Roger Stone joins me in The Stone Zone to talk about the Democratic National Convention in Chicago and why he thinks Sen. Kamala Harris is going to win the 2020 Democratic primary. He also talks about the police response to the protests at the DNC and gives his thoughts on how the police are handling the situation. And we get to the latest in the latest Slingshot news from the weekend, including the latest on the attempted assassination of Donald Trump and the possibility that he could be the next President of the United States. Finally, we have a special guest, Dr. Henry Sheinkoff, a Democratic Strategist who has worked in over 700 campaigns, both nationally and internationally, to join us to answer the question, can Kamala really win the Democratic primary? If you only listen to the mainstream media, you would understand that we are at the tail end of one of the great pro-hype jobs of all time. The country hasn t seen anything like this since they manufactured Wendell Wilkie as a candidate in 1940. And that's before we even get into the details of how the Democrats are using artificial intelligence and other techniques to make sure they re going to get their presidential candidate on the ballot in 2020. And if they don t win the primary, it s going to be because of the media s massive amount of money they've been spending on their campaign and the fact that they didn t even bother to bother to run a primary campaign at all. Let's roll the previews of what's to come in this election and see what's going to happen in 2020, shall we? And let's roll that clip from the clips from the protests in Chicago this weekend in Chicago! and get your thoughts on what happened in the aftermath of the DNC in Chicago on the day after the DNC Roger Stone's thoughts on the weekend in the wake of the protests and the chaos in the streets of the Democratic convention in Chicago. Roger's prediction on what's happening in Chicago, and why it's a good one. (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (23) (25) (22) (26) (27) (24) (And much more (25 )
00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.640Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.660He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.280As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.720and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.700Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.680And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:41.480Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:46.200Well, it's only 77 days until the next presidential election,
00:00:50.820but it's important to point out that early voting starts as early as September 17th in Pennsylvania.
00:00:57.700So there's even less time in this compressed campaign period.
00:01:01.700We've seen unprecedented events, including the attempted assassination of Donald Trump,
00:01:08.200about which we still have more questions than we have answers.
00:01:12.000A real coup in the Democrat Party in which Joe Biden was brutally forced from the race.
00:01:18.980And now the coronation of a candidate who no Democrat primary or caucus voter actually voted for,
00:01:27.960and whose past positions she's trying to erase while sounding more and more like Donald Trump.
00:01:36.280It appears that we have what was always going to be a competitive presidential race.
00:01:41.800Let me be clear, even if Joe Biden had remained the candidate because of the advantages of the mainstream media dominance of communication still in the country,
00:01:55.180no longer a monopoly, but still quite influential, combined with the widespread censorship on the Internet, including social media,
00:02:04.140and, of course, the millions of dollars money laundered through Act Blue to Kamala's campaign,
00:02:12.780this was always going to be a competitive race.
00:02:15.980And that's before we even talk about election irregularities, anomalies, and, yes, in some cases, outright fraud.
00:02:23.900We have a very important show for you today because we're going to be joined later by one of the leading Democrat and labor strategists in the country,
00:02:32.480Dr. Henry Hank Sheinkoff, to my view, one of the most brilliant analysts of American politics,
00:02:39.960one of the key figures behind the upset re-election of President Bill Clinton,
00:02:45.240someone who's worked in over 700 campaigns, both nationally and internationally.
00:02:49.960He will join us to answer the question, can Kamala really win?
00:02:55.980If you only listen to the mainstream media, you would understand that we are at the tail end of one of the great pro-hype jobs of all time,
00:07:23.040Donald Trump, of course, had used very harsh sanctions to cut the Iranians off from any cash.
00:07:30.040They were virtually bankrupt. The sanctions were so tough that the Iranians couldn't even sell their oil to China.
00:07:37.040That meant no money to fund their nuclear weapons development program, no money to subsidize Hamas and Hezbollah for the terrorist attacks on Israel.
00:07:47.040But this administration, under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, unfroze over $190 billion in assets, which has been used to fund the attacks on Israel.
00:07:58.040In the meantime, Israel, our longtime ally, to whom we already give $1.4 billion a year, is being restrained, or at least the administration tells us they're being restrained.
00:08:12.040This is a double game that is extraordinarily dangerous.
00:08:17.040The Democrat Party is split down the middle, as it was in 1968.
