The Shadoe Davis Show - December 28, 2023


Shadoe at Nite Weds Dec. 27th⧸2023


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00:01:30.000 hey everybody welcome to the show how are you doing it's shadow at night
00:01:48.500 it is wednesday december the 27th 2023 a huge round table show lined up for you tonight odessa
00:01:58.260 orlowitz is joining the show leighton gray ray mckinnis dan knight jason levine uh who else did
00:02:04.440 i forget wayne peters of what's up canada we've got all kinds of people waiting behind the scenes
00:02:09.860 to join the show tonight we're hoping to hear from theo fleury and jamie soleil of canadians
00:02:14.140 for truth greg wycliffe and rob primo could be joining the show later on tonight i'm thinking
00:02:20.300 maybe randy hillier at some point will be joining the show chris barber pat king and tamara leach
00:02:26.880 have all been asked and at some point tonight they will be popping on hopefully we'll keep
00:02:33.960 our fingers crossed but we've got a very very very strong round table to open the show tonight
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00:04:07.520 our guests tonight who's our first one here's wayne peters you guys are used to seeing wayne
00:04:11.840 on the show here from what's up canada and lgm.news wayne thank you for coming on tonight
00:04:17.880 happy holidays my friend
00:04:19.920 Merry Christmas and all of that
00:04:21.460 this is going to be a very interesting
00:04:23.920 show tonight here's Jason Levine from
00:04:25.920 the Levine show he's been on
00:04:27.940 the show a few times you guys know
00:04:29.900 Jason and Jason has been pumping this
00:04:31.960 one very hard today hello
00:04:33.940 Leighton Gray of the Gray Matter
00:04:35.780 podcast thank you for joining the show
00:04:38.000 tonight here's Odessa Orlowitz
00:04:40.080 of Liberty.com Liberty Canada
00:04:41.980 Liberty Social
00:04:42.820 we have been meaning Odessa
00:04:45.940 to get you on the show for quite some time
00:04:47.860 So thank you for joining the roundtable discussion tonight.
00:04:50.640 Here's Ray McInnes.
00:04:51.580 Ray is an author.
00:04:54.100 What's the book again?
00:04:54.980 It's about 9-11, isn't it, Ray?
00:04:56.340 Yeah, well, yeah.
00:04:57.140 My earlier book two years ago came out the 20th anniversary of the attacks.
00:05:01.240 It's called Unanswered Questions, What the September 11th Families Asked and the 9-11 Commission Ignored,
00:05:08.720 simply following the chronicle of the stories of the 12 family members that made up the Family Steering Committee,
00:05:15.540 representing tens of thousands of families that then pursued and finally arm twisted the government
00:05:21.500 at the time to actually have an investigation which they were not planning to have and then
00:05:26.020 they monitored uh the whole 9-11 commission and gave them over a thousand questions to ask which
00:05:31.900 nine percent were asked seriously and 70 percent ignored entirely anyway and and those people
00:05:37.580 those 12 people the majority voted for president george w bush it wasn't like democrats out to get
00:05:42.820 the president but anyway it's a story that's uh interesting about uh about how how commissions can
00:05:49.900 be a cover-up so so now now i have you know uh because thanks to the emergencies act especially
00:05:56.820 being being being invoked i uh ended up writing a book uh which is now in copy edit uh stage
00:06:05.480 called unjustified just uh the emergencies act and the inquiry that got it wrong so that'll be
00:06:11.660 out probably this spring.
00:06:14.420 I hope to see that.
00:06:15.640 We're getting an echo here. I'm not sure who it
00:06:17.580 is, but if
00:06:19.680 we could figure that out, that
00:06:21.560 would be pretty awesome. Here's Dan Knight, an
00:06:23.560 independent journalist out of
00:06:25.660 Vancouver with a very large
00:06:27.800 following on X. Chris
00:06:29.500 Dacey has been on the ground
00:06:31.440 reporting for the last few years now
00:06:33.720 in Ottawa. Chris,
00:06:35.460 thank you for coming on. I've been meaning to get you
00:06:37.520 on the show as well, one-on-one. I'm happy
00:06:39.500 you've decided to join our panel tonight. This is
00:06:41.580 going to be awesome thank you all for coming on the show tonight again you guys watching right
00:06:48.280 now don't forget to like and share let's get this out there to as many people as we possibly can
00:06:52.560 it's important uh before we get into what's in store for 24 and i think all of us have our own
00:07:00.700 ideas as to what may yet come let me ask you guys and this is going to be a true round table
00:07:07.520 discussion anybody who feels like talking go ahead and and open your mouth first and all i'm
00:07:12.540 going to be here is a traffic cop uh let's start with you odessa what was the most positive thing
00:07:19.060 in your mind that happened in 2023 before we do that if everybody mutes then we won't have the
00:07:27.060 echo problem but i know you know that shadow that's great i i was just kind of hoping we
00:07:34.820 can track that down i think it's wayne personally but i don't know it's like playing a game of clue
00:07:39.720 here i think it's wayne um wayne peters in the dining room with a candlestick anyway this group
00:07:46.560 looks more like hollywood square shot open so i spent one more in the middle i spent all this
00:07:51.860 time thinking about 2024 and now you're asking me the best thing that happened in 2023 yeah sure
00:07:57.240 That it wasn't 2024. And it was that sort of lull of kind of normalcy. Besides looking at the antics of Trudeau, you know, we somewhat had our freedoms. And it was a nice sort of time to travel, be normal.
00:08:16.580 um i have to say yeah the best part was that the worst part was all the people that uh are
00:08:23.880 continuing to get blood clots and all that but we won't go there because you want to keep this
00:08:27.220 on facebook but the best thing was that it was somewhat normal well you know what we could all
00:08:32.620 go back even a little bit further to 2022 after the convoy uh was broken up by the emergencies act
00:08:41.040 and the police thuggery that happened in the streets of ottawa chris i know you were there
00:08:45.100 filming a lot of that stuff do you think even though the convoy really helped globally i think
00:08:53.140 that was a very big turning point in a lot of people globally waking up but did it somehow
00:09:00.000 shatter uh or or at least wound the freedom movement or splinter the freedom movement here
00:09:07.560 in Canada are you asking me um yes yeah I mean there's been a lot of things that have splintered
00:09:17.100 splintered over time I suppose um it's hard to even discuss this as as freedom movement at this
00:09:23.300 point I think um the convoy brought us all together and after the way we were taken out and
00:09:28.720 and I mean there was a lot of nastiness that followed that um it was a pretty pretty bleak
00:09:33.800 time in ottawa then and i mean it still is now for uh for someone who's stuck in it like me it's
00:09:37.900 kind of uh it's kind of been a situation where we had a lot of support a lot of people trying to
00:09:42.080 help and slowly people are kind of dropping out and like like uh odessa said you know people kind
00:09:47.000 of went back to normalcy this year um for me it was very different i watched a lot of things going
00:09:52.060 on at ottawa a lot of the same problems continuing and a lot of people that kind of splintered off
00:09:56.860 and i mean some for all kinds of different reasons right different groups are trying to do things
00:10:00.120 different ways but also there was a lot of people that had to get back to life had to deal with
00:10:03.780 things so i mean it's it's kind of evolved numerous times for me um but i'm kind of in a vacuum here
00:10:09.800 so so maybe i have a different perspective than some of the others but uh i've seen a lot of
00:10:13.900 groups groups fall off the map i've seen infighting i've seen i've also seen some good come out of it
00:10:18.360 and some really good connections so there's both sides to that i guess do you think that maybe
00:10:22.860 people are trying to rekindle or recapture the feeling that we got from that freedom convoy and
00:10:27.980 And I'm referring specifically to what wound up being known as the non-voy that happened a few months ago.
00:10:34.820 I think it was led by Freedom George and Ron Clark.
00:10:37.980 And I do not want to disparage either one of those two because I know their hearts are absolutely in this.
00:10:44.440 But I think that, you know, that one video that came out, I forget who it was.
00:10:51.340 It just looked like a fight was breaking out where the camp was.
00:10:55.540 And it was a sad sight to see.
00:10:57.980 And when we have negative things like that happen within the freedom movement in Canada, I think it deflates a whole bunch of people.
00:11:04.180 What are your thoughts?
00:11:04.800 Yeah, I was there for that incident, actually, and when those people came out.
00:11:08.880 So one of the other people that was quite involved with that was Norman Blanchfield, who's actually on trial right now in Ottawa for stuff that stemmed from Rolling Thunder.
00:11:17.020 So I was around a lot.
00:11:18.140 I know Norm quite well, and I've gotten to know George and some of those guys quite well.
00:11:21.700 And, I mean, I think the intention was very good.
00:11:23.500 I don't have anything bad to say about any of those people personally.
00:11:26.000 but um like that was like a an extreme exaggerated example of some of what goes on so you know you
00:11:31.700 have a group that's trying to do something and then there was a couple of people that came in
00:11:34.560 and uh and it went south pretty quick for anyone that saw that video it was it was a wild scene
00:11:38.960 um i don't think that was indicative of what was really going on as the greater thing going on but
00:11:44.500 like you said like uh trying to capture that moment a lot of people have been trying to do
00:11:48.360 that over two years now and in my opinion i don't think anyone has managed to and i don't think it's
00:11:53.080 something that we can capture and recreate again. I think it's something we can remember and build
00:11:58.560 off of. But I think the approach of trying to do something like that, I don't think it's
00:12:02.300 logistically possible. I don't think the same type of conditions exist now that existed then to cause
00:12:07.540 it. So, I mean, there is positive and negative from that, but I don't think we can recreate what
00:12:12.060 happened. Unless, of course, something crazy happens in 2024, and we're going to get to that.
00:12:16.740 Leighton Gray is the host of the Gray Matter podcast.
00:12:21.020 Leighton, you've also been working on numerous cases for people who have been wronged by the government overreach over the past few years.
00:12:29.720 How do you see or how have you seen things rolling out since the convoy?
00:12:33.860 Are you seeing more people come to you with actual cases or is it starting to slow down now?
00:12:41.740 Well, actually, and you and I talked about this when I was on your show recently, Shadow,
00:12:45.340 that um or maybe it was when you were on my show uh that uh i'm optimistic i think that the 0.65
00:12:51.860 communist takeover of the entire world which is really uh a takeover by evil spirits uh was what
00:12:59.200 we saw uh you know continuing in 2023 but i see it starting to weaken and slow down as more people
00:13:05.800 awaken and uh you know i remember their personal power um the general public i think will continue
00:13:12.160 to grow, you know, their distrust of medicine, science, government, mainstream media, and
00:13:18.620 all the other related parties who colluded to destroy the public where they stood over
00:13:25.080 the past four years.
00:13:26.640 And I think it has to get worse before it gets better, because the worse it gets, the
00:13:31.760 more obvious it becomes.
00:13:33.000 But I think the thing that we're going to see in 2024 is that people will start to realize,
00:13:37.700 you know, that sitting on the couch, sitting on the fence, watching TV and doing nothing,
00:13:42.160 Just isn't an option anymore. Millions more people in 2024, I predict, will take action against their corrupt governments.
00:13:49.880 We're seeing this, for example, what's happening in Argentina. We're seeing the election of different governments in places like Holland.
00:13:57.840 And we are indeed having victories. And, you know, with every obviously satanic implementation of a policy by our corrupt governments and their and their personal advertising wing,
00:14:08.980 which I call the lamestream media
00:14:12.220 they destroy themselves by their own hand
00:14:15.040 and by giving the public greater and greater reasons
00:14:17.160 to take action against them
00:14:18.960 so I think that freedom will reign supreme once again
00:14:22.260 in the next five years or so
00:14:23.640 but we've got to do everything we can in 2024
00:14:26.420 to become as independent as possible
00:14:28.340 and I think that's really key
00:14:31.120 because it's important to remember
00:14:32.480 and I don't want to frighten anybody listening to this
00:14:34.440 Justin Trudeau could actually sit
00:14:37.020 you know like horton on the egg uh until uh october of 2026 he has actually a five-year
00:14:43.740 mandate that uh has nearly three more years left and i think the more people wake up and apply
00:14:49.520 pressure one great example we saw recently was this wonderful petition that circulated got near
00:14:54.340 nearly 400 000 signatures i think we've got to apply that kind of pressure because they're not
00:15:00.080 going to stop the evil the latest one is of course universal basic income which is catastrophic on
00:15:04.960 many different levels. But I think that 2024 is going to see this increasing trend that we saw
00:15:11.960 in 2022, starting with the convoy and 2023, where more and more people are awakened to the reality
00:15:17.780 that this government is not working for us, that it's working against us. Well, you know, we are
00:15:22.040 seeing, as you point out, the evil Marxist corporate media is almost dead. I think that
00:15:28.420 The latest poll shows 42% or 43% of Canadians do not trust the left-wing corporate media.
00:15:35.200 That poll is already six months old.
00:15:36.920 I think when they do another one, it's going to be even a higher number.
00:15:40.520 And that's why we've got more and more independent media, more and more independent journalists coming on board.
00:15:46.120 Wayne, you've been doing this for a while now with What's Up Canada and with LGM.news.
00:15:52.040 How have you seen this unfolding for the past couple of years?
00:15:55.660 And you've got to unmute yourself, my friend.
00:15:57.320 I think the victories and the best part of 2023 were the ripple effects of 2022. Without the convoy in 2022, we wouldn't have Christine Anderson on our side. We wouldn't have seen what happened in the Netherlands with a change in government.
00:16:13.660 We wouldn't have seen people like Bruce McGrath, the FAA whistleblower, who has absolutely gutted the abuse and crimes done to the airline industry.
00:16:25.340 And these people are openly declaring that the reason they're doing what they are doing is because of the inspiration provided by the convoy.
00:16:34.080 So as much as we want to internalize everything about the convoy, I think that we have not even begun to see the ripple effects on their way back from all of those events.
00:16:48.440 So, you know, out of that came the NDI and so many doctors and, you know, collaborations that have really impacted, you know, long term.
00:17:01.900 They have changed the course of this agenda against us, you know, their courage and inspiration.
00:17:10.020 If there's one thing that that does is courage begets courage.
00:17:13.220 We're showing the world what Canadians are made of.
00:17:17.000 We do have a core entity. 0.89
00:17:19.280 We may not all agree what that is, but we do agree that what they're trying to do is not it.
00:17:25.720 So I think one of the things that we have to watch out for in 2024 is to not take the bait of the wedge issues that they provide for us.
00:17:36.100 Everything that happens is instigated and triggered by a wedge issue that we can choose to take part in or not.
00:17:44.040 And we'll never change the existing system by playing their game.
00:17:48.060 We need to continue to build alternative universes, ecosystems, and environments that make their slate, and that, I think, is what's changing around the world most exponentially.
00:18:01.440 Dan Knight is on the show for the first time tonight out of Vancouver.
00:18:05.680 Dan, you have been really posting some interesting and thought-provoking things on X that I've really noticed in the last few months.
00:18:15.780 When did you start coming on board and becoming more active in the freedom movement, particularly as a blogger online?
00:18:24.700 Well, it should be probably COVID.
00:18:26.320 To be honest with all of you, I should be writing about MMA.
00:18:29.040 I shouldn't be writing about any of this.
00:18:32.320 Seriously, I was writing about Jon Jones doing steroids before any of this happened.
00:18:37.900 You know, COVID happened and I just started seeing like the injustices of this government.
00:18:43.960 And, you know, you kind of take for granted that they were, you know, that they were benevolent or that they had good intentions.
00:18:51.380 And then we see that, you know, there was this grab for power.
00:18:54.560 And I started writing about it.
00:18:56.120 And, you know, it's just, you know, the mainstream media seems like nobody really trusts them.
00:19:01.540 And there's kind of a vacuum of American media that takes a lot of the oxygen out of Canadian news.
00:19:08.880 And so what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to provide a platform for Canadians to find our news interesting.
00:19:15.480 So, you know, I provide information on committee meetings, provide information on like reports, stuff that the mainstream media doesn't report on.
00:19:24.060 I'm not sure how many of you guys read about the POEC report from page to page.
00:19:29.860 I read it and it was a nothing burger. The fact that they actually said that the Emergency Act was justified based on that report.
00:19:38.620 I find appalling. If you read it, you would see that they basically painted the Freedom Convoy as, you know, as a basically terrorist.
00:19:49.480 They were like they were malcontent. They were troublemakers and they didn't really have any legs to stand on when you actually read the report.
00:19:57.800 A lot of it was conjecture. A lot of it was they kind of touched upon coots a little bit,
00:20:03.440 But they didn't really get into the meat and potatoes of like what the Freedom Convoy actually talked about.
00:20:09.840 So that was my first step into Canadian politics.
00:20:12.900 And from there, we've gotten into, you know, the WE scandal.
00:20:17.320 From there, we've also gotten into the recent thing with Arrive Can, the $53 million contract that was awarded to GC Strategies.
00:20:27.600 I don't know if you guys are aware of that.
00:20:28.780 basically GC Strategies was awarded a $53 million contract to basically, they got paid $11 million
00:20:36.120 to be a LinkedIn recruiter. So that's kind of the corruption that we've kind of reported on
00:20:41.740 on my blog on X. And it's appalling. It's appalling that the mainstream media is not
00:20:47.900 reporting on this. So I was listening to Wayne and what he was saying about the mainstream media.
00:20:52.240 you know it's tooth i think it's almost one half of the mainstream media is being paid by the
00:20:58.660 government and if anyone here thinks that the mainstream media is on your side you have another
00:21:02.380 thing coming this is going to be the first election coming up whether it's 24 25 or 26
00:21:07.260 this is going to be the first election where we have the mainstream media has a stake on who
00:21:11.980 actually wins the election every reporter from the cbc to the globe and mail is going to have a stake
00:21:17.260 and who wins this next election and it's going to be frightening it's going to be frightening what
00:21:22.360 they say about Pierre Polyev it's going to be frightening what they say about all of the
00:21:25.500 conservatives and they're basically going to try to raise um Justin Trudeau on a pedestal and you
00:21:31.520 know there's actually I was reading Annie Lee's uh blog the other day and WeChat is already is
00:21:36.740 already perpetuating um Justin Trudeau on a pedestal they have their platforms and from what
00:21:43.180 i understand from which what we chat is it's basically a facebook messenger hybrid controlled
00:21:48.260 by the ccp now they're already putting out their disinformation campaigns about justin trudeau
00:21:52.760 and it's it's very frightening what's going what's going to happen next election
00:21:56.480 yeah you know it's interesting i remember asking you to come on the show a couple of months ago and
00:22:03.660 what did you say it was i talk about politics i don't go down rabbit holes i don't want to discuss
00:22:09.820 any of that stuff and if you ever discuss that stuff then i'll come on but if you don't
00:22:15.260 well i don't know i mean i was talking like there's some stuff i didn't really want to i didn't
00:22:19.260 i only started looking at the we chat like the we um we chat recently with the um foreign
00:22:26.700 interference and that's kind of what led me go down this rabbit hole and it's it's very frightening
00:22:33.180 Because if you look at WeChat, it has 1 billion people using that platform.
00:22:38.560 And a lot of them are using it from Canada.
00:22:42.020 I've actually approached a lot of MPs here in Canada about what their stance on, like whether or not we should block it.
00:22:47.760 And none of them want to touch it.
00:22:49.260 They're very frightened.
00:22:50.360 They're like, a lot of people use this platform.
00:22:51.920 We don't want to touch any petition that involves us banning this platform.
00:22:57.220 So there's a lot of fear within the government about touching that apparatus.
00:23:01.740 us um right now we have i'm trying to think of like which committee is uh touching it i believe
00:23:06.520 it's the ethics committee and they're right now they're um they're basically investigating tiktok
00:23:12.780 um and i hope that they investigate wechat um they're basically just discussing like what the
00:23:18.460 algorithm and it is very scary because if you look at like tiktok it's 30 second basically 30 second
00:23:23.800 videos and it basically like it's not us that really don't digest that information it's the
00:23:30.940 younger generation um and what's scary about that is that the younger generation are looking at 0.85
00:23:35.580 these videos 30 seconds at a time and if the ccp is actually controlling this platform they can 0.89
00:23:42.200 actually alter the behavior or the opinion of a lot of people let's just say that they put 0.82
00:23:46.860 pro-palestine um videos in front of them the atrocities of like what's going on in that war
00:23:53.580 in front of like hundreds of thousands of youth what do you think that's the outcome is that
00:23:58.800 going to be and then they don't actually see what's going on on the other side do you think
00:24:02.260 that they're the younger generation is actually going to have an objective opinion on this no
00:24:08.400 because they're they're actually getting a one-sided thing and that's from tiktok that's
00:24:11.740 from we chat you talk about this like it's hypothetical no it's not it's actually happening
00:24:18.320 no no it's actually happening yeah it's going on right now man uh we've got a lot of independent
00:24:23.580 journalists here who've probably got some questions so guys if you have a question
00:24:27.620 unmute yourself and speak up who haven't we heard from yet jason levine obviously in the top right
00:24:33.080 corner jason thank you by the way for uh helping me organize this extravaganza of amazing people
00:24:39.900 tonight i really appreciate you taking the time you have been a huge help and you've been doing
00:24:45.280 this i guess now for what the past year or so and you've been very tenacious in terms of getting
00:24:52.200 your guests you've had some fantastic guests you do a couple of streams a day uh i think you're
00:24:58.680 like six or seven days a week you took a trip across the country earlier this year i'm sorry
00:25:04.400 i didn't have a chance to meet you while you were in winnipeg for for that brief time but i want to
00:25:08.700 thank you for everything that you've done and everything that you will do going forward what
00:25:12.900 motivated you to start doing this in the first place february 2022 motivated me my birthday is
00:25:19.940 valentine's day so when he invoked the ea it really shook my world completely uh but no it
00:25:25.460 was his actions during uh the uh yeah the convoy there and uh coming down hard on on my canadian
00:25:32.580 friends um i watched it happen here i wasn't there i was in alberta i was watching it from here
00:25:38.340 and when trudeau came out in front and said look if you don't like what i did here the best thing
00:25:42.740 for you to do is run against me go ahead and get support and run against me i said all right so
00:25:47.460 So that's when I decided to run as an independent candidate,
00:25:49.900 as an MP for Yellowhead, Alberta, to do exactly that,
00:25:53.280 to go run against these Liberals, to get in there and do some actual work,
00:25:57.160 fighting hard.
00:25:58.540 My fellow neighbours were pounding on the front door during that winter,
00:26:01.440 but I want to get in the back door with the parking pass
00:26:03.980 and actually have an office and go and do something in there.
00:26:06.820 So that was my motivation for that.
00:26:08.440 And that led to the podcasting.
00:26:10.400 And yeah, I've had excellent guests.
00:26:11.980 The privilege most of the people on the screen have been on.
00:26:14.440 Hi, Dan. Nice to meet you.
00:26:15.980 I'd like to get to know you too, Derek.
00:26:17.460 and then get you guys on at some point.
00:26:20.600 But yeah, Shadow, I'm really appreciating the opportunity
00:26:23.960 to chat a bit about 2023.
00:26:25.740 And I do want to highlight a few things that I think were positive.
00:26:29.360 We came out of 2023 with the NCI report.
00:26:32.080 I think the NCI report is going to be groundbreaking for Canada.
