The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Catturd Enters The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone as Donald Trump Picks a Winner in Senator JD Vance

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:09.080 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:13.440 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:19.060 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:23.060 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:30.000 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:35.420 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:42.640 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and you're back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:46.880 Well, the deep stakes are over, and President Donald Trump has chosen Marine Corps veteran U.S. Senator Yale graduate J.D. Vance for vice president.

00:00:59.480 This is a victory for the America first wing of the party.

00:01:04.020 All of the other finalists in this contest you would have to call neocons, where I think Vance, at 39 years old,

00:01:13.800 the same age that Vice President Richard Nixon joined Dwight Eisenhower, was chosen for the vice presidency, a momentous day.

00:01:23.840 Today's show, we will talk to a true American hero, Mayor John David Longo, who was there in the crowd when President Donald Trump narrowly escaped assassination.

00:01:37.940 The mayor shielded his own pregnant wife with his own body.

00:01:41.940 He, too, is a hero.

00:01:42.940 And we're also going to talk with Cat Turd.

00:01:47.080 Everybody loves Cat Turd because he's so pungent, and he tells you exactly what he thinks.

00:01:53.860 All today on the Stone Zone.

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00:02:07.660 Now, to help us bring all of this breaking political news down, my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news, Troy Smith, enters the Stone Zone.

00:02:20.220 There he is.

00:02:21.780 Roger, it's good to see you today.

00:02:23.340 And a historic decision.

00:02:24.740 I want to say, first of all, congratulations to Senator J.D. Vance.

00:02:27.860 I think this is a momentous picking, given the finalists of Senator Marco Rubio, who I respect greatly, and North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum.

00:02:37.060 I think President Trump made a fantastic selection here.

00:02:40.500 And I think, you know, going forward, Roger, you know, if Trump is able to secure a victory here, I think J.D. Vance's political future is very exciting for a lot of people in the Republican Party.

00:02:50.560 Yesterday, Roger, the future of the Republican Party was kind of uncertain.

00:02:53.960 Today, with this choice, we see a little bit clearly where you think the party will eventually be heading.

00:03:00.240 And I think it's a very important day, historic day, and a great choice by President Trump.

00:03:06.180 In all honesty, Troy, I think the president dodged two bullets this week.

00:03:12.060 The future of the party is now assured.

00:03:15.160 Look, I have a high regard for Senator Marco Rubio.

00:03:18.660 He does a tremendous job on constituent services.

00:03:21.220 I came to deeply suspect Governor Burgum after I looked into his record and saw his closeness to Microsoft magnate Bill Gates.

00:03:33.780 Also, his approval of the Communist Chinese buying a huge acreage very close to Grand Forks Air Force Base,

00:03:42.020 where some of our most powerful offensive technology is stored and evidently deployed.

00:03:48.200 These things gave me pause.

00:03:51.060 I do know at the end that media mogul Rupert Murdoch was calling Donald Trump three times a day to urge him to take Burgum.

00:04:01.600 Burgum had actually been Bill Gates' guest at the Washington, at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

00:04:08.040 And Burgum's wealth comes from selling his software company to Gates.

00:04:14.140 So, I saw him as a deep state ploy.

00:04:18.340 Senator Tim Scott did not demonstrate to me in the presidential campaign that he had what it takes.

00:04:29.060 So, in the end, the future of the party is assured.

00:04:32.580 The great thing about J.D. Vance, in addition to his youth, his energy, his military experience serving his country as a U.S. Marine veteran in Iraq,

00:04:45.880 but also the fact that he comes from humble, blue-collar background.

00:04:50.780 He, I think, will appeal to blue-collar Catholic voters in the Midwest, working-class voters.

00:04:56.880 He's a self-made man, an entrepreneur like Trump.

00:05:01.300 I think this was the best-case pick, given the finalists, particularly in view of the fact that he is specifically not a neocon.

00:05:09.080 He opposes, for example, shipping billions more to Ukraine, a position that is different than, say, Senator Marco Rubio or Senator Tim Scott.

00:05:18.440 We have to guess about Burgum's bona fides on foreign policy, but let's just say the signs are not good.

00:05:26.780 The other thing I know, Troy, is that Senator Lindsey Graham, who had early on been advocating for his seatmate from South Carolina,

00:05:35.720 Tim Scott, switched and became a hammer, pounding Trump for Marco Rubio.

00:05:41.380 And then when realizing that Rubio would not be chosen, just to try to destroy the candidacy of J.D. Vance, Lindsey Graham was unsuccessful in that endeavor. 1.00

00:05:54.340 So I'm very happy with this pick.

00:05:56.960 It ensures that the president has a number two man who supports the American First agenda, who is not a neocon,

00:06:06.500 who understands that the vice presidential candidate is a secondary role.

00:06:11.920 I really think he's picked the best person of the finalists.

00:06:16.200 I, as many people know, I recommended Tulsi Gabbard.

00:06:19.660 I think she would have been an intriguing and strong choice.

00:06:22.380 I'm disappointed that she wasn't chosen.

00:06:24.800 But in light of those who were chosen, I strongly support this ticket.

00:06:29.480 I think it is the right thing.

00:06:30.760 I wanted to ask you, if Trump is elected in 2024, this seat in Ohio, which has become more solidly Republican over the last couple election cycles,

00:06:44.320 I'm interested to hear your thoughts on what's going to happen there, because it's my understanding

00:06:48.120 that the vacancy created, if J.D. Vance is successfully elected as vice president in 2024,

00:06:54.800 the duty of appointing somebody to replace him is actually going to fall on,

00:07:00.080 I think most people call him a rhino Republican governor of Ohio, Jeff DeWine. 0.66

00:07:04.440 And I'm interested to get your thoughts on what he will do eventually here with the appointment.

00:07:10.420 Are you worried at all that we're going to lose J.D. Vance in the Senate and that they will put a rhino in his place? 0.51

00:07:14.960 Well, I have to look at when the governor's race is in Ohio, having a chance to examine those issues.

00:07:21.260 Yeah, I will say this.

00:07:22.720 If there's a vacancy for the U.S. Senate, then I'm for J.R. Majewski.

00:07:28.220 That's where I would go with that appointment.

00:07:32.180 He's always been America first from the very beginning.

00:07:36.460 Ultimately, perhaps he'll run for that seat.

00:07:38.820 But look, politics, as you know, a day is a lifetime.

00:07:44.420 And speaking of a lifetime, let me bring in our guest.

00:07:47.920 I read a great story at the Gateway Pundit by Jacob Engels about Mayor John David Longo,

00:07:55.060 who was present on Saturday when there was this horrific assault on President Donald Trump's life.

00:08:03.260 And there's still a lot of lingering questions about what happened and what the failures were of the Secret Service,

00:08:10.380 the failures of local law enforcement, a lot of vexing questions about what happened Saturday.

00:08:16.800 But here is here is one of the heroes of that day.

00:08:21.260 Mayor John David Longo joins us now.

00:08:24.080 Thank you very much for having me on, Mr. Scott.

00:08:30.020 Mayor, you are yourself a Marine Corps veteran.

00:08:34.080 You are also a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania with a master's degree from Slippery Rock,

00:08:39.220 and you're elected as mayor of the city that was the host,

00:08:43.600 or I should say the subdivision outside of Pittsburgh that was the host for Saturday.

