The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - November 12, 2026


Bessent Moves To A Bunker

Hegseth at War (With Congress)

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00:01:37 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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00:01:52 Well, the U.S. House of Representatives voted yesterday 211 to 204 to send Congressman Thomas Massey's privileged resolution, which were articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to the Judiciary Committee, effectively shelving it for the current lame duck Congress.
00:02:14 Massey is the only Republican to side with Democrats against this motion.
00:02:17 His eight articles allege misuse of authority related to the Iran War, operations in Latin America, and other matters.
00:02:25 Reading his eight articles, I found no impeachable offense.
00:02:29 Hegseth, at a rare Pentagon news conference, called the effort a political farce and a spectacle. 0.87
00:02:35 President Trump celebrated the outcome, labeling Massey a loser.
00:02:39 Indeed, Massey was defeated in the Kentucky Republican primary for re-election.
00:02:43 The move stops the process short of a full impeachment vote that ends at least this exercise
00:02:50 in pointless grandstanding. Be very clear here, however, I have little doubt that when Democrats
00:02:56 take control of the House in January, that they will put forward articles of impeachment against
00:03:02 the Secretary of War. Once again, I see no impeachable fence by this outstanding cabinet
00:03:09 officer. Congressman Massey has essentially outlived his usefulness with this sour grapes
00:03:15 effort to pile on with Democrats and assist in their partisan witch hunt. He appears to be
00:03:20 auditioning for a post-Congress role at MSNOW after he gets tossed from Congress in a couple
00:03:27 of months. The resolution never had any realistic path to conviction in the Senate. House Republicans
00:03:32 closed ranks behind Secretary Hegseth and the administration's priorities. Hegseth has served
00:03:38 administration honorably and stopped the woke agenda in our military dead in its tracks.
00:03:43 Hopefully, he was never getting impeached by a Republican Congress. This was just the
00:03:47 final temper tantrum of a congressman who crossed Trump and paid the price for it.
00:03:52 Meanwhile, Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besant, who I believe is among the president's
00:03:57 very best appointees, has relocated with his family from his private residence in the D.C.
00:04:02 area to a military base after Iranian threats against his life escalated beyond a quote-unquote
00:04:09 advanced stage, according to reports on Tuesday. The threats come as President Trump has chosen to
00:04:15 intensify the sweeping and crushing economic offensive against Iran, which has been spearheaded
00:04:20 by Besson, rather than resume major military operations, placing the Treasury Secretary at
00:04:26 the center of Washington's strategy to economically isolate the Islamic Republic. It was the New York
00:04:32 Times first disclosed the relocation, citing three people familiar with the matter who said
00:04:37 that intelligence about threats against Besant contributed to a broader U.S. assessment that
00:04:43 Iranian plots targeting current and former American officials had reached more advanced stages. A
00:04:49 senior administration official subsequently confirmed the move to Fox News, revealing that
00:04:54 the threats against Besant had progressed beyond advanced stage and directly attributing Iran's
00:04:59 targeting of the Treasury Secretary to his leadership of the administration's economic
00:05:04 campaign. Threats against Secretary Besant reached more than an advanced stage, which is why he and
00:05:08 his family made the move, the official said for the record. The move shows that the Treasury
00:05:13 Secretary regarding Iran is working because Iran is trying to get the architect of that strategy 0.77
00:05:17 and kill him. Treasury Department spokesman also confirmed the relocation, declaring that Besant
00:05:23 will not be deterred by the Iranian regime's threats and remains committed to carrying out
00:05:27 the administration's economic offensive aimed at crippling the regime's economy.
00:05:32 Since August, Besson has spearheaded Operation Economic Outcast, a sweeping campaign aimed
00:05:39 at economically isolating Iran through intensified sanctions, a tough U.S. naval blockade restricting
00:05:45 its oil exports, and measures targeting the international financial and commercial networks
00:05:51 sustaining the regime.
00:05:52 Beyond that, they have begun a new operation, Operation Iron Guard, that blocks off any land-based contacts with the regime.
00:06:02 This offensive, both offensive, extends beyond Iran itself, threatening foreign banks, businesses, and other entities who facilitate the regime's trade with exclusion from the U.S. dollar-based financial system,
00:06:13 while seeking to choke off all their oil revenues and funding for the Islamic Revenutionary Guard Corps.
