The Shadoe Davis Show - Shadoe at Nite Tues. Apr. 5th⧸2022 w⧸guest Heather Prosak

00:00:00.000 and i have a special guest on the show tonight uh veteran radio personality heather prosak is

00:00:05.140 going to join us tonight uh from her home in calgary she is starting a brand new venture

00:00:10.000 she was uh you know i played the video for you guys she was in ottawa during the convoy she went

00:00:17.760 there for herself to see what it was like we're going to talk to her more about that uh in just

00:00:23.960 a couple of minutes heather prosak joins us on the show tonight we also have some bad news from

00:00:28.260 british columbia where the supreme court there decided to uh knock down the injunction that was

00:00:36.120 stopping the government from firing unvaccinated workers so that story is coming up uh nasi

00:00:41.220 is telling canadian provinces to start rolling out fourth shots so ontario is already walking

00:00:48.700 down that road uh what else have we got for you tonight uh let's see here oh ottawa is now going

00:00:54.820 to redefine fully vaccinated as we predicted you know it's interesting all of the things that we've

00:01:02.600 been saying for months and months and months even over a year now everything we've been saying and

00:01:06.920 people going you're a crazy conspiracy theorist it's true how many shots are you willing to take

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00:03:15.920 Want to bring her on now because I've only got her for just a little while. 0.97

00:03:19.020 Heather Prozac, veteran radio personality.

00:03:21.940 You guys might know her from Winnipeg Radio or from Regina.

00:03:25.140 You were in Regina for a while, Heather.

00:03:26.580 I was.

00:03:27.260 In Calgary most recently.

00:03:28.780 Welcome to the show and thank you for coming on tonight.

00:03:31.100 I have one question for you before we begin.

00:03:34.120 Let's go. 0.99

00:03:34.520 do you think your mom is watching the show right now she's watching mama and daddy prosack say

00:03:40.660 hello they love you okay well hello mama prosack and daddy too how are you i'm very good thank you

00:03:48.100 and thank you for coming on tonight i've been wanting to have you on ever since i saw that

00:03:52.260 video and uh we all know uh what happened after that we don't know all of the details and we're

00:03:59.620 not going to get into so much of that tonight simply because there are restrictions on what

00:04:03.440 you can and can't say but I want to ask you what compelled you to go there in the first place

00:04:10.860 it was it was interesting shadow because uh I had two weeks off

00:04:16.520 and they got to Ottawa as in they the convoy got to Ottawa or got to Calgary on the Monday

00:04:24.060 Sunday night Monday and I thought I was just going to go see what that was because at that

00:04:28.640 point I was curious and I hadn't done my research on it. And as the days went on and I started

00:04:33.960 seeing them roll through the country, I got off the air on Thursday and was like, wait a second.

00:04:41.880 I have next week off. I'm curious. I'm going to go. And that's really what happened. It was like

00:04:49.340 on a whim. And I'm like, I need to figure out what's going on here because something's not

00:04:53.300 adding up with what I'm seeing in one place and what I'm seeing in another. And I just am that

00:04:57.560 curious. So I thought, okay, got my stuff together, got to Ottawa Sunday night and I was blown away.

00:05:06.240 That's an understatement. Well, when you got there, you were getting there at the same time

00:05:11.260 as the truckers or was it like a day later? It was a week later. Yeah. A week later. So they'd

00:05:14.940 already embedded themselves in the streets downtown then. Yeah. And I thought this is perfect timing

00:05:19.440 to come there because they've had a week to be there. So if there was any real issues,

00:05:24.120 there's plenty of time for them to do something during that week and into the week I'm there.

00:05:28.640 So I wanted to hear the horns. I wanted to experience it all. Now, when I showed up,

00:05:32.680 the city had put in place no horn honking on the Monday. So I didn't actually get to hear that.

00:05:37.960 I can imagine it would have been annoying, but I also wouldn't stay in a city where you can

00:05:42.860 protest so close to parliament. What was it like for two years for you with all of this stuff going

00:05:49.940 on knowing what you know i mean you went to ottawa for a reason obviously to see for yourself

00:05:56.380 but i mean you had to be on the air yeah well and you know shadow being in uh in a music focused

00:06:04.980 industry because you were in talk but being in music there's another layer to it and somewhat

00:06:12.740 of it i agree with um because people who are focused on listening to music intensive stations

00:06:17.340 uh they they want to get away from the realness of what's going on right so it is your job but

00:06:23.860 the problem in what we went through which will be a historical thing people will talk about

00:06:29.340 in schools and and in kids will learn about it for years to come uh it's not every day you go

00:06:36.140 through a pandemic so there are no rules to handling that on the air and i'm a real person

00:06:41.860 Like actually, it's hard for me not to relate to people in realness.

00:06:47.300 So as much as I can be goofy on the air and have been through my 20 years, and it's fun.

00:06:52.320 Once that pandemic rolled in, it's pretty difficult to do that because things shut down.

00:06:57.160 I've already solidified that I'm a curious person.

00:07:00.580 Anything that I normally would have done wasn't happening.

00:07:03.780 So now I'm starting to be curious about other things and starting to talk to people, starting

00:07:08.260 to see the fear, starting to see the anger rise.

00:07:11.860 between sides families are breaking down luckily for me i never had any of that but i saw enough

00:07:18.060 of it with my friends so it was hard it was it's just like it would have been on everyone but

00:07:23.920 everyone has their own story right yeah well you know it's funny you say that because you know

00:07:29.260 it's supposed to be an escape i i always thought of radio as an escape you know music radio because

00:07:34.580 i did it for quite a few years as well you want to take people's minds off the heaviness of what's

00:07:39.260 going on but when something like this happens i mean it affects every facet of your life you know

00:07:44.920 you're not all of a sudden you're not going into work anymore now you're working from home a lot

00:07:49.060 of people were and and you can't go to the store you have to put this face covering on this breathing

00:07:54.180 barrier you know yeah you have to consider going for an experimental serum uh something that's

00:08:00.900 never been tested ever on human beings and the peer pressure starts and and the pressure from

00:08:08.200 your employer starts and the government pressure and uh family pressure and so as you say you know

00:08:13.940 that can be very difficult and to handle that on the air like after a while i if it were me and

00:08:19.620 i've said this to the audience before many times if it were me i i wouldn't have had a choice i

00:08:25.140 would have felt like a clown talking about other things you know like oh the academy awards are

00:08:29.480 tonight you know like you really did right like how do you do it because as much as you tried and

00:08:36.400 and and we did try i think we did a pretty good job you know what i noticed the most about being

00:08:39.920 on the air at that time um the anger rising in people and the text messages saying enough already

00:08:47.260 of talking about this and i agreed with them but at the same time i'm like what else are we supposed

00:08:51.700 to talk about this is like think about when you run into someone that's what you're talking about

00:08:55.300 yeah so you try to do the escape that you're like i can't this is ridiculous there is no escape right

00:09:01.560 now we have to face this and deal with it right right and so like when you went on the air to

00:09:07.940 talk about it what did you have to say like just what well you know it was again i don't want to

00:09:14.460 get too too much into this because yeah i'll tell you i'll tell you if we're crossing lines and i

00:09:18.620 don't want to talk about it um so well i know you want to talk about it it's being able to talk

00:09:24.000 about it so uh i think the reality is you're given a lot of because i you know um i i was able to

00:09:33.200 you know just like you know in your show you get to make some decisions and it's all in how you

00:09:37.980 want to handle your show and so when you're handling your show the way i looked at it is

00:09:42.380 do people really want to listen to me tell them what to do probably not they're getting it from

00:09:48.200 everywhere. So, uh, you know, I tried not to steer into the directions of, of getting on a,

00:09:55.040 on a podium, so to speak, because I believe the microphone is not a right. And so many people

00:10:00.180 think it is, it's a privilege to be on this. And so when you take the authority to start

00:10:04.720 speaking into what you believe is right. So I never took those liberties. I was always very

00:10:10.980 careful. Um, and, uh, I tried to keep it really simple, but that was hard because it wasn't,

00:10:17.240 it's not a simple time. And so eventually it's just starting to kind of like sit there because

00:10:22.600 you can't do anything. You can't help. You can't say, don't worry about it. You can't say ignore,

00:10:28.440 you can't do anything because there's no right answer because there's so many things being

00:10:32.500 thrown at people. And I think that's the problem is there's just so much information and, and you

00:10:38.660 are tasked with being on this thing. And now you've got to figure out how to navigate it

00:10:44.620 where there's other opinions are on you. So you go to Ottawa, you see for yourself what's going

00:10:51.040 on out there. We all saw in the video what you saw because it was an observational video.