00:08:48.660 It had to be a chilling and sorrowful event.

00:08:52.780 First of all, our prayers go out to Corey Comparatory, I think I said that correctly,

00:08:59.360 the firefighter who was tragically shot in the head and killed.

00:09:03.840 All prayers, as President Trump said in his statement to him and his family.

00:09:08.740 This is horrific.

00:09:10.200 But again, he died shielding others.

00:09:12.840 Tell us about your experience, Mayor.

00:09:17.000 Thank you, Roger.

00:09:17.920 I'm glad to do that.

00:09:18.660 You have to forgive me.

00:09:19.340 I tried to find a quiet spot, but Senator J.D. Vance was just nominated right behind me on the floor of the RNC

00:09:25.380 to be our vice presidential nominee.

00:09:27.420 So lots of excitement going on right now.

00:09:29.420 It's certainly a lot more joyous here than it was on Saturday.

00:09:34.740 But where to start?

00:09:35.860 You know, I was getting on the ground at 1130 that day with my family, my wife, my in-laws, my sister, my mother.

00:09:42.900 We were all reminiscing on President Trump's Halloween night visit to Butler County in 2020 and expecting to enjoy a day where, again, we're going to have that electricity in the air, that hope, that inspiration.

00:09:55.340 Unfortunately, that was stolen from us by a maniac who decided to do violence against President Trump and his rally goers.

00:10:02.720 So first, I just want to say before I say anything, I appreciate the kind words, but I'm no hero, sir.

00:10:08.640 I saw a ton of people do a lot of good, but I really just want to make sure that we focus particularly on a hometown hero, Fire Chief, Corey Compador, who lost his life that day.

00:10:18.760 I understand that he lived as a hero, as a firefighter, and he died as a hero that day.

00:10:23.440 So my thoughts and prayers go to him.

00:10:25.700 It's a mixture of feelings, Roger.

00:10:26.860 You have relief that your family and friends around you are safe while also trying to reconcile with the fact that there's somebody that didn't get to go home that night and a couple of folks who were very badly injured.

00:10:38.560 You know, so I just want to say, you know, I'm glad that it wasn't a whole lot worse.

00:10:44.340 And, of course, we're relieved that President Trump was able to rise in triumphant defiance from that moment and lead from the front.

00:10:50.740 I think it is absolutely obvious at this point that Donald Trump has the protective armor of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

00:10:59.400 It is absolutely clear that his life has now been spared twice.

00:11:03.340 As I said on my 77 WABC radio show this weekend, in the 80s, Trump was scheduled to fly from New York City to Atlantic City by helicopter with a group of his casino executives.

00:11:18.020 That was scheduled.

00:11:19.240 He delayed that flight, sent it on ahead.

00:11:22.060 The idea was for the chopper to return to New York and pick him up after he changed his schedule to meet with me.

00:11:28.360 I rushed up from Washington to meet with him.

00:11:30.500 I was in the meeting with him when we learned that that helicopter had crashed and everyone on board had tragically been killed.

00:11:38.180 I knew at that moment that Donald Trump's life was saved for some greater purpose.

00:11:43.000 This is why I began trying to get him to run for president as early as 1988, again in 2000, again in 2012.

00:11:51.960 And ultimately, of course, the Times met the man in 2016.

00:11:56.060 Mayor, I don't know what the role of your office is, but as you and I realize that you're at the convention focusing on renominating the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln and his great running mate, working class hero, J.D. Vance.

00:12:14.160 But have you had a chance to look at the role of local law enforcement, state law enforcement, the Secret Service and everybody that day?

00:12:22.920 Yeah, so let me start by saying this.

00:12:26.560 I'm the mayor of Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania, which is about 30 minutes away from the Butler Farm Show grounds where the rally took place.

00:12:35.080 Neither I nor my police department were involved in the planning of the security for that day.

00:12:41.940 Although our police department was called in after the shooting began to come in to help, lots of local police departments from the area were called in to help at that time.

00:12:50.920 And I don't have anything to comment on as far as, you know, police presence or security administration is concerned, because, Mr. Stone, the fact of the matter is, is I was there as a guest of the campaign.

00:13:03.880 I got the honor of participating in the in the free program, leading the rally in the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:13:09.200 And then right after that, I was escorted backstage with my wife to meet President Trump.

00:13:13.300 So I was having a conversation with President Trump about 15 minutes before he took the stage and the shooting began.

00:13:19.240 And so I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time observing much in the venue.

00:13:24.280 But what I can say is this.

00:13:25.800 The law enforcement professionals and Secret Service members who were on the ground inside the venue that day conducted themselves professionally.

00:13:32.540 They were clear and concise in their orders.

00:13:34.660 Folks respected them for that.

00:13:36.380 And whenever the shooting began, I did witness law enforcement officials in the Secret Service address that threat and neutralize it right away.

00:13:44.740 So that's all I can speak to as far as the law enforcement aspect of this particular situation is concerned, sir.

00:13:52.000 I think that's fair enough.

00:13:54.200 Look, we're in that aftermath where there's a huge amount of information flooding in.

00:13:59.300 Not all of it accurate.

00:14:00.960 Not all of it vetted.

00:14:02.020 Not all of it verified.

00:14:03.220 It's chaos right now.

00:14:04.420 So I think it is premature to blame anyone.

00:14:09.120 There appear to me on the surface to be some failures by the Secret Service.

00:14:12.880 But let's get more information before we make those judgments.

00:14:17.360 There even seem to be questions to me, in my view, as to whether we've identified the correct killer.

00:14:23.800 There's plenty of time for that.

00:14:25.440 Today, among other things, we celebrate the fact that despite the tragic loss of life and those who were injured, and by the way, President Donald Trump has set up a GoFundMe site specifically to benefit those families.

00:14:40.080 He's authorized it to be set up in his name, which shows you what a big-hearted guy he really is.

00:14:47.220 I think we focus on the fact that Trump's rise to the White House now appears to be inexorable.

00:14:53.080 The other incredible development is that Judge Eileen Cannon has thrown out the so-called documents case and ruled that on the basis of the presentations to her that the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.

00:15:13.800 Andrew Weissman, the MSNBC talking head, legal analyst, the guy who wrote my phony indictment, he claims this is an opportunity for the 11th Circuit to remove a cannon.

00:15:27.480 That's wishful thinking.

00:15:29.120 While the 11th Circuit may not, which is extraordinarily liberal, may not affirm cannon, the U.S. Supreme Court will.

00:15:36.380 The problem here is that the case is a solid one.

00:15:39.220 These same arguments were raised in my trial, where it was wrongly decided by a trial court judge and by the most liberal court of appeals.

00:15:48.220 So this sequence of events, the idea that he's being charged in Georgia and is making a mugshot public, would bring $141 million in small and medium-sized contributions to his campaign, a miracle.

00:16:05.300 The fact that the U.S. Supreme Court would rule that, no, you can't bar him from all 50 ballots, another miracle.

00:16:13.380 A just and fair Supreme Court immunity decision, a miracle.

00:16:19.520 The transparency of the fraudulence of the charges against him in New York so that his conviction actually backfires, brings in another $60 million, and even that sentencing is delayed.

