The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Cliff Maloney Defends Elon Musk as Liberal Heads EXPLODE over DOGE

00:00:00.000 with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:06.320 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:10.380 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:16.000 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:20.000 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:26.400 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:32.360 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:41.780 And yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:45.060 Donald Trump is in the White House.

00:00:47.700 Elon Musk is heading Doge.

00:00:50.040 And every single day is like Christmas.

00:00:53.000 In the last 48 hours, two monumental developments.

00:00:58.680 Former Illinois Governor Rob Blagojevich, an old-fashioned common-sense Democrat,

00:01:04.740 pardoned from the weaponization, probably the earliest victim of the political weaponization of our criminal justice system,

00:01:12.860 pardoned by President Donald Trump.

00:01:15.920 A massive uprising in Chicago of people demanding that he run for mayor.

00:01:20.280 We're going to talk about that.

00:01:21.580 And then, of course, the Senate confirmation of Tulsi Gabbard as the next director of national intelligence.

00:01:30.760 This makes deep state operatives guilty of treason, weak in the knees.

00:01:37.320 Patriot Tulsi Gabbard overcomes the combined opposition of the Socialist Democrats

00:01:44.040 and their deep state allies in the media who tried to smear this patriot as pro-Russian, that's a lie,

00:01:53.220 or as propping up Assad, another lie, now positioned to join the Justice League in the Trump administration.

00:02:02.560 This is turning out to be an all-star lineup in this cabinet.

00:02:06.840 Here to help me break this down and also talk to our guest, Cliff Maloney, one of the architects of Donald Trump's massive 2024 victory,

00:02:16.940 the man who pinpointed Pennsylvania as the pivotal state it became, predicted exactly how it could be turned around,

00:02:24.380 and then went out and did it, is going to join us.

00:02:26.480 But first joining me is my co-host, the publisher and editor of the Illinois Review, Mark Vargas.

00:02:34.640 Roger, it's great to be with you.

00:02:36.320 Thank you very much.

00:02:37.760 It's great to have you riding shotgun.

00:02:40.540 Let's go to our guest because he's a busy man.

00:02:44.960 Cliff Maloney is a true patriot.

00:02:48.060 As I say, he's one of the architects of victory.

00:02:51.760 What's amazing about Cliff is he set out his goals in public.

00:02:56.000 He told us how he would go about chasing down, first of all, registering,

00:03:00.840 and then chasing down mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania.

00:03:04.480 He exceeded his goals.

00:03:06.200 It was a shock to the political world.

00:03:08.180 Everybody told him he couldn't do it.

00:03:09.680 I knew he could.

00:03:10.780 Let's bring in my friend Cliff Maloney.

00:03:14.980 Roger, it's great to be in the golden age.

00:03:16.780 Thanks for having me.

00:03:18.060 So, Cliff, I want to show you what I got in the mail today.

00:03:21.400 Whoops, over there.

00:03:23.520 We were supposed to be matching.

00:03:24.980 I was hoping we'd rep it and match together.

00:03:28.780 I just got it out of the box today, but I will wear it on a show.

00:03:33.660 It's not my style.

00:03:34.840 It's your style, but I'm proud to have it.

00:03:37.700 You are so crucial to this victory we had.

00:03:41.260 And you have huge political credibility with me because at every step of the way,

00:03:45.740 you told me what was going to happen, and then you and your people were not living under,

00:03:52.160 you know, ideal circumstances.

00:03:53.960 I mean, it's a hardship to be out there working, pounding the pavement and chasing these ballots.

00:03:59.920 But at every step of the way, everything you told me would happen did happen exactly as you

00:04:05.520 said it would.

00:04:06.460 And Pennsylvania turned out to be, as you said, it would be the key state here.

00:04:11.700 So, I think congratulations and credit is due.

00:04:15.480 Obviously, the most credit goes to our candidates, President Trump and J.D. Vance.

00:04:20.060 But when people ask me, you know, who are the true architects of victory beyond Donald Trump

00:04:26.380 and the team immediately around him, I always say Cliff Maloney is one of those key architects.

00:04:31.720 So, congratulations off the top.

00:04:35.180 I appreciate that, Roger.

00:04:36.520 You know, it feels good to win, you know, when you set out to do something that everybody

00:04:40.720 said you couldn't do, except for you.

00:04:42.880 You've stood by me this whole time when we put out the plan to knock 500,000 doors.

00:04:47.520 And as I said a year ago on your show, you know, Trump getting 20% of the mail-in vote,

00:04:53.200 there was no way to win.

00:04:54.000 We had to fix that.

00:04:55.540 We had to get to 33%, obviously knocked 510,000 doors, locked in, 34.5% of the mail-in vote

00:05:03.140 for Trump.

00:05:04.240 And like you said, you know, it's a team effort.

00:05:06.440 You've got the candidate.

00:05:07.440 You've got different patriots like yourself, strategists, organizers, people like Charlie

00:05:12.620 Kirk, Scott Pressler, everybody coming together.

