00:14:05.600And I know that gets overused and sometimes gets used in a comical way.
00:14:09.560But I am very serious when I say that. So without ado, let's give you the interview right here.
00:14:16.440I am pleased to have as my guest tonight, Harley Schlanger, who is the vice president of the Schiller Institute and the chief spokesperson for the LaRouche organization with us tonight.
00:14:28.400harley thank you so much for joining the show especially considering that you're
00:14:32.640six hours away and thousands of miles away in in i was going to say the country that you're in but
00:14:40.960i'm not sure if you want me to do that simply because you're on a uh a war criminal list put
00:14:45.840out by ukraine so maybe well i can i'm in potsdam germany just for the record and uh
00:14:53.760And I am on a list, and they're trying to intimidate me and silence me, and it's not working.
00:15:00.040Okay, so I want to get into that off the top.
00:15:02.720But first, if you could explain, please, the Schiller Institute and the LaRouche Organization and the man the LaRouche Organization is named after.
00:15:12.400Well, Lyndon LaRouche, he passed away in February 2019.
00:15:18.580I first met him virtually 50 years ago in November 1972.
00:15:23.760but he began his organizing with interventions into the student movement, the anti-war movement
00:15:31.180in the late 60s. And what he said was wrong with the anti-war movement is that there was no
00:15:37.040economic perspective. It was against the war, which was the right thing to do. But why were
00:15:42.100we in the war? Who's driving this policy? Why did the United States take over the role of
00:15:48.500enforcing colonialism in Vietnam from the French. And so he basically said to us, you've got to
00:15:54.720learn some things, learn economics. And one of his first major forecasts was in the late 60s
00:16:00.700that we were heading toward a dollar crisis, a crash of the dollar. And this was after the pound
00:16:08.640had already crashed. And the British were trying to bring down the dollar. So what they were doing
00:16:13.240is they were turning in all their euro dollars for gold, because we still had a gold reserve
00:16:17.740status for the dollar. Well, Richard Nixon in November 1971 decided to take the dollar off
00:16:24.920the gold reserve system and break the Bretton Woods system, which was a fixed exchange rate
00:16:30.380system set up after World War II. And LaRouche warned that this would be a catastrophe because
00:16:37.280it would open the door for disintegration of advanced sector economies into speculative
00:16:45.060of bubbles, shifting away from real physical economic production to speculation. And that's
00:16:53.600really how he first made his name as an economist, whose forecast turned out to be accurate about
00:17:00.120August 15th, 1971. He made many other forecasts, and he became quite a controversial international
00:17:09.880figure, meeting with presidents. He was actually brought in by Ronald Reagan, even though LaRouche
00:17:15.980had oriented toward the Democratic Party. This is the old Democratic Party. Right, the centrist one.
00:17:22.880When it was still anti-CIA and anti-FBI. Yeah. But LaRouche was brought in by Reagan to negotiate
00:17:30.120with the Soviet Union on something called the Strategic Defense Initiative, which LaRouche,
00:17:35.340along with Edward Teller, were the two, you might say, inventors of the system, the idea of using
00:17:42.480new physical principles, lasers and so on, to destroy nuclear missiles in flight. Reagan liked
00:17:48.600the idea, and he asked LaRouche to go negotiate with the Soviets. And Reagan was prepared to
00:17:54.580share this with the Soviets to take us away from Henry Kissinger's system of mutual and assured
00:18:00.300destruction. Andropov rejected it. Gorbachev then later rejected it. And the jihad against
00:18:13.440LaRouche began, especially after Reagan supported LaRouche's policies. Kissinger was one of the
00:18:21.860leaders of it. He went to William Webster at the FBI and said, you've got to shut down the LaRouche
00:18:26.460organization. British intelligence was demanding that the FBI do something about LaRouche
00:18:32.360because they said LaRouche is KGB. We were attacked as KGB, CIA, FBI, Nazis, communists.