00:08:22.040I actually think it's more lopsided, because the progressive wing of the party has embraced not just the pro-Palestinian cause, but it seems they have embraced outright anti-Semitism.
00:08:34.040This is a giant problem for the Democrats.
00:08:38.040Well, and Roger, the tension is building, and it's kind of interesting because Kamala and her allies keep saying, well, we're kind of going, you know, we're for everybody.
00:08:48.040And they had Gretchen Whitmer. She actually ran out. This cracked me up. We posted this on Slingshot News.
00:08:58.040And they asked her directly about the Palestine. That's their line. Kamala loves everybody.
00:09:03.040But as you see from the footage there, folks, not a lot of love in the air at the DNC.
00:09:08.040And I find it interesting that, you know, they claim that, oh, Trump will throw the country into chaos.
00:09:13.040Look at what the Democrats have produced right there in Chicago, what they've done.
00:09:18.040Those are not right wingers, by the way, doing that protesting.
00:09:21.040Those are not people that oppose these people from the right. They're not Republicans. They're Democrats.
00:09:26.040It shows the deep fracture in the Democrat Party.
00:09:29.040And I would expect these protests to ramp up as the week goes on here.
00:09:33.040You're going to have a strong showing at first. But of course, those protests, I think, will ramp up as time goes on.
00:09:40.040So we have a clip here, Roger. I want to get your thoughts on President.
00:09:45.040President Trump is sending J.D. Vance across the country and he's making a lot of appearances.
00:09:50.040He's doing some great speeches. We have a clip from a speech that he delivered in the swing state,
00:09:55.040a crucial swing state of Pennsylvania today. And we're going to roll that clip.
00:09:59.040And I want to get your thoughts on Trump's chances in Pennsylvania, how that's looking heading into the 2024 election.
00:10:05.040Because I think most people, you look at the electoral map and the road to the White House really seems to run through Pennsylvania increasingly.
00:10:12.040So I want to get your thoughts and roll that clip of J.D. Vance's excellent speech today in Pennsylvania.
00:10:18.040Just one more observation about this. This is especially to anybody watching who is skeptical of Donald Trump,
00:10:24.040who remembers when the American media said that Donald Trump was going to start a nuclear war.
00:10:27.040Did anybody notice that the country and the world were at greater peace under the presidency of Donald Trump than anybody Democrat or Republican who came before?
00:10:38.040It's it's it's kind of amazing, actually, because I remember when all of you, meaning the media, all the media said that this guy was going to start World War Three.
00:10:49.040We are on the brink of World War Three. Thanks to Kamala Harris's leadership.
00:10:53.040We had to get strong American leadership back in there to bring a little bit of calm back to the world.
00:10:58.040Look, I think that the attempt by the Democrats to discredit J.D. Vance out of the box have failed.
00:11:10.040I think he's going to prove to be a great asset to Donald Trump. And everything he said is correct.
00:11:15.040They told us, by the way, that we would have a stock market crash if Donald Trump was elected president.
00:11:20.040We'd have World War Three. Yet we had the most robust economy in our history.
00:11:27.040The stock market hit record highs. We had prosperity in the country.
00:11:32.040And Joe Biden, despite what he says, has destroyed all of that.
00:11:37.040So to go to your question about Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania is going to be crucial.
00:11:42.040It's an extraordinarily difficult state. The Patriots challenged mail in ballots there as being unconstitutional under the state constitution.
00:11:52.040I happen to believe they are correct. They won that at the lower court level there.
00:11:59.040That decision was upheld in the middle courts. But then Pennsylvania's incredibly left wing and politicized Supreme Court reinstated mail in ballots, which, of course, is an open invitation for the Philadelphia Democrat machine to cheat.
00:12:14.040On the other hand, Cliff Maloney and many of his allies, including Charlie Kirk, have set records for voter registration.
00:12:24.040My good friend, my good friend, the resistance, they've done an amazing job in Pennsylvania and they continue to do so.
00:12:33.040So Pennsylvania will be crucial to this election.
00:12:36.040And I think that the radical views of the Democrats turn off blue collar working class union Democrats in the western part of the state who will vote more heavily than those in the eastern part of the state.
