The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Andrew Giuliani and Roger Stone Celebrate Trump’s Epic Legal Victory as NYC Crumbles — The StoneZONE

00:00:00.200 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.720 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.760 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:17.380 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:23.020 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.800 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.760 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:41.300 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:47.160 Yesterday, I got a substantial number of emails and text messages of people asking about and raving about my Panama hat.

00:00:56.580 So they said, we want to see more hats.

00:00:59.540 Well, I believe you should always give the people what they want.

00:01:04.280 We have a great show for you today.

00:01:06.700 All eyes have been fixed on New York, where yesterday the appellate court in New York State lowered Donald Trump's bond.

00:01:15.920 The bond required for him to post in order to appeal the outrageous verdict by Judge Engeron from $450 million, that's almost a half billion dollars, to a more reasonable $175 million.

00:01:34.820 Interestingly enough, I know this for a fact, Donald Trump paid cash.

00:01:41.060 For all those brain-damaged liberals on social media saying Trump is broke, I would point you to the fact that his truth social stock, now that the merger has been approved by the SEC, makes him among the six wealthiest men in the United States.

00:02:00.600 Cry, liberals. 0.88

00:02:02.200 All right.

00:02:02.740 Joining us now is Andrew Giuliani.

00:02:05.940 He is a former assistant to President Donald Trump.

00:02:10.320 He has also made a valiant and, I think, very promising campaign for the Republican nomination for governor of New York.

00:02:19.520 Strongly expect that he'll be a candidate for public office again.

00:02:23.600 He is, of course, the son of the greatest mayor in New York City history.

00:02:28.400 And he also happens to be a scratch golfer.

00:02:31.180 Also joining me, Troy Smith at Slingshot.news, my co-host.

00:02:38.520 Troy, let's bring you in and then we'll bring Andrew in.

00:02:42.540 There we go.

00:02:44.660 It's an honor to be here, Roger, as always.

00:02:46.500 Thank you so very much for joining us.

00:02:50.360 Andrew, obviously, the world's eyes are focused on New York.

00:02:55.900 Talk to us, first of all, about the outrageousness of this case brought by Letitia James and the developments of yesterday.

00:03:07.880 Well, Roger, first off, let me say I, too, enjoy your hat.

00:03:11.280 I think it's great.

00:03:11.960 You always have some of the best style as well.

00:03:14.060 But but I digress on what is the most important topic here, which when you mentioned Letitia James, look, I think anybody has to just go and look at her campaign statements.

00:03:24.880 Go back to 2017.

00:03:26.680 Go back to 2018.

00:03:27.760 Go back to everything that she has said on the campaign trail for attorney general.

00:03:32.820 She wanted to get Trump.

00:03:34.260 She basically, in very Bolshevik fashion, ended up finding her man first, Donald Trump, and then she was going to try to find a crime. 0.81

00:03:44.220 And I know that you guys have covered this time and time again, so I won't get into the details and the facts of this.

00:03:50.540 But I think there are so many New Yorkers that are looking at this.

00:03:53.500 And there are a lot, a lot of very high powered business people that I'm that I'm talking to that are saying, hey, look, we have real estate in New York.

00:04:00.900 We have businesses in New York and I don't want to invest any more in New York.

00:04:05.700 As a matter of fact, I'm thinking about divesting from New York.

00:04:09.120 Take the crime.

00:04:10.260 Take the fact that you're paying an economic premium in New York and put that aside.

00:04:14.200 If you have an attorney general that is actually going to go after their political opponents, the way Letitia James is obviously doing with Donald Trump and anybody connected to Donald Trump.

00:04:24.320 That's a very, very scary scenario for people that actually have private property, that actually have property in the state of New York.

00:04:31.600 And people are thinking twice.

00:04:33.020 And Roger, I got to tell you, I may be at Trump Bedminster in New Jersey right now.

00:04:37.260 It doesn't mean I'm fleeing New York yet.

00:04:39.100 But as somebody who loves the president, as somebody who has a last name, which is which is recognized in New York, it makes you think when you have a two year old daughter, whether or not New York is the actual place that you want her to grow up or whether you're actually looking at maybe a place that might be a little bit more red and might not go after political opponents the way the state of New York is.

00:05:00.600 Well, Andrew, the appellate court in New York state is also an elected court elected on a partisan basis.

00:05:09.320 That would mean that the majority, in fact, I think all of the appellate court judges are, in fact, Democrats.

00:05:16.320 But this didn't seem to me to be a partisan decision.

00:05:20.060 This seemed to be a relatively fair decision, even though 100 plus million dollars seems kind of high to have to post just in order to appeal your case.

00:05:31.980 Were you surprised at this decision?

00:05:36.000 You know, I think the if you look at Judge Engeron, as you pointed out so many times, Roger, in terms of the way that he's handled this case,

00:05:44.560 I think the appellate court had to actually lower this and had to lower it significantly.

00:05:49.420 Otherwise, they would lose all credibility.

00:05:52.080 And there's one thing that I've pointed out to President Trump specifically, and I've pointed out time and time again,

00:05:57.800 that I think is really indicative of not just where Engeron was on this, but really where the entire left has been on Donald Trump.

00:06:05.740 When Donald Trump took the stand in the case and Donald Trump was answering one of the questions from the attorney general's office,

00:06:15.620 Judge Engeron stopped the president and said, I didn't come here to listen to you.

00:06:21.340 Well, as a matter of fact, as the judge in the case, you did come to listen to Donald Trump.

00:06:26.560 And not only were you the judge, he was the jury as well, because we know this was a jury by judge.

00:06:32.460 So to me, I wasn't surprised just because they would have lost all credibility.

00:06:37.760 One hundred and seventy five million dollars does seem steep still.