00:26:35.100 I think Canadians may start to understand what this really means
00:26:38.220 and get behind it and really push the government
00:26:41.080 to provide us some answers around that one.
00:26:43.540 I want to highlight the Ingram decision because, well, I got Leighton here.
00:26:46.880 So Leighton was behind the Ingram decision here in Alberta, which really opened up some doors around accountability for COVID.
00:26:54.220 Leighton, can you talk about that briefly?
00:26:56.400 I'm sorry to interrupt you, Jason, but Leighton is going to get him to talk about that.
00:27:00.880 Yeah, the Ingram decision, most people here know there were constitutional challenges in multiple provinces.
00:27:09.460 There was one in BC, a case called Baudouin, one in Manitoba called Gateway that went all the way up to their court of appeal.
00:27:15.440 We had a similar case in Alberta that was called Ingram and myself and Jeff Rath with the lawyers on it.
00:27:22.700 Rebecca Ingram is a lady who had a fitness gym that ultimately she had to sell like a lot of people, a lot of business owners.
00:27:29.480 I came on for some churches. I was hired by the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:27:35.800 In that case, there were two important legal arguments.
00:27:39.600 One was the charter argument, which proved to be unsuccessful in B.C. and Manitoba.
00:27:46.660 In other words, in those jurisdictions, as well as in Alberta, essentially the government conceded that certain charter rights were violated, including freedom of association, freedom of religion, Section 7 of the Charter, the right to life, liberty and security of the person.
00:28:02.320 But, of course, in each case, you know, the government or the courts, I should say, accepted, firstly, took judicial notice of something called a pandemic.
00:28:11.840 And then they essentially decided that in misapplying a case called, a test in a case called Oaks from the Supreme Court of Canada,
00:28:22.300 essentially found that every single charter violation was justified in the public interest because we were trying to save the health care system.
00:28:30.600 What was distinct about the Ingram case, and the reason why it was a victory, was because in addition to raising the charter argument, we also argued that the chief medical officer of health, Dr. Dina Hinshaw, who I'm thankful to say was fired not long after I cross-examined her for four days, that her decisions, actually, every single health order in Alberta was illegal because she had exceeded her statutory authority.
00:28:58.480 And just to stop and think about that for a moment, the wording of the statute, Premier Kenney and his government actually gave her absolute power.
00:29:06.900 The wording was she could use any means necessary in law.
00:29:12.360 That's that is that's the that's the Promethean power to do anything you like, basically.
00:29:16.320 And she even exceeded that.
00:29:18.680 She went too far because the wording of the law was such that she was appointed as an expert to make these decisions.
00:29:25.420 and instead uh she was she it turns out it was revealed during the course of the trial that we
00:29:30.540 ran that she was essentially a straw person uh and that she was going back to premier kenny and
00:29:37.660 cabinet uh and she was getting her her signals from you know from from home plate uh and that
00:29:44.520 actually all of these health orders uh were were actually the government's and not not being made
00:29:50.100 by the chief medical officer of health so the net result was every single health or in alberta
00:29:55.560 was declared illegal and this opened the door for a series of uh of of civil actions that are
00:30:02.760 just getting going right now uh where i expect the government's gonna have to pay pay out in
00:30:07.700 the billions to business owners and private city and citizens for different types of loss including
00:30:13.780 financial loss, intentional infliction of mental suffering and the like. And so that's sort of on
00:30:20.480 the horizon for Alberta. I don't know how that's going to translate into other provinces. One
00:30:26.800 discreet thing, just to finish off this point that was really important about the way that we
00:30:31.080 structured that Ingram case, Alberta, as in other provinces, passed a law that said that you could
00:30:37.300 not sue the government over any of its covid measures any any of the health orders however
00:30:43.460 because of the because every single health order was declared ultra vires these these orders were
00:30:49.380 all nullities from the get-go which means there there actually are no health orders in alberta
00:30:54.280 they don't exist and so that the statutory protection that the alberta government the
00:30:58.920 county government would put in place is not in effect and so this exposes alberta uh to civil
00:31:04.480 liability i don't know whether that's going to that's going to extend or that's going to happen
00:31:08.900 in other provinces but that's the situation in alberta and then subsequent to the ingram decision
00:31:13.280 um our minister of justice mickey amory went ahead and actually made changes to the law so that
00:31:19.060 excuse me so that this could not happen again uh in our province so this is a very significant
00:31:24.900 uh case arguably one of the most significant civil decisions uh of the 21st century in alberta
00:31:31.240 perhaps in all of canada we have i think we have the first civil case maybe not launched yet but
00:31:37.420 the guy says he's going to the guy who has without papers pizza in calgary does anybody know about
00:31:42.080 that well i i happen to know his lawyer he might be on this podcast uh so but again within the
00:31:50.940 balance of solicitor client privilege i happen to know that gentleman and he is one of the people
00:31:55.360 who's suing the governor of alberta also chris scott of the whistle stop cafe he's one of the
00:32:00.360 people who's who has a case that's ongoing uh to ask chris to come on tonight sorry yeah he's he's
00:32:07.020 great uh my my good friend and colleague jeff rath actually has a class action that is going
00:32:12.700 that is uh somewhat specialized for business owners who lost their businesses uh because of
00:32:18.660 because of covid measures uh the health orders so there are there are multiple actions that are
00:32:23.540 going in uh in alberta but of course uh the case you're talking about without papers pizza is one
00:32:29.240 that's going to be very, very important.
00:32:32.140 And honestly, I mean, you couldn't have
00:32:34.120 a more sympathetic client in that situation.
00:32:39.140 They took his everything away,
00:32:42.400 which is pretty much par for the course
00:32:45.680 for any small or medium business owner
00:32:48.440 in this country the past few years.
00:32:50.140 Jason, you were talking and Leighton
00:32:53.520 so rudely interrupted you that I would like...
00:32:56.240 He didn't even say object first.
00:32:58.620 he just took over please continue it's all good yeah no worries look i was i was kind of propping
00:33:05.700 up alberta because we also elected smith for another four years which kind of gave us a
00:33:09.780 foundation to go ahead and push harder on our government provincially at least uh on the strong
00:33:15.440 backing of the agm that we just had as well which we saw app so another one of leighton's uh side
00:33:21.460 projects and alberta uh take back alberta worked really hard to make sure that some mandates were
00:33:26.800 push forward and some policies are considered and i really think alberta's on a good footing now
00:33:31.560 jump over to ontario where we had a lot of court cases of course all over ottawa
00:33:36.340 the barber i believe is in your green room he's hanging out right now um he's uh we can bring him
00:33:40.920 i'm not sure if he's uh hey chris chris there's chris barber speaking about legal problems
00:33:49.240 yeah no doubt he's got a few maybe he can update us on some of those as i try to get chris scott
00:33:54.880 to join us legal challenges not problems challenges sorry challenges that's right
00:34:01.080 if anybody has had a a challenge this past year it would be uh chris barber but anyway where is
00:34:08.400 jason there you were talking about jason uh please continue i again i interrupted you for a second
00:34:13.780 time i'm sorry no problem my friend i was just uh reaching out to chris scott to see if he's
00:34:18.840 available tonight uh you mentioned the whistle stop yeah so i just sent him a text uh so the
00:34:23.820 AGM was great for Alberta, and I think there's some good
00:34:25.840 foundation there. Moving over to Ottawa, we have
00:34:27.880 Chris Barber and Tamara Litch. I really think
00:34:29.860 that that judge there is
00:34:31.860 something I'm looking forward to hearing more
00:34:34.000 from. Chris, I'm sure, can really touch
00:34:36.080 on that one a lot more than I can, but
00:34:37.600 I'm optimistic about his chances there
00:34:39.940 and his future there. I'm not
00:34:41.980 so optimistic about Helen Grusso.
00:34:44.300 We've had some really bad decisions the last
00:34:46.020 couple weeks around her. She will not
00:34:48.020 be allowed to any expert witnesses. All
00:34:49.880 five were denied, and she will not be
00:34:51.920 allowed her own notebook from
00:34:53.700 her police notebook so she'll be there on the stand by herself with her own memory as her
00:34:58.160 defense that'll be early january so i'm not excited about that one uh unfortunately james
00:35:03.140 salary got convicted and he's going to be sentenced in january so that was another thing that
00:35:06.960 unfortunately happened for us in alberta and then of course the cootsman uh i'll save that because
00:35:11.880 i think we can get into that situation a lot deeper but uh we had some good things nci report
00:35:16.820 ingram decision and also the hate gate i do want to highlight hate gate because that exposed some
00:35:21.260 intelligence issues in canada here and and i think that's going to expose a lot for 2024
00:35:26.260 we'll be able to build a lot on the hate gate uh affair before we get into uh talking to chris here
00:35:31.540 i'm sorry jason uh i haven't introduced derrick smith yet derrick has been kind of sitting
00:35:36.500 patiently waiting of course derrick is the author of how the prime minister stole freedom and
00:35:42.200 what was the other one what there's a few more and we all at least many of us did a little piece of
00:35:47.940 that uh that live reading of how the prime minister stole freedom which is on your youtube channel
00:35:53.800 now derek thank you for joining the show tonight uh and being a part of all of this 2023 my friend
00:35:59.840 what has been the best thing and the worst thing well first off thanks for having me it's uh i'm
00:36:06.660 an ant among gods here in this uh this panel but it's it's great to see everybody here and i again
00:36:11.860 some that i've met throughout the year and some that i'd look forward to talking to outside of
00:36:15.560 this, um, this show, but, uh, 2023 was an odd year. I mean, there were a lot of good things
00:36:21.880 that came, uh, in terms of Danielle Smith being re reelected for her four-year mandate, getting
00:36:28.400 her official four-year mandate, I think was good for Alberta because, you know, fat Stalin left
00:36:33.820 last year, Jason Kenny, sorry, uh, left Alberta and we seen, uh, we seen Danielle Smith take the
00:36:40.420 reins and she's done a good job so far. At least I think so in terms of action that we're seeing
00:36:44.980 from an actual premier in terms of what they've promised versus what they've delivered it's it's
00:36:49.600 nice to see um somebody stand behind their words and not only uh fulfill their promises but kind
00:36:55.380 of go above and beyond what they've already promised i'm curious to see what the next you
00:36:59.180 know three and a half years are going to look like from danielle going forward if you were to ask me
00:37:03.180 my personal greatest thing to see this year i think it came towards the end of this year
00:37:07.320 and i'll never forget it it's it's tamera leach getting her freedom back it's herself um being
00:37:13.280 allowed back onto social media uh what a way to end the year i i've said it a million times over
00:37:18.320 that uh everyone seems to forget our pandemic ended about a year ago a year and a half ago
00:37:23.080 when we were allowed back into movie theaters and restaurants and we were allowed to have our
00:37:28.060 neighbors over again while uh folks like chris barber and tamara leach their pandemic didn't
00:37:32.740 end in the sense because they had restrictions placed on them they weren't allowed well i know
00:37:37.100 tamara wasn't allowed on social media chris had restrictions in terms of things that were going
00:37:41.020 to affect his business and and his future and uh all because they spoke out for everyone's freedoms
00:37:48.040 i mean they they paid the ultimate price for the rest of us to enjoy our lives and and i think
00:37:52.980 seeing tamara get some of her life back towards the end of this year um it speaks volumes as to
00:37:57.680 what's going to come in 2024 to her court case uh i feel if they had anything at this point they
00:38:03.280 would have brought their evidence within the first week of prosecution uh so obviously i i don't want
00:38:09.600 to count my chickens, but it seems like they don't have any legs to stand on, but, um, hopefully
00:38:14.100 good things come in the new year and, uh, we'll, we'll see what happens with Tamara, but, but I
00:38:18.080 think that's a great way to end the year. Thanks brother. Uh, Chris, how are you? It's been a while
00:38:23.640 since we had a chance to speak. And I know that you've been going through your own personal
00:38:27.820 version of, uh, some kind of level of hell for the last few months. Are you okay? Is everything
00:38:33.200 good? Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, it's good to be here by the way. Um, it's good to shed a lot of light
00:38:38.560 on what's actually happening in this country.
00:38:40.700 And we've been kind of living it the last four months here, I guess.
00:38:44.540 It's basically the world's longest mischief trial
00:38:47.980 that I think Canada has ever seen.
00:38:49.920 We've seen rape victims be betrayed by the court system
00:38:54.880 in the last four months here with their cases being dropped
00:38:57.720 in favor of the government going after convoy people.
00:39:02.600 Tamara and I, as most people know,
00:39:04.160 we have to be really careful right now.
00:39:05.480 If Tamara comes into the show a little bit later here,
00:39:07.480 I can't be here.
00:39:08.200 We still have conditions against each other as it sits right now, as well as Pat King too.
00:39:12.500 So I think in 2023, we've exposed a lot of the corruption within government.
00:39:18.460 I think we're continuing to do that going forward.
00:39:21.580 A lot of people everywhere I go in my hometown of Swift Current,
00:39:24.280 when I've been home the last few weeks here is, you know, it's a lot of shock and dismay
00:39:28.540 when they come up to me and say like, this is still going on.
00:39:31.720 It's not in mainstream needy anywhere.
00:39:33.520 We don't see it anywhere other than, you know, the people that are putting it on their social media feeds.
00:39:39.100 It's the only way where anybody's actually seeing what's going on here.
00:39:41.900 But we're 32 days into trial here.
00:39:44.700 We're four months into trial.
00:39:46.620 We will go through a Zoom trial on January 4th for a couple hours, and we'll have another one at the end of January.
00:39:53.900 Trial is going to resume March 13th, 14th, and 15th for three days and possibly five days after that.
00:40:01.260 and it was supposed to be over in october and november right 16 days started september 5th
00:40:10.280 2023 16 days in trial like i said we're still sitting in this courtroom now we're home for the
00:40:16.060 for the holidays it's really good to come home and have some family time and and get back to
00:40:20.620 roots here but you know like the unsung heroes of this thing right now my 20 year old son jonathan
00:40:25.360 is basically running the business for the last four months dispatching trucks dealing with
00:40:30.840 customers quoting loads um i'm doing what i can to help from the courtroom when you get a text
00:40:35.480 message from them and in panic in a day um and then doing the invoicing and billing my daughter
00:40:40.700 stepped up to the plate uh it's a lot of stuff when you look at the the amount of pressure that's
00:40:45.500 on the family around that so we've got a lot of independent journalists on the show with us
00:40:51.460 tonight does anybody have a question for chris does anybody want to pipe up like unmute yourself
00:40:56.380 and go ahead. There's Dan. Go ahead, Dan. Hey, Chris, what are the charges against you right
00:41:00.760 now? And how many days have you been in trial so far over that charge? So we've got seven,
00:41:05.920 I've got seven indictable offenses. So Tamara's got six, I've got seven. So they range from
00:41:10.460 mischief to going against the court order, intimidation of a peace officer. There's four
00:41:16.960 counseling charges on top of that. Tamara is basically the same charges, except I have an
00:41:22.760 extra charge for going against the court order or a counseling charge so we're like i said 32 days
00:41:28.900 in a courtroom right now in ottawa 3 000 kilometers from home we've had to take up residence in the
00:41:34.160 city of ottawa i can basically work my way around the city of ottawa right now without a gps in the
00:41:39.820 car so i'm getting kind of good at this now usually i just i just kind of knew where wellington was
00:41:44.180 before you're learning the city that's not a good thing well it could be a good thing under
00:41:52.480 other circumstances but is there is there anything you can't discuss chris like i'm not allowed to
00:41:59.420 discuss disclosure so the lawyers get a little nervous every time i open my mouth near a microphone
00:42:03.800 and a podcast but as long as i stay away from the stuff that's going on within the courtroom
00:42:08.020 the disclosure the evidence that sort of stuff they've uh they've kind of let me do the podcast
00:42:12.580 and keep everybody informed of what's been going on anybody else chris chris do you know how long
00:42:19.900 Do you know what a mischief charge typically goes along in court?
00:42:23.360 Do you know how many days it typically goes on for?
00:42:25.800 Three days is what I understand.
00:42:27.720 I can answer that.
00:42:29.180 Yeah, Leighton.
00:42:31.060 I've done hundreds of mischief trials, and I've never seen one that's gone past half a day.
00:42:36.160 I mean, you're talking about basically mischief charges is interference with property rights is what it is.
00:42:45.060 And so the idea that a mischief trial could last four months is absolutely ludicrous.
00:42:54.200 It makes, frankly, as a lawyer, it's it just it testifies to the state of decrepitude of the entire justice system that we have in our country right now.
00:43:05.140 This is just one of the problems. But we have systemic delays across the board.
00:43:10.580 And a big part of the reason is what Chris was just saying, is that the allocation of resources and the prioritization of what's important and what's not is completely out of line with, I think, the expectations of everyday Canadians.
00:43:27.020 Law and order, in terms of actually prosecuting criminals, simply is not occurring.
00:43:34.380 There's a man today, a rapist, I won't say his name on air, but you know who I'm talking about.
00:43:40.580 uh was a very very serious serious rape case was granted bail without even a bail hearing
00:43:46.560 uh and we have uh we have these these poor guys in coots uh you know that have been there sitting
00:43:52.660 there for almost two years uh so really it's it really is absurd it's theater of the absurd to
00:43:58.640 have a four-month-long mischief trial and i think uh i happen to agree with uh with dan's comment
00:44:04.840 And what we have here, you know, fortunately, this is a game that trial lawyers play.
00:44:11.000 You know, it's almost like if you're if you're if you're playing poker and you have a really bad hand and you want to stay in, you want to stay in the hand.
00:44:20.260 What do you do? Well, you do a lot of bluffing. Right.
00:44:22.700 And that's kind of what the governor of Canada is doing right now.
00:44:25.260 in my respectful opinion watching your case from the outside chris i don't know all the particulars
00:44:30.300 but as a as a criminal trial lawyer of 30 years um who's conducted all manner of cases from murder to
00:44:38.140 sexual assault all of it when i see what's coming through uh and i just watch the sort of landscape
00:44:44.460 of your case unfold um i think i can see where this is going um uh and uh and that really uh i
00:44:52.060 I don't think the Crown has any sort of a hope or have any reasonable prospect of a conviction here, which which if the system were functioning properly, this case would not have gone to trial.
00:45:02.620 Our prosecutors actually have that discretion in our system and they actually have a duty not to take cases to trial where there is not a reasonable prospect of conviction.
00:45:11.640 yeah another thing we have to think about too guys uh going forward any any cases that have
00:45:18.000 been uh acquitted in in ottawa right now or even windsor that the current prosecutor is appealing
00:45:22.800 so the lawyers had it made known to tamara and i a little while ago that regardless of the outcome
00:45:27.460 of this if we are acquitted there will be an appeal on this so the lawyers kind of said you
00:45:32.500 know you're gonna we're gonna be friends for quite some time chris so get used to it and and not to
00:45:37.340 mentioned you you've got that civil case that's kind of hanging over your head as well what's
00:45:42.520 that worth like yeah so the justice center of constitutional freedoms is helping us out with
00:45:47.380 that right now the lawyer james manson out of toronto is going against uh or is helping us
00:45:51.900 out against paul champs xe lee and and a few others from downtown ottawa they introduced a
00:45:56.780 slap motion here i think it was last week or the week before in ottawa and uh so it's working its
00:46:02.580 way through the the process now the judge will take you know 40 days maybe to render a decision
00:46:09.200 on that and then we'll go from there the the case still hasn't been certified yet it is 400 million
00:46:14.680 dollars if you say it just like dr evil it sounds better right
00:46:18.600 shadow i have a question for chris yeah so good to see you i'm sorry man i was
00:46:32.560 a good line i love it so so with all this time and and uh and the uh the heads up regarding uh
00:46:41.480 a uh going to appeals court if you if you are not convicted i wonder if there's anybody in the
00:46:48.980 network out there who who's really good at creating a board game called mischief trial
00:46:53.640 i mean this would be kind of you know like the the theater of the absurd mischief child board game
00:46:58.480 that could, you know, maybe be a fundraiser for all of this.
00:47:02.460 We definitely need help with that.
00:47:05.880 That's a big thing.
00:47:08.060 Paying the lawyer bill right now.
00:47:11.260 And maybe Leighton can chip in on this,
00:47:14.300 but I'd like to identify something here
00:47:16.340 that a lawyer friend of mine brought up and described
00:47:21.140 is we have this misconception in Canada
00:47:24.780 that we have a justice system, a system of justice.
00:47:28.480 We do not. We have a legal system, and that system of legalese, for lack of appropriate terminology, is the punishment.
00:47:39.120 We are in an inversion of the justice system that the reason Chris is going to be persecuted till the ends of time is because the system, the entrapment, once you've entered into the system of legal control, that is the punishment.
00:47:59.580 And they seek to make examples of anybody that's been drawn or sucked into that. Is that kind of a fair interpretation, Leighton?
00:48:09.120 uh well to quote uh sir winston churchill who said of democracy that it's the worst possible
00:48:17.260 system except for all the others the same is true for our legal or justice system uh but it's
00:48:23.960 important to also uh sort of pair that with something that jordan peterson often says and
00:48:28.260 he says that you know when you have any type of a complex system uh if it's working well at least
00:48:34.920 half of the time it's doing pretty well and our system was doing pretty well until recent decades
00:48:41.000 and what you're seeing right now the rot that you're talking about it where it isn't working
00:48:45.880 is that we used when i came into the law you know 30 years ago essentially when you think of the
00:48:52.560 trial it was still about pursuit of a of the truth of a matter that was before the court and and we
00:49:00.000 we would argue cases based upon relevant facts and law what has happened it was sort of the
00:49:05.420 marxification of all of our institutions this has happened in justice as well medicine universities
00:49:12.060 schools health care across the board but in the legal system what's happened now is we have
00:49:18.120 created we now have a system that prioritizes social justice which is an oxymoron accent on 0.97
00:49:24.620 the moron, where what we do is we pick winners and losers, not based upon the truth, not based 0.97
00:49:31.100 upon the facts of what happened, but based upon who the offenders are, what their race is, what 1.00
00:49:37.120 their gender is, what their sexual proclivities are. And so when we come to people like Chris
00:49:43.460 and Tamara or the Coots Four, where they're being ranked, they're being treated differently by the
00:49:49.180 system because of who they are because they happen to be quote-unquote political dissidents
00:49:55.260 and i'm using the wording not of my own wording but our current chief justice justice wagner
00:50:01.360 essentially said that and our former chief judge uh in two op-eds that she wrote right after the
00:50:07.540 freedom convoy beverly mclaughlin who sits on a human rights tribunal in in china try to explain
00:50:13.640 to me what that looks like um they they both say the same thing essentially that the freedom convoy
00:50:20.420 people who went there and peacefully protested in expression of their charter rights were actually
00:50:27.060 terrorists and that wording you know to tie that up with what uh what dan was saying earlier that
00:50:32.960 that's how that's why the emergencies act inquiry came out the way it did and part of the problem
00:50:38.920 with the justice system there just to finish off the point is the liberals back engineered that
00:50:44.040 that legislation so that no matter what they did it would turn out okay right uh because they they
00:50:51.140 fixed the the way that the inquiry uh could work they fixed how long you could have to question
00:50:56.800 them that there would not be any proper cross-examination there would not be any independent
00:51:01.920 assessment that they would choose the arbiter of whether or not what they did broke the law
00:51:06.400 on and on and on so that in a nutshell is a synopsis of what's wrong with our justice system
00:51:11.960 it's not a it's not a it's not trying to do justice that's not its goal right now it's
00:51:16.060 trying to achieve quote-unquote social justice which is another way of saying to to achieve
00:51:21.920 the objectives that the government of canada has prioritized and and at the end of the day
00:51:27.840 that is by definition um a democracy a democracy is rule of the mob rule of the loudest uh group
00:51:35.380 of voices whether they're manufactured or genuine is irrelevant in the current system because the
00:51:42.340 mob rule is not a genuine grassroots rule of the voices of the people that's the part that's been
00:51:49.360 manifested and created behind the scenes which has captured all of our institutions which to me
00:51:54.720 is you know the we hear this word fighting for democracy fighting for democracy when what we
00:52:00.460 should be saying is if we want a rule by law we need a constitutional republic not a uh democracy
00:52:07.200 because we have exactly that right now and the squeaky wheel the loudest uh uh mob is uh is the
00:52:14.160 one that's in control well this is precisely why we have the why we have a charter of rights and
00:52:20.020 freedoms or a bill of rights in the united states is you're quite right democracy can descend into
00:52:25.580 oppression by the majority or in net effect oppression by an elite minority which is what
00:52:31.980 we're seeing really in throughout the west but what those charters are those those human rights
00:52:37.280 charters are supposed to be a check on that so that the new or so that the the definition of
00:52:42.920 democracy that we've we've been operating under uh perhaps in a delusory way in canada the united
00:52:48.720 states and elsewhere is ruled by the majority with respect for minority rights that's sort of
00:52:54.420 been the Canadian vision of what democracy was supposed to look like. And unfortunately,
00:53:00.520 what we're seeing is the latter part of that is being suppressed. There isn't a lot of respect
00:53:06.320 for minority rights, at least in what we're seeing instead is really oppression by minority
00:53:13.040 through political divisions and sort of having this, I guess, hierarchy of victimhood,
00:53:21.880 which seems to be the way that people get what they want,
00:53:25.900 using the legal system sort of as almost like a luncheon counter.