00:12:56.040So assuming that Kamala and her wacky running mate win the city of Philadelphia, even if they win in the suburban counties outside Philadelphia, which used to be Republican but now swing Democratic but not by huge margins, I think that gets offset by the counties around Pittsburgh and in the western part of the state.
00:13:18.040Right now, I think if the election were held today, I think President Trump has a narrow but sustainable lead in Pennsylvania.
00:13:26.040But I stress that anybody who says to you, what's happening in this election?
00:14:23.040Kamala Harris rising up to replace Joe Biden, who is the sitting president, as the nominee of their party.
00:14:29.040And so she's getting a boost from that.
00:14:34.040But as she's revealed her policies, her stock is actually tanking in Vegas and in other places where people can bet on this.
00:14:40.040And I know you've been kind of steady all along in saying that Kamala Harris entering this race doesn't strengthen the Democrats' hand really in any particular swing state or area.
00:14:51.040And I'd like you to talk about that for a second.
00:14:53.040You know, we've talked on this show about New Jersey possibly being in play.
00:14:57.040We've talked about other states, including Virginia, possibly being in play.
00:15:01.040When you're looking across the map, Roger, what are you seeing right now?
00:15:04.040Do you think that there's any areas that Republicans should particularly focus on where they can make headway, where they maybe couldn't do it in prior elections?
00:15:12.040You know, Troy, unfortunately, I think it's in a way it's too early to say.
00:15:17.040So, first of all, I'm not even sure how to correctly pronounce her name.
00:15:21.040And I know leftists are very sensitive about this.
00:16:36.040They're they're using that title, which I admit the media picked up and invented.
00:16:41.040But the job responsibility given to her by Joe Biden was clearly the policy on our southern border.
00:16:48.040Then she tried, of course, to pirate Donald Trump's proposal not to tax tips for for service workers, which, by the way, makes perfect sense because under the IRS code, gifts are not taxable.
00:17:02.040So a tip is a gratuity and gratitude for good service.
00:17:10.040That's not the payment of the salary of the server.
00:17:12.040So it's a gift and it shouldn't be taxed.
00:17:15.040She she she pirated that as if it was hers.
00:17:19.040Then she goes on after claiming she will seal the border and not tax gratuities.
00:17:27.040You see the real Kamala starts to surface.
00:17:30.040She's suddenly now going to give twenty five thousand dollars to anybody who wants to buy a home, as I said earlier, regardless of whether they could service a mortgage or not.
00:17:41.040That's a guaranteed budget buster and a crash.
00:17:45.040And she admits that she will just seize your company.
00:17:48.040She'll seize your patents if she feels like it.
00:17:51.040That's that's communism is what that's called.
00:17:54.040Even CNN and The New York Times panned her economic plan.
00:17:58.040So, yes, I think the bloom is off the rose.
00:18:01.040I want to remind people that joining us today in the Stone Zone, Hank Sheinkoff, probably one of the most brilliant minds in the Democrat Party, longtime Democrat labor strategist, somebody I have enormous respect for.
00:18:15.040We disagree on a lot of things, but I'm anxious to hear his take on this election.
00:18:22.040Now, seventy seven days between now and the election is misleading because early voting starts much sooner in various states.
00:18:31.040So I think it's incumbent on the president's campaign to define Kamala Harris before she tries to redefine herself.
00:18:40.040Now, what are we going to see this way?
00:18:42.040Well, we're going to see a lot of canned speeches using a teleprompter in which they tried to reinvent her as someone who's smart or someone who's articulate or someone who's capable of being president.
00:18:54.040None of which, of course, her record would indicate.
00:18:57.040In the meantime, I point out again, no one on one interviews, no full blown press conferences, no exposure to the media.
00:19:05.040That's because they know that they're stuck with a weak candidate who cannot speak.
00:19:10.040And then I would argue that the selection of Walsh is is potentially problematic.
00:19:17.040Now, again, they will say, oh, well, Walsh is more popular than J.D. Vance.
00:19:48.040He lied repeatedly about being in combat.
00:19:51.040Members of his own unit have documented this.
00:19:55.040He is also responsible for the for the damage in the Twin Cities during the BLM Antifa riots in 2020, when he delayed three days before calling in and activating the National Guard.
00:20:28.040Well, it is, you know, and Roger, it's interesting watching these rallies that you see, you know, Trump.