00:06:41.060 But you know what? It gave Donald Trump the opportunity to post that bond, as you said, in cash.

00:06:46.380 And it gives him the opportunity to appeal what is this absolutely absurd case with with with nobody that has actually been harmed at all.

00:06:57.060 And when you have the banks that are continually lending to Donald Trump time and time and time again, you know, they have their own due diligence.

00:07:06.120 They go through their process and they did not make any claims against this.

00:07:10.560 So this is just obviously, again, a political pawn in Letitia James, who's going and using a court, which you've said and you've you just pointed this out, is very political.

00:07:23.860 And she found the right guy in anger on to be able to go and try to nail Donald Trump. 0.56

00:07:28.580 I'm glad the Court of Appeals lowered this and gave Trump an opportunity to appeal this case further.

00:07:34.540 Troy, do you have a question for Andrew Giuliani?

00:07:37.220 Absolutely. I think some of us not in New York, we look at the situation there, whether it be the cities or the migrant situation.

00:07:44.480 We say to ourselves, how could the officials of New York be focused on Donald Trump while their own city is I mean, it's falling apart.

00:07:51.620 Could you speak to New Yorkers opinion on that of these people focused on Trump while the city burns?

00:07:56.640 It seems unbelievable.

00:07:58.600 Yeah. And I think what I've been hearing more often, too, is even people that are not of the same political persuasion.

00:08:04.300 Maybe they're people that didn't like Trump's tweets in 2020.

00:08:08.040 Maybe they don't love his personality for whatever reason.

00:08:11.140 I do. I know Roger does.

00:08:13.100 But maybe they were turned off by some little things about Donald Trump.

00:08:16.880 They're looking and they're saying, wait a second, our city is going to hell right now, which it really is.

00:08:22.340 I mean, you mentioned the migrant situation there.

00:08:24.260 I can tell you that when when I go into W.A.B.C. radio, where Roger, I know, has an incredible show on Sunday afternoon as well.

00:08:33.000 And I go in a few times a week and and I end up taking either the one train or I take the four train there.

00:08:39.500 The four train is right by City Hall, which is 200 feet from where the mayor works.

00:08:44.520 In the last 10 days, I've been confronted three times with open drug use on that subway or on the platform.

00:08:51.340 And there are cops right there and they can't do anything about it.

00:08:53.580 They choose not to do anything about it because of the instructions that they've been told from one police plaza and specifically from City Hall.

00:09:01.600 When you add that on top of the migrant crisis, which is going on right now, where you see the city giving hundreds and hundreds of dollars a day, up to fifteen thousand dollars in cash in credit cards to these migrants, which, by the way, was a no bid contract.

00:09:18.720 So the mayor specifically chose who was going to be giving that contract.

00:09:22.840 The contractor alone got fifty three million dollars for themselves, not to then dole out to the migrants. 0.81

00:09:28.980 This is going to be more in the range of one point five to two billion dollars that's going to be doled out to migrants just this year alone.

00:09:36.060 Forget about next year. This is a three year contract.

00:09:38.860 So as people are looking more and more and more at the situation now in the city of New York, you're having more people that are saying, hey, I don't think this is the right place to raise my family at this time.

00:09:51.120 And as Roger knows very well in New York City specifically, things need to get really bad before they get worse.

00:09:58.000 I mean, go back to the early 90s and there were two thousand murders a year each and every year under David Dinkins in 1990 from 1990 to 1993.

00:10:07.840 And you had enough at that point, I guess, independents and Democrats that held their nose and said, yeah, I guess we'll vote for that Rudy Giuliani guy.

00:10:15.660 I don't know. He seems to be talking a little too much law and order, but I guess we need it now.

00:10:19.500 And he was able to just win his first election. But we saw what New York City could become, the potential that it could be.

00:10:28.140 Sadly, we've seen we've seen the opposite over the last few over the last few mayors and specifically the last 10 years with de Blasio and Mayor Adams and a lot of families.

00:10:40.340 And a lot of people are saying, you know what, I'm going to go look for brighter pastures.

00:10:46.700 You know, Andrew, one of the proudest things in my political history is the fact that I worked as a volunteer in your father's first campaign for mayor, the campaign he lost.

00:10:58.520 And then I came back and was able to make a small donation to his second campaign for mayor.

00:11:05.560 I like to say that Eric Adams is the best dressed mayor since Jimmy Walker, the most corrupt mayor since William O'Dwyer and the most incompetent mayor since Bill de Blasio.

00:11:19.160 Anyone who will look objectively at the Giuliani record will recognize that Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was the greatest mayor in New York City history.

00:11:31.320 We're going to go to a quick break here.

00:11:33.340 We'll be back with Andrew Giuliani has a limited time to be with us.

00:11:37.560 We've got a few more questions for him.

00:11:39.380 So don't go away.

00:11:46.820 Sounds rolling.

00:11:47.720 All three cameras.

00:11:48.840 We're good.

00:11:52.760 Is there any regrets that you have in life?

00:11:55.400 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of, yeah, I got a lot of regrets.

00:12:00.080 But when I look back on my life and I understand the lives that were lost, I mean, I'm sitting here with you.

00:12:10.920 And I can tell my story.

00:12:13.380 Former Hatch, also hearing advisor, Lieutenant General Michael, plan of pleading guilty today from life.

00:12:17.720 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.

00:12:20.940 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.

00:12:26.780 He's a brilliant military career serving 33 years.

00:12:30.280 Why was he being so elusive?

00:12:31.280 Mike Flynn, hope in truth and face like in person.

00:12:34.080 Joining me at the news desk now is Rebecca Walzer of walzerwealth.com.

