00:05:43.720How's the ride been since the beginning, since the rise of the raging dissident?
00:05:48.600did you ever think you were going to get this kind of attention no no no no no i i just wanted
00:05:55.060to uh i didn't really have and i think that's maybe why it it succeeded as much as it did i
00:06:00.500didn't really have any long term i mean it's important to have goals i guess but i wasn't
00:06:04.120really so focused on you know i gotta get this many followers i gotta get on this many i gotta
00:06:08.700i was just doing it because i was having fun i i liked it i i like to say you know whatever was
00:06:13.180on my mind and and uh you know express myself and i like to i like i'm a creative person and i like
00:06:17.900i did a lot of you know old school kind of youtube videos and silly things and stuff and
00:06:21.420i tried to i had a lot of influence um one of the biggest influences on me growing up
00:06:25.580my in your impressionable years was was george carlin and um in that kind of vein of thinking
00:06:30.420he like he was a very ruthless you know he would tell you what he thought but he tried to be funny
00:06:34.020about it at the same time so it kind of made the medicine go down easier so i like that i like that
00:06:37.960about him and that always kind of stuck with me and that was kind of i just like doing it and
00:06:42.360wherever it went it wasn't a big you know focus and it just you know it became a thing it's easy
00:06:46.960forget it's been five or six years you know i've been doing this it wasn't like where did this guy
00:06:50.980came out of nowhere no i've been at this for five straight years pretty much and i didn't make a
00:06:55.740penny for the first three and a half you know so yeah i hear that actually losing a lot of money
00:07:00.520well you're debanked man you're debanked i mean this you know this this thing that you put up on
00:07:06.960friday i listened to this and i went i can't hear this so well because the guy on the phone so i
00:07:12.520had to turn it up i ran it through a compressor and yeah i couldn't believe what i was hearing
00:07:17.520was this call just random for you did it just come out of the blue what what the hell yeah there
00:07:24.020was no nothing that precipitated this it wasn't like i'd been in the bank and like shoved some
00:07:27.740people around and like smacked the guy's wife or anything like that i you know went in like
00:07:32.020everybody else does i wired some people my lawyer some money and that was i you know been at this
00:07:36.740bank for 30 almost 30 years it's probably early early 90s you know and uh i was in the bank i was
00:07:43.240causing a commotion man i was holding the place up with a gun i had a dog something was on fire
00:07:48.380you know it was a whole thing they got a man about it no there was nothing and i was just it was four
00:07:52.440o'clock on a friday afternoon he called me and um i first noticed like there's a problem here because
00:07:57.280it's a white guy on the phone calling you from the bank now normally when the bank calls it's
00:08:00.660some guy from bangladesh or pakistan trying to sell you a higher credit card limit or something
00:08:04.340so he's like this is graham from the bank i was like oh this isn't good let me get a let me get
00:08:09.520a record hold on a second gram and i and i was like okay yeah go ahead and the rest is what i
00:08:14.360put on the internet yeah i basically that was it he said there'll be more details on monday
00:08:18.300you'll get a letter or tuesday whatever and they purulated me this this this letter as fast as
00:08:22.840possible and it was signed uh sincerely scotia bank by no one by no one no contact information
00:08:29.300and there was no explanation it just said you were terminating all of these accounts and all
00:08:33.220these credit cards and all of this and and see ya well you should probably figure figure out
00:08:37.720something you got 30 days before we do this that's all it said it also said that if i if i step foot
00:08:42.340on the branch any branch anywhere in the world i would be arrested what does scotia bank signature
00:08:46.980look like nice big looping s um it was it well it just said yours truly scotia bank and then
00:08:54.040it was i i didn't it's probably written in invisible ink but i think it's just a big
00:08:57.380middle finger i think it said thanks for the money sucker and that was it something like that
00:09:02.780so they have never they still have yet to give you a reason for this right yeah there isn't there's
00:09:07.740no officially and i don't think they have to under the new laws in canada that were passed in the
00:09:11.440you know mid-teens of the you know or the early years of the regime they changed the rules that
00:09:16.000i don't think they have to anymore i think they can just do this what do you not call banking and
00:09:20.660i was talking about this last night on the show and i thought you know we've got natural gas we've
00:09:25.380got hydropower we've got electricity we've got essential services right uh where people if you
00:09:31.500deny people their essential services you can be sued you can't do it it's illegal in some
00:09:36.220provinces and i would consider banking to be that way because in order for us to pay things
00:09:41.160anything these days mortgage as you say bank or car loans whatever you got to go through your bank
00:09:47.680you know people don't even realize that so it's an essential service they're withdrawing that
00:09:51.500well how do i how do how does how do i even collect my pension from from veterans affairs
00:09:57.340do they mail me does a guy come on horseback and just throw a you know a bag of gold at me like
00:10:03.540what what is this gonna i mean oh that's fine i'll take it if that's what they want to do but
00:10:06.640um you know right and i was just uh had a great conversation with maria z in australia
00:10:12.320earlier today and we talked about this and i i said uh you know like where where did you draw
00:10:17.060the line they say well banking is a privilege it's not a right nobody has a right to a bank
00:10:21.420account it's a privilege yeah you don't uh electricity is a privilege so is indoor plumbing
00:10:26.120what's to stop in Syria in all seriousness what's if this is allowed to continue what is just and
00:10:31.460I'm not the only person this has happened to this has happened to hundreds of Canadians already0.76
00:10:34.020and they just don't have a platform and they can go out and kick and scream and post it on Facebook
00:10:38.540and their aunt gives them a sad emoji like oh that's terrible and that's it like there's nobody
00:10:42.840to help them right so this this needs to be addressed this is something that's happening
00:10:46.640why if this continues why not why can't that continue why can't you be banned from
00:10:50.100grocery no more Sobeys for you ever we don't like what you said on the internet uh your power
00:10:54.560company oh why can't i con i don't like you shadow davis you said some very hurtful whatever all the
00:11:00.600things that we don't like and i don't i'm contacting your power company and how can you do business with
00:11:04.720this person how your power company is is powering his his bigotry you know it's powering his radio
00:11:10.320show how can you do this and well we're going to cut ties because we don't we don't like that
00:11:14.160it's a free country you know build your own power station just go get your own you know it's a
00:11:19.020privilege not a right where does it end i mean really it could it could have you been in touch
00:11:26.860with any other banks or credit unions is there anybody who will do business with jeremy mckenzie
00:11:32.700i doubt it um i'm gonna find out i have a couple of appointments this week
00:11:37.980all you can do is laugh i've been saying this the early days i said you can laugh or you can cry i
00:11:43.660learned this in the military it's like the situation is what it is whatever you do whatever
00:11:47.460whatever you do next is what matters and your attitude going forward is very important so if
00:11:50.980you're doing all woe is me and that's not helpful you're still in the situation is this helping you
00:11:56.240get out of it or move past the obstacle or is it no it's right i just choose to laugh instead like
00:12:00.360the joker and people will think you're insane and steer clear of you and you'll convince yourself
00:12:04.540you're having a good time and you'll it'll say it's been working for me so far right you know
00:12:09.620but um so yeah i i don't uh i i like to you know don't like to give the enemy my enemies a
00:12:15.040satisfaction you know i just like to you know have fun with it i expected this was going to
00:12:18.220happen i'm not surprised by it um has anything else happened to you aside from being debanked
00:12:23.100where have you been depowered or decard or anything well not yet uh the last couple of
00:12:29.880vehicles i had i had paid they're just you know three thousand dollars but used cars i would just
00:12:33.860drive beaters around you know um i have a you know a vehicle loan uh two actually one of them is you
00:12:40.480know my my kid my children's mom their mother is driving and the house that they live in that i
00:12:45.740pay for but that's all through the so um so far i mean that's all i got to find replacements for
00:12:50.480all of that but as the rest of it no but they've finished with the i guess they've done all the
00:12:54.880jailing and that stuff for now now we're going to try now we're going to do the bank account
00:12:58.940attacking oh we've done the media stuff and then the law fair and now we're going to do this and
00:13:03.340then i think i think after this the next level is assassination i think is the next attempt i don't
00:13:08.580know what's left to do what are you going to take away my birthday like I don't know what
00:13:11.560I don't know what are you going to do now you no longer have a birthday good I'll stay 36 forever
00:13:18.780just how I like it good listen I gotta I gotta talk because I we everybody watched you during
00:13:24.960the uh the inquiry uh testify you were in jail in Saskatchewan and I didn't know what the hell
00:13:31.520I mean somebody had told me he's in jail in Saskatchewan I went why is he in jail in Saskatchewan
00:13:36.880what's going on how did you wind up there can you talk about this is it is it okay to talk about now
00:13:41.560there is very little i can say about the case um because there's a publication ban that the
00:13:46.480government insisted on not me the state insisted on there being a publication ban so i'll just