00:10:56.600 There was no opinions made in that video that I could see. It was just you walking through

00:11:01.380 a crowd of truckers. You said these signs are everywhere and the signs were peace and love

00:11:07.580 and dignity and family. Yeah, it was very sweet. And so you were feeling on a high,

00:11:14.400 you made your video things are great and you start your trek back and that's when things got

00:11:22.240 real yeah yeah and so that's where our conversation has to stop with it but um basically that's why

00:11:27.940 i started this new adventure so we said without saying what happened uh and we can't get into the

00:11:36.360 details of that and probably won't be able to for quite some time but that's all right that's fine

00:11:40.680 because, you know, Heather's already agreed before we came on tonight to come on occasionally and 0.88

00:11:45.320 on the show. But you've got your own thing going. It's called Knowledge Media. Can you tell us

00:11:51.280 about that, please? Yeah. So I decided, Shadow, as I embark on this new adventure, I'm like,

00:11:57.180 what do I want to do that I wasn't able to do over my past 20 years? And it was sit down and

00:12:02.820 talk to interesting people. And one of the biggest challenges I see now after two years is that we

00:12:10.580 are not, we will not listen to any other side. And when I say listen, I mean just respect.

00:12:19.920 And I thought, you know, interesting because why don't I do something like get interesting people

00:12:25.200 on the air that may be polarizing or may ask, make you ask yourself questions and then see where it

00:12:33.380 goes from there so I had Jamie Saleh the uh figure skater on the gold medalist and she had a really

00:12:41.100 interesting take on media and being in media it was interesting to hear her take on it because

00:12:45.340 she was the one that we would have been following trying to get the interview of pictures she was

00:12:51.040 also on our side of the mic for a while too I think uh for one of the networks I think she was

00:12:55.800 doing this job and I can't even imagine what that would be like for somebody who uh you know was

00:13:02.240 interviewed to be doing the interviewing must have been a fascinating is is the interview up yet can

00:13:07.400 we hear it it is so if you go to knowledgemediacorp.com you'll find my website it'll be

00:13:15.080 linked up there to youtube and that's just the easiest way so knowledgemediacorp.com but yeah

00:13:19.580 it's been an interesting adventure like i know you're used to this being in talk and doing this

00:13:23.700 and and you've always had an interesting perspective but being able to go into this

00:13:27.680 new realm of talking in a good way. I'm trying to be really nice to Shatner right now. He's always

00:13:35.600 been super interesting. The Times of Winnipeg, I remember. And I just think that it's just going

00:13:44.560 to be a fun adventure. I've had some feedback from people disagreeing with me already, but that's

00:13:49.480 the point. I wanted to make it that way. Hey, guess what? We can agree, we can disagree,

00:13:54.060 but we don't have to get angry with each other what what has been the response i mean the video

00:14:00.380 must it's been seen 23 000 times just on that instagram alone never mind the shares that it's

00:14:05.600 had the convoy one yeah yeah so you you must have had a lot of feedback on different uh social media

00:14:11.820 platforms and email what's it been like so it was over half a million uh on one of the platforms

00:14:18.240 yeah which uh so it was taken from me right and what i mean by that that's that was the point of

00:14:23.340 it. I didn't know it was going to do that, but I don't care who grabbed it. It was in other

00:14:28.360 countries. They've dubbed it over. Translated it? That's pretty cool. It's really bizarre when

00:14:34.780 you see it in Dutch. You're like, oh, look at that. Any other language. There I am.

00:14:41.440 You know what, Shadow, I didn't realize. I was just putting up something that I saw,

00:14:45.480 something that I experienced. And to see how it touched other people's hearts

00:14:51.220 was humbling because it made me, and through my DMs, made me realize how many people in general

00:15:01.240 are feeling the same way, feeling sad, feeling lonely, and how many stories. I mean, the stories

00:15:07.560 of a lot of men reaching out saying, I don't reach out on social media. I want to let you know that

00:15:14.360 your video put me in tears and so the realness of that moment and the humanity of the moment

00:15:20.680 that's where I came from in Ottawa right that's what I experienced and then as I was coming home

00:15:25.540 reading these messages and trying to respond to everyone we have some repairing to do after these

00:15:33.620 two years and people are hurt and I don't know if I have the answer but I think we need to be

00:15:41.540 human beings to each other and realize some people are very scared yeah beyond you or i will ever

00:15:48.260 know you had a great story that we talked about yesterday can you tell that one i was telling

00:15:53.960 shadow about uh i get my i have a little cute dog her name is bella she's on my instagram page

00:15:59.300 is she there with you no she's usually sleeping that's just her life people like to see cute

00:16:04.680 little dogs okay so maybe she'll come maybe she will see she's a little rock star so uh i was

00:16:11.140 taking her to the vet to grab her dog food. And it was two days before the restrictions were lifted

00:16:17.500 here in Calgary. So I wasn't wearing a mask anymore because I had like, I just run out and

00:16:21.960 I wasn't wearing them. So I walk into the vet just to pay. They had the dog food at the ready to

00:16:28.080 order it. And I walk in and a woman says to me, stop where you are. And I stopped thinking like,

00:16:34.980 what happened? She's like, stay by the door. I'm like, everything okay? And she's like, 0.80

00:16:39.460 where's your mask and I felt like it was March 2020 when no one knew what was going on right

00:16:44.700 and I kind of I looked at her and I thought she was joking and I said oh I said I don't I don't

00:16:49.620 have one anymore and she goes you need one to come in here I go the restrictions are lifting

00:16:57.140 two days from now I said I don't have it so she brings a mask to me and I just kind of put it on

00:17:02.000 and walk over to pay thinking I've done I've I've respected her enough to pay to pay to put it on

00:17:08.480 and then pay. In the meantime, I'm paying, so I'm putting it in and paying for it, right? My head's

00:17:14.660 down. What was your mood like as this was going on? Oh, great. If you weren't freaking out, you

00:17:19.780 didn't get angry or anything? No. Well, I get angry. You know what? The one thing I as a person

00:17:25.460 know, I just respect people and I know that people have gone through different stories and

00:17:30.700 some of the stories I've heard through this experience in Ottawa, some people have lost

00:17:34.200 are family. Some people have lost lifelong friendships. So knowing that it's not about me,

00:17:40.040 that in that moment that she was yelling at me was not about me. It was about her.

00:17:43.880 And knowing that it is all in how I handle this, because one of us is worked up and the other

00:17:49.840 isn't. I'm not. So I'm paying for it. And I hear her say, why can't you just put the mask on

00:17:57.400 properly? And her voice is quivering. And I'm again, I'm looking at the machine and I realized

00:18:03.080 I think she's crying. So I look up in, in surprise. And she is tears are streaming down her face.

