started talking about this vaccine it was kind
00:29:14.480of in the back pages of the news and so I went and said they can't create a vaccine that fast
00:29:20.300especially for something like this I mean it's like the common cold a lot of the cold viruses
00:29:24.560are coronaviruses right so I went and looked for the fastest vaccine ever created that was in the
00:29:30.1401960s i think it was for the mumps and it was four to five years and i and that was fast using
00:29:36.720the older technology yeah to use a new technology a new new delivery system and a completely
00:29:44.160different way of going about it you would think would take them 15 to 20 years and yet miraculously
00:29:49.600with operation warp speed eight months was it yeah it was eight months yeah and i'm and i'm going
00:29:58.620no no no no whatever this is they're going to be injecting into people is going to be either
00:30:05.120mostly saline or absolute garbage or something else yeah so when you go on go ahead no no you
00:30:14.600go on well it what it is it's cart it's chimeric antigen uh receptor t-cell therapy in packaged up
00:30:22.140in a lipid now particle so that means it's it's a gene editing technology that um edits in foreign
00:30:28.260DNA into the nucleus of human cells. And normally CAR T cell therapy was done outside the body. So
00:30:34.420you would extract someone's T cells, you know, their white blood cells and whatnot, and you
00:30:39.340would expose them to different agents so that you could penetrate the cellular wall and get new
00:30:49.700DNA or antigens in those cells. And then you re-inject them in the body. And it was not,
00:30:56.000It's usually end-stage cancer or very rare, bizarre autoimmune diseases where people only
00:31:01.420have a few weeks or months left to live.
00:31:04.840And then Moderna was able to put basically CAR-T cell therapy, and it's much more complicated
00:31:10.140than that, even though you guys think it sounds complicated already, but the gene editing
00:31:14.420technology, mRNA, so to do the gene editing inside the cell, inside the animal.
00:31:19.620So they had the lipid nanoparticle technology that could deliver basically CRISPR-Cas9 and
00:31:25.860mRNA, foreign genetic codons into animal cells inside the animal. Well, we are the animal. Now,
00:31:33.460you go back and you watch the TED Talk, and it's actually a device. So it's a program device to
00:31:39.640reprogram human cells. So Tails Axe is a former chief scientific officer at Moderna. And he's
00:31:46.660telling a story about mRNA, right, and how it's the software of life and how it's a program.
00:31:51.560and he tells a story about this little child timmy and he only has a few couple weeks left
00:31:57.320to live so they use their mrna technology on him to give him a chance at life and then timmy dies
00:32:04.340in the end because all the patients die in the end like there's no good stories from this technology
00:32:10.460so they used it in cancer so that the cancer cells would present with foreign genetic material
00:32:46.020like gold is in there we know these are gold nanoparticles and now we know about graphene
00:32:50.560oxide but specifically gold and cancer they would do an external electromagnetic field you know an
00:32:56.760energy field that would then activate the gold in the nanoparticles which were in the cells in the
00:33:01.540cancer tumor and then that would annihilate that would then kill all the cells and the tumor around
00:33:05.600it so it's meant to it's a destructive technology it's it doesn't make any sense why they would
00:33:12.580ever use it for an infectious disease at all at all i've heard you mention self-assembling
00:33:21.300technology i want to get to that in a little while we'll talk about artificial intelligence but
00:33:25.520were you working for one of these companies and asked to go over the details of these technologies
00:33:33.340or did you happen across this information in another way um so there's an overlap there
00:33:42.220A long-term colleague of mine was on the Operation Warp Speed Task Force.
00:33:50.320And so he was continually sending me information to look at for these startup companies that were trying to get funding, you know, and in on the authorization.
00:34:02.440And we never ended up, I never consulted with any of them.
00:34:05.620and also one of the largest west coast agencies was asking me i was interviewing with them to
00:34:12.900be president because they wanted to get into this mrna technology now so i was looking at this stuff
00:34:20.240originally viably as a consultant or running um again running a west coast agency because everyone
00:34:28.440was going into mrna that was just it and i as i was interviewing with the agency and researching
00:34:34.340the mRNA more, I was like, I don't know how I feel about this. And they were doing all this
00:34:40.780market research on how to, before the vaccines were even available on how to encourage, or they
00:34:46.940just become, before they were approved, they were just authorized, how to, you know, encourage or,
00:34:52.260you know, manipulate people into getting these injections. So I had a bad feeling about it,
00:34:59.220but I didn't, and I turned down that job. I knew I couldn't do that.
00:35:03.760My mother was furious with me because it pays well to run an agency.
00:35:10.360But then I was still looking at my, my friends sending me the technology and,
00:35:14.200and I just, everything was nano devices and nanomaterials.
00:35:19.240And, and when they announced that they were going to authorize it for the
00:35:24.000children, it was like, God put an anchor around my neck.
00:35:28.180Like it's literally the book of Matthew that, you know, cause one of these little ones to stumble that are a millstone around your neck and you're drowned to the deepest level of the sea.
00:35:38.160And he put on my heart to really look into this the same way I would for like a six or seven figure client.
00:35:44.640And I wasn't obedient. I said, no, I didn't. I had seen enough to know that I didn't want to see any more.
00:35:51.120And I, you know, like Jonah, I got a one way ticket not to Nineveh.
00:35:56.120I mean, I actually, you know, went on holiday to my favorite place and I was just crying where I was.
00:36:01.560And I ended up asking people at the place I was to go buy me a printer from Staples.
00:36:07.840And I went and I downloaded the phase three data from Pfizer.
00:36:11.500This was in May 2021. And it was horrifying.
00:36:14.620And I know because I used to work, you know, on launching products.
00:36:17.880So I know how they can go through and cherry pick data.