00:13:51.340leave that as it is i would have been fine with you know everything being but um so there's that
00:13:56.940um but yeah essentially there's accusations made and because i am if it's my opinion that if i was
00:14:04.820anyone else, none of this would have happened. But because I am who I am, and I've been very
00:14:08.600vocally attacking the RCMP for years for their very obvious, very well-documented missteps and
00:14:15.180overreach and abuses of their many, many different powers and covering up of this and facilitating
00:14:20.680that, I'd been targeted by them since 2020 and 2021. Various police forces were investigating
00:14:26.740me for my ideology, for looking into my background, wanting to know who I talk to and where I know
00:14:31.220for no reason i had never been arrested in my life until last year i you know uh no criminal
00:14:36.440record nothing i did 14 and a half years in the military and and uh retired get out and started
00:14:41.400doing this and for some reason all of a sudden i'm you know public enemy number one um so there's
00:14:46.400been a very heavy-handed i think inordinate amount of police resources used against me
00:14:51.420um in a number of cases now and if i had a thousand dollars for every time throughout this
00:14:56.740process somebody said i've never seen anything like this before this is very unusual normally
00:15:01.840this doesn't happen around the board i would be able to pay all my legal fees out on cash right
00:15:06.800now you know it's just i've just come to get used to it i've kind of there's two places you don't
00:15:11.700want to hear those expressions one in the lawyer's office the other in the doctor's office i would
00:15:15.740imagine uh diagonal on a lot of the viewers know what diagonal on is you've explained it a million
00:15:21.220times i know what it is i i believe it's basically a name for your subscriber group online it's it's
00:15:29.300it's i you know what i was thinking this before i sat down because i was just upstairs watching
00:15:33.660to another guy talking about what was going on and i'm like i don't even know how i would describe
00:15:38.980it because i i'm not it's so it's such a nebulous idea like there's so much going on so i thought of
00:15:44.140it like a tree um the tree that dagelon is the tree but there's a lot of branches you can cut
00:15:49.440branches off a tree and the tree will survive but if you cut off a lot of them it's a lot of
00:15:52.380different things but the core of what it is is essentially uh the audience it's my it's like a
00:15:57.380fan club it's like a community of people like we're just uh you know if you go to a star trek
00:16:01.460convention they call them trekkies you know we're really into star trek okay yeah that's that's at
00:16:07.040the core of that's essentially what it is uh what it isn't is a militia it's not a you know white
00:16:12.540supremacist ethnostate like none of these things literally none of the things they say are accurate
00:16:17.240and people would rather take the expo oh well cbc says it's this and someone else says it's that so
00:16:21.840that no one ever asked they very rarely ask me it's almost never happens and they just like to
00:16:26.100run with these ideas and make fools themselves which is fine with me because in the long run
00:16:30.000you know the internet's got a long permanent memory so i i remember tom marazzo being asked
00:16:35.160about that when he was on the stand at the inquiry i i can't remember if they asked you about it
00:16:39.520yes they did and i want to ask you how your time in jail was if you can even talk it's not about
00:16:46.280the case just about how you were treated what it was like in there and i'll tell you why i ask
00:16:51.060because usually we see a very you know uh spirited guy when we see a video of you yeah and you look
00:16:59.740different it was a little bit to me it was i meant oh god they must be treating them like hell yeah
00:17:05.720uh not really i mean jail is not good you know it's not a good time i've had the privilege now
00:17:11.400of being in numerous jails you know and uh in halifax uh you know out here it's uh better i
00:17:17.280certainly say that the way the inmates are treated in eastern canada is certainly a hell of a lot
00:17:20.560better than western canada for sure um but uh yeah it you know it's not great a lot of people
00:17:26.440viva fry asked me that he's like how much weight did you lose i was like none i am the same size
00:17:30.420i went in at about 192 pounds it came out around 183 like i might have lost nine pounds from not
00:17:35.080eating pizza about that that's about it you know i shaved the beard off so it you know it's i look
00:17:40.020a lot different so people did they did you have to shave it off or was it something that no i just
00:17:44.640well i mean i so i did a couple of guys did try to stab me because i'm a white supremacist and
00:17:48.780they ran that on the news constantly for real and having a long something to grab onto when you're
00:17:54.060fighting in jail which happened to me a couple of times is not an advantage so it's not a good
00:17:58.120thing to have a you know something you can grab onto and smash your guy's head around with so i
00:18:01.480was like this is a tactical not a good you know thing to have especially when i'm on the news
00:18:05.980anytime i had a court date or any an update it was on saskatoon ctv news uh which plays on the
00:18:12.940tvs and the common rooms and stuff in the jails and they're in the newspaper and there's nothing
00:18:15.740to do so everybody reads all the newspapers for something to do and they look here and they
00:18:19.400far right white supremacist neo-nazi militia and they look up and they look and that's you
00:18:24.800and you're like hi you know it's so yeah but it was okay i did make some friends some so there
00:18:31.600were some good guys in there and we we had fun we had you know we passed the time as you do in jail
00:18:35.780and it's pretty wild in there there was some pretty funny stories it was but uh yeah it generally
00:18:40.720sucks it's just you sit around and it's jail yeah you said pass the time as you do in jail and i'm
00:18:47.260sure that conjured a lot of different ideas for a lot of different people watching this right now0.93
00:18:52.220i uh i was when i rejoined the military at 17 the the recruiter said because i wanted to join
00:18:58.260the infantry because that was what i'd been romantically obsessed with since a kid all the
00:19:01.680war movies are about that every you know black hawk down saving private ryan all the cool it's
00:19:05.140always following infantrymen you know guys so that's what i wanted to do and he said no kid
00:19:08.980you know what you could be a pilot you could do this and i said no i want the infantry and he said
00:19:12.480kid the only thing the infantry is good for in real life when you transition out whenever that is
00:19:16.280the only thing the only skills you're going to have that are going to be useful in the civilian
00:19:19.160world are being homeless and going to jail he was very that was this guy knew what he was talking
00:19:25.120about because it was like this is familiar a lot of this is very similar you know let me ask you
00:19:30.380what your take on the media is i mean are these people like rachel gilmore who vilified you on
00:19:36.200twitter i mean i i watched this and i couldn't believe it i made her career i'm sure because
00:19:41.460she's i absolutely did she's got a healthy following on twitter and i don't know how
00:19:45.860she maintains a job i mean dude i i worked in radio for a very long time i worked in media
00:19:49.800for a very long time and when i was in it we had standards and there's no standards left anymore
00:19:54.640what what's your take on the left-wing corporate media are they are they go ahead then oh i know
00:20:00.900i just missed a uh note from greg there there was actually some guards in the jail that were fans
00:20:05.040of mine you know they were like i was like oh hey yeah it's like wow that's that's weird yeah
00:20:11.120the gangsters not so much but um yeah are they doing this to you on purpose or do they actually
00:20:16.440believe that diagonal line is some right-wing extremist militia um it's hard to say and that0.99
00:20:22.480goes for the government as well it depends on who you talk to i think the dumber people believe it0.95
00:20:26.400and the smarter ones see the advantage that the the opportunity that it presents that they can0.90
00:20:30.980convince people this is what it is and trick them into you know for political you know reasons like
00:20:34.960a lot of the stuff in coots you could point to like this seems very you know convenient but as
00:20:39.360far as the media goes and you know people like that like you know you can anytime she started
00:20:44.320talking about me she got tons of attention that's why they do it that's that's why they did it i
00:20:47.580didn't receive a i didn't get a christmas present this year from her i didn't get a christmas card
00:20:51.480i think that's i think that's uncalled for considering how much i've done for her and her
00:20:55.120career they uh she couldn't even send me a card i think she was busy you know getting a booster
00:20:59.660appointment or something or virtue signaling telling people to abandon their own families
00:21:02.740or maybe she had more impressing business i'm not sure but um my opinion of the media is very
00:21:07.540very low i'm sure you're sure you're aware um and it because and and they deserve it though
00:21:13.720that's that's the thing that people say i'm being mean you're being you're going over the top because
00:21:17.280i do it to get attention not for me but to draw attention to what i'm saying because if i go in
00:21:20.980there go hey guys the media is really bad and they're doing mean things or hurting people so
00:21:24.800you should stop supporting them it just doesn't doesn't impact anybody you know so i'm like i'm
00:21:29.960just gonna get i'm gonna you know when when you feel passionate about something speak speak about
00:21:34.500you know say what's in your heart i believe that and i think that's why it attracts me i think
00:21:38.520that's why people resonate with it because they can instinctively tell like this is this isn't a
00:21:42.220show i didn't script this this isn't like very you know we put it from some political think tanks
00:21:46.680We're going to make sure this plays well in these different regions and we're going to know people have been severely harmed by what's been happening in the media for decades, not just recently, but for decades.