00:16:34.420 All of these things, all of these things, to me, could not have been seen a year ago.

00:16:38.600 These are all miracles, and we have one God to thank for them.

00:16:43.660 Mayor, let me ask you this.

00:16:44.840 How is your wife?

00:16:47.140 She's a champion, Roger.

00:16:48.400 I've got to tell you, if it weren't for me trying to physically restrain her and keep her down close to the ground, she would have been up and helping.

00:16:55.740 It's just in her nature, she's the most helpless person that I've ever met, and she did help.

00:17:01.520 You know, she was helpful to those around her after the shooting had finished off.

00:17:06.760 She was very helpful in making sure that she was comforting our family members, in particular her mother and my sister.

00:17:12.420 And I'm just grateful to have such a strong woman to stand by my side in that moment.

00:17:16.360 All right.

00:17:18.240 All right.

00:17:18.760 I'm very happy that you could join us today.

00:17:21.300 I'm headed to Milwaukee myself.

00:17:23.640 Let's try to get a cup of coffee or a beer while I'm there.

00:17:27.160 I really look forward to meeting you.

00:17:30.100 And thank you for joining us today, Mayor, right here in the Stone Zone.

00:17:35.120 Thank you for having me, Roger.

00:17:36.400 We'll see you here on Tuesday, sir.

00:17:37.740 Thanks.

00:17:39.720 Excellent.

00:17:40.380 Thank you very much.

00:17:41.560 Folks, assassination is in the air, as people are talking about it.

00:17:46.740 We have a long, unfortunate history of assassination affecting our politics.

00:17:51.480 The assassination of Abraham Lincoln really gave the Democrats rise to resist Reconstruction,

00:17:58.340 the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, and other efforts in the South to thwart civil rights.

00:18:03.880 The election, pardon me, the assassination of President James Garfield gave rise to Chester

00:18:10.460 A. Arthur, who was a stalwart and thought to be a corrupt keeper of the port in New York,

00:18:17.160 but arose to be a reformed progressive Republican who took on big business.

00:18:23.140 Of course, legendarily, the murder of John F. Kennedy, which empowered Lyndon Johnson and

00:18:30.100 the deep state.

00:18:30.780 If these things are fascinating to you, then let me recommend my book, The Man Who Killed

00:18:36.700 Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:18:39.460 The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:18:43.080 In this book, I use eyewitness testimony, fingerprint evidence, as well as eyewitness testimony,

00:18:52.060 and, of course, deep Texas politics, to make the case that Lyndon Baines Johnson was the

00:18:58.000 head of a plot that involved the Central Intelligence Agency, organized crime, big Texas oil, banking

00:19:05.760 interests, and even some international interests to murder President John F. Kennedy on November

00:19:12.160 22nd, 1963.

00:19:14.340 You can get your very own signed copy of this potboiler by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com,

00:19:23.380 themanwhokilledkennedy.com.

00:19:26.500 The parallels between now and 1963 and 1968 are extraordinary.

00:19:32.320 If you're interested in history and politics and you want to know more about who really

00:19:37.080 killed President John F. Kennedy and why, let me recommend the book to you.

00:19:41.700 All right, Troy, we await, of course, the great cat turd, one of the most popular, I hate this

00:19:47.920 word, influencers, but a guy I love because he tells you exactly what he really thinks and

00:19:53.200 he pulls no punches.

00:19:54.360 But bring us up to date on the political news.

00:19:57.500 Obviously, the big news today are the selection of Senator J.D. Vance for vice president.

00:20:04.620 This is a smashing victory for the America First wing of the party, for the non-neocon wing 1.00

00:20:11.260 of the party, for the Republican establishment, because Vance, much like Trump, is an anti-establishment

00:20:18.620 Republican.

00:20:19.740 Well, Roger, I think you're exactly right.

00:20:21.900 And I don't want to, you know, overshadow that news.

00:20:24.760 I think that news is extremely important.

00:20:26.240 But there was actually news earlier today that I thought, you know, I really want to

00:20:30.520 get Roger's opinion on this during the show today.

00:20:32.860 And that was Eileen Cannon throwing out the documents case. 1.00

00:20:36.260 Now, of course, you know, the J.D. Vance selection kind of overshadows this.

00:20:40.360 But the Eileen Cannon, the case she's overseeing, the documents case in which President Trump's

00:20:47.640 Mar-a-Lago was raided with a kill. 0.98

00:20:49.640 They were OK to kill. 1.00

00:20:51.720 They were OK to shoot their way in.

00:20:53.520 The FBI raids Mar-a-Lago in this false documents case.

00:20:56.460 And now it's been thrown out.

00:20:57.480 And the reason it's been thrown out, Roger, is the most important thing here.

00:21:01.180 And that is that the Judge Cannon found that Jack Smith was illegally appointed.

00:21:07.040 So the DOJ does not have the power to have these special counsels that are completely rogue, not

00:21:13.100 confirmed by the Senate.

00:21:14.600 And I think that this strikes a death blow to the really the obstructionist policies that

00:21:20.800 we saw affect Trump's first presidency, where they were able to launch the Mueller investigation.

00:21:25.980 And even you, Roger, you were the subject of the Mueller investigation.

00:21:29.200 And and even though they had no evidence, they raided your home.

00:21:32.340 And it seems to me that this ruling by cannon completely destroys the lawfare tactics we've

00:21:38.180 seen from the Democrats since 2016.

00:21:41.280 Really interested to get your thoughts on what unfolded in this documents case today.

00:21:45.720 Let me say a couple of things.

00:21:47.220 First of all, yes.

00:21:47.960 In an illegal and certitiously recorded video some weeks ago, I did predict that the judge

00:21:54.520 would dismiss this case.

00:21:55.960 That's because I understand this argument.

00:21:57.940 Also, because I've read every pleading and every document filed in the case.

00:22:02.680 No, I don't know Judge Cannon.

00:22:04.340 No, I've never had any communications with her.

00:22:06.680 No, I've never met her.

00:22:08.020 I see this insanity online.

00:22:10.620 I reached my conclusion because I can read.

00:22:13.220 I'm also very familiar with the argument.

00:22:15.020 In my case, Andrew Miller, who had once worked for me, did not want to testify.

00:22:22.460 His attorneys raised this very issue.

00:22:25.080 They filed it in court.

00:22:26.480 It was denied by the trial judge.

00:22:28.400 It was denied by the Court of Appeals.

00:22:31.380 It never got to the Supreme Court.

00:22:33.620 But he made the same argument that Jack Smith's appointment is illegal because it's not provided

00:22:38.740 for anywhere in law and because he has never been confirmed by the United States Senate.

00:22:43.740 There's also no budgeting for his inquiry.

00:22:47.440 So someone who's not a sitting U.S. attorney and therefore has not been confirmed by the U.S.

00:22:54.200 Senate, given these sweeping prosecutorial powers, is unconstitutional.

00:22:59.760 I thought it was wrongly decided in D.C.

00:23:01.760 I thought it was wisely filed in Florida.

00:23:06.320 Former Attorney General Ed Meese, along with two very respected law school professors, including

00:23:13.040 Professor Stephen Calabrese, who is not a Trump supporter, filed a very impressive amicus

00:23:19.880 brief with the U.S. Supreme Court, also filed with the court in Florida.

