The Shadoe Davis Show - September 08, 2023


Shadoe at Nite Thurs Sept. 7th⧸2023 w⧸Theo Fleury & Jamie Sale Canadians for Truth


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00:03:00.000 good evening everybody welcome to shadow at night this is thursday september
00:03:29.780 the 7th 2023 on the show tonight jamie sellay and theo fleury of canadians for truth we'll be
00:03:35.720 talking about a lot of things but especially their hometown tour which stops in winkler manitoba on
00:03:41.980 friday september 22nd at pwn's concert hall looking forward to having these two back on the show
00:03:47.880 also patriot smoothie you may follow him on twitter or facebook or instagram he has been
00:03:53.920 covering the Barber Leach trial in Ottawa the past three days.
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00:07:11.160 patriot smoothie thank you very much for coming on tonight we've been watching your coverage of
00:07:16.900 the tamara leach chris barber trial for the past three days you've been doing a fantastic job
00:07:21.440 so thanks very much uh how does it feel out there oh it's i feel like the defense is off to a great
00:07:28.640 start shadow they're doing phenomenally and we've seen the crown fluster and flounder several times
00:07:35.480 it seems like they're trying to serve up a delicious burger but all they got are two buns
00:07:40.260 and no patty really so what have they been doing they've been showing videos of chris barber so far
00:07:45.920 from what i understand that all of these videos seem positive and uplifting filled with peace and
00:07:50.640 love absolutely so today uh we got back to the videos yesterday was more of a dry legal back
00:07:56.900 and forth sort of day and this morning we were uh treated to the information that we would be in for
00:08:01.820 five hours of video asking you shall receive i i complained that there were no more videos
00:08:08.020 yesterday today that's all we got so yes uh of those videos the majority actually the only videos
00:08:14.200 we saw in court today were the videos with uh with chris's from his tiktok directly during the
00:08:19.640 convoy period and these videos are supposed to paint the crown's picture they're supposed to show
00:08:25.580 us a violent insurrection if i could use the word sorry um an occupation if you will but all we saw
00:08:33.740 was a little bit of honking traffic moving freely chris um his humor and charm undeniable as you
00:08:42.280 watch those videos in that courtroom today certainly not the picture the crown was hoping
00:08:46.620 uh to paint at all not at all now we uh we understand that the judge is going to be playing
00:08:52.660 hardball with the prosecution in terms of hearsay and in terms of the order of the videos that
00:08:58.780 they're being shown in. Does the judge seem like a fair kind of a straight shooter to you?
00:09:04.840 Oh, absolutely. And going off of that fairness, so the judge is Justice Heather Perkins McVeigh.
00:09:11.000 She seems extraordinarily fair. And to that point, I'd like to point out that
00:09:15.600 she's been that way with the defense too. I can't recall if it was day two or one,
00:09:20.240 but there was something the defense was trying to do that she had an issue with because it was too
00:09:24.300 far from a direct source it was uh in other words it was hearsay so she's not allowing it either way
00:09:29.120 and in my opinion and i'm just a layman i'll put that out there i'm not a lawyer i'm not a paralegal
00:09:34.380 i'm not any kind of legal expert just an observant person what i will say is to me that seems very
00:09:40.280 positive for defense because in a democracy theoretically you are under the presumption of
00:09:45.900 innocence. So everything that makes it a little bit more tough is good for the defense. It means
00:09:50.640 that the prosecution has to work just that much more harder to get that conviction, which by the
00:09:55.180 day seems further and further away. And speaking of that conviction seeming further and further
00:10:01.420 away, I think that the morale is palpable. This morning, in fact, as Tamara Leach was coming into
00:10:07.180 court, she approached a group of us supporters outside. It was probably about four or five of
00:10:11.420 us it was pretty early and she gave each one of us a hug including me i finally finally got my hug
00:10:17.180 with tamara it's been quite a long time uh never had the opportunity so i'm happy about that and
00:10:23.280 to me it that's really important because the last couple of days before this we weren't seeing
00:10:28.700 much of any engagement with the audience from tamara she was very in and out but today she
00:10:33.740 felt comfortable enough to come up to several people and even give them hugs it's tremendous
00:10:38.200 in where the defense sits in their minds right now.
00:10:41.620 And in reality, too, I think.
00:10:43.240 I think that they are riding high right now.
00:10:45.740 You want to be positive, but not overconfident,
00:10:47.920 or at least seem overconfident, right?
00:10:50.240 Oh, for sure.
00:10:50.960 So the defense for Tamara Leach is Lawrence Greenspun
00:10:54.220 and Eric Gregener.
00:10:55.780 And there's some others that I don't have the name of.
00:10:58.440 And for Barber, it's Diane Magus.
00:11:00.760 I call them by their last names in my reporting.
00:11:03.280 And they are phenomenally on point.
00:11:05.020 I really don't think they're going into this
00:11:07.140 with overconfidence.
00:11:08.200 I just think that at this point, it's it's you can't help but feel when every day the crown is slipping down the hill and you're staying strong, that things are going your way.
00:11:17.400 Now, of course, the tide can change at absolutely any time.
00:11:21.120 And it would be a foolish tactical mistake, egregious mistake to think that you've won the battle before we're even halfway through.
00:11:28.260 And I maintain a perhaps unrealistic level of optimism because that's just the position I'm taking on this.
00:11:34.240 But then again, I'm not responsible for their defense, but I will note that these lawyers are treating this as seriously as possible.
00:11:40.740 But from Tamara herself, it was good to see that optimism coming through.
00:11:47.180 Was the defense successful at all in getting any of these prosecution witnesses thrown out of the case?
00:11:54.220 So that's something that I understand will be happening soon.
00:11:57.720 So the Crown does expect, to my knowledge, to call 22 witnesses.
00:12:00.760 i do believe with those 22 so far we've called four by the way and three of those are still in
00:12:07.280 the air we'll circle back to that because it's important but of the 22 witnesses the crown wants
00:12:12.120 nine of them the defense has a problem with to what i understand and those arguments will begin
00:12:17.420 on monday has anyone been excluded so far no but what's what is what's happening is we settled our
00:12:23.860 first witness on the tuesday which was ops officer barlow and then on the second day which was wednesday
00:12:30.740 yesterday, we called our second witness, which was Inspector Russell Lucas, who was one of the
00:12:35.420 incident commanders during the Freedom Convoy for the Ottawa Police. And then we also got to
00:12:40.100 Officer Isabella Cyr, who was a PLT officer. Now, between those two witnesses, we had the crown
00:12:46.540 PLT, I'm sorry, PLT is liaison officer, right? Sorry, I'm so used to the acronyms here sitting
00:12:52.100 in on all of these proceedings. And the POECS, that's the police liaison team there. Think of
00:12:57.300 them as sort of police negotiators they work very closely with protesters and events in general to
00:13:03.140 try and what primarily their their mission has testified in court is to gather information for
00:13:08.540 the police but then they're as secondary to that they're building rapport with the protesters or
00:13:14.440 event coordinators and making sure that things remain lawful but yesterday we saw that between
00:13:20.140 those two witnesses the crown was back going between them and right now we have three witnesses
00:13:25.760 in the air and only one witness settled so as Lawrence Greenspan said earlier today it's there's
00:13:30.680 a lot of balls going on like there's a lot of balls in the air right now and it seems to me
00:13:35.400 as though the crown is trying to overwhelm the defense maybe or perhaps the crown has overwhelmed
00:13:41.140 themselves because they are trying to go down a line with each of these witnesses and then they're
00:13:45.780 running into a wall whether it be a problem with evidence because for example in officer
00:13:50.320 Isabella Sears case, her main piece of evidence, one of them would be her so-called PLT logs.