00:05:15.980 And this needs to be a permanent thing, right?

00:05:18.340 For those that think we can sit out for the next year, I got news for you.

00:05:21.100 Josh Shapiro, our governor here in Pennsylvania, he was back out on January 1, you know, so

00:05:26.920 we are relaunching.

00:05:27.880 We're going to double down, but we should enjoy the victory, but we got to be prepared to get

00:05:31.840 back to work.

00:05:33.420 Well, as I've said many times, I've had it up to here with Josh Shapiro.

00:05:37.340 This guy's got a lot of questions to answer about what he knew about what happened in

00:05:45.320 Butler, Pennsylvania, when he knew it.

00:05:46.900 That's one place to start.

00:05:48.160 Also, very controversial murder case in his state where he was, I think, attorney general.

00:05:55.000 And one of his heavy donors may not have been held responsible for their actions.

00:05:59.720 That's for another show and another time.

00:06:01.820 The Democrats are right back at it.

00:06:05.360 They may be hysterical.

00:06:07.220 They may be apoplectic.

00:06:09.160 That's because within the first month of his term, President Trump has accomplished more in

00:06:13.380 just a few weeks than he did in the entire first year of his first term, as he attempted to see

00:06:19.560 how deep the deep state really is.

00:06:22.660 Mark and I have talked about this.

00:06:24.060 I think the four years in the wilderness, the four years fighting the tsunami of lawfare,

00:06:30.960 really prepared him to be a much greater president in this term than he would have been

00:06:34.800 if he had been rightfully awarded the office when he won it in 2020.

00:06:39.500 The level of preparation, the level of strategic thinking, whether it's banning men from playing

00:06:48.060 in women's sports or whether it's banning the DEI policies, this is really amazing.

00:06:54.160 So, Cliff, what are your thoughts?

00:06:55.660 Have you seen the president knock out promise after promise after promise to rein in the 0.70

00:07:01.540 size and reach, I would say, even overreach of the federal government?

00:07:07.320 If you would have told me four years ago that we would all be, you know, singing in harmony

00:07:11.880 about how maybe it was better that he was not in the White House for the last four years, 0.87

00:07:16.240 I probably would have thought you were crazy.

00:07:18.240 But that is what I would say today.

00:07:19.920 I would say that him having those extra four years, all of us having those four years to

00:07:24.760 plan, to build infrastructure.

00:07:28.120 I mean, look at just the executive orders on day one and month one.

00:07:32.280 I mean, these things are every single day.

00:07:35.480 I mean, it's three to four times a day.

00:07:37.420 We're having something that, you know, over the past four years or even over Trump's first

00:07:41.560 term, like you said, would be a monumental moment.

00:07:45.000 We're dealing with those three times a day.

00:07:47.280 And I just have to say that, you know, I am so excited about what Elon Musk is doing

00:07:52.320 with Doge.

00:07:53.100 I am so excited about the potential.

00:07:55.560 Look, as a hardcore libertarian Republican, you know, this is my pipe dream, right?

00:08:00.920 To have somebody or have this Department of Government Efficiency set up, coming in, doing

00:08:06.280 what they're doing.

00:08:07.480 These executive orders that we've prepared for the last four years to be able to really just

00:08:12.560 gut and pull back some of this horrendous progressive policies of the left.

00:08:18.180 I mean, somebody usually gets mad about what politicians are doing, right?

00:08:22.720 It's always, oh, we can't do it that way.

00:08:24.980 Or, oh, that's not how we do things here.

00:08:27.600 Trump is just completely rewriting the playbook.

00:08:30.260 And I think it's going to have tremendous ramifications for the future of this country.

00:08:34.980 But maybe we needed those four years in a weird, odd scenario for us to prepare and to be able

00:08:41.260 to execute the way we are right now.

00:08:45.960 Mark, next question to you for our guest, Cliff Maloney, who for many months I called Mahoney.

00:08:53.280 And now sometime I call him Cliff Maloney, a.k.a.

00:08:56.980 Mahoney.

00:08:57.780 But my good friend, and as I say, one of the architects of victory here.

00:09:01.580 Without your effort, Cliff, I don't think we'd have carried you Pennsylvania.

00:09:04.180 I'm not taking anything away from Charlie Kirk or Scott Pressler.

00:09:08.100 Key players in this whole movement.

00:09:10.460 Could have been done without them either.

00:09:12.060 But I think you've got to credit where credit is due.

00:09:14.780 Mark, go ahead.

00:09:16.760 Cliff, remarkable job.

00:09:18.480 And I love the hat, by the way.

00:09:20.320 But I've got a question for you.

00:09:22.000 You know, we're seeing states like Illinois, where President Trump gained 600,000 votes,

00:09:28.020 flipped several very dark blue Democratic wards in Chicago,

00:09:32.820 flipped them red without spending a single dime in that state,

00:09:37.960 without ever visiting Illinois or holding a campaign rally.