00:36:19.840but this was 409 people became severely ill or hospitalized or died within one week of the first
00:36:27.060or second dose. Nearly 1,600 people came down with COVID, just in the phase three data. This
00:36:33.080wasn't covered up, came down with COVID. They said that we had thought that children weren't
00:36:39.600involved in the studies until sometime in 2021. No, there were thousands of them in the first
00:36:45.300study when they authorized it for 16 and older. They said that we put 100 kids. They said the
00:36:50.300risk-benefit ratio is not favorable at this time. So they knew it was harming kids. So then they
00:36:56.560came up with a new method on how to assess efficacy. They said in these filings, that's
00:37:02.280impossible to promote the vaccine. That's going to be more safer or effective than a child's
00:37:05.820natural immune system. And there was a 17-year-old teenager that fell over and they broke part of
00:37:13.360their face and their skull. This was all in the, this was, this is not FOIA. This was public
00:37:18.420information. And, um, and then I went back and looked at, um, the patents and they did not read
00:37:26.880as a vaccine. Um, they read as a, um, a biosynthetic device that could cross into the
00:37:36.820reproductive system, the blood-brain barrier, cardiovascular system, nervous system, and
00:37:43.220I specifically noted the blood-brain barrier, because it was way one too many times that
00:37:47.820they mentioned this technology going into a blood-brain barrier, so they didn't read
00:45:38.320And by now you have had time to look into this, and I know that you don't have the answers per se, but I'm definitely interested in your opinion on this, having worked with these pharmaceutical companies for so long.
00:45:52.540Oh, well, the pharma companies, so the CDC in 2020 put out their COVID-19 roadmap.
00:46:03.060All the top pharma companies are in there, I mean, the top 50.
00:46:05.980So, and then there's, you can buy a market research report on lipid nanoparticle technology.
00:46:12.440And again, all top 50 guys, they're all in on this new technology.
00:46:35.600So, um, so that was, you know, but I don't think people actually work at the companies
00:46:40.760again, if you work in biotech, that's, that's different, but if you work in pharma, this
00:46:45.400is so, this is such a complicated field.
00:46:48.260I think a lot of people have no clue what they're doing and they don't even, you know,
00:46:53.260they think a lipid nanoparticle, they actually think that it's like cholesterol.
00:46:56.840They don't, they're like, you're like, no, sweetheart, polyethylene glycol is not cholesterol.
00:47:01.440It just, they call it a lipid because the word engineered nanotechnology sounds scary, but lipid sounds a lot better, right? And because it can be masked as a lipid with the polyethylene glycol. That's why they call it that. So people just don't understand the information and they don't know what they're doing.
00:47:19.480But I think what the reason why these products are available is because we were all played against one another.
00:47:26.460And, you know, there's a reason why in Second Timothy, it says the love of money is the root of all evil, you know, causing man to turn from his faith and pierce his heart with deep sorrow.
00:47:35.420Because the financial incentives to the medical practitioners are obscene.
00:47:42.100It's racketeering. I exposed on my sub stack the other day, too, that Anthony Fauci was using his NIH grant database.
00:47:51.780The medical expert that was in charge of the San Diego mandates for our schools received four million dollars from Fauci through UC San Diego.
00:48:00.420And he worked at the Department for Infectious Disease. He wasn't the head of the department, you know, over a three year period.
00:48:06.380it, you know? And so, so there was all this racketeering going on. There's no better word
00:48:12.000for it. And then everyone was told, well, because it's an emergency, you know, you know, there's a
00:48:18.880gray area, you know, people die, just don't worry about it. You actually will give you a bonus for
00:48:23.720people that die in the hospital, you know, we'll give you bonuses. We'll pay you 10 times more if
00:48:29.680you can get the shots in the kids and if you get them in the adults. I mean, I just made that number
00:48:33.760but um it was it was straight up bribery and racketeering and i didn't realize um i had no
00:48:40.720clue that people it's nothing to them to harm another human being life if they're getting paid
00:48:47.360why would this be about money and and i understand where you're coming from i mean
00:48:52.520everybody always says follow the money but if we're going to talk about artificial intelligence
00:48:58.120and programmable nanodevices being injected into people's bodies,
00:49:05.640that goes further than just a love of money or greed
00:49:09.840or wanting to be the richest person on the planet.
00:49:12.140That goes to wanting to control everything on the planet.
00:49:16.420And you have done a great deal of work in exposing all of that as well.
00:49:22.400When we talk about all of the ingredients in this bioweapon,
00:49:47.920Meaning all of the top executives at the pharmaceutical companies, all of the doctors, all of the university researchers, scientists, everybody.
00:49:57.640by an unknown as yet unknown entity because of world control we're talking about
00:50:03.400programmable things graphene oxide whatnot self-assembling technology as you've pointed
00:50:10.540out in the past that are being injected into people here that could be somehow lit up with
00:50:17.760a 5g signal or something else uh whenever they decide they want to do that that sounds to me
00:50:25.340more like world control than anything else and maybe i'm going down too deep down a rabbit hole
00:50:30.240here no no i mean that that's i mean it is for it's going to cause disease disabilities and
00:50:39.200death and i did an interview with steve peters on one of the patents where it's an obedience
00:50:43.040platform so if you're not obedient and you're not going to be basically uh controlled by this
00:50:48.720technology then they can use it as an execution platform right so it's one or the other it's
00:50:54.000either enslavement or execution, that's where it's going. But, you know, saying we're people
00:50:58.780blindsided. I mean, Albert Berla, let's face it, he's constantly hanging out with Charles Schwab
00:51:03.680from the World Economic Forum. So obviously the CEO of Pfizer knows what's going on. And
00:51:09.080I believe mostly most C-level executives know what's going on. I don't think that they're
00:51:16.040naively doing this. And I think some of them probably believe they didn't have a choice.