00:13:57.160 And these are sort of think of them as conglomerated notes. But these notes, however,
00:14:01.940 are compiled by other people. So there are crime analysts who work at the police department who
00:14:07.160 compile these PLT logs from WhatsApp messages, text messages, and what have you. But because
00:14:13.440 these things were made by people who aren't directly the witness, Justice Perkins McVeigh
00:14:18.880 is having some issues with that so then we go the crown goes down another avenue says okay hold on
00:14:24.000 i'll call ops um sergeant joanne pilot so for example that brings us to today today we were
00:14:30.040 supposed to continue with officers here and the crown told us this morning that no we will not be
00:14:34.200 doing that we want to have miss pilot come in and sergeant pilot sorry who is a detective by the way 0.99
00:14:39.800 with the ops homicide unit and instead of investigating homicides here she is spending 0.99
00:14:45.400 her precious time as a homicide investigator investigating the freedom convoy and gathering
00:14:52.280 videos that we will talk about shortly of people honking in trucks and sharing warm food and having
00:14:59.480 just wanting to be heard by their government that doesn't seem to me like appropriate use of a
00:15:03.720 homicide investigator's time i don't know what you think about that but now it seems to me like
00:15:08.560 this is the prosecution's time am i correct this is yes so originally the trial is supposed to last
00:15:13.940 for 16 days and 10 of those the crown intends to have i can tell you right now this isn't going to
00:15:19.460 be 16 days like we're uh we're we we still haven't settled the second witness we're on to witness
00:15:25.440 four and three of them are still in the air juggling between them due to the various legal
00:15:30.160 issues that we're encountering so it sounds like the crown is using their time to retool their
00:15:39.300 case they probably had an idea of what they wanted to do when they first started out but
00:15:43.080 Now it's not working out so well for them based upon what the judge has laid down.
00:15:46.880 Am I right in saying that?
00:15:47.700 Oh, that seems extremely, that seems like a very insightful perspective to me,
00:15:51.940 touching on retooling their case, because, for example, this afternoon,
00:15:56.600 the Crown is trying to do two things.
00:15:58.100 As you know, Tamara Leach and Chris Barber are co-accused in this matter.
00:16:02.140 The Crown wants it so that evidence introduced against one of the accused
00:16:05.460 will apply to the other, one, and vice versa.
00:16:08.560 Now, to do this, there's certain things that they have to do.
00:16:10.980 now. I'm not a legal expert, so I can't really go any further than that. I know it has something to
00:16:14.840 do with the Carter decision in 1982, I believe. So there's a lot
00:16:18.920 of mention of the Carter. And basically part of that, as I
00:16:22.980 understand it, is before they can prove the conspiracy, they have to very
00:16:26.700 clearly outline the parameters of the conspiracy, the alleged conspiracy to defense.
00:16:31.260 And I would imagine that they had done that, and it said
00:16:34.780 something along the lines of Chris and Tamara. But at
00:16:38.920 this point later in today's proceedings what we had is the crown was uh talking about um the
00:16:46.100 facebook page freedom convoy 2022 and on that freedom convoy 2022 facebook page you have a lot
00:16:51.500 of posts made by other people and the problem with that is that there was a agreement between
00:16:56.640 both the defense and the crown that that freedom convoy page was legitimate and what they agreed
00:17:01.920 to in that was that it was not a fake page but they did not agree to the facts of that page
00:17:07.040 and by trying to include the facts of that page they are almost broadening um the scope of their
00:17:14.060 conspiracy and that becomes a problem because that's not something they informed defense that
00:17:18.480 they would do so as uh councillor magus actually rise this afternoon councillor for uh chris barber
00:17:23.620 rose to say like who is part of this conspiracy here is it chris and tamara is it my client and
00:17:29.400 tamara lich is it my client tamara lich and 10 people is it my client tamara lich and all of
00:17:34.760 canada she literally said that so the crown is trying to go over it like they're trying to get
00:17:40.260 to my position it feels like they're trying to include as wide a scope of evidence as possible
00:17:45.640 when really when they're doing this carter thing they have to work within very specified parameters
00:17:50.740 and they're trying to go outside of that to broaden their case and their chances and it's
00:17:55.460 not going to work so tomorrow morning uh what we are doing we ended an hour early today because
00:18:00.240 As you can imagine, we had a five minute break, then a 20 minute break.
00:18:03.660 The legal issues shadow are never ending in this case so far.
00:18:07.380 And we're on day three.
00:18:08.260 So tomorrow morning, what we'll be doing first thing is a legal discussion, legal arguments based on the conspiracy itself, the Carter instructions, the Carter case, whatever it may be called, and the legal parameters around that.
00:18:21.580 So we're going to have an argument between the defense and the Crown about the scope of this conspiracy that they're trying to prove as they're constantly changing the parameters of that in court.
00:18:30.960 And it's it's not going well for them. Certainly not.
00:18:33.800 You would think that that would have been hammered out well before the trial began, just through meetings with the judge and whatnot and then pre-trial leading up to this.
00:18:40.700 But I guess not. What's been the biggest moment, Smoothie, of this trial that you've witnessed so far?
00:18:48.440 well certainly there was a number of things that happened outside that i'm sure some people have
00:18:53.340 saw we had some interesting interactions out there and i feel really bad for chris and tamara
00:18:57.580 that they have to endure that uh kind of disrespect and they don't deserve that they're
00:19:01.640 not the super villains people make them out to me to be but to me the biggest moment isn't a
00:19:06.460 particular thing it's the collective floundering of the crown they're not off to a strong start
00:19:12.160 here and the crown uh the only crown name i have right now is tim radcliffe he's a counselor tim
00:19:17.160 Radcliffe there are others but he's a sort of the recurring theme here and that's the big takeaway
00:19:22.660 so far is that the crown is not making their case very well that's the big moment so can you explain
00:19:28.460 a lot of people don't know this there is no jury in this court case they decided upon a judge
00:19:33.840 only trial do you think that was wise again I'm just a lay person so to to expand further on these
00:19:41.120 legal uh opinions is this is an opinion question yeah perfect perfect so i'll answer um that
00:19:47.920 decision was made by the two clients with the advice of their legal counsel and i can tell
00:19:52.600 you after witnessing these individuals this legal counsel team of the aforementioned uh lawyers that
00:19:58.020 they are extremely extremely competent and they want to win and i believe they will win so i
00:20:03.260 believe they advise their clients and they they chose the choice they chose the path that was
00:20:08.040 best suited to their victory and i think that that decision was made uh competently and effectively
00:20:14.300 at the hands and the advice of the legal counsel okay i've got a couple of friends i want to bring
00:20:19.880 on here uh brother and see if they have any questions they want to ask you uh patriot smoothie
00:20:24.360 please meet jamie soleil and theo flurry of canadians thank you guys for coming on
00:20:29.600 hello hello how's it going oh it's going good a bit tired man because it never ends but it's
00:20:37.980 going good i got my sweatshirt on i love it i love it we're uh we're a bigger fringe than anyone
00:20:45.420 would uh would otherwise be uh think we're a huge fringe here is there any questions you guys have
00:20:51.240 that i might have forgotten to ask uh theo jamie anything you can think of i'm not shocked that the
00:20:58.000 uh that the crown is already incompetent because the person who uh created this whole mess trudeau
00:21:07.000 is incompetent himself so you know it's par for the course yeah okay yeah you know with that being
00:21:15.780 said shadow i know earlier you asked about the videos and there was uh over 20 of them that we
00:21:20.180 watched the tiktok videos and uh in one of the videos chris barber basically echoed that sentiment
00:21:26.300 very well. He said, we're here in Ottawa. It's the capital. I'm sorry that it's affecting the
00:21:31.120 residents here, but we're here because we want to be heard. But our government will do nothing
00:21:34.820 but insult us and run to their chamber. That was a big moment, too, a good takeaway from all those
00:21:39.960 videos. Again, what picture the Crown is trying to paint? Who knows? But that's what I took from it.