00:21:55.5609-11, for example, all these same people, the same types of just repeat the information and put it out.
00:22:00.800You sent my generation of people to go fight wars that made no sense.
00:22:03.720Entire lives destroyed. And there was never any records. There was never an apology.
00:22:07.140They just made they want Alex Jones to pay billions of dollars for, you know, being wrong about Sandy Hook.
00:22:12.460when is the new york times going to pay billions of dollars for all the dead soldiers families
00:22:15.620for saying there's weapons of mass destruction iraq we need to go in there they lied it was a
00:22:20.520there was no substantiation so this is this has been my whole life you know watching watching
00:22:24.880this kind of stuff happen and now it's affecting everyone they're saying you know don't invite
00:22:28.480your family over for thanksgiving dinner um you know don't you're not you can't see you know my
00:22:32.720partner um couldn't go to the funeral of her own father they couldn't have one because you know
00:22:37.980the rules and so on and you're banishing people you know from the they've ruined lives and i i
00:22:42.980know six uh friends of mine that that killed themselves just in the last two years and this
00:22:48.100stuff definitely when you're already suffering or not doing great let's throw this nightmare on top
00:22:52.100of you stress and have you constantly fear-mongered to and browbeaten and yelled at by your television
00:22:56.840making you you know um they're responsible they've literally killed people and and continue to do so
00:23:02.680with their wildly irresponsible reporting which is basically propaganda and it's high time that
00:23:08.460people call them out for exactly what that is and they don't like me especially because i'm i'm the
00:23:13.160guy that comes by and grabs your dog you know and rubs his face in it you know look what you did you
00:23:18.180know that old strategy that's what i'm doing that's all i'm doing and if there was no poop to rub your
00:23:22.260face in on the ground we wouldn't be here but there is and you'd rather everyone ignore that
00:23:26.300you didn't you know you didn't just take a dump on the floor have you seen have you seen what
00:23:30.740they're doing uh with the bbc in in london the protests they had out there yesterday huge
00:23:36.100protests thousands of people showed up the media is the virus and this is something i've been
00:23:40.520actually saying as opposed to doing another convoy out here in winnipeg they've got i think
00:23:45.000they're calling it unity convoy 2.0 now it's going to be in a it's going to be in a field
00:23:50.200a couple of in in winnipeg or manitoba in the middle of february my friend i mean this is
00:23:55.860i don't know disaster wait it's not the the first one was so successful because there was like a
00:24:03.240perfect storm of factors and variables that aligned like a lot of a lot of things were going
00:24:07.400on at once and it just became this the pot boiled over essentially you know the kettle boiled and it
00:24:11.680was just you know this this took off and everyone was like screw it let's we might as well because
00:24:16.240at that time they were talking about uh banning people from grocery stores and make it you know
00:24:20.300more passports more they were getting crazy with the stuff they're saying the prime minister just
00:24:23.740came off saying should we even tolerate these people how long you know this they're taking up
00:24:27.720space how long do we i mean it was it was getting scary a lot of people were very justifiably afraid
00:24:32.480and the conservative party of course said absolutely nothing to support or protect any
00:24:36.400of these people because they thought ah it's just a you know fringe minority they believe this
00:24:39.360then you have a hundred thousand people show up and they go oh that's a lot of votes
00:24:42.700as many people are here probably for each one that is here there's probably 10 that wanted to
00:24:46.920be here and couldn't be so yeah i mean you got at least six million people you're talking about
00:24:50.900here so now they're like oh well there we the votes we better you know pander to these people
00:24:55.420anyway it was a lot of it just popped on its own it was a very organic grassroots thing that
00:25:00.500happened yeah and trying to force that i mean you can't it's like a magic moment it's like when you
00:25:05.100first meet your wife or something right or you have this magical like experience and it's like
00:25:08.640you can't construct that i can't produce this i can't you know build this somewhere it's just
00:25:14.300something that just happens um you know what this is something that i've been talking about too you
00:25:18.680can't recreate something like that it's it's like the sequel to a movie a bad sequel right you just
00:25:23.280can't you can maybe partially recreate it but you're never going to be able to get the full
00:25:27.400experience of it again right but what else can we do i mean now i think that maybe and this is
00:25:31.900something i was musing about friday once we heard about the situation that you were in with the
00:25:35.880debanking i thought wow maybe we could kind of instigate and and this is tougher to track because
00:25:42.020you're not going to be seeing people all together you know 100 000 people in one small downtown
00:25:46.340space in the capital city but what if what if we we got people to maybe just you know withdraw a
00:25:52.520thousand dollars or two thousand dollars from their bank accounts i understand money's tight
00:25:56.160right now inflation's high but you know if we got people to maybe just take some money out of their
00:26:00.440checking account and do a full-on bank run that's the way i think we can get to them we're not going
00:26:07.340to get to them by standing in front of the house of commons and screaming or any legislature across0.82
00:26:11.720the country we're going to have to do something it kicks them right in the financial balls and0.52
00:26:16.000And that's the thing. That's the reason the convoy was so successful at getting, you know, getting something to happen.
00:26:20.620I mean, they can say, oh, what did it do? Well, they did drop a lot of the mandates.
00:26:23.140And it made very clear that this country was not going to stand for much more of this stuff without things completely exploding because because it put pressure on them.
00:26:30.820I don't normally go to these things. I don't like the constant protest because it's like you're yelling at empty buildings.
00:26:35.720There's nobody in there. They don't care. Right. You know, I've been arrested for protesting because it's when you're doing it effectively.
00:26:41.860If they want to arrest you, it's because you're having an impact. Right.
00:26:44.800they jammed up the whole city or at least the downtown core and you're irritating to live in
00:26:49.780hell out of the people that live there many of whom are very rich wealthy i mean you live in
00:26:52.720a downtown across who do you think lives near parliament hill you know jane and john citizen
00:26:57.900who have a you know sandwich shop or do you think it's like you know politically yeah right
00:27:02.580yeah exactly absolutely and uh and it was driving them you know crazy and there was nothing they
00:27:08.020could do about it if there was if it was illegal what people were doing uh well i guess you know
00:27:12.420the truck parking and so on but i mean they had to go all the way to the emergency act to clear
00:27:16.080this up to stop this and i believe they used me and my you know audience and fan club and so on
00:27:21.040as as like a casus belly is as like this is why i'm probably pronouncing that wrong but you know
00:27:26.060the reason for belly yeah right like this is this is why we have to do it because there's terrorists
00:27:31.040and they're going to overthrow the government and all this kind of stuff because everything i saw
00:27:34.360was oh there's arsonists well that never happened oh the truckers all have guns no they don't oh
00:27:39.760there's they're all raping people down there no they're not there is no evidence of food from the
00:27:43.580homeless man the homeless people gained weight i physically saw i i gave a guy a granola bar and0.55
00:27:50.640he threw it away he basically was like and he had a garbage bag full of food i was like well i can
00:27:57.080see you're taken care of my goodness you know i can't you know i was like my granola bar is like
00:28:01.140good enough for you and later i was hungry and i kept that as a snack it's like now i'm the homeless
00:28:04.660i saw you on with greg wycliffe who's coming on with us here uh right now this guy yeah i know
00:28:12.040right greg has got the show it's uh it's called controlled opposition i i saw you guys on it a
00:28:17.440couple of weeks ago and i really enjoyed the conversation first of all uh and i'm thinking
00:28:22.060okay what can we do politically in this country that is going to be of some substance that's going
00:28:27.400to wake these people up jeremy you pointed out that the convoy did in in fact have an impact on
00:28:32.240these clowns out there and provincially as well i mean while the convoy was taking place
00:28:37.200saskatchewan dropped their mandates alberta dropped their mandates i think ontario was next manitoba0.94
00:28:42.580happened after that but you're not convinced either one of you that pierre polyev is the
00:28:47.580answer greg you go first on this one please i was just thinking about this uh shadow good to see you
00:28:52.620by the way good to see you thanks for having me i was just thinking about this uh we love
00:28:58.560we love our hockey analogies in canada okay so the liberal team has been doing really well they've
00:29:04.440been crushing it since uh trudeau came into office and they have their agenda that they're trying to
00:29:09.440that they're trying to score on this with and who are they against they're not against the
00:29:12.520canadian people they're against the conservative party of canada and essentially what happened
00:29:16.300with the trucker convoy is um the conservatives were losing they weren't standing up for us
00:29:21.040when it comes to mandates they weren't standing up for us when it comes to a whole plethora of
00:29:24.600things but mostly the restrictions and the mandates they did not make a peep about it when
00:29:28.100it was important and then the trucker convoy was when the canadian people went onto the ice
00:29:33.020and said okay we're going to actually you know oppose this liberal party of canada and then we
00:29:39.140had them three weeks in you know they're short they're shorthanded it's five on three we have
00:29:43.800them right where they they want us and then of course the referee calls it calls off the entire
00:29:47.500game total nonsense and now that the trucker convoy is over essentially the conservative
00:29:53.880party is like hey guys no just just stay on the bench we got this yeah i know you guys came on
00:29:59.760to help with the sugar convoy but no just just stay on the bench we got this and it's like well
00:30:03.540you really you really did we were watching the game before the convoy before we were on the ice
00:30:07.780we were watching that game and you guys were useless out there okay there was no hustle and0.77
00:30:13.260as we brought up in the show they're not going into the corners these conservatives are not0.94
00:30:17.060going into the corners to uh too many passengers i i i saw some of them passing the puck to the
00:30:22.980liberal team on purpose it seemed like what was that about there's been it's a mess out there
00:30:29.060it's a mess out there so you guys are suggesting that even with pierre polyev as a new leader
00:30:34.780because i i think wasn't it the other what was his name the the bald-headed guy uh forget his
00:30:40.360name already dr evil ineffectual aaron o'toole was the leader of the conservators or maybe no
00:30:47.080it was uh the interim leader candace bergen that that was a boston cream donut with a suit on i
00:30:52.340I know a lot of people were fooled by that, but I saw right through it.