00:20:33.040I've actually seen Trump booed at his rallies before.
00:20:35.040You know, sometimes he'll mention something particularly.
00:20:38.040It doesn't happen much, but I remember back in the days of the covid vaccine.
00:20:41.040You know, there's a few times that the audience would would boo.
00:20:44.040And you hear a variation in their cheers.
00:20:46.040Some things they really cheer for, some things they don't.
00:20:49.040When you listen to a Tim Walls, Kamala Harris rally, every line is an applause line.
00:20:54.040And if you really watch it, you get the sense that, oh, this is just B-roll.
00:20:58.040I mean, what they're essentially creating is B-roll for news organizations around the country to show this wacky guy out there waving his hands around while these people cheer for him.
00:21:08.040And I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
00:21:10.040You know, Roger, I find it very suspicious.
00:21:12.040Now, we don't have any proof for this.
00:21:14.040I'm currently combing through a lot of these Democrat fundraising apparatus to see, you know, if there's anything that, you know, suggests this.
00:21:22.040But the fact that they're going from these arenas, you know, to basically no rallies at all, to arenas packed with Kamala Harris, who got less than 3% of the vote in the Democrat primary just a few years ago.
00:21:35.040It seems incredibly disingenuous to me.
00:21:46.040With the kind of media hype, free media hype that she gets, where these media outlets should be filing as an in-kind contributor with the Federal Election Commission to try to create this aura that she is surging.
00:22:00.040And then when she gets caught red-handed, or her supporters do, using AI to try to exaggerate the size of the crowds, those who point that out accurately, like Donald Trump, get ridiculed.
00:22:12.040Although it appears to me to be a master manipulation.
00:22:15.040Look, the country is relatively evenly divided.
00:22:19.040There's a hardcore base out there who is deeply infected with Trump derangement syndrome.
00:22:25.040And they'd be for whoever the Democrats nominate, no matter how unqualified for the job.
00:22:31.040And they would embrace whoever Kamala Harris and Barack Obama anointed for vice president.
00:22:38.040But as we outlined on this show, Walsh got on this ticket kind of by default.
00:22:45.040The early favorite, Governor Josh Shapiro, who is Jewish, was determined to be too divisive.
00:22:52.040And it was thought by Barack Obama and others that he would cost the Democrats Michigan and Minnesota with their large Muslim American populations.
00:23:03.040And I think that Mark Kelly of Arizona was looked at as a potential nominee with Obama knocking Walsh, pardon me, knocking Shapiro out of contention.
00:23:18.040But his connections to the Chinese communist company that builds and manufactures these surveillance balloons, like the one that Joe Biden let float all the way across America, ended up ending his potential candidacy.
00:23:55.040Their entire ticket is way out of the mainstream.
00:23:58.040But the Democrats are desperate to to pretend that the old Kamala Harris, the one who was a carbon copy on issues to Bernie Sanders, the one who wanted to defund the police, as I said, who wanted to decriminalize border crossings, who who had a record of being soft on crime,
00:24:16.040who criticized Joe Biden for his role in the 90 1994 crime bill, which created the harsh mandatory penalties for the first time nonviolent crime of possession of small amounts of drugs and then turned around and prosecuted thousands of African Americans in California for exact that exact crime.
00:24:39.040So on the one hand, she giggles about smoking marijuana herself in college, but then she locked people up for that exact infraction.
00:24:48.040They really want to to bury that Kamala Harris.
00:24:56.040And then, in all honesty, the erasure of Joe Biden here as if he was never president is really extraordinary.
00:25:04.040So Biden speaks tonight to the Democrat convention, and then he's immediately leaving to go on vacation.
00:25:13.040Now, I think his entire presidency is one big vacation.
00:25:16.040This guy spent more time on vacation than any president in history.
00:25:19.040But whether he is leaving out of peak because he's angry that he's been abused or whether he's leaving because the stage managers of this entire Kamala Harris, Tim Walz production want him off the stage and out of the public consciousness as quickly as possible because his record is a disaster.
00:25:42.040It's a record that he shares with with Kamala Harris.
00:25:47.040I'm not certain, but it does serve her purposes to shuffle Joe off the stage as quickly as possible.