00:21:45.760 They tried to show a video, a very one-sided video on the opening day, did they not?
00:21:51.100 so so that wasn't a video that was the crown's uh perspective and they use words like occupation
00:21:57.340 and occupier and so um so when the crown makes their introductory statement before the trial
00:22:03.300 starts it's not part of the evidence it's not technically part of the evidentiary proceedings
00:22:07.340 uh so they're allowed to use much more opinionated language and as is the defense
00:22:11.180 but uh the defense immediately both defense sides for tamara and for chris being uh uh
00:22:17.560 Greenspun and Magus stood up
00:22:19.540 and basically objected to that language.
00:22:21.880 Actually, Councillor Magus
00:22:23.380 read the legal definition of
00:22:25.120 occupy occupation, which is
00:22:27.300 the hostile takeover
00:22:29.220 of a local population and authority
00:22:31.100 by an armed military.
00:22:33.760 Which is what
00:22:35.440 Trudeau did.
00:22:36.800 Which is what he did.
00:22:38.160 He did it.
00:22:40.760 He did, not us.
00:22:43.440 Interesting to note, Shadow,
00:22:46.000 Mr. Fleury and
00:22:46.900 miss sailing there was absolutely no use of the word occupation after that i think it was used
00:22:52.660 one time on day uh two when talking about the thing that happened at confederation park if you
00:22:57.980 remember they built a little pop-up kitchen and community there in the little park here in ottawa
00:23:01.800 during the convoy that was cleared out you remember uh pat king i think was the one who
00:23:05.860 shared a picture or a video of the tow truck taking the shed back to coventry um so they
00:23:10.600 used the word occupation to refer to that park perhaps maybe slightly more appropriate use of
00:23:16.620 language but i still don't agree with it now we haven't heard it since though they've called it
00:23:20.520 the freedom convoy protest in fact uh smoothie you mentioned the treatment that chris and tamara
00:23:27.160 were receiving from certain people outside the court uh we have seen some videos but for those
00:23:32.260 who haven't could you please elaborate a little bit how has that been going for them so i witnessed
00:23:37.120 that i just thought that it wasn't uh pertinent to my time to engage with it but we've had a couple
00:23:42.340 of the local characters out and about trying to antagonize chris and tamara as they're coming and
00:23:47.420 going from the court and particularly hilarious incident happened the other day yesterday where
00:23:53.880 this woman person came over on a tricycle and was riding alongside of tamara as she was leaving
00:24:03.020 demanding they apologize for what they did to ottawa what that is i don't know they set us free
00:24:08.160 i know that much uh so in fact like my friend chris stacy said who was the one who took that
00:24:13.140 famous picture of uh tamara leach walking and giving the peace sign beautiful photo that i've
00:24:18.160 shared on my social media platforms as he said uh as it was happening we we don't owe her an
00:24:24.560 apology she doesn't owe us an apology we owe her a thank you and he thanked her that in there but
00:24:29.120 later on you know people people have gone to town on that footage of her and i didn't notice that
00:24:34.660 One of the tricycle wheels were almost falling off, actually.
00:24:39.180 Hopefully you didn't tell her.
00:24:41.460 I was behind that when it was happening.
00:24:43.360 So Rebel was filming that and Chris was filming it both basically behind and to the sides because that's where they were when it all materialized.
00:24:50.280 I was standing slightly behind there, if I recall, but I never noticed any of those details until later.
00:24:55.800 But, man, that's just hilarious and unfortunate at the same time.
00:24:58.880 One last question, my friend. How important is this trial for our country?
00:25:05.360 This trial is fundamentally important to this country, to the rule of law, to our democracy, that it be handled as impartially as possible.
00:25:14.560 And to this day three, day four tomorrow, the Justice Heather Perkins-McVeigh is doing amazing at her detaining an unbiased perspective, in my true and honest opinion.
00:25:26.000 as any adjudicator should.
00:25:29.820 But as the overall effect of the trial
00:25:32.480 on the Canadian landscape
00:25:34.060 and on the tapestry of this country
00:25:37.560 and the fabric of our nation
00:25:38.900 is tremendously important.
00:25:40.700 And I believe that there was no criminal actions here.
00:25:44.400 There was no sedition.
00:25:45.600 There was no grand conspiracy.
00:25:47.060 There was no murder.
00:25:48.560 There was no arson of buildings.
00:25:51.140 There was none of these things.
00:25:52.100 And they use language to try to make it sound
00:25:54.020 like those things happen, but they never did.
00:25:56.000 You know, they use words like swarmed when it was just verbal disagreements and no physical altercations.
00:26:03.340 This trial is tremendously important to our country and that it's tremendously important that it's handled well.
00:26:09.500 And in my opinion, it's tremendously important that a not guilty verdict be rendered.
00:26:12.820 But again, we can't just jump into these things and have the outcomes we want happen because that's not justice either.
00:26:18.760 They have to run their course. But I do believe that at the end of this, we will see a not guilty.
00:26:23.040 for sure articulate and informative reporting my friend uh you guys anything here any questions
00:26:29.820 doing what you're doing yeah that's so good yeah because because oh because you know you're
00:26:39.740 basically our mainstream media for the freedom movement so you know thank you for doing that
00:26:45.760 thank you for you know everything that you're doing we appreciate it very much
00:26:49.880 I'll say one more thing before I go
00:26:52.060 it's the least I could do for Chris and Tamara
00:26:53.820 they have sacrificed
00:26:55.200 enormously for all of us
00:26:57.740 and others have as well
00:26:59.120 we'll be paying attention to later
00:27:01.600 Patrick King is an example
00:27:03.540 I intend to follow that proceeding as well
00:27:05.480 as it comes up
00:27:06.720 this is the least I could do for them
00:27:09.180 and the sanity that they've restored to our country
00:27:11.440 where can we find you on social media
00:27:13.740 my friend? Patriot Smoothie, Facebook, Twitter
00:27:16.040 TikTok, wherever you want
00:27:17.500 see you around
00:27:18.180 hope to have you back real soon thank you man all right there is patriot smoothie he's been
00:27:25.100 doing a heck of a job you guys i've been following him on x slash twitter and on facebook and i
00:27:30.160 thought hey you know what here's a guy who's been in the courtroom uh for the past three days he
00:27:34.600 knows what's going on he told you know what he told me before we came on tonight he said that
00:27:39.900 i'm not going to be able to give you such a detailed report i hope you don't mind
00:27:43.920 how are you guys doing welcome to the show thank you for coming on tonight it's a pleasure to have
00:27:51.820 you back thanks shadow it's so great to be back always good to be always good to be
00:28:00.820 on your program sir yeah i'm still i'm still um mad about the short birdie putts i missed today so
00:28:12.040 oh that's a rough life brother that's a rough life last time i was out i wish we'd had a chance
00:28:19.140 to play because my game has been slightly improving week by week by week but you know
00:28:23.140 what we're gonna be in winkler in a couple of weeks right and i think they're trying to set
00:28:28.540 up a game there for us excellent so i'm not sure did you guys hear about wd-40 being banned in
00:28:36.660 canada i got a message today from a friend that load up and i'm going what
00:28:42.940 western standard reported that canada will ban wd-40 in 2024 and then they said wait a minute
00:28:51.340 just the aerosol and so i went and did a little bit of an investigation i found this uh from the
00:28:57.100 wd-40 people themselves they say thank you for reaching out with your question wd-40 will not
00:29:02.740 be banned in canada i believe you're referring to the new standards for volatile organic compounds
00:29:08.340 with your questions i can assure you that our products will be compliant under these new
00:29:13.500 standards so our products will remain in the canadian market thanks ac so it's going to be
00:29:17.580 a different kind of wd-40 than we've been used to so here we are here we are this this is going to
00:29:26.440 be on friday september 22nd at pwn's concert hall in uh winkler manitoba this is the first of uh i
00:29:34.560 think you guys have got a whole bunch of stops planned on this particular tour that you're doing
00:29:38.640 through canada this winter but i'm so happy to be joining you on this it's my hometown or my home
00:29:44.500 province and i look forward to getting up on stage and doing this show with you maybe not this
00:29:49.300 particular show but a show with you guys on the stage in winkler and i know there's a lot of
00:29:53.760 people who are excited about it i see there's one person pictured here on this poster and by the way
00:29:59.640 this is canadiansfortruth.ca if you guys want to uh grab tickets to see uh jamie and myself and uh
00:30:05.960 theo on stage at pwn's concert hall just click on uh on the website and there's a get tickets
00:30:12.560 tab right underneath that picture there but joseph borgo is not with us on the show tonight he is
00:30:18.480 the founder of canadians for truth i'd like you guys to talk a little bit about joe uh in your
00:30:24.280 own words tell us uh who he is what he means to the freedom movement and how canadians for truth
00:30:30.280 came to be in the first place jamie you want to go first i'm gonna let theo go first to that
00:30:34.540 because i'm gonna talk about him differently than theo theo can talk about how it all started
00:30:39.140 Okay, sure. Theo?