00:18:09.220 And she's like, you know, you could just put the mask on. And I said, ma'am, I would have been out

00:18:14.040 of here a long time ago if we hadn't talked. I said, but I do truly hope I said that you can

00:18:18.940 handle this fear and get rid of it because my heart is breaking for you. And she didn't say

00:18:25.720 anything else but I mean tears were welling up tears so that was a real moment for me

00:18:32.940 to know that what some people are experiencing are much different than me I don't have the answer

00:18:40.040 but I can say that you know if you come at it from love it's different she wasn't bullying me

00:18:44.740 either right she really was like scared just scared why is that is it because of non-stop

00:18:54.260 media pressure for two straight years is it friends family is it government like is it a

00:19:02.100 combination of everything yeah absolutely is I had to shut my tv off didn't you like I was like

00:19:09.520 I can't handle this anymore I'm sorry yeah I haven't watched left-wing media in a while and

00:19:15.460 that's I call it left-wing corporate media because that's what it sadly has come down to

00:19:19.280 um you know the way they report stories i mean it's funny a young lady messaged me just about

00:19:26.440 15 minutes before we came on tonight so i didn't really have a chance to to put her story into the

00:19:32.900 show tonight knowing that you were coming on i'm going to put it on tomorrow night but there's a

00:19:37.800 grade three class in transcona arthur day elementary school no sorry middle middle school

00:19:44.900 and they're already asking because you were talking about this a little bit earlier they're

00:19:48.580 already asking or showing uh testing kids on what happened at the rally at the convoy and the way

00:19:55.380 they have got these questions couched is that it was a villainous gathering that it was an

00:20:01.080 occupation that it was anti-government and they make the kids read this two-page uh lesson plan

00:20:09.380 i suppose yeah and then they make them uh answer questions uh on it after they read it and i i

00:20:15.060 couldn't even believe my own eyes when i read this i went wow this is crazy so as you say this is

00:20:20.180 going to be in schools it's already in schools and it's not it's not down the line so who's creating

00:20:26.920 the curriculum on that like who's who's deciding that i i don't know i i only just got it 15 minutes

00:20:32.700 before i came on the air tonight and i'm thinking well if it's if it's out in schools it would be

00:20:38.020 the Transcona-Kildonan School Division here, I think, probably. But that seems kind of quick.

00:20:45.640 So maybe it was something done up by a teacher or maybe a group of teachers, and they decided

00:20:50.880 they want to put that into the lesson plan, because it doesn't seem that it would be a

00:20:55.680 curriculum thing. That's more of an annual meeting of the minds, I think.

00:21:00.380 Do you think a lot of people are pulling, not a lot of people, I don't want to generalize.

00:21:03.520 you know I've met a few people that

00:21:06.540 have kids and they these are

00:21:08.720 people that would never homeschool

00:21:10.520 but they have been digging

00:21:12.700 into it and researching it

00:21:14.060 yeah I've heard that

00:21:16.500 I have heard that time

00:21:18.560 and time and time again and not just

00:21:20.700 because of this sort of thing that I

00:21:22.640 just talked about but there are other things

00:21:24.780 that parents a lot of parents are very

00:21:26.800 uncomfortable with and it's sad that the

00:21:28.720 way you know it's going

00:21:29.980 it's just not

00:21:33.520 All inclusive, even though that's the way it's being portrayed. And of course, you know what's going on in Florida right now. I didn't want to get into all of this with you right now because we were talking about other things.

00:21:42.960 But I mean, Ron DeSantis down there, the Republican governor of that state has decided that he does not want any sex education for any students kindergarten through grade three. It has nothing to do with with any sort of sexual preference or gender or whatnot.

00:22:02.740 It's just that we don't want to expose these kids to that sort of information between the ages of five and eight years old.

00:22:09.200 And that is going on in Ontario.

00:22:11.520 That is going on in Manitoba right now.

00:22:13.860 I've heard from many parents and they're absolutely mortified because they don't find out about it for maybe a month or two months because the kids are being told by teachers they don't have to tell their parents what's going on.

00:22:28.200 And that's the alarming thing.

00:22:29.480 So, yeah, I know that many parents are pulling their kids out of school and the masking thing as well.

00:22:36.840 There have been protests from from students.

00:22:39.380 They don't want to have to wear that anymore.

00:22:41.280 They they know what the risks are for teenagers and young kids from this virus.

00:22:46.420 And yet some of the actions that I've seen taken by teachers and and principals and superintendents have been absolutely atrocious in the way they're handled.

00:22:58.720 I saw one eight-year-old girl, you know those plexiglass shields they've got at the grocery

00:23:05.940 stores? 0.83

00:23:06.980 The ones in front of the cash register?

00:23:09.220 Yeah.

00:23:09.680 So you can't hear any word they're saying between the mask and the plexiglass.

00:23:13.300 You can't.

00:23:15.060 They had a young girl who couldn't wear a mask.

00:23:18.080 She had asthma.

00:23:19.500 And they had her surrounded at her desk in the classroom with all the other students, 0.94

00:23:25.260 surrounded by those plexiglass things.

00:23:28.720 So she couldn't like, so I ask you this when we just talked about fear, um, you surround a child

00:23:37.600 with plexiglass, like what does that make that person, that little girl feel like, but then

00:23:40.960 the rest of the children seeing that you immediately think danger. So then you're like,

00:23:45.880 oh my goodness, what are those kids thinking as they grow up? And I think that, uh, I've seen some

00:23:50.420 parents handle the pandemic. I've, I don't have kids, right. But I've seen my friends and how

00:23:54.880 they handle their children and, and then other friends handle their children. It's interesting

00:23:58.520 to see the differences between kids because some children whose parents are like they're trying to

00:24:03.620 play down what's going on whether you agree or disagree i do see a difference in those children

00:24:08.980 they're not talking about um and then they're not talking about the pandemic they're also

00:24:13.220 they don't seem to be as scared they're just living their lives well so it's just yeah so i

00:24:20.320 don't i don't know what the answer is with this shadow but when it comes to schools and

00:24:23.720 you in manitoba uh because i have family there you guys were really locked down in alberta

00:24:30.080 we we felt a lot more open now we know that that's not the case in general like the entire

00:24:36.080 like canada is just in a much different place than most other countries but when the pandemic

00:24:41.280 was at its peak yeah you guys were really locked down you couldn't buy christmas wrapping paper

00:24:46.800 is that right at one point yeah i think they sorry i just had to bring that no you know what

00:24:50.880 it was there was a lot of complaining it was two christmases ago uh they they shut down some of the

00:24:55.940 smaller stores right uh for cards and whatnot and so the smaller and medium stores medium-sized

00:25:02.920 stores complained to the government so that meant that well if we can't sell this stuff then we're

00:25:07.880 going to tell costco and walmart that they can't oh i see there was certain certain areas of the

00:25:12.720 stores that were like whoa like not just christmas decorations anything with christmas on it right so

00:25:18.040 there was Christmas shirts and sweaters. You couldn't buy them even though they were hanging

00:25:21.960 there. It was just- I almost drove to you guys and sold stuff from the back of my van because

00:25:26.840 I'm like, this is the business. You would have made a fortune. You know what, Heather? I think

00:25:31.860 you're right as we come out of this and hopefully we're coming out of this. I know that, what's

00:25:37.280 your name? Teresa Tam yesterday was saying, oh, you have to keep wearing masks. I saw that.

00:25:42.640 Dina Henshaw, your chief medical health officer is on trial right now.

00:25:48.160 It seems like she's on trial.

00:25:49.540 It's actually a constitutional case with the JCCF.

00:25:53.640 They're still trying to mandate all of this stuff.

00:25:57.220 They are still defending the decisions they made.

00:26:00.100 And I think you're right when you say, I don't have all the answers, but I think one of the things that's going to help us, your show, you know, Knowledge Media, it's going to be great.

00:26:09.140 Knowledge Media Inc., right?

00:26:10.520 knowledge board uh knowledgemediacorp.com knowledgemediacorp.com conversation conversation

00:26:17.100 is going to be able to help us and so if you can get people on every side of the equation here just

00:26:23.620 talk you know and and be interested in hearing what you have to say and likewise i think this

00:26:30.400 is going to be one way to pull us out of at least the mental health crisis that we're probably in

00:26:36.900 right now. Oh gosh. I just heard from a mom and I got to dig into this story, but her son was

00:26:41.680 taken to the hospital. He struggled with mental health as of first year of COVID. And by where

00:26:48.060 we are now, she shared that it's disastrous. And she goes, please do a, please do a show on mental

00:26:53.720 health. And so I have to find out exactly what, because I want to find out what it is exactly

00:26:59.380 that I should be talking to, right? Is it the therapists or is it just other people that are

00:27:03.920 dealing and struggling with mental health, but I hope that knowledge media does open the doors

00:27:09.100 to conversation. I just had a conversation with someone else in media and he was very angry and

00:27:14.140 he said, you know, we weren't treated right. And I said, well, that, that you're, you are actually

00:27:19.820 looking at it personally versus professionally. And if you can take the personal stuff out of it

00:27:26.800 and realize everybody is handling this in a very heavy way and they're trying to handle it any way

00:27:33.560 that they can, but remember what you do for a living. Even for me, when I've been on the radio

00:27:37.620 for 20 years, there is accountability that comes with that. And I always remembered that. And so

00:27:44.700 he and I agreed to disagree. I said, let's chat again sometimes because this is the point

00:27:50.580 of knowledge media. You can feel the blood pressure go, but like stop it at a certain point

00:27:57.120 and realize it's okay that we don't agree.