00:23:23.680 I would note that the president's lawyers never raised this issue, never preserved this

00:23:29.520 issue in D.C., which means the D.C. judge, Judge Hutton, could still proceed on the matters

00:23:36.360 there.

00:23:37.100 We have to watch that in view of the immunity ruling.

00:23:41.100 I'm not an attorney, so I don't know where that stands.

00:23:43.800 But lawyers I do respect think it is highly unlikely that any trial could yet be brought.

00:23:49.100 And obviously, the ruling by Judge Kenyon will be appealed.

00:23:54.740 It'll go to the appeals court.

00:23:56.300 Then it'll go eventually to the Supreme Court, where I think it will be affirmed.

00:24:00.880 Either way, you could never have seen this coming in advance.

00:24:05.580 And it is another milestone in Trump's advancement to the White House.

00:24:10.960 I think you're exactly right, Roger.

00:24:12.860 And I'm interested to see exactly how this is going to unfold as well, because we were

00:24:18.040 watching the reports very closely here.

00:24:20.720 I feel like I have gotten like one hour of sleep since Trump's incident at the rally on

00:24:25.620 Saturday, Roger.

00:24:26.740 You probably have something similar going on as well.

00:24:30.380 But as this unfolds here, it's becoming more clear that not only is Trump going to be the

00:24:36.220 most popular person going into the 2024 election, not only is he going to, I think, break the electoral

00:24:41.580 norms that we've seen in the Electoral College over the last several years, which he's done

00:24:45.200 time and time again, I think the mechanisms by which they slowed him down in his first

00:24:51.060 administration are really being revealed for what they are, which are kind of baseless,

00:24:56.680 unconstitutional attacks.

00:24:58.780 And I'm interested to say, what do you think that this will do going forward if Trump's able

00:25:03.620 to win this election in his policy prescriptions and how he operates as a president?

00:25:08.420 I would have to think that not having the looming threat of somebody like Robert Mueller or Jack

00:25:12.880 Smith being thrown into his face over basically stuff that was created by Hillary Clinton, that's

00:25:19.180 got to take a huge weight off the presidency and allow him to do things like he did in lowering

00:25:24.020 energy costs, building the best economy ever.

00:25:27.200 I mean, that surely has to help him in this process, no?

00:25:31.020 I think that will definitely be true.

00:25:33.040 So, again, I still think there's going to be future litigation on this issue.

00:25:39.260 One thing is absolutely clear, just in terms of the news cycle, the attempted assassination

00:25:44.120 on Donald Trump completely wiped out the initiative by the Democrats to try to demonize Donald Trump

00:25:53.580 as supporting Agenda 2025, something that was produced by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative

00:26:00.040 group, but which is not in any way authorized or a reflection of Donald Trump's views or proposals.

00:26:06.840 President Trump wisely points to the Republican national platform that was adopted by the platform

00:26:12.280 committee and will be adopted by the full Republican national convention.

00:26:16.720 If you want to see Donald Trump's position, for example, on social security, well, then go to the

00:26:22.780 Republican national platform.

00:26:24.100 Now, it's true that a lot of Trump supporters, even some people who have worked for him, worked

00:26:28.880 on this Heritage Foundation think tank document, but that does not mean that it has Donald Trump's

00:26:34.600 imprimatur.

00:26:35.540 That is not totally an accurate reflection of Trump's views.

00:26:40.260 There are some things there that do reflect Trump's views, but on a number of issues, it is

00:26:44.520 not what he is running on.

00:26:46.560 Look, the Democrats have nothing to run on.

00:26:49.300 That's obvious.

00:26:50.440 They cannot tout a robust economy.

00:26:52.580 The best they try to dress up these numbers, we've had the housing and mortgage expert

00:26:58.780 and economist Barry Habib on the show, both on this show and on my 77 WABC radio show.

00:27:06.520 The employment numbers, the inflation numbers, the job creation numbers, all these numbers

00:27:11.240 are jiggered, but the American people do not feel economically safe.

00:27:15.740 The world is not a safer place with Joe Biden trying to incite war in two theaters.

00:27:21.720 We have shipped billions to Ukraine, but we don't even have ongoing peace talks or any

00:27:27.260 negotiations whatsoever that could stop the killing. 0.60

00:27:31.420 So they intend to run on Trump is a convicted felon. 0.99

00:27:35.980 Biden called him a rapist at a rally the other night. 0.87

00:27:39.180 He's not been convicted of rape.

00:27:40.620 That's a lie.

00:27:42.140 January 6th, they hope to recycle that canard.

00:27:46.000 Trump will make all abortions in America illegal, and he wants to cut your Social Security.

00:27:51.280 It is a pack of lies.

00:27:52.880 All right.

00:27:53.220 I just got the word that Cat Turd is in the house.

00:27:57.200 Welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:27:59.840 Hey, hey, hey.

00:28:02.100 God bless you, my brother.

00:28:03.620 These are great days, no?

00:28:06.340 What a weekend, huh?

00:28:07.300 I haven't slept at all.

00:28:08.380 I've literally gotten maybe two hours in the last two days.

00:28:11.180 Yeah, it's just we're now in this what I call information overload.

00:28:16.020 I mean, there's so much incoming both on social media and also in all mediums that it's hard

00:28:23.640 to digest all of it.

00:28:25.140 But one thing is absolutely clear, and that is there is a Trump juggernaut headed for the

00:28:30.300 White House.

00:28:30.840 Donald Trump has had a series of victories and developments that could never have been

00:28:37.300 foreseen, despite the fact that there are still obstacles that remain, including the

00:28:43.140 implacable opposition of the ruling elite and the deep state.

00:28:50.960 I, for the first time, can honestly say I'm feeling optimistic about our chances.

00:28:57.860 Yeah, I mean, it was like divine intervention this weekend.

00:29:00.580 I mean, I said on my podcast today, it's a miracle that Trump's here today.

00:29:04.200 I mean, I'm talking about milliseconds and millimeters, and I don't even know what else

00:29:09.980 to say about that.

00:29:11.300 I mean, I was watching it live, and I thought they killed him, man, because I mean, I was

00:29:17.260 watching it, and I just kind of saw the blood and saw him grab what I thought was his neck

00:29:20.940 and then fall down, and I was just like, oh, my God, they just shot him, and it was upsetting.

00:29:28.220 It was upsetting.

00:29:28.760 I had the same reaction of folks who weren't old enough to remember this, but in 1963, first

00:29:36.540 we heard media reports that President John F. Kennedy had been shot, and then it was some

00:29:41.300 time before it was confirmed that he had been killed.

00:29:44.860 So my heart was in my throat.

00:29:48.360 I felt the same way I felt when they tried to assassinate President Ronald Reagan.

00:29:52.920 We first heard that he's been shot.

00:29:54.520 Then we heard that he survived.

00:29:55.680 I heard it about Kennedy, as I say.

00:29:58.980 It was a harrowing moment, and it absolutely convinces me that Trump has the hedge of protection

00:30:06.280 of God Almighty.

00:30:07.720 He turns his head at precisely the right time.

00:30:11.700 It is a miracle.

00:30:13.760 My heart breaks for the family of Corey Comparatori.

00:30:18.180 I think I said it right.