00:18:41.720But the important thing is that LaRouche became known internationally as an opponent of the
00:18:47.360neoconservatives who took over the Republicans in the 1970s and 80s, and then took over the
00:18:53.680Democrats in the 1990s, and also against the neoliberals. And in particular, LaRouche identified
00:19:00.860these currents of neoconservatives and neoliberals with the British Empire. And I know for Canadian
00:19:07.580listeners, many of you may have fallen for the brainwashing that the British Empire ended a long
00:19:13.340time ago. But I'm sure many of you realize that there still is a British Empire. It's not the
00:19:19.240same empire as it was before World War II, but it's a financial empire based in the city of
00:19:24.980London. And Canada is under that empire. And so, you know, it's important to see that LaRouche
00:19:33.300became controversial because he didn't pull his punches. He named who he thought were the real
00:19:38.620enemies of not just the United States, but of Western civilization. And he went around the
00:19:44.740world to recruit other countries to join his idea of establishing a new Bretton Woods to replace
00:19:51.600what Nixon sabotaged, but without the problems of the original Bretton Woods, including things
00:19:57.760such as the International Monetary Fund and so on. So that's a brief introduction to LaRouche.
00:20:06.260You know, he had meetings, for example, with Indira Gandhi on a number of occasions.
00:20:10.860Lopez Portillo, the president of Mexico during the Mexico debt crisis in 1980,
00:20:16.060called in LaRouche to ask him for his ideas on what could be done about it.
00:20:20.680So we still maintain the organization.
00:20:24.540In 1984, we established a think tank called the Schiller Institute.
00:20:28.820And the Schiller Institute comes from the poet Friedrich Schiller,
00:20:33.900whose idea was that you can be a patriot of your country,
00:20:37.320but at the same time, a world citizen.
00:20:40.020And it was Mrs. LaRouche who introduced this idea to us.
00:20:43.720And the idea is that we need international coordination and cooperation to break the power of Wall Street and the city of London.
00:20:56.260and LaRouche came up with an idea in the late 1990s that the basis for this would be an alliance
00:21:03.780between the United States, Russia, India, and China as four nations powerful enough to stand
00:21:10.700up to the city of London and Wall Street. Now Russia, India, and China are doing that through
00:21:16.160the BRICS and the BRICS are becoming increasingly popular. Unfortunately, the United States and
00:21:22.620Britain remain intertwined in the so-called special relationship, where in the old days,
00:21:29.940it was the Americans were the bully on the British leash. People now see the collapse of
00:21:39.240the United Kingdom and say, what's happening? But if you look at U.S. policy, much of it comes from
00:21:45.020the intersection of the city of London and think tanks such as Chatham House and the American
00:21:51.680Chatham House affiliate, the Council on Foreign Relations. So we've been in a fight for years
00:21:57.920against these oligarchical systems, against their policies, against their zero growth plans.
00:22:05.900And LaRouche became very well known for putting forward economic development plans
00:22:10.440for virtually every region in the world. So that's the background.
00:22:15.220Let me ask you this. We go back to 1971 when Nixon blew up the Bretton Woods system, the gold standard system. Has this fight been going on that long or or does it even predate that? And the second part of this question is, who exactly are we up against here?
00:22:34.480that's the big question it does predate that this was a fight in the 1930s between or the 40s I
00:22:44.680should say during the war between Roosevelt and Churchill because Roosevelt during the period of
00:22:51.500the war insisted that the post-war be shaped by an end to colonialism and he had a number of
00:22:59.920dinners he had with Churchill, where Churchill would say things about what the post-war world
00:23:06.760would look like, and Roosevelt would say, no, no, no, Winston, Americans are never going to die
00:23:11.420again for the British Empire. And someone who was at those dinners, Elliot Roosevelt, Franklin's son,
00:23:18.260wrote a book, which talks about what happened at those dinners. And he said, every time this issue
00:23:23.540came up, Churchill turned purple, started sputtering, and basically said, you don't understand
00:23:29.540what the British Empire has meant to the world. And Roosevelt said, well, I do understand.
00:23:35.160Remember, our nation was founded in opposition to that British Empire. Now, what happened at the
00:23:42.280original conference after the war, the Bretton Woods Conference, is that Roosevelt was fighting
00:23:48.680two fronts. One was a group of Americans who wanted to destroy Germany after the war. They
00:23:55.020wanted to turn it into a poor agricultural country. And Roosevelt said that that makes no sense.
00:24:01.700But the other grouping essentially said that we must nevertheless maintain the general system
00:24:09.720of the British Empire, which is a free market, free trade system. And Roosevelt said, no,
00:24:16.440that's not what we're going to do, because you can't develop poor countries unless they have
00:24:21.700sovereignty, unless they have a capability to generate credit, which will be acceptable
00:24:27.780to trading partners. And so that was the fight going into the Bretton Woods conference.