00:30:55.000I've eaten a lot of Boston cream donuts in my day, and I know one when I see one.
00:31:07.040Yeah, and so if not the conservatives, is it the PPC?
00:31:13.540Is there a political solution, Jeremy?
00:31:15.820so i i've come to the point like i've always kind of suspected this um again from you know
00:31:23.500learning from george carlin and you know other people like contemporary from their times like
00:31:27.700that would be you know political distance and it's always been the same kind of guys come to
00:31:31.100the same conclusions it's these are like franchises like hockey teams i've you know
00:31:34.540i like to use these metaphors just because it's easier like it's easier to just get to the point
00:31:38.560and you know any common anybody that doesn't even follow politics will be like oh that i get that
00:31:43.200that makes sense it's just you know a way to communicate but it's like um you can fire the
00:31:47.820you know get get a new goalie but it's like you still have the same team you know you need a
00:31:53.140whole new team and even then that if the problem isn't even the team a lot of the time it's the
00:31:57.920management of the team it's the owners of the team who don't give the people the tools they need to
00:32:03.500win they'd rather just concerned about making money and get what they want they don't really
00:32:06.860care that much are you referring to the bureaucrats or are you talking about the the party elite
00:32:10.780Well, mostly I'm venting about my frustration over being a lifelong Maple Leafs fan, but, you know, they go to these places, you know, they go to Davos and Bilderberg and all this stuff, and we've got cabinet members sitting on the boards of these things and coming back and implementing these agendas that are thought up by think tanks run by billionaires, no Canadian input whatsoever.
00:32:34.720Did we vote on mass migration? No. Did we vote on lockdowns? No. Did we vote on the needle campaign? No. Did we vote on kicking people out of school? None of this was ever, well, you voted for us and this is what we're doing. Yes, but you didn't tell us this is what you were going to do. It wasn't. There should be recall legislation in this country. You know, it's like, what if they voted Hitler in? You know what I mean? You don't get to just be in and they go, now that I'm sitting in the chair, I'm going to be done with all of you.
00:32:58.640i played a clip on my show the other night of the prime minister at the inquiry and he was basically
00:33:02.760saying um well you have the right to protest and say these kinds of things but you don't have the
00:33:07.940right to i basically i'm telling you how it's going to be like you can voice or disproval but
00:33:11.960at the end of the day i'm calling the shots here i i felt like that was uh the way that a parent or
00:33:16.400something would look down to their child and be like you're still grounded i mean you can be mad
00:33:19.840but you're grounded and you you know while you're living under my roof was kind of the attitude i
00:33:24.000was getting from this guy and that's backwards of how this is supposed to work you're supposed
00:33:27.560to be representatives of the nation and the nation is the people that live here it's not the dirt
00:33:32.500it's not the water it's the people the people and the and the ground they live on this is the
00:33:37.300country you are are supposed to be selected up from this pool of people as the spokesman of
00:33:43.980these people to then you know speak for our interests at home and abroad when in now we have
00:33:50.340these supposedly we have representatives that are not coming from the bottom up they're coming from
00:33:54.280the top down and they tell us they're spokesmen for these billionaires and they come and it's
00:33:59.460backwards they tell us how it's going to be uh from from their orders from the top down and we're
00:34:04.520supposed to just sit here and enjoy it and if we don't like it we can get trampled by horses and
00:34:08.680have our bank accounts taken away so it's party it's party politics is what you're talking about
00:34:12.800and that is these politicians are not listening to us they're listening to what the party elites
00:34:17.120are telling them to do voting how they say they're supposed to vote and whatnot is there a solution
00:34:21.480to that though i mean this is party politics if we're if we're dealing with independent
00:34:25.340representatives from 338 ridings in this country we're going to have a lot of confusion in that
00:34:30.620house man yeah i've been here yeah there is not an election there's not an election happening
00:34:37.600in the you know next week or the week after that if that was the case then maybe it would be a
00:34:43.300different conversation because there is an election on the horizon right now there is not an election
00:34:48.820um and if you look at the trucker convoy once again you know these are the people who stood up
00:34:55.140for me over the past three years it wasn't a conservative politician right shadow like i hate
00:34:59.720i hate i hate to you know be the bearer of bad news to your audience but it was not a conservative
00:35:04.300mp who stood up for us it was a truck driver it was a blue collar worker yeah so chris barber did
00:35:12.060more to advance the cause of protecting the individual rights and freedoms of the people
00:35:15.360country than anyone sitting in parliament hill has in the last five years and this movement
00:35:19.380raised more money than any political party does during a regular typical campaign and guess what
00:35:24.480that scared the heck out of the establishment as it should and and it really you know i got very
00:35:30.920very depressed after the trucker convoy because i saw all this support this this ground cell this
00:35:37.380ground swell seemingly of support behind pierre polyev and i thought guys you really think that
00:35:42.000the solution of this is is to support a career politician after everything that we went through
00:35:46.920you know and if you look at the trajectory of the conservative party year after year you'll see that
00:35:52.040they always kind of take where the national conversation is and then they kind of dial it
00:35:55.840back a little bit and say oh we're going to talk more about climate change we're going to talk more
00:35:59.700about rainbow flags actually because we're we're going to pander to people who probably hate us
00:36:03.600and aren't going to vote for us and they're still doing that strategy there's okay let me let me
00:36:08.420let me stop you both here for just a second and let's look at this realistically if we do have a
00:36:12.960political hope in this country it is going to have to be the conservative party and the reason for
00:36:18.060that is i'm sure you've seen recent polling i mean these guys are up at 37 or 38 percent trudeau's
00:36:23.560down at 28 ppc sitting at two right now now look i wish that it were different i wish that we had
00:36:29.660had more impact with the people's party and max i like max i think he's uh he's got a level head
00:36:35.380on his shoulders and i think that he's you know well he got arrested here in manitoba for goodness
00:36:39.220sakes a couple of years ago he stopped pulled over arrested by the rcmp here right for for
00:36:45.580speaking at a gathering of i think it was about 20 people which is ridiculous right so is there a way
00:36:54.080that we can get a guy like polyev maybe behind closed doors or something because we've seen
00:37:00.880what happens to a politician danielle smith in alberta we've seen what happens to a politician
00:37:07.980who who even utters the world word world economic forum all of a sudden she's premier nut job she is
00:37:14.800a freak she's a conspiracy theorist she's a tinfoil hat and there's that soft middle that we
00:37:20.780have in this country still even though there's more people waking up i'm seeing a a poll here
00:37:26.000today that says apparently 25 percent of canadians are conspiracy minded that's on true north today
00:37:31.640i'm not sure if you guys read that interesting they don't define what conspiracy minded is
00:37:35.900that's funny i i guess last right last night i said probably 25 percent of the people in this
00:37:40.500country are on our side and more so exactly right more so than that i mean i'm going to do the the
00:37:45.960story a little bit later on but if a politician speaks out like that he or she is going to be
00:37:51.080labeled and almost unelectable. So is there a way we can bring this topic up with that soft middle
00:37:58.460without being attacked so bad by the extreme Marxists on the other side that we get beaten
00:38:05.800down before we even have a chance? You explained who has the power in this situation. It's not the
00:38:16.020people, it's the media. So you're basically conceding the fact that the media runs this
00:38:20.800country and that's exactly no that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying is that the people
00:38:25.360are believing the media now polyev has gone around that villain and who is not but polyev
00:38:31.960has gone around that he's talked to some independent media and obviously max has done
00:38:36.120that as well he is they're both trying to skirt the uh you know the hill press gallery right those
00:38:42.84025 or so they need to be they need to just be ignored i i would go like this with the media
00:38:48.180like i we don't need you there is no reason for you we have social media now we have our own
00:38:53.260platforms if i'm a leader of an opposition party if i want to talk to the voters i can upload a
00:38:58.260video and that's all i need to do there is no need for any of this and to entertain them at all like
00:39:02.900this isn't the 40s people don't need newspaper like you can just you know there's there's no
00:39:06.860real need of it and the problem i think is not you know all the ppc only polled at two percent0.99