00:12:51.180 She has been a regular guest on my TV show, Brennan House Live, for a long time.

00:12:56.480 She's not just an economics expert, but she's an attorney. 0.93

00:13:00.180 Rebecca, you have a large firm.

00:13:02.340 How many people work for your firm?

00:13:03.560 Just about 30, yes.

00:13:05.060 30.

00:13:05.540 And tell me, how can people prepare for what's coming with the, well, the end of the dollar

00:13:10.320 as we know it?

00:13:11.260 The end of the fiat system as we know it globally.

00:13:13.380 We are moving to hard asset-backed currencies again.

00:13:16.280 Thank the Lord.

00:13:17.100 Because fiat is where we get into all the problems.

00:13:19.520 When you have debt-based currency, you have debt-based problems.

00:13:22.800 And the United States, unfortunately, since 2020, has not stopped spinning at pandemic

00:13:27.700 levels.

00:13:28.320 This is systemic, and it is unsustainable, and it is coming to an end, especially with

00:13:33.380 the addition of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to the BRICS nations.

00:13:36.440 This is what controls our petrodollar.

00:13:38.300 This is the threat immediately in 2024.

00:13:40.940 For more information, walzerwealth.com.

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00:13:46.880 Find out why at walzerwealth.com.

00:13:52.800 Welcome back, folks.

00:14:02.680 If you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone.

00:14:05.580 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, at slingshot.news.

00:14:10.480 If you're not a subscriber there, let me urge you to do that today.

00:14:14.020 It's absolutely free, but you will get cutting-edge reporting on not only the news, politics, the

00:14:22.340 culture, and much, much more.

00:14:24.940 We're here with Andrew Giuliani, former assistant to President Donald Trump, a Republican candidate

00:14:32.740 for governor, one of the president's most outspoken and articulate supporters and defenders.

00:14:40.760 Andrew, let me ask you, I think Donald Trump is literally the toughest man I've ever met.

00:14:46.640 Now, I worked for Richard Nixon.

00:14:47.900 I worked for Senator Bob Dole.

00:14:50.540 They were both very tough guys.

00:14:52.700 But I would have to say the second toughest guy that I've ever known is Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

00:14:58.800 The fact that he just zealously represented his client, an act for which they're trying to destroy him, is just outrageous.

00:15:09.620 How is the mayor doing?

00:15:10.820 And then we're going to put up a graphic to tell people how they can help the mayor, because the legal fees, I can tell you this firsthand, when the government decides to destroy you, the facts don't matter, the evidence doesn't matter, the rules don't matter, the Constitution doesn't matter, and the costs of legal assistance are astronomical.

00:15:32.680 How's the mayor doing?

00:15:33.500 Well, you're absolutely right, Roger.

00:15:36.140 And I got to tell you, what's amazing is a son.

00:15:39.920 What I can say is looking at him over the last few years and how he's been attacked by the left.

00:15:48.240 First off, I think there's a real reason for this.

00:15:51.260 And I think they want to be very, very clear to anybody who is going to defend President Trump specifically in 2024 with regards to the election.

00:16:01.460 And they want to say, if we can take down America's mayor, we're going to try to take you down as well.

00:16:06.440 That's what you're dealing with here with regards to the left here.

00:16:10.220 And that's what you're dealing with specifically with Biden's cronies and Obama's cronies.

00:16:14.720 And that's why, honestly, Roger, I'm so proud of my father, because I can't tell you how many conversations we had post-election.

00:16:24.280 And basically, he knew exactly what they were going to try to do to him, just for speaking the truth, just for going out there and laying out what was the case for President Donald Trump,

00:16:36.600 just laying out the case, the facts, the signed affidavits, the hundreds and hundreds, over a thousand signed affidavits from Americans in states from Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia.

00:16:50.460 So as a son, I have to tell you, I am more proud of my father now than I've ever been in my life, including going after the mafia, including saving the city of New York, including in his days after September 11th, when he was dubbed America's mayor.

00:17:08.860 So as a son, I'm very proud. And I have to tell you, we also had a conversation a couple of weeks ago and I pulled him aside and I said, hey, dad, you know, how are you doing yourself?

00:17:17.160 You always are very optimistic about this. And he said, look, he said, I have two options.

00:17:21.660 He said, one, I can roll over and I can die. Or two, I can go and get the truth out there and fight this and let the American people know what I think happened in 2020,

00:17:33.060 what I'm trying to prevent from happening again in 2024. And he said, that's what I choose to do.

00:17:39.260 And I have to tell you, he's one of the most optimistic guys that I've ever seen as well.

00:17:43.000 He really believes that this is going to end well for us, for the country, that our constitutional republic will continue.

00:17:51.300 And so he's a great, a great, great role model to me. I couldn't ask for a better father, Roger.

00:17:55.720 And I appreciate you saying that. I think you are right. And you're, by the way, in that category of well is some of the toughest people that I know.

00:18:02.540 But between Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani and Roger Stone, that's a that's a pretty tough threesome right there.

00:18:08.480 Well, that's a great company. You know, I foresaw all of this.

00:18:14.700 So after the election, I strongly urged the president to issue a pardon of every Republican member of Congress who had who had questioned the election.

00:18:26.180 Every Republican member of the U.S. Senate, every member of his own staff, every one of his most high profile supporters.

00:18:34.320 That yes, that would have included me, not because we did anything wrong, but because I foresaw that they would weaponize the justice system and they would make the simple act of questioning the outcome of an election, a crime headline stone begged for second pardon.

00:18:52.540 This is nonsensical. This is just how the hard left rolls.

00:18:57.180 So let's take a quick preview of the upcoming trial. 0.53

00:19:01.960 We now have a notorious liar, Michael Cohen, who's told so many lies, you can't even keep them straight.