00:24:34.660Unfortunately, John Maynard Keynes won the battle and Roosevelt died. Roosevelt was not there to
00:24:41.420steer it through. And so the U.S. side made compromises, including setting up the International
00:24:47.560Monetary Fund, which at first was not so important, but later became a key element to
00:24:52.360it. But the break with colonialism was not fully inscribed in the Bretton Woods system.
00:25:01.060And that was why during the 50s and 60s, we had the wars, for example, Vietnam, we had
00:25:07.320coups, such as in Iran. Much of the post-war period is focused on the US-Soviet Cold War
00:25:17.600the Berlin Wall, and so on. But the other side of it was the British, the Belgians, the French,
00:25:23.520the Portuguese, and others insisting on keeping remnants of colonialism, if not actually
00:25:29.100controlling the colonies, controlling the credit policy. And the question of gold has always been
00:25:34.960at the center of this fight. Do you have the right to create fiat money, money based on the
00:25:41.700so-called goodwill of a country with nothing behind it? And of course, when the United States
00:25:46.500dollar became the basis of the financial system after World War II, there was something behind
00:25:52.120it. The United States had a full set machine tool capability, technology sectors, advanced
00:25:59.800industry, advanced agriculture. It was an economic power. And so the dollar's value was based largely
00:26:07.880on the economic, the real economy of the United States. And if that weren't enough, then you had
00:26:13.720the gold reserve basis. But very rarely did anyone fear that the dollar was a problem and demand gold
00:26:20.660for their dollars. It was only under the conditions of an economic crisis that developed first in
00:26:28.180Europe and then in Britain in the late 60s that the decision was made to force the United States
00:26:33.900to either turn over its gold or accept fundamental change to the Bretton Woods system. Let me ask you
00:26:40.960a question I'm sorry to interrupt but I heard a story a couple of weeks ago that fascinated me
00:26:45.740when all of this was taking place when the U.S. was coming the world was coming off the the gold
00:26:51.240standard that the French parked a warship off the coast of the United States I think it was New York
00:26:58.660and they said we're not moving this until you give us all of our gold that you have stored is that
00:27:06.520true? Well, it sounds true. The French gold bugs were quite significant around De Gaulle.
00:27:15.660And they were committed. They didn't want to take the gold. They wanted the U.S. to stay on the gold
00:27:21.840standard. And the gold standard then was a gold reserve standard. It was not the hard gold standard
00:27:27.920of $1 of gold is related to $1 of paper currency. It was a fractional system, a reserve system.
00:27:35.680But the French gold bugs were afraid that the United States would use a break with the reserve system to do exactly what they did, which is to create a funny money system globally.
00:27:50.360The British were perfectly happy to do that because the British were, because of the raw materials cartels, the various, the oil cartel, much of which was from London or the Netherlands.
00:28:33.440moved away from the Federal Reserve System. In June 1963, he issued an executive order, 11-1-10,
00:28:42.940which called for the issuing of treasury notes because the Federal Reserve was restricting
00:28:48.220credit. And the steel industry needed credit, and they couldn't get it. So Kennedy issued an order
00:28:55.880to send out U.S. Treasury notes as opposed to Federal Reserve notes. And when that happened,
00:29:04.140the British said, we've lost control of Jack. And this, I think, along with his anti-colonial policy
00:29:12.640and his willingness to negotiate with the Soviets was why Kennedy was killed.
00:29:18.040So when you get to 71... Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. There was a couple of references
00:29:23.460Kennedy made during his tenure as president to a dark cabal that was trying to eat the country
00:29:30.560from the inside yeah Kennedy had an opportunity to meet with Eisenhower and General MacArthur
00:29:37.820and even though Eisenhower and MacArthur had some disagreements Eisenhower once said MacArthur was
00:29:44.700the best assistant he ever had but he made the point that he was an aide not not an equal but
00:29:51.580the two of them told Kennedy about the fights they had with the political networks in the military
00:29:59.480who are tied to the Wall Street networks. And this is why Eisenhower, on his way out the door
00:30:06.160of the White House, made his famous speech about beware the military industrial complex.
00:30:11.500And what Kennedy understood it was that it wasn't just the military and the defense contractors,
00:30:16.340But the corporate cartels that were allied with them. And this is the point that has to be understood when you ask who's the enemy, who's responsible for these bad policies.