00:39:10.840the problem is canadians that are politically ignorant uh they're ignorant to a lot and they0.98
00:39:16.560just don't care i've been having frustrated if you oh did the vancouver canucks lose a hockey1.00
00:39:20.780game trash the city are the police killing people yawn you know that's our fault and the reason the0.99
00:39:27.260conservative party sucks and gets away with everything that it does you know wishy-washy0.99
00:39:31.340kind of because no one holds them accountable and that's our fault for letting them letting1.00
00:39:35.900them get away with this if we get the leadership we deserve if you let people get up with these you
00:39:39.920know feckless impotent goons that are you know basically boston cream donuts to say a bunch of0.58
00:39:44.500nonsense and no one really demands that this be improved why would they why would they change and0.68
00:39:49.780there's no reason so now they're just kind of adopting some talking points from the ppc to try
00:39:53.780and you know wash that over it's it's it's the easy button the hard work and this is always the
00:39:59.180right way in my experience from from a little kid to the army and beyond doing it the right way the
00:40:03.640way it needs to be done is always going to be tough it's going to be a lot of hard work and
00:40:07.000that's why nobody wants to do it they want the easy button i want my food to come right to my
00:40:10.980face on my couch i want to work from home in sweatpants i want to sleep in bed all day who
00:40:15.400doesn't but that's not how things work you know so the hard work is educating people bringing their
00:40:21.960bringing their heads and their and their hearts around to a point of valuing things like uh you
00:40:26.500know the the virtues and the values of this country like telling the truth sticking up for people that
00:40:31.100can't stick up for themselves protecting the charter protecting the bill of rights um not
00:40:36.280getting engaged in crazy wars because some rich guy said you know this all of this went out the
00:40:41.400window because that's just easier go along to get along you know it should be on the canadian flag
00:40:45.920it should be the my national motto don't rock the boat boys that's might as be what it should say
00:40:50.440and this is what you get as a consequence of you can do that for a little while
00:40:53.540but and and you can ignore your garden for a while but once the weeds start strangling your
00:40:58.760plants you'd better do something or it's you don't have a garden anymore so how do we do it though
00:41:03.640i mean i got the answer i got the answer this is the solution that we present this is the solution
00:41:10.040one of the solutions that we present on controlled opposition identifying the problem first and
00:41:15.060foremost and that is that the conservative party the official opposition in this country
00:41:19.360who do they fear they don't fear the people they fear the media they fear the media they fear
00:41:25.260getting called names and let's think about this media for a second week this media is rotten to
00:41:31.160the core you know we know that they are bought and paid for we know that they don't represent
00:41:35.900our values quite the opposite they are propagandists so how are they how are they even
00:41:40.700going to help us if they're beholden to the media and that's the goal the goal of pushing
00:41:45.360forth this conversation and promoting it and pushing and pushing and pushing is to get the
00:41:49.160conservative party to fear us to fear the people at the very least because you're right is the
00:41:53.980liberal party ever going to do that no they have they have their part of my language brainwashed
00:41:57.400horde that is going to be you know drooling into their drool cup and just saying yes sir yes i
00:42:01.740support ukraine like you know whatever comes up but holding this conservative party accountable
00:42:07.120is very very important and we and that's that's really another part of it we need to keep
00:42:12.520pushing shadow because jeremy brought up a great point pierre polyev is essentially stealing all
00:42:19.840of the popular talking points from maxine bernier rewind 2019 maxine bernier busts under the scene
00:42:25.840he has all these racist policies all these horrible evil they are the worst policies
00:42:30.020you could they could never fit in the overs and window of canada and now we have basically
00:42:33.980yeah that's right and now we have pierre polyev promoting those same ideas and now they're okay
00:42:39.960and that only happened because people were pushing people got fed up the trucker convoy happened and
00:42:45.540it's like whoa we got to start to like you know adopting these uh you know ppc talking points and
00:42:51.180then try to start to like dial them back and water it down that's kind of my theory of what they're
00:42:54.860doing but that's why it's so important for people like myself and jeremy mckenzie and anybody else
00:42:59.860who wants to take their stick their neck out randy hillier maxime bernier to keep pushing because if
00:43:04.680we don't push then who will push and the main thing like back to the right when you say when
00:43:10.360you say push what do you mean are we talking about going right at the the politicians the mps even
00:43:15.520get them in real life and push them onto railroad tracks with ropes that's what we need to do he's
00:43:20.380joking by the way just so you know it's about you have to say that in canada because no one
00:43:25.140understands sarcasm or nuance anymore i'm the i'm the youngest one here in this conversation and i
00:43:31.740bring that up because i look at it as as the long game you know is pierre polyev going to save the
00:43:37.700country if he gets elected i don't think so at all let's be honest folks every so many institutions
00:43:43.080in this country are rotten to the core and have failed us i mean just look at the past three years
00:43:48.000it wasn't just the political parties it wasn't just the media either the entire health um health
00:43:54.220care system oh everybody epic failure the court systems the education the police and and on and
00:44:02.080on and on and so the main point of pushing this conversation is a for first and foremost to get
00:44:08.840people disgusted get them feeling something something get them morally outraged because
00:44:13.120if you haven't noticed, these politicians try so hard to say, I don't like rage. I don't like it
00:44:18.500when you get upset. How dare you yell at politicians? It works. Yelling at politicians
00:44:23.100in public works. It's my whole career. It's my whole existence. You know, it's interesting
00:44:29.840when they tell you to go through the proper channels and you say, wait a minute, hold on,
00:44:34.440you control the proper channels. Exactly. I know exactly what's going to happen when you go through
00:44:39.240the proper channels guys do we have the time i mean we're talking about agenda 2030 they have
00:44:44.720accelerated their agenda you saw what was going on at the world economic forum last week um do we
00:44:50.660have the time to do the hard work jeremy that's a tough i don't know i honestly don't know i would
00:44:56.940say it's not good probably not but i mean if you've got a five i i say this i'm you know a lot
00:45:02.480as well is if you have a two percent chance of survival if you do this and if you do nothing
00:45:06.480it's zero what are you going to do well you're going to fight tooth and nail for that two percent
00:45:09.880because you have no other just accept that you're dead and it's over or fight like hell for the last
00:45:14.140hope that you have and that's that that's just where you're at and i'm of the opinion that these
00:45:19.320people again the culture has to change there are employees for god's sakes these they get elected
00:45:24.200they go up here and then they talk down to you like we put you there we put you there you take
00:45:29.320our tax money to pay yourself and then tell us what you're going to do because your boss said
00:45:34.860to. If your employees are underperforming
00:45:36.880and doing a terrible job, what do you do? You fire
00:46:00.840why it is, but they do. A lot of these
00:46:02.920groups and a lot of the forefront of the person
00:46:04.840personalities especially initially on uh dissident voices in the country were women
00:46:08.600and and you've got i mean things these are big boy problems it's like the country's being torn
00:46:14.700apart and what do you care about i'm in my man cave with a bunch of sports ball jerseys of other
00:46:19.480men's names on their back sometimes i wear them like i'm their property and uh you know we sit
00:46:23.740around we watch 17 year old kids play hockey and and you know that's childish nonsense and you
00:46:28.280should be ashamed of yourselves that women in the country are having to defend these kinds of things
00:46:32.680while you're sitting around playing games like a like a child um so so there's that problem
00:46:38.460you got to motivate these people to to do something and the representatives have to be
00:46:42.960held accountable and they're not it's it's just oh well yawn we'll just vote in the next guy we
00:46:47.880want to do the bare minimum Canada wants to do the bare minimum uh my dad always has been saying
00:46:51.820his whole life I want to vote someone in I'm tired of voting people out yeah we got to get
00:46:55.500this guy out we got to get Harper out we got to get Kretchen out we got to get Mo Rudy out we got
00:46:59.800can we vote someone in can we have we really believe in these people they need to be in
00:47:03.640charge and they need to because they actually represent us we vote with our dollars and we
00:47:07.380vote with our support and um that's what you need to take away from them take it away from them