00:53:31.120 And we're also seeing all of that nonsense being amplified by the government,
00:53:36.020 by the media, the left-wing corporate media, and social media, obviously,
00:53:40.240 and suppressed a lot on the rational thinking side of things,
00:53:45.420 at least in Canada, by the government themselves,
00:53:49.040 which i find to be completely unacceptable odessa we are going to talk about because you'd prepared
00:53:56.500 for this what do you think is coming next year what's in store for 2024 okay i'm giving away my
00:54:06.040 show that i'm doing tomorrow but i don't know just think of this as a promo okay for your show
00:54:12.080 tomorrow so a very well-known correspondent for the cbs news network out of the states
00:54:18.240 says there's going to be a black swan event her name is katherine harridge she's taken very
00:54:24.600 seriously she used to uh report for fox news about military uh stuff she's married to um
00:54:32.100 colonel jamie hayes and he's a chief of staff was he's retired now in deputy directable for
00:54:39.360 special operations she's married to him she says she's pretty sure there'll be a black swan event
00:54:45.880 she said black swan event is things like 9-11 we already know that wef is promising a cyber attack
00:54:53.260 of some sort by 2025 popular mechanics if you can believe it wrote a whole article about a cat
00:55:00.080 a catastrophe catastrophic mutating event will strike in the next two years bbc is talking about
00:55:07.040 it um i think it's because they don't want a free america or canada they need to keep trudeau and
00:55:14.220 some sort of replication of Biden in there. And so to screw up any kind of faux election,
00:55:22.200 where we could maybe get ourselves out of the worst of the worst, at any time, if they cause
00:55:28.080 a catastrophe, it's I think, I don't know if Leighton would even know with the law, I think
00:55:33.460 you can just cancel elections. And my friend, Barracuda Barbie, who's very loud on Instagram,
00:55:40.060 is like you can just tell that Trudeau is glib and glee and he's a narcissist and is like,
00:55:46.860 I'm not going anywhere. And so I feel that 2024 or just into 2025, there will be some sort of
00:55:56.620 catastrophe, probably a cyber attack that takes down banking. What I pray doesn't happen is the
00:56:05.260 DeGal, D-E-G-A-L, military report that was talked about and sort of leaked as soon as COVID
00:56:13.720 happened. And it was leaked what the population of each country will be in 2025.
00:56:21.980 And Canada had a third less and America had two thirds less. I think that's all going to shit 0.99
00:56:29.060 because they're going to fill it in with immigration. But I don't know if they thought 0.99
00:56:33.240 the VAX agenda would go better than it did. So I think I can sleep at night that the DeGal
00:56:38.380 military report is not going to happen unless this Israeli war hits all of us. 0.94
00:56:45.160 I don't think it's going to be good. Do you think this is all part of the plan 0.90
00:56:49.140 or is it them like scrambling? And I've had conversations like this with Jason, with Wayne.
00:56:54.780 I've had this conversation with Derek as well. Is this part of the plan or are they just scrambling
00:57:01.080 to try and fill in the holes with anything they can because we have created such a monkey wrench
00:57:05.700 for them i think there is a plan but they know they're testing us so with the covid thing it's
00:57:14.340 not going well i mean we're a super sheep nation in canada and what is it 14 uptake in boosters
00:57:21.140 and most of those are the elderly in old age homes who are being forced boosted who don't
00:57:26.980 even know what's going in their veins. So I think they're having to pivot because I don't think
00:57:33.180 they're going to get away with these injections over and over. The who thing is not going well.
00:57:39.280 I don't know if you've had James Roguski on, but the WHO is failing now to implement what they want
00:57:45.380 by the end of January, unless they completely cheat, but people are outing it. So no, I think
00:57:50.420 they're pivoting. And I think that timing might change. I think the really the only thing left
00:57:56.300 they have is war that spreads or a cyber attack that takes everything down
00:58:05.900 and oh sorry go ahead derek get your hand up sorry i just wanted to chime in because i actually had
00:58:13.540 a video that came out this morning talking about the same exact thing that when you look at when
00:58:19.160 people talk about distractions that everything that happens when it comes to trudeau's scandals
00:58:23.480 It's just another distraction to take your eyes away from what's actually going on. 0.97
00:58:27.740 And what I find funny about what Odessa is talking about with a black swan moment is that Justin Trudeau has recently been making speeches that he intends to run in the next election, despite his low polling numbers, despite everyone saying, is this man ridiculously stupid for putting his hat in the ring to do this again? 0.61
00:58:44.680 But I've even said to people, he must have an ace up his sleeve when it comes to all of the things we've seen him pull off in the last eight years.
00:58:53.120 And now when with his links to the WEF and when you see what happened, well, what figuratively happened in the United States with the last election, why would he run again if he didn't have some kind of plan in place to ensure his victory or at least to stall an election when he talks about he's not, quote, done yet?
00:59:11.480 um that should scare the living daylights out of people and again when odessa talks about
00:59:16.040 what she's coming forward with those scenarios seem more and more likely the more that you start 1.00
00:59:21.600 to look at the distraction side of well why would trudeau say something so asinine so stupid but 1.00
00:59:26.560 then you start realizing well hold on a minute maybe that maybe that's the distraction maybe 1.00
00:59:30.680 he doesn't want us to think about all the possibilities that could come from him running
00:59:34.960 again and i think we're going to see that next year for sure uh chris i've got a question for
00:59:39.660 you uh and we're gonna have to say goodbye to chris barber very soon the reason for that is
00:59:43.280 we have somebody he cannot be on screen with coming on uh in the next few minutes chris you
00:59:49.340 were down in the states for america fest in the last couple of weeks i saw you post pictures
00:59:55.120 how was that man because something i saw you mentioned that we've got to do this in canada
01:00:00.280 man how do we do something like this in canada i spent five days down in america fest in phoenix
01:00:06.040 with my daughter actually flew down um we've seen and listened to some amazing speakers throughout
01:00:11.880 the u.s steve bannon uh donald trump jr gave quite the quite the powerful speech um roger stone
01:00:18.960 roseanne barr there was just about every aspect of of the conservative movement within the united
01:00:24.620 states and i came out of there just like ready to ready to go um walking out of a rocky movie
01:00:31.180 yeah it was like you just walked out of that place every day it was all day listening to
01:00:36.020 speakers and trying to find a way to push forward and the one thing i was going to mention about
01:00:40.420 odessa's comment there too is how far will they go in the united states to silent donald trump
01:00:45.240 in uh in coming up month or up until november steve van and bannon made a really powerful
01:00:51.240 statement too that they're going to try and take his life they're going to try that viciously to
01:00:56.520 make sure that he has no chance of getting on the ballot in November and, uh, mark his words.
01:01:01.500 If something like that happens in the United States, it's going to be a lot of trouble down
01:01:04.620 there. Yeah. You know, I, I think we need a Canadian version of somebody like Vivek Ramaswamy
01:01:10.520 up here. The closest we have is Danielle Smith. Did you get a chance to hear Vivek speak or get
01:01:17.020 a chance to meet him at all? I did. Yeah. Very powerful. And then at the end of this, of his
01:01:20.980 speech, he actually opened it up to the, to the audience for questions. One of the big things
01:01:25.560 that centraled around AmericaFest
01:01:28.580 was the fact that Trump would then draw Tucker Carlson
01:01:32.480 for his VP for running for office there.
01:01:36.120 And Tucker downplayed that one when he was on stage
01:01:38.180 on the Sunday night, I believe it was.
01:01:39.900 He came up pretty adamant against that idea.
01:01:42.280 He said his place was better served with the people speaking
01:01:44.720 the way he speaks right now.
01:01:47.200 Chris, thank you for coming on tonight.
01:01:49.280 And if we're going to do the CanadaFest thing,
01:01:52.080 let's all get together and be a part of this.
01:01:54.520 because having all of you guys together
01:01:56.560 on one screen like this is absolutely amazing
01:01:59.260 and we should do this more often.
01:02:00.700 I don't care whose platform we're on.
01:02:02.120 Thank you, Chris, for coming on.
01:02:04.420 We'll talk to you again soon.
01:02:06.020 There is Chris Barber, who is still on trial.
01:02:09.940 We have Chris Scott from the Whistle Stop Cafe
01:02:12.700 in Mirror, Alberta,
01:02:13.880 who'd been waiting backstage a while.
01:02:15.480 Hey, Chris, thanks for joining the show tonight.
01:02:17.800 We also have Andy Lee coming on in just a little bit
01:02:21.380 and Tiana Truthseeker as well,
01:02:24.060 going to be joining the show we're just talking chris about what's yet to come in 2024 odessa
01:02:29.240 i just gave us some eye-opening earth-shattering and terrifying news uh dan you haven't gone down
01:02:36.980 the rabbit holes that many of us have gone down or maybe you are now after being on this particular
01:02:43.380 show tonight i just want to comment here well i want to comment about like the about justin
01:02:50.820 Trudeau, you know, not stepping down. And the question I asked the panel here is who's going
01:02:55.580 to replace him? Chrystia Freeland, Mark Carney, Anita And. I mean, they don't have, the liberals
01:03:01.800 don't have a deep roster right now to replace Justin Trudeau. Chrystia Freeland has like a
01:03:06.960 likability of Hillary Clinton. Anita And is, I don't know if you guys know about Anita And,
01:03:11.380 but she, her husband has, I believe he's actually director of LifeLabs, which had almost $100,000
01:03:19.500 worth of government contracts before Anita
01:03:21.700 became an MP
01:03:23.760 in government. Now they get like about
01:03:25.660 $500,000 or $500 million
01:03:27.540 worth of contracts from
01:03:29.700 the government since she's been an MP.
01:03:32.060 So the question I ask you guys
01:03:33.900 is who replaces Justin
01:03:35.660 Trudeau? I mean, I know that
01:03:37.020 the narrative is
01:03:38.620 why would he not step
01:03:41.720 down? Well, the question is who replaces him?
01:03:44.120 That's kind of what the question I want to know.
01:03:46.740 We got the
01:03:47.580 The housing minister is starting to make some noise.
01:03:49.760 What's his name?
01:03:50.280 Mark something or other.
01:03:51.220 I can't remember.
01:03:51.860 That's the thing.
01:03:52.720 You're right.
01:03:53.320 Mark Miller.
01:03:54.860 I think they're trying to paint or build him up a little bit.
01:03:58.700 How about the guy from Kingston Thousand Islands?
01:04:01.080 Let's go with Mark Gerritsen.
01:04:03.980 I love Mark Gerritsen.
01:04:05.320 Honestly, it's funny because if you look at Mark Gerritsen and I believe something O'Connell, what's her name? 0.98
01:04:11.740 The female version of him. 0.76
01:04:13.860 They're basically like the liberal.
01:04:15.100 i believe the liberal uh uh not the government but the liberal party they'll send out like their
01:04:21.540 talking points to them first and then they fire them off see which one's hit and then they'll go
01:04:25.820 with it if you look at them like going through committee um uh something jennifer o'connell
01:04:30.760 she'll go she'll be like oh you the conservatives all they're doing is looking for tiktoks and likes
01:04:36.940 on on twitter and then you know garrettson he's basically the twitter troll of the liberal party
01:04:44.480 I mean, honestly, look at like any of his posts.
01:04:46.520 You can't take any of them seriously.
01:04:48.480 I will say this. 1.00
01:04:49.920 Warren Kinsella called Mark Garretson the stupidest man in politics. 0.99
01:04:54.440 He's been around for a long time, Kinsella has. 1.00
01:04:56.600 So that's saying something.
01:04:59.180 Yeah, I mean, and Mark Garretson knows it.
01:05:00.940 He doesn't, honestly, I don't believe he, he has a trench somewhere outside of politics.
01:05:06.680 And I know he doesn't care.
01:05:08.280 Just look at the way he talks.
01:05:11.080 He basically called Justin Trudeau.
01:05:12.640 i remember i remember watching him in debate and mark garrettson basically said justin the
01:05:17.980 conservatives have no basis for their argument because they think he's incompetent so how does
01:05:22.740 that make sense and it's like you're basically calling justin trudeau incompetent like that's
01:05:26.140 that's your argument it was very funny but anyways i honestly mark garrettson knows
01:05:31.060 i i think mark garrettson is more smarter than we believe i i think that based on his posts
01:05:37.380 um i think he has a trench outside of politics and that's why he does what he does
01:05:42.260 so i just want to respond like dan like you know um because of the book i've written or
01:05:48.920 going through copy editing unjustified the emergencies act and the inquiry that got it
01:05:54.500 wrong um of course uh counter signal did the story in mid-november about the management and
01:06:01.520 supply agreement between pfizer and the government of canada and it was that interestingly anita
01:06:06.640 Anand was the person who was signing for the government. Now, I know a number of people who
01:06:12.120 are strong liberal supporters, Liberal Party of Canada members, and so on. And listening to them
01:06:19.700 talk when I do, I would say, run Anita Anand as a prime minister, and run it in this way.
01:06:29.160 And I'm saying, despite everything we know, run it in this way. Run it like the way that the
01:06:34.120 government responded to the pandemic. It's like the Marshall Plan of the 2020s. It's like the
01:06:40.260 most amazing thing. And if it hadn't been for what the government did, we'd all be dead or in
01:06:45.720 hospital now. And I'm saying that in terms of running a campaign, the next time it comes along,
01:06:56.320 no matter how crazy it is, but I think that there's been a lot of crazy stuff that's been
01:07:00.960 that's been explained to us by my provincial health minister, Dr. Bonnie Henry, and all kinds
01:07:06.020 of things, and Dr. Theresa Tam wearing masks in an empty room and everything and making people be
01:07:11.640 afraid. So I think that very likely the tone of the campaign, the Liberal Party of Canada,
01:07:18.680 whether it's Anita Anand or Mark Carney or someone else, or Justin Trudeau, will really
01:07:24.680 take on a surreal quality. No, and I absolutely agree with you. And I'm not saying that they
01:07:30.880 won't have talking points but my question to you is does the public believe them because right now
01:07:35.540 the government's talking about low so when they get questioned about you know food banks they're
01:07:40.700 like lowest gdp or uh what is that what is their talking points lowest unemployment in the g7s
01:07:47.280 those are their talking points so you don't hear can you hear can you hear me now yeah no no you
01:07:52.600 can't i'm just saying they got nothing i mean they they have the liberal party of canada has
01:07:57.220 nothing they have nobody bench strength that you're talking about nobody behind justin trudeau
01:08:01.680 unless you want to talk about mark carney who is a globalist a member of the world economic forum
01:08:06.480 so he would just go ahead and try and carry on what trudeau has been doing um you know do you
01:08:12.940 think there will be an election in 2024 dan ray quickly give us your uh prediction i i don't think
01:08:19.780 so and i'll tell you why because right now if you look at the polling through 338 canada
01:08:23.960 every party is going to lose seats outside of the conservative party the red red liberal party is
01:08:30.040 going to have a red wedding come next election and the the if you look at the funding from game
01:08:35.840 of thrones right yes yes absolutely it's going to be a red wedding and if you look at the terms of
01:08:41.040 donations the conservatives are almost three to one to every other party they are three to one to
01:08:46.220 the liberal party i mean i'm not sure what the ndp um i think they got a million dollars last uh like
01:08:52.100 last time they checked but they're not doing so well um so what's the onus on jagmeet singh to
01:08:59.460 call a vote of non-confidence there's zero there's no onus on the liberal party to uh to call an
01:09:06.440 election there's none so i mean i i see justin strudeau milking this one for the longest time
01:09:11.280 i think that they're going to try to maybe salvage something in 2020 you know 24 25 i don't think
01:09:18.000 that they can do it i think the government the thing is and i i heard something that was very
01:09:21.200 interesting. And it was, you know, you can say that I'm doing well, but I have to believe it.
01:09:25.300 And I think a lot of Canadians, I think a lot of Americans, they don't feel like they're doing
01:09:28.240 well. They're not winning. So I think, you know, the apathy of the electorate is they're not winning
01:09:35.100 with this government and they don't think that this government's behind them. You know, you look
01:09:39.420 at, you go to, you know, the worst thing I saw this, you know, this Christmas, and I was kind
01:09:42.980 of hoping that it would be like kind of nice. Parliament, they didn't have any Christmas
01:09:47.000 decorations up at Ottawa. There's nothing out there. It was like, it was lifeless.
01:09:51.200 And then if you go to the malls, we had like Palestinian protests.
01:09:54.300 I mean, like seriously, in front of Santa Claus, like if I was a child, if I was a parent having my child and there's a Palestinian flag, like, oh, my free Palestine. 0.70
01:10:02.840 Like, seriously, who who's the who who benefits from that?
01:10:06.220 And honestly, I know what the liberals doing. 0.98
01:10:07.920 They're obviously they're doing it for the Muslim vote.
01:10:09.580 But regardless, I think that the voters. 0.75
01:10:14.420 Sorry, we're going to have to.
01:10:15.800 All right, man.
01:10:16.620 So we're just going to have to pull you through a couple of more grinders before you start seeing everything that's really going on here.
01:10:24.940 I have to agree with Dan on this, though.
01:10:28.040 I don't think it's going to happen for two reasons.
01:10:30.640 Trudeau knows the polls will not support him.
01:10:33.620 There is nobody to replace him in the party.
01:10:35.580 Nobody's got a record.
01:10:37.120 And I think that is ultimately exactly why we are seeing 400,000 new Canadians in the fourth quarter of 2023 alone.
01:10:45.620 i think that trend is going to continue over the next year as long as they can and you add that to
01:10:50.900 universal income you will have the 29 or 30 percent of the vote that you will be required
01:10:56.240 to remain in power and i think that's the angle that he's going to take you're right uh dan great
01:11:02.860 we got to say goodbye we've got a couple of people coming on i want to thank you guys for
01:11:06.940 joining the show tonight really appreciate you guys taking the time and hopefully we can get you
01:11:11.660 on uh again soon one-on-one or maybe do another panel show like this thank you dan uh on x uh and
01:11:20.180 ray yeah is ray still there ray hey ray did you have something else okay i'll just i'll just
01:11:26.280 mention in terms of the the 2023 so like you know back and when the when the convoys you know was
01:11:33.340 when emergencies act was dropped that's when i began to write in the middle of the bubble and
01:11:39.200 the social distancing and all that kind of stuff and i only got an article on dissident voice a
01:11:44.380 smallish american website to write about the emergencies act because i'm not a journalist
01:11:49.300 i'm just a guy who's written a few books and and so um and then i was writing these articles through
01:11:55.760 2022 that were appearing on off guardian and the uk and propaganda and focus and covert action
01:12:03.860 magazines but all you know all you know europe or america so but i would say that what's happened
01:12:10.460 for me this last year is i've gotten more networked with other people you know i've met
01:12:15.500 clyde do something in person and i've been on jason's show and trish met trish wood and been
01:12:20.340 on her show and other people return to reason so you know flew out to to to do a documentary and
01:12:26.800 met met chris barber and saw tamara for lunch and so on and and so i think that that what's
01:12:33.480 happened to me might be a little snapshot of what's been happening to a lot of us is that
01:12:38.340 we're getting more and more networked so that if something does come along some black swan event
01:12:43.300 um you know i'm i'm a lot more networked a lot more people that i can talk with and think about
01:12:49.740 stuff i'm not going to be in that little little silo you know not new you know with all my
01:12:55.200 historic friends who are all um very happy to go along with dr bonnie henry or theresa tam's
01:13:02.060 latest orders, now I have a whole bunch of people that I can talk with and think out loud and say,
01:13:08.820 what are you thinking? What are you making of this? So I think that places a lot of us as Canadian
01:13:12.760 citizens in a different and stronger position vis-a-vis things that the government might do
01:13:17.980 that are not in our best interests. Ray, thank you for joining the show tonight. Really appreciate
01:13:22.980 you coming on, man. And we'll have you on one-on-one in the not-too-distant future. Thank
01:13:28.440 you again thank you pleasure okay there is ray mckinnis author joining the show tonight one
01:13:33.500 chris by the way there's chris scott who's been sitting there patiently waiting thank you for
01:13:39.080 joining the show tonight chris really appreciate here is the one and only pat king and rob primo
01:13:46.140 where's primo there's there's primo there uh from out east so welcome to the show you guys we're
01:13:51.920 talking about what is yet to come in 2024 we know pat you've got a you've got an ordeal uh in front
01:13:59.460 of you welcome to the show thanks for coming on tonight my friend hey my buddy how's it going 0.53
01:14:03.460 shadow and everybody out of the gang yeah wow what a what a panel of superstars man holy crap i kind
01:14:10.440 of feel kind of shell-shocked at the moment i got chris scott above me i got wayne i got jay i got
01:14:15.780 leighton leighton i gotta give you hats off man you guys have been doing some phenomenal work here
01:14:20.940 in alberta some some guys like myself just wish we can just catch some wind of that too to get that
01:14:26.960 same stuff going but you guys are doing great daisy man he's our man in the trenches man that 0.84
01:14:33.100 guy is putting up with shit that i have you know um chris hats off to you rob we had a chat the 0.55
01:14:40.500 other day on uh on the ex live there we're trying to do a little bit similar panel to this but i'm 0.99
01:14:46.380 going to bring all the haters on and i'm just gonna that'll be fun gonna let them go at me
01:14:51.720 we're gonna let them go at me because uh like you said uh and like the gentleman that was just on
01:14:58.040 you got a network of people here we are all working for the same fight we are all doing
01:15:02.920 the same thing odessa i didn't forget about you last time i seen you was in vancouver we were at
01:15:08.000 a big rally you and your husband that was uh right at the height right at the start of all of this
01:15:12.740 i believe um but you're doing you're she's she's on the money with some of the stuff that she's got
01:15:18.340 but i'm very outnumbered i'm the only chick here where's andy oh andy she keeps popping on and
01:15:25.540 then and popping off wait a minute i just heard i actually i actually identify as a chick now
01:15:31.820 so you're cool oh yeah i'm a lesbian i've been a lesbian for 43 years just letting y'all know
01:15:38.300 um but yeah um what a mess man what a freaking mess uh i've had to adjourn my stuff and ladies
01:15:48.420 and gentlemen i gotta do a shadow this is for fundraising purposes only if anybody wants to
01:15:54.140 help donate donate to my lawyer fees you can donate it natasha.calvino at gmail.com please
01:16:00.060 make the password ottawa that's the only way i can be on here because they're controlling my speech
01:16:04.860 They're controlling what I can say.