00:30:29.360The people who advised Nixon on breaking with the dollar, I mean, breaking with the gold standard, were a very small group of people centered around George Shultz, who became very important in the last quarter century of the last century, Paul Volcker, who became the Federal Reserve Chairman, who chaired a commission called the 1980s Commission, which called for the controlled disintegration of the world economy.
00:30:59.360That is, the original Great Reset was from a group called the Trilateral Commission, which Volcker worked with.
00:31:07.460And also involved in this small cabal was Kissinger.
00:31:12.160And they went to John Conley, who was the Treasury Secretary.
00:31:16.620And most books will tell you Conley was the one who convinced Nixon to make the break in August 1971.
00:31:23.560I met with Conley when he was in hard times.
00:31:27.420He went bankrupt in the mid-80s because of bad oil.
00:31:31.900The oil industry collapsed and his investments collapsed.
00:31:35.240So he had an auction to sell off all his goods to pay his debt.
00:31:38.960And he was sitting in the back of a room looking very sad.
00:31:42.480And I went up to him and I asked him if he realizes that all this happened because of the decision in 1971 to take the dollar off gold because it created a speculative rather than a physical economy.
00:31:55.580And I said, was that your idea? And he said, well, no, I was elected to go tell Nixon about it by Volcker, Schultz, and Arthur Burns, the former Federal Reserve chairman. Who did those guys represent?
00:32:10.760The Federal Reserve is an agency, it's a private agency, run by private banks. This is the global financial elite in New York, and you have the same thing with the Bank of England in London. They're not government institutions, they're private institutions.
00:32:29.020And they represent, at their heart, a group which believes that you should have corporate cartels over and above government. This is what people call the New World Order.
00:32:42.580or, yeah. But nations should not have sovereign rights to interfere with their deliberations.
00:32:50.860And this became the basis of after the fall of the Soviet Union, the United States adopting this
00:32:57.340idea that we're the sole superpower. We can tell the whole world what to do, and everyone has to
00:33:03.000listen to us. But it goes back to this fight in the early 70s, where it wasn't fully clear after
00:33:09.300August 15th, 1971, where it would go. But shortly after that, they had a monetary
00:33:14.820gathering, finance ministers from around the world, central bankers, and they decided to go
00:33:21.580totally with floating exchange rates. Now, floating exchange rates mean that you don't
00:33:27.780have to balance your currencies against each other. You can use other instruments such as
00:33:34.440special drawing rights from the International Monetary Fund, so-called paper gold, but
00:33:39.340essentially that you can blow up the money supply as you see fit, as the bankers need
00:33:44.900it, and that you don't have to worry about the investments in the physical economy, nor
00:33:51.340do you have to worry about debt, because if you get too far in debt, you just create more
00:33:56.700And so these fights in the early 70s set us on a course of the bubble economy, the financialization of the world economy, and so on, which is why we're seeing a collapse of the system today, because there's nothing underlying it.
00:34:14.140And the poorer countries of the so-called developing sector were the targets of this. They were looted for their raw materials and for cheap labor.
00:34:24.560And now they're seeing in Russia and China, countries that are big enough to stand up against this banker's cabal centered in largely London and Washington and secondarily in the bureaucracy in Brussels, the European Union, European Central Bank.
00:35:09.100Now we're seeing Brazil, South Africa, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Algeria, Mexico saying the same thing. So who's really at the center of this?
00:35:20.720You have the five eyes countries, which include Canada, New Zealand, Australia, the U.S. and the United Kingdom, and the weak governments of Western Europe, which have made the fatal decision to commit suicide on behalf of so-called NATO and the sole superpower.
00:35:42.280So all of this, you're absolutely right.
00:35:43.940It goes back to this. And by the way, on this gold question for France, Jacques Rueff, R-U-E-F-F, was the gold bug who was very close to De Gaulle. And Rueff was the one who warned De Gaulle that it would be a mistake to go along with the U.S. policies because the U.S. had no commitment to a physical economy.
00:36:09.800This was in the 60s. This is when de Gaulle decided to take France out of NATO because he didn't trust the United States. And the issue was the economic issue underlying it and the question of sovereignty versus outside supranational institutions controlling nations.
00:36:27.720It's interesting that LaRouche was able to predict what was going to happen today based upon what he saw happening back in the late 60s and the early 1970s. He saw this, didn't he?