00:30:42.140 Well, I met Joseph when he was actually in Ottawa during the convoy.
00:30:52.000 And Aaron O'Toole had just stepped down as the leader of the Conservative Party.
00:31:01.200 And Joe called me and said that he would like to run for leadership of the party.
00:31:09.140 asked me if I would campaign with him and I was like sure I'd love to and so
00:31:16.540 spent a couple of months with Joe touring around Alberta and Saskatchewan
00:31:24.340 doing different town halls and gatherings and meetings and all kinds of
00:31:29.800 stuff and media and uh um so we had we had a certain milestones to hit uh i think we needed
00:31:39.640 a thousand signatures which we achieved and then we were asked to raise i believe three hundred
00:31:46.360 thousand dollars which we raised four hundred thousand dollars we submitted it all to uh the
00:31:55.080 committee and the leadership party and they kicked us out of the race and right for absolutely we
00:32:04.040 don't know what reason uh they made still a mystery they made up same some lame excuse
00:32:09.480 because you're but yes because we're the fringe we're the fringe yeah and uh which to us really
00:32:17.400 exposed you know uh the conservative party of canada as being as corrupt as the liberal party
00:32:24.780 in canada because we were talking about the world economic forum and klaus schwab while we were
00:32:32.040 doing all these stops or at least i was anyways and uh you know uh i didn't have very many good
00:32:39.260 things to say about pierre polyev uh i've been in a room with him i've met with him a few times
00:32:46.500 and uh you know really did not get a good vibe uh from him so i was i was you know we were talking
00:32:54.600 about that kind of stuff and and uh and yeah so they kicked us out of the race and then we're
00:33:00.120 like whoa what the hell are we gonna do now you know and uh so never mind that joe's got a huge
00:33:08.020 company in saskatchewan borgo tillage tools right like never mind that yeah let's let's talk more
00:33:14.240 about freedom this is the kind of guy and and you know what and that's the thing that really sold me
00:33:21.200 on joe was i went to st bruce saskatchewan and i toured around and i toured the factory
00:33:29.100 and i met everybody that's involved in in uh burgo tillage and tools and i was absolutely
00:33:38.440 blown away because every employee that i talked to that's a part of this organization they were
00:33:47.080 happy they loved their job they loved working for joe you know and basically the burgo family
00:33:55.560 in a town of 800 people uh with his two brothers and the three i believe it's three companies
00:34:04.140 built a billion-dollar company in a town of 800 people.
00:34:09.280 So I'm thinking to myself,
00:34:11.860 why have we been shipping all of our manufacturing over to China
00:34:16.580 when the Burgos family did it in small-town Saskatchewan,
00:34:21.740 northern Saskatchewan, with 800 people?
00:34:26.340 So if they can do that there,
00:34:29.060 why can't we do this in every little small town in Canada,
00:34:32.340 create this amazing manufacturing because in Canada we have probably one of the most skilled
00:34:40.720 labor forces in all of the world and here we are shipping all of our manufacturing over to
00:34:49.100 you know China and India and because of cheap labor right and and so after my experience being
00:34:58.240 in St. Brew, I realized that Joe was the real deal. And for me, I'm getting some really great
00:35:13.720 mentoring from an extremely brilliant, smart businessman who is probably one of the smartest
00:35:24.820 guys in intellectually and and how much research he's done in you know since he was like in his
00:35:38.140 20s about Canadian politics and so you know we have some of the most incredible conversations
00:35:46.260 with him because he's also a man of God he's a you know he's a Christian and there's just so
00:35:54.020 many great qualities about him and he's and he's and he's a lot of easy to tease yes of course of
00:36:00.960 course get some good laughs we do so all right so so you guys decide well let's form this
00:36:07.380 organization let's call it canadians for truth uh well it was already started it was already
00:36:12.380 started they started it in 2020 i believe and what they did was you know they they did their
00:36:21.120 research, and they were handing out pamphlets about the dangers of wearing masks, and also,
00:36:28.000 you know, the dangers of the vaccines. You know, Joe owns his own health food store.
00:36:34.880 And I believe he helped a whole bunch of people that got COVID in that small area,
00:36:42.880 recover from COVID. So, you know, so yeah, and so I'm like, let's start a media company.
00:36:51.120 And so come to Calgary, we get a beautiful office that has a theater attached to it.
00:36:59.740 We built a studio and created four programs.
00:37:05.280 Jamie's is Unstoppable Truth.
00:37:07.720 Mine is The Patriot Warrior.
00:37:10.860 And Joe's is Way of Truth.
00:37:15.520 And then we have our live fire and ice events, which you were our guest.
00:37:22.820 Yeah, that was fun.
00:37:23.960 And so basically what we've been doing is we've been interviewing.
00:37:29.780 I've been doing monologues.
00:37:32.160 Joe is in the process of writing a book that's almost finished that we're excited to get published
00:37:40.780 and get get it in the hands of of people on how to change the country and uh yeah so i like i've
00:37:50.000 said many times joe is the real deal he's a very smart kind uh charitable amazing human being yeah
00:37:59.380 all right so now hang on jamie before before we bring in your story
00:38:02.740 now here's a picture of the two of you skating with the stars am i correct
00:38:10.920 that's what it was called battle of the blades battle of the blades my mistake that's a hell
00:38:16.060 of a nice uh eyeliner job there theo you guys can see that
00:38:19.200 nice outfits all around beautiful i had an earring in too
00:38:27.000 so you guys all in shadow all in i said theo can you be like a character for me and and each week
00:38:36.340 there's a theme uh you know we skated to a theme uh you know you got latin week you got country
00:38:41.900 week you had like whatever so he was all in it was so fun so when you guys did this when you guys
00:38:48.980 did the battle of the blades back in the day you you formed a bond you became very good friends
00:38:53.080 correct yes yes and is that how this whole partnership began with canadians for truth
00:39:00.000 because i remember jamie you were telling me your story about it when you're talking to a friend and
00:39:04.760 this is your wake-up story you were talking to a friend and i forget exactly what it was
00:39:09.320 i was literally praying every day to show me the way through this shenanigans that we're living in
00:39:21.240 or living whatever whatever's going on and I just kept praying and I kept saying please show me the
00:39:27.620 way through this and I and then I get a phone call from Theo because we'd already talked because I
00:39:31.620 knew he was speaking out and I reached out to him for support because I said how the frick are you
00:39:36.740 doing this like I'm getting annihilated he goes James it's this or we die like we we got it like
00:39:42.300 that was what he said to me and so we kind of supported each other you know through text here
00:39:47.780 and there. And then next thing I know, I was getting a phone call going, we're creating a
00:39:51.340 media team. Canadians for Truth, Joseph Vergo started this. And he told me the whole story.