00:30:19.060 The firefighter who's shot in the head and tragically killed just for being at a Trump rally, as

00:30:25.580 well as those who were wounded.

00:30:27.060 I can't imagine anything more.

00:30:29.760 I can't imagine anything.

00:30:31.020 Yeah, and he protects his wife and daughter.

00:30:34.720 And another thing that upset me, the day before he went, his last tweet was replying to me,

00:30:41.300 and that was upsetting to me.

00:30:45.220 Wow.

00:30:45.620 And I wanted to ask you about that specifically, because I found that profound doing the report

00:30:51.920 when he was identified, this heroic gentleman.

00:30:55.200 And I just wanted to ask, what went through your head when you learned that this gentleman's

00:30:58.440 last public statement was actually a reply to one of your Twitter posts?

00:31:01.740 I mean, that's pretty amazing.

00:31:03.080 Yeah, and it was.

00:31:04.180 I just did a kind of what's everybody getting into this weekend, and he was excited, saying,

00:31:08.800 and going to the rally.

00:31:10.640 And that was that day.

00:31:12.040 And it's just eerie.

00:31:13.420 It made me feel terrible.

00:31:16.260 And, man, my heart goes out to him.

00:31:18.520 I'm glad that President Trump put a GoFundMe for him.

00:31:22.120 And it seemed like he was just a hell of a guy.

00:31:26.380 So based on all this incoming you see online, and you have to take some of it with a grain

00:31:32.100 of salt, but there's so many anomalies here that just don't make sense to me.

00:31:37.260 As in the Kennedy assassination, under the Secret Service manual, tall buildings anywhere

00:31:43.380 in the vicinity of a presidential appearance are supposed to be searched and sealed.

00:31:48.380 This seems to be the only high building within several hundred yards, yet the gunman has

00:31:56.560 free access to it.

00:31:58.300 If reports I've read are correct, that a police officer climbed to the roof, saw the shooter

00:32:04.040 who waved a gun at him, but did not then report that incident, or that the Secret Service

00:32:11.000 was aware of his being there, aware of his presence, but delayed shooting him.

00:32:18.300 You don't know exactly what to believe.

00:32:20.340 I'm not trying to rush to judgment, but it seems to me like you've got some huge lapses

00:32:25.280 here.

00:32:26.180 What do you make of it so far?

00:32:28.880 Yeah, well, so I just have common sense, right?

00:32:31.220 So I'm just an old country boy, and I just have common sense, and that's what I use in

00:32:35.680 every situation. 0.90

00:32:36.440 So I look at things, and I'm like, okay, so this 20-year-old dork who lives at home, he's 0.71

00:32:41.680 never been on social media.

00:32:43.780 They've checked his phone today, you know, quote unquote, and said that there was no

00:32:47.620 motive, and then this guy somehow goes there that day and outsmarts the Pennsylvania State

00:32:55.000 Police, the local police force, the local SWAT team, and the Secret Service, and takes a

00:33:01.700 ladder, and I mean, how did he get the ladder there, you know, and I'm a construction guy,

00:33:06.220 you know, that's like a 24-foot extension ladder, a 16-foot extension ladder.

00:33:09.680 I mean, things are heavy, and he gets a ladder there, and gets a gun in there, and then crawls

00:33:16.160 on the roof, and you've got for three minutes people going, he's got a gun, he's got a gun,

00:33:19.920 and the audience, you can hear a gun, it's right there.

00:33:22.580 Look, man, a guy's got a gun.

00:33:24.840 And there's no, either of the most incompetent people that ever, in any event in history,

00:33:31.000 every one of them, there's some inside stuff going on, and I 100% believe the ladder.

00:33:37.320 It has to be. There's no way possible this happens.

00:33:42.320 I, and I posted about this, the Secret Service has said that the shooter is a man named Thomas

00:33:50.420 Matthew Crook. Others, I've been contacted by others, some in law enforcement who insist that

00:33:57.340 that is incorrect, that the actual killer is a man named Maxwell Yerick, who has a criminal

00:34:04.380 history of fighting with Trump supporters, a known supporter of Antifa.

00:34:10.760 I've tried to look at the photos and make an amateur's comparison, but it seems to me that

00:34:16.900 there's a rush to judgment to blame a guy.

00:34:19.660 And, of course, they're all touting the fact that he's a, quote, unquote, registered Republican.

00:34:24.840 Evidently, there's not much available on him.

00:34:28.460 Checking those voter registration records, because I had a report that he only became a Republican

00:34:34.520 recently, and did so to vote for Nikki Haley in the Pennsylvania primary.

00:34:40.540 If that is accurate, then this really does begin to smell very bad.

00:34:46.560 If you're just tuning in, folks, we're with Cat Turd, one of my good friends over there on X.

00:34:52.600 As he puts it, just a country boy with common sense, but who always tells you what he really thinks.

00:34:57.680 Cat Turd, how do you feel about this election of Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio as Donald Trump's

00:35:04.120 running mate?

00:35:05.620 Yeah, so, you know, I was going to support Trump no matter who he picked.

00:35:09.080 You know, he could have picked a pet rock, and I was going to support him.

00:35:11.900 But, yeah, so, to me, it was, we got to keep him safe, so it's who he didn't pick, more

00:35:18.500 important.

00:35:18.980 You know, I was like, you can't pick Rubio.

00:35:20.640 You can't pick, of course, Nikki Haley or anybody like that.

00:35:23.620 So he was, like, third on my list.

00:35:25.020 I wanted Ben Carson, but I'm totally fine with the pick.

00:35:29.380 Yeah, I mean, look, I'm in agreement.

00:35:31.720 I think everybody knows that my choice was Tulsi Gabbard.

00:35:34.520 I like to think outside the box.

00:35:36.580 I liked her, too.

00:35:38.100 Yeah.

00:35:38.720 Her military record, her status as a former Democrat, I think was an asset in a race in

00:35:45.080 which we have to win some Democrat votes and more independent votes.

00:35:48.440 I think she's an amazing woman with an amazing record. 0.91

00:35:51.840 She's had a political evolution in her own life.

00:35:55.240 People change over time when they get more information.

00:35:58.220 If you don't change when you're presented your views, when you're presented new information,

00:36:03.080 then there's something fundamentally wrong with you.

00:36:05.380 Ronald Reagan was not just a Democrat.

00:36:07.860 He was a liberal New Deal Democrat who saw the light.

00:36:12.780 I think that the great danger, as you just pointed out, Kat Turd, was those he did not

00:36:18.980 choose, those who are not America First Republicans.

00:36:22.420 They may be supporting Trump today.

00:36:24.320 They may be voicing their support for him today.

00:36:27.320 But that has not always been the case.

00:36:29.520 Now, it's true that Vance has said some things in the distance past that were critical of

00:36:34.640 Trump.

00:36:35.320 Not everybody who's for Trump today was for him in the beginning.

00:36:38.780 Some people had to see how successful he was.

00:36:42.220 You may not remember this, but he was going to cause the stock market to crash and drive

00:36:46.820 us into World War III.

00:36:49.220 Oh, yeah.

00:36:49.920 That's what they told us.

00:36:51.100 It was Armageddon.

00:36:52.140 That's what Nancy Pelosi said, Armageddon. 0.76

00:36:54.300 And, yeah, and so just like with Tulsi Gabbard and with him, I mean, they were both against

00:37:03.220 Trump eight years ago.