00:36:40.080Well, that's, you know, I used to go to these lectures with LaRouche and you'd be astounded by his grasp of history and physical processes. LaRouche called himself a Leibnizian and an American system economist.
00:36:55.540Now, Leibniz, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, was one of the great scientists of the 17th century, and he developed a concept of physical economy from the dynamics that he understood from the way the physical universe operated.
00:37:12.340He worked for a while with Colbert in France when France was becoming a nation.
00:37:18.160But Leibniz's ideas were studied by the founding fathers.
00:37:22.200Very few people know this because we're drilled in the United States as John Locke. It's Lord Shelburne. It's Jeremy Bentham. These are the British Democrats who helped found the American Republic. No, not at all.
00:37:38.160While Leibniz was studied extensively by Franklin, it was Leibniz who presented the idea of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness as the goal of government, rather than life, liberty, and property, which was John Locke's conception.
00:37:54.420And what did Leibniz mean by pursuit of happiness?
00:37:56.740That we have to have a higher goal in our life than merely acquiring wealth and experiences.
00:38:04.880That we have to think about our role in shaping a better future.
00:38:09.740And that that's what gives us happiness, knowing that we're leaving the world better than we found it and creating something better in the future.
00:38:16.620That was the idea that Franklin discussed with Hamilton and Madison and John Jay and the people who drafted the Declaration of Independence in the American Constitution.
00:38:27.060And this is what LaRouche understood, which has been written out of the history books, because even though we won the American Revolution against the British, defeated them again in 1812, and then again in the Civil War, because the Civil War, the British were supporting the South, trying to break the United States apart.
00:38:46.720even though we won those fights the british won what you might call the the uh warfare
00:38:55.300the intelligence warfare of the 20th century because they got the united states to back up
00:39:02.040the british empire in world war one and the in the versailles agreement the united states went
00:39:09.640along with that because woodrow wilson was a bit of a nut what's interesting is here we are 100
00:39:17.720years later and it seems as though the americans are willing to do the british bidding yet again
00:39:24.100when it comes to the situation in ukraine i know and i want to get back to the uh the list that
00:39:30.280you're on apparently this ukrainian list of war criminals that's come out there's 72 people on
00:39:35.100that list, if I'm not mistaken, you being one of them, number eight? Yeah, there are a few different
00:39:40.540lists. Before we come to that, let me just say one thing going back to this hundred years.
00:39:45.560Extremely important, after the Versailles Treaty was drafted, which was punishing Germany,
00:39:51.900and at the same time, the British policy was to cut off all economic relations with the Soviet
00:39:57.380Union, there was a conference in Italy to decide what to do about Germany, because Germany couldn't
00:40:03.940pay. Germany was strung out during the war. It had huge debts. And then you put on top of that
00:40:10.880hundreds of billions of pounds of reparations payments. They couldn't do it. And so the German
00:40:17.680foreign minister named Walter Rotenau, who's a very famous figure, his father was the founder
00:40:23.220of the German equivalent of General Electric. Rotenau was a scientist. He was a classical
00:40:29.320scholar, but he was also a ballsy political leader. And during this conference where Germany
00:40:36.040was being pushed to the wall, he had a separate meeting with the Soviet foreign minister in a
00:40:43.620town called Rapallo, and they signed something called the Rapallo Treaty. This was the worst
00:40:49.200nightmare for the British because the British, part of the reason for World War I was the British
00:40:53.820fear that if Germany and Russia hooked up economically in the early 1900s with the
00:41:00.440Trans-Siberian Railroad, the Berlin-Baghdad Railroad, and so on, it would undermine the
00:41:06.120power of the British Navy to enforce terms of trade and finance. So Mackinder, who developed
00:41:14.060this idea called geopolitics, the whole theory was that if you had an alliance between Central
00:41:20.780Europe and Eurasia. It would undermine the power of the British and the Americans. So it had to be
00:41:28.620stopped at all costs. And so that's why you ended up with the Triple Entente versus the Germans and
00:41:35.840Austrians in World War I. After the war, they did everything they could to destroy the potential for
00:41:41.860a German-Russian relationship. Because Germany had scientists, they had technology, they had,
00:42:10.620Now look at the German-Russian relationship today
00:42:14.080look at it after 1989 to today the fear that germany and russia would work together
00:42:21.800is what drives the british foreign office and chatham house and the council on foreign relations
00:42:28.120crazy and again that comes back to this this ukraine situation now if you have questions on
00:42:35.660that uh if not we can move to the i am fascinated because you know there's not a lot of people who
00:42:43.000know the inner workings of the relationships between uh these countries and you just talked
00:42:48.280about germany and russia's relationship uh during world war ii obviously it was a combative one
00:42:55.140um but since then you know since the unification of germany when the wall came down in 1989 1990
00:43:04.340uh we've we've seen a more friendly relationship between those two countries we're talking about
00:43:10.920the nordstrom pipelines here as well which were recently blown up and we still don't know who did
00:43:16.360that yet i think the russians think they know who did it yeah i think they do too and i think
00:43:21.320everybody pretty much knows who did that considering just the circumstances and the
00:43:26.860timeline of how that went down but it's fascinating you're this is like sitting in a class for me and
00:43:34.900I'm very much appreciative of it, and I hope all of our viewers are as well.