00:06:19 I personally believe Scott Besson is the best Treasury Secretary he's come to have since Alexander Hamilton, but when I said that previously, I got a lot of guff about Hamilton, so let me rephrase it.
00:06:30 He is the best Treasury Secretary since William Simon, who served in that capacity for Richard Nixon.
00:06:36 I know the Treasury Secretary personally, and I happily call him a friend.
00:06:40 He is among the President's very best appointments and most effective representatives on the Cabinet, and I am praying for his safety.
00:06:47 I hope that you will join me in my prayers.
00:06:50 Meanwhile, House Republicans on Tuesday elected Jim Jordan as their minority leader for the next Congress.
00:06:56 He defeated Steve Scalise by a reported 106 to 73 margin.
00:07:01 Jordan, the Judiciary Committee chairman, will lead the conference as they need to fight the newly resurgent Democrats following the midterms.
00:07:08 Jordan will have his hands full.
00:07:09 The Democrats intend a tsunami of investigations into all of the Trump family members, Trump himself, cabinet members, and his many appointees and staffers.
00:07:21 I also expect there will be a tsunami of lawfare because in the first and second term, Donald Trump failed to prosecute people like Mark Elias and Norm Eisen and others who orchestrated the Russian collusion hoax,
00:07:37 the two fraudulent impeachments, the heist of the 2020 election, the raid on Mar-a-Lago,
00:07:44 the so-called documents case, the January 6th Fed surrection, and of course, Operation Arctic
00:07:51 Frost, in which Trump's donors, supporters, family, and staff were actively spied on by the
00:07:57 Department of Justice. Because the actors who orchestrated this tsunami of lawfare were never
00:08:04 prosecuted, they will be back with a new avalanche of lawfare. You can bet on that. They even started
00:08:09 a new organization. I think it's Democracy Forward. It's funny, by the way, how they always pick names
00:08:14 that are the exact opposite of what they are really doing. To my surprise, Senate Republicans
00:08:20 simultaneously reelected John Thune as their leader, despite efforts by some conservatives,
00:08:25 including Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Rick Scott, to delay the vote for further discussion
00:08:32 of the party's election losses. The Senate decision followed a 31 to 15 vote to proceed.
00:08:37 Though it was conducted behind closed doors, we don't really have a vote count. I frankly think
00:08:42 that Thune is a disgrace. The fact that he would not break the filibuster in order to get the
00:08:47 Save America Act passed. That's a simple measure which requires that one be a U.S. citizen to vote
00:08:54 in a federal election and that one have a photo ID in order to prove it. I really believe that
00:09:00 measure had 51 votes, certainly 51 with the vice president breaking a tie. But Thune insisted on
00:09:06 having 60 votes, a filibuster to bring it to the floor. It's really amazing to me that this
00:09:13 Karl Rove client, John Thune, continues in his ineffective role as a leader. Jordan's selection
00:09:21 is good news for those who want a stronger conservative leadership, who will stand up
00:09:25 and fight the Democrats. But Thune's continued leadership, well, that's just pathetic. 0.98
00:09:29 Senate Republicans have nothing to show for their time in the majority, 0.95
00:09:32 and they appear determined to avoid accountability for the midtermic disaster.
00:09:36 Why do these rhinos have to hide and keep the process closed,
00:09:39 rejecting any pause for reflection and rush to judgment?
00:09:43 What are they afraid the consequences or public would see if the votes were more transparent?
00:09:47 Why don't they want to have these votes where the American people can see them?
00:09:51 I'll tell you why. 0.97
00:09:52 They want plausible deniability so they don't take responsibility for Thune's pathetic failures. 0.98
00:09:57 I think all of these bozos should be primary. 0.94
00:10:01 Meanwhile, Senator Bernie Sanders, you remember him?
00:10:04 He used to criticize millionaires and billionaires, but now Bernie, he just criticizes billionaires.
00:10:08 That's because Bernie is a millionaire.
00:10:11 Bernie Sanders and his wife became multimillionaires when he skimmed the media placement fees off of his two unsuccessful presidential campaigns.
00:10:21 Now, normally those would go to an agency or a company that specialized in media placement.