00:37:04.400 And as these people change and as they get more information, like they say, and you got

00:37:09.940 to remember, these are two young people, too.

00:37:13.220 And, you know, God, what was I thinking when I was 30 years old?

00:37:16.840 And so, you know, as they change and as they come around our side, we have to accept them

00:37:23.180 in.

00:37:23.380 There's some people that will just push.

00:37:24.880 Nope.

00:37:25.260 If you ever said anything bad about Trump, you're not.

00:37:27.160 And I agree.

00:37:27.440 We can't do that.

00:37:28.260 We need everybody we can get.

00:37:29.840 And like Tulsi Gabbard, I'll listen to her to her podcast sometimes.

00:37:33.420 She's she's totally well-spoken and unbelievable. 1.00

00:37:36.340 I mean, hopefully maybe he'll pick her in his staff somewhere.

00:37:40.360 Look, I hope that she gets a high level of federal opinion, federal appointment. 0.73

00:37:47.640 She could be secretary of state. 0.95

00:37:49.260 She could be secretary of defense. 0.96

00:37:50.500 She could serve in a number of roles. 0.99

00:37:53.660 She's an extraordinary woman.

00:37:55.600 Disappointed that she was not invited to speak to the Republican National Convention.

00:37:59.700 But of course, she's technically an independent.

00:38:02.580 She has not yet endorsed President Trump, although she's urged people to vote for him.

00:38:07.520 I suspect that that endorsement will come down the road.

00:38:12.420 What do you say, Kat Turd, to those who say, well, this is all great, but what if they just

00:38:17.360 steal it again?

00:38:18.460 In other words, they don't have the votes.

00:38:20.580 They know they don't have the votes.

00:38:22.120 They have a crippled, sadly, half-dead candidate.

00:38:25.840 We wish him well, but he does not look well to me.

00:38:29.480 He looks sickly.

00:38:31.200 They're propping him up.

00:38:32.860 I think it's elder abuse, to be honest.

00:38:35.960 And again, I think the backstage effort by Barack Obama and the establishment of the deep state

00:38:45.980 to force Biden out could not be more obvious.

00:38:49.720 When Obama posted after the debate on X, formerly known as Twitter, supporting Biden, I said, well, there you go.

00:39:00.060 The backdoor effort to drive him out has begun, and indeed it has.

00:39:05.280 Do you think that Biden will yet survive as a candidate?

00:39:10.560 It's so funny.

00:39:12.120 They stowed the election, and then they created this Frankenstein, right?

00:39:16.280 And now the monster won't go away.

00:39:18.480 It's kind of funny to me because he just, he will not go, you know?

00:39:24.500 He's just like, I'm not going no matter what.

00:39:26.380 And he's got Jill and Hunter up there, and they're just, I mean, they're just not going to release power.

00:39:31.480 So they can do a lot of things, take away his funding and everything.

00:39:35.580 But, I mean, every single day that they don't do this, and it's another day-to-day, it's harder and harder to do.

00:39:44.120 And, you know, they'll have to do it by the convention.

00:39:45.900 But if they put, it's hard for them not to put Camilla in there, and she's just as bad as him. 1.00

00:39:55.560 She's dumber than him. 0.99

00:39:58.080 You raise a very good point. 0.99

00:40:00.560 I mean, look, this weekend, both on my 77 WABC radio show and in a special edition of The Stone Zone, we obviously talked about the failed assassination attempt against Donald Trump.

00:40:13.360 My original plan was to talk about the civil war that's going on in the Democrat Party.

00:40:18.320 My sources tell me several things.

00:40:20.160 First of all, Joe is sleeping about 16 hours a day.

00:40:24.380 Hunter is now the designated gatekeeper and the chief political advisor.

00:40:28.980 He, with Jill, decide who Joe gets to talk to, who he gets to see, who he can take phone calls from, that he's increasingly isolated, that former Speaker Pelosi speaks to him, Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, who saved Biden's candidacy in the South Carolina primary, speaks to him.

00:40:51.300 Very few others can get through to him.

00:40:54.380 I also am told reliably that the reason that Attorney General Merrick Garland is so adamantly opposing release of the audio of the special counsel Robert Herr interview with Joe Biden over what Herr said in his report was the willful retention illegally of classified and top secret documents

00:41:20.380 and top secret documents is because the audio does not match the transcript that we have been given.

00:41:26.740 If that turns out to be accurate, if we ever get the audio, that would mean that this was a willful criminal act and there would have to be prosecutions.

00:41:37.380 You'll remember that Nixon tried to shield his tapes.

00:41:41.540 He said the White House tapes were protected by executive privilege.

00:41:45.840 Same argument that Merrick Garland is using today to hold back the release of this audio tape.

00:41:52.520 They have put out a transcript.

00:41:55.040 Nixon put out transcripts of his Watergate tapes.

00:41:58.420 The courts, the Congress and the people said that wasn't acceptable.

00:42:02.780 Catford, what do you think is going on here?

00:42:04.300 Oh, you know, you have anything Garland says or this DOJ, the FBI, assume it's a lie because that's because it always is.

00:42:13.860 So what you're saying is probably true.

00:42:18.060 This Garland, man, thank God he didn't get on the Supreme Court.

00:42:21.580 Huh, man?

00:42:22.840 This guy has just been he's I mean, he can't even answer any questions. 1.00

00:42:28.280 You see, I mean, the guy's dumb. 0.99

00:42:30.620 I mean, I hate to say it. 1.00

00:42:32.140 You know, he he's got some smarts doing stuff behind the scenes. 0.99

00:42:35.200 But, man, when they interview him or when they're like some kind of a hearing, man, this guy's I just think this guy's dumb. 0.98

00:42:43.520 But I don't trust him. 0.96

00:42:45.260 I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. 0.99

00:42:47.520 He he he's he's a he's a traitor. 0.73

00:42:49.980 He's he's turned the the justice system into just lawfare against Republicans.

00:42:56.960 So everything he's done from the I mean, just raiding Mar-a-Lago right there, which is all worthless today because it all got thrown out.

00:43:07.440 Troy, your thoughts on the controversy regarding Merrick Garland?

00:43:12.340 I watched that clip over and over again.

00:43:14.360 He basically talks about the rule of law.

00:43:16.920 He talks for respect for subpoenas, except for when they're not legitimate.

00:43:22.060 But on what basis does he say the House subpoena is illegitimate because it's politically embarrassing to them?

00:43:28.220 It's still legal and completely legitimate.

00:43:31.300 I don't understand where he gets the authority to decide whether a subpoena from the House is legitimate or not.

00:43:37.640 When I was subpoenaed in the January 6 matter, I fulfilled my legal obligation.

00:43:44.440 I appeared where I was supposed to appear, and I elected to invoke my Fifth Amendment rights, not because I had anything to hide, not because I'd done anything wrong, not because I knew anything whatsoever about illegal events at the Capitol, but because I'd had firsthand experience the way they twist your actual words into some kind of a process crime.

00:44:03.920 But Merrick Garland is held to a different standard.

00:44:07.420 It's amazing.

00:44:08.540 Yeah, and what you just said is what I've always recommended anybody that they subpoena, especially these skunks they got up there now, is to show up and just plead the Fifth.