00:39:55.760 And I was like, and there it is. And I said, I'm all in. I said, I absolutely, I would love this
00:40:01.860 because I do love television. I like being on camera. I love talking to people. Integrating
00:40:08.640 people is new for me. I'm used to being on the other side. But I am enjoying it. And we have a
00:40:12.900 great mentor uh and coach with heather she's just been phenomenal for both of us like i can't even
00:40:20.420 express my gratitude enough for her because uh i don't know what the hell i'm doing i'm just
00:40:25.540 okay you're all these interviews anyway so we're having so much fun and what i wanted to say about
00:40:36.640 joe was that you know i you know reiterate what theo basically said is just that he's a really
00:40:41.540 loving grounded generous down-to-earth Saskatchewan Canadian boy you know and I'm so
00:40:50.740 honored and grateful that I can be a part of such a dynamic team all of us like there's even we have
00:40:58.520 a team behind the scenes as well that works in St. Brew with him as well and everybody's just
00:41:04.180 so incredibly supportive and what Joe has given us is a gift and you know he has many gifts but
00:41:11.440 he's given us the gift of using our voices as well and giving us a even another platform you
00:41:17.860 know Theo's platform is huge I lost my Twitter account it got hacked but he's given us this
00:41:24.860 platform to to speak out and have others share their experiences and their stories and and with
00:41:31.540 just being very open-minded and free you know he's like you guys go do you and so for that
00:41:38.760 um it's just been phenomenal i i really enjoyed this this journey so far and we are really excited
00:41:45.880 to go on the road because as you know shadow lots of people even for you wish you would travel right
00:41:52.440 like i'm sure you're getting the same thing they want you to go on the road your show yeah yeah
00:41:58.060 i've been asked a few times this is going to be fun the seeing you guys again in winkler on the
00:42:03.380 22nd but i want to ask you this you you've done interviews together and i'm not talking about
00:42:08.100 being interviewed because now that you're on the other side of the mic you are doing the interviewing
00:42:12.180 uh what are your favorite interviews so far individually and together theo i'm going to
00:42:19.120 start with you on this one i know you did tucker tucker and roger stone probably had been my two
00:42:25.360 favorites um uh you know that's something that's another thing that came from uh getting together
00:42:32.760 with joe was um you know getting opportunity to travel to uh maine to actually be in the same room
00:42:42.560 with tucker and then uh and then after we met with tucker we flew down to new york and and spent two
00:42:49.680 days with roger stone and uh yeah it was it was an incredible experience um as you can see tucker
00:42:58.200 has really come out
00:43:00.780 of his shell now that he's left
00:43:02.680 Fox. He's got
00:43:04.680 more viewers now than he ever had
00:43:06.920 working on it. It's unbelievable.
00:43:09.300 I bet you 500
00:43:10.200 million people
00:43:12.620 or I would say he's
00:43:14.660 probably got 500 million
00:43:16.680 impressions in
00:43:18.760 the, what, 25
00:43:20.040 things he's done on X
00:43:22.460 so far. Like he got
00:43:24.240 a quarter of a million when
00:43:26.620 interviewed trump you know during the debate so um you know and then yesterday came out with
00:43:33.380 another bombshell uh had had one of uh obama's gay lovers and uh you know allegedly allegedly
00:43:42.700 the guy said like he did it but we don't know there's obviously denials coming from the other
00:43:46.860 side so we got to be fair on this one allegedly okay but i i know i know tucker and tucker wouldn't
00:43:56.380 put anybody on his show if it wasn't legit let me tell you that he's done this guy he's done his
00:44:02.580 homework yeah so yeah for me and and our the favorite live guests well obviously you were
00:44:10.020 fantastic you were fantastic but my favorite so far has been brian dennison the the calgary police
00:44:20.800 officer. I thought he was incredibly vulnerable. And I'm so big on vulnerability. It's so important
00:44:30.100 in this day and age that, you know, we speak from our heart, we stand in our truth. And he was
00:44:36.680 probably one of the guys that was probably the easiest interview we've done. He didn't hold
00:44:46.640 anything back he was honest he was open and just a really fantastic guy jamie what about you what's
00:44:55.000 what's your favorite interview so far i've i've done some really i mean i can't say i've had a
00:45:01.060 bad interview honestly i haven't everybody i've interviewed has spoken so well and and spoke
00:45:07.240 their truth the truth i've enjoyed every guest that i've had including our fire and ice guests
00:45:13.360 um like I've literally left every one of the fire and ice events on a high because I just felt like
00:45:21.260 I always get more out of that event than I expected you know you know that you've got a
00:45:27.840 great guest coming in and it's going to be a great interview but then I leave there and everybody's
00:45:32.240 just like whoa that was incredible so I don't have a favorite and I know that's lame everybody's
00:45:37.960 waiting for me to give it I just don't they're all awesome but the other I think one of the you
00:45:44.800 know I remember being uh interviewing Christine Anderson from the EU and I was literally going
00:45:50.300 to shit my pants like I was so nervous I know and I was at the beginning too like what I mean she's
00:46:01.120 a big deal you know can you can you give us an impression of the vibe that she gives off because 0.65
00:46:07.840 what i get from just watching her on video is an air of confidence and knowledge and yes even of
00:46:14.260 of you know like she's fighting back with everything she has in a very dignified way
00:46:19.420 is that how she is in in person she's incredibly direct very strong very confident 100 she knows
00:46:27.500 exactly what she's talking about um she's intimidating in some ways because she walked
00:46:32.740 into the room when i was interviewing her and i was trying to like i figured she probably didn't
00:46:38.080 even know who we were so i was just trying to introduce theo and i to her and say you know
00:46:43.080 hey i'm an olympic gold medalist and theo's uh stanley cup champion olympic gold medalist and
00:46:48.080 just so she had a feeling of what you know who she was around because i feel like she just showed up
00:46:54.320 for this interview and didn't know who was interviewing her in in a way and she was like
00:46:58.520 oh that's nice didn't matter acting like oh wow i wasn't expecting that either but i was just
00:47:09.640 thinking like she was just like yeah okay let's go let's get this interview done and she was very
00:47:13.000 business which i respect too because she was in high demand when she was here in canada she was
00:47:17.680 being taken from one interview to the next but she was amazing her interview was incredible 0.77
00:47:22.240 very very very powerful very powerful messaging and then of course sarah palin like i mean that's
00:47:28.980 that was a big deal for us too having sarah come all the way from alaska um having her for two
00:47:34.420 nights and just having her be so real and raw in front of our audiences and so yeah yeah she she
00:47:41.100 blew me away too like she she is like so smart so on the ball you know uh has done some incredible
00:47:50.820 things yeah the people of alaska when she was you know when she was in power and and uh you know
00:47:58.580 yeah she was she was fantastic you know how much of a beating i'm sorry go ahead jamie i just wanted
00:48:03.760 to say that every guest that we've had on fire and ice or that i've had on unstoppable truth
00:48:08.120 has a really incredible story and and that's what matters is that everyone i mean we've had
00:48:14.900 vax injured to doctors and nurses to holistic things to um conspiracy talks to you know new
00:48:23.680 age kind of like i've had everything on i want to be open-minded i want my viewers to have
00:48:28.500 discernment around what's being shared whether it resonates with them or whatever but everyone
00:48:32.500 has an incredible story or message to share i just interviewed a business owner from calgary
00:48:38.880 recently and it was a great reminder of what businesses even went through for two years like
00:48:44.920 it's just you know it's not that we forget because it's unforgettable it's just it was really
00:48:51.480 emotional to hear him explain what he went through again and he was literally going all of my 0.99
00:48:56.580 entrepreneur friends were with me they were all like oh I agree with you this is stupid and this 0.99
00:49:01.600 is ridiculous but then when it came down to like standing up he was one of the only ones and you 0.98
00:49:07.060 know what that's that's something i want to ask you because theo i watched one of your latest
00:49:11.120 monologues about the epidemic of fear and uh you you stated and this is something i've said
00:49:18.160 on this show as well and you're right jamie it's very powerful message um how many times have we
00:49:23.780 had people walk up to us uh and say wow i really really appreciate what you're doing man i i agree
00:49:29.700 with i agree with everything you're saying i just wish i could say it myself but yeah no i can't say
00:49:35.040 um why don't they well because of because of exactly what's happening in ottawa right now
00:49:45.440 people are afraid that if they speak out that they'll end up like kamara and chris right you
00:49:51.980 know and it's it's the the government has been very calculating in how they've instilled fear
00:50:00.760 into the population, right?