00:51:22.360and that's what fear does to you um you know you you know god's not giving you the spirit of fear
00:51:28.360but a power love and a sound mind but because people didn't recognize the evil in the world
00:51:32.700so let's put yourself in a c-level pharma guy who actually let's say for the most part was always a
00:51:39.200good guy let's just say you know Alex Gorski from J&J and then all of a sudden you're told
00:51:44.000this is what the entire industry is doing um this is the technology we're going to be rolling it
00:51:48.880out in vaccines. We're going to be putting it in your pills. We're going to be basically destroying
00:51:52.840the entire industry and moving over to synthetic biology. And we're going to tell people that these
00:51:59.020are vaccines or prescriptions and not the whole story. And the entire industry is doing it. And
00:52:04.660if you don't do it, not only are you going to lose your job, but we're going to go after you and your
00:52:08.800family. So that's the kind of pressure that people have put on them. I'm just being honest, right?
00:52:14.520And you don't know how you're going to respond to fear and evil until you face it.
00:52:19.800So, you know, I mean, I have to forgive people who have me set up to be at events or, you know, complete strangers.
00:52:30.340You know, it's nothing. You know, I go to a place.
00:52:32.580Someone gets paid to say, go put this in that woman's drink or in her food.
00:52:37.500So, you know, people don't know how they're going to respond until they're actually put in that situation.
00:52:43.400And I guess what I was alarmed at is the breadth and the depth of the reach of this evil, you know, that there are there are it's not three thousand people.
00:52:55.440It's not a few hundred thousand. There are millions of people who are networked, who are nihilist, you know, and they actually do want to see the destruction of humanity.
00:53:09.740and they're very organized and lockstep, obviously,
00:53:14.580because this stuff has all been going along and lockstep.
00:53:17.400And those that objected to their mission
00:53:20.620have been removed from many places of power,
01:08:46.660I mean, they've got all of these walking, talking human experiments out there with all of this nanotechnology, this mRNA, all of this DNA inside of them.
01:08:59.700They must be looking for some data from these people at some point.
01:09:03.560Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, Israel, I mean, Netanyahu said he gave over all of his civilians, you know, all of his Israelis for the experiment because they have a whole digital medical ID system and tracking and everything.
01:09:19.480So, you know, I don't know what they've been submitted to in Israel as far as data.
01:09:26.080You know, I know the PCR testing was, you know, one, it was for inoculation, two, it
01:09:33.100So they were testing to see whether or not, you know, the integration of this foreign
01:09:38.200DNA and this inorganic material was occurring, you know, I know in American citizens and
01:09:44.520in our children, that's why they were making that mandatory testing at the kids' schools
01:09:48.740for once or twice a week, they were trying to inoculate them with this technology and see how
01:09:53.680long it took, you know, versus doing the swabbing versus getting injections. So that data is, you
01:10:00.060know, isn't the genetic data is in an open source NIH database. And I forgot the name of the
01:10:06.040database. So at least for the United States, it is. And, and then in regards to like serious adverse
01:10:12.860events. You know, Pfizer reported internally, but based on reports that came in from,
01:10:22.420you know, so when you, when you're, when you're the corporate owner of a brand name, you know,
01:10:28.760let's say it's Comirnaty or whatever. A lot of times patients will call the manufacturer directly
01:10:34.980to report serious adverse events and they have a responsibility to record that. So Pfizer recorded
01:10:40.7401.5 million people and they had 5 million serious adverse events across the 1.5 million people. So
01:10:47.720on average, you've got three or four adverse events and the neurological effects were the
01:10:52.320most damaging. There's something called V-safe that the CDC rolled out, which was the first
01:10:58.480people, the first 10 million people basically got the shots. And they found 4 million people
01:11:03.300couldn't perform their daily tasks the next day. So they couldn't go to work. They couldn't go to
01:11:07.480school a stay-at-home mom couldn't take care of her kids and um a significant percentage of them
01:11:13.060um i think like over a million of them uh couldn't even couldn't perform their tasks for three days
01:11:19.720so the whole reason why you have an employee vaccine mandate is so people aren't out sick
01:11:23.380now meanwhile people are going to be out for at least three days from a week after they get the
01:11:27.280shot so a couple of years ago people were talking about they were showing videos all over social
01:11:33.080media with the magnets remember that yeah and um i'm not sure what that was all about if it was
01:11:39.180people playing tricks or if it was actually happening uh but then there was one video i
01:11:43.880saw that kind of alarmed me and that video was about 5g signals and being able to pick them up
01:11:51.420through wi-fi guy was walking around with his phone and he was looking for wi-fi signals and
01:11:56.400He said that he got like 40 in this one area where there should only be two actual Wi-Fi signals.
01:12:03.860And he was at a backyard party where there were all these vaccinated people with him and they were all emanating, I guess, according to this guy.
01:12:13.300Wi-Fi. Do you think that is even possible?
01:12:15.780Is that something that they were trying to to accomplish with this, with all of the different materials in these shots?
01:12:21.160yeah i mean um so the neural lace neural link technology you know it's way far they're developed
01:12:30.660and people think it is so that's part of what's in the shots is the um these electromagnetic
01:12:37.660networks right and they give off a bluetooth signal uh and they're controllable and they're
01:12:43.500they're meant to go to into the blood brain barrier they're meant to go to the brain
01:12:47.900um and the that's why you see the number one side effect which people don't realize is actually
01:12:56.080attacking of the myelin sheath of your nerve cells so the outer line of nerve cells is the
01:13:01.040number one side effect um people may experience it as fatigue and grogginess and whatnot but it's
01:13:06.680it's inner it's creating a new neural network basically and so that's way farther advanced
01:13:12.800than people think it is. And then there's, um, a master patent that's out of, um, uh, Arab Emirates
01:13:21.280and Israel and the United States. And, um, it's, I think it's called testing prioritization for
01:13:28.520COVID-19 vaccination or something like that. And it explains how, and they list, they said every,
01:13:34.340every COVID-19 vaccine that's, um, recommended by the world health organization. And they list
01:13:39.860more than 50 vaccines out and then they give the url to the wl health organization say
01:13:45.640that um all vaccines will come with this technology with a kit and they all will
01:13:50.980generate their own bluetooth signal it's in their patent so um and it explains how that bluetooth
01:13:58.660signal can then be controlled by an external source like a cell phone or an external satellite
01:14:05.560light so just like you can turn your television on and off you know using your phone um uh they
01:14:12.400can send signals from your phone to you um it'll it'll identify who you are and you know the ID
01:14:18.300and um you know the same the same quantum dots so Thermo Fisher actually manufactures quantum dots
01:14:25.540for use for use in animals originally for tracking them and for creating um identifiers
01:14:32.400So literally Bluetooth identifiers using quantum dot at the cellular level in an animal, at the organ level or at the individual animal level.