00:25:54.040Well, Roger, President Trump has said multiple times we've played the clips on Slingshot of him talking about Biden.
00:26:01.040He says, I think Biden's going to make a comeback.
00:26:03.040And I think there's a certain level of joking there.
00:26:05.040But what I think he's really trying to highlight is the emotion of Joe Biden, who is obviously very angry about this.
00:26:16.040And like you said, there is a possibility that Joe Biden could be taken out by the same people who tried to just assassinate President Donald Trump in order to give us President Kamala Harris.
00:26:27.040But my point is that, you know, the people really behind the scenes that are orchestrating this, it looks like they are eager as possible to get Joe Biden out of the spotlight.
00:26:36.040It's something we're going to be touching on at the Stone Zone all week.
00:26:40.040And, Roger, you know, before we get to our interview here, there's one more thing I wanted to ask you about.
00:26:44.040And that is President Trump's endorsement of David Shore in Florida's state Senate race in District 7.
00:26:51.040Now, to my understanding, this endorsement comes opposite of an endorsement made by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:26:59.040I wanted to get you the opportunity to talk about this here because it sounds like there may be some tension here in this race particularly.
00:27:07.040Look, Troy, this is a national story only because this is a proxy battle.
00:27:12.040President Trump has strongly endorsed David Shore, a former sheriff in a county that is Flagler and St. John's County, while the incumbent Tom Leak has been strongly endorsed by Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:27:30.040So Leak is a rhino. The only thing you can definitively say about Senator Leak is that he's gotten very, very, very wealthy during his time of public service.
00:27:41.040He appears to be essentially an errand boy for Florida's insurance industry.
00:27:46.040You know, the one that won't cover your home if it's destroyed in a hurricane.
00:27:52.040So this is an important battle. The president rarely gets into state Senate races, but he issued an endorsement video of David Shore today.
00:28:01.040I've endorsed Shore. It's that race tomorrow, folks, August 20th in the Republican primary.
00:28:09.040Very, very key race to keep an eye on.
00:28:12.040To go back to your question that you raised, Troy, because it's an important one, and Kimberly Guilfoyle raised it with me earlier today on her great show, was whether they would be tempted to elevate Kamala Harris to the presidency in order to enhance her candidacy.
00:28:29.040That would require them to either force Joe Biden out under the 25th Amendment, which I believe New York Times Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Seymour Hersh is correct about.
00:28:40.040I think they already threatened to do that to get Joe to step aside.
00:28:44.040Would they now trigger that in order to remove him entirely, allowing her to take on the trappings and the prestige of being a president?
00:28:51.040Or, God forbid, would they would they take Joe Biden out the way they took out John Kennedy, the way I think they tried to take out Donald Trump only weeks ago?
00:29:05.040No, I don't wish that on Joe Biden, and I'm not trying to pray it into existence, but I'm also a realist about the stakes and the epic evil of the deep state combine that's trying desperately here to hold on to power.
00:29:20.040Well, and it's just it's a terrible situation, Roger, because Joe Biden, you know, he was put up there as kind of a puppet.
00:29:28.040He's put up there as somebody who is a real placeholder for Barack Obama and Barack Obama has pulled the puppet strings of his administration.
00:29:35.040And it's almost like they can't get rid of him.
00:29:38.040And the idea that this guy was let out to pasture, maybe just maybe you will have some leaks about Kamala Harris and things like that.
00:29:46.040Maybe you will have some things going forward because I would imagine that people like Hunter Biden and Jill Biden, who very much, you know, they have the connections there in D.C.
00:29:57.040They have to be extremely angry about this, maybe even more so than Joe, because, you know, obviously they're probably more coherent than Joe at this point.
00:30:04.040All right. Let me take a quick commercial break and then we're going to be right back with our guest, Dr. Henry Sheinkoff, Hank Sheinkoff, one of the most renowned political strategists for the Democrats and labor in this country, a man for whom I have enormous respect.
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00:34:21.040I think she can win Wisconsin and Michigan.
00:34:24.040But I think the other states are in real serious play, and I don't know how that all works out.
00:34:29.040Look, I agree with your overall analysis.
00:34:32.040This was always, by the way, going to be a competitive race.
00:34:35.040Any Republican or Trump supporter who thought even against Joe Biden this was going to be some kind of runaway or some kind of landslide, that was never going to happen.