00:10:28 But in this case, what Bernie Sanders and his wife did, taking the full 15 percent commission on all of the media they bought, while it is not illegal, it certainly is immoral if he never disclosed it to his donors that he and his wife were making money off of their campaign contributions.
00:10:46 Bernie, of course, drives a top-of-the-line Mercedes.
00:10:48 He owns three homes, and he travels almost exclusively by jet plane
00:10:52 because, you see, it is socialism for thee, but not for me,
00:10:57 when it comes to Senator Bernie Sanders.
00:10:59 But Bernie Sanders says he will not support Chuck Schumer's re-election
00:11:02 as the Democrat Senate leader after the party's midterm gains.
00:11:06 Sanders, speaking alongside Senator Alyssa Slotkin,
00:11:10 former and probably current CIA operative and senator from Michigan,
00:11:15 stated that the voters demanded new leadership and the time for change has arrived.
00:11:20 Slotkin has also withheld their support from Schumer, planning a clear governing plan.
00:11:25 It's not clear, however, whether anyone will actually challenge Schumer.
00:11:28 Several incoming Democrat senators have called for new leadership,
00:11:31 so it appears that there's some base of votes there.
00:11:34 Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland has been sounding out colleagues about a possible challenge,
00:11:39 but has not announced a challenge.
00:11:42 Schumer maintains that he expects to win another term as leader.
00:11:44 The leadership election will occur next month when Democrats formally organize their new majority.
00:11:50 The socialists are flexing their muscles after the midterm.
00:11:52 Sanders has long argued the party needs to move further left on economic issues,
00:11:57 and new Senate members give progressives more leverage.
00:12:00 Schumer's arrogance and his elitist connections may not be enough to carry him through this one.
00:12:05 Years of fundraising success do not automatically translate into continued control
00:12:09 when a significant faction of his caucus is unimpressed by those special interest dollars.
00:12:15 The challenge, even if it fails, forces a public debate about priorities.
00:12:19 Schumer's ability to hold the post will depend on whether he can still deliver the votes
00:12:22 inside a conference that now includes renegade members
00:12:26 who are not afraid of a messy public fight to defend their principles.
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00:12:56 In the meantime, the incoming, prospective incoming Speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, responded to a question on whether he would support efforts to bring the DACA recipients deported under President Trump's administration back by saying anyone, whether they are a citizen, whether they were here lawfully, whether they were DACA recipients who've been treated unfairly and unjustly by this administration, should get remedial assistance.
00:13:26 and the damage should be undone.
00:13:29 The co-host, one Amna Nawas, then asked,
00:13:32 I should point out it's been reported some dozens of DACA recipients
00:13:36 are among those already deported under this administration's immigration crackdown.
00:13:40 She asked very specifically of Jeffries,
00:13:43 would you support efforts to bring them back into the U.S.?
00:13:46 Jeffries responded, certainly anyone, whether they are a citizen,
00:13:50 whether they were here lawfully, whether they were DACA recipients
00:13:53 who have been treated unfairly and unjustly by this administration
00:13:56 need to be provided remedial assistance to them
00:13:59 to undo the damage that's been done to the country 0.99
00:14:01 to law-abiding immigrant families
00:14:03 and to the American people over the last 20 months or so.
00:14:06 Now, I do think that this is an important debate.
00:14:09 Republicans and the public remain completely opposed to amnesty.
00:14:14 Amnesty, to me, means conferring citizenship status
00:14:18 on people who have entered the country illegally.
00:14:21 That could be between 25 and 30 million people.
00:14:25 On the other hand, I do think in his 60 minutes interview, the president opened the door to
00:14:30 what makes common sense to me, and that is if someone is in the country illegally, but
00:14:34 they have been here for, say, 15 years, they have been gainfully employed, they've been
00:14:40 paying taxes, they've been paying into Social Security, they own a home, they go to church,
00:14:44 they've had no problems whatsoever with the law, they've lived peaceful, productive lives,
00:14:49 producing for our society, I do think there should be some temporary resident status.
00:14:56 That is not citizenship. That does not confer the vote on them. To me, that is a reasonable reform.