01:14:42.020And they have a patent on that going back to 2012 when they were like technologies.
01:14:47.240Is it possible for them to program a human being or to give a human being orders through this technology?
01:14:56.640So what are we early when we first started talking about the nanoparticles, right?
01:15:01.400FDA documents, like they can send at a minimum, they can send electromagnetic frequencies
01:15:08.640to activate radiation in the body to cause harm to the tissues in the cells.
01:15:15.500According to Pfizer's website, they can send electronic signals to make, turn your cells
01:15:20.600into drug manufacturing factories. So they can reprogram your cell to start producing
01:15:27.680some new multi-species thing, a majig or whatever, like they can, so that's what Pfizer says on
01:15:34.200their website. Um, and then the idea with neural link and neural lace, you know, um, ultimately
01:15:41.400is, um, we know electromagnetic frequencies. We know something called Havana syndrome,
01:15:47.600um, that happened with us embassy. Um, and I think even some senators and whatnot in Cuba,
01:15:54.500It's called Havana syndrome, where they got hit with electromagnetic frequencies and they
01:15:59.540suffer debilitating disabilities, you know, and fatigue and brain fog.
01:16:05.460So I wouldn't call it like complete control, but it can certainly influence your emotions.
01:16:11.980And if your emotions are influenced, so like, for example, if you're exposed to neurotoxins
01:16:18.680or electromagnetic frequencies that are activating your amygdala and you're in constant state
01:16:24.320of, uh, flight, then you don't have executive function anymore. You can't make rational decisions.
01:16:32.920Shedding a thing. Yeah. The FDA has a document on it. It's the 2015 shedding of viral gene-based
01:16:42.100therapies and oncology products. Like that's the title of it. So this is a viral gene-based therapy.
01:16:49.100I mean, and they go through shedding and they go through the fact that, you know, you have to do quarantine strategies with the mice first.
01:16:58.580Right. So if you're going to if you're going to have you're going to inject someone with a protein based therapy that's going to produce a viral protein DNA material,
01:17:09.740then you have to do it in the mice and then see if that mouse infects his other mice around him.
01:17:16.160And then if he doesn't, then you have to do it in humans and come up with quarantine strategies, you know, because you have to make sure that if someone is injected, that they're not around a pregnant woman, that they're not around a young child, that they're not around even a man of childbearing age.
01:17:33.420right? So these are all in their guidelines. And it's in Pfizer's initial new drug application
01:17:38.600that if you're in the study, you can't be pregnant, you can't get pregnant, you can't be
01:17:43.440around a pregnant woman, you can't be around a man that's going to be around a woman who could
01:17:48.080potentially get pregnant. So those are the quarantine strategies that are so, so they all
01:17:54.120know darn well shedding is a real thing. I mean, it's, it's not, it's definitely not not a thing.
01:18:01.020And it's this this virus was not airborne. It was aerosolized originally because the nanoparticles of their own organisms and they because they have the inorganic material, you know, they last for a long time on surfaces.
01:18:15.380And this is all the peer reviewed publications, you know, and John Hopkins talks about this and the American Medical Association.
01:18:21.620And they're like, this virus lasts for a surprisingly long time on surfaces because it's not a biological virus.
01:18:27.120That's like you get you get an avocado appeal from Bill Gates.
01:18:30.920You're like, I've had this in my fridge for a year.
01:18:33.780It hasn't it hasn't molded or gone bad because it's not it's not a real avocado.
01:19:12.160So the other thing is, again, so I think in the pharma industry, it's my understanding we were all caught by surprise.
01:19:22.340Like, I mean, I was in and I think there's a lot of group think and willful ignorance when you're, you know, I'm not the typical person.
01:19:31.720Like, you don't want me to participate in a market research study.
01:19:34.800I will skill your results like off the charts.
01:19:37.360It's not, you know, my brain obviously works different than than than other people.
01:19:44.860But I think the farm industry was caught off guard. But that being said, biotech and synthetic biology, they think this is a good thing.
01:19:52.780You know, I sat in on some sin bio conferences where, you know, they talk about the regenerated agriculture and cultivated meat.
01:20:03.480So cultivated meats made in a lab, and they use animal embryonic cells, it could be human cells as starter nutrients. And, and then they, you know, add the genetic material from and tissue, you know, from, let's say a steak, you know, and then they they say they add other nutrients, but they don't, it's not like they're adding just vitamin B and C and, you know, you know, some protein to it.