00:19:09.420 They're bringing a case in Manhattan.

00:19:12.220 Alvin Cheeseburger Bragg, a man whose election to the district attorney's office was essentially funded by George Soros,

00:19:20.980 is bringing a case that the federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York fully examined and determined what they could not bring.

00:19:30.580 Mr. Bragg is yet to to to outline the underlying crime.

00:19:36.140 In other words, it's alleged that Trump or Michael Cohen on his behalf made payments to this this adult movie actress.

00:19:45.960 But but but where is the crime there?

00:19:49.320 There is no crime that I can find.

00:19:51.500 But this is clearly the next assault on Donald Trump.

00:19:55.560 And then yesterday, very disturbingly, of course, the judge issued a gag order against him.

00:20:02.360 So in other words, you can't even defend yourself.

00:20:05.240 You have to sit there and take the abuse of of the court and the abuse of these witnesses.

00:20:12.040 You can't even point out publicly where the witnesses have been dishonest in their testimony.

00:20:19.040 Doesn't seem very fair to me.

00:20:22.000 Not at all, Roger.

00:20:23.240 And let me just take a little bit of a different perspective on this case, because I think this is going to be the absolute key to the case.

00:20:29.920 You're talking about facts and anybody who has any experience, whether or not you went to law school, whether you practice law, whether or not you've just seen many cases and been around many lawyers and prosecutors like I have.

00:20:43.880 To me, the most important thing about this case is going to be jury selection in Manhattan, where you have 81 percent of the vote actually voted for Alvin Bragg.

00:20:53.740 80 percent voted for Joe Biden. To me, it's going to be so important for the Trump defense team to be able to get as much information about these 12 jurors as possible.

00:21:05.820 Specifically for me, I would want to know their political affiliation.

00:21:09.480 And I think that's very, very relevant in this case, because as you highlight the facts out there.

00:21:14.800 Yeah, obviously, the Trump team will do a very good job in defending the facts.

00:21:20.620 I think Alvin Bragg can't even put any merits to this.

00:21:24.300 Like you pointed out there, you have Michael Cohen, who is the star witness, who has lied numerous times under oath, been caught lying under oath, been prosecuted, went to jail lying under oath.

00:21:36.500 So to me, this is going to be all about jury selection and whether or not you can get an unbiased jury or at least two or three unbiased members of the jury that are going to actually look at this for what it is, which is a complete farce that, like you said, the Southern District of the U.S.

00:21:55.560 Attorney's Attorney's Office in New York chose not to take on this case.

00:21:59.340 Yet Alvin Bragg, who's funded by Soros, who is a complete one of the main reasons why we're not able to arrest violent felons in Manhattan, in basically the center of the city of New York, he's the one taking this case on.

00:22:15.120 So going to be all about jury selection in this to make sure that Trump gets a fair trial.

00:22:20.400 Michael Cohen is most definitely one of the most odious characters I've ever met.

00:22:24.320 He testified before both the House and the Senate, claiming that he overheard a phone conversation between Donald Trump and I, because Trump put such conversation on a speakerphone, in which I gave Trump a heads up that WikiLeaks would release material regarding Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

00:22:45.300 The problem is, at first he said it happened in July of 2016, then he changed his mind, I think, at the urging of prosecutors and said it happened in August of 2016.

00:22:56.060 Of course, there is no phone record to bolster his claim.

00:23:00.080 And the Trump assistant, who he claims came into the room to tell Trump that I was on the phone, has no memory of that ever happening.

00:23:09.720 I can tell you exactly when it happened.

00:23:11.660 Never.

00:23:12.480 Why would you even be discussing something in July or August that allegedly or that actually only happened in October?

00:23:20.060 By the way, Julian Assange himself had announced publicly on numerous occasions that he had obtained material regarding Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

00:23:29.480 So this wasn't even a secret.

00:23:31.380 Clearly, they don't trust Michael Cohen as a witness.

00:23:34.360 He was never even brought as a witness in my trial.

00:23:37.700 He would have been destroyed on cross-examination.

00:23:40.980 Let's go back to the mayor a second.

00:23:42.640 Folks, Mayor Giuliani has millions of dollars in legal fees that he has to pay.

00:23:49.140 Please help him out.

00:23:50.360 We're going to show you the address where you can go directly to his legal defense fund.

00:23:56.100 Rudy Giuliani is, as I say, he's the second toughest man I know.

00:24:01.280 He's fighting for his life.

00:24:03.520 And as Andrew points out, he really doesn't have any choice.

00:24:06.400 He can roll over or he can continue to fight.

00:24:09.620 And like the ancient Romans, he's a fighter who will never give up.

00:24:14.700 Saw a great video of him yesterday driving down the road in his convertible, singing along to opera.

00:24:21.280 It really warmed my heart.

00:24:23.280 But, folks, please, open your wallets.

00:24:25.760 Let's put it up one more time because I want to make sure we raise some money here.

00:24:29.880 Go to DefendRudy.com, DefendRudy.com, and send him a generous contribution.

00:24:36.520 This man isn't just fighting for himself.

00:24:38.380 He's fighting for us.

00:24:41.040 And it's absolutely what Andrew says is true.

00:24:44.600 They want to silence him for the 2024 election.

00:24:48.540 They want to keep him on defense.

00:24:50.820 So he needs your prayers, but he also needs your dollars.

00:24:55.200 Troy, we're almost out of time here.

00:24:57.540 Have you got a final question for our guest, Andrew Giuliani?

00:25:01.720 Absolutely.

00:25:02.360 The question I get the most from people around the country, you know, they ask me,

00:25:05.960 Troy, how do we fix what's going on?

00:25:08.080 And it's a problem in so many cities that we see across the country, just like New York.