00:50:04.320 And, but the bottom line, Shadow,
00:50:09.820 is we are headed towards global communism, okay?
00:50:16.480 And there is no debating that anymore.
00:50:20.080 It's not a conspiracy theory.
00:50:21.820 There is no debating that anymore.
00:50:25.080 And when you have communism,
00:50:27.140 the only thing that communism spits out is mass death the only thing that comes out of communism
00:50:37.040 you've forgotten misery there's a lot of misery too for those of us who remain alive but the bottom
00:50:41.720 like but the end the end is death right so i realized that a long time ago so i figured out
00:50:52.040 they want me dead okay which tells me i have nothing to lose yeah everything to gain
00:51:00.860 and like i said in my monologue
00:51:04.120 secret inside of me for 27 years and when you do that you're actually really living a lie you're
00:51:14.980 not standing in your truth. You're actually living a lie. And so, yeah, I appreciate people coming up
00:51:25.300 and saying that to me, but I'm like, no, we are going to lose this battle of freedom if you stay
00:51:35.540 silent knowing what I know yeah exactly because at the end of the day yeah you may be sustaining
00:51:46.220 yourself in the short run but eventually you're going to lose everything right why do you think
00:51:56.000 we have a housing crisis in Canada is because BlackRock and Vanguard want to bankrupt every
00:52:04.440 single human being in north america who owns a house because what's this what's the famous saying
00:52:12.360 from the world economic forum you'll own nothing and be happy well we're already seeing this
00:52:18.520 happen and if we're not talking about it people aren't aware of it then it's going to happen
00:52:25.520 so when people walk up to you or when they write to you and uh or just tag you in a social media
00:52:33.380 post and say jamie soleil you're crazy i used to love you but now i i can't stand you yeah how does
00:52:40.220 that make you feel and how do you respond to that yeah in the beginning i was super hurt and sad 0.64
00:52:45.520 because i i did a live on instagram when i could do live so i got cut off of that 0.51
00:52:50.240 i said um well i go against their standards i guess community standards you bad girl you
00:52:58.900 Yeah, so I said that I've spent my whole life in a sport where I was trying to gain the audience's vote, you know, I wanted everyone to love me. And also, as a, you know, a kid that went through a lot of bullying, I really don't like being disliked. So it really hurt me in the beginning. I was like, Theo, how do Oh, my gosh, but Theo's used to it.
00:53:22.260 I'm not um and so I struggled with that for a while and I'm not even kidding you shadow I
00:53:28.480 I had like not um traditional therapy but I had different therapists that I worked with
00:53:34.240 for trauma because it was bringing up some of my past stuff as well so that was the gift for me
00:53:39.960 that I got to work on healing um it really it really pushed me into healing but so now what I
00:53:46.580 do is a lot of people because I don't respond really anymore and I'm basically hardly ever
00:53:51.440 on Twitter but on Instagram I get like really nothing but uh I send people love I try like
00:53:57.760 sometimes I'll be like wow you know you're I'll make some kind of a comment but shooting hate
00:54:03.520 back isn't gonna it doesn't do anything it actually makes you look just as bad so sometimes
00:54:08.540 I'll even say to people remember Jesus loves even you right interesting you know what now and I as
00:54:15.040 I look at your sporting careers both of you uh Jamie you know you didn't have to go into a posing
00:54:20.940 arenas and face 16 or 17 000 screaming fans uh wanting your head you got a lot of love you were
00:54:28.700 canada's sweetheart for years uh when the gold medal is she still is you know i i didn't always
00:54:36.080 have the crowd like i mean we'd have fans in the crowd there were some times where you know we went
00:54:40.780 to russia once we didn't get to compete because we got food poison i'm sure that was just an
00:54:47.360 accident though we show up we went to the opening ceremony thing and we did the draw and we were
00:54:59.780 skating wherever skating and then we went to bed and we woke up and dave's sick is sick man anyway
00:55:06.500 the russian beaver fever yeah oh yeah you know you dude you had to go into opposing arenas for
00:55:15.460 years even in your junior career you suck flurry so i guess you maybe were used to a little bit of
00:55:21.420 that he loved it he pushed you and motivated you more to you oh yeah yeah so you get it on social 0.97
00:55:29.540 media today it probably doesn't bother you so much yeah no but shadow the one thing that i love more 0.99
00:55:36.240 than anything else in the whole entire world is shoving it up people's asses 0.86
00:55:42.300 seriously there is no better feeling for me means information yeah yeah right of course 0.85
00:55:53.080 yes knowledge yes 0.98
00:55:56.120 i will shut knowledge right up your ass exactly this is the same thing this is the best interview 0.99
00:56:05.660 we've done Theo this is the same this is the same thing because I wish I had a dollar for every time 0.99
00:56:15.120 when I started playing hockey till I finally got it to the NHL I don't know how many people
00:56:20.980 said to me you're too small and you're never gonna make it well guess what those people are still 0.98
00:56:27.420 trying to pull that out of their ass right now you know what I mean and so that that's what 0.99
00:56:33.260 motivates me every day is that's my attitude, right? You call me this, I'm going to show you, 0.99
00:56:42.700 I'm going to show you, I'm going to prove it to you. And I don't care. I don't care, right?
00:56:50.080 This to me, it, well, there's nobody that loves winning more than I do, right? Nobody loves
00:56:58.400 winning more than i do i've done winning my whole entire life and i don't plan on losing this battle
00:57:05.380 here that we have right now hey what's more important do you love winning more than you hate
00:57:10.600 losing yes yes yeah losing losing losing sucks like there is yeah it is yeah yeah but okay but
00:57:24.560 i love it i love it you know it fueled it fueled me as an athlete and it fuels me as a political
00:57:33.960 commentator you know it just fuels me right it doesn't bother me one bit um because like i said
00:57:43.760 i know that i am standing in my truth for the first time in my life i started in 2009 when i
00:57:51.440 rope playing with fire. And by me standing in my truth, it inspired a whole generation of people
00:58:00.440 that were carrying the same secret as me to come out and tell the world what happened to them.
00:58:07.120 Right. And this is no different. This is no different. We need strong, godly masculinity
00:58:15.640 masculinity at this time right now more than we've ever needed it at any point in human history
00:58:22.740 and they can call it uh toxic masculinity it's not toxic it's godly it's god okay i've got one
00:58:34.240 last question for you guys and i want to let everybody know by the way that if you want to
00:58:38.960 see all the interviews that jamie and theo have done you can go to canadiansfortruth.ca it's all
00:58:44.180 in the in the archive section there's some great stuff they've done good work both of you
00:58:48.360 in serious now seriousness I'm going to put each of you separately in a room with Justin Trudeau
00:58:56.100 you've got five minutes and I want to know what you would what if you could remove emotion and
00:59:03.600 I know it's difficult what would you say to this guy well I would say to Justin
00:59:09.860 uh we know that you have gone through klaus schwab's uh school of leadership world economic
00:59:21.460 forum um we know what the end goal is we know what you're trying to do um but you know all
00:59:33.020 communist regimes, you know, implode and come to an end. They don't last forever. So I would say
00:59:41.620 to Justin, here's your opportunity and here's your chance to apologize to the country and
00:59:49.960 give us the opportunity to forgive you for what you have done to this country. That's what I would
00:59:57.760 say to him i would say confess all your sins and let uh canadians uh forgive you right here's your
01:00:10.240 opportunity here's your chance to tell us your sins because we know he's being blackmailed
01:00:17.840 we know that that he had they have stuff on him that he doesn't want anybody to um come out and
01:00:26.700 Well, it's pretty much an open secret in Ottawa and in some parts of the country.