00:28:03.560 I'll talk to you later, Heather. Bye.

00:28:07.160 No, it's good. Theron Fleury, I think, would be a fantastic guest for you to get on. He's

00:28:11.240 in Calgary already, and he does do a lot of speaking on mental health. 0.97

00:28:16.940 That's a good point, actually. I might reach out to him. I'll tell him you said so.

00:28:19.880 Yeah. Well, I had him on a year ago, and I wouldn't mind getting him on again. We're

00:28:23.060 trying to get him out here for a mental health night, maybe in a month, month and a half. We

00:28:26.980 did a big fundraiser for that just this past Friday night. I'll tell you this.

00:28:31.100 all of these people after so long because you know they they didn't get the uh the thing

00:28:37.480 they weren't allowed to go out to restaurants or hockey games or whatever uh so friday night

00:28:46.600 i think was the first time that many people had left the house and all got together and had one

00:28:53.320 big huge party oh so good it's a good thing okay yeah yeah no it was it was a good thing it was

00:28:59.520 one of those nights where people just go out and they let loose and they have a good time and they

00:29:04.300 get a chance to talk to other like-minded people because that's the thing too that's happened in

00:29:08.420 the past couple of years I know the clock is running down you're going to have to get going

00:29:11.840 no no it's okay it's okay all right but the isolation the ice I'm just trying to watch for

00:29:17.100 you and you know you said yeah I appreciate that the isolation was a big problem and I certainly

00:29:23.020 hope we don't have to go back into that again did you feel that too the isolation how could you not

00:29:28.640 uh you know thank goodness I actually said thank goodness I had Bella because uh it gave me an

00:29:35.080 and the ability to go walking her with her when everything was shut down there was like that point

00:29:39.260 of doing something and that may sound silly to you but I I was grasping going okay we're gonna

00:29:46.220 walk four times a day today I know it's minus 30 out but hey let's go and and you know I joke around

00:29:52.780 about it because the reality was if you didn't you realize you're sitting within four walls

00:29:59.660 people are starting to not go out as much as they normally did like i'm an outgoing person

00:30:05.680 and i even found myself going well i'm gonna sit on the couch and watch tv you actually started to

00:30:10.060 become a little more um interested in in your four walls and just sitting there not realizing

00:30:15.440 that it's becoming habitual right yeah so i i hope we don't lock down like we have in the past

00:30:22.060 again because it's not fair now and i i am lucky i lived in alberta because shadow i know that it

00:30:26.860 was a very different story in manitoba so uh i could still go to um everything because we were

00:30:34.400 more open than you guys were and what i mean by that is the businesses weren't as shut down as

00:30:39.320 long we were open for the summer we were wide open past though didn't you that you called it

00:30:43.940 something else but it wasn't oh there's a whole i never got the name of it what was it yeah there

00:30:49.240 It was, but, um, but we weren't, we weren't doing that for a long time.

00:30:53.360 So it didn't really change for the length of period of time that you saw it change.

00:30:58.680 Like we, like Alberta wasn't as locked down, but then we swung and then we locked down

00:31:03.100 and it caught everyone off guard.

00:31:04.280 So there was, you know, it was almost like March, 2020 happened again in the middle of

00:31:08.260 the pandemic.

00:31:08.700 So it was a very hard time.

00:31:10.580 Everyone handled it differently.

00:31:11.620 And it was, it was different for everyone, uh, in every province.

00:31:14.740 Right.

00:31:15.020 So all I can say is that let's hope that doesn't happen again, because I don't know what it did to you, but staying inside like that, I didn't see from people.

00:31:23.880 Like, I have a large group of friends.

00:31:25.760 I still haven't heard from some of them.

00:31:27.400 They've just disappeared.

00:31:29.440 And is that, do you think you know why that is?

00:31:34.220 Well, I think, you know, people just got quieter and quieter and people just felt less excited.

00:31:42.440 and the more the lockdowns happen and the more they kept going open, shut, open, shut.

00:31:49.600 I don't care how strong you think you are, but that is, that's a battle and it's an inside battle.

00:31:56.420 Well, it's demoralizing. There's no doubt about that. But I mean, I'm talking about strictly

00:32:00.700 from the viewpoint of vax versus unvaxed. Were there any of those struggles that you had with

00:32:07.700 people who you were close to? Well, I found, so I never subscribed to that. And I was always very

00:32:14.500 vocal because I thought it was weird. But there were a lot of people that I knew that were scared

00:32:20.560 of the unvaxxed. And I was like, this is bizarre. Now I was working by myself in my house. So it's

00:32:28.140 just nothing really changed in that front. But you saw, I think it was when the election started,

00:32:35.000 like when trudeau called the election and sadly that's when i saw it really change and the dynamic

00:32:40.540 shifted and anger started rising and uh it's dangerous all around so i'm hoping we're climbing

00:32:46.980 out of that as well because for me vaccinated unvaccinated i don't care like let's just get

00:32:52.840 through this and think about people as human beings yeah i agree with you are you laughing

00:32:57.840 at me well no it's just it's because i have heard that before and you're so animated when you speak

00:33:03.500 I just, I think it's great. I love your presence. I think it's fantastic. And I'm happy to have you

00:33:10.900 on tonight. All right. You've got to get going. Thank you for coming on tonight, Heather.

00:33:14.240 Before you say goodbye to me, I want to say thank you to you because you have a big heart shadow

00:33:18.340 and you have done stuff that people probably called you out for, probably judged you for,

00:33:25.480 but also those loved you for. And so thank you for being honest to who you are and speaking,

00:33:31.720 uh speaking to your heart and helping us deal through this pandemic because you know what one

00:33:37.740 thing i know for sure you going live like this throughout gave people someone to connect with

00:33:44.120 when some people didn't have that connection and that's incredible so thank you well thank you

00:33:50.320 for saying that i appreciate it because it has been a rough road sometimes not always the last

00:33:55.580 few days have been a bit rough but um just having you on today bucked me up a lot because you're

00:34:00.480 is so happy i know people don't like it sometimes but thanks heather and uh have a great night we'll

00:34:08.360 talk to you again soon and and mama and papa prozac uh thank you guys for your support as well

00:34:13.760 i know that your mom is a regular viewer of the show yes thanks heather we'll talk to you again

00:34:18.660 bye all right there's heather prozac uh you guys probably know her from winnipeg radio or regina

00:34:25.340 radio or from calgary radio what a pleasure to have her on i wish guys she could have told the

00:34:31.720 whole story about what happened after she got back to calgary from the convoy but right now

00:34:39.300 there are some legal issues that she's dealing with and so we just can't talk about that right

00:34:45.160 now but hopefully at one point soon we will again knowledge media inc

00:34:50.160 dot com or is it knowledge media corp now you want to know what i screwed it up

00:34:57.300 i just wrote down knowledge media what you do is you google

00:35:02.120 knowledge media and you uh you check out what heather's doing jamie soleil is her first

00:35:09.720 interview and she's going to be doing at least one a week probably more i look forward to hearing

00:35:14.460 that and you want to know what i am so happy uh to be joined by somebody like heather because

00:35:23.980 it's been a long slog personally speaking i felt alone in the world a lot like maybe you guys do