00:34:44.040Both candidates in that race extremely well defined, both of them carrying both very polarizing, both of them carrying significant positives and negatives into the general election.
00:34:56.040I know some of my Republican friends were much too jazzed up in talking about a landslide and maybe looking at swatches of fabric for their offices in the White House.
00:35:07.040But I always thought this would be a tight competitive race.
00:35:10.040It seems to me that this shortened campaign period is beneficial to Kamala Harris because she's ill-defined.
00:35:20.040And if she can use the convention this week to further define herself as more moderate than she really is, that would be a huge advantage.
00:35:29.040It seems to me that the Trump campaign needs to focus on defining her as being someone who wanted to defund the police.
00:35:39.040Somebody who wanted to make illegal border crossings decriminalized.
00:35:43.040Somebody who wanted U.S. taxpayers to pay for the health care costs of all the people who are here illegally.
00:35:50.040Some of you described correctly on my radio show as a toxic mix for the Democrats.
00:35:57.040Somebody who wanted to ban private health insurance.
00:36:00.040And someone who now openly says she will seize your company putting out an economic plan that, wow, even the New York Times and the CNN panned.
00:36:09.040But the most important thing you said is that there's a lot to play out here.
00:36:16.040There are cataclysmic events yet to take place, including, I believe, two debates, one vice presidential debate, the play out of this convention, whether Joe Biden, what role he plays going forward, how visible he is.
00:36:33.040So anyone who tries to tell you today that they know how this election comes out, they have no idea what they're talking about.
00:36:41.040I think the president has a small advantage, but it would be a mistake to ignore the advantages that Kamala Harris has of a mainstream media support.
00:36:53.040And now I gather that Barack Obama has onboarded some of his top lieutenants like David Plouffe and Stephanie Cutter, Michael Stewart, I think it is.
00:37:06.040Do you think that, Hank, is the potential for, I don't know, friction within the Kamala campaign?
00:37:14.040When you bring new people in, as you know, Roger, from your own experience, you're going to have friction because the others who've been there before feel that they have been, that they have an ownership and a title to the property, which is the candidate.
00:37:27.040And they're not likely to be very happy.
00:37:29.040So it'll take some time to integrate those people and to create an operation that looks straight ahead.
00:37:34.040I also think a lot of what you're saying is accurate.
00:37:36.040If there is one case that someone finds during her tenure in the attorney general's office, remember the attorney general of California is the second largest effectively justice department in the country.
00:37:47.040Over, you know, oversized only by the federal government's Department of Justice.
00:37:53.040They find one case where someone she prosecuted or didn't prosecute was an illegal or immigrant who then went on to kill a police officer.
00:38:02.040God forbid, that ad will burn up, burn up the airwaves in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Pennsylvania and Georgia, unquestionably so.
00:38:22.040What they're used to doing is, well, I always said the Republicans would have blitzkrieg, the Democrats would have zitzkrieg.
00:38:27.040What they need to do is to get prepared for a battle that they think they already have fought and won, which is Donald Trump's personality, not so.
00:38:35.040They're going to have to deal with things like a lot of people believing that we were at peace until the Democrats took control,
00:38:42.040that the economy was better until the Democrats took control, and other kinds of issues that people feel, whether they are true or not.
00:38:49.040And it is feeling that elects people, not rational thinking.
00:38:54.040You make a number of excellent points there.
00:38:59.040I guess what I would say is that this is going to be very hard fought.
00:39:05.040But the idea that Trump's campaign team was unprepared for the withdrawal of Biden, that they had not prepared research and looked into the record of Kamala Harris, that they hadn't tested various themes against, is simply not true.
00:39:19.040They, like most Americans, saw the possibility of this coming.
00:39:23.040The advertising they're running, and also the advertising some of the super PACs are running, and there have been new FEC rulings about what you can and cannot share, has been very effective.
00:39:35.040I saw an ad, it's almost like you just described it, a story of a police officer who was killed by an illegal in California, but as a prosecutor, Kamala Harris did not seek the death penalty.
00:39:48.040And therefore his widow is of the police officers speaking out.
00:39:52.040See, I think personalizing that in a way that people can identify with the person is much different than just presenting people a cold, hard statistic.