00:47:12.200stop supporting them and then when they earn it back you can give it back to them but until they
00:47:16.240earn your support there's no reason to give them any do you guys believe in maxime bernier
00:47:19.860greg go first i think he represents i think he represents an alternative that is certainly a
00:47:27.440step in the right direction i think that he has been bold enough to put forth ideas about the
00:47:33.940canadian identity about canadian culture which was super controversial when he first started
00:47:38.600talking about it in 2019 but it is i mean yeah i i think that um i i think that he could be have
00:47:47.960a better war room i think he should give me a call uh in terms of you know upping his rhetoric
00:47:53.700and making it much more powerful um but i think that like it is so important that maxine bernier
00:48:00.060exists because if maxine bernier actually this is a great point of why continuing the conversation
00:48:04.600with controlled opposition is so important to inspire other canadians because if it wasn't
00:48:08.560for maxine bernier i would not be here right now okay i was inspired by this guy who had the nut0.98
00:48:13.880sack to be like screw you guys i'm starting my own thing because i think you're corrupt go f
00:48:18.580yourself and he started to make policies that made sense and he started a uh the fastest growing0.99
00:48:24.800canadian political party uh in history to my knowledge you know 40 000 members within a short
00:48:29.860amount of time and in many ways the trucker convoy was like a larger iteration of that
00:48:33.960where a lot of sleepy canadians were woken up by the ppc and then lockdowns trucker convoy a lot of
00:48:42.120can a lot more canadians were woken up by the trucker convoy and it's important for us to to
00:48:48.020keep pushing that conversation forward because you know we need to keep people off the couch
00:48:52.260that's the main thing we need to keep people off the couch yeah and and listen i i basically agree
00:48:58.840with what people say oh ppc is our best chance to get true yeah yeah of course because of the
00:49:03.300numbers but that doesn't mean we should just sit back and watch this watered down version of
00:49:08.420conservatism or accept the fact that there's so many things that this conservative party
00:49:13.240party refuses to talk about because guess what frankly i'm disgusted do do i have like a long
00:49:17.760term plan of this is the the play this you know this is the next step no but it's one of those
00:49:21.920things where it's like i'm just gonna have faith start talking about it get whoever i can on the
00:49:25.720show jeremy mckenzie get us talking about this get people excited and morally outraged about it
00:49:30.220and it's very similar to the convoy did they have a plan they were trying to do the impossible hey
00:49:35.480maybe if we all drive to ottawa they'll listen to us i mean what what a crazy what a crazy idea
00:49:42.020right i i really don't like the idea that people think like oh and again a very i don't want to
00:49:47.760say i'd say it's a typical canadian idea that represents the majority who are again lazy guys
00:49:53.360that want to watch tv and not do anything that they're like oh they can't even win anyway so
00:49:57.300why even try as if there has never been an upstart political party or group or faction
00:50:02.680ever in history that started with nothing just one guy and an idea and then actually made a
00:50:08.120substantial change that's never happened in history guys so don't even try that's a weak
00:50:12.360weak loser attitude and i don't like that and you need to change that okay so let me ask you guys
00:50:18.000this and i want to throw this out there to you both because this has been the ongoing question
00:50:22.420for the last couple of years i never thought it was going to get as far as people actually closing
00:50:27.700their businesses down a couple of years ago when i saw that happening on mass i went what's really
00:50:32.340going on here why are you guys buying into this nonsense since then i have been seeing people
00:50:37.160meekly stand up maybe saying a couple of things on their social media platform but i got into a
00:50:44.240conversation with somebody the other day who has been working feverishly to get some books some of
00:50:51.080these books you know i'm talking about here out of the library and out of the hands of kids who
00:50:57.400are six and seven years old they're sexualized books they have no place in a library like that
00:51:02.220especially anything that's publicly funded and they have been working with the school boards
00:51:07.580they have been yelling and screaming but when it comes to public they won't say pedophiles they
00:51:14.260will not say that word and i said why wouldn't you and they said because we don't like calling
00:51:19.640names we don't want to sink to their level no no seriously and then i said why not well we don't
00:51:26.840think that that's appropriate for the situation i said look at we're going to have to roll around
00:51:30.720in the mud with them i i've got a whole bag of names here of things i've been called by these
00:51:34.980people so if you guys want to try that's one log that's one log for every ist and ism behind you
00:51:41.840what i'm saying is is they're they're they're doing the work they are standing up for what
00:51:46.640they believe is right but yet they will not vilify the other side and call them what they actually
00:51:51.140are and what i said was you're not calling names you are actually stating a fact and that's
00:51:56.920different. So I think the really unique thing about that, you know, whatever you want to call
00:52:03.380it, supporters of the Freedom Convoy, supporters of the PPC, I can't speak for Jeremy, but I'll
00:52:08.480speak for myself. I did not want to get into politics at all. That was not that was not the
00:52:13.680plan. Okay. And when I was at the PPC conference with a bunch of people, we had a very similar
00:52:19.100sort of attitude, which is I don't know what I'm doing here. But I just kind of felt this calling
00:52:23.140of I need to try and help the future of my country. And as that's continued, I would say
00:52:27.780the same thing happened with the trucker convoy as well. A lot of people who have never joined
00:52:30.620politics, don't know anything about it are joining in. And it's a beautiful thing. And it's also a
00:52:36.360very sad thing. It's a beautiful thing because it's some of the best Canadians you will ever
00:52:40.580meet in your life. And they have amazing heart, like their hearts are in the right place. Like
00:52:44.900this is really the beating heart of this country. And you saw it everywhere at the trucker convoy.
00:52:48.860and these people are trying to get involved in politics that that's the beautiful thing the sad
00:52:53.860thing is boy are we naive to how ugly and disgusting the world of politics is and you
00:53:01.080and you nailed it right there we have to roll in the mud unfortunately unfortunately we do
00:53:06.420and to give people an idea um we are you know canadians are kind of sleep they're you know
00:53:14.420they're apathetic we are we have been hypnotized by what i like to call the liberal moral framework
00:53:20.040of things and in the liberal moral framework of things jeremy mckenzie is the most evil worst0.98
00:53:26.080person that's ever existed he's a racism he's a this he makes jokes that people don't like you0.92
00:53:30.800know he's all these the trove the the ish the ism he's all those things and in reality i say no0.67
00:53:36.620i don't think i don't think making a joke about something is the worst possible thing i don't0.94
00:53:40.760care if you think me or my friend jeremy is racist okay you're abusing children yeah you're0.93
00:53:46.900you're screwing our future over you are doing so many things yeah you're supporting war criminals0.91
00:53:52.460and genocidal regimes oh did you not like the mouth sounds a man made you sent a billion dollars
00:53:58.220to a psychopath so i don't know we're gonna do moral grandstanding i think i'd pack that and
00:54:03.500leave that at home um something something you said shadow earlier was is you know people people
00:54:09.700there's a lot of people that want to stand up and want to do something but they you know they
00:54:13.400don't want to not everyone is is built or made to be like like a like a leader figure those people
00:54:19.840exist out there and they need to be found identified empowered and supported and those
00:54:24.940people will draw in others that they can get behind that's just how people operate not everybody is
00:54:29.000going to be you know the chief of the tribe but you find these people that can be and whatever
00:54:32.760size or way that they are and they need to be supported and empowered and then they can gather
00:54:36.600strength that way and have a whole, I mean, I've had the amount of support I've gotten over the
00:54:40.960last, you know, few days is insane. And I didn't ask for any of it. It just came to me, right. And
00:54:45.480this is keeping me alive. This keeps me going. I can continue to, you know, go on to the next battle
00:54:49.280and keep going because of that. There could be a thousand other people like me waiting out there
00:54:53.400somewhere and they just need help and they need encouragement. So that's what you're, when you're
00:54:56.920motivating people, that's who you're speaking to. It's not, you know, everyone else that, yeah,
00:55:00.560everyone should do what they can and chip in, but there are people out there that could be,
00:55:04.260You never know what they're going to turn into or what they could be.
00:55:06.960And they just need that, maybe that push or encouragement to get out there and give it a shot.
00:55:10.920And, hey, you know, next thing you know, you might have, you know, a great team of people that are going to make a difference.