00:25:13.220 And I think the blueprint is what your father did.

00:25:16.040 And your father really brought order back to New York City.

00:25:18.720 Can you just run through just really quick the points, how you get this thing back in order nationwide?

00:25:23.200 How do we fix the lawlessness going on in the cities?

00:25:26.860 Yeah.

00:25:27.080 Well, first off, thank you very much for putting that up there, Roger, at DefendRudy.com.

00:25:31.220 That means a lot.

00:25:31.940 And I could tell you this is going directly to underwriting the appeal of the $161 million

00:25:39.200 ruling against him by Mawson Freeman.

00:25:42.740 So that's exactly where the funds would go.

00:25:44.660 In terms of New York City here, it's a focus on broken windows, policing and quality of life.

00:25:51.600 You need to allow your police officers to be proactive and not reactive.

00:25:56.780 You know, we think about this poor police officer that lost his life less than 48 hours ago,

00:26:01.700 and the police have been put on their heels, whether it's going after police's qualified

00:26:07.300 immunity, whether it's cashless bail, which was signed into law by Andrew Cuomo, or whether

00:26:13.120 it's DAs like Alvin Bragg who choose not to prosecute violent crimes.

00:26:18.000 I believe Alvin Bragg has actually violated his oath of office if you read the New York

00:26:22.580 State Constitution.

00:26:23.600 And I believe the governor has every single right to remove him and probably should remove

00:26:28.560 him for the welfare of New Yorkers.

00:26:30.540 But it's a matter of focusing on quality of life crimes, on broken windows, on making sure

00:26:35.460 that, hey, if somebody ends up committing a low level crime, there needs to be intradiction

00:26:40.760 at that point right there for a couple of reasons.

00:26:43.280 One, that way they don't graduate and that way you protect citizens in New York.

00:26:47.640 But also, too, you want to make sure that you get somebody maybe when they commit a misdemeanor

00:26:52.680 versus graduating up to a felony, because then you actually have an opportunity where they

00:26:56.940 can rehabilitate their life and become somebody who's actually a productive member of society.

00:27:02.160 What's happening by allowing these people that have been arrested 10, 20, 30, as we see

00:27:08.140 in the Jordan Yealy case, a guy arrested 44 times to just be let right out after fingerprinting

00:27:14.920 this guy, what you're telling him is, yeah, this is OK behavior.

00:27:18.560 Go ahead and terrorize New Yorkers time and time and time again.

00:27:22.420 And that sadly just leads to more and more and more and more chaos.

00:27:27.220 So it has to be proactive policing.

00:27:28.900 And by the way, a place like New York and so many of our great cities in America, you

00:27:33.760 think about a place like San Francisco.

00:27:35.100 It's a beautiful place with incredible potential, but been run horribly for a while.

00:27:40.000 If San Francisco or New York is a safe place, people will actually pay a little bit more

00:27:46.000 to live there because you have such incredible opportunities in the city of New York.

00:27:51.640 But now, as they feel that their quality of life is being infringed upon and they look and

00:27:57.280 saying we're paying such a premium to live in New York, it's no wonder why New York, California

00:28:02.700 and Illinois lead the country in out migration and places like Florida, Texas lead the country

00:28:09.200 in in migration because they're saying, hey, look, government is limited here.

00:28:12.920 You're going to be safe.

00:28:13.820 You're going to be protected.

00:28:14.940 We allow our police to be proactive.

00:28:16.660 And because of that, you have the freedom to pursue your happiness, if you will, to quote

00:28:22.340 men that are far smarter than I am.

00:28:25.720 All right.

00:28:26.740 Andrew does a great radio show, WABC Radio New York.

00:28:31.120 No matter where you are in the country, you can listen to it at WABC Radio dot com because

00:28:37.640 it's live streaming in one hundred and seventy three countries.

00:28:41.040 Andrew, when can people listen to you at WABC?

00:28:44.280 Sure.

00:28:45.820 Sundays, eight o'clock at night.

00:28:47.720 Roger, you're on earlier, I believe, three, four o'clock.

00:28:50.220 I know you have two, three hours.

00:28:51.720 And I always love listening to you on Sundays, always have incredible information and great

00:28:57.500 guests.

00:28:58.480 But also we have a podcast called The Andrew Giuliani Show, which I post on my social media

00:29:04.600 as well.

00:29:05.020 You go to at Andrew H.

00:29:06.220 Giuliani on X on Facebook when when we're not being shadow banned.

00:29:11.320 And but but certainly on X these days.

00:29:14.280 All right.

00:29:15.500 I want to thank Andrew Giuliani.

00:29:17.380 You can hear him again.

00:29:18.320 You hear me from four to six Eastern time every Sunday at WABC Radio dot com.

00:29:24.760 And then later that evening at eight p.m.

00:29:27.140 Eastern.

00:29:27.940 Be sure to tune in for Andrew Giuliani's great show.

00:29:31.900 Andrew, thank you for joining us.

00:29:33.620 And please give your father our very best regards.

00:29:37.760 Troy, thank you so much, Roger.

00:29:39.480 I really, really appreciate it.

00:29:40.880 And, you know, again, we're going to we're going to fight.

00:29:43.720 We're going to win this thing.

00:29:44.800 We must.

00:29:45.980 All right.

00:29:46.340 God bless you.

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00:32:18.120 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone and this is the Stone Zone.

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00:33:18.900 Troy, let's kind of start here.

00:33:21.880 Robert Kennedy had a big press conference in Oakland, California yesterday, a little anticlimactic

00:33:29.780 because his selection for vice president, a woman named Nicole Shanahan, a Biden mega donor,

00:33:39.280 actually leaked almost 10 days before this much hyped up announcement, a presidential campaign

00:33:48.260 that leaks.