01:00:30.660 We don't know what you're talking about.
01:00:32.080 But I would say to him, Justin, I was the same way.
01:00:35.080 I didn't want anybody to know about my sexual abuse.
01:00:37.600 I didn't want anybody to know the details, how it happened, whatever.
01:00:41.900 But you know what?
01:00:42.520 I told my story and pretty much most people in my life have forgiven me for my actions
01:00:51.360 because I was hiding a secret.
01:00:53.180 and Justin is hiding lots of deep, dark secrets.
01:00:58.060 And I would say to him,
01:00:59.480 here's your opportunity to tell the country
01:01:02.080 your sins, what you've done
01:01:04.800 and let us, give us the opportunity to forgive you.
01:01:09.880 That's what I would say to him.
01:01:11.820 Jamie?
01:01:14.740 He's way better human than I am.
01:01:17.880 Oh, go ahead.
01:01:18.820 I mean, like, I mean...
01:01:19.540 Oh, I'm sitting here,
01:01:20.780 like I'm actually listening to Theo's what he's saying and I actually I'm like wow Theo that's
01:01:27.120 really powerful that's very godly also because forgiveness is huge although there's many of us
01:01:34.100 that aren't quite ready for that that yet um he's completely destroyed so many families and lives so
01:01:41.140 but but Theo's right I think for me that speaking to someone of his nature or someone like him
01:01:49.520 there isn't really anything that any of us can say that's going to change the outcome or him or
01:01:56.780 whatever so I again I'm kind of giving you a lame answer here but I'm like I don't even
01:02:01.420 I don't even think I could get in the room no I know what you mean I mean it's interesting I've
01:02:06.980 thought of that as well I worked on you know corporate media radio for years and I've
01:02:12.320 interviewed politicians from every stripe from all over the country and if faced somebody asked
01:02:18.940 me this a few weeks ago if faced with the opportunity to interview this guy would you do it
01:02:24.720 and i said i don't know if i could do it you tell the truth professionally he wouldn't tell
01:02:30.420 anyway yeah and that's the other thing you know you'd want to reach across the desk and he's fake
01:02:36.900 and they lie and i just go like what like what's he gonna say that we're all gonna go oh except
01:02:43.460 what leo's asking for is to be honest and tell the truth about his life and what he's done and
01:02:48.980 what he's been a part of that's the only interview i would want well yeah and the only reason why i
01:02:54.960 come at it at this at this angle is i understand trauma i understand trauma yeah and if you look
01:03:04.500 at justin trudeau's childhood yeah he's traumatized and so klaus schwab as an abuser
01:03:13.820 saw that he could play off of justin's trauma as a child because justin just wants he wants to be
01:03:24.540 belong he just wants to belong somewhere anywhere doesn't matter because he was neglected abandoned
01:03:31.000 as a kid would you compare klaus schwab to graham james absolutely 100 percent
01:03:38.240 a user abuser wow well what what do pedophile abusers use as tactics manipulation coercion
01:03:49.820 lying cheating stealing and no nobody not one commentator has talked about systemic government
01:03:58.540 abuse nobody's talked about systemic government abuse yeah we talk about systemic racism and
01:04:05.300 systemic this and systemic that but we don't ever talk about systemic government abuse
01:04:11.860 and it's been happening for a hundred for a hundred years or maybe even longer
01:04:19.460 you know and so when you traumatize a society which they've done yeah right
01:04:27.220 What happens? Well, you're ruling the people by fear. You're not ruling the people by
01:04:36.220 compassion and empathy and forgiveness and all these wonderful things. You're ruling
01:04:42.660 on fear. And it's been the biggest fear campaign. The last four years have been
01:04:48.520 the biggest fear campaign. And nobody's really talked about it from a psychological
01:04:53.660 perspective, right? We are in a spiritual and psychological war. We're not in a, you know,
01:05:03.360 tanks, artillery, guns, machine guns. We're not there yet. We're in a spiritual and psychological
01:05:11.680 war. And the psychological war, what? What has come out of this psychological war? The biggest
01:05:20.920 pandemic in the world which is mental illness well how did we get there systemic government
01:05:28.380 abuse is how we got to uh the epidemic of mental illness on the planet that's how we got there
01:05:38.000 because trauma is connected to mental illness and trauma is connected to addiction so what did we
01:05:46.160 see happen at the beginning of COVID. We saw a spike in opioid use. We saw a spike in mental
01:05:53.300 illness. We saw a spike in pseudo suicidal ideation. And then ultimately people taking
01:06:00.620 their own people taking their own lives. Yeah. So, you know, and it's all been are only just
01:06:10.860 now coming out. Right. And we're, we're getting overwhelmed with them. You know, this is a
01:06:15.680 fantastic conversation that could go on all night you guys but instead of that we invite you guys
01:06:21.040 to come and see us at pwn's concert hall in winkler manitoba on friday september 22nd
01:06:27.720 and joseph borgo joe is going to be there with us too that's going to be a fun night
01:06:31.680 so people are people are listening tonight um the fire and ice live events are the actual show is
01:06:43.700 great but what we've found is we have uh by creating a space wherever we are it's just a
01:06:55.620 bunch of people getting together who are like-minded who are looking for a place to
01:07:03.260 be themselves because we can't you know a lot of those people that come to our events
01:07:08.820 they can't be themselves out in the real world and they and they come to our events
01:07:14.800 and they leave inspired hopeful a whole bunch of new friends that they didn't even know that they
01:07:23.080 had you know so to me if if you're out in the winkler area and you're feeling down and you're
01:07:30.960 feeling you know hopeless or whatever it is just come to the event and i guarantee you by the end
01:07:38.640 of it you will leave inspired hopeful you'll have a jump in your step you'll be full of dopamine
01:07:44.740 and serotonin and all these wonderful chemicals you know yeah it'll be it'll be great we we do a
01:07:54.240 a meet and greet before the show and then we're going to do it just like the one we did in
01:07:57.920 right yeah okay we'll be there before we'll be there after we'll talk to everybody we'll take
01:08:04.620 pictures and you know it'll be it'll be an awesome wonderful evening like people from
01:08:10.240 russell are already texting me saying you're gonna be a winkler i'm going i'm coming you know
01:08:17.200 you know what's so cool about these events too and and now we're gonna see it even more when we
01:08:21.740 travel uh outside of the province i'm so sorry about my dogs you guys um but what's really cool
01:08:28.960 is that we're we're creating bridges like heather and i were even talking about that today and we're
01:08:34.180 connecting with other freedom groups and which is so powerful right like obviously we have a
01:08:40.500 following and we appreciate those people but when you start bringing other freedom groups together
01:08:45.140 and we're bridging you know so many different communities and it's just beautiful and this is
01:08:51.040 what Canada needs to do we need to unite we need to all come together I don't care how awake you
01:08:56.100 are to every little thing that's going on it doesn't matter we don't care if you're vaccinated
01:09:00.160 or not vaccinated there's no discrimination we just want everyone who's like-minded who gets
01:09:06.920 what's going on that you know we are living under a tyrannical regime here and we need to stop this
01:09:13.300 and that's it's all about connecting with people and lifting each other up raising our vibration
01:09:20.400 and you know and and showing gratitude because and love i'm telling you guys we all know that
01:09:28.620 the minute the first time that we all experienced an event where there was like more than three