00:43:39.000It gives a lot of context to what is going on in the world right now
00:43:44.800between NATO, Ukraine, Russia, all of those BRICS nations.
00:43:52.320Is this going to be World War III, or is that just a lot of saber-rattling?
00:43:58.480Well, I think the Russians did something yesterday to take some of the wind out of the sails of a World War III scenario.
00:44:09.940You know, the line is out there that Putin's threatening to use nuclear weapons and Russia's going to escalate because they're losing the war.
00:44:17.600I mean, first of all, Russia's not losing the war.
00:45:18.580They had an agreement at the end of April for a ceasefire.
00:45:22.780And the idea of the ceasefire was that Russia demanded security guarantees,
00:45:28.600which go back to 1989, 1991, which we can come back to if you want.
00:45:34.780But the promises made to Russia when the Soviet Union fell were never fulfilled.
00:45:39.840And so Putin was saying, we cannot tolerate having a hostile force on our border with advanced weapons, including possibly nuclear weapons.
00:45:51.360And he tried to negotiate this from 2007 forward.
00:45:56.3402014, the Maidan coup in Ukraine, which was financed by Americans and people like George Soros, Victoria Nuland, who's now the number three person at the State Department, admitted in Maidan Square that she handed out $5 billion over a period of, I think, a decade to build the so-called democracy movement in Ukraine, which overthrew the elected democratic government of Yanukovych.
00:46:26.340And it was after that coup that the anti-Russian sentiment went through the roof among certain sectors of the Ukrainian population, namely those in Western Ukraine.
00:46:40.860And we can come back to that in a moment because it's very important for Canada because there is a large Ukrainian population there.
00:46:47.160and you have a deputy prime minister who has ties going back to World War II,
00:47:11.620These guys don't give a flip for the freedom of the Ukrainian people.
00:47:14.660If they did, why would they finance a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government?
00:47:19.120If they cared about the health and well-being of the Ukrainian people, why would they insist that the International Monetary Fund come in and handle the so-called reconstruction of Ukraine,
00:47:31.800which made Ukraine from one of the middle-level countries in terms of standard of living in
00:47:38.800Eastern Europe to the poorest country in Europe because of the looting done by the IMF.
00:47:46.660Why would they insist on that taking place? Because they wanted to carve up Ukraine. They
00:47:52.080want the rich farmland. They want the strategic metals. The same reason they tried to do this
00:47:57.400under Yeltsin to Russia in the 1990s, and Putin saw it. Putin came to power in 1999
00:48:05.500to oppose the destruction of Russia's physical economy, the takeover of their raw materials,
00:48:13.600and that's what the West hates about Putin. He refused to let Russia become a submissive part
00:48:22.260of a new order of a global order of the banks and the cartels and so the decision was made to
00:48:31.600use ukraine as a battering ram against russia now i want to get back to the world order because
00:48:39.620you've kind of skirted around that a couple of times and christia freeland to many canadians
00:48:46.520is well known to have roots that go back to uh nazi germany and then of course we have the klaus
00:48:54.100schwabs of the world you've already mentioned george soros uh are these all the dark players
00:48:59.880that are trying to come up with this new world order this uh great reset is this what the deal
00:49:06.140is i mean klaus schwab has bragged harley about having control or at least infiltrating over one
00:49:12.340half of canada's cabinet which is alarming to many people and yet the left-wing corporate media
00:49:18.800which is what i call them here in this country will not even recognize that that has ever been
00:49:23.780said and they look at anybody who does say it as a conspiracy theorist of course
00:49:28.660well that of course is why the hit list was presented in ukraine but we'll come back to
00:49:35.820that in a minute. But who is Schwab? Schwab is a functionary. You know, he's not so different
00:49:43.120than a Goering or a Goebbels, you know, someone who's basically put up as a front man for
00:49:49.040powerful interests. Now, why they would choose him, it's hard to tell. He's not exactly charming,
00:49:55.720good-looking, doesn't speak so well, but neither did Kissinger or Zbigniew Brzezinski.