01:16:06.220 They're controlling everything that I can do.
01:16:09.320 Still on 10 o'clock curfew.
01:16:11.240 Still can't go out of the house past 10 o'clock.
01:16:13.780 Bank accounts are still frozen.
01:16:16.180 Mr. Chump is trying to do his best to, you know, play that little TikTok game on me.
01:16:23.000 Or not TikTok, sorry, Twitter game.
01:16:25.820 He says he gave me my bank accounts, but he hasn't given me my bank accounts.
01:16:30.500 He's lying.
01:16:32.200 But the judicial system that we're dealing with,
01:16:35.000 I've had to adjourn my trial now till May of next year
01:16:38.700 and then into the parts of July.
01:16:42.180 And that's because, well, other people that were on your panel here,
01:16:46.020 they're dealing with their stuff.
01:16:47.420 And I'm not going in without having a full playbook.
01:16:50.680 And I want to make sure I know what's going on with theirs
01:16:53.300 before I start dealing with mine.
01:16:55.580 Mine is a little bit more.
01:16:56.940 I've got a couple more charges than they do because of,
01:16:59.760 and, well, I can't even tell you what they were,
01:17:02.160 but there's three perjuries anyway
01:17:03.700 and two obstruction of justices,
01:17:05.840 and that's a miscommunication,
01:17:08.760 and it's basically the weaponization
01:17:11.160 of the judicial system against me
01:17:12.880 because whatever they can throw to the wall
01:17:14.860 and hope that it will stick,
01:17:16.520 they want it to stick on me,
01:17:18.600 and, well, I had the loudest voice, I think,
01:17:21.520 amongst a lot of them, many of the people,
01:17:24.420 but they're just trying to shut me up
01:17:25.760 and make an example out of me.
01:17:27.860 that being said
01:17:30.200 it's just
01:17:32.260 round and round
01:17:32.840 groundhog day
01:17:33.660 for me
01:17:34.080 I'm trying to get
01:17:34.820 my conditions
01:17:35.400 dropped right now
01:17:36.340 so that I can go
01:17:37.100 actually out
01:17:37.840 into the bush
01:17:38.360 again
01:17:38.680 work this winter
01:17:39.800 and try and pay
01:17:40.420 for some of my
01:17:40.980 own legal fees
01:17:41.700 out of my own
01:17:43.200 pocket
01:17:43.540 but they're
01:17:44.580 stalling me
01:17:45.200 in every way
01:17:45.720 possible
01:17:46.240 the court
01:17:48.300 what do you call
01:17:49.660 it
01:17:49.820 the people
01:17:50.260 the trial
01:17:51.060 coordinators
01:17:51.660 they're not
01:17:52.720 getting back
01:17:54.680 to us
01:17:55.060 in a fast
01:17:56.160 timely manner
01:17:57.140 to let me get
01:17:57.860 get a case in where i can get my conditions changed but um other i think i think odessa's
01:18:03.700 got a question here for you well it was you said you're fundraising so fast can you say it slow
01:18:08.900 sorry uh it's uh natasha n-a-t-a-s-h-a dot calvino cl or c-a-l-v-i-n-h-o
01:18:21.660 at gmail.com
01:18:24.240 and then if you
01:18:26.180 could make the password Ottawa that'd be
01:18:28.040 great and anything helps
01:18:30.240 guys
01:18:30.640 but yeah thanks Odessa for clearing that up
01:18:34.480 it's just a
01:18:36.380 it's just a nightmare guys
01:18:38.280 we didn't do anything wrong I feel
01:18:39.900 wholeheartedly in my heart that we never did
01:18:42.260 anything mean or
01:18:44.360 malicious or anything with ill will
01:18:46.500 intent when we
01:18:48.400 did what we did but
01:18:49.600 of course
01:18:51.040 at 27 countries on board and millions of people around the world on board with everything that we
01:18:57.200 we attempted to try and accomplish well i think that kind of made a blackface on mr blackface
01:19:03.460 and i think he's wearing it very well right now uh you can see him you know he's trailing in the
01:19:09.500 polls and all the stuff that's coming out that we were screaming about the you know the uh arrive
01:19:15.240 can app being a scam and then the money laundering going on through the canadian banking system and
01:19:20.420 everything everything's coming out so we won i don't care if they want to throw us in jail for
01:19:26.760 a decade or whatever we won we exposed it you can't stop it there's nothing you can do if i
01:19:33.380 gotta fall on the sword i'll fall on the sword if i'm found guilty i'm found guilty but i highly
01:19:38.360 doubt it um you see what's going on right now is a prolonging process is the punishment my friend
01:19:44.140 it's the process they're putting you through these years these agonizing years of of having to pay
01:19:49.480 having to wait uh the conditions they've had on you and and all of this stuff and i i think chris
01:19:54.520 scott can probably attest to that as well chris they put you through the grinder too yeah yeah
01:20:01.240 yeah i was a little rough i couldn't make hamburgers for a few weeks so that was uh traumatizing
01:20:10.520 yeah well i can attest they're really good hamburgers i i've been to the whistle stop
01:20:15.400 i haven't been to the whistle stop yet and i keep getting invited not by chris but by everybody who
01:20:21.000 lives in town there you gotta come out if you come out the mirror i'll go buy a burger over
01:20:25.340 the whistle stop yeah yeah yeah you should do that you should do it soon soon clearly wayne is
01:20:30.360 wayne is uh unmuted himself because there's a massive echo i just have to commend chris on
01:20:38.640 delivering that statement uh like he just got a a 15 minute major and a five minute
01:20:44.220 And he ducked it from the hockey game.
01:20:46.480 And, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:20:47.440 So it was rough.
01:20:49.440 Couldn't play hockey for 15 minutes next. 1.00
01:20:52.620 So Canadian. 1.00
01:20:53.760 Thanks for that, Chris. 0.96
01:20:56.260 Here's what's really scary, though.
01:20:59.760 Shadow, you mentioned about the process being the punishment.
01:21:03.080 Yeah.
01:21:05.100 Can you hear me?
01:21:06.840 Yeah.
01:21:07.020 Yeah.
01:21:08.760 So you mentioned about the process being the punishment.
01:21:12.200 And people don't realize it, like not even people that were treated the way I was or other business owners or Pat or some of the people on the panel.
01:21:21.660 But every single person in this country and in this province has been has is being abused by the process that we find ourselves in.
01:21:30.920 Everybody. And, you know, Pat mentioned that these things are being exposed and people are starting to see things and and things are coming out in court that we were saying from the beginning.
01:21:42.200 And what blows my mind is that the world is just ignoring it.
01:21:50.740 You know, the majority of people are just ignoring it, going on with their days, going out their lives.
01:21:55.880 Oh, yeah, Chris's charges were dropped.
01:21:57.700 It's all good.
01:21:58.560 Oh, yeah, we, you know, that's kind of sucked that we had to go through this, but let's just move on.
01:22:02.260 And I'm watching these things occur around me, and I'm thinking about the remedy that we have in Canada.
01:22:10.220 And Leighton is, I'm sure he's spoken about this.
01:22:12.200 has on my show the remedy that we have by the time we get through that process and have some
01:22:17.040 sort of a remedy the damages are done lives are destroyed businesses are lost families are broken
01:22:21.980 like it is absolutely unreal and watching the people that are still embroiled in their legal
01:22:32.240 battles going through what they're going through after years and after you know in Alberta the the
01:22:38.020 health orders were declared illegal thank you to our friends jeff rath and leighton gray for that
01:22:42.640 one and actually gill mccallan and the ndp for that matter but uh yeah the it just continues
01:22:51.280 over and over but what i realized is this is nothing new these black swan events people talk
01:22:57.960 about these horrible things that happen and then opportunists jump on it and tyrannize us
01:23:02.860 it's been happening for 5 000 years there is not anything new under the sun and uh i i had to kind 0.96
01:23:11.540 of kick myself in the ass for this but if you bother to pay attention to history at all you
01:23:16.780 see that this has happened a lot hundreds of times thousands of times all over the world 0.99
01:23:21.140 and the solution is always the same and we're here we are in 2023 still wandering around like
01:23:28.000 we have to rewrite or reinvent the wheel the solution's always been people just have to stand
01:23:33.300 up and say no and and that's it and it's over and you know we're uh we're it's like we have to
01:23:39.220 relearn that every 100 years it's the fear and and one guy who's all another guy who's been
01:23:46.260 persecuted by the law in his area rob primo you uh what happened to you at a hockey game a couple
01:23:53.820 of months ago rob oh yeah well uh the municipal government here has really targeted me and uh it
01:24:02.900 all started uh well actually it started at the beginning of the pandemic but where it really
01:24:07.400 escalated is when i went to this pride in the park here locally and uh i know we're on some
01:24:13.800 platforms where you can't say too much here so uh yeah there were some inappropriate pictures that
01:24:18.120 children shouldn't be uh subject to that were uh at this event in the public uh nude photos
01:24:24.900 uh there were i i witnessed a like maybe a three or four year old say to his dad uh what's that
01:24:31.420 daddy pointing at uh two men on men anyways photo so i documented all that these photos
01:24:39.860 this was at a pride in the park thing where they were just hanging out literally yeah this was at
01:24:45.180 of pride in the park where there was a drag show and at the end of the drag show uh the drag
01:24:50.080 performers uh genitals came out uh in front of the children i had this all on tape all of it
01:24:57.820 um i put it on the internet it went viral it had like 15 million views or something like that i was 0.60
01:25:03.520 on american news agencies i was on one american news i believe it was called um all over the world
01:25:10.660 it made international news of course there wasn't one not one agency in canada who would pick the
01:25:17.300 story up um i called the toronto police i have them recorded um saying that uh basically this
01:25:25.800 happens at pride it's it's normal and so i said to the police officer oh okay so it's okay as long
01:25:31.860 as it's pride season i mean he goes yeah exactly um and so basically i went through i tried to uh
01:25:41.520 get things done with the police i met with the police chief i did all kinds of different things
01:25:45.980 i had other people that were there come and put a statement forward as well um nothing went through
01:25:51.800 because the police told me that the image i'm talking about was artwork so it was painted
01:25:57.500 and it was protected through freedom of expression so while we all seen the charter get stomped
01:26:04.300 and you know hold no merit over the past few years um it was okay for these children to be exposed to
01:26:11.400 this because they're saying the genital exposure was an accident and then the artwork um was uh
01:26:20.060 you're allowed to express yourself through art there's just nothing they can do about it
01:26:23.460 um but the other thing before we shift gears too much I wanted to speak about is what Chris was
01:26:30.280 speaking about and I can really relate to that um because you know like a couple weeks ago or
01:26:35.300 whenever that was where I seen you know Chris's case got fixed there I was very happy uh for him
01:26:40.340 but a lot of people were celebrating and you know like this was like a big victory and I know it was
01:26:46.540 for Chris to not be so stressed out but at the same time it's what these people are able to do
01:26:52.660 and get away with like the same thing happened to me people go oh you must be happy all your
01:26:58.680 charges went away well not really because i got eight hundred thousand dollars in charges
01:27:04.120 and i thought i was going to jail i've never been in trouble before i had three children
01:27:09.520 i have sorry three children i coach three soccer teams i go to church like i do everything right
01:27:16.100 in life and they made me look like some bloody criminal and you know I had to be very cautious
01:27:24.060 about what I did uh going forward from there because I knew I was being targeted by the OPP
01:27:30.100 and the RCMP and the municipal government and everybody was teaming up against me and I have
01:27:36.420 all the paperwork now and and uh you know everybody in here who's got there I see a few
01:27:42.200 people I know for sure have gone through this type of stuff. It's, we can't just let these
01:27:47.580 people get away with it. I don't know what the answer is, but, you know, whether it's lawsuits
01:27:52.540 or what it is, I really don't know what it is, but we can't keep celebrating, you know,
01:28:00.300 oh, this person just showed up and, you know, was following me around for six months to build a case
01:28:05.660 of me playing at the park with my children and then having a protest with three people during
01:28:10.940 a lockdown and then they just show up with a sandwich bag full of uh provincial charges to
01:28:17.480 give to me and smear me all over the media and call you racist and white supremacist and this
01:28:22.320 and that and you know it it it really does affect you and uh many ways that people don't want to
01:28:28.700 talk about whether it's you don't have a job anymore uh whether people won't hire you uh
01:28:34.240 there's so many different avenues of of screwing you up it's exactly what you said it's the process
01:28:39.920 is the punishment whether you get off your charges for just a second before i forget and
01:28:44.860 actually i don't have much more time so but sorry to interrupt so what what you said about uh you
01:28:49.980 know it was a victory kind of it's good to be not so stressed yeah it was the opposite for me
01:28:55.740 i'm absolutely livid that that happened because we that's how i was we were having a trial within
01:29:03.840 a trial late and i can't remember what that's called there's a name for it it's called a voir
01:29:07.640 deer a board deer we're having one of those and uh we were we were presenting all sorts of evidence
01:29:13.840 that we got in the disclosure from alberta health services the rcmp and the government
01:29:17.260 showing like painting a picture of exactly how those groups conspire against us to destroy us
01:29:26.640 like the things they were doing to me behind my back without me knowing uh ahs they had internal
01:29:32.700 emails they were talking about wishing that the the covid case that they found at sobeys was at
01:29:37.920 the whistle stop so they could get that guy another one was uh said something like oh this 0.98
01:29:43.580 stupid guy thinks he's a doctor and knows what he's doing well we're going to get him like that 0.94
01:29:49.160 type of thing in in internal emails right and and this is going back and forth with the rcp and ahs 0.99
01:29:55.100 who admitted that they were working in partnership like so so for me um i wanted to continue i was
01:30:04.400 happy to continue because every time we went to trial every time we had a another uh appearance
01:30:10.620 more stuff was coming out and more information was getting out there about what these organizations
01:30:16.080 do to us and how they were doing it and when uh you know when the charges were dropped the crown
01:30:20.340 prosecutor just said well you know we just we've apparently the charges or the mandates were all
01:30:26.420 uh ultra bears the public health act so we're just not going to bother anymore there's hoots
01:30:31.420 and hollers because i'm not going to jail and i was completely deflated because well now what
01:30:39.940 i mean now we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars millions of dollars going after these
01:30:46.220 organizations to get some remedy like uh you know you you you got it when you said uh the victory
01:30:54.420 wasn't as much of a victory as what you think i just want to throw something in and i just want
01:31:01.200 to say that's exactly what they're doing to myself the other two a couple other people that are 0.92
01:31:08.560 involved with this i see the four coots boys the same thing as they're going to drag this process
01:31:14.160 us out too long to where we have no choice but to use what's called the jordan act or our 11b 0.53
01:31:20.820 rights and then they are going to drop all the charges on us and we're not going to get our day
01:31:26.080 in court we're not going to get the ability where we get the chance to stand up there and say what
01:31:31.600 the hell it is that they actually really did to the point that my own trial i can't even tell you
01:31:37.540 guys what they actually did i'm not even allowed to tell you guys in this panel because if i do 0.51
01:31:43.680 i'd be breaching my conditions and go to jail because if you only knew what the nonsense that
01:31:49.620 they have and what they've been doing to us you would all be standing there with smoke coming out
01:31:56.000 of your ears because of what they am and you know what else not when they do that to you when it
01:32:00.760 goes when it goes to the the triggers the jordan whatever it is 30 months or whatever uh the people
01:32:07.240 that think they believe what the government and ahs said about me and about you and that we were
01:32:13.120 getting everybody sick and we kill people justice adam germain told the people of alberta in a in
01:32:19.840 the summary of his findings that i caused irreparable harm to the people of alberta
01:32:24.320 and now people believe that they believe that's it that's the court of public opinion they put
01:32:29.180 their smear campaign similar to what rob was saying they put that smear campaign out and
01:32:33.000 that's all the public realizes is the negative effects that they've said in their media spread
01:32:38.340 or their media smear and not the fact that hey do you know what these people are actually going
01:32:43.280 through like when it comes to court dates trial dates uh cancellations uh rescheduling money here
01:32:50.400 for this you know they put how many i can't even say how many they put for me like uh motions
01:32:56.300 pre-trial motions it's like the crown is trying to drain your retainer so that you don't have money
01:33:02.560 to continue on and it's all it is it's like they're milking everything we're doing
01:33:07.300 lawfare man uh and and the other thing is you guys have got gag orders on so you can't even
01:33:12.780 stand up and speak for yourselves on social media or anywhere for that matter without being thrown
01:33:16.960 back in jail right yeah yeah it's so interesting like expense yeah let's try the the the gag orders
01:33:27.700 themselves i've heard people oh pat you signed a gag order to get out of prison no i didn't i
01:33:32.560 didn't sign anything except for the dotted line where it said i'm getting out these conditions
01:33:36.780 that they put on us those are their conditions those aren't the conditions that i signed because
01:33:41.300 uh well i guess in a sense it kind of is a gag order i wanted to get out of jail but after five
01:33:46.720 months for a mischief was sitting in jail um and not only just a jail maximum security like for a
01:33:52.920 mischief with murderers i'm sitting on a wing with murderers because and it just never it doesn't
01:33:58.860 make sense the the process like you said chris is is the punishment not only that i i have funds in
01:34:06.480 my bank account that i don't i'm not allowed to even touch to use in my own judicial uh to to
01:34:12.600 obtain my own counsel and they admit that your bank accounts are frozen but you can't have them
01:34:19.640 so we'll let you back on social media so you can beg for money?
01:34:26.520 I'm actually vibrating.
01:34:28.080 I'm so mad thinking about this stuff right now.
01:34:30.860 This has been my life for the last year and a half,
01:34:34.180 and I understand everybody, oh, well, you put yourself there, Pat.
01:34:36.920 If this wasn't happening, I wouldn't have had to put myself there.
01:34:42.160 We know the truth of all of this.
01:34:44.420 We've all been there.
01:34:45.360 We've all got our Chris, like you said, acquitted of his case,
01:34:48.540 but it doesn't matter. 0.72
01:34:49.220 didn't get his damn day in trial myself included i get up there i subpoenaed dina hinshaw back in 0.97
01:34:56.240 the day when i'm trying to do and i may have done a procedural violation i may have been procedurally 0.99
01:35:00.880 violated but at the same time we've been doing what we can to try and expose this shit only to 0.91
01:35:07.180 be found out that we're right and layton ends up getting it with the ingram and here in alberta that 0.99
01:35:12.940 is and and we're just getting beat up against the wall and oh no matter what yeah your your
01:35:18.480 conditions are are this this this and this your trials are this this and this and this
01:35:22.440 it doesn't matter you don't matter you don't matter anymore and this is your home man like 1.00
01:35:30.680 this shit oh yeah i'm gonna stop because i'm gonna get mad you're gonna get mad rob go ahead 0.99
01:35:36.640 and chris we know that you haven't got much more time left so if you want to drop out we want to 0.99
01:35:41.580 thank you for coming on sorry to get you mad and then uh say goodbye but i will get you on at some
01:35:48.240 point soon again we can talk more about this absolutely yeah and likewise i'd like to i'd
01:35:52.620 like to have you on our uh our show here too shadow i'm sure you got a lot to talk about
01:35:57.000 love to thank you chris all right ciao everyone okay yeah there is chris scott from the whistle
01:36:02.900 stop cafe in mirror alberta we've got uh dr chris schumacher waiting in the wings we're going to
01:36:08.960 bring him on uh hey chris hey dr chris how you doing uh thanks for coming on we're going to get
01:36:14.540 to you in just a second rob you had something yeah yeah i just wanted to mention before we uh
01:36:19.840 shift gears from that subject something i should have mentioned so i think the one thing you were
01:36:23.880 asking me about was what happened at a hockey game so really long story short this has happened
01:36:28.320 twice now where uh i was assaulted out in the community and uh i'm sure people can tell by
01:36:34.260 just looking at me that i'm very capable of uh defending myself but uh if i did that i'd be
01:36:40.120 playing into the enemy's hand and uh i would be the one that got in trouble so i put my faith in
01:36:45.520 god and uh you know i'm very happy that i didn't react because we know they're provoking and
01:36:50.720 looking for a reaction but what i wanted to talk about is how the municipal governments are doing
01:36:55.380 this thing right now where i explain to you guys about how you know we've seen this show that's not
01:37:01.020 appropriate going on inside of a park report to the police report to everybody uh reach out to
01:37:06.320 the city councillors reach out to the bylaw officers reached out to everybody i possibly
01:37:10.400 could now what they're doing is when i got no answers from police or any of the proper channels
01:37:16.000 they would not let me delegate at municipal council let me add which is crazy but i don't
01:37:22.000 have the money to go after them i i filed an integrity commissioner report and i haven't
01:37:27.520 heard anything back yet but so what happened is i was going to places that the mayor was for this
01:37:34.160 city and I was going up to him like the reporter like I do and I was saying excuse me Mr. Mayor
01:37:40.200 can we speak for a second I wanted to know if when you funded this pride in the park with $5,000
01:37:45.500 if you knew adults were going to be getting naked in front of children and he would literally start
01:37:50.160 running away from me so then I found out a couple weeks later that the municipal bylaw came out with
01:37:58.340 this new thing where they're saying they don't trust the police to do their jobs properly
01:38:01.840 And they hired bylaw officers now to consider, you know, if I go and ask these people this, that I am intimidating a city official, so a government official, sorry, that's how it is.
01:38:18.680 So if I go to my regional council and I wait outside the building in a suit, in a tie, very professionally, and I say, hi, Mr. Mayor, can I please speak with you for a quick moment just about an incident in the park?
01:38:31.340 The first thing they do is have bylaw come run at me and give me a ticket.
01:38:35.180 So I can't even ask these people questions.