01:09:34.500 people at right just the love that you could feel coming from everybody i mean they're strangers
01:09:40.840 they're strangers everyone's a stranger and even theo and i talk about messages we get from people
01:09:45.600 it's like i don't know who they are but i'm like i love you yeah yeah and and and one of the things
01:09:53.320 that we've discovered shadow is that conservatism lives in rural canada it doesn't live it it doesn't
01:10:01.940 live in the big cities anymore you know we saw a perfect example uh with the uh premier election
01:10:08.740 here in alberta edmonton and calgary are both orange and if it wasn't for rural alberta rachel
01:10:16.760 Notley would be the premier and we would already be locked down and we would be the vaccine. We'd
01:10:24.600 all be wearing masks. There'd be forced vaccinations, you name it. So we realized that
01:10:30.520 we needed to get out to rural Canada and be with the real true patriots of this country. People
01:10:36.760 who work hard farmers you know uh work people who just work hard and all they want is to provide
01:10:46.900 for their families and and we don't we don't want government involved in any aspect of our life
01:10:54.600 patriots and rural canadians know how to take care of themselves and not only do they know how to
01:11:00.500 take care of themselves but they when they're successful what do they do they also take care
01:11:05.520 of their communities as well and so when we do that kind of stuff there's nothing that can stop
01:11:12.420 us they can't stop they can't stop that hold on just a second you're talking about rural Canada
01:11:18.180 and I agree with you and we face that same issue here in Manitoba with an election in early October
01:11:23.660 uh Wab Canoe versus uh the current Premier Heather Stephenson so hopefully we can pull that one out
01:11:29.180 because you're right if if the orange wins there's going to be masks and mandates and all that stuff
01:11:34.020 coming back but wait a minute now i see that this is part of the hometown tour the truth
01:11:40.020 canadians for truth hometown tour have you got other locations lined up or uh is this the only
01:11:47.180 one are we asking people to hey come here come here like how are we working this uh this thing
01:11:51.960 like how we would prefer is if you know you are in rural canada and you are a part of a big freedom
01:11:59.700 group get a hold of heather heather prozac at caves for truth and you know if if you want to
01:12:09.520 organize a fire and ice event with with the the four of us right shadow jamie me and joseph
01:12:19.320 if you put people people's butts in the seats and we'll we'll go anywhere right we will go anywhere
01:12:27.780 I'm coming with you guys
01:12:30.040 I thought I was just here for the Manitoba
01:12:32.100 Of course
01:12:33.300 Of course
01:12:35.160 Thanks for letting me know
01:12:36.960 Well we need
01:12:40.340 Somebody to interview the three
01:12:42.420 Of us so what better
01:12:44.560 Guy what better guy
01:12:46.280 To do it than you
01:12:48.180 You were
01:12:50.060 All in gold there Shadow
01:12:51.880 All in gold
01:12:52.900 All right you guys thank you very much
01:12:56.120 for coming on tonight i look forward to seeing you in winkler on friday the 22nd we want to see
01:13:00.880 you guys there as well uh it's been a pleasure talking to you guys again and we will see you
01:13:05.660 soon thank you for being on can i just mention a couple things sure uh we have dr peter mccullough
01:13:13.560 right yes good job the november the 9th in red deer here and the tickets are going fast and furious
01:13:24.500 so if you'd like to come make sure that you log on to our website um and when you log on to our
01:13:32.180 website please please sign up for a membership so that we can communicate with you on a daily
01:13:40.020 basis we send newsletters out you'll get all of our interviews first before anybody else um
01:13:47.380 And then, who do we have in Calgary?
01:13:51.560 Rodney Palmer coming up.
01:13:53.560 Oh, he's the former CBC journalist, Rodney Palmer.
01:13:57.280 He was at the NCI, testified there in Atlanta, Canada.
01:14:01.520 Yeah, that's going to be a good one.
01:14:02.920 Yeah, we're excited that he's coming.
01:14:05.280 So, yeah, we've got lots of great things happening at Canadians for Truth.
01:14:10.060 And just wanted to make everybody aware.
01:14:13.120 go to canadiesfortruth.ca
01:14:15.880 and find out what the hell we're doing
01:14:17.920 because we're having fun
01:14:19.040 we're having fun
01:14:20.200 and you know
01:14:21.560 it's funny because people
01:14:24.620 always ask me what do you do for a living
01:14:26.900 Theo
01:14:27.220 and I thought to myself when I go
01:14:30.420 you know what I collect people
01:14:32.680 that's what I do
01:14:34.240 that's my job I collect people
01:14:36.260 and you know when you turn the light
01:14:38.860 on for people guess what
01:14:40.800 happens they never leave you
01:14:43.120 so that's sort of what we want to try and do at Canadians for truth is turn on your light bulb
01:14:50.900 and uh you know we want you to join join the greatest team ever assembled in the history
01:14:59.680 of Canada is patriots and freedom lovers nicely said my friend so moved
01:15:09.860 i'm teasing i'm teasing come come to wink come to winkler and see see the uh the awesome uh
01:15:24.480 amazing show but more importantly but more importantly come for the uh come for the
01:15:30.160 camaraderie and uh yeah yeah and the laughter you know what and then i will let you get rid of us
01:15:36.320 it's so important to find laughter in all of this we have like that's one thing that we do
01:15:44.960 well when we're all together hey shadow oh yeah yes it's been a lot of laughing tonight even
01:15:51.200 yes yeah thanks thanks you guys we'll see you soon we'll see do you know how to get the
01:15:59.520 Winkler, or do we got to pick you up?
01:16:01.440 It's an hour and a half straight
01:16:03.740 southwest.
01:16:06.540 Because
01:16:07.020 Joe's driving, and we have no
01:16:09.660 idea when Joe's driving.
01:16:12.320 No way.
01:16:15.360 I'll see you guys soon.
01:16:17.860 There goes Jamie. Take it easy, you guys.
01:16:19.920 All right, there is Theo and
01:16:21.860 Jamie, Canadians for truth.ca.
01:16:29.520 You know what, guys? I had some more stuff I wanted to show you tonight, but, you know, it was a bit of a downer.
01:16:37.080 And I want to leave you on a good note tonight, so we're just going to wrap it up there.
01:16:41.780 September 22nd, it's a Friday night. Join us in Winkler.
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01:17:19.220 I think Dana Metcalf, I'm not sure about this yet, but I think Dana Metcalf will be coming on again tomorrow night to update us on the OneMillionMarchForChildren.com.
01:17:37.100 The Winnipeg March will be leaving from the Forks at 11 o'clock a.m.
01:17:44.320 That's in the morning, not at night.
01:17:46.060 11 a.m. from the forks the forks that's the official walk 11 a.m. from the forks to the
01:17:56.700 legislature and at noon we have some very high profile speakers including a couple of surprise
01:18:02.800 guests coming out to speak to the crowd who we're hoping will number in the thousands
01:18:08.880 millionmarchforchildren.com
01:18:14.480 and again the winnipeg march no matter what other poster you see
01:18:19.800 okay the official march for kids in winnipeg is happening from the forks going to the ledge
01:18:31.020 starting at 11 o'clock meeting starts at nine and goes to 11 o'clock we'll have sound system set up
01:18:37.680 at both locations the cn stage at the forks and then on the west grounds of the legislature
01:18:43.580 and that's it for the show tonight you guys i hope you enjoyed thank you to patriot smoothie
01:18:48.720 you can find him on all social media at patriot smoothie for giving us a report on the tamara
01:18:53.640 leach chris barber trial going on in ottawa today was day three uh catch you tomorrow night eight
01:18:58.760 o'clock for another shadow at night live stream until then have a great rest of your evening and
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