00:50:02.240We've had a whole series of these types.
00:50:04.740When I mentioned before Volcker and the Trilateral Commission,
00:50:33.960What was the philosophy behind this Great Reset and the Green New Deal?
00:50:39.020It was the anti-human, anti-growth outlook of Prince Philip, who once said if he could be reincarnated, he'd like to come back as a dangerous virus to reduce the world's population.
00:50:53.820Prince Charles, when he was prince, was on record as saying the world can't handle more than a billion people.
00:50:59.460So you have this cabal of an old oligarchy, which is behind the scenes, although Prince Charles became much more prominent as the World Economic Forum in Davos became the center for organizing this among the world's nations.
00:51:40.140Sovereign nations are a threat to this global oligarchy for a simple reason, that the sole
00:51:47.880purpose for government is to act on behalf of the consent of the government. In the U.S.
00:51:54.620Constitution, it's called the general welfare or the commonwealth, that governments should
00:52:00.700represent the best interests of their people. Now, what happens when people demand that they
00:52:08.000not starve to death or not freeze to death or not be unemployed? Well, they put pressure on
00:52:13.680governments. And governments sometimes are forced to address that. Sometimes you have good
00:52:20.160governments. You have people who actually intend to do something that's good. They usually end up
00:52:24.760getting assassinated or overthrown. Who does that? Who controls this mechanism? That's where you see
00:52:32.500the city of London, the Lords of London, the House of Lords, the hereditary nobility of Europe.
00:52:39.520But for example, Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the president of the European Commission, she comes from an old oligarchical family in Germany, the Albrechts.
00:52:50.460Are they going to investigate her, Harley?
00:52:53.700Well, if we can defeat them, we'll investigate all of them.
00:52:57.760But she's not going to be investigated.
00:53:02.060She just went to Croatia and told the Croatians they'd better shape up, which means stick with the EU, or they'll have their lifeline of credit cut off.
00:53:13.920Look, these guys say they're the Democrats, right?
00:53:16.780They're the democracy versus autocracy.
00:53:19.380When Maloney won the election in Italy, they said the Italians voted wrong.
00:53:24.280When Orban won a smashing re-election in Hungary, they said we have to commit more money to the democratic opposition.
00:53:32.360That's what the EU said, von der Leyen.
00:53:37.180They want nations of sniveling cowards who want their careers and want their careers to want to be seen next to the old oligarchy, the powerful financial interests, the landed interests and so on.
00:53:54.760So that's that when you talk about the world government, it's the people who run these interlocking boards of directors.
00:54:03.240You know, in World War I, it was called the trusts, that you had the rubber trust, the steel trust.
00:54:11.460And these were companies in the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, that coordinated policy the way the oil cartel did after the Second World War.
00:54:24.160And they didn't operate on the basis of what was good for their nation, but on what was good for the trust.
00:54:30.940And the attempt to bust these up in the United States, the so-called trust-busting Teddy Roosevelt, really didn't succeed.
00:54:39.420And the last 30 to 40 years, we've seen a consolidation of the people who are on the boards of directors of these corporations and companies, whether it's electronics, artificial intelligence, strategic metals, and so on.
00:54:56.220And these are the people who have pools of money to elect officials to government, to fund the think tanks like the Atlantic Council and the Chatham House and the Heritage Foundation.
00:55:10.200They have the funds that they can do that.
00:55:13.140They basically control the political arena.
00:55:16.460And then they also control another aspect of the cartels, which is the media.
00:55:23.460and whose interest do they serve are they really there to educate you as to what's happening day
00:55:30.280to day how much of what i've been talking about ever appears in your local newspaper
00:55:34.220none never never so yeah so when you talk about a world government and people go oh it's going to
00:55:42.860be a world government and they they get all scared and they talk about satanists and pedophiles and
00:55:47.900But a lot of these people are really bad people, because their deep down belief is that they're better. They're better genetically. This is where eugenics comes from.