00:55:16.220What do you say to somebody who has, for the last two or three years, been vilified by their family, by their friends, called a conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hat?
00:55:24.760They're so isolated and so terribly depressed in this situation that they haven't been able to escape.
00:55:31.200Is there something we can say or do to encourage?
00:55:33.080yeah it's gonna sound is it in.com and it's gonna show you tune in to the uh to the ragecast
00:55:38.600three times a week it's it's gonna sound harsh um but get a new family yeah i mean i mean like
00:55:45.440if you can't i mean the amount of stories like this i've heard it's like people have gotten
00:55:49.980divorced their children don't talk to their parents i mean your family your your your own
00:55:55.020flesh and blood your family these are people that are supposed to love you and protect you
00:55:57.820and support you no matter what and always have your back and i was blessed with that i grew up
00:56:01.780with that and i still retain that and i have the undying support of my my family which is
00:56:06.280probably a big reason why why i'm still here i can't imagine living without that for them to
00:56:10.540just throw you away because tv said you're a bad person is insane that is crazy you're not the bad
00:56:17.540person they are terrible family members terrible friends equipment whatever it is for to say well0.99
00:56:22.620you're you're the because i saw it on rachel maddow how dare you you probably vote for the
00:56:28.580orange man don't you you're my uncle i don't care like what is happening so you've got the media
00:56:35.340literally dividing families against each other which is i mean this is a precursor to civil war
00:56:40.240guys this is how it happens like it doesn't happen overnight it's a slow burn and then eventually it
00:56:45.140pops like the like the convoy people just get to a point where this is what happens so i don't have
00:56:50.080any time for these media they don't want to talk about divisiveness and keeping people together
00:56:53.780don't invite your family over for thanksgiving well that seems a little divisive
00:56:58.180literally dividing your family along a political line uh that's their decision to make they don't
00:57:03.800need your input no one asked your opinion cbc don't tell me how to manage my household
00:57:08.360so when we talk about i'm sorry go ahead greg this is the same tv news media by the way ripping
00:57:14.000apart our families this is the same tv news media that is that this the conservative party is
00:57:20.300beholden to you know and this and this is the issue like the conservative party is letting
00:57:25.340global news dictate their morality global news yeah it's it's uh it's terrifying and i'd like
00:57:35.140to bring up this this up as an example i don't know if you can you guys see that i mean part of
00:57:39.500it here it's more than one support jail time yeah yeah okay that's an oldie but a goodie right
00:57:44.500yeah this is how crazy it was please tell me that's not new no no that's from a year ago
00:57:49.940So that's from January 19th, almost to the day, January 19th, 2022, more than one in four Canadians support jail time for the for the unjabbed. Very nice. But that's just an example of how crazy it was last year, how insane the division was. And yet the news media obviously was not on our side.0.99
00:58:10.480and the conservative party was not standing up to them and um i think it really comes back to that
00:58:15.620getting the conservative party to fear the people and not be beholden to the media who is completely
00:58:20.260let's face it completely immoral you know like they are not which is why i will never support
00:58:26.200them like i said until you earn my risk you're not entitled to my vote this is another thing i
00:58:30.040really can't stand about entitled lazy no offense boomer attitudes with the conservative party base
00:58:36.020where it's like, well, you've done it for us.
00:58:38.060You get the libs out, and then we would have had it.
00:58:40.480I was never going to vote for the Conservative Party.
00:58:42.400If there was no PPC, I wouldn't have voted at all.
00:58:44.340That idea, that sentiment is shared by 90% of, at least,
00:59:04.020to we have to accept uh you know all ages drag shows for five-year-olds is that picture with
00:59:08.340the guy with the microphone up to the kid's face you know simulating or ridiculous where is this
00:59:13.000where's the no if we have to accept this to win and it's like yay we won did you bring the country
00:59:18.480with you no it died in the process yeah well you know i did i did see you i did see the tweet from
00:59:24.380michelle remple the other day and i was disgusted by that i think i saw you guys talking about that
00:59:28.360as well it's a sad thing however if we don't get trudeau out this is just going to be on a faster
00:59:34.840track and what i have been saying for the last whatever is at least maybe with a conservative
00:59:42.540government in there we could slow this down enough to the point where we can reverse it before we can
00:59:48.380stop this thing we have to slow it down turn it around and get it going back the other way
00:59:52.800and trudeau with trudeau in there guys you know what's going to happen it's going to keep going
00:59:56.480If the election was tomorrow, I would tend to possibly agree with you, depending on who my local PPC or, you know, CPC candidate was, you know, but the election is not tomorrow.
01:00:08.520There is no election that's currently, you know, on the horizon.
01:00:11.540And like I said, you know, I'm looking at the future and it's like Jeremy was saying earlier, it's not just about getting another politician in there or getting, you know, switching out Coca-Cola for Pepsi.
01:00:23.620You know, the sugar water is terrible for us.
01:00:25.540okay and we need to not san pal we love the san palgrino um sponsor us today uh i'll receive
01:00:34.380the funds because jeremy obviously anyway uh no bank he is bankless bankless uh this man has no
01:00:45.700bank um a bankless man can you believe such a thing not bad at all
01:00:52.900but uh yeah the sugar water is bad for us and we need to uh it's important to push this
01:01:02.140conversation forward because like i said what scares me shadow is just people saying oh you
01:01:06.880know what this is an analogy i've had in the past canadians treat voting they treat elections
01:01:13.320like the thermostat oh can i go okay and then walk away like that that's about yeah that's
01:01:21.100the amount of investment there needs to be generational thinking which we've lost we used
01:01:25.520to make decisions based on how is this going to look 20 years from now how is this going to affect
01:01:28.940my children is this in because that's if you're not ahead 25 years from now for a decision you
01:01:33.620make today then you're behind you made a bad decision it might be good for you now but
01:01:37.560eventually it'll be 25 years from now and you're like i'm in much worse off position well that was
01:01:41.460a mistake and uh and we're not doing that now and then and there's what is the percentage of
01:01:45.640people in this country that don't vote 45 oh yeah all of these people like if we had just there is
01:01:51.900almost half the country doesn't even feel the need to get involved because they just don't care
01:01:56.100you're not inspiring these people to get off the couch and help so you you think you're entitled
01:02:00.860to the votes of all these people by by pandering to the left and current things supporting and
01:02:06.120you know they're weak the conservative party is weak there is no real true leaders in there that
01:02:11.860inspires any kind of like when's the last time you saw one of those people get up and make a
01:02:15.720speech that made you really your heart well up with pride and go i am going to get i'm going to
01:02:19.820go to that website right now and i'm going to i'm going to cancel whatever i had going on this
01:02:23.580weekend because it's time to be it's all rehearsed and packaged and polished there's no genuine
01:02:29.300sincerity to any of it everything they say everything they do it's focus group then it's
01:02:34.860tested and it's workshop then it's blah blah blah blah we just have to win winning has become the
01:02:40.060only thing that matters and in the process the soul the heart of the country has been thrown out
01:02:44.280with the bath it doesn't matter they just just win so it's like well we know they're communists but0.51
01:02:49.800we'll give it to you slower we're only socialists we're slow communists like oh okay well you know
01:02:57.140and the best talking points from pierre polyev has been either stolen from maxine bernier or
01:03:02.860stolen from the man right here jeremy mckenzie he's even doing the walk and talk videos like
01:03:07.000jeremy does yeah and he's doing an okay job but again it's like you know you were talking about
01:03:11.220the swelling up with pride and i i feel that when i when i listen to jeremy i feel that when i listen
01:03:15.120to other you know lesser known content creators but they're still out there speaking from the heart
01:03:19.200and uh one one final thing a phrase that we use on controlled opposition is it's okay to demand
01:03:27.480higher standards that's something jeremy's yes thank you that that was jeremy's quote that was
01:03:32.520on me now you're everybody's just stealing away take it all i believe these are yours greg take
01:03:39.500these we gotta leave it on high note guys that that was the perfect ending perfect it's been
01:03:46.840an absolute pleasure having you both on thank you for joining the show today jeremy mckenzie
01:03:50.780and greg wycliffe greg how do we find controlled opposition where is your channels located it's
01:03:56.080streaming on facebook and youtube so if you go to facebook.com slash greg wycliffe you'll see
01:04:02.160it's streaming on thursday evening 8 p.m eastern standard time and if you go to youtube you can
01:04:07.540just search my name greg wycliffe you'll find my channel there and again it's streaming same time
01:04:11.2008 p.m eastern central time uh sorry eastern standard time sorry uh but uh yeah thanks for