01:38:37.540 i've already been told by one of his insider staffs if i go to his office again to try and
01:38:42.820 ask a question that i'll be trespassed right there and i won't be allowed on any municipal
01:38:47.180 government property going forward so they have completely weaponized the municipal system so
01:38:54.360 you were talking about predictions before shadow i want to come up with a prediction right now
01:38:58.900 it is my belief that the federal government is captured the political the the provincial government
01:39:06.340 is on its way there my thoughts now are everybody should be paying attention at a municipal level
01:39:13.020 because they are coming for it and i can promise you that and they're going to be coming hard and
01:39:18.600 you see it with all these strong mayor powers and all of a sudden all these mayors if you follow
01:39:22.980 them on the internet they're at all these different retreats with mayors all over the province
01:39:27.160 together and they're starting to click up together and do things together and
01:39:31.020 start paying attention to municipal politics our school board meetings because uh we're going to
01:39:37.100 see a lot of things happening at these levels now because we're giving these people uh power that
01:39:41.960 they they should not have well i'll tell you this west here we've have been keeping an eye out
01:39:48.460 especially in small towns with these land grabs that they've been trying to do i'm not sure if
01:39:52.720 they're going after the land in ontario is there any sign that they are chris rob
01:39:59.120 yeah i'm like maggie hope ron can speak to that a lot better than me but uh yeah there's there's
01:40:06.160 definitely a lot of that going on um i know down in peterborough they have a group that's uh that's
01:40:10.420 had some real success with rural councils um a lot of these councils don't even really necessarily
01:40:16.140 understand the gravity or or the way that they're even working and uh some people that have been
01:40:20.660 able to get in and get some delegations done have had success in that but i i believe this is going
01:40:25.000 on on everywhere um rob hit on something as well with the uh with the bylaw thing that i've noticed
01:40:30.320 here in ottawa as well where um where municipal bylaw officers are being weaponized so you know
01:40:35.880 for instance if we're down in certain areas particularly near parliament hill um when they
01:40:40.080 want either to to get rid of our presence because something else is going on or or it could be for
01:40:44.880 any reason they'll send in a squad of bylaw officers with an alleged complaint so they'll
01:40:50.220 initiate contact they often do this with a group or they go after a vulnerable person say like
01:40:54.540 you know old guy or possibly a woman um they come in and they try to find these people like
01:40:59.260 ridiculous sometimes thirteen hundred dollars um for for using a megaphone sometimes for having a
01:41:04.480 wagon or a sign um and then they initiate this contact and often it gets people riled up then 0.82
01:41:09.160 they'll have police waiting on standby who come in and then this stuff gets escalated into sometimes
01:41:13.640 criminal charges and what's happening to the people that are protesting or get these fines
01:41:17.560 is that they're being banned from the area so they're also being given you know sometimes they
01:41:21.660 get like an obstruct or a disturb disturb the peace type of thing that happens and they also
01:41:26.280 get banned from 500 meters so they're effectively losing their their right to protest in the process
01:41:31.220 as well so that's something i've noticed going on here a lot that's interesting hey jason i'm sorry
01:41:36.960 i haven't been to you in a little bit is it possible that we could get andy back and tiana
01:41:41.920 back i know that they were waiting patiently backstage for a while for their opportunity
01:41:47.060 to come on and i would like to have uh both of them on uh at some point in the next 10 or 15
01:41:52.440 minutes so we could go ahead and yeah i'll work on that right now that thank you very much wayne's
01:41:56.740 got his hand up mr echo over here i'll just make this shirt and then i'll drop off with me and my
01:42:02.240 echo and uh let the ladies come on but uh i wanted to talk to the point uh that chris and rob were
01:42:08.300 were addressing there and i and i think that this is an active uh tactic um the processes of
01:42:15.560 punishment until you get to a point where you are going to prove the courts wrong or the judicial
01:42:21.800 decision uh what the courts uh jay layton had had the great word for that they accept it as
01:42:27.540 undeniable fact um they are protecting these things uh uh these these cases like like chris's
01:42:34.260 that get dismissed it's in order to protect that narrative and discussion so there are these are
01:42:40.320 not victories although Chris was dismissed from the courts it's literally the impact of that
01:42:47.060 dismissal reverberates across the country because further evidence to eliminate or exonerate or
01:42:54.320 prove the narrative that the government is and the captured people in all the establishments
01:43:01.400 have endeavored in that's what they're protecting and and so any if you get to the point where
01:43:07.200 you're about to establish a precedent in the courts that looks unfavorably on the courts or
01:43:13.560 the establishment you're going to be dismissed at that point and to further to the irregularities
01:43:19.020 of it I wasn't even allowed to attend my own trial and the only justification that was given
01:43:25.640 to me was because I am a journalist I was not allowed to attend my own trial so these kinds of
01:43:33.840 things are just the absolute absurdities that they are able to dismiss um you know uh in order
01:43:41.460 to to protect their their narrative uh in moving forward in in this arbitrary powers given to these
01:43:50.380 jackpot thugs to walk in at any given moment and decide what might or might be a crime in their
01:43:56.800 book we're still seeing that playing out uh you know like for for people like pat and and others
01:44:02.540 here covid never stopped uh and that's an importance to know because you know when i
01:44:08.300 talk to the people at stacy's happy place in uh alberta there on thanksgiving morning a bookshop
01:44:16.780 that sells coffee gets three invest uh uh super snap uh inspections on thanksgiving uh just to try
01:44:26.220 to intervene and intimidate customers and exactly enter people into that process anybody of the
01:44:32.500 patrons object uh they become uh targets or persons of interest uh they're labeled potential
01:44:40.120 spies uh these kinds of things are are continuing to progress through that and it's all to protect
01:44:46.780 the narrative i believe they cannot allow precedence to be set like today wayne who are
01:44:52.800 you talking about exactly the the captured amongst the establishment um and in in the the when they
01:45:01.000 and it's escaping me when they accept as an unalienable truth without a discussion and
01:45:07.740 dismiss when that discussion becomes uh up to to to be to be you know had again um that is
01:45:15.140 intervention in the courts uh intervention in justice intervention in our rights in my in my
01:45:20.280 mind that's called that's a concept called judicial notice right and just to finish off
01:45:25.580 lane's thought quickly uh shadow um you know uh these these things that we talk about like chris's
01:45:31.880 case and others the military term is a pyrrhic victory a pyrrhic victory is where you win a battle
01:45:37.720 but you don't win the ultimate war right and uh and and that's kind of what's happening in the
01:45:44.480 legal land landscape it's important to remember in alberta you know we talk about things are all
01:45:48.980 sunshine and lollipops in Alberta, but the one thing, if I'm going to throw a rock at Danielle
01:45:54.780 Smith's window, is in the leadership campaign in the latter part of 2022, the thing that
01:46:01.700 distinguished her from the other candidates, Jason will back me up on this, is she was very open
01:46:07.460 in criticizing Jason Kenney and the handling of the pandemic by the Kenney government. In fact,
01:46:14.960 When she was a radio personality before she ran for the leadership of the UCP, she was very, very critical of them, and rightly so.
01:46:22.880 Well, since she's been premier, it's been crickets.
01:46:26.280 She set aside $2 million for the Manning Commission, which produced a very nice report with a series of important recommendations,
01:46:35.820 preeminent among which is the same recommendation that came out of the NCI report,
01:46:39.960 and that is, we need a full-blown public inquiry that has the teeth and the force of law.
01:46:43.760 But it's important to remember, even in Alberta, very little has been done.
01:46:49.920 The Alberta Health Services has not been fully dismantled.
01:46:53.600 We do not have any sort of accountability for the people who were the COVID villains.
01:46:58.620 In fact, Danielle Smith has many of the COVID villains in her cabinet right now.
01:47:04.160 And as a final point, Jason, again, will back me up on this.
01:47:07.920 People forget the CUDS prosecution is a provincial prosecution.
01:47:12.500 The man who was prosecuting that case, Stephen Johns, is the same guy that I dealt with when I was representing James Coates and Timothy Stevens and Ty Northcott and all the other people.
01:47:23.220 That is a provincial prosecution that Danielle Smith and Mickey Amory, our justice minister, could put to rest tomorrow.
01:47:32.480 And they haven't done it.
01:47:33.440 So, you know, even in Alberta, where we say, you know, this is the sort of the halcyon, the zenith of the freedom movement in terms of politics in Canada, it's not that great.
01:47:46.900 We need a lot more, you know, to happen.
01:47:50.000 And so Wayne's quite right.
01:47:51.360 You know, these are small victories.
01:47:52.860 I would call them empiric victories.
01:47:54.060 the only way we're going to get i think to where we need to be in terms of accountability
01:47:59.160 um and then from there amnesty uh is if we have a full-blown public inquiry that has the force of
01:48:05.600 law but you can subpoena premiers you can subpoena theresa tam you can subpoena bonnie henry and all
01:48:11.840 these other people uh who were the great covet villains and i think that's what needs to happen
01:48:16.220 in our country i mean before you leave um what uh what's going to happen in 2024 in your opinion
01:48:25.900 oh uh well i'm i'm going to be doing a couple of these exact kind of things tomorrow and the
01:48:30.940 next night so uh i'll drop uh just a little bit of a of a teaser um i i i think 2024 is going to
01:48:40.940 be the deciding year as to whether humanity remains intact and thrives or we turn into this
01:48:47.980 transhumanist borg type of of society under digital control but unfortunately i think that
01:48:57.100 affliction might come to the west rather than the east i i think that things that are are going to
01:49:04.380 impact the most may not necessarily come from within our country the geopolitical and global
01:49:10.940 pressures that are taking place and transpiring are going to end the cabal as we call it and
01:49:19.200 I think that with the collapse of that the victory that it may appear it is going to be incredibly
01:49:27.180 devastating for the west our societies we are we are not moving forward in on this planet as we
01:49:37.220 are led to believe uh you know in in just a one little clue on that is 28 nations sanctioned
01:49:44.100 russia in this conflict in ukraine great but uh 143 nations are lining up and stepping up uh with
01:49:51.940 their hands up in line politely waiting to do business with russia so i i think the perspective
01:49:58.020 on on things is changing on the international scale and we need to fortify and get our house
01:50:05.380 in order here and that ultimately comes with the court of public opinion which is the highest
01:50:10.420 jurisdiction in every land ultimately at the end of the day uh and and that's uh where i
01:50:16.100 see us moving forward so that's my little uh glimpse into 2024 the rest people have to tune
01:50:22.260 in uh tomorrow and uh the next day for find wayne on what's up canada you bet what platforms are you
01:50:30.660 we will be streaming that on rumble lgm.news and what's up canada.org for sure and uh we're going
01:50:40.580 to be launching uh lgm version 2.0 which is going to revolutionize how these uh kinds of events can
01:50:49.900 take place and the amount of information that we're going to be delivering for that so we're
01:50:54.400 going to be uh tweaking some stuff and uh showing people whole new opportunities because uh that's
01:51:01.060 really where we're at here i i believe we're gonna we're gonna have to decide whether we
01:51:05.180 want to take responsibility and move forward or go back to the stone age and be green all right
01:51:13.540 brother thank you we'll talk to you again happy new year wayne peters uh what's up canada and
01:51:18.360 lgmnews.org i had i had andy here andy lee was here and now she's not anymore hopefully she
01:51:26.560 comes back and tiana truth seeker as well dr chris shoemaker has been waiting patiently in
01:51:32.900 the bottom right corner uh where the circle gets the square hello uh dr chris thank you for coming
01:51:39.080 on tonight it's been a while how are you what's new with you oh hi shadow i'm just fine thank you
01:51:44.740 hello everybody i'm very excited to hear these many legal comments um we're doing our best on
01:51:51.980 the medical side to let society know what's going on uh recently it was in romania for seven days
01:51:57.800 and gave a speech at the romanian parliament and complimented the romanian people on only being a
01:52:02.720 30 uptake of the vaccine from the beginning back when canada was 90 95 or 85 to 90 romania was only 0.86
01:52:10.980 at 30 percent even at the beginning of this pandemic because they the Romanian people have
01:52:16.580 a good feel and a good flavor of what it's been like to be under communistic control what it's
01:52:21.840 been like to have a government telling you something that you know instinctively is not
01:52:25.940 good for you so they on their own didn't take up the vax and as a result they are the one of the
01:52:30.920 healthiest populations in Europe because they declined the harm vax. Chris information on
01:52:40.040 the vax has been evolving greatly in the past couple of months have you been keeping up on that
01:52:45.600 i would say i'm the one person in canada who keeps up on them the most
01:52:50.060 all right so can you tell us uh what what has been happening what have they been finding out
01:52:55.280 oh they've been finding out that there's dna in the vaxes and not just rna one third of the weight
01:53:01.360 of what goes into everyone's shoulder is actually genetic material in the form of double-stranded
01:53:06.540 dna which can last throughout a whole body's lifetime as opposed to just six to eight months
01:53:12.820 this has been proven and others sorry i i'm looking at pat there pat's been making faces
01:53:20.900 and i thought he had something to say here by the way pat king is here only for fundraising purposes
01:53:24.940 we were screaming this dr shoemaker and may i just say it's an honor and a privilege to be in the
01:53:30.760 same same group as you uh i use some of your testimony and some of your work on some of
01:53:35.620 things that i was bringing out but he's we were streaming this three years ago we were telling
01:53:40.960 people about what was in these jobs and and i want to say something here uh and and all the work with
01:53:47.740 the the commission the what the nci the national covid inquiry is that how it was the
01:53:55.000 national citizens inquiry nci only in canada yes you're right and if anybody's ever sat down with
01:54:05.240 those documents and read them and and see what's in them um one of my questions is for this this
01:54:11.200 one how come they're not arrested by now there's no you can't there's no ifs ands or buts about it
01:54:17.540 this is irrefutable proof now the ties to equities the ties with uh you know the judicial system the
01:54:23.960 paying off of people the pushing um a lot of people weren't understanding about how well how
01:54:29.440 are corporations being able to push these mandates on the people uh and onto their employers but
01:54:35.020 Ladies and gentlemen, there's something a lot of people missed out, and I think the Citizens Inquiry missed out on this as well, was the paying of foreign workers and migrant workers and immigrant workers on these corporations are half government funded.
01:54:50.060 So the government pays half of their wage while the corporation and the company only had to pay half of their wage.
01:54:55.440 therefore there's the tie to the government and that is what was being why these institutions
01:55:01.140 these businesses were pushing it on to the uh the workers and why they were making it mandatory
01:55:07.080 and trying to say well you'll lose your job is because the government was putting their
01:55:11.060 their heels on the corporations that had out like um migrant workers immigrant workers working for
01:55:18.080 them through the immigration program and different situations happening in different countries and 0.63
01:55:23.800 And that, you know, and using these different formulas, they were able to step on the throats of people.
01:55:30.460 I mean, if we look at the vaccine uptake in the last three months, excuse me, or four months in this country, it's 15 percent, 15 percent of people.
01:55:39.960 Now, you still see people with the masks on alone in their cars every now and again.
01:55:44.900 It's not that prevalent anymore as it was two or three years ago.
01:55:49.480 But you guys are obvious.
01:55:51.460 Go ahead.
01:55:51.800 sorry you also had i can't forget this one you have dan hartman whose own son passed away and
01:55:58.700 in the in the analysis of the pre the previous autopsy it came back as oh the government said
01:56:06.240 no there's no no nothing wrong here so he goes and gets a secondary autopsy and it's everything
01:56:11.360 dr shoemaker said there was advanced spike proteins caught in the adrenal glam which was
01:56:16.800 the main adjuster for the the young gentleman's uh blood pressure and everything and and the young
01:56:22.340 man died you've got the government failing to provide this so i i don't know i'm kind of going
01:56:27.080 off on it but uh dr shoemaker dna in this you've got other things that are disgusting that are in
01:56:34.040 this carcinogenic cancer causing things what is the nci going to do now are we able to arrest them
01:56:40.920 like there's got to be something there's got to be something now we got to get all the evidence
01:56:45.680 I'm sorry, Doc, go ahead.
01:56:48.940 May I just speak on behalf of the NCI to an extent?
01:56:51.340 I was certainly a speaker into them.
01:56:52.840 I testified under oath for 45 minutes.
01:56:55.320 But the NCI does not have arrest powers.
01:56:58.000 The NCI at best has recommendary powers.
01:57:01.480 And ultimately, it's up to police and lawyers to look at the real facts as to what are really happening
01:57:07.180 and the fact that Canadians were not allowed to have anything but coercion onto them.
01:57:12.140 the people who were mandated to take shots means by definition they were coerced and if you are
01:57:17.800 coerced you means you are not giving your true permission for it it means you're being falsely
01:57:22.820 forced to take it and mandates created a sense of forced agreement not true permission
01:57:31.000 well the nci in itself i'm sorry odessa go ahead oh go you you keep going because yours
01:57:38.160 has more to do with what you're talking about i'll talk after all i was going to say was the nci
01:57:43.440 as dr shoemaker points out uh at best has recommendation powers and not even that
01:57:48.800 they are asking the people of canada to forward their final uh report their final recommendations
01:57:56.500 which i believe ken drysdale told me contains over 2 000 to local law enforcement to rcmp to
01:58:04.520 their mps to their mlas to their counselors anybody who can get this to the powers that need
01:58:11.020 to see it we know what happened with that whistleblower in new zealand i'm sure you guys
01:58:15.760 are all aware of that this guy came out with the actual findings about what this formula was doing
01:58:24.540 and he released them to the world they arrested him for this and they held him in jail for what
01:58:31.280 was it six days and i'm surprised they ever let him out again i thought that this guy was never
01:58:36.580 going to see the light of day again we need this to happen in every country on the planet that had
01:58:42.900 a vaccine if he was that gentleman in new zealand if i could interrupt if he was in canada he would
01:58:47.680 still be in jail they have the rule of law in new zealand apparently greater than we have here
01:58:53.180 interesting and pat can attest to that odessa you were you were going to say well it was to do
01:58:59.000 This is something we, you know, Dr. Chris Schumacher was talking about.
01:59:02.180 But, you know, we want to see all these people in jail.
01:59:05.180 But coincidentally, have you guys heard about how Pfizer has just completed a $43 billion acquisition of Seagin on December 14, 2023?
01:59:19.100 They become the largest oncology company to treat most turbo cancers now.
01:59:25.200 so pfizer is just you know their stocks are dropping nobody wants the mrna so they've
01:59:32.040 got an acquired segan to treat turbo cancers well that's what dr peter mccullough was saying
01:59:39.280 which is completely ridiculous pfizer causes the problem they now say they're going to fix
01:59:49.020 and nobody bats an eye what how's that for a business plan pretty smart business plan
01:59:55.720 bill gates getting 20 fold on every dollar that he invested in vaccines unbelievable yeah so let's
02:00:03.200 talk about 2024 uh i know odessa has already answered uh what she thinks is going to happen
02:00:09.200 and what she's been hearing that's going to happen chris daisy uh not chris shoemaker chris
02:00:15.560 Stacey, what is your opinion as to what's going to happen in the new year?
02:00:20.280 Yeah, I mean, I have some of the same concerns, perhaps, about, I mean, I don't have any insider knowledge,
02:00:25.900 but there's a lot of talk, and, you know, we're so dependent on constant high-speed broadband connections
02:00:31.840 that there's a number of ways that a whole lot of things could go south really quickly.
02:00:36.800 You know, as far as just for me and what I see, I see in Ottawa, I see the, you know,
02:00:43.800 there's always a thin veneer kind of over society that for a long time you could ignore. What I see
02:00:48.400 is more and more people and the problems in Ottawa getting worse and worse. I've seen 10 cities now
02:00:53.800 just across the border in Gatineau, more and more people overdosing every weekend and a problem
02:00:59.040 that's affecting more and more people. I don't see that getting any better. I see more and more
02:01:04.880 people are going to be, whether they want to awaken to this or not, are not going to have a
02:01:09.840 choice because when it affects you, it affects your family or there's so much going on in the
02:01:13.440 streets that you can't ignore it um that's going to going to make a difference um it's hard for me
02:01:18.780 to really to say what to expect but as far as what i'm going to do i'm just going to try to be in the
02:01:21.980 right place in the right time and uh and show what i can from here um trying to get my legs under me
02:01:26.740 and i think i'm kind of finding my place a little bit so i'm just going to keep going and that's a
02:01:31.260 steep learning curve but uh i mean i think there's going to be going to be a lot of stuff for for me
02:01:35.680 to keep an eye on and cover here in ottawa for sure let me let me just say to you uh i love the
02:01:40.440 work that you've been doing for the past couple of years uh and i think the entire panel is yeah
02:01:45.880 man because seriously like you get your nose right in there and you don't back down and that takes
02:01:52.760 so much courage what is the most terrifying thing that's happened to you in the last couple years
02:01:58.840 i mean if we go all the way back to the convoy the thing the thing that really shook me the most
02:02:03.720 is was shortly after the uh the convoy got violently pushed out of ottawa um you know i
02:02:08.740 wasn't really a known guy back then i started streaming some stuff but i was a local and i was
02:02:13.180 making some noise and and i was still here after the convoy left and now that was right around the
02:02:18.120 time where acting uh acting police chief uh dealt was it he came out and made a statement where
02:02:24.060 basically he said he was going to use all police resources he could he basically threatened all
02:02:27.580 canadians said he was going to chase them down and i kind of made a public statement uh not really
02:02:32.200 very happy about that um said my name i was down live on bank street and i went home and within
02:02:37.200 minutes of getting home it was a on my door and there was two auto police officers right at my
02:02:42.580 door like like within minutes so that uh that honestly probably shook me the most out of
02:02:46.800 everything that's happened um to know that that they already know who they knew who i was i was
02:02:50.880 a nobody they knew who i was they knew where i lived um i'd actually been posting like i didn't
02:02:55.260 even have a sim card in my phone at the time i'm posting from uh from wi-fi you know and using a
02:02:59.720 vp and they still knew who i was where i was so that uh that shook me pretty hard even worse than
02:03:03.860 the violence i witnessed uh from the police action that probably shook me the most
02:03:07.200 And since then, I mean, it's I was pretty emotional and took me a long time to get over some of the some of the emotion and the trauma and to be face to face with police and so many different things took me a while to to kind of get over that initial triggering.
02:03:21.760 But now now that I do it, I mean, the reps help.
02:03:25.240 It's kind of like exposure therapy, right?
02:03:27.380 I've done it enough times.
02:03:28.400 I'm kind of able to do it with a much clearer mind.
02:03:30.920 And I think I've been a lot more successful because of the reps and because of putting myself in there.
02:03:35.300 And, you know, I find the lines.
02:03:36.420 I know how far I can go.
02:03:38.360 I know how close I can get.
02:03:39.380 And I've had some really good people helping me out,
02:03:41.500 mentoring me and giving me advice along the way that's helped me.
02:03:45.000 Yeah, man, you've been doing a great job.
02:03:46.740 Thank you for all the pictures you've been sending from Ottawa.
02:03:49.580 They have become vital in shows like mine,
02:03:52.520 because when it comes to talking about events that happen in the nation's
02:03:56.180 capital, I'm not going to be using any of the left-wing corporate media stuff.
02:04:00.480 I'll tell you that right now, because we know who that favors.
02:04:02.700 What you do is you give us a true picture of the event that's going on.
02:04:06.420 And it seems to me anyway that you really don't care if you become injured or hurt.
02:04:13.180 Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm not so worried about getting injured.
02:04:17.800 I've been lucky.
02:04:18.540 I can't believe, honestly, I stayed out of jail, like doing some of the stuff with Save Canada.