00:35:32.460 sometimes and i know that this show can bring people together um just from what i read

00:35:38.700 in the comment section a lot of times um and what i saw at the big freedom social the other night

00:35:47.200 what i saw was people actually meeting in person face to face for the very first time after having

00:35:54.700 spoken in the comment section it's knowledgemediacorp.com thank you brian um you get to

00:36:02.580 meet each other maybe even give each other a hug shake hands after having spoken in the comment

00:36:07.500 section for so long and i know the other thing it does for people you know there are people who

00:36:12.740 are alone guys completely and totally alone and they haven't been out like heather was saying

00:36:20.160 and it increased over time over the two years you know at first maybe you'd go out every now

00:36:26.820 and again and then you know after a couple of months you just yeah you know i'm not going to

00:36:32.260 go out because you get used to it and maybe you actually acquire agoraphobia which is the fear of

00:36:39.840 leaving your home and i have to say that and i never used to feel this myself at all but

00:36:46.900 going out for me even the last while if i'm not going to a place i'm familiar with and comfortable

00:36:55.080 with it's been like yeah i don't know maybe i'll just stay in tonight and watch something on tv

00:37:02.300 it's true so this is something we're going to have to work ourselves through i think

00:37:08.200 because it's on us nobody is gonna that's the other thing nobody is going to come and save us

00:37:16.040 we're going to have to save ourselves all right so i know there's been a lot of arguing

00:37:22.660 about politics in the last few weeks,

00:37:27.080 ever since Pierre Paliyev decided he was going to run

00:37:29.140 for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada

00:37:31.400 and all of the competitors that are in there as well.

00:37:35.220 Leslyn Lewis is in there.

00:37:36.780 Rowan Baber is in there.

00:37:38.860 There's a couple of people I am actually going to have

00:37:41.500 on the show in the next month or so,

00:37:43.200 people you may not know,

00:37:45.120 but they're running for the leadership.

00:37:47.360 Why not?

00:37:49.200 Why not?

00:37:50.040 Give it a try and see.

00:37:51.480 but people are saying these people are all puppets it doesn't matter uh who gets in because they're

00:37:59.200 all the same right they're two sides of the same coin so that's why i keep saying that we need

00:38:07.560 people of good heart and character to run for office at the grassroots level and you guys know

00:38:15.840 i say this every single night but i'm going to say it again because it's worth saying

00:38:19.340 we need people to run for school trustee we need people to run for uh for reeve for town and city

00:38:30.060 counselors mayors we need people who can't be bought people of solid integrity to run for

00:38:38.040 positions like this so we can get away from the bureaucratic crap that we've been facing

00:38:45.720 and those people will be in for a challenge i am not going to dispute that they will be in for a

00:38:51.540 challenge as they try and and deal with the bureaucracies wherever they happen to be elected

00:38:56.640 because it's the bureaucracies guys the bureaucracies that really run the show it's

00:39:01.480 not the politicians the politicians are pretty much figureheads they argue in the legislature

00:39:06.060 or the parliament or whatever about this that and the other but when they decide that they want to

00:39:11.780 make a law. It takes forever for them to do it. And so it should. It should be debated, debated,

00:39:16.720 debated, then go up to the Senate and be debated again, come back for third or fourth reading,

00:39:20.780 whatever. But then the bureaucrats decide whether or not they want this to be a law quickly. 0.89

00:39:27.040 And I can tell you a lot of the bureaucracy is deep state style. They're the ones who have to

00:39:34.560 implement the new law and they can move fast on something if they like it, or they can move slow

00:39:40.540 on something if they don't like it. They're supposed to be apolitical, but they're not

00:39:44.660 because they're human beings. So that's the struggle that anybody will face being elected

00:39:51.780 to any kind of office. If it were me, I would be going in there and cracking heads because

00:40:00.200 ultimately the politicians do have the power. All they need to do is choose to take it. And

00:40:05.260 the power comes from the people. So if you have a city manager who is not doing what

00:40:10.160 you're asking him or her to do or town secretary or a school superintendent then you fire that person

00:40:21.580 immediately now there could be a problem with that because maybe they've got a contract that

00:40:26.900 says you have to pay them out two years well then pay them out the two years if it's going to save

00:40:31.560 my kids from being taught CRT. If it's going to save our kids from learning about 87 different

00:40:40.360 genders at age six, then it would be worth the money. Only my opinion. All right, let's go back 1.00

00:40:49.140 to the stories we've got to cover tonight, guys, because there's a few of them. And I want to start

00:40:53.480 with the Alberta constitutional court case. Marty Gold, our friend Marty Gold from the J.ca.

00:41:00.260 took all of sheila gun reed's tweets today from rebel news sheila gun reed was following the case

00:41:08.760 and then tweeting about it and marty picked them up and he put them all in order for me tonight

00:41:14.860 thank you marty for doing that i really appreciate it because last night it was kind of a difficult

00:41:19.280 thing to they're all over the place all these tweets so marty put them all in order for us

00:41:24.680 tonight. So here's Sheila Gunn-Reed describing what was going on in court today. Alberta's chief

00:41:31.220 health officer, Dina Hinshaw, was on the stand being cross-examined by Leighton Gray, one of the

00:41:37.540 most respected lawyers in Canada. Leighton Gray has been hired by the Justice Center for

00:41:42.220 Constitutional Freedoms, and he is the one doing the cross-examination of Dina Hinshaw right now.

00:41:49.160 So, Leighton Gray is back to cross-examining Dina Hinshaw. He is now asking her about the affidavit from July 2021, wherein she decried the power of social media to spread misinfo, creating a groundswell of naysayers and people who question the severity of COVID.

00:42:07.780 from february 14th 2020 gray produces evidence that hinshaw was remarking about the control

00:42:15.140 of information about covet 19 about a month before the worldwide pandemic was even declared

00:42:20.640 well isn't that interesting she explains she was worried about anti-asian racism remember last

00:42:28.480 night we were talking about that all those left-wing american politicians who were saying

00:42:34.460 no no come on down to chinatown in san francisco among them nancy pelosi no no no no no chinese

00:42:40.620 people are good nobody ever said chinese people were bad not that i know of not in any media source 0.73

00:42:47.880 at all it's the government there the totalitarian regime that tortures people that's the bad thing 0.70

00:42:57.400 chinese people by and larger people they just don't know they live in a totalitarian dictatorship and 0.92

00:43:03.120 if they do, they got to keep their mouth shut about it because they'll ruin their social credit 0.99

00:43:07.160 score. Anyway, Hinshaw said she considered Alberta Health Services and Alberta Health website a

00:43:14.280 reliable source of early COVID information. Yesterday, she said she had to readjust and

00:43:20.200 lower her own published death statistics regarding COVID-19. Leighton Gray asking Hinshaw to explain

00:43:26.180 why she uses the term non-believers to describe people who do not conform to government COVID

00:43:32.580 recommendations. She explains non-believers as those who, quote, adopted beliefs that would lead

00:43:39.200 to behaviors that would put themselves and others at risk, unquote. Gray, trying to pin Hinshaw down

00:43:46.300 on her use of the phrases conspiracy theory and naysayers to describe those who do not reach the

00:43:52.160 same conclusions as government doctors did. Hinshaw explains that a small number of individuals with

00:43:57.700 different opinions do not change the consensus. Gray said the government opinion was the only

00:44:03.520 correct one. Is that right? This is him asking. Regardless of where the opinion came from,

00:44:08.980 then Gray lists highly credentialed doctors with divergent viewpoints. And Hinshaw says, I disagree.

00:44:17.640 So she can disagree, but nobody else can disagree. Do you see? This is all coming out in court right

00:44:25.220 now i certainly hope we have an even-minded judge hearing this case gray then says uh paraphrasing

00:44:32.520 but that's what you're saying when you say that you rely on the consensus gray then confronts

00:44:38.900 hinshaw with data from the canadian government about covet deaths i think to impugn the consensus

00:44:44.080 predictions made by consensus doctors the ahs lawyer immediately objects then gray starts asking

00:44:50.300 Hinshaw about her affidavit, wherein she states that personal freedom opposes behavior change.