00:33:48.960 So while it's not a very good presidential campaign, Robert Kennedy worked very hard to

00:33:54.380 build suspense and public attention to his selection.

00:33:58.300 But unfortunately for him, loose lips, slit sink ships and somebody in his campaign based on

00:34:06.260 the story, somebody who wasn't happy with the selection of this woman, Nicole Shanahan,

00:34:12.400 who was formerly married to the founder of Google and evidently got a very, very, very, very,

00:34:20.880 very, very, very, very sizable divorce settlement as his running mate.

00:34:27.860 Now, she's a she's a radical progressive, has donated to Biden, the worst president in American

00:34:35.740 history, was a major financier of the Soros prosecutor in San Francisco, man named Gascon,

00:34:43.860 under whom crime has zored in San Francisco, has become one of the unsafest cities in the country.

00:34:52.320 I've got to check this, but I also believe that Ms. Shanahan is vaccinated and she may even be boosted,

00:35:01.800 which would seem to be kind of hypocritical in terms of her selection.

00:35:09.460 So, I don't know, Troy, I kind of think that this is about the money.

00:35:14.860 I think it's all about the money, which is kind of ironic because one of the major things that

00:35:20.460 Robert Kennedy is selling is the fact that he's not controlled by any special interest, that he

00:35:26.580 can't be bought.

00:35:29.500 Look, I've said from the beginning I thought his candidacy was interesting.

00:35:33.280 I thought some of his ideas were interesting.

00:35:35.720 I found other of his ideas repugnant.

00:35:39.440 I'm not for reparations being paid to people who never were slaves, never had, never were

00:35:46.360 involved in the slave trade or being paid by people who never owned slaves or whose ancestors,

00:35:52.060 I should say, never owned slaves.

00:35:54.500 He once said those who don't believe in the whole climate change hoax should be imprisoned.

00:36:01.040 I certainly don't agree with that.

00:36:02.900 He believes in abortion on demand right up until the time of birth.

00:36:08.940 Maybe the reason he left the Democratic Party is they believe in abortion after birth, what

00:36:15.220 Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a New York Democrat, correctly called infanticide. 0.93

00:36:21.580 But what did you think of this choice?

00:36:24.160 For those who like Donald Trump may have been thinking about potentially voting for Robert

00:36:31.040 Kennedy because they like his position on health freedom, I think this gives them a whole

00:36:36.620 reason to think twice.

00:36:38.920 Well, Roger, you know, I had that event on yesterday and I watched it very closely and

00:36:43.260 I watched the speakers before Kennedy came out and I watched his speech.

00:36:46.980 I watched his VP's speech.

00:36:48.880 And I got to be honest with you, they were kind of incompatible.

00:36:52.040 And that's what was weird, you know, just as a viewer watching it, because I think they

00:36:56.540 had some fantastic guests up there that were talking about very important things, whether

00:37:00.080 it was the quality of our food in this country, health, you know.

00:37:04.680 And while these things are important, Roger, I got an uneasy feeling watching it because,

00:37:09.880 you know, while I support those things, I don't think that it's the government's business

00:37:14.480 to regulate any of them.

00:37:16.920 And I think, honestly, the reason that we have chemicals in our food, the reason that

00:37:21.600 we have things that are so unhealthy in this country is because of the government regulations.

00:37:26.780 You don't make the government, the additional regulations from an RFK government would not

00:37:32.460 fix the problems.

00:37:33.800 The problems are the regulations.

00:37:35.420 And that's why President Trump was so successful, because he slashed the regulations.

00:37:38.920 So while I think the intent of the Kennedy supporters and himself are probably pretty good,

00:37:45.040 the message has become incompatible with itself.

00:37:49.720 And this candidate, I got to tell you, Roger, I was watching an interview.

00:37:55.020 If you want a crystal ball on what's going on in the DNC, all you have to do is watch Jen Psaki. 1.00

00:38:01.040 And she was on MSNBC a few days ago talking about how RFK is polling at 26 percent in Georgia

00:38:08.520 and other states.

00:38:09.080 Now, I haven't seen any poll that says he's polling at 26 percent.

00:38:12.940 In fact, Georgia was – I analyzed all the polling.

00:38:16.660 Georgia was where he was doing the worst.

00:38:18.980 So, you know, as somebody who kind of dissects the media, tries to figure this out, you're

00:38:22.880 looking at the Democrat National Committee.

00:38:25.340 Those kind of people are saying, well, RFK is a huge threat to the Democrats.

00:38:29.640 Yet people like you and I look at the polling and we say, well, he pulls disproportionately from

00:38:34.320 Trump.

00:38:34.780 That's a fact.

00:38:35.660 And yet his VP choice almost appears like he's trying to appeal to the Democrats, which

00:38:42.460 would go along with what the DNC is saying.

00:38:44.420 So I'm interested to hear your thoughts, Roger.

00:38:46.240 We discussed this a while back.

00:38:47.880 Do you still think that with Nicole Shanahan, RFK pulls disproportionately from President Trump?

00:38:53.700 Or do you think that switches what's going on here?

00:38:55.840 Well, the truth of the matter is, if you look at the national polling, it does appear that

00:39:02.580 Bobby Kennedy, at least initially, pulled disproportionately from President Trump.

00:39:09.640 But then if you look at it on a state-by-state basis, particularly in the swing states, when

00:39:16.340 you do a two-way ballot, you get a certain result.

00:39:18.840 When you then add the three minor candidates who may or may not actually get it on the ballot,

00:39:26.040 Robert Kennedy, Professor Cornel West, the Black Radical, and Jill Stein of the Green

00:39:33.880 Party, that's without yet knowing who the Libertarian Party will nominate, Trump's number

00:39:40.320 remains constant, and it's Joe Biden who takes a hit.