00:44:18.520 I tell everybody, if they call you in, just do that because you see what they've done to Bannon and Navarro.

00:44:24.380 And the thing about it is he's done the same thing, and he's getting off.

00:44:28.100 I mean, the side-by-side, if Bannon's going to prison, he's getting held in content, and he's refusing to get prosecuted.

00:44:38.260 I mean, if that side-by-side don't show you the two-tiered justice system up front and up close, I don't know what else will.

00:44:44.920 Well, look, it's no secret that Steve Bannon and I have had our problems, but there's a legitimate issue of executive privilege in his case.

00:44:52.600 Trump sent him a letter invoking executive privilege on advice of counsel.

00:44:58.220 Based on that letter, he was advised not to testify because such testimony would be a violation of the law.

00:45:05.580 He followed the directions of his counsel, and he was charged.

00:45:08.900 I think that is unfair.

00:45:10.440 I think he's been unfairly convicted and unfairly incarcerated.

00:45:15.240 Peter Navarro's case is somewhat different.

00:45:17.600 The president did not evoke executive privilege.

00:45:20.160 In all honesty, Navarro should have done the same thing, General Flynn, and I did, which is fulfill your legal responsibility, but invoke your Fifth Amendment rights for what is, in fact, a witch hunt, a total witch hunt.

00:45:33.620 But the two-tier justice system examples go on and on and on.

00:45:39.100 Hillary Clinton lied repeatedly to Congress about material matters.

00:45:43.460 James Comey, I believe, lied 293 times to Congress about material matters.

00:45:51.260 Former CIA director John Brennan lied to Congress about spying on Congress.

00:45:57.760 And Clapper.

00:45:59.300 James Clapper told us, no, there's no metadata collection program operated by the U.S. government.

00:46:06.160 And, of course, the Snowden revelations prove that that was a lie.

00:46:10.260 All of these people, and many others, Andrew McCabe, others, have lied to Congress about material matters.

00:46:20.260 Any misstatement I made to Congress was immaterial, meaning it didn't hide or was related to some underlying crime.

00:46:28.040 Sorry, folks.

00:46:28.900 There is no Russian collusion.

00:46:30.920 There was no WikiLeaks collaboration.

00:46:33.240 The government produced no evidence.

00:46:34.840 To the contrary, it's a mainstream media meme.

00:46:39.260 It's a meme.

00:46:40.120 It's a recycled lie.

00:46:42.780 But anyone examines the facts knows it's true.

00:46:45.580 I'm sure you saw this, Cat Turd.

00:46:47.600 The other day, Fox reports, the Russians are going to interfere in the 2024.

00:46:53.800 Oh, yeah.

00:46:56.040 I know you just can't laugh at it enough, right?

00:46:58.860 Here they come again with the Russia. 0.97

00:47:00.600 And for the life of me, I don't understand how anybody can even listen to this propaganda media, Democrat propaganda media anymore.

00:47:11.340 I don't get it.

00:47:12.160 We have all this information online.

00:47:13.940 We've got all these great podcasts like yours.

00:47:16.700 I've got a podcast.

00:47:17.760 We've got all these regular people that are honest people that report honestly what they're thinking and honestly what's happening.

00:47:24.860 And you've got especially X is revived and Elon Musk is on board.

00:47:28.360 And you've got all this information. 0.93

00:47:30.220 And they still turn it over on CNN and listen to that complete propaganda garbage. 0.58

00:47:35.220 And I love it when CNN, what cracks me up is when they're talking about Russia and they're saying Russia does nothing but propaganda and they're 99.9% propaganda. 0.95

00:47:47.340 Well, first of all, I'm surprised that Vladimir Putin is still with him because I read so many stories that he was dying of prostate cancer.

00:47:55.460 He was supposed to be dead two years ago of prostate cancer.

00:47:58.420 I see these stories and I just, you have to wonder.

00:48:01.420 I mean, they just look like propaganda to me.

00:48:03.500 Troy, what do you think?

00:48:05.220 Well, you know, I think I can turn that into a question here.

00:48:08.980 And my question would be to capture it.

00:48:11.640 I was looking at your account before this and I realized that you had joined Twitter in 2018, which I found interesting because I've watched you all along and I didn't realize it had been that long.

00:48:20.540 So you've kind of seen the changeover in the old Twitter and the new Twitter.

00:48:25.180 And I'm interested to hear your thoughts on what, you know, what it's looking like now.

00:48:28.680 Do you think that we've seen reports from people like Laura Loomer and others who have said that there and Roger even has seen a decrease in some of their numbers and things like that.

00:48:37.680 Do you think that there are, you know, behind the scenes chains being tightening, tightened here on the censorship heading into 2024?

00:48:44.740 Yeah, well, definitely.

00:48:46.460 Definitely.

00:48:46.940 But it's all, you know, back then they would just throttle you or suspend you or like, you know, I survived somehow, but they removed 175,000 followers in a week.

00:48:58.500 And then they got where I couldn't make followers and they really did.

00:49:02.120 They had every ban on me possible for a couple of years.

00:49:05.200 They left me on Twitter, but I didn't have any reach for about two years.

00:49:08.560 But now it's all out.

00:49:10.120 I don't think they're like going, I'm going to specifically throttle you.

00:49:12.860 I'm going to specifically throttle you.

00:49:14.120 They're not doing that.

00:49:14.980 They're using algorithms and you, and you have to learn to beat their algorithms.

00:49:19.340 And that's why I've got three computers around me.

00:49:21.600 I've been studying these algorithms and there's certain words and phrases you use.

00:49:25.700 And yes, they do lean towards us as usual, but that's, that's what, why people are getting more throttled now.

00:49:33.400 It's these algorithms and you just got to learn how to, to, to, to beat them.

00:49:38.000 I know lives a tick tock.

00:49:39.520 She's, she's good at, she's kind of studied it like I have, and she's good at beating them and you'll see her use certain words and just leave out a letter here and there. 0.91

00:49:48.300 When you see that, that's what she's doing. 0.84

00:49:49.880 She's beating the algorithm. 0.99

00:49:51.860 Very interesting.

00:49:52.720 Alex Jones seems to have mastered this as well.

00:49:56.480 I've noticed that he gets enormous traction on X almost.

00:50:01.160 And every, when they do the ad shares, you can always tell what they're, they're, they're, there's certain words that you can use and they change every day.

00:50:10.540 Um, and if you, if you'll study your ad shares and see if there's ads on your, on your page.

00:50:16.220 Like I know yesterday, uh, this weekend, if you said secret service FBI, uh, stuff like that, I had five words written down that you couldn't all of a sudden use.

00:50:26.860 You wouldn't get an ad, so it's just, I mean, if you, if you want to, if you want your reach to be more, unfortunately, I hate the algorithms.

00:50:35.200 I wish it was just a free for all, but you kind of have to study them and figure them out.

00:50:39.180 And as they, uh, they evolve every week and then you can beat it if, if you can, I mean, I'm getting four or 5 million views on a lot of stuff this week.

00:50:48.480 And it's not because they said, oh, I'm going to release cat turd.

00:50:52.140 It's because I figured out their algorithms this week.

00:50:54.320 And I know like, and you can still say what you want.

00:50:56.620 You're not, you know, I'm not censoring myself at all.