00:44:55.880 Do you see personal freedom as merely an inconvenience? Leighton Gray asks. Hinshaw

00:45:01.920 says, paraphrased behavior change is inconvenient. Different people hold different values. We tried

00:45:07.560 to balance. Gray says, for the government and dealing with COVID and the hierarchy of values,

00:45:13.500 public health was over personal liberty. Hinshaw says, when the threat was rising,

00:45:18.840 specific liberties were limited to protect public health as a whole gray then says give us an example

00:45:24.360 of a scientific study that was commissioned by the province of alberta that shows lockdowns were

00:45:28.960 effective the ahs lawyer objects gray then says she expressed her opinion i am asking for the data

00:45:38.080 to back that up the judge allows it hinshaw then says there have been many studies around the world

00:45:45.440 about the impacts of non-pharmaceutical interventions.

00:45:48.540 Now, what she's talking about are lockdowns

00:45:50.680 and mask mandates and whatnot.

00:45:52.080 She doesn't mean Alberta studies.

00:45:54.300 Instead, she talks about ICU numbers

00:45:56.860 in relation to when restrictions were imposed.

00:46:00.880 Bray then says, but government's own data

00:46:02.520 concerning ICU numbers is unreliable.

00:46:04.660 You gave a statement January 10th

00:46:06.860 about the nature of ICU admissions

00:46:08.420 and how those were reported and classified.

00:46:11.320 Hinshaw explains that overall ICU admissions

00:46:13.720 stayed the same and it put pressure on the system so is she lying go back to january 10th she's on

00:46:21.620 she's giving unreliable statistics and now she's saying well no they stayed the same what

00:46:27.260 grace says well hinshaw explains that overall icu admission stayed the same and it put pressure

00:46:34.280 on the system grace says but wasn't that misinformation then right hinshaw says we

00:46:41.040 didn't know that information to be inaccurate at the time, but you didn't know it to be accurate

00:46:46.700 either. And you put it out anyway. Gray produces an examination of over 80 COVID-19 studies from

00:46:56.520 around the world that show lockdowns relied on false assumptions that overestimated benefits

00:47:02.100 and underestimated harms by Douglas W. Allen. The AHS lawyer immediately objects. Arguments

00:47:09.920 started to happen then leighton gray continues here we have a contrary opinion to lockdowns

00:47:16.420 that the harms vastly outweighed the evidence hinshaw says that is the opinion of one individual

00:47:21.460 i would not be able to comment but the contrary opinion is from an economist who looked at over

00:47:26.460 80 studies on lockdowns hinshaw says we use non-pharmaceutical interventions lockdowns

00:47:31.920 sparingly and sparsely.

00:47:33.360 What?

00:47:36.080 What?

00:47:39.120 Sparingly and sparsely.

00:47:40.400 Now, this comes from Sheila Gunn-Reed. 1.00

00:47:42.640 Closing gyms, restaurants, jailing pastors.

00:47:45.140 By the way, Pastor Artur just got out of jail after 51 days in Alberta.

00:47:52.760 Chaining up churches, incarcerating a rural entrepreneur.

00:47:56.260 That would be Chris Scott.

00:47:58.360 Seizing businesses, fining people, and medical discrimination.

00:48:01.920 Gray says, was there ever a time pursuant to the course of your orders that in-person worship was prohibited?

00:48:09.900 She says no.

00:48:14.380 Are you aware of the church closures? Gray asks.

00:48:18.580 AHS lawyer immediately objects.

00:48:21.240 Gray is naturally referring to Grace Life Church, Harvest Baptist, and Cave of Adalem.

00:48:26.720 Gray asks Sincha about her masking rules for children.

00:48:29.420 AHS objects because Gray's clients are not children.

00:48:31.920 gray says he is cross-examining hinshaw on her evidence and she put evidence of children not

00:48:37.560 being a great risk of covet spread in her own affidavit judge allows this gray is now making

00:48:43.140 hinshaw confirm many of the horrible restrictions she imposed five people in a gathering outside

00:48:48.260 closed gyms restricted funerals to just 10 closed indoor dining 15 in churches there are prison

00:48:55.700 inmates this is what gray says there are prison inmates who would not be subject to such harsh

00:49:00.960 restrictions. AHS launches an objection, says Gray is being argumentative. Gray says she testified

00:49:07.180 that her restrictions were the least restrictive measures. How can she say this? The judge allows

00:49:12.520 it. Hinshaw says you were trying to protect the acute care system. Gray, now asking about Christmas

00:49:19.480 and Hanukkah restrictions on gathering, calls them fundamentally discriminatory, that people

00:49:23.980 who celebrate those holidays would be harmed more and first by Hinshaw's rejections that hit in the

00:49:29.920 winter and then it goes into the afternoon section after lunch gray asks hinshaw about the use of

00:49:36.480 therapeutics versus lockdowns she says she looked at the sum of evidence available to her and saw

00:49:42.560 no data that showed the benefit of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of covid

00:49:48.420 gray says we know there are other jurisdictions for example florida that after the initial stage

00:49:54.780 gave info and trusted the public and protected liberty wasn't there always another way to go

00:50:00.720 now that's a question right even though the ahs lawyer stands up and says objection argumentative

00:50:08.600 judge paraphrase rephrase court breaks for 10 minutes uh then let's go down here

00:50:15.080 and now we have the other lawyer come on uh wrath is his name are you aware that your numerous

00:50:23.360 orders have resulted in the bankruptcies of many alberta businesses i believe that albertans are

00:50:27.920 entitled to know the ahs lawyer again objects says hinshaw answered this i did not hear her answer

00:50:35.400 she simply acknowledged harms wrath is now asking about the suicide data for 2021 hinshaw put

00:50:42.960 evidence of 2020 suicide rates suggesting they were lower than the previous five years are you

00:50:48.120 suggesting no people have committed suicide as a result of your orders wrath says are you aware

00:50:54.200 of suicides that were caused as a result of your orders hinshaw hard to know why people commit

00:50:58.380 individual suicides wrath says was this a concern when making your orders hinshaw says mental health

00:51:03.520 was always a concern then wrath says shows hinshaw hinshaw an ahs document about suicide showing most

00:51:10.260 visits to emergency rooms about suicide aged 20 to 39 the implication here is that lockdowns on

00:51:17.280 young people, which don't seem to make sense given their COVID outcomes, may drive suicide

00:51:21.880 rates up. We have heard that in Manitoba from Mike Voyjakis of Voyage Funeral Homes, who has told us

00:51:28.800 he is sick and tired of seeing young people come into his establishment after having committed

00:51:33.640 suicide. How these doctors continue to deny this is absolutely appalling. I'm sorry, guys, I'm

00:51:41.760 yelling but i cannot believe the robotic reactions from these people and they say we're the uncaring

00:51:52.740 ones wrath says were you receiving inputs from the scientific advisory group relating to the

00:52:03.480 broader impacts on the mental health of albertans from lockdowns hinshaw says not from that group

00:52:08.620 No.

00:52:10.600 So clearly, I mean, anybody could see this.

00:52:14.400 Clearly, Dina Hinshaw, the chief medical officer for the province of Alberta, only listened to some people, the people she agreed with.

00:52:28.060 And I don't think it would be a stretch to suggest that every single chief medical health officer in this entire country did the same thing.

00:52:38.620 how do we know who they're listening to they never told us how do we know what statistical

00:52:46.520 data they were using to impose these restrictions these lockdowns the mask mandates will we don't

00:52:51.720 know i'm not sure we'll ever know and this is what we're trying to get out here this is what

00:52:57.980 leighton gray and his associates with the jccf are trying to get out and every time they try

00:53:04.600 the ahs lawyer stands up and says objection argumentative does it seem like the playing

00:53:11.400 field is maybe rigged here i'm getting mad reading this i mean it you know it's good

00:53:17.920 but it's not because they're stonewalling let's continue wrath says did you receive input from

00:53:24.820 the scientific advisory group about the psychological harms of masking kids was

00:53:29.400 there information provided to you in those reports hinshaw says i would need to go back and review

00:53:34.060 rath notes no one from the advisory group was a psychologist rath asks if hinshaw was aware of

00:53:41.700 the economic impacts of her edicts hinshaw says yes i would have heard from the economic experts

00:53:47.400 rath says can you tell the court how many billions of dollars cmoh orders have cost

00:53:53.420 the economy of alberta hinshaw says it's not appropriate to assume that all economic impacts

00:53:58.600 are related to orders. Some were as a result of community spread.