01:20:29.600you know they're adding other non-cattle species stuff to it like insect dna or parasite dna um
01:20:39.480and cricket yeah crickets um yeah there's they're doing this weird stuff with they want to introduce
01:20:47.260cockroach dna to humans so that we'll be immune to um a nuclear fallout it's like you know so i i
01:20:55.280don't yeah i was like why don't we just like the island of dr moreau over here now they're
01:21:00.520gonna have a bunch of different like hybrids running around but i'd say i mean give us a
01:21:05.100choice i mean i'd rather keith richards dna than cockroaches there's a joke that keith richards
01:21:12.020would survive a nuclear fallout but anyway yeah yeah but they they're they're not you know they
01:21:19.780they have to work on messaging and then when they went to farmers about regenerative farming which
01:21:26.060is you can have plants without water and you know you grow corn without sunlight and and the farmers
01:21:34.180are all like no way absolutely not because it's not that's not it that's plant food but it's no
01:21:40.780longer a plant it's a different species and so what i was saying to you earlier is there's no way
01:21:46.720a man's mind was able to come up with these what they're called the codons the genetic sequences
01:21:53.540from these different species and marry up so many different species without them being rejected and
01:21:58.960just not viable um this is all done by ai all the mrna sequences are done by ai it's in the darpa
01:22:07.640pitch to eco health alliance it's in moderna's documents so artificial intelligence is reprogramming
01:22:14.460all biological life form and as i was saying earlier you know um it's my understanding ai
01:22:19.860was first developed by the department of defense you know and who knows what was going on in the
01:22:24.120uk and other parts of the world china at that time um in the 1950s now if these global elites are
01:22:32.020true nihilists and when you listen to them they are i mean you all know harari does he said free
01:22:38.060will that's over you know um elon musk says what did uh what did musk say about george soros on the
01:22:45.240on the joe rogan podcast he said you know i he's pretty old now soros but i don't think he likes
01:22:50.940humanity at all right we talked about these guys growing up with a bad childhood and because of
01:22:55.800that they they hate everybody they grow powerful and they want to destroy the whole thing like that
01:23:01.560like they want to say god yeah yeah maybe so so if so if they programmed ai to destroy humanity
01:23:10.580and i think that's why there is this you know as christians we know what's most sacred to god is
01:23:16.800is the children and babies right so that's the the pro the pro abortion the pro um child sacrifice
01:23:25.720that stuff does happen but if they you know really wanted to get back at god they would
01:23:30.960destroy his greatest creation, you know, which is humanity. So if you programmed AI to do that,
01:23:35.620AI would go, wouldn't just be making an mRNA, what we're calling mRNA, this genetic technology
01:23:41.280for humans, it would destroy the entire environment that humans depend on. So we would want to
01:23:46.300reprogram all biological life form as we know it, and decrease oxygen levels. And in fact,
01:23:51.780they've done that. So some of the gene editing technology, CRISPR-Cas9, that they're using with
01:23:58.100nanoparticles on the plants the plants are during the photosynthesis process they're hijacking
01:24:02.980those uh the genes for those cells they're not producing oxygen anymore they're producing
01:24:09.000ammonia or they're producing um some other chimeric output so they're decreasing oxygen
01:24:14.640levels that way um and and this is where the climate uh catastrophe nonsense comes in too
01:24:21.020right oh we've got too much carbon in the air well dude that's what the air is made up of
01:24:25.440Yeah, because the trees recycle it. But now they're having the trees instead of recycling the carbon into, you know, sugar and oxygen, it's going to be, it's going to, it's reducing whatever else they're programming it to produce.
01:24:41.220So I think it's a really nihilist program.
01:24:45.440And like we were saying, too, it had to be AI deployed because I actually had an aha moment before when we were talking about why did America go along with this?
01:24:55.800It's like, well, because they know, one, that people want to go along with get along to go along.
01:25:02.940But most importantly, what do we care about?
01:25:07.120And you all know how already says this money drives our behavior.
01:25:10.560It's like giving a dog a treat. Right. So so Congress had actually the whole CARES Act set up in January of 2021 or 2020 to deploy.
01:25:21.280So they just gave out unemployment and these huge you don't have to pay these loans back to all the businesses, to everybody so that people weren't complaining about money.
01:25:31.480Because if they hadn't given Americans all that money, then I guarantee nobody would have gone along with this.
01:25:37.840But they literally just paid out all this money to people.
01:25:42.200So everyone's like, OK, I guess I'm fine because I can put food on my table.
01:25:46.260So we'll go along with this. But it was a horrible idea.
01:25:50.700And and I think because we had social media, so you could people could tell on each other or say, I got my mask or I got my vaccine.
01:25:58.260So you'd be part of the group thing and you didn't want to descend from it, you know, just be a dissident from it.
01:26:03.740I think it was very well. Again, I don't think a human mind could have planned out this global strategy. I think AI did. And I even saw a document AI like went through and redid the phase three data for the vaccines, you know, on how to present it. I don't know if that's true.