00:56:00.820Right. That some people are useless eaters and they should be eliminated. Other people can do useful services like the safari guides for the British when they go to Africa or the people who work in the factories.
00:56:19.880And this is always written about in the British novels.
00:56:24.620And this is what Huxley wrote about in The Brave New World.
00:56:28.640This is what Orwell wrote about, that if you can keep the people brainwashed and focused on local issues, and the key to geopolitics is you divide and conquer.
00:56:40.840So you divide nations against each other, east, west, north, south.
00:56:45.500you divide people and nations against each other based on race religion ethnicity now gender you
00:56:52.780know 57 variety of sexes 75 75 why i lost track of a few of them this is only in the last couple
00:57:01.760of days i'm sorry but well it changes it's changing too quickly to keep up with it how do they instill
00:57:07.960all of this harley how do they do this i mean i i saw a great interview i've played it on the show
00:57:13.200several times with, I think, a former KGB agent called Yuri Bezmenev. 1984, he was talking about
00:57:20.440the strategy on how to destabilize a nation. You don't do it through war. You do it from the
00:57:26.520inside. And they've done an amazing job of that. It's called hybrid warfare when you talk to these
00:57:33.320people now, which means controlling the narrative. And if you go back to the post-war period, you
00:57:41.060find a number of institutions which were funded largely by British intelligence, largely through
00:57:48.400the work of a Canadian, Sir William Stevenson, who became the leader of British intelligence during
00:57:54.340the war. And Stevenson was known for creating fake news. I mean, he wasn't the first. I mean,
00:58:02.860Goebbels did that as well. But the idea was they studied the Nazis and they said, well, the Nazis
00:58:08.780did it pretty well except they were crude and so there were a group of these things the tavistock
00:58:15.260institute in london oh yes how do you how do you find national characteristics that you can
00:58:21.000manipulate and use uh william sargent who was one of these operatives who wrote a book called battle
00:58:27.600for the mind where he essentially said if you can convince people of something on a small level
01:05:26.420Why not figure out how the Belt and Road Initiative could benefit countries like the United States that have a decaying, collapsing infrastructure?
01:05:37.900And interestingly, when Trump first came in, he met with Xi Jinping, and he saw China. And he said, wow, look at these bridges and power systems and high speed rail. We don't have a single mile of high speed rail in the United States is 60 miles an hour.
01:05:56.440China has 24,000 kilometers of rail systems that can go well over 300 miles per hour, up to 500 miles per hour.
01:06:07.900So our proposal was we should use the Belt and Road Initiative as a model for ending the underdevelopment of the former colonial world and then breaking the West out of this neoliberal policy, which is collapsing the economy into speculative bubbles, and instead reinvest in physical economy.
01:06:31.900And so as it became clear that Russia and China would not submit to the World Economic Forum Great Reset, they would not allow the COP26 conference to tell them whether they could have coal-fired plants or not.
01:06:50.200They were willing to fight it. And we made the point that this is why the West was using Ukraine against Russia and Taiwan against China, because they're an existential threat to a system which is collapsing and should be put in the bankruptcy reorganization anyway.
01:07:07.160And so when we said that, it was actually NATO and U.S. government funding to Ukrainian neo-Nazis who set up these so-called disinformation agencies, the Committee to Combat Disinformation, which put out a list of people they described as information terrorists and war criminals.
01:07:37.160And the initial list was 72 people, 30 of whom participated in Schiller Institute conferences.
01:07:44.680The number one person on the list was Helga Zepp-LaRouche.
01:07:48.000But it included people like former CIA Russian specialist Ray McGovern, who's a peace activist.
01:07:55.220It included Scott Ritter, who's very prominent in fighting to end this war.
01:08:01.800They've expanded the list to include Tucker Carlson now.
01:08:05.560There's now, I think, 90 something people on the list. But then there's a second list. The CCD, the Committee to Combat Disinformation, which you were right, it put me number eight on the list and basically sent emails warning you, your destiny is in your hands.
01:08:22.840you should stop this support of Putin talking points against the Ukrainian people.
01:08:28.780Then there was a second list called Mirotforetz, which means, I can't remember the name,
01:08:34.920it's Peacekeeper or something like that. This at one point had 4,500 journalists on the list.
01:08:42.000It was denounced throughout the period of 2014 to 2020 by the European Union, by many media,