00:54:03.620 Does that even make sense to you? That answer? Rath says, as an Albertan, surely you have

00:54:12.720 shuttered bars and businesses. AHS lawyer goes to object, realizes he has none, and instead just

00:54:18.960 audibly groans. Hinshaw says, yes, I have seen. Rath says, did your orders contribute to this?

00:54:25.040 Hinshaw says, I am sure the orders were a factor.

00:54:29.980 Rath asks Hinshaw about Kenny's plan to wildly ramp up health care capacity at the beginning of the pandemic.

00:54:35.860 She says there were insufficient staff to expand capacity in the way that Kenny promised. 1.00

00:54:40.720 Good thing they laid off all those unvaccinated health care workers. 0.99

00:54:45.060 That's Sheila Gunraid editorializing. 1.00

00:54:49.100 Then they have some back and forth and then they're done for the day and the case will continue tomorrow.

00:54:54.760 and on thursday as well great job from sheila gun reed of rebel media tweeting this and she

00:55:02.480 says she's going to do it tomorrow too and thursday and great job by marty gold my buddy marty

00:55:09.200 for putting that all together legibly so we could all understand it so that's the case that is that

00:55:16.860 is fomenting right now in alberta and i hope they keep grinding her and grinding her and grinding

00:55:22.880 her because those non-answers are actually answers and they tell the story don't they 1.00

00:55:29.200 to me they tell the story of a very confused woman

00:55:34.800 who became tribal

00:55:40.240 she became tribal

00:55:43.440 and she

00:55:46.400 listening in that echo chamber decided the best course of action was to lock down an entire society

00:55:52.880 And the same goes for Brent Rusin and all of these other maniacs.

00:55:58.300 I'm going to call them maniacs because that's what they are.

00:56:05.100 Locked down an entire society when they could have looked at something like the Great Barrington Declaration,

00:56:10.260 which was asked about by Leighton Gray yesterday, by the way. 0.99

00:56:14.640 And Dina Hinshaw just kind of sloughed it off. 1.00

00:56:16.820 look at the way 1.00

00:56:21.160 provinces responded

00:56:23.340 to the H1N1 epidemic

00:56:25.420 they

00:56:29.040 protected the vulnerable

00:56:30.800 and it lasted for a couple of months

00:56:33.020 and then it was over

00:56:33.900 I wonder

00:56:35.840 if they would have done the same thing with this

00:56:39.300 if the same results

00:56:40.900 would have happened

00:56:41.980 I guess we'll never know

00:56:45.180 i guess we'll never know so when they talk about all of the people all of the the covid 19 deaths

00:56:53.740 and how tragic it is and look man i'm not going to sit here and say that it's been a bed of roses

00:56:59.100 and that people didn't die from this i'm not going to say that not at all but when you measure

00:57:06.520 that versus the people who have suffered

00:57:11.640 who've committed suicide, who've died of other causes other than COVID-19 because they couldn't

00:57:18.360 get access. And let's not just blame this virus either. Let's blame the reaction to it. And not

00:57:26.760 just from government, not just from bureaucrats, but from the hospitals themselves. What were the

00:57:30.860 treatment plans? What were the early treatment plans? Dina Henshaw says she saw studies that

00:57:38.760 absolutely say hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin don't work and yet you have doctors absolute

00:57:45.000 worldwide doctors absolutely saying that those two drugs do early stages especially

00:57:52.640 but no real long clinical trials have been looked at so of course they can't say that for certain

00:58:01.280 but yet they can roll out an experimental drug

00:58:06.260 on the entire population of the planet

00:58:09.860 without completing all of the trials

00:58:13.180 and say that's okay

00:58:14.500 but you can't use ivermectin

00:58:19.020 because we haven't had complete and total studies

00:58:21.240 to show that it works yet

00:58:22.660 a drug that's been around for over 40 years

00:58:25.000 and it's part of the essential drugs list

00:58:27.320 a drug that won awards

00:58:31.060 why not at least try it

00:58:36.760 some jurisdictions did try it

00:58:39.960 and they had success with it

00:58:41.160 but some were absolutely opposed to it

00:58:43.600 why?

00:58:44.920 we know the answers to this don't we

00:58:47.020 and so you have 0.95

00:58:48.980 somebody like Dina Hinshaw 1.00

00:58:50.840 who's sitting up there on that stand 1.00

00:58:53.000 clinging

00:58:56.260 to a narrative that has crumbled

00:58:59.680 and yet the left-wing corporate media just keeps pouring it on

00:59:07.600 they just keep pouring it on guys so this is not over you know i mean we we sit here and we go oh

00:59:17.660 yeah well you know we can go to restaurants now we can go to bars yeah who as unvaccinated

00:59:23.320 citizens of this country we still can't leave we can't leave

00:59:29.680 we can't travel by air, we can't travel by train.

00:59:36.820 It's not over.

00:59:38.540 And neither is this whole big push to get people needles.

00:59:42.680 Ottawa, from the CBC,

00:59:44.940 considering the definition of fully vaccinated

00:59:47.740 in review of federal worker mandate.

00:59:51.080 So there's a new regulation coming down

00:59:54.640 for federal workers tomorrow.

00:59:56.600 The federal government could consider including booster shots.

00:59:59.680 in the next version of the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for its workers.

01:00:03.920 And this is bad.

01:00:06.100 Because if the federal government does this,

01:00:08.260 then you know that corporate Canada will follow along.

01:00:10.820 They're already, some of them, doing it.

01:00:14.180 Peak of the market in Winnipeg.

01:00:16.800 It's a big company, guys.

01:00:20.060 Peak of the market is already doing it.

01:00:22.020 Got to have a third shot.

01:00:24.700 Or you can't work here anymore.

01:00:27.500 Yeah.

01:00:27.980 it's not just governments it's corporations big huge corporations pushing this crap down our

01:00:36.340 throats but that comes right from the world economic forum right private public partnerships

01:00:41.580 you got to get everybody on board that's why you see so many of these young global leaders

01:00:46.020 as politicians and as business people and very involved in the central banks

01:00:50.860 high up the corporate chain it's not just governments

01:00:58.540 the government must review the need for the vaccine mandate policy which currently requires

01:01:04.860 federal public servants to get two doses of the vaccine or face unpaid leave after six months

01:01:10.160 that timeline runs out tomorrow and while treasury board has consulted with the unions over the last

01:01:17.280 several weeks the public service alliance of canada says it has no notion of what the government

01:01:21.340 intends to do they have said you will see a renewed policy on april the 6th chris uh a word

01:01:27.680 says the national president of the union i have no idea what that renewed policy might look like

01:01:32.000 a spokesperson for the treasury board said no update or decision is planned for wednesday

01:01:38.140 the what the government's vaccine policy review for public servants is currently underway and

01:01:44.200 the results will be communicated in due course. While the review could conclude the mandate is

01:01:50.060 no longer necessary, the government also could opt to expand it to encourage more members of

01:01:54.920 the public service to get booster shots. Any decision, now listen to this, any decision will

01:02:00.420 be based on science and the advice of public health officials. Oh no. Well, you know what

01:02:05.520 that means then, don't you? Yeah. From the Globe and Mail, provinces should prepare to offer

01:02:13.820 second COVID-19 booster shots the national vaccine panel says of course they do they're a panel of

01:02:21.200 vaccine people that's a panel of vaccine pushers this time next year get your seventh shot oh yes

01:02:31.400 absolutely you got to roll out that seventh shot we've been saying this for how long

01:02:36.640 and people are going along with it you know I ran into a guy I hadn't seen

01:02:42.440 today in about 30 years and he said yeah i got the two jabs for work but i'm not getting the

01:02:48.420 third i said what if they make you he goes no no no not doing it they can shove it up their ass

01:02:54.680 that's what he said to me he's a city employee too so that's going to be interesting

01:03:00.080 uh what happens there if they try and force this issue provinces and territories

01:03:07.260 guys, hang on just a second, should quickly get ready to offer fourth doses of COVID-19 vaccines

01:03:13.640 in the coming weeks, starting with people over age 80 and just like they rolled it out last year.