00:40:04.040You know, the other thing that's going to happen here is we're going to see, you know, look, the tragedy of the George Floyd murder is evident by definition.
00:40:15.040But the fact the riots that occurred afterwards, and the riots around the country, and the governor of Minnesota can be accused of not taking appropriate action or sufficient action, and that event can be blamed for the riots in Portland, Seattle, New York, and cities around the country, that can become part of the discussion.
00:40:34.040Again, when there is chaos, when there is disorder, we know from our own history, from presidential elections that both you and I have worked on or been around, the people tend to respond negatively to things that are out of control.
00:40:44.040And they blame the party that are out of control.
00:40:45.040And they blame the party that is in power.
00:40:48.040And Walsh is going to pay for that, unquestionably so.
00:42:17.040They are just disgusted generally with government.
00:42:21.040They like the city of Pittsburgh overall.
00:42:23.040They like things that they have, and they don't like what is coming from the outside.
00:42:26.040That being said, you have Philadelphia, which, you know, turnout numbers have gone down in.
00:42:33.040The cut points probably in the Philadelphia suburbs may be a woman's right to choose reproductive freedom, reproductive rights.
00:42:42.040But Israel and the Gaza war may become much more important in the state of Pennsylvania than people realize it as a very large evangelical population.
00:42:52.040And evangelical voters across the board are much more strident in their support of Israel.
00:43:56.040Because in the more observant portions of the Jewish community, they will vote in lockstep for Trump.
00:44:00.040There are people in the center of the community who are going to vote in lockstep for Trump because they just don't trust Biden and Harris.
00:44:07.040And Harris now with Waltz on the Middle East.
00:44:10.040And they they understand what reasonable people understand, which is should Israel fail, Iran will triumph.
00:44:17.040And you can kiss the Mediterranean basin goodbye and the Red Sea shipping lanes, which is the exactly what Harry Truman kind of talked about in 1948 with the Truman Doctrine as it applied to the Mediterranean.
00:44:54.040We've seen kind of an unprecedented situation this election cycle with a with Joe Biden getting, as Roger said, 71 percent of the vote then getting taken out.
00:45:04.040My question to you is, you know, how many Democrat voters are going to stay home because Joe Biden was removed?
00:45:11.040In other words, you know, how what what percentage of Democrat voters are kind of disenfranchised by Kamala Harris being placed on top with no votes, you know, never getting any votes?
00:45:23.040I mean, my daughter told me the other day, she said, Daddy, how is it possible that you could just put a candidate in place without other Democrats making that decision?
00:45:32.040So there's some resentment you may hear at the convention.
00:45:35.040But overall, Democrats are likely to fall into line because of the visceral sense about that they have about Donald Trump, whether it is right or wrong.
00:45:45.040And the data is pretty clear about that.
00:45:47.040Yeah, I agree with that with that analysis.
00:45:50.040I think the electorate is so polarized, the Democrats so polarized against Trump.
00:45:55.040That's a motivational factor to turn out, even if they may be unhappy at the way Joe Biden was shunted aside.
00:46:02.040It's equally true, by the way, of Republicans.
00:46:04.040I mean, wouldn't matter who they nominated, whether it was Joe Biden or Kamala, the intensity in Trump's base vote remains extremely strong.
00:46:15.040It has to depend on that intensity, in fact, going into the stretch.
00:46:20.040We keep talking about 77 days, but early voting starts much earlier.
00:46:25.040And therefore, literally, we're at the juncture now where every single day counts.
00:46:30.040And there's a lot of advertising going on that not the entire country is seeing, but is being seen in the swing states.
00:46:39.040This, by the way, is not just by the Trump campaign and not just by Super PAC supporting Trump, but also by the Democrats, by the Harris-Waltz campaign.
00:46:51.040This whole thing is playing out, but not everybody sees it nationally.
00:46:56.040People say, oh, I'm not seeing any advertising for President Trump.
00:47:00.040I say, well, you live in Idaho, but what do you expect?
00:47:03.040I mean, so there's a, it is very segmented.
00:47:07.040There's a lot going on out there that doesn't, that doesn't come to the, to the attention of all the voters.
00:47:14.040One thing I've been incredibly surprised about, and which hasn't gotten that much commentary, is the inroads that Trump has made among Hispanic voters.