00:50:59.920 It's just little words that you can just use a different word, but still say the same thing.

00:51:04.300 Well, of course the other alternative is to be boring.

00:51:08.100 See, if you're boring, uh, you, you have no problems with the algorithms.

00:51:12.160 You also, there's, uh, nobody would follow you and nobody would repost you and nobody would read you.

00:51:18.120 As Richard Dixon once said to me, the only thing in politics worse than being wrong is being boring.

00:51:23.220 Uh, yeah, I agree with that says it's not a uniform situation.

00:51:28.320 I will see peaks and valleys.

00:51:30.320 Sometimes something I see get enormous amount of traction.

00:51:33.500 The next day I'll say something that I think is pithy and brilliant and virtually nobody will read it.

00:51:39.300 I was very interested to see a guy named Indie worker, uh, critiquing my, he called them suspenders for all their braces.

00:51:46.420 Uh, he didn't like where the buckle was on my brace.

00:51:49.660 He didn't understand that's based on the length of the braces.

00:51:52.880 Now, uh, these braces used to be made with cat gut.

00:51:56.220 Today they're made with leather that buttons to your pants.

00:51:59.320 Uh, the ones made of cat gut are hard to find, but they're generally speaking longer, which means when you adjust them, the buckle is higher.

00:52:06.580 Uh, what I don't need is some 30 year old punk telling me, uh, about my wardrobe, uh, when I dress them to please myself and nobody else.

00:52:16.220 But you can find it, you can find all kinds of things on X.

00:52:19.460 I love the people who said Roger Stone was seen on Epstein's Island.

00:52:24.080 We know it was him because we saw his Nixon tattoo and he was wearing a bowl mask.

00:52:29.840 You know what this is? 1.00

00:52:30.680 This is bullshit. 1.00

00:52:31.800 Shit, that's what it is. 1.00

00:52:34.440 I'm the first, I'm the first, uh, major American author to completely and fully expose Jeffrey Epstein. 0.99

00:52:41.440 Go to my book, The Clinton's War on Women, and the longest chapter in the book is a full exposure of Epstein, the island, his little black book.

00:52:50.940 Uh, I, I cite all the names found on the FAA manifest for the Lolita Express, uh, his phone, uh, his, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, airplane.

00:53:02.060 Uh, I go deeply into the, the case, uh, of Virginia Jaffray, uh, the local, her local attorney who operated with me in writing the book.

00:53:12.440 So this is, this is, uh, uh, absurd.

00:53:15.060 There's a new phenomenon I want to warn people about.

00:53:17.780 There were recently a bunch of documents released because the Palm Beach Post, uh, sued, uh, to unseal a bunch of documents pertaining to Epstein's prosecution.

00:53:29.320 Uh, so there was a whole, a bunch of documents released recently.

00:53:33.720 No, there's no new shocking evidence tying Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein in there.

00:53:38.640 There's a couple telephone buck slips.

00:53:41.160 Uh, what we know about Trump is Epstein is on the record.

00:53:44.360 Trump, uh, cut Epstein off and borrowed him from Mar-a-Lago prior to Epstein being arrested and convicted of a sex crime in Florida.

00:53:52.840 Yes, he did.

00:53:53.580 The Clintons partied with him, took money from him, traveled with him, visited him after he had been, uh, convicted of a sex crime in Florida.

00:54:02.980 There's no evidence of Epstein giving Donald Trump a penny.

00:54:06.740 Yet, he was the funder for the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation.

00:54:12.700 Uh, and yes, there were two occasions in which Donald Trump was on Epstein's plane.

00:54:17.920 They flew from New York, uh, to Palm Beach and back.

00:54:21.500 Uh, and, uh, Donald Trump's then wife, uh, Marla Maples and their daughter Tiffany were also on the plane.

00:54:27.260 This is all public knowledge, but there's a campaign on X to try to pretend that Trump and Epstein had some connection beyond that which is known.

00:54:38.380 Uh, this is an ongoing campaign.

00:54:40.400 My good friend Liz Crokin had a great piece on X very recently on this.

00:54:45.480 Uh, I'm working on a substack piece on it myself.

00:54:48.480 Well, they, well, you know, if you get big enough on X and boy, have I learned it, right?

00:54:53.800 So if you get big enough, they're going to come after you with more lies.

00:54:57.300 I mean, the, the stuff they've said about me, they've, of course, I've been swatted three times.

00:55:01.820 They, you know, they cut the heads off rabbits and throw dead animals over my fence and death threats in my mailbox. 0.88

00:55:08.360 And, uh, um, I mean, everything they say about me is a lie.

00:55:11.280 They do fake screenshots, fake pictures.

00:55:13.180 One time they did an aerial photo, like a Google earth over, uh, uh, my house and put that I was a registered sex offender.

00:55:20.660 And then I, you know, and then I just slept with minors.

00:55:23.320 I mean, they're going to come after you.

00:55:24.720 They're vicious.

00:55:25.560 Cause I don't ever come after anybody like that, but, um, that that's what they're going to do to you.

00:55:30.340 So, you know, everybody wants to have a big X account and stuff, but just, I hope, I hope you got the balls to do it because they're going to, and it doesn't bother me because I know who I am and I've already, you know, and I'll be 60 this year.

00:55:41.660 I'm, I, I'm not a kid anymore.

00:55:43.420 And I just think it's hilarious.

00:55:44.780 You know, I just, I just look at it.

00:55:46.060 None of it ever makes me mad.

00:55:47.700 Matter of fact, you know, uh, the more y'all do that to me, the more money I make on ad shares.

00:55:53.340 So, you know, you're not, you're not even trolls anymore.

00:55:55.460 You're like my little employees.

00:55:57.760 There you go.

00:55:58.880 All right.

00:55:59.200 Unfortunately, we have to wrap it up and leave it there.

00:56:02.820 Okay.

00:56:03.160 We're honored and privileged to have my good friend, uh, the, the unvarnished, uh, truth teller, Kat Turd.

00:56:09.860 Kat Turd, I love your love of animals.

00:56:12.560 My wife and I are dog people.

00:56:14.440 We we've taken in, uh, strays.

00:56:16.620 We have, we have, uh, adopted, uh, dogs.

00:56:19.220 We've had nine Yorkshire terriers, uh, in our lifetime, including the two lovable.

00:56:25.300 We have now Mimi and Peewee, brother and sister, your love of animals, your sheltering and helping animals, uh, is noble.

00:56:32.860 As W.C. Fields, uh, once said, uh, uh, any man, he said, who doesn't love animals and small children cannot be all bad.

00:56:42.980 I don't agree with that.

00:56:44.120 I love the animals and I love you.

00:56:46.100 I do.

00:56:47.080 Thank you.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, I, I, I, I love them.

00:56:50.320 And, uh, thanks for inviting me and I appreciate it and I'll see you the next time.

00:56:53.660 All right. God bless you. All right, friends, I'm afraid we're out of time. Let me thank my

00:56:58.180 co-host Troy Smith and Kat Turd for joining us today on another exciting episode of The Stone

00:57:05.160 Zone. I'm headed to Milwaukee and we'll report to you from there. A man who's gone through hell,

00:57:12.760 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him. Not everybody,

00:57:19.360 but people love him and respect him. Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?

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