02:04:21.660 And the guys, man, I've seen all kinds of my friends get thrown in paddy wagons and then attacked.
02:04:26.340 And I've seen, you know, I had a friend of mine get tased recently on Wellington Street.
02:04:30.720 I've managed to avoid some of the worst of that.
02:04:33.080 But I do get it pretty hard from haters in the public.
02:04:35.800 you know my my face is plastered on posters all over downtown i have people that drive by total
02:04:41.000 strangers that scream at me and tell me to f off my name police will flash you know they'll beep at
02:04:45.880 me tell me you know give me the finger like it's pretty wild scene but uh i mean they've done what
02:04:50.680 they can to me and i'm still going in fact i i've learned and it's made me a much better person
02:04:54.200 honestly when you have your entire past and everything you do under such scrutiny it's uh
02:04:57.880 it's actually kind of freeing um so i'm gonna keep doing what i do and these you know honestly
02:05:03.080 the reps and the attacks, they make me better. So I don't think I'm going to slow down. I think
02:05:08.020 I'm going to be a little more targeted and a little more, you know, I'm coming at it with
02:05:12.400 a bit of a plan and a bit of an idea now instead of just standing there hoping to figure it out.
02:05:17.200 So I think I'm getting it. This brings me to an interesting point. None of us have really talked
02:05:23.900 about the negative things that we've been through in the past three or four years because we stick
02:05:31.800 our faces out there because we stand up for what's right. People have obviously been trying
02:05:39.740 to admonish, humiliate, embarrass, even imprison some of us. Odessa, have you had anything like
02:05:46.940 that happen? I mean, this is the first time you and I have had a chance to speak during my show
02:05:52.200 or your show. What are some of the things that have happened to you? Well, in listening to all
02:05:57.240 you guys you know i'm teary because you a lot of you've had to be in jail or or you're gonna go
02:06:02.820 back to jail or you might be in jail i live in vancouver so um the hell that i've been put
02:06:09.580 through but i don't really care is not jail because vancouver they allowed us to protest
02:06:14.540 allowed the vpd did not arrest us they were the only unvaxed squad that they weren't mandated to
02:06:22.080 vax um so we were lucky in that it as long as we stayed peaceful everyone left us alone in
02:06:28.620 Vancouver but my husband and I Norb um once I started doing speeches and once Liberty our
02:06:36.740 social media started to get a little bit of traction every single newspaper has done hit
02:06:41.600 pieces on me um sometimes mentioning my husband but I mean my family they can't go on global news
02:06:48.800 Vancouver Sun we've been dragged through the mud articles about our social media that were a bunch
02:06:55.460 of right-wing conspiracy misogynist homophobes whatever they can say and so and it's not been
02:07:03.480 just all in one day over the last three years like I'll wake up I've actually woken up I drifted
02:07:09.140 asleep watching a show I woke up I'm like why is my voice on the news and they're dragging up
02:07:15.260 something i said like eight months ago um and you know they do things like i went to
02:07:22.000 a very peaceful protest uh in my area because one of the drag queens they were hiring to uh 0.50
02:07:29.100 work with toddlers um was doing hardcore porn on you know instagram and all that and the it's easy
02:07:38.900 to find his name so somebody brought that to our attention so someone else through you know a
02:07:44.780 protest about this man woman and why they shouldn't be around children, because the kids could actually
02:07:50.400 get access to the porn easily if they just put his name in. And so all I said was, why are we
02:07:57.140 subjecting our children? Why are we sexualizing our children at such a young age? That's all I said.
02:08:04.760 And so there was this big hit piece done saying, the reason why the Trudeau government is going to
02:08:10.600 now give another million dollars to the gay pride event that happens here in Vancouver is because of
02:08:16.900 people like this woman and then it's me saying stop sexualizing children and it's just like my 0.99
02:08:23.620 poor family they can't get away from the hit pieces they continue to do on my husband and I 0.64
02:08:30.300 but they've kind of stopped now and so you know I'll get rattled for about 20 minutes have a 1.00
02:08:36.380 margarita then go fuck i don't give a fuck because i know i'm going to the pearly gates of heaven 0.99
02:08:41.960 and so but with language like that sweetheart oh yeah i know that i it's i'm sorry but um 1.00
02:08:52.380 i and then i think i don't have anything to complain about i'm not sitting like the coots four
02:08:59.080 are because that could have happened to any of us in a heartbeat and so i i think about these guys
02:09:08.420 and i have nothing to complain about yeah the coots four are not with proper medical care jason
02:09:14.900 levine and i had an extensive program in which we talked about the lack of proper dietary and
02:09:20.020 medical care going on for these men as they approach 24 or more months in prison and they
02:09:25.640 don't even have a court date yet it's absolutely unconscionable i have conversations with them too
02:09:35.980 they give me a call uh every once in a while and just to see how they're doing and man this is nuts
02:09:42.380 it's absolutely insane what they're doing to them um but i know that a lot of the tactics that they
02:09:47.900 used on them just in speaking with them they've used the same similar tactics towards me so we've
02:09:54.960 been kind of helping each other out and i've told them what i've been dealing with what they did to
02:09:59.420 me and then uh they they the gentleman a couple of them were saying that's the exact same thing
02:10:04.820 they did to us so then i said okay well i did this try this with your lawyers or try this
02:10:09.580 and uh we're i'm trying to help as much as i can uh with what i can and what aspect that i can help
02:10:17.020 in um but the thing i keep hearing from those guys is we know why we're here pat we're here
02:10:23.560 for a reason and the reason is uh we thank you everybody for the concerns and everything but
02:10:29.360 we're here for a reason and they're gonna they're gonna get it out they're gonna they're gonna either
02:10:34.420 one get taken by the 11b jordan act or two they're going to just uh the courts will just drop the
02:10:42.780 charges period because insufficient evidence mind you i don't know exactly what the evidence is
02:10:48.740 but i do know some of it that is there uh there's some undercover police officers that decided to
02:10:57.520 flash their uh their cleavages which is a form of entrapment in in my mind um and uh they decided
02:11:05.540 that's how they were going to get them by waving the old uh the old elusive carrot in front of
02:11:10.620 them and some of the guys got vocal i guess and that that i i'm not going to speak much more onto
02:11:16.760 that but just for them but it's uh it's it's disgusting what they're doing the canadian
02:11:23.100 citizens to these guys to uh james salary you know he runs over a pylon oh my god this officer
02:11:29.140 now is like ptsd for the rest of his life because a pylon went at him um it's it's unreal but i i
02:11:37.380 not trying to steal anybody's thunder i do got to go um shadow so i want to give you my prediction
02:11:43.100 and everybody thank you so much for having us in here um and i think this is phenomenal um i i think
02:11:50.840 you and i should talk shadow with regards to i want to do a nationwide tour with a panel such as
02:11:55.540 this on on a on a on a tour on a on a tour across canada if not the states as well um and i i look
02:12:03.060 forward to possibly doing something like that but my prediction goes along with odessa's there is
02:12:07.960 going to be a false flag coming a false flag is inevitable um covid didn't work for them so now
02:12:14.240 they're going to do something else to ramp it up to keep people scared they got to keep you in that
02:12:19.540 scared frightened stage because the second you have power and you're you're in like you know
02:12:23.540 you've got that freedom to hey i'm going to take a stand um they're going to cut you down a couple
02:12:28.220 notches but i do know this anybody who's anybody who knows the political spectrum that that's going
02:12:34.100 on where you see you got Pierre Polyev pandering to the crowd. You've got Justin Trudeau saying
02:12:39.940 that he's not going to back down. There is something coming in that. I'd like to say that
02:12:45.860 there is criminal charges, but I can't speak on that. But there is a changing of the guard
02:12:53.360 that's going to happen, but nothing is going to change. Nothing. They aren't going to help us.
02:13:00.000 they are not going to stop this they have an end goal of 2030 and they are going for it they don't
02:13:05.580 care so you're we're just mere speed bumps in their path to the end of this and unfortunately
02:13:12.560 there's going to be one of two things there's either going to be a civil stand-up group of
02:13:19.340 people and I'm picking my words very carefully on the basis of fundraising purposes only
02:13:25.300 um but there is going to be a civil uprising uh south of the border they're already laying it in
02:13:33.380 the movies they're already talking about this one movie it's called the civil war
02:13:36.920 yeah and that's pre pre uh what do they call it um pre predictive programming predictive
02:13:44.500 programming yeah so that one's coming up and uh and i think that's just laying the foundations
02:13:49.200 of what's next to come and that's going to be a world war three on canadian soil it always has
02:13:54.320 been deemed in north america they are want to take down us they want to take down the united
02:13:58.320 states i think they're ramping up and that's what i see so if you got bug out bags folks get them 0.98
02:14:04.220 ready hold them to the side and uh if you got to go go i'm out merry christmas you filthy animals
02:14:12.240 happy new year to each and every one of you guys all know that i'm still here i'm not out but i'm
02:14:18.580 still here i'm still here thanks we love you brother we love you thank you for coming out
02:14:23.400 tonight uh pat king everybody he's saying goodbye uh greg wycliffe joins the show greg thank you
02:14:29.200 for coming on the show tonight really appreciate it you have some kind of a christmas party a family
02:14:33.420 event that you're joining just now it's been two hours for goodness can you guys hear me okay
02:14:37.160 yeah we got you okay cool uh no i just decided to throw on a collared shirt you know i love to
02:14:42.960 present well when i'm on the shadow show shadow davis oh my gosh um no it's uh it's it's been
02:14:50.900 quite the year and yeah i don't know do you want me to run into predictions right away or what no
02:14:56.240 no no we we uh we've been talking about what's happened what's yet to come uh some personal
02:15:03.060 predicaments uh you know we've had uh some great people on the show already i saw leighton just
02:15:08.520 turned off his uh his camera there i wanted to ask him a question maybe jason you could answer
02:15:13.320 this one there was a ruling recently by a supreme court of ontario justice regarding the usage of
02:15:21.200 the word groomer saying we can no longer use that because it is in fact a slur and punitive against
02:15:30.680 the person we're using it against uh layton i'm sorry did you we talked about this on x so i'm
02:15:36.900 talking to jason uh and you layton about this ruling from the supreme uh justice one of the
02:15:43.240 supreme justices of ontario who used the word uh who said the word groomer was a smear and so we
02:15:52.100 can't use that without being slapped with some kind of a lawsuit and yet the other side can
02:15:58.780 continue to use the words racist bigot newspapers as odessa was just talking about can go ahead and
02:16:06.780 smear anybody and i know several school board trustees that have been smeared across the
02:16:11.420 country by left-wing corporate media and they don't have to fear any reprisal why such a double
02:16:18.380 standard and why would a judge a supreme uh sorry a superior court justice in ontario come to a
02:16:24.780 decision like that anyway they're supposed to be interpreting laws not making them right yeah well
02:16:30.940 sorry can you hear me okay yes yeah so not surprisingly uh this lady judge was a
02:16:37.480 a 2018 appointment of the trudeau government so for those of you who missed the national
02:16:43.940 post article that came out last summer actually there's a series of of them um 80 percent of the
02:16:49.740 judges who have been appointed throughout canada superior court judges who have been appointed
02:16:54.160 throughout canada in the trudeau era since 2015 80 of them are not only uh card carrying members
02:17:00.380 of the Liberal Party of Canada, they're donors.
02:17:02.500 They're Liberal Party donors.
02:17:04.300 So I've written and I've talked about this extensively,
02:17:07.800 this concept of judicial activism,
02:17:09.920 which is happening everywhere in Canada.
02:17:14.020 And what we're seeing is, unfortunately,
02:17:17.000 judges, in the absence of proper and principled political leadership,
02:17:23.040 are taking it upon themselves to shape the views
02:17:28.100 and the values of Canadians.
02:17:30.380 So, for example, if you think about the situation with with transgender people, if you go back to the genesis of the Charter, the intention of the Charter and, you know, the frames of the Charter, you know, talked about this a lot back in 1982, back in 1981, 1982.
02:17:48.940 too, and Brian Peckford talks about this. They were very concerned, those premiers, those wise men,
02:17:55.400 about the court expanding the scope of the enumerated charter rights. In other words,
02:18:02.220 what they wanted to do, the reason why we have a specific number of described charter rights,
02:18:08.900 discrete charter rights, is because they didn't want to hand over power to courts to create a
02:18:13.880 whole panoply of rights but what we've seen uh in the charter era gradually over the past 40 years
02:18:20.140 but especially in the last decade or so is the court sort of reading down the rights which are
02:18:25.400 enumerated and set out in the charter and instead creating new ones and so for example this has been
02:18:32.420 this is what's happened with the transgender community with gay marriage it's it's happened
02:18:38.140 And obviously with indigenous peoples, all these different categories of rights, which don't actually exist in the charter, the Supreme Court has taken upon itself to create them.
02:18:52.840 And so this is really an inversion of what the role of the courts is supposed to be. 0.62
02:18:59.500 What the role of the courts is supposed to be is the law, especially the common law, sort of lags behind society and culture and politics.
02:19:06.880 and it tries to make sense of events in the aftermath
02:19:10.900 and sort of translate them into law.
02:19:13.800 And if you see, for example, after the Spanish flu epidemic
02:19:17.360 of the early 20th century, you'll see a series of laws
02:19:21.300 that came along after that, health-rated laws,
02:19:23.480 trying to make sense of this.
02:19:24.900 What's happening right now is the courts are out front
02:19:27.320 and arguably the judges in this country are the most powerful people
02:19:33.400 in the entire country.
02:19:34.560 They are undemocratically appointed. They are chosen primarily based upon their diversity, inclusion, equity criteria. They all have some degree of competency in the law, obviously, but primarily they're being appointed for the diversity, inclusion, equity requirements.
02:19:55.560 In fact, most recently, the most recent judge who was appointed, Mary Morrow from Alberta, our Minister of Justice in Ottawa, he said that a big part of that appointment was because he wants to see a majority of judges on the Supreme Court of Canada being women.
02:20:14.200 well i think if if the majority if if the majority of judges in alberta uh of really good judges if 0.98
02:20:23.280 our best judges are women i don't care if all of them are women but i don't think we should be
02:20:27.800 selected judges on the base simply because a person is a woman or they're black or they're
02:20:33.140 gay or they're transgender or whatever but unfortunately this comes back to my earlier
02:20:37.100 comment about how we're not doing justice in canada the the goal has been subverted to this
02:20:43.000 marxist idea of social justice and we're we're setting priorities uh for judges and the judicial
02:20:48.960 system and we're pre we're pre-picking uh winners and losers so for example this case that uh that
02:20:56.460 greg just talked about in ontario or that you mentioned shadow um that winner was chosen uh
02:21:02.100 even before that case was heard uh we knew that how that case was going to go because
02:21:07.120 the judge uh made most important in that inquiry the politics uh the victimhood of of the person
02:21:14.760 involved and that was more important than the law and that was more important than what what our
02:21:19.420 what our sort of societal values are about what defamation is that was more important than our
02:21:25.160 free speech the the freedom to call someone a groomer um so that's kind of what's happening
02:21:30.380 in the law right now uh and unfortunately it's a very dangerous trend these people are not elected
02:21:35.800 They're appointed for life.
02:21:37.960 And as I said, they're being selected by the prime minister, by his office, primarily on the basis of their politics.
02:21:46.980 Anybody have any questions?
02:21:48.740 I've got one.
02:21:49.760 Anybody?
02:21:50.080 Yeah, I have one, actually.
02:21:52.200 That groomer case kind of caught my attention, particularly because I was curious about how this will apply broadly.
02:21:59.220 one of the big attacks on me from my work with uh with josh alexander and some of the young men
02:22:04.240 from safe canada is that the left and these people as a whole call me a groomer constantly
02:22:09.020 i mean they put up posters literally saying chris daisy is a groomer with my face on it and they
02:22:14.120 plaster it all over town so so what what happens with that i wonder will that a lot will that
02:22:20.220 protect me will i have some sort of recourse i wonder or will that you know i'm on the wrong
02:22:24.600 side so it doesn't matter it won't protect you at all they won't protect you at all because you
02:22:30.200 don't rank on the victim hierarchy okay yeah you're you i i don't know what your what your
02:22:35.920 racial heritage is you present as a white male uh and if you're entering middle age and you have
02:22:42.100 some degree of of success that is if you're financially secure uh it gets worse um if 0.50
02:22:49.540 you're heterosexual it gets worse still uh if you're thin and you're fit it gets worse still
02:22:54.880 uh basically the checking a lot of boxes the wrong way very it's very clear start wearing
02:23:01.380 that's so not fair because i'm the one salivating over ice cream every night and i don't do it
02:23:12.420 to stay thin and then i'm gonna be treated crappy can i just say one thing before i forget and then
02:23:17.980 i won't speak the rest of night because you got to get to greg i wanted to let you know i don't
02:23:22.240 know if leighton you know this um i hang out with the abbotsford crowd who are a lot of the east
02:23:27.640 indian mothers and fathers that are fighting soji and uh kanwaljeet singh just showed me something
02:23:34.700 where i don't know if it was just british columbia or federally that if you hand a um a pamphlet or
02:23:43.240 a flyer to anybody in the public who's thinking of transitioning and it's telling them all the
02:23:51.700 reasons why they shouldn't you can go to jail is that federally or provincially and apparently it
02:23:59.200 went through it's in the criminal code that's before yep before it was unanimous and again
02:24:05.220 for those of you who are you know big fans of the of the cpc and pierre polivier uh that that that
02:24:11.720 was unanimously a consented to that those amendments were the criminal code were not
02:24:16.420 opposed uh in parliament so that means uh scott nugent who's probably been on everybody's show
02:24:22.880 here who transitioned in america was on what is a woman is the biggest uh person who's saying
02:24:30.420 don't let kids do this this is everything wrong with me right now my body's a mess 0.79
02:24:35.480 i'm probably not going to live as long he's showing all the things wrong with his body he
02:24:40.080 used to be a woman and he's like i'm not a man i'm a trans man he regularly on twitter is showing
02:24:47.000 what's happening to his body because of what he did and uh is he gonna go to jail like this is
02:24:53.960 just getting to be just china yeah a good way to summarize that is essentially you know the law
02:25:02.260 dictates that you can encourage kids as much as you want to get transitioned you know hey step
02:25:07.880 right up you can be a boy you can switch it around but the second you say anything in the 0.80
02:25:13.040 other direction of like hey maybe you should pump the brakes there hey maybe this uh transgender 0.71
02:25:17.820 kids thing is not all typed up to be maybe there's a lot of consequences hey check out this like 0.70
02:25:22.160 anytime you try to push them in the other direction i believe it gets equated to the
02:25:26.640 same criminality as like uh cp or uh child coronography if i'm not mistaken um it's been
02:25:33.800 a while since i read c4 but it's absolutely absurd but i did want to speak to what we were
02:25:39.360 talking about chris daisy earlier and how he doesn't check the boxes i actually i actually
02:25:43.280 kind of disagree with with that notion because if chris was a drag queen it wouldn't actually 0.87
02:25:50.120 matter if he was a black lesbian it wouldn't matter because if he has the wrong politics
02:25:55.000 that's when they come after you it really doesn't like the rules don't apply equally right we know 0.98
02:26:02.540 this so i you know i do comedy and that sort of thing and i try to point out the hypocrisy and
02:26:08.080 i've kind of stopped doing that because i've realized the hypocrisy um you know it's we like
02:26:13.420 i get it it's there but they're never going to enforce these rules equally guys it's literally
02:26:19.000 about destroying us it's about destroying the people who think differently i don't care if
02:26:23.440 you're black white whatever hey but i'm black so that doesn't apply to me we don't care we don't 0.99
02:26:28.720 care we're gonna seize power we're gonna you know fuck up your life if it's um inconvenient for us 0.99
02:26:34.580 politically and i'm sure i don't have to give examples of of uh how this is the case um no bro 0.99
02:26:40.780 you were at the convoy i mean you you saw uh indian guys you saw black guys called white
02:26:48.100 supremacists that's right right that's right they're how do they even justify that um with 0.94
02:26:54.900 propaganda with propaganda and you know propaganda is the biggest most important thing in this fifth
02:27:02.200 generational warfare shadow uh odessa jason chris rob dare i mean we got a great like we got all
02:27:11.740 people who have our own channels here and it's like that this is we are soldiers in this fight
02:27:16.940 you know every little video you put out there it makes a huge huge difference and we need to
02:27:22.680 continue to build upon that um we i think it was gray you were mentioning earlier how it's like if
02:27:29.880 if hey if you if you're someone who likes pierre polyev i definitely don't like that guy and like
02:27:35.000 as a prediction um and as something that i know i help on this all the time but i my prediction is
02:27:41.500 that pierre polyev the conservative party could end up being our worst nightmare because since
02:27:46.480 the convoy he's essentially been um stealing our energy of freedom fighters and people who are
02:27:52.880 further right stealing our energy away and putting it right back behind the establishment they're
02:27:58.060 doing great at the conservative party of canada with their propaganda with like winning people's
02:28:02.480 attention back winning their winning their sort of support back and that's going to continue and
02:28:07.120 that's going to like we need to like really be hard against them like absolutely not like people
02:28:12.120 need to come out in droves i understand why people want to support pierre polyev because
02:28:17.620 it's the equivalent of grabbing a bag of chips and sitting on the couch and being like okay
02:28:22.300 things will be fine things will be fine you know i love my lace chips let me just kick up my feet
02:28:28.760 but um no no things are not fine we need to confront how bad things really are
02:28:34.920 and a very specific um i'll give one specific prediction now if we can like keep the conversation
02:28:40.580 going but this ubi thing everyone's saying oh my god universal basic income and people are pointing
02:28:46.400 out hey in the past the conservative party of canada has supported this specifically melissa
02:28:51.380 lansman has a clip on national post where she's like yeah ubi actually has a conservative angle
02:28:56.900 and she's got her kind of weird peacock haircut but um i think that this is going to be a perfect
02:29:03.520 setup to make the conservative party of canada do do exactly what i just said steal our energy away
02:29:08.980 put it back behind the establishment because once all of this alarmism rises about ubi all
02:29:14.980 the conservatives are freaking out rebel news true north all of us freaking out about ubi
02:29:18.740 pierre polyev is going to save the day and be like i am actually against ubi wow oh my god he's
02:29:25.340 totally our guy he's against ubi did you hear that it's like wow wow he's he's not going to
02:29:30.320 destroy the country what a conservative you know what i mean it's like like the bare minimum uh
02:29:35.300 for for this guy and like we all go crazy we need to stop kind of falling for this uh for this dance
02:29:40.360 that they're doing uh because it's the same thing that happened with uh parental rights oh he stood
02:29:45.380 up for parental right he did the bare minimum same thing with the uh with the vaccine mandates he
02:29:50.220 opposed vaccine mandates two years after the fact where the were you when i couldn't go to a
02:29:56.260 restaurant where the no you're right like anyway what he said about christine anderson too i found
02:30:02.740 alarming uh you know the way he threw her and his uh caucus the three members of the caucus
02:30:08.740 under the bus like calling her a nazi i mean that's you know i think he had but now this may
02:30:14.480 be just wishful thinking and you know my feelings on snap out of it shadow snap no no you you know
02:30:20.660 my feelings on this and and that is that i believe that we right now are headed at breakneck speed
02:30:27.360 for the Great Reset under Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland
02:30:31.220 and that wingnut climate guy we've got right now.