00:39:44.720 So it's beginning to appear that RFK pulls disproportionately from Biden.

00:39:55.380 If anything, this decision, which I think is just based on cash, Robert Kennedy's, this

00:40:02.960 is how I read it, his campaign is having a hard time getting on the ballot.

00:40:07.360 I predicted this right here on the show months ago.

00:40:10.460 Getting on the ballot is an arduous, arcane, difficult, time-consuming, labor-intensive,

00:40:19.780 extraordinarily legally difficult process.

00:40:23.940 Why?

00:40:24.820 Well, because the laws that govern how independent or third-party candidates get on the ballot

00:40:31.840 are written by Republicans and Democrats working together to make it as difficult as possible.

00:40:38.300 So they require, in many states, particularly the large swing states, an enormous number of

00:40:44.460 signatures from voters.

00:40:46.740 They have to be signatures that have not signed any other nominating petition for anybody else

00:40:52.960 running for president.

00:40:54.480 They have to be within a certain minimum number of congressional districts.

00:41:00.220 They have a very truncated time period in which these signatures have to be collected.

00:41:07.440 It's a monumental task.

00:41:10.680 So the selection of Nicole Shanahan tells me that that's not going well and that they now

00:41:17.820 believe utilizing paid circulation petitioners, who in many states have to be either sworn in

00:41:25.860 as notaries or justices of the peace, may, may solve the problem.

00:41:31.480 So here's the real irony.

00:41:33.580 Robert Kennedy, whose hallmark has been his independence, the fact that he's not beholden

00:41:39.820 to any special interest, has just made a deal, I think, for the money.

00:41:46.540 I'm told that that's a $50 million endeavor to get on the ballot.

00:41:52.840 He's only on the ballot today in four states, and those are the four easiest states in the

00:41:57.800 country to get on.

00:41:59.180 There are a few relatively small states where you just sign a form and you pay a filing fee.

00:42:06.820 But I think his campaign is up against it.

00:42:10.720 That's why a couple of weeks ago we heard these or we read these stories that said that he was

00:42:16.380 back in talks with the Libertarian Party again after previously kind of blowing them off.

00:42:24.140 Well, look, I was a member of the Libertarian Party.

00:42:26.820 There's a lot of very good people in the party.

00:42:29.340 There's some other people in the party who are anarchists who shouldn't be in any political

00:42:34.140 party.

00:42:34.740 But go figure.

00:42:36.400 On the other hand, in no way, other than perhaps in the area of health freedom, is Robert

00:42:42.520 Kennedy a libertarian?

00:42:45.540 He's he's not a libertarian.

00:42:47.680 Yeah, I like the fact that his position on closing the borders and his position on the

00:42:53.080 Ukraine war are similar to President Donald Trump's positions.

00:42:57.280 But if you want somebody who's going to close the border and you want somebody who is going

00:43:02.140 to negotiate a settlement for the Russian-Ukrainian war, well, then you simply have to vote for

00:43:09.580 Donald Trump, who, let's face it, has a real chance of being elected president and who will,

00:43:16.540 we now know definitively, appear on every ballot.

00:43:20.400 Well, we think he will, unless, of course, the plot being financed by vulture capitalist

00:43:28.960 Paul Singer succeeds.

00:43:31.740 Now, we've been breaking this down here on The Stone Zone.

00:43:35.100 It is absolutely clear that it is Singer, who is behind the insidious and nefarious effort

00:43:41.120 to get enough Republicans in the House to retire or stand down so that the control of

00:43:48.300 the House would turn over by one or two votes to the Democrats.

00:43:53.360 That would make Hakeem Jeffries, the radical leftist from New York, the speaker.

00:43:59.180 And they would very quickly pass legislation put forward by Congressman Jamie Raskin that

00:44:07.840 would prevent Trump from being on the ballot.

00:44:10.920 I guess they would codify the fact that they believe falsely that he participated in an

00:44:18.500 insurrection.

00:44:19.760 If that were to happen, the Senate would very quickly pass that.

00:44:23.240 They have control 5149.

00:44:25.640 Now, if you're sitting at home and saying, well, the courts will never allow that, you're

00:44:29.640 wrong.

00:44:30.080 Actually, the Supreme Court in the Colorado ballot access decision openly invited this

00:44:37.020 act of Congress.

00:44:38.740 We're going to talk about this some more when we come back with Troy Smith.

00:44:42.760 He broke this story with my assistance and is getting a lot of attention.

00:44:49.460 Folks, if you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone.

00:44:51.900 He's Troy Smith, my co-host from Slingshot.news, and we'll be right back after this message.

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00:47:03.280 Welcome back, folks.

00:47:19.500 I'm Roger Stone, and you're here at the Stone Zone.

00:47:22.920 I'm, of course, with my regular co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.

00:47:28.160 Uh, we've talked about this on the show extensively.

00:47:33.040 Paul Singer, the vulture capitalist, seems to be the financier of the effort to, uh, get

00:47:40.160 enough Republicans to leave their seats in the House to create a majority so that Hakeem

00:47:46.360 Jeffries, the black radical from New York, becomes speaker.

00:47:50.760 Uh, and they can pass legislation by the odious Jamie Raskin, uh, to bar Donald Trump from running

00:47:59.320 for president.

00:48:00.160 But, Troy, you've discovered, uh, that Mr. Singer's also active in the U.S. Senate in

00:48:06.500 an effort to strengthen the Democrats' hand there.

00:48:10.280 Tell us about it.