00:15:03 Now, there are some on the right, some Trump supporters who will say that that's a soft
00:15:07 position or that's amnesty. That is not amnesty. Amnesty is when you grant citizenship to people
00:15:13 who are here illegally, and I'm opposed to that. I still think the priority must be deporting those 1.00
00:15:18 who have crimes and criminal records, either here in the United States or in their country
00:15:25 of origin. You're listening to The Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. Don't go away,
00:15:28 because we'll be right back. The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative
00:15:34 on the Red Apple Podcast Network. Welcome back into The Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone,
00:15:40 your host. After their midterm games, Democrats are considering aggressive proposals that
00:15:45 include D.C. statehood, the Supreme Court expanding from its current base to 13,
00:15:53 elimination of the Senate filibuster, the national popular vote doing away the Electoral College,
00:15:58 the interstate compact, federal standards for elections, and new mechanisms to police
00:16:02 online speech labeled as different information. That's known as censorship. It violates the First
00:16:08 Amendment. Of course, the good news is that President Donald Trump has his veto pen at the
00:16:12 ready. D.C. statehood will pass the House on a party line vote. It did in a prior Congress would
00:16:18 add two reliably Democrat Senate seats. The popular vote compact currently hosts 222 electoral votes
00:16:24 and needs 48 more to control a majority. Court packing and filibuster changes would move existing
00:16:30 checks on majority legislation. Combined with federal election rules and content moderation
00:16:35 mandates, censorship, the package would shift structural advantages from one party for the
00:16:41 foreseeable future. Can they get away with it? Are Republicans up to the challenge of stopping
00:16:45 them? These items on their agenda are not a secret. Democrats are bragging about what they
00:16:49 intend to do. First, of course, they threaten to investigate President Trump, members of his
00:16:54 family, members of his cabinet, members of his staff, all of his appointees. That will be a
00:17:00 tsunami of a struggle. I would think that the president will assert executive privilege in
00:17:07 many of those matters which will lead the entire matter to court. Several of these crazier ideas
00:17:12 already passed the House in earlier sessions or were embedded in the Democrat Party platform.
00:17:17 With majorities in both chambers now, the procedure path is shorter than it has ever been.
00:17:21 Stopping this package of craziness requires sustained opposition, procedural discipline,
00:17:26 and public pressure. The midterm results did not ease the underlying constitutional design.
00:17:31 I, by the way, continue to believe that there is a conservative majority in the country.
00:17:35 At the beginning of the election, many thought the problem was Republican turnout.
00:17:39 In the end, if you look at the numbers of Republican turnout, that issue was addressed.
00:17:43 But what turned out to be true was that half of those Republicans we turned out were voting against us.
00:17:48 It doesn't mean they're lost to us forever.
00:17:49 This was a protest vote to send the Trump administration a clear message.
00:17:53 The president promised no future foreign wars, but he started a war because he thought it was necessary.
00:17:59 We promised them lower food and gas prices, which they did not get.
00:18:03 But anybody who thinks that this is a permanent realignment to socialism, that this is a permanent realignment to the Democrat Party, does not understand what took place in the most recent elections.
00:18:14 President Trump still has his executive power, his executive order, his veto capacity, as well, of course, as the bully pulpit.
00:18:24 And many of these issues will end up in the courts, which in the District of Columbia, of course, is not a good idea.
00:18:31 The D.C. courts are a rubber stamp for a left-wing Congress.
00:18:35 You'll never get a fair trial for any Republican, any free thinker, any Trump supporter in the District of Columbia.
00:18:42 This is going to be a struggle for our republic, but I'm convinced that the Republicans can bounce back in two years by going back to principles.
00:18:50 What the president has to do is what he did in his first four years, what he did in the first year of his second term,
00:18:55 which is to deliver for the American people when it comes to lower gas prices, lower food prices, more affordable and findable housing.
00:19:04 And I think the president has demonstrated that he knows how to do that.
00:19:07 Did it in year one of his second term, did it in four years until the covid vaccination scam in his first term.
00:19:14 I'm Roger Stone. We're looking forward. Not back. Don't go away because we'll be right back in the Stone Zone.
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00:19:30 With the election of a Democrat as the next governor of Texas, outgoing Governor Greg Abbott's Operation Lone Star border policy is on the chopping block.
00:19:39 and the end of this stopgap program will likely open a massive hole in border security,
00:19:45 allowing a Joe Biden-style migrant flood into the Lone Star State.