01:03:18.860 And long-term care residents, the National Advisory Committee on Immunization recommended

01:03:23.340 Tuesday. Well, you want to know what? They're already doing that in Ontario. And of course,

01:03:27.540 because they're doing it in Ontario, you can bet that the rest of the provinces will follow suit.

01:03:33.000 So get ready for fourth shots being offered in Manitoba very soon.

01:03:37.840 Remember last night we told you the University of Toronto was repealing their vaccine passport mandate and their mask mandate?

01:03:44.420 Well, at the University of Manitoba, this was sent to me last night.

01:03:48.040 Thank you very much.

01:03:49.620 This came out March 21st.

01:03:52.080 This week marks two years since the University of Manitoba moved to remote operations to help stop the spread of COVID.

01:03:58.840 And since then, our community has continued to make blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:04:03.000 The vaccine mandate will end after the winter term, but masks will continue.

01:04:09.340 They said they've announced that starting on May 4th, the University of Manitoba will no longer require staff, students or visitors coming to our campus to have proof of vaccination.

01:04:17.740 We will, however, continue to make the wearing of masks mandatory.

01:04:21.680 Why?

01:04:24.420 We know these breathing barriers do not work.

01:04:29.280 these people who go to university how old are they well they're between age what 18 and 22

01:04:35.540 mature students maybe 25 or 26 not at risk

01:04:38.620 from tnc.news true north bc supreme court this is bad news refuses to stop province from

01:04:47.840 firing unvaxxed employees after deferring her decision for a week a bc supreme court judge has

01:04:54.420 refused to grant an injunction preventing the government from firing suspended public servants

01:04:58.900 for not providing proof of COVID vaccination.

01:05:02.200 This is still going on in British Columbia

01:05:03.760 and at the federal level.

01:05:05.260 Like I keep saying, guys, it's not over.

01:05:10.280 It's not over.

01:05:12.100 I want it to be over so badly.

01:05:17.640 I'm tired.

01:05:21.500 I think you are too.

01:05:26.140 But the fight continues, right?

01:05:28.900 justice carol j ross dismissed a petition friday brought forward by four non-union bc public

01:05:37.080 servants to temporarily pause their imminent terminations the group had requested the injunction

01:05:41.460 to keep from being fired before their constitutional case against the province's vaccine mandate could

01:05:47.080 be heard in may the decision comes not only as vaccine passports have been dropped in every other

01:05:52.420 province but also as unvaccinated public workers are being welcomed back to workplaces across canada

01:05:58.440 The city of Victoria, where Friday's court decision was made, also announced last week that it was lifting its vaccine mandate and inviting suspended municipal employees back to work.

01:06:09.460 But not the province.

01:06:13.380 So what is it with Bonnie Henry anyway?

01:06:16.000 I mean, she's the Brent Rusin of British Columbia.

01:06:19.700 She had time to write a book about her response and the province's response to the pandemic.

01:06:26.100 A book?

01:06:28.440 and it came out a year ago already wow how do you write a book while you're trying to

01:06:33.240 juggle an entire medical system in a pandemic

01:06:43.560 i know heather was talking about acceptance and i'm with her on that if you have people

01:06:50.840 that are petrified they're scared senseless and they're wearing the face shields and they're

01:06:56.120 They're wearing triple masks and they've got the gloves on whenever they go out.

01:07:00.360 Look, man, there's nothing you can do to help that person.

01:07:09.380 Please don't be confrontational or dismissive of those people.

01:07:17.180 Because that's not going to help things.

01:07:19.720 I know you want to. I do.

01:07:22.140 I want to just walk up to them and rip the freaking thing off their face.

01:07:28.440 I really do.

01:07:30.900 But you stop yourself because, you know, when we're sitting here watching on our computers, we're on social media, it's really easy.

01:07:41.640 It's really easy to be mean because you're not in the position, not really.

01:07:48.860 but when you're out there and like heather was saying you know you see the the actual fear the

01:07:57.020 terror on their faces you know that they have been affected by everything that's happened

01:08:02.200 the psyop worked on many people we have to help them out of it and

01:08:11.140 what do you do when you see somebody drowning you don't jump on them you don't throw them

01:08:18.380 a boulder and try and help them out right and that's what is going on with many of these people

01:08:24.000 they are drowning they're drowning in the nonsense quite literally and this is where

01:08:29.500 the mental health aspect comes into it my guys there are so many battles we're facing on so

01:08:35.560 many different fronts we still have to fight the government and the corporation and the

01:08:40.600 corporations on all of these lockdowns but we also have to help the people who can't seem to

01:08:46.440 help themselves right now. Some of them

01:08:48.440 don't want it.

01:08:55.320 I ran into 1.00

01:08:56.560 a woman today

01:08:57.820 who I've been very

01:09:00.400 close to for over

01:09:02.300 40 years.

01:09:06.600 She's 79 years old.

01:09:09.900 She is

01:09:10.560 one of the

01:09:13.700 warmest

01:09:15.740 biggest hearted people

01:09:17.820 I have ever known.

01:09:22.100 And

01:09:22.580 double vaccinated. 0.84

01:09:27.320 She's got a stutter now.

01:09:32.020 And I wondered what that was from.

01:09:34.080 And so I said,

01:09:34.780 what's this?

01:09:38.380 And she goes, 0.93

01:09:39.200 well, the doctors can't quite figure it out.

01:09:42.960 And so when I got home later on in the day,

01:09:44.940 I looked it up.

01:09:45.740 Neurological issues can be a part of vaccine injuries, vaccine side effects, including stutters.

01:10:01.440 But I didn't say to her what I thought happened.

01:10:07.020 Because that's the other thing.

01:10:08.900 People who have been vaccine injured, they already know it.

01:10:12.360 They know it inside, right?

01:10:14.180 You don't have to tell them.

01:10:15.320 It's like saying, I told you, I told you, why would you do that?

01:10:21.540 So instead you just sit back and you listen and you try to be as compassionate as you possibly can.

01:10:29.500 Look, man, the fight continues. 0.99

01:10:30.960 People like Dina Henshaw, they're a problem, obviously. 1.00

01:10:35.600 They're still trying to push this crap down our throats. 0.55

01:10:38.080 but the people who are buying it right now

01:10:42.100 or who have been injured by it

01:10:43.860 mentally, physically, or both

01:10:45.980 they need our help

01:10:47.840 but we can't force it on them either

01:10:53.400 we can't point fingers in their faces

01:10:56.440 and we can't say

01:10:57.220 haha, I told you

01:10:58.840 we can't

01:11:00.440 we can't 0.97

01:11:02.620 because all of the blowhards on social media 1.00

01:11:06.480 fine those are the ones you want to see get their comeuppance right i get it i totally do

01:11:13.440 but the vast amount of people remember you know five to ten percent of people are on social media

01:11:21.780 to comment like there's a lot more people than that on social media obviously but

01:11:27.240 only five to ten percent comment on social media they just watch and see most of these people

01:11:35.200 They just watch, they read, they lurk.

01:11:37.820 The vast majority are lurkers.

01:11:41.880 So what you see, what you read on social media

01:11:45.900 is not the entire picture.

01:11:50.880 So these are the people that need our compassion.

01:11:55.480 And we'll try and help them out of it.

01:11:57.900 We've been strong.

01:11:58.880 We've managed to work our way through this somewhat.

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The Shadoe Davis Show - April 06, 2022

Shadoe at Nite Tues. Apr. 5th⧸2022 w⧸guest Heather Prosak

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