00:48:11.960 Well, Roger, it caught my eye just the other day that Lisa Murkowski was talking to CNN,

00:48:16.720 and while she was talking to CNN, uh, they asked her if she was considering becoming an

00:48:21.340 independent.

00:48:21.980 She goes, well, I'm considering, uh, you know, I'm very independent-minded, and she also was

00:48:26.580 talking about how she's, she's dismayed that the Republican Party is becoming the party

00:48:30.840 of Trump.

00:48:31.660 Now, you have to remember, Roger, it's an important point here, that Lisa Murkowski and

00:48:35.820 Susan Collins endorsed Nikki Haley for president.

00:48:38.780 We know for a fact, based on our report at Slingshot.News, that Murkowski, uh, has received

00:48:44.760 donations from Singer, uh, and so has Nikki Haley.

00:48:48.460 Nikki Haley, uh, received $5 million from Paul Singer just before, uh, the beginning

00:48:54.080 of this year.

00:48:55.280 On December 18th, 2023, Singer gave $5 million to, uh, the SFA fund, which was used to, uh,

00:49:02.560 promote Nikki Haley across the country.

00:49:04.120 And as you can see here, he's also a donor to Lisa Murkowski.

00:49:07.680 So the, the senator now, Roger, that's looking to strengthen the Democrats' hand, uh, the senator

00:49:12.700 that's weakening the Republican majority heading into a crucial election.

00:49:17.260 Uh, this same person has, uh, taken donations from Paul Singer.

00:49:21.920 And when we look at the mass retirement going on in the house, and we look at, uh, people

00:49:26.900 leaving, uh, uh, uh, chance, uh, and, and, and actually making it easier for the Democrats

00:49:33.100 to take it over and handing over a Congress to the Democrats, where they'll be able to ban

00:49:38.280 President Trump from the ballot, Roger, the fact that Paul Singer has his hands in every

00:49:41.840 aspect of it is very dismaying.

00:49:44.580 Now we released a new bombshell report just yesterday, Roger, that kind of expands on

00:49:50.400 this.

00:49:50.720 And we're going to get into that to a second here, but it goes a lot further than just

00:49:54.980 funding Republicans to retire and, and influencing Republicans in the Senate to leave their party.

00:50:01.240 It actually gets even worse.

00:50:03.620 We've got about five minutes, uh, Troy.

00:50:06.160 So why don't we do this?

00:50:07.260 I want to, that's too important a discussion to try to jam into a short timeframe, uh, since

00:50:13.260 you're from Maryland and you know a lot about it, this horrific, uh, uh, happening yesterday,

00:50:19.600 the collapse of the Francis Scott key bridge, by the way, Joe Biden says he remembers crossing

00:50:27.100 the bridge by rail many times, there are no railroad tracks on the bridge, just showing

00:50:33.020 you that again, the slip in his mental deterioration.

00:50:35.980 But, uh, look, they're going to call us conspiracy theorists, no matter what we say, uh, your quick

00:50:41.360 analysis of what actually happened, uh, yesterday at the bridge.

00:50:45.980 Well, Roger, uh, here's the thing.

00:50:47.860 Uh, general Mike Flynn called this a black Swan event.

00:50:50.380 Uh, Laura Logan, I think has published some very important information on this.

00:50:54.120 Uh, and, and, and I think her evidence, uh, I'm, I'm very interested in it and I'm paying

00:50:59.040 attention to it, but this is how I react to those kinds of things as we see train derailments

00:51:03.720 become, uh, more, uh, you know, they, they happen more often bridge collapses become more

00:51:09.020 often.

00:51:09.720 Um, and, and mistakes like happened with this cargo ship mistakes.

00:51:12.940 I say that because we don't absolutely know that it was a mistake.

00:51:16.000 Uh, there's been claims that the, the ship was hacked, uh, and steered into the bridge.

00:51:21.240 Now, what I do know is that I've been through the education system.

00:51:25.560 I graduated in just 2018.

00:51:27.280 So I know the people that our system are producing, they are not competent enough to run anything

00:51:33.000 from a McDonald's to a cargo ship, to a train, to anything.

00:51:38.280 So I would expect, uh, you know, or, or making a, I mean, Roger, something as simple, putting

00:51:43.340 a plane door on, we can't even do anymore.

00:51:45.520 I mean, the plane door flies off of aircrafts in the middle of flights all the time.

00:51:49.900 If people just kind of shrug their shoulders and say, well, you know, whatever, it's just

00:51:53.000 a consequence of, of DEI.

00:51:55.880 Uh, no, it's not about DEI.

00:51:58.000 It's not about race.

00:51:58.900 It's about the, to complete dumbing down of America.

00:52:02.200 And it has no preference on skin color.

00:52:05.260 It has no preference on whether you're rich or you're poor. 1.00

00:52:08.740 Uh, people are dumbed down. 0.93

00:52:10.540 And because of that, they go out into the workforce and they crash things and they wreck things. 0.80

00:52:14.520 And the number of people that were passed through a legitimate education system, the number of

00:52:20.380 those people dwindles and it gets smaller every day because those people are either retiring

00:52:24.860 or passing away or, you know, uh, doing something that's less strenuous, especially when it comes

00:52:30.280 to, uh, operating heavy machinery and things like that.

00:52:33.500 So I think that, you know, our, our country is slipping as a whole and these accidents that

00:52:39.300 have huge consequences and destroy a lot of things, um, they can be a lot attributed to

00:52:44.920 the education system and the dumbing down of America.

00:52:47.960 All right.

00:52:48.600 I'm afraid we're just about out of time.

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00:54:19.360 God bless you.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 27, 2024

Andrew Giuliani and Roger Stone Celebrate Trump’s Epic Legal Victory as NYC Crumbles — The StoneZONE

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