00:19:50 Already, new migrant caravans have launched in Mexico, 0.76
00:19:53 with criminal invaders gleeful insisting that the Democrat take over Congress 0.88
00:19:58 means the border will soon reopen and the U.S. welfare train will be back on track.
00:20:03 Yet the Department of Homeland Security has insisted in a post on X
00:20:07 that there's absolutely zero chance that the migrants will be allowed in the United States.
00:20:12 But what of Operation Lone Star?
00:20:15 The program started by Governor Abbott relies on the continued renewal of his emergency powers as governor.
00:20:21 Incoming Democrat Governor Gina Hinoza has clearly signaled she will not follow this path
00:20:28 by renewing the emergency powers that the operation is based upon.
00:20:32 At least one reporter is already claiming insiders have told them that Hinoosa intends to bring Operation Lone Star to a close before July.
00:20:41 In anticipation of the left-wing border drawdown, Democrat Houston Mayor John Whitmire and Austin Mayor Kirk Watson, both extremely liberal Democrats,
00:20:51 have already ordered the city police departments to stop working with ICE,
00:20:56 the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, on traffic stops,
00:21:00 the cooperation of which were forced by Governor Abbott.
00:21:04 Seems obvious to me to incoming Governor Hinoza that despite being a third-generation American
00:21:09 who still calls herself Mexican-American, she will end Operation Lone Star.
00:21:15 She voted against funding it when she was a representative of the State House of Representatives
00:21:19 in Texas, where she represented a far left Austin district. She's also been a strong critic of the
00:21:25 effort, calling it a waste of taxpayers' dollars and saying she would rather take that budget and
00:21:30 spend it on community policing, whatever in the world that means. Migrant caravans are already 0.98
00:21:36 targeting the Texas border with the expectation that the radical left in HOSA will remove all 0.68
00:21:42 barriers and let them flood unhindered into the USA, just like Joe Biden did. A Texas policy
00:21:48 Foundation analyst Eamon Blair told KTRH Radio that Operation Lone Star was an important adjunct
00:21:57 to Trump's more strict border security stance. You had the horse patrol, you had the APD units,
00:22:05 you also had the air support out there, the brush crew, and additional units. And he noted that
00:22:11 money that the state spent on operations aimed at closing the massive holes in the border left
00:22:16 opened by Biden and his regime were largely successful. It's true, illegal border crossings
00:22:21 under Donald Trump dropped to virtually nothing. But if the operation has abruptly ended, the
00:22:26 negative impact will be immediate, according to those who I have consulted. Caravans are already
00:22:31 starting to come up. You can see them in Honduras and southern Mexico. Their entire goal is to
00:22:37 inundate border patrol agents regardless of the funding and regardless of the manpower on our
00:22:42 board. Because of this, many Texans believe it is imperative that Operation Lone Star should
00:22:48 remain in place. The federal government has already signaled it will not simply step aside
00:22:52 to allow the new governor to throw open our southern border. But Governor Abbott's policies
00:22:57 were integral to keeping the border sealed. If the new governor shuts down this program,
00:23:02 the border choke points will open right back up again, allowing cartels to resume their drug
00:23:08 running, their human trafficking, to once again exploit vulnerable women and children
00:23:12 and criminal rapists and murderers to easily enter the country. 0.99
00:23:17 Migrants will once again lavish themselves with American welfare payments, free health 0.97
00:23:22 care, free education, free legal services, and other freebies as Democrats return to
00:23:28 the destructive Biden agenda.
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00:24:01 Meanwhile, former Trump attorney Alina Habba, now Alina Habba Mildon, was fired by Concord Partners, a Florida company tied to the family of Venezuelan banker Julio Herrera Velotini, who President Donald Trump pardoned back in January.
00:24:21 The November 4th termination letter cited her failure to perform duties under a shocking four-year arrangement valued at more than $50 million.
00:24:32 She retains an $8 million signing bonus and roughly $6.5 million in other payments she already received from the company.
00:24:42 President Trump had previously called this deal outrageous, said he opposed her receiving the money.
00:24:48 The arrangement involved a shell company connected to a pardoned foreign banker with legal troubles in the United States.
00:24:56 This is the kind of public corruption that turns voters off in the midterms.