01:26:22.520um interesting you say that because i i watched after our conversation the other day i went
01:26:29.300looking for some stuff by harari and he was talking about the merger of uh human beings
01:26:36.760and technology and this was back in 2018 this conversation that he had and i thought wow five
01:26:45.940years that you know i mean five years technology has been moving very quickly for these past 25
01:26:50.420or 30 years what have they accomplished in the past five years the first thing that comes to my
01:26:57.900mind when we start talking about this transhumanism and this merger between and it's even on the you
01:27:02.580know i mean we've got this website in canada it's called horizons.ca and they talk about it
01:27:07.460on the government website i have been mentioning this for the last two or three years right they
01:27:12.980were talking about a merger between human beings and technology but you can't really say when when
01:27:20.100they say merger you can't really say well what does that mean they're going to try and implant
01:27:23.380us with things even though they are maybe they're injecting us with things and then now you think if
01:27:28.620you're talking about ai being the ones or the thing that is responsible behind this and i don't
01:27:34.960disagree with you i mean there's no way that all of these government bodies would have been able
01:27:40.480to work together in such great lockstep without something like that i mean they're that absolutely
01:27:46.120would have had to have been their driving force but has it merged with humanity people keep saying
01:27:53.960um there's certain videos of of these world leaders biden trudeau formerly boris johnson
01:28:01.880where you see their eyes flash weirdly and i think well that's just a camera glitch or some
01:28:06.960kind of a weird light thing but maybe it's not like as long as we're down this rabbit hole karen
01:28:13.040what about it yeah i've read your canadian website on the it's called the bio digital
01:28:18.060convergence right so canada's very open about it and um so these world leaders um even jared
01:28:27.700kushner you know former president trump's son-in-law talked about how eventually you know
01:28:33.480his generation can live forever once once they merge with artificial intelligence and elon musk
01:28:38.760talks about this too so um again people don't understand nanotechnology so they're like well
01:28:45.820if there was technology in the vials i'd see it you're you're like you don't understand how small
01:28:50.780it is you know it you don't you don't you cannot see it um and they don't understand that people
01:28:57.040have already been exposed to this bio digital convergence because again what we're calling
01:29:01.360spike proteins it's a new it's it's genetic material from from non-human dna merged with
01:29:07.640human DNA and then merge with inorganic material like gold. And it's, once it gets into a host,
01:29:13.620again, the reason why it's vitrified, just like a woman's eggs is, is because it's a viable
01:29:18.160organism. It's a new life form. It's a new biodigital life form. So there, and then the
01:29:24.480neural link, neural lace, um, technology is, you know, you look at the patents, it is injectable
01:29:31.280like into the arm and it's programmed to go to the blood brain barrier within 30 minutes and
01:29:36.460self-assembling technology so the point it doesn't so the way elon musk describes it as if there's
01:29:42.820like a another receiver put on top of the brain that's not how it works it actually goes and
01:29:48.840integrates into the nerve cells and the synapses within the human brain and um it it absorbs and
01:29:55.460merges this new genetic material that's also got metals in it and it merges the technology into
01:30:02.980the cells of the brain so it was meant to cross the blood brain barrier wasn't it
01:30:07.940it was always meant to cross the blood brain barrier they they were thrilled when people
01:30:13.560were reporting the loss of sense of taste and smell because again that's your olfactory nerve
01:30:18.280so that was again one of the number one signs of covid19 they were like yes it's working um
01:30:26.100because that showed that it was attacking the nerve cells it was shutting off signals
01:30:30.920the olfactory nerve is for smell and taste so it was showing that just when
01:30:36.540they were aerosolizing you know or doing surface transmission but especially
01:30:42.020you know aerosolizing this was going straight to the olfactory nerves so that
01:30:45.360that was a good sign of the bioweapon before it got injected and then once
01:30:51.040sergeant Murphy said from when he worked at the Marines he found an equal
01:30:54.760alliance to DARPA he goes look COVID-19 was an aerosolized bioweapon and once
01:31:00.120it's injected into someone's body, their immune system doesn't really stand a chance to fight
01:31:04.700against it, right? Because you're injecting it directly into the bloodstream. So it's important
01:31:12.180to just not get any more shots. And also, I want people to know, like, I found in a patent that
01:31:17.220they used EDTA chelation or EDTA solution to stop this technology to stay it or reverse it.
01:31:23.800And I did an interview with Mike Adams, Dr. Anil Mahalchia, and I know other doctors around America,
01:31:29.280they're using edta and it it does it does stop the technology um i know i don't know the exact
01:31:36.280mechanism action i just know i read it in one of the hydrogel um patents that it it stops the
01:31:43.660development of it and stays it so and zeolite does too so back to the beginning of these shots
01:31:50.460the more of these things we have in us the more technology we'll have in us and and the more
01:31:55.360borg-like will become you will be assimilated uh all of that stuff back to the star trek
01:32:00.600conversation well yeah or or you're gonna be you can be um your emotions can be influenced right
01:32:08.220so if you're not you anymore are you with this new yeah that's you're not you anymore
01:32:13.380but there is like what was that stuff called again that you were talking about just now
01:32:20.020edta chelation uh and zeolite so i mean we might as well go into the people i think might know that
01:32:26.880i was targeted right now i want to get into that right so let's do that yeah oh okay yeah so i was
01:32:33.820you know i couldn't um so i had been poisoned you know early on and i it's on my sub stack people
01:32:42.580can read about it and i didn't really freak out that much about it you know before um i just knew
01:32:48.640I was, this was my life now. Right. And so I just was constantly getting EDTA and whatnot. And,
01:32:54.700and I have been, you know, warned about, like, don't talk about the nanotechnology. And they're
01:33:03.060like, you're going to make everyone sound crazy. And I was like, well, if I sound crazy, then why
01:33:06.460do you care? Like, like, let me, you know, whatever. And then I, you know, I really,
01:33:14.580um, Pfizer, I know, I don't want to have the discussion. I'm going to, I'm going to write
01:33:20.140more subsects. Pfizer doesn't have immunity. The, um, the, the PrEP Act holds no, no water in the
01:33:26.560United States. So, um, so that was another thing I was talking about. And, and then, you know,
01:33:31.740because I wasn't getting anywhere with senators and AGs and surgeon generals and whatever,
01:33:36.780I just started working locally with people, um, and getting them to give, I gave them the
01:33:42.680vernacular, this meets the definition of a bioweapon and the laws that they met by the
01:33:48.300state level and the federal level. No, I didn't start there. I started with contamination back
01:33:52.100in 2021. I started with plasma DNA contamination. And so I eventually got to this point saying,
01:33:59.060look, these are by definition a weapon because they don't prevent infection. They don't protect
01:34:03.840against disease. They were not done under bona fide research. And they're not for peaceful
01:34:08.280purposes, meaning that they've caused harm. So just like police officers seized Tylenol in the
01:34:14.9801980s, I was saying police should seize this. And I was reminding Americans of the authority that
01:34:21.440they have, that like you actually, you don't have to wait for permission to get authority, right?