01:04:17.160having me on shadow it's been a pleasure all right brother we'll do it again and jeremy how do we find
01:04:20.860raging dissident well never in a oops i got rid of the wrong guy oh is he is he gone for good oh
01:04:29.780no he got kicked up click the link again oh no go to go to rage this is why you need a producer
01:04:39.500oh wait wait wait there he is there you back okay what did i say
01:04:43.360i'm sorry no bank no bankless guests allowed no bankless men allowed
01:04:52.020well you won't find me in a bank that's where you definitely won't see me anywhere in this country
01:04:57.380uh raging dissident.com is my website all my social media uh contacts and links and stuff
01:05:02.140are there and and i am a terrorist and i terrorize people to their death uh three times a week
01:05:07.260normally um through my podcast which you can find on you know spotify podbean all kinds of places
01:05:13.120and you know whatever youtube channel it is i go through a youtube channel a month pretty much at
01:05:17.280this point so the website is the best uh the best plot ragingdistant.com thank you brother i'll talk
01:05:22.260you again right there i'm glad greg's gone i'm not a bastard
01:05:26.580guys i think that's the most fun hour i have had in the last year talking to those two guys
01:05:36.600greg wycliffe jeremy mckenzie here on the shadow at night live stream uh jamie soleil joins the
01:05:45.480show tomorrow night yes that's right legendary gold medal olympic champion in figure skating
01:05:53.480pairs figure skating jamie soleil is on the show tomorrow night jamie is part of the canadians
01:05:59.640for truth network and you can look that up online canadiansfortruth.ca interesting i i you know i
01:06:08.280want to hear her story how she got to where she is today when she first woke up uh i i talked to
01:06:14.320briefly today and it's going to be a great pleasure to have her on the show tomorrow night
01:06:18.580and theo flurry is going to join the show next week just like i said earlier this week you guys
01:06:24.700so i'm trying to deliver the best content to you as i possibly can and again jeremy mckenzie and
01:06:30.180greg wycliffe on the show tonight thank you boys for coming on the show and having that passionate
01:06:35.040conversation this is the poll that i was talking about earlier tonight guys uh and don't forget to
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01:07:08.360rebels coverage of his debanking story um i probably should have come to you earlier i'll
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01:07:50.700all right let's get into this story here from tnc.news federal government claims nearly a
01:07:55.520quarter of Canadians exhibit conspiracy thinking. This is an interesting story, you guys, a poll
01:08:03.820conducted by the Privy Council office. This is not a poll done by Nanos or Leger. This is the Privy
01:08:10.920Council office. This essentially is the office that runs the country. So why are they doing
01:08:17.880polls like this? This poll conducted claims that nearly a quarter of Canadians exhibited high levels
01:08:24.740of conspiratorial thinking high levels of conspiratorial thinking i wonder what their
01:08:33.440definition of conspiratorial is the survey also said only 42 percent of canadians trusted
01:08:39.320federal institutions to be truthful i think that number might be high but it's still a good one
01:08:46.180for us because the less trust federal or provincial institutions have for that matter
01:08:52.320will go a long way in making our point.
01:08:55.880In other words, if you make rational, well-thought-out decisions,
01:09:01.260chances are good that the majority of the public will follow them.
01:09:07.040But if you make choices that divide families,
01:09:11.260if you make choices that cause bankruptcies,
01:09:14.260if you make choices that cause death in any number of ways,
01:09:18.340then people are probably going to lose faith in you
01:09:48.040if these colleges continue to keep making bad decisions they will have to reap the whirlwind
01:09:55.080and that is complete lack of respect and disregard from the people of this country
01:10:01.320so i'm surprised that 42 percent of canadians still trust any federal institution to be truthful
01:10:08.260well the remainder had doubts about the information related to them by ottawa
01:10:12.700The remainder had doubts. So you have doubts, but you still kind of trust them. And 42% say, well, okay. 58% of the people in this country, apparently, according to this poll, do not trust the federal government and probably trust their provincial government less.
01:10:31.400most canadians place their trust in social media close friends relatives over the government
01:10:38.620over the government as first reported by black locks reporter an internal survey titled
01:10:45.940misinformation and disinformation asked audiences a number of questions related to the topics first
01:10:50.740of all these these two expressions misinformation and disinformation ridiculous there's lies and
01:10:56.580there's truth that's what it is it's you're lying or you're telling the truth and that goes for
01:11:03.520everybody media included politicians definitely included statistics show that 35 percent of
01:11:10.300respondents were high social media trusting well 23 percent were found to be non-trusting
01:11:15.560altogether and exhibit relatively high conspiratorial thinking according to government
01:11:20.200researchers. Don't worry, guys, I'm not playing that clip. We're not going to do any of Trudeau
01:11:27.380tonight. No Trudeau. It's a Trudeau free zone tonight. Analysts told the government that
01:11:31.840overregulation would not fix the problem. Relying solely on traditional top-down approaches to aim
01:11:36.840to regulate content are insufficient at limiting the immediate dangers of misinformation. Well,
01:11:41.940this is good news, actually. If they say relying solely on traditional top-down approaches that
01:11:48.140aim to regulate content are insufficient over regulation will not fix the problem then maybe
01:11:53.040the government will go ahead and rethink bill c11 doubtful but maybe doubtful highly doubtful
01:12:02.500but who knows if we put enough pressure on them you see this is what jeremy and greg were talking
01:12:08.400about earlier you know we are the ones who can put pressure on elected officials the only reason
01:12:15.160they're going to listen to us guys it's not because they believe that we're right but it's
01:12:20.080about their jobs it's about being kicked out of office in the next election they don't want to
01:12:28.720piss people off the majority of people and they think if a thousand two thousand three thousand
01:12:33.680people not just from the entire movement but from their riding come to their office like happened
01:12:39.760in vancouver earlier this week in the move to uh get david eby eby the premier in british
01:12:46.040columbia recalled if enough people from that writing turn up they will be petrified
01:12:50.680because it's it's not such a huge nebulous thing anymore as much as it is hey man this is my
01:12:59.460writing i might lose my seat if i don't smarten up so they will take that to the party elite
01:13:04.080and say this is what's happening and if it's happening all across the country perhaps the
01:13:08.760party elite needs to rethink. Guys, I don't like the system, but we still can affect it.
01:13:18.300Innovative policymaking tools such as behavioral science can help provide immediate and long-term
01:13:23.740solutions to misinformation. So what are they going to do to us then? They're going to
01:13:28.500re-educate us, just like they're trying to do to Jordan Peterson? The Privy Council Commission
01:13:33.700Impact Canada conduct the research, which included 1,872 Canadians. There have been several
01:13:39.720recent high-profile cases of government officials or bodies spreading misinformation to Canadians.
01:13:45.900Listen to this one. On Tuesday, Environment Minister Stephen Kilbeau convicted, I'm not
01:13:53.580going to say terrorist here, because that would be misinformation. What was he convicted of?
01:13:57.600Well, anyway, he's a convict. He's a former convict. Yes. Yes. He does have a record,
01:14:01.920ladies and gentlemen. Environment Minister Stephen Gilbeau was forced to delete a tweet
01:14:06.200after claiming the California Lunar New Year shooting was an Asian, anti-Asian racist attack,
01:14:12.220despite the fact the shooter himself was of Asian descent. Sadly, hatred towards Asian people
01:14:17.720overshadowed the celebrations, and this barbaric act is proof that we must remain vigilant against
01:14:23.160racism, hoping that the victims and families will be courageous in this time of grief.
01:14:27.340so it's all about capitalizing politically it's not about really feeling bad for the families
01:14:34.300right steven crown corporation cbc has also been cited on numerous occasions in recent months for
01:14:41.260misleading canadians the most recent incident occurred when the state broadcaster saskatchewan
01:14:45.860arm reported a misleading story about a catholic church fund for residential school victims guys
01:14:51.040i'm gonna leave it at that tonight because it's already quarter after nine and i gotta go to the
01:14:55.200i gotta go to the store and pick up a couple of things uh including cream for my coffee and coffee
01:15:00.260for the morning so that's it and it's already quarter after nine don't forget it's quarter
01:15:05.400after nine it's getting late quarter after nine central quarter after 10 eastern quarter after 11
01:15:11.320atlantic and then quarter to 12 in newfoundland so i understand you guys are sleepy and you got
01:15:17.820to go to bed i know it's early out west but i hope you enjoyed the show tonight with jeremy
01:15:22.960mackenzie the raging dissident and uh with greg wycliffe both of those guys have fantastic shows
01:15:28.500fantastic content and you can go and find them and watch it for yourself and we'll have to get
01:15:33.100them back again very soon i'm going to be on a round table with wayne peters uh tomorrow night
01:15:38.300at six o'clock i believe it is with what's up canada and then back with jamie soleil tomorrow
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