00:25:00 It is absolutely true that I advocated for the pardons for six Americans who I believe were mistreated by the Biden Justice Department or the Obama Justice Department, including hero New York City police officer Michael McMahon or Governor Rod Blagojevich or Sheriff Peterson of Culpeper, Virginia, or many others.
00:25:26 Yet I never accepted any compensation in return for being advocates for those six pardons.
00:25:32 And I stand by every one of them.
00:25:34 That, by the way, includes President Juan Orlando Hernandez, who was framed by the Biden administration as a narco trafficker.
00:25:43 You can go to realhernandezstory.com.
00:25:46 It's a nine-part series that documents how the former president was framed.
00:25:53 But how about she be ashamed of herself for entering an arrangement that was going to look like a payoff tied to a presidential pardon?
00:25:58 I don't know whether she advocated for a pardon in this case or not, but certainly $50 million is a lot of money.
00:26:06 It was inevitable that the story would surface, damage the administration's credibility, and give critics ammunition against President Trump.
00:26:13 Taking the money after the pardon creates the appearance of influence peddling, regardless of any private instructions to stop payment.
00:26:21 It is, by the way, perfectly legal to advocate a pardon on behalf of any individual,
00:26:27 and there is no public disclosure required.
00:26:30 It is even legal to be paid in these matters, although I have never been paid in them.
00:26:35 Taking the money after the pardon created the disappearance of influence peddling.
00:26:39 The termination came too late to erase the damage, of course, which all took place before the election.
00:26:44 It should go without saying that Haber should never be considered for any other position
00:26:47 within the Trump administration from this point moving.
00:26:51 forward. This has been an embarrassing incident. Meanwhile, Ahmed Moore, a Palestinian-American
00:26:57 democratic socialist born in Gaza, announced that he will challenge Senator John Fetterman in the
00:27:03 2028 Pennsylvania Democrat primary. Moore, 42, has written for The Guardian, an extreme left-wing
00:27:10 newspaper, and co-edited a book advocating a one-state solution, meaning he supports an end
00:27:16 to the state of Israel. He criticizes U.S. aid to Israel, supports free health care,
00:27:22 free child care, and free housing, and says he is running on the rule of law. Remember,
00:27:27 when they tell you their slogan or the name of their organization, they're always actually
00:27:31 engaged in the exact opposite of what they call themselves. So when they're called the
00:27:36 Democracy Project, that means they're trying to destroy democracy. In this case, Fetterman
00:27:42 has drawn left-wing anger for occasionally aligning with Republicans in support for Israel.
00:27:47 So, in other words, the senator from Pennsylvania, who's been on my worst-dressed list,
00:27:53 I think three years running, I publish an international best and worst-dressed list.
00:27:58 Unfortunately, the senator from Pennsylvania has landed on my worst-dressed list.
00:28:02 I really don't think that cargo shorts and a hoodie are appropriate for the U.S. Senate floor,
00:28:07 but that's, of course, just one man's opinion.
00:28:10 But I do like the fact that Fetterman has demonstrated that he's not owned by the Democrat Party, that Fetterman has on occasion voted for common sense, even when it meant voting with Republicans.
00:28:22 The challenge is the first clear primary threat since Democrats regained the Senate.
00:28:26 Fetterman faces a reckoning for standing for common sense against the far left mob.
00:28:31 His willingness to break with progressive orthodoxy on Israel and other issues has made him a target.
00:28:37 Moore's platform represents the opposite direction.
00:28:42 And this will be a referendum on where Pennsylvania Democrats stand.
00:28:45 Look at what happened in Michigan when Abdul El-Sayed rose to become a U.S. senator.
00:28:51 Fetterman will be in for a real challenge here if he chooses to remain in the Democrat Party.
00:28:56 I've seen polling that shows that were he to switch parties to become a Republican,
00:29:01 he would handily win a Republican Party nomination.
00:29:03 He would then be a very strong general action candidate because he would get the Republican vote, yet those common-sense, blue-collar, ethnic, mostly Catholic Democrats in Pennsylvania who still believe in common sense, I believe, would stick with Fetterman.
00:29:18 If he stays in the Democrat Party, well, that means that Democratic Socialists of America are likely to claim another scalp within the Democratic Party, which may be going full communist faster than anyone could realistically, possibly, have believed.