02:30:34.900 I can't remember his name, but he drives me crazy.
02:30:37.280 Gilbo.
02:30:38.720 Gilbo, yeah.
02:30:39.840 So these guys, they all believe in the platform.
02:30:43.020 What we've heard Polyev say on door-knocking trips
02:30:45.700 that I don't think he even knew was being recorded
02:30:47.480 is that Pierre Elliott Trudeau and Justin, they're Marxists.
02:30:51.580 That's what he has said.
02:30:53.200 I think a lot of the things he has done
02:30:55.160 have been for political purposes only.
02:30:56.980 I mean, how can you say to a population where 75 percent of the people believe that climate change is real, that you're going to come out and say, no, actually, it's not.
02:31:10.280 I mean, they're going to call you a heretic immediately and you'll go down from 41 percent support in the polls down to 21 percent if you're lucky.
02:31:19.400 So there's certain things you have to say for political expediency.
02:31:22.660 I don't disagree with you, Greg. But the problem is that aside from Polyev and the conservatives, we've only got Max Bernier and the PPC who are remarkably polling at two and three percent right now.
02:31:33.900 It's not going to happen, at least not under Max, until we get somebody like a Canadian version of Vivek Ramaswamy to come up and start saying the truth.
02:31:44.780 and i think the closest thing we have to that right now is a provincial premier danielle smith
02:31:50.340 and even then she still doesn't go far enough and leighton has pointed a couple of glaring
02:31:56.040 uh problems uh out with danielle smith tonight so what do you have to say i mean like
02:32:01.100 the ppc is not the answer i mean we got to keep holding the feet to the fire right
02:32:05.800 i uh i think that's that's a lie that we tell ourselves it's almost like you know we're at war
02:32:12.480 we're in the trenches and it's like we tell ourselves these lies to not like run out into
02:32:18.380 into the no man's land that lie is well he can't he can't talk about climate change i can't talk
02:32:24.780 about climate change that's going to make me go down in the polls i don't think that's true at
02:32:28.620 all if if pierre polyev were to say that what would be what would happen a lot of people would
02:32:36.700 love it his base i think so too his base would love it like this is this is i think this is such
02:32:42.960 a lie that that we get told of oh no he can't talk about the pandemic he can't talk about mass
02:32:47.760 migration even though it's totally related to the housing crisis he can't talk about the political
02:32:51.820 political prisoners yeah yeah don't worry every single egregious example of the canadian government
02:32:56.920 acting authoritarian for some reason he's you know we can't talk about that that's going to be
02:33:01.580 bad in the media and that's the thing we haven't had the fake news effect here in canada like we
02:33:06.460 have in the states because trump showed up and said f you i don't care i'm not even just going
02:33:12.480 to reduce immigration i'm going to build a wall but the point is the media attacked him the media
02:33:16.520 attacked him the media attacked him four years later the credibility of the media is in the
02:33:20.440 toilet that should have happened more so after the trucker convoy but for whatever reason
02:33:25.380 you know pierre polyev and his team they can they kind of they got that they got all that
02:33:29.820 anti-establishment energy roundabout what right back uh behind the establishment but
02:33:34.980 this idea that we can't say that this is this is part of our canadiana sort of too nice attitude
02:33:40.780 that we need to just leave behind man we just need to start telling the truth and people are
02:33:47.540 going to respond to that i've if you talk to regular people they're ready for it man they
02:33:51.860 are they are so yeah like this billboard chris and i had a fantastic discussion a few weeks ago
02:33:59.360 regarding uh you know grooming of children in public schools libraries and whatnot and what i
02:34:05.720 said to him was can they come out and say this he goes it's a winner i stand on street corners
02:34:12.360 every single day in cities all over the world and what i can tell you is that 99 percent of people
02:34:19.640 agree with me that this should not be going on a man is a man a woman is a woman and so on and so
02:34:26.760 on and yet for whatever reason polyev won't touch that one either which is one he knows he can win
02:34:33.380 the other stuff i mean there has been like with the climate change look man i i agree with you
02:34:39.740 but i don't know that you can pull this off and i'll give you a reason i walked into a gas station
02:34:45.280 for a pack of gum the other day because some breath was going on and and there was a guy
02:34:49.580 stocking the chip stand with whatever barbecue chips and it's really unseasonably warm here
02:34:57.220 in manitoba right now i think it's like zero one degree whatever and this guy is talking to this
02:35:03.960 newcomer this is this guy who just arrived in canada who's working behind the counter and he
02:35:09.580 said oh it's never like this here in manitoba in december it's the climate change i tell you it's
02:35:14.940 the climate change guy looked normal to me he looked like just a regular dude and i looked over
02:35:20.260 at him and i said you don't know that what's the matter with you i mean and by the way it's been 0.96
02:35:28.420 warmer than this on this date in this province before so shut up you don't know what you're 0.54
02:35:36.700 talking about right and the guy looked at me like and then he just walked out went and sat in his 0.65
02:35:44.040 truck and looked at his buddy who was sitting in the truck with him and pointed at me when i walked
02:35:48.660 out the door so i gave him one of those and good for you it seemed it seemed to me well that's
02:35:55.440 i've been doing a lot more of that lately because you know people with masks on right people who sit
02:36:00.960 there and talk about the vaccine still i don't know what his problem is he won't go get the shot
02:36:06.040 like are you serious you're still talking about this we need to start working on this as you point
02:36:12.400 out earlier with every show with every video we do we're the ones and and when i say we i'm talking
02:36:18.440 about you guys who are watching this right now as well on whatever platform you're watching it on
02:36:23.100 we're the ones who are responsible for getting this word out and spreading it around and waking
02:36:29.280 these people up in the first place so the politicians are still electable when they go
02:36:33.820 out and say these things or else because in canada we haven't got this option in the united states
02:36:38.980 they still had some regular media on cable and they're still allowed to say things online because
02:36:45.400 there is no bill c18 down there there's no bill c11 down there there's no mute bills there's no
02:36:50.520 shut up bills right they can still say things we're under heavy restriction here heavy restriction
02:36:57.740 uh i'm getting muted on certain platforms i'm on facebook doesn't know what i'm talking about now 0.53
02:37:03.700 they could be lying or it could be government intervention i don't know but the bottom line
02:37:08.640 is we are severely restricted here in the things we can say and the things we can get out to people 0.53
02:37:13.500 and therefore the only thing left to them is the marxist corporate media so then it's got to be 0.85
02:37:19.420 word on the street right and until then what politician is going to have the balls to get
02:37:24.040 out and say anything well if i could segue on that shadow because this is my big prediction for
02:37:28.880 2024 and that is i think that uh sorry for the ranting there by the way i didn't mean to
02:37:35.740 Totally ties into what I wanted to say in terms of my big prediction.
02:37:40.280 That is, I think we're going to continue to see explosive growth of alternative media in Canada.
02:37:46.440 And the reason why I say this is for a couple of reasons.
02:37:49.240 Firstly, the Americans are more aware of what's going on in Canada than they have been for a very long time.
02:37:58.840 That started with the convoy.
02:38:00.260 But think about some of the comments that Tucker Carlson has made about Canada, about Justin Trudeau. Vivek Ramaswamy recently said something during the Republican GOP debates about Canada, called Canada a totalitarian regime.
02:38:16.620 In Alberta, we have Tucker Carlson is coming to Edmonton and Calgary next month. Ben Shapiro was here in Calgary last month. There's a conference in Victoria called the We Unify. And this is organized by a wonderful friend of mine, a lawyer in Victoria.
02:38:37.660 And they're going to have Dave Rubin hosting that conference. Ben Shapiro is coming to that conference. So I think that what's going to happen in 2024 is I think there's going to be huge growth in Canada of this, let's call it conservative alternative media, that's going to be fueled by the growth of that in the United States.
02:39:03.360 And I think it's going to have a significant impact on what you and Greg were just talking about, because part of the reason why Pierre Polivier can't get up in front of a microphone, I shouldn't say can't, or perhaps won't get up in front of a microphone, and say something like, you know, man-made climate change is ridiculous because CO2 makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere, is because he's going to get pilloried by the only existing media.
02:39:25.940 In the United States, they've got the Daily Wire.
02:39:28.100 They've got Fox.
02:39:28.880 They've got other platforms that are growing.
02:39:31.480 They've got the Rogan show.
02:39:33.640 I believe that you're seeing this growth in Canada.
02:39:37.280 I think it's going to continue to grow organically with the destruction of the lame media, as I call them, in Canada.
02:39:47.020 So that's my big prediction for 2024.
02:39:49.140 And I think that's going to have multiple repercussions for the Canadian political landscape and for Canadian society.
02:39:57.040 I think people are turning more and more to people like Shadow Davis and some of the other people in this call, True North, Rebel, the people who are supporting and reporting truth in media, the independent journalists who are just doing it, you know, because they have a dog in the fight.
02:40:15.060 They believe in truth.
02:40:15.920 They believe in preserving some semblance of what is Canadian, what are Canadian values.
02:40:22.240 So I think that's my big prediction for 2024.
02:40:24.680 Maybe this sounds like Pollyanna whistling in the dark, but I think that's what's coming.
02:40:31.820 I love it.
02:40:32.800 I love hearing that.
02:40:34.400 Derek, you had your hand up.
02:40:36.900 Well, I just wanted to chime in when people were saying, you know, there's no politicians that'll come out and speak to the things that are concerning for people.
02:40:44.820 I kind of wanted to share my experience, especially since I announced that I was running for mayor in Calgary.
02:40:51.420 Now, I had made that announcement last or this last March after a joke tweet.
02:40:57.240 I tweeted out to Jody Gondek saying, I think I could run the city better than you can.
02:41:03.220 And I don't even have any experience.
02:41:05.340 And it was after a meeting with Jordan Peterson where he says, well, were you serious about that?
02:41:09.780 And I kind of said no.
02:41:11.280 And he said, well, could you be?
02:41:12.520 Because this is where change happens.
02:41:14.440 is at the municipal level you can't change federally until you start changing lower on the
02:41:19.620 scale where the decisions actually affect people's lives more day-to-day than than federal politics
02:41:24.760 so i i recklessly threw my hat in the ring but i've reached out to some people who used to be
02:41:29.720 in politics who are more right-leaning and i'll tell you right now that i'm not going to name
02:41:34.400 names because that's what they've said is their personal business but anytime i've spoken to them
02:41:39.600 and we've talked about hey we got to start looking at fundraising plans we've got to start looking
02:41:43.080 how we get these things you know prepared because i don't want to go into this as a publicity stunt
02:41:47.320 i want to make it serious and they say well what are your policies i said i want to take away the
02:41:51.480 the the rules of no protesting uh drag queen shows and they said well why would you want to do that
02:41:57.640 you're not going to get any brownie points with that i said i don't want brownie points i'm a
02:42:01.000 canadian citizen i'm a calgarian i don't want this in my town and i think a lot of people want that
02:42:06.600 to change that this should be an 18 or over thing and they says well i don't know if i can help you
02:42:11.480 you get funding if you're not going to if you're not going to tone that down a bit i said no no
02:42:15.240 you don't understand the reason i'm running is because i've been in the same boat as every
02:42:19.160 calgarian who's had to decide do i put food in the fridge or pay my utility bill i've sat and
02:42:24.520 watched continual liberal mayors with spending problems and i said my job if i if i were to get
02:42:30.720 any form of a mandate although friends like keith wilson tell me that's going to be an amazingly
02:42:35.180 difficult uphill battle my job would be to make those people's lives in city hall miserable
02:42:41.140 for the next four years to absolutely ride their coattails and say i'm not here for a fun little
02:42:47.360 holiday or to make friends i'm here to get things done that are actually going to benefit real
02:42:52.560 people and end all of this nonsense i i said you know i think jody gondek was placed i don't think
02:42:58.800 she was installed i don't think she was 175 000 votes in a in a city of 1.6 million forget it
02:43:04.840 and because well you can't say those things why not you know and that's where i have the problem
02:43:10.320 is nobody wants to come forward and and put the gusto down and like even guys like marty up north
02:43:16.340 when i said i was gonna run oh i wouldn't do that why not well because i gotta put my name out there
02:43:21.320 i got people judging me all the time i said well maybe that's part of the problem you're not willing
02:43:25.220 to i have nothing to lose which is why i'm gonna do what i'm doing but and i'm telling you right
02:43:30.900 now i'm going balls to the wall because i don't know that it looked like pretty uh some pretty
02:43:35.480 nice pinball machines and video games back there uh that you might have to sell to everything's
02:43:43.420 replaceable no man i totally appreciate what you're saying and i think in alberta you know i
02:43:51.400 think it's the last bastion of what we knew as normal let's go back even 10 years you know i
02:43:58.340 saw a meme the other day and it's a man and a woman uh driving in a car and and she looks at
02:44:04.940 him and says are you uh a right-wing extremist and dude says no i'm just a normal dude from 20 years
02:44:11.640 ago right and i think that's where alberta is right now not with progress and infrastructure
02:44:18.300 you guys are way ahead of the curve but when it comes to just wanting normal back wanting common
02:44:23.620 sense back i think alberta is the last hope the last bastion in canada and i believe the media
02:44:30.160 there reflects that calgary more so than edmonton obviously calgary herald i've i've read some
02:44:37.360 articles from opinion uh writers in the calgary herald like oh wow this is still it sounds like
02:44:43.860 the west to me you've got the western standard a lot of people in alberta follow that so i think
02:44:48.980 that yeah you know derek you could probably say more things like that in alberta like danielle
02:44:54.380 smith can say more things like that in alberta you take them outside of alberta and put them in
02:44:59.780 in a place like manitoba or god forbid ontario or quebec and you're going to be having a problem
02:45:05.540 and not in the rural areas but in the big metro areas toronto montreal ottawa vancouver right
02:45:13.960 those are the cities that that keep winning the liberals minority governments and i think in
02:45:20.020 calgary you have a real good chance i think elsewhere in the country things are a little
02:45:23.780 bit different that's only my opinion obviously uh jay i was just going to say i think what people
02:45:30.800 forget and where it's all going to start is one city like when you look at what chris chris guy
02:45:35.500 did with his uh his running i think if one city can get through and and we can see one city change
02:45:42.320 to to a more 20 years ago type stature i think that's when you're going to see more of it catch
02:45:48.700 on kind of like fuel on a fire what people tend to forget and what i think people need to be
02:45:52.580 reminded of whether it's municipal provincial or federal all of these people work for you
02:45:58.380 not the other way around and and and it's been forgotten it seems over the last maybe 20 years
02:46:04.580 uh especially when we see governments who skate on policies and have scandal after scandal that
02:46:10.000 that no we should we should really be getting a little bit more louder with this stuff and we
02:46:15.220 should be asking why not when you mention the middle finger at the gas station more people
02:46:19.280 need to start telling people shut up i don't want to hear what you have to say anymore like i don't
02:46:24.120 want to be rude but i also don't have to take what you're saying as as law you know i agree
02:46:29.240 and that we got to get back to normal that's what greg was saying earlier you know when it comes to
02:46:34.700 uh it's time to stop being so nice and that probably gets generated with us but at the same
02:46:41.420 time that is quite a battle that we're facing uh speaking of chris sky i know that you greg and and
02:46:49.160 You, Rob, probably know more about that campaign than us Westerners do.
02:46:53.460 Did he play sixth in that mayoral election, or was he higher up than that, or was the
02:46:59.600 election fixed?
02:47:01.020 I think it was sixth or seventh.
02:47:04.520 I'm not fresh on the numbers, but interesting that you bring up Chris Sky, because I was
02:47:10.720 just going to tie some of what we're saying together, which is, it's not even about being
02:47:15.500 nice as much as it's being honest and being brave because the thing is that bravery is infectious
02:47:22.020 josh alexander billboard chris chris sky all of these people basically just said no to something
02:47:29.420 and they stood up they said no i'm not doing that uh i disagree with that and what were the
02:47:34.360 consequences sure they got canceled they had various institutions and avaraces coming to uh
02:47:40.380 try and shut them down. But with each of these individuals, there is a groundswell of support.
02:47:46.700 There are so many people coming out to say, yes, oh my God, I agree with you. And we need to
02:47:51.440 remember that. We need to remember that a small act of bravery has a massive, massive trickle
02:47:57.440 effect. And I think generally what really frustrates me is so much of the conversation
02:48:03.600 around politics these days, we default to the Ottawa bubble sort of way of thinking.
02:48:10.380 which is, well, what are the polls going to say?
02:48:12.700 What will the polls say?
02:48:13.740 What will the media say?
02:48:15.000 What are the people going to say about?
02:48:16.980 Oh, you're saying that what you're saying
02:48:19.080 is that we need to change the narrative on the ground.
02:48:23.140 We need to, instead of looking at the Ottawa bubble stats
02:48:25.660 and statistics and numbers aspects,
02:48:27.560 we need to look at the psychology side of things.
02:48:30.240 Just like the straight up psychology of,
02:48:32.300 hey, I'm going to tell the truth.
02:48:33.540 Hey, I'm going to be courageous
02:48:34.520 and it's going to inspire other people to be courageous
02:48:36.780 and there's going to be a trickle effect.
02:48:38.300 it's hard to put that into a formula it's hard to put that into a spreadsheet but we've seen these
02:48:44.920 anomalies like josh alexander billboard chris chris sky where it's obviously the trucker convoy
02:48:50.040 where it's obviously something that oh the stats didn't count for that i i thought i thought there
02:48:54.680 i thought there was no far right in canada turns out there's like a huge protest far right uh you
02:49:00.180 know on ottawa three years ago right but but no but but it's true like every every single one of
02:49:05.900 these instances proves wrong all of these like ottawa bubble people and i think that um it's
02:49:13.500 foolish to kind of play that game or kind of use the ottawa bubble lens to to try and solve our
02:49:21.060 problems because it's not an ottawa bubble problem it's it's a people of canada uh problem um 0.97
02:49:27.140 that's a yawning there did no i'm not i just needed air it's stuffy in here of course i'm
02:49:35.000 not bored i i discovered greg years ago and i thought he was the funniest person and my sons
02:49:41.600 just laugh their butts off and they're teenagers they don't laugh very often
02:49:46.180 because they think they're cool but i just think you're the best comedian ever
02:49:49.740 that's why i reached out to him to get him on the show the first time i thought this guy's
02:49:54.920 funny i gotta get him on you guys should come to my show i could use you in the audience let me
02:49:59.060 tell you it's rob you say that you've been uh really really hounded by local authorities
02:50:07.540 in your you're in niagara right in the that area st catherine's i am so um the left got
02:50:16.840 organized a lot quicker than uh we did and i think a lot of people don't give them credit for that
02:50:21.860 And we need to get as organized as they were, because I'll tell you what, Antifa in Niagara here, they have three members from Antifa are on our Niagara Regional Council at one point.
02:50:39.640 and one of the um what do you call that oh ontario no the niagara regional police
02:50:48.400 service board member is also an antifa activist so these people have completely infiltrated
02:50:58.600 our municipal government here i know it sounds like i'm telling a joke right now but this is
02:51:03.780 real life and they like to do things like send you know 900 pound transgender men to my house 0.99
02:51:13.740 to spy on me and my family so you know it's the things that these people will do they'll just 0.99
02:51:20.180 stop at nothing it's i've gotten really used to being treated like this uh but you know it's
02:51:25.880 annoying do you think that you could run for a council position you and maybe some other like
02:51:32.960 minded people to take enough spots to actually form majority on council? Would that be a
02:51:38.240 possibility? What's the mentality in your city like? Yeah, that's a possibility. I don't know
02:51:45.100 if I'm going to do that or if I'm going to run for school board. I'll be the first person to
02:51:50.060 admit that I don't want to do either. I have zero interest in it. So it's going to be done for the
02:51:56.260 people which is kind of what i've always done and uh you know i'll be letting people know uh what my
02:52:02.920 views and values are very quick because i think we need real leadership i'm not going to sit around
02:52:09.120 and wait to hear what people want i'm going to tell people what need to happen and if they don't
02:52:13.900 agree with that then they can move on to somebody else because i don't think that kid should be 0.98
02:52:18.940 learning about these uh trannies and classrooms and pronouns and and all this you know nasty 1.00
02:52:27.860 behavior going on i don't want none of that in in school systems all right let's uh let's wrap it 0.99
02:52:34.580 up guys we're coming up on three hours here and we still need predictions we've got layton's
02:52:39.660 got odessa's um we got yours chris i think chris dacy uh rob you were talking to me
02:52:48.260 earlier today about ubi i think yeah so here's what i think is going to happen i don't know that
02:52:54.600 this will happen for sure but just a prediction and i've done decent with these in the past i
02:53:00.080 think we're going to see the uh universal basic income come out and what i think i think this
02:53:06.120 has been a weapon that's been in the uh liberals back pocket for quite some time now we know they
02:53:11.880 know how to garnish support when they need to uh they have canadians starving right now
02:53:16.460 they already did a trial on universal basic income i'm sure you all remember the CERB program
02:53:22.260 and they seen that they were able to keep up with that amount of funding with the taxpayers dollars
02:53:27.780 and what i think they're going to do is they're going to create this a wedge issue just like 0.98
02:53:33.780 trudeau did in 2015 with weed people were so stupid and excuse me if anyone on here was in 0.98
02:53:43.000 that category but they were so damn set on trudeau legalizing weed that everybody voted for this 0.99
02:53:50.180 little dweeb and now we're in a time where it doesn't matter if you have a good job a good
02:53:56.520 career everybody's struggling for money right now everybody's tight so now we're going to go into
02:54:03.060 another thing uh you know a wedge issue where justin trudeau is going to be going up there and
02:54:07.260 saying look guys with us if you can't find a job if you can't find anything our government's going
02:54:14.560 to have you covered we're going to make sure you have enough money to pay the rent get your family
02:54:19.840 groceries and then you know on top of that you're going to get your child tax credit too so you're
02:54:25.420 going to have like an income to stay home so i think that's going to be a big trick and i think
02:54:31.600 that's going to garnish a lot of support for the liberals and i know a lot of people don't want to
02:54:36.660 hear that but hey man I'm just telling you uh what I think's gonna happen and uh Trudeau and 0.98
02:54:42.660 the liberal regime they know it had turned that shit around on a dime uh none of us would have 0.95
02:54:47.580 never thought that they were gonna win that last election and uh man these people have had this 0.99
02:54:53.740 plan going on for a lot longer than we can imagine so you know we all think we know what's gonna
02:54:59.400 happen and a lot of the time we do but these guys got a lot of tricks up their sleeves so
02:55:04.400 I would say that if I had any prediction that I think is going to come true, I think it'll be the
02:55:09.980 UBI and they're going to use it as a wedge issue. They're going to use it on vulnerable people,
02:55:14.500 you know, who, who need the financial assistance. And you know, that's just going to lead us down
02:55:22.020 a path of CBDC and what you'll see going forward, because I believe that's how they'll try and put
02:55:28.060 these payments out to get us to sign into that program. Right. And then it's going to end up
02:55:33.480 being you know well you want money from the government you can't be creating issues for
02:55:37.700 the government are you vaccinated are you doing this are you doing that so you know i know that's
02:55:43.860 a pretty lengthy prediction but uh those are some of the things that i can possibly see come to
02:55:49.360 fruition in uh the last year and uh yeah shadow thanks for having me on it's a pleasure like
02:55:55.080 always and uh couldn't be a better panel on here so it's been nice to be with you guys
02:55:59.440 and uh hi greg i miss you i miss you too rob great to see you bro
02:56:03.740 thank you rob for coming on today i know it's late out there and you've got kids and they're
02:56:09.180 going to be waking up early in the morning so uh thanks a lot man could i add up on that real
02:56:13.580 quick shadow absolutely yeah so you know i let's say that that comes true i do like that that that
02:56:20.840 prediction from rob we have we are now used to a limp and flaccid conservative party of canada
02:56:27.900 so if that were to happen you know sorry for the visual but that's what's what it is i don't know
02:56:33.680 what else okay all right um you know if that were to happen if trudeau will do what he does best he
02:56:41.060 will keep marching hard left he will keep pushing we're going to give you ubi i feel i predict that
02:56:48.060 we're going to hear something from pierre polyev like and i know this goes against my earlier
02:56:51.520 prediction but if he would say something like hey we are going to um we're going to oppose this
02:56:58.140 ubi it's not good it's not going to save us money no it's going to destroy the country we saw the
02:57:04.860 trucker convoy it we already trampled all over the charter of rights and freedoms okay trudeau
02:57:11.280 is a tyrant you should be using that terminology pierre polyev but for some reason he's always
02:57:17.140 been weak he's always been kind of sort of padding and like like it's almost like patty
02:57:22.160 cake if you ever played uh football during practice you kind of do a patty cake thing
02:57:26.480 where you're not really actually tacked because it's your own teammate but like that that really
02:57:30.120 what if that's how i feel pierre polyev always approaches attacking trudeau it's always softball
02:57:36.160 he did he did call him a marxist to be fair i mean that was on on tape so we did see him call
02:57:41.900 true to all marxists but shadow every single day a liberal mp basically implies that conservatives 0.98
02:57:49.880 are less than human scum like racists every single day every single day and then what do 0.97
02:57:54.800 we get back from the conservative party oh well you guys are wasting our money it's not even 0.99
02:58:00.780 comparable man and this kind of comes back to uh my point earlier of what i think is going to happen
02:58:06.580 And this is like another prediction, which is, um, I think that people who are further
02:58:11.420 right, like myself, um, PPC people, they're going to get further gate kept gate.