00:47:24.040I mean, traditionally Republicans were able to get roughly a third of the Hispanic vote.
00:47:30.040The great Ronald Reagan got in the high 30s.
00:47:33.040That was considered an accomplishment.
00:47:35.040George W. Bush got in the high 20s, almost 30.
00:47:39.040That was considered an accomplishment.
00:47:42.040Yet poll after poll after poll actually shows Donald Trump leading among Hispanics below 50, but typically leading Kamala Harris 48, 45 in that range.
00:48:33.040The, the incessant, you know, banging about gay rights, transgender issues and on and on tends to be a turnoff for that community.
00:48:41.040And thirdly, the, the migrants, that the people who provided by the rules, which is the, which goes, that kind of ads go back to the Nixon era, right?
00:49:34.040I mean, I think the economic argument, the argument of economic opportunity is a partial explanation about this surge among Hispanic voters by Trump.
00:49:46.040In fact, it was a Fabrizio Lee survey about a year ago after the, it was taken after the 2022 elections that indicated that those Hispanic voters who got their news in English were the ones who were moving more heavily to the Republican Party and towards Trump.
00:50:04.040And those Hispanic voters who were still getting their news in the Spanish language radio and cable were more likely to stick with the Democrats.
00:50:13.040It's interesting to me that the Trump campaign is now advertising on Spanish language radio, advertising on Univision, Telemundo, and some of the other crucial outlets.
00:50:26.040So clearly, they have taken this finding in their data to heart.
00:50:33.040Hispanic voters are going to be a crucial element here.
00:50:36.040And whether Trump can, in the end, hold on to and even build on the incredible start that he's had here under what was previously habitually and dependably Democrat voter group as going to be one of the absolute keys to the election.
00:50:53.040Troy, another question for you to Henry Shankoff, my friend.
00:50:59.040So, you know, we hear so much about Ted Cruz in Texas and the Democrats' efforts in Texas, and we hear also about Republicans trying to make gains in places like New Jersey and Virginia.
00:51:09.040I'm just wondering, in your electoral map, what you're looking at right now, I know you said it's a little early, but are you seeing any areas where the Democrats traditionally dominate, but they're going to have trouble or maybe vice versa, where the Republicans traditionally dominate?
00:51:22.040We could see something different this time around.
00:51:24.040I think the Texas thing is among the most hilarious things I've heard.
00:51:58.040I would think that you'd have to have a pretty different kind of day.
00:52:01.040My betting, though, is that if the Democrats win the U.S. Senate race in New Jersey, which I expect that they will, that you could very well have a Republican governor next year, which is just a resentment over the president's state of affairs.
00:52:15.040Other states where you might see twists and turns, North Carolina is interesting to me, because it's been able to go both ways.
00:52:55.040At the Association of Black Journalists, Donald Trump raised the issue of the ever-shifting claims of ethnicity by Kamala Harris, essentially for political expediency and benefit.
00:53:10.040Some people thought this was an enormous mistake.
00:53:13.040Other people thought that it needed to be said because it spoke to her chicanery as a politician and to her character.
00:54:02.040And it's going to be hard to convince them that that's not the case.
00:54:05.040And I also have a basic rule about American politics, which is no one minds really being a racist if they're in the normal part of the political spectrum.
00:54:31.040I think that this may be a personal battle, but everybody in the country and the world is watching.
00:54:37.040One of the classic mistakes that Republicans make is this belief that all people with dark skin or darker skin think monolithically exactly alike, which, of course, is insulting and wrong.
00:54:49.040And there are many divisions among people of color.
00:54:52.040People originated whose origins are in the Caribbean think differently than people whose origins may be in Africa.
00:54:59.040It's much more nuanced than I think any Republicans normally recognize.
00:55:42.040Wouldn't matter what anyone advised him.
00:55:44.040In the end, he makes his own decisions.
00:55:46.040I was heartened by this news that Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democrat Congresswoman from Hawaii, who's a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, served her country honorably in combat in Iraq and Kuwait, has met with the president, is going to work with him on debate preparation.
00:56:08.040Although that's a bit of a misnomer because he doesn't do traditional debate preparation.
00:56:14.040But he does understand Kamala Harris and her style and her record.
00:56:18.040And therefore, I think that may have some tremendous value.