00:29:33 Meanwhile, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Kuntz ruled that President Trump's $10 billion defamation lawsuit against BBC can move forward.
00:29:42 The case centers on a panorama documentary by the British broadcasting company that spliced together remarks from Trump's January 6, 2021 speech,
00:29:52 placing a line about walking to the Capitol next to a later statement to Fight Like Hell.
00:29:57 In other words, it was edited to make it appear that Trump was encouraging violence, which he was not.
00:30:03 The BBC has announced the edit was misleading and issued an apology, but it denies defamation liability.
00:30:10 The ruling found that Trump had plausibly alleged actual madness and reputational harm from the documentary, which was released shortly before the 2024 election.
00:30:21 The judge again ruled that the suit can move forward, meaning he rejected the argument by BBC.
00:30:27 This is excellent news.
00:30:29 The British Broadcast Corporation should be forced to pay deliberately for distorting the speech
00:30:35 and then air the result as, quote-unquote, journalism.
00:30:38 A $10 billion judgment would be a fitting penalty for a publicly funded broadcaster
00:30:43 that has spent years pushing partisan narratives and acting holier than thou as they deceive the public.
00:30:49 I gave one interview on the BBC prior to being charged in the Russian collusion hoax, and I had to shut down an offensive BBC talking head who kept insisting that I was a Russian spy.
00:31:04 By the way, the defamation laws in Britain are a bit more conducive to those who want to sue over defamation.
00:31:13 I don't know if the president has looked into that, but even if this lawsuit in the United States were thrown out of court, which it hasn't been, they would still be liable in the UK.
00:31:25 If Trump is successful, of course, this lawsuit will put the BBC out of business, and that will scare the daylights out of the rest of the fake news industry.
00:31:33 When major outlets face real financial consequences for manufacturing context, well, maybe they'll think twice before the next clever edit.
00:31:43 President Trump has already called the decision a huge victory, which it is.
00:31:46 Discovery and a potential trial will test whether the apology was enough or whether the damage requires a much larger check.
00:31:54 Lawyers for the BBC have attempted to contact me regarding any records I may have regarding January 6th.
00:32:01 That's a simple answer.
00:32:02 I have no such records. I wasn't in touch with the president on January 6th or in the weeks before or after or anyone else in the White House for that matter.
00:32:11 So I have nothing to contribute to this particular trial, but I'm glad to see that a federal judge won't let it move forward.
00:32:21 Two days of U.S.-mediated talks between Russia and Ukrainian officials in Abu Dhabi
00:32:25 ended without a broad peace agreement,
00:32:28 but the sides reached an agreement in principle on a large-scale prisoner of war exchange.
00:32:33 That's a piece of good news.
00:32:34 Exact numbers remain under negotiations but could be finalized within days.
00:32:39 Officials indicated the transfer would take place within two or three weeks,
00:32:42 with Ukrainian sources mentioning figures in the range of 1,000 to 1,500 prisoners per side.
00:32:49 American envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are preparing to meet with Vladimir Putin in Moscow
00:32:55 and then again with Volodymyr Zelensky in Dublin to brief both leaders on the discussions.
00:33:01 Territorial control, security guarantees, and Europe's role remain unresolved points of disagreement at this point.
00:33:08 This is good news for the peace process, though.
00:33:11 Substantial prisoner exchange is a concrete humanitarian step after months without direct talks.
00:33:16 It shows that limited progress remains possible, even when the larger issues of territory and security guarantees may remain stuck.
00:33:25 Kushner and Witkoff's immediate travel to Moscow and Dublin keeps the channel open and puts the results in front of the two presidents.
00:33:32 Every successful exchange reduces the number of people held and creates a small foundation for further talks.
00:33:40 The absence of a full deal does not erase the value of getting some people home.
00:33:45 This has been a sticky process, to say the least,
00:33:48 but perhaps the realization that victory is impossible from a Ukrainian point of view
00:33:51 is finally settling in. 0.88
00:33:53 I believe that to be the case.
00:33:55 It's time for an off-ramp before more people are thrown into the meat grinder of war needlessly,
00:34:00 and the peace deal may be the only thing at the end of the day 1.00
00:34:03 that keeps Zelensky's head off a pike in his own country. 0.97
00:34:07 Don't tell me this is about democracy. 1.00
00:34:10 Zelensky does not allow elections, has outlawed every party but his.