02:58:18.240 You know, Pierre Polyev likes to say that he's going to stop the gatekeepers.
02:58:21.280 He is the gatekeeper.
02:58:22.280 He's gatekeeping everybody who's further right.
02:58:24.660 Oh no, we're actually not going to oppose mass migration. 0.59
02:58:26.640 We're not going to talk about political prisoners.
02:58:28.420 We're not going to talk about the pandemic.
02:58:29.560 We're not going to talk about all sorts of other things either.
02:58:32.640 Okay.
02:58:32.920 We don't want to upset the media guys.
02:58:34.180 He is the gatekeeper.
02:58:35.020 We're going to see much more of that.
02:58:36.580 We're going to see much more establishment conservatives punching right and saying, no, no, no, don't say that.
02:58:41.800 We don't believe in that.
02:58:43.160 And well, I think it's again, I think that we need to realize that Pierre Polyev and the conservative party is not our friend.
02:58:49.900 They could end up being our worst nightmare, especially if they're like, hey, we support UBI along with various other things.
02:58:56.340 But I do want to say, Shadow, because I know it makes you uncomfortable because you're like, we got to but we got to get Trudeau out fair.
02:59:02.840 We got to get Trudeau out.
02:59:03.660 but here's the thing things are already moving right things are sort of starting to drift a
02:59:09.080 little bit right Pierre Polyev is getting support and you know we need to keep pushing right and you
02:59:14.280 don't push right by being a simp for the media you're not helping pushing right by supporting
02:59:19.940 Pierre Polyev you're not moving anything you push right by holding Pierre's feet to the fire and
02:59:25.920 why aren't you talking about mass migration why aren't you talking about the coots for why aren't
02:59:30.040 you talking about like whatever it is but like that is how we push things further right that
02:59:35.420 doesn't mean that you know trudeau is going to win no no he's you know his numbers are not doing
02:59:39.760 well right now that's going to continue but as people who are in the alternative media space
02:59:43.740 we do ourselves a huge favor by continuing to push right and continuing to like put hold the
02:59:49.700 feet to the fire of pier probably have to keep going in the right direction this is exactly what
02:59:54.740 uh the NDP does to get the liberals moving to the left that's what that's what that's what I feel my
03:00:01.160 job is but I encourage other people in our space to kind of do the same thing because you don't we
03:00:05.320 don't gain any ground by saying well you know maybe we should just shut the hell up and just
03:00:10.260 vote for Pierre you know like like we don't get anything from that like that's we gain nothing
03:00:14.280 from that interesting let me ask you guys and I think Odessa is trying to get back on she claims
03:00:21.460 that she had a computer meltdown i think she went to bed but anyway that's fine um she was talking
03:00:27.480 earlier about a black swan event and she had this wasn't just a guess she had heard this from some
03:00:34.500 well-placed people in the united states um she didn't specify what that black swan event might
03:00:41.360 be it could be a massive internet outage based upon solar flares it could be any number of things
03:00:48.660 do you guys think that there is going to be an event like that sometime in 2024 remember that
03:00:54.980 we're in canada and canada is a non-consequential nation worldwide it's become more so since trudeau
03:01:01.160 took over uh the united states however is a different matter they still have the number
03:01:05.680 one economy on the planet they still have the number one military on the planet and it's china's 0.66
03:01:11.260 job it's the world economic forum's job to take them down do you think they'll allow donald trump 0.82
03:01:16.560 anywhere near the white house what did she mean when she talked about this black swan event
03:01:22.960 anybody with any thoughts on this there's a few around civil war i can tell you that one
03:01:29.200 i don't think that it will start but i think it'll be threatened i think that people will
03:01:33.040 think it will happen or is happening or just on the verge of it i think there's going to be a new
03:01:38.000 term that's introduced in 2024 that's kind of starting now and that's going to be a white
03:01:43.600 identity. I think white identity is going to be the big next thing because that's the one group 0.99
03:01:48.680 that doesn't have a defense league at all. And this is well known. And I think it's going to 0.92
03:01:53.540 create the conditions where white identity is going to be thrust upon us. And the defense of 0.99
03:01:59.040 white is going to be a thing now. I think that's going to lead to a demonization of white people.
03:02:05.020 And one of my fears... 0.57
03:02:06.900 It'll lead to it. We're there already, brother.
03:02:08.600 No, but what I think what's going to happen is I think they're going to leverage that for the
03:02:12.240 election they're going to say that white people are scary democrats don't want to go to the
03:02:16.960 elections because they're scared they're going to have separate entrances for the next election
03:02:21.000 and one entrance is going to run smoothly while the other one doesn't run smoothly
03:02:24.960 trump will lose and that's going to kick off some major resistance and major fighting back
03:02:30.360 because you're going to see republicans saying they weren't allowed to vote because they were
03:02:34.220 white they couldn't get through the checkpoints they weren't allowed in the security was too high
03:02:38.280 the concerns were too high it's going to be along those lines because i i don't think they're going
03:02:42.920 to give up uh trying to steal the election in any way they can and one way to do it would be to
03:02:48.280 separate both groups say one group is threatening the other one group needs protection they'll have
03:02:53.560 armed guards the other group needs to be checkpointed and not all of them will get
03:02:57.720 through so i think that's going to kick off some sort of resistance once trump loses for those
03:03:01.960 reasons so i really think we should pay attention to this white identity thing that's going to be
03:03:06.520 pushed upon us, and that's going to be used to separate us. The black flag, though, I think is 0.55
03:03:11.740 going to be water. I think they're going to claim poisoned water. That's where I'm putting my black
03:03:16.360 flag check. And I do want to lead one more thing here because I'm going to jump off shortly. I got 0.82
03:03:20.820 a morning show to do. I think some good news that's going to come is, I'm not going to tell
03:03:27.000 you how I know, but a criminal investigation in Canada leading from the NCI is likely going to
03:03:32.560 happen. So my prediction is going to be there will be a criminal investigation with ex-police
03:03:36.780 officers, ex-Crown, ex-judges. They're coming together and they're going to be pushing forward.
03:03:42.780 I do think that that's going to happen. And I also think that we'll have a resolution for the
03:03:47.200 Coutts situation. I don't think we're going to get to the Jordan decision, which will be about
03:03:51.520 October now because of the delay with the Toli Olenek lawyer change. But I do think that we'll
03:03:56.360 be getting a jury decision. I don't think that they'll be successful, the Crown, at approving
03:04:02.340 conspiracy and these gentlemen are members conspiracy but i do expect that there will be
03:04:07.140 some charges that will be found and convicted i do think harbert will be the one that is freed
03:04:13.940 on no conviction and also jerry i think will be no convictions along with the jacqueline but i do
03:04:19.700 think lysic may get a conviction for firearms offenses and possibly for his participation with
03:04:24.980 the protest but not a conspiracy to commit murder charge and i do think that tony for the same
03:04:30.420 reasons may see a mischief charge but nothing serious but so they get time served then right
03:04:36.020 and they get released correct my notes having down is time served file appealed uh so file appeal so
03:04:41.620 i think that even though they'll find a conviction time served they're going to appeal it because
03:04:45.300 they were allowed to protest there's no reason why they should be found guilty on that but i
03:04:49.300 don't think they'll get the conspiracy commit murder charge i don't think they'll be able to
03:04:52.820 show that to crown so those will be my predictions about the nci criminal investigation i think that
03:04:57.540 will go forward in 2024 we'll get a resolution for the cootsman and unfortunately white identity is
03:05:03.780 going to become a thing and they'll be used to wedge us completely in 2024 where can we find
03:05:10.340 you for your show tomorrow morning my friend thelevineshow.com uh you can find me live there
03:05:15.380 but i'm also on rumble x facebook you can find me every everywhere and i'll be at 6 a.m mountain 8
03:05:21.780 a.m eastern and i'll be talking actually shadow about my articles i just released over the
03:05:25.860 the Christmas break, which was a breakdown of the NSA report, followed by an analysis of the
03:05:31.140 criminal requirements and investigation potential. And then part three was about how citizens can
03:05:37.340 stand up and advocate for this and push it forward. I believe all three parts are necessary.
03:05:41.980 Analyze and understand the NSA report, understand what criminal charges could be done, like
03:05:46.580 negligence causing bodily harm and death, and then how the public can push for this. So go check that
03:05:52.740 on in my uh substack at jasonlavine.substack.com and uh yeah let me know what you think but i
03:05:57.940 think this will be the year of some some accountability at the same time we're gonna
03:06:02.180 have the worst year we've ever seen uh and i think the u.s election is going to really kick off a
03:06:06.980 potential or as close as we've become uh to a civil war i think canada will stand by and watch
03:06:13.140 i don't think we'll do much here until it kicks off in the united states but i think it'll be
03:06:17.620 november december we're gonna have those answers i think yeah thank you right about i think you're
03:06:24.180 right about that uh that whiteness thing jason yeah i think it's happening the talker mentioned
03:06:29.620 it uh tim pool mentioned it um uh jeremy mckenzie mentioned it i think this is something that's
03:06:35.380 materializing and it's not going to be like we're not going to create it we're not going to create
03:06:39.380 a white defense league it's going to be thrust upon us and that's going to be boogeyman yeah um
03:06:44.020 um i think it's every max candy who's a race baiter in the in the u.s uh he got a standing 0.67
03:06:51.180 ovation in front of a studio audience for his netflix special when he said that whiteness 0.97
03:06:57.240 prevents white people from connecting to humanity in other words white people that aren't human 0.95
03:07:03.780 right this is this is joseph goebel stuff right yeah yeah that was actually uh one of my predictions
03:07:11.500 i was going to mention so just to pick you up piggyback off of jason great work on the coots
03:07:16.300 four by the way that was a very very concise uh update that i appreciate um i think um there's
03:07:23.000 going to be a we're already seeing a rise of tribalism and you know tribalism doesn't mean
03:07:29.560 necessarily hey we're tribes and like you know we're in the woods whatever but it's uh you know
03:07:34.440 it's like people who are in different groups like tribalism as in like it's just about my tribe
03:07:39.100 versus your tribe, you know, and with things like the, uh, you know, national anthem being
03:07:45.560 sung in Punjabi with things like the, you know, the 50 foot stall Hindu statue with things like 0.63
03:07:52.760 even Israel versus Palestine, you know, like, like these are different tribes who are fighting
03:07:57.980 for what their, their tribe wants. And, uh, you know, there was a lot of white people on this
03:08:05.040 stream you know uh it's like that's that's another kind of tribe and if you haven't noticed our tribe 0.98
03:08:11.460 gets uh shit on uh a lot because uh we care about freedom in canada etc and uh the as it's been 0.74
03:08:20.300 mentioned the media normally regularly dehumanizes us so that's something that i think uh canadians 0.98
03:08:27.120 definitely need to wake up to it's uncomfortable it's uncomfortable and i think like jason said
03:08:32.280 it's kind of being thrust upon us and it's kind of like unfortunate but it's like hey it's it's
03:08:37.360 kind of a uh the team sport here and we're already kind of wearing our colored jerseys that's just
03:08:42.500 that's just the way it's kind of unfolding and well i should add white people shouldn't feel
03:08:48.360 guilty about that because basically every single other tribe already does this guilt-free we just 0.99
03:08:53.140 get a hard time for it because the media tells us that we're shit and we shouldn't believe that lie 0.98
03:08:58.200 and we should feel good about our tribe and that's going to be hard because there's years and years 0.99
03:09:05.200 and years and years and years of programming to say anytime that white collectivism happens it's 0.55
03:09:10.000 basically hitler it's basically the devil it's basically the worst thing ever and that's just 0.96
03:09:13.560 simply not true yeah this is something i they've laid that foundation down too because white 0.97
03:09:18.920 supremacy is now a terrorist group so all you have to do is have any pride and boom you're now
03:09:23.820 terrorist yeah i told late this on on his show uh the gray matter podcast which is available right
03:09:30.540 now the my episode which is great thank you for having me on your show late and it was uh
03:09:36.220 me having a discussion back when i was still on radio about 2017 with a young uh producer who
03:09:41.900 worked on my show in the morning and we were discussing why there were no white people working
03:09:49.260 for the provincial government anywhere you went to there's a lot of government owned this and that
03:09:53.260 in manitoba liquor stores and public insurance and all of that for your car and so you go to
03:09:59.660 one of these places to renew your stickers your tags on your plates or you go to one of these
03:10:03.980 places just to go and buy a bottle of booze and it was all people of color who were working
03:10:09.180 frontline in the government and i said to her one morning how come there's no white people
03:10:14.620 working frontline jobs for the government and she said well i said isn't it supposed to be
03:10:22.220 a snapshot of our society and are white people still not the dominant you know like the culture
03:10:30.300 because i'm more about culture than i am about skin color religion i don't care
03:10:34.380 um and she said well you can't be racist against white people shadow right and i said racism is
03:10:42.680 racism it is what it is no matter what color you're talking about and only years later did
03:10:50.420 i discover that wow this is critical race theory she'd been through probably in journalism school
03:10:57.040 and i didn't know it then but i knew there was something wrong with it when she said that
03:11:01.760 you know so yeah this may be a thing jason thank you for all of the help that you gave
03:11:08.720 uh getting all of these people together today matt i really appreciate you and
03:11:12.380 my pleasure shadow thanks for having me too i appreciate that you're right jason levine of the
03:11:18.300 Levine show. Odessa, did you point out earlier what this Black Swan event was going to be?
03:11:26.540 No, the woman from CBS said there will be a Black Swan event. And she gave 9-11 an example of what
03:11:34.300 a Black Swan event is. But when I was looking for other 2024 quotes that have been made by powerful
03:11:40.280 people, she's not just one of them. It's just everything the WEF keeps saying by 2025, there
03:11:46.840 will be a mass cyber attack um and then we also know that they're already starting to blame russia
03:11:54.840 blame china even north korea i'm like north korea give me a break so they're already placing blame
03:12:03.720 on where this mass cyber attack will come from i it could be that the war spreads as well but you
03:12:11.400 You know, somebody here was talking about how, well, this is so great because we're
03:12:17.500 waking everybody up and all this independent media is really starting to take over.
03:12:21.600 Yes.
03:12:22.600 And that's why they need to shut it down.
03:12:25.640 And so they need to have an event for the Great Reset.
03:12:30.740 And I believe it is one of them is going to happen in 2024.
03:12:35.060 I don't think the entire transition is going to happen in 2024, but it will be a massive
03:12:39.760 stepping stone to what they want to accomplish i don't think in the end they'll accomplish
03:12:44.560 all of it but i think our the rest of this panel's lifetime will be exposing it and fighting it
03:12:51.360 yeah that was i was gonna say that's gonna be my prediction the uh the cyber attacks i've heard
03:12:58.980 things here and there i hope not that's gonna be a mess you know i like having my wi-fi i'm addicted
03:13:04.620 so that's gonna be uh it's gonna be a lot of challenges if that happens and and like you said
03:13:09.100 you know it's it's going to make our heart our job way harder and it's going to be the equivalent of
03:13:14.220 oh hey you can't go to the store unless you have a mask you can't go on to twitter or whatever
03:13:19.420 platform without xyz you know it's going to it's going to give them an excuse to have like high
03:13:25.500 high tight security uh background checks whatever it is to even just use the internet like who like 0.51
03:13:31.240 who knows i'm sure they're rubbing their hands together of all the all the nonsense that they
03:13:35.460 that they want to uh you know um install with this uh fake fake crisis or manufactured one
03:13:43.240 i just want to anybody oh go ahead before i go um i know you guys have heard this from all the
03:13:50.200 independent media for years but i believe 2024 and 25 is the most important year to have lots
03:13:57.500 of water stocked lots of non-perishable food stocked because if they hit infrastructure
03:14:05.900 you need to have water and food and I think probably you should have three months worth
03:14:11.720 do I think it's most likely going to happen in America where it's really bad yes do I think it's
03:14:17.580 going to happen in Canada is bad probably not but I just think if there's any year they're telling us
03:14:23.720 that a cyber attack could take down everything.
03:14:26.860 So you should have your food and water ready.
03:14:30.340 Dick Schwab said those words.
03:14:32.000 I played a video of him saying those words
03:14:34.420 just the other day.
03:14:35.660 They're also warning us of another pandemic
03:14:38.420 when it hits.
03:14:40.000 I think Trudeau said those words the other day.
03:14:41.880 Odessa, thank you for joining tonight.
03:14:45.160 Really appreciate it.
03:14:46.300 I've been wanting to have you on for quite some time.
03:14:48.720 We'll do a one-on-one one of these nights as well,
03:14:51.000 sometime early in the new year, maybe.
03:14:52.880 Well, I'm so blessed to have been able to sit with all of you tonight.
03:14:55.640 Thank you.
03:14:57.260 Thanks, Adessa.
03:14:58.780 Adessa Orlowitz, liberty.com.
03:15:01.660 Go and check it out.
03:15:02.740 Maybe join up as well.
03:15:03.880 Derek, I think you're the only one without a 2024 prediction so far.
03:15:08.500 Well, there you go.
03:15:09.240 You're saving the best for last, I guess, right?
03:15:11.420 Oh, yeah, man.
03:15:12.300 Well, what do we say here that hasn't been said already?
03:15:15.320 I think, I think Rob hit a lot on the head of what I was going to say, um, in terms of, um, where we're headed and what we're going to see.
03:15:24.380 I think that, I don't know, I think to put it on a lighter note, I think we're going to see maybe some issues in the housing bubble when they talk about an issue coming, um, ahead for a black swan moment.
03:15:37.680 Maybe like when you think about what happened in the U S in 2008, um, with the Dow collapsing
03:15:44.040 and the housing bubble bursting, I don't think Canada is going to see anything as bad, but
03:15:49.020 if you watch again, and I know Pierre puts out this video about, um, the, the housing
03:15:54.400 market implosion, uh, that he recently released on YouTube.
03:15:58.320 Uh, but it does, it does dictate a lot of what could be potentially coming.
03:16:02.540 I know his solution is, Hey, you elect us and this goes away.
03:16:05.660 It's not that simple, but I think as you see people who re-sign their mortgages back in
03:16:10.760 2019 at the height of the pandemic, their time on their terms are coming due and with
03:16:16.620 skyrocketed interest rates, I think what we're going to see this year and when people talk
03:16:20.640 about this year being probably the worst year to come if they thought this year was bad
03:16:26.440 is you're going to see a lot of defaults.
03:16:27.800 I think you're going to see a lot of people losing their homes, especially in cities like
03:16:31.440 Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, where housing has been ridiculously overinflated. As for other
03:16:38.140 markets that, you know, you keep seeing a raise in values, I think we might see somewhere around
03:16:43.960 a 15 to 20% adjustment. That's my prediction, or at least that's what I'm hearing from
03:16:49.480 people that I know in the banking industry, as well as in the real estate industry, that
03:16:53.540 we could see about a 15 to 20% correction. There's lots of people touting it's going to get much
03:16:58.400 worse. I'm not so sure about that because again, I don't think the government can afford for that
03:17:04.780 to happen unless of course, that's when they start bringing in things like the UBI and they start
03:17:08.900 saying, Hey, you know, your, your mortgage payments are huge. You can't requalify for your mortgage.
03:17:13.840 We'll get you a universal basic income. It'll cover all those extra fees and you can be working
03:17:18.000 poor the rest of your life. I think UBI is going to play a big, a big role in this upcoming year,
03:17:25.100 especially like rob said with the trump card on on the election if there is an election
03:17:28.940 i still think we're headed towards a spring election uh based on the signs of the way
03:17:35.000 politicians are behaving over the last uh month especially uh i i think the possibility does
03:17:41.080 linger there uh but if you were to ask my personal opinion of where the year's headed
03:17:44.560 um human sacrifice 30 years of darkness dogs and cats living together mass hysteria i think that's
03:17:52.820 um but who knows you know it's it's it's tough that nothing surprises me anymore especially
03:17:59.020 since 2019 so um my guess i guess is as good as anybody's we'll see what happens and and
03:18:05.560 hopefully we're all here to tell the tale next year i think we should all get into bomb shelter
03:18:09.960 sales i think that is a gold mine gentlemen thank you so much for joining tonight really
03:18:16.280 appreciate you taking the time leighton chris derrick greg uh you've all been on the show
03:18:22.420 before except for chris and it's cool to have you on tonight chris after it's kind of a little bit
03:18:28.560 of communication you and i have had over the past few months and let me just say again fantastic
03:18:33.480 job out there in ottawa leighton as always thank you very much for your wisdom and your knowledge
03:18:39.860 and your guidance derek your books have been absolutely phenomenal i hope you run for mayor
03:18:44.620 greg you bring a lot of common sense and a lot of comedy to us as well and i want to thank all of
03:18:50.260 you guys for joining the show tonight much appreciated thanks for having us shadow love
03:18:55.660 these panels they're great i love when you do these panels you're a great host and we should
03:18:59.940 do more of them we will absolutely let's make a habit of it at least once a month all right boys
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