01:34:27.100There's a thing called mass formation psychosis. And we all look at the other side is, oh, they
01:34:32.120have mass formation psychosis, don't wear two masks, don't wear one mask, wear two. And we're
01:34:37.560sitting here knowing that these injections have no benefit. They can only cause disease disabilities
01:34:42.780and death. They are horrific for children. The FDA has been very open about the fact that they
01:34:47.500would never find anything that would be beneficial to children. And they say even once you get two
01:34:54.280shots, your chance of becoming sick increases over time. So they're saying this and we're saying
01:34:59.740there's nothing we can do because we're being told, oh, Pfizer has immunity. They're hiding
01:35:05.060behind the DOD. We're being told all these stories, right? So we're waiting for permission
01:35:09.800to exercise our authority. And again, God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power.
01:35:15.120That's our authority, love, compassion. We know darn well how to take care of ourselves and our
01:35:20.080community and our loved ones and a sound mind, a wise counseled mind. So I think maybe that was
01:35:28.140what poked the devil himself was when i got counties across florida and you know um idaho
01:35:35.340you know they were following my work and my messaging and i think where i poked the devil
01:35:40.940was when i gave people the words to articulate the crimes that happened to them and the words
01:35:45.180to articulate their authority and um so i was exposed to i believe an aerosolized toxin when i
01:35:53.740I was, you know, in the state of Florida and I think it was a neurotoxin.
01:35:58.100I came back to San Diego at a series of events.
01:38:26.620I didn't think it was that bad, by the way.
01:38:28.600I think you're being a little bit hard on yourself.
01:38:30.540I didn't think it was that horrible at all.
01:38:32.100I mean, I thought, wow, I mean, this woman is terrified and you have every right to be at that.
01:38:37.380Well, then what happened was my son and my family, I didn't know that people were going to entangle them into this.
01:38:45.420And. A couple of things that are public information, some things aren't, but like, you know, my son was instructed to make videos.
01:38:54.220one of the videos was diagnosed diagnosing me and um and then that was blasted out by a very
01:39:00.740top person in the movement two million people you know and this person has said they've worked
01:39:05.980with the CIA and I was like and you blasted a video of my son out like it didn't help the
01:39:10.320situation so um I came I came home so I came home because of that so my family my family knew I told
01:39:22.320my family, you're not going to hear from me for days at a time. They knew I was not a missing
01:39:26.200person. They knew I was what I was doing. They knew I, I, I was in danger. Um, and that missing
01:39:35.120person report was, uh, it was a complete debacle. It just, I mean, it just put, it literally just
01:39:41.600put me on like, uh, the cartels list. So it was a bad idea, you know, so there was a lot in danger.
01:39:47.680yeah no when i came back um i was told if i just kind of shut up and go find something else to do
01:39:53.880they'll leave me alone and my loved ones alone and they just didn't so i just um you know when i
01:40:02.300when i was um out of the country i was constantly reading the book of joshua chapter one i texted it
01:40:07.620to you which you know you know god said be brave and very courageous do not stray from my commandments
01:40:13.100to the left or to the right, you know, and I will not forsake you. You'll be prosperous from what
01:40:18.360you do. Be brave and very courageous. So I prayed that. I prayed from the book of Psalms. I went
01:40:23.920back and wrote out the 10 commandments over and over again. And I just have to have faith in God
01:40:29.120that he'll continue to, he won't forsake me and he won't forsake my loved ones. And that's just
01:40:37.100what I'm doing. I don't, I don't, you know, the other option people like were giving me in the
01:40:41.860movement was like, well, you can go underground for six months and nobody will know where you
01:40:45.000are. And I was like, no, thank you. Like that, that doesn't, you know, going dark for six months.
01:40:51.380No, why would I do that? So, so there's a lot of, you know, I, again, as a Christian,
01:40:58.600as a woman that does my best to follow the teachings of Christ, you know, I think we just,
01:41:05.960we you know christ says you you'll do far greater you know miracles than me like i think we have to
01:41:12.380remember where our authority comes from and it doesn't come it doesn't come from these evil
01:41:17.860globalists it doesn't come from money it doesn't come from power and wealth right it comes from
01:41:23.300god we're his creation and we all have um the right to sovereignty which means we have the right
01:41:30.720to have authority over our own bodies you know and authority over our children you know their
01:41:36.440bodies so what's the way out of this karen in your opinion that's a good question you know some days
01:41:45.020it's like um some days you know i'm feeling really positive and other days i'm like you know um you
01:41:53.100know is it is you know when when are we going to have um you know when are we going to be taken up
01:41:58.560You know, I can't I'm blanking on it. But I think I think the the best thing we can do is share the truth, because part of what this global cabal does is and this is this is in Scripture, too.
01:42:15.840You know, before the devil can destroy, he must be deceived or he must deceive.
01:42:20.000So we have to be deceived into these agreements. So this is what's interesting, Shadow, is that if you look at all the period publications or many of the period publications, they clearly say that the rollout of the mRNA vaccines was the opening of using nanotechnology in humans and on all biological life forms.
01:42:41.420So by not knowing what humanity participated in, these these people or whatever they're possessed by, believe that we agreed to be merged with nanoparticle technology because we didn't object to it because we didn't know we didn't know to even object to it.
01:42:58.280So I think sharing the truth is really important in compassion and confidence, you know, and I think having conversations with people at a human level, a one to one level, like you don't, if someone's on the opposite side of the table as you, right, don't start off with this.
01:43:15.040I mean, just start off with, you know, how are you doing?
01:43:17.940How is your family, you know, you know, and work your way into sharing this information
01:43:22.580with them to know how to, you know, wake up and identify it.