00:34:14 arrests journalists, arrests clergymen, arrests anyone who criticizes his government.
00:34:22 His regime is just as authoritarian as that of the Russians. And don't call me a simp for
00:34:28 the Russians because, well, my family members were mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest
00:34:33 in 1956. So when you ask me which side I'm on, I'm on neither side. I'm on the side of
00:34:39 ending the war and stopping the killing. Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone. Don't go 0.67
00:34:45 away because we'll be right back with more politics on the other side. The Stone Zone,
00:34:51 entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network. Welcome back into the Stone
00:34:59 Zone. Here's some surprisingly good news. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told supporters
00:35:05 that significant Make America Healthy Again, or MAHA, initiatives are now free to move forward
00:35:12 after the midterms. Speaking to an event in Washington, he said earlier actions such as
00:35:17 updating the food pyramid and removing mercury from dental failings on Indian reservations had
00:35:23 White House support, including from former Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. Other priorities remained
00:35:29 unfinished. Kennedy said that Stephen Miller, the new White House staff, met with him before the
00:35:35 election and pledged to put Maha at the top of the priority list once the midterms were over.
00:35:41 Kennedy has referred to the coming push as unleashing the Kraken. He declined to list
00:35:46 specific steps while the press was present, making clear he's already redone the childhood
00:35:51 vaccination schedule, and Secretary Kennedy has already blocked a number of toxins and
00:35:57 added supply. Oddly enough, ingredients and dyes that are illegal in Europe, but were legal here.
00:36:05 Thanks to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., they are legal here no more. So the Make America Healthy Again
00:36:11 movement is about to be unleashed. Now the political calculations are no longer holding
00:36:17 back the popular agenda. With the midterms behind them and Miller in place, the administration can
00:36:23 pursue food, pharmaceutical, and environmental reforms that are supported broadly by the public.
00:36:29 The support for reducing chronic disease and obesity and for lessening industry influence
00:36:36 does not depend on the outcome of any single election. Stephen Miller's stated commitment to
00:36:42 give the Make America Healthy Again movement an added boost through the next two years is very,
00:36:47 very significant. There'll be many inevitable impediments throughout the process. Big Pharma
00:36:53 is well-armed. They may be the most powerful lobby in Washington. They have unlimited money,
00:36:59 but Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is up to the task. This is, I think, a very substantial reason for optimism
00:37:08 for those of us who see the Make America Healthy Again priorities become the law of the land.
00:37:14 I believe that the 2024 election put together a new coalition that was disturbed in the most recent midterm elections.
00:37:25 It was a coalition of working families, blue collar Americans, most Republicans, not all, but most Republicans,
00:37:33 but a number of common sense Democrats and independents brought into the party by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:37:41 and by former Congressman Tulsi Gabbard, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard,
00:37:46 who ultimately joined the pardon as the Director of National Intelligence.
00:37:50 By the way, Tulsi Gabbard, who resigned that position because her husband contracted a very, very rare blood cancer,
00:37:59 is in good spirits, and the good news that her husband, Abraham, is making very solid progress in his recovery,
00:38:07 and she's anxious to get back into the arena once she has nursed her husband back to health.
00:38:15 She and Robert F. Kennedy are both very good friends of mine.
00:38:19 I think two of the standouts of the Trump administration in the case of Tulsi Gabbard,
00:38:25 her greatest public service, in my opinion, still lies ahead.
00:38:31 And reading this message that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has re-energized
00:38:35 for the last two years. The Trump administration is good news indeed. Anyway, thank you for joining
00:38:42 us today in the Stone Zone. We're here five days a week where we talk news, history, politics,
00:38:48 and sometimes we talk about food and style as well. Today is Veterans Day. I salute my father,
00:38:56 Roger J. Stone Sr., who served in the U.S. Army in Korea with great honor and distinction.
00:39:03 And also my uncle, Leroy Corbo, who served in Korea.
00:39:09 He was on the cover of Life magazine.
00:39:11 I brought that picture up and posted it online today.
00:39:14 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.
00:39:17 We'll be right back here in the Stone Zone.
00:39:20 Talk to you then.
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