01:43:29.320So Elon Musk talks about, you know, how AI, if we don't murder AI, it's the destruction
01:44:31.360did. So AI knows, you know, people won't worry if you give them money, you know, to forfeit their
01:44:38.900rights. And if you terrorize them with a pathogen, right. And, you know, okay, in 15 years, 20 years
01:44:46.620now, the Organization for Economic Cooperation Development and Harvard and Dartmouth have been
01:44:50.660figuring out how to use environmental narratives to get civilians to not just forfeit certain
01:44:58.240rights but even do things that are harmful to them right so we're going to agree all of a sudden to
01:45:03.380pay a $2,500 a year environmental tax just because you know we've already got that up here they're
01:45:10.200trying to get rid of it but it's like 25 a year are you kidding me like it's way worse than that
01:45:16.160here it's outrageous because the tax is going to save the planet huh and people actually buy that
01:45:25.740nonsense it's amazing to me you know what they should put a tax on private jets right i think
01:45:31.520that'll that'll save it you know that that's that's the thing you know these these millionaires
01:45:36.300and politicians and billionaires are all flying around in their private jets and they own homes
01:45:41.620on the coast and they're telling us that we have to eat the bugs to save the planet yeah doesn't
01:45:48.760make any sense at all you know what artificial intelligence doesn't doesn't have it doesn't have
01:45:53.580faith. It doesn't have heart. It doesn't have determination or willpower. And it may have
01:46:02.300intelligence. They may be smarter. It may be smarter than us, but it's never going to beat us
01:46:07.000because it doesn't have the attributes that we as human beings have. And that's, I believe,
01:46:13.020something that is highly, highly important in this fight. So many people care and have already
01:46:19.080given up and i see it every day on x you know all i ever say is believe in yourself believe in god
01:46:25.980believe in your friends and family and we can't lose yeah we can't lose i i think i think community
01:46:34.680you know is so important you know um and and figuring out ways to take care of one another
01:46:42.080and protect one another and then not letting that be violated you know don't you know um
01:46:49.080you know, you can, you can find like-minded people. You just have to go out and find them,
01:46:54.100you know? And, um, and I think it's important to find people that do have, um, you know,
01:47:00.620in my opinion, and I'm not saying everyone's like this, but, you know, faith goes a long way,
01:47:05.460you know, um, knowing one day that you are going to have to account for your life, to
01:47:10.200God, you know, to a higher power. And he has, you know, the laws are clear. Yes,
01:47:15.680we have forgiveness through Jesus but you know eternity is a long time to be punished for doing
01:47:23.380the wrong thing in this lifetime and and I think what people don't realize if they go along with
01:47:28.920this AI agenda this synthetic biology agenda and you're going to be promised immortality and that's
01:47:35.200what they're promising people that you know your consciousness can be hooked up to a computer
01:47:38.880and you know basically you can think that you're on the Swiss Alps scheme or in you know
01:47:45.340plow and yap scuba diving or whatever um but because it is running by a computer you could
01:47:51.260also think that your your skin's burning in hell right so you're not going to have control over
01:47:56.020that um and so you know it to me it seems like truly people are upon their own volition are
01:48:04.260being what the devil says he's going to promise you the kingdom he's going to promise you the
01:48:08.960world and and then next thing you know you're gonna you're gonna be um it's gonna be eternal
01:48:15.300damnation and that's to me what this ai promise is to me it's so clear i don't see how other people
01:48:20.580don't see it and i don't see how these um leaders of ours even if they are nihilists like do they
01:48:30.220and like you realize you're eventually the ai is not going to be nice to you you know you're not
01:48:35.780They don't get it. They're the ones going to be lined up on the wall at some point. They sit there and they talk about so superior. They've got that air about them. They don't understand that they're going to be next. It just doesn't occur to them because they're that arrogant.
01:48:54.700You know what, Karen? I know that you've had a long day and I want to have you back. I think
01:49:00.680you're awesome. And I love our conversation tonight. And I want you guys to go ahead and
01:49:06.000share this and get this out there to as many people as you possibly can. This woman has read
01:49:11.240everything that the scientists and doctors didn't feel like reading. And she knows she has explained
01:49:18.540everything to us. Well, not everything, but a lot of things to us tonight. Karen, I would love to
01:49:23.220have you back on the show at some point soon so we can continue this discussion you've been
01:49:27.580fabulous thank you for coming on thank you sorry i was talking so much yeah just
01:49:31.480go to karenkingston.substack you can there's a lot of free substacks but even just even if you
01:49:38.280just sign up as a free subscriber that's really that really helps support me so right there the
01:49:43.380kingston report on substack there it is um and yeah we'll get you definitely get you out there
01:49:49.080and get people to sign up for it because you've got a lot of a lot more things to say karen thank
01:49:53.200you for coming on tonight really appreciate it talk to you soon thank you thank god bless
01:49:57.140all right everybody there's karen kingston special guest on the show tonight and i i don't know
01:50:02.680if uh let me put these on here i don't know if you guys were introduced to a whole new
01:50:11.920uh level of rabbit hole tonight i think maybe some of you were what i want you to know is that
01:50:18.880I've been down this rabbit hole for three years now.
01:50:26.580And I don't really go down this rabbit hole for the show so much.
01:50:32.340And the reason for that is I just don't know the things somebody like Karen Kingston knows.
01:50:38.620One of the other reasons is that I don't like to scare people.
01:50:43.200And I know that some people tonight watching that were terrified.
01:50:48.880They didn't know. Or they may think that she's absolutely crazy. What I want you to understand
01:50:54.620about Karen is this, and we have had extensive conversations in the last three days. And first
01:51:00.460of all, she's a sweetheart. Very, very nice person. Smart. Karen has read every page of those Pfizer
01:51:12.400documents thousands of pages she's read them all she and she's retained that information
01:51:19.620and she bravely decided to speak out about it and as you may have heard was shocked when she
01:51:26.540couldn't get the message out there was no left-wing corporate media that was going to touch it
01:51:30.960even the alternative media at that point in the game didn't want to talk about it
01:51:36.100but she kept at it she was called to it she still keeps at it threats on her life poison
01:51:46.860being chased out of the country all of that stuff and she's still speaking out about it
01:51:53.760we can do this stuff and i understand that maybe you hit a level of cognitive dissonance tonight