00:09:42.840 And we saw these significant gains.

00:09:45.380 From your experience on the ground there in Pennsylvania,

00:09:48.560 what are some thoughts to folks in states like Illinois,

00:09:54.020 where we can begin to see massive gains and of state go from blue to red?

00:10:00.100 What are your thoughts or advice for those grassroots activists in states like Illinois,

00:10:06.440 where we're seeing tremendous gains without any resources being dumped into the state?

00:10:11.840 Yeah, well, let's remember, in Pennsylvania, I mean, we were down by over 700,000 registrations

00:10:18.480 back in the 2020 election when you look at Republicans versus Democrats.

00:10:22.820 And so I always say to folks in blue states, you know, there's two major things I look at.

00:10:27.500 You know, what's organic and what's organized?

00:10:29.640 That's how I like to break it down.

00:10:31.020 Organic versus organized.

00:10:32.520 So because of Donald Trump's popularity, because of the left really just being unhinged

00:10:37.780 with a candidate for, you know, three and a half years that couldn't put a sentence together,

00:10:42.000 let alone try to put a sandwich together.

00:10:43.920 I mean, he really struggled, as we all know.

00:10:46.360 But that was organic support for us, right?

00:10:49.080 And that's where you saw, even in 2024, the organic support,

00:10:52.540 the organic movement towards Trump based on the messaging, based on the policies, right?

00:10:58.320 And we're not spending money.

00:10:59.340 I'm not talking about organization, right?

00:11:01.020 You mentioned it.

00:11:01.620 There were certain precincts, certain counties that were able to flip and move in Trump's direction heavily

00:11:07.440 without any type of ad spend, with no money and no resources directed there.

00:11:12.120 That was just that organic power of the America First movement.

00:11:16.880 But I think if you pair that with organization, right, similar to what we did in Pennsylvania,

00:11:22.200 if you have real organization that is funded, that has a strategy, that is executed correctly,

00:11:29.020 I think that's the double whammy that a lot of these blue states need to be able to turn the tide

00:11:35.100 and to be able to head in the right direction.

00:11:36.700 Get that organic support and that organic messaging that is out there for the America First movement,

00:11:43.200 and especially tap into when these policies start to really benefit the American people

00:11:48.200 or people, you know, residents of Illinois or these other blue states,

00:11:51.800 pairing that with strong organization, grassroots but funded organization,

00:11:56.880 because that's what the Democrats do, right?

00:11:59.940 Look at the Democrats right now.

00:12:01.800 They don't have organic support.

00:12:03.240 Everything's going in the opposite direction, but they've doubled down on their organization, right?

00:12:08.800 They are serious people.

00:12:10.200 This is a business to them.

00:12:11.440 It's not a hobby.

00:12:12.240 It's a business.

00:12:13.040 It's the business of power.

00:12:14.840 And when we start to take it that seriously,

00:12:17.000 and we pair it with that organic support of people moving towards our message and really wanting

00:12:23.240 those Trump policies, I think that's a recipe for success.

00:12:28.200 Cliff, as you know, only New Jersey and Virginia hold their gubernatorial elections in the off year.

00:12:34.680 That will be coming up, and New Jersey ended up being extraordinarily close,

00:12:42.600 given the fact that it was not a targeted state, that no resources were given to the Trump effort there.

00:12:50.340 So there you had very much a grassroots campaign.

00:12:54.600 Huge credit goes to Mike Crispy, an all-volunteer organization, America First Republicans.

00:13:00.560 Many in the Chris Christie-dominated New Jersey Republican Party sat on their hands or worked quietly for Kabbalah Harris.

00:13:09.080 Yet Donald Trump came tantalizingly close to carrying the state, and that's with no targeting and no resources.

00:13:16.820 Have you examined New Jersey, and what are the chances that the Citizens Alliance will go in there for the upcoming gubernatorial election?

00:13:24.900 Yeah, so I'm in conversations right now with different governor campaigns in New Jersey.

00:13:32.380 I've sat down with different members and elected officials in Virginia.

00:13:36.260 They're one seat away from flipping and taking back the statehouse, and obviously they've got a governor's race as well.

00:13:42.920 What I tell people is this.

00:13:44.080 I say, listen, you know, if there's folks out there that want to fund programs like the PHAs,

00:13:48.720 I'm happy to bring our people into some of these states and to get involved.

00:13:53.280 My focus is Pennsylvania, and we're also moving into New Hampshire for 2026.

00:13:58.600 That's something I'll announce here, Roger, that I'm very excited about.

00:14:01.920 We did door-knocking in New Hampshire in 2024.

00:14:05.080 I was very quiet about it, but I was really proud of the results.

00:14:08.200 You know, we went in, knocked about 100,000 doors, and almost pulled off a win in a state that people weren't even talking about.

00:14:14.680 Right?

00:14:14.920 So the door-to-door, it works.

00:14:16.400 When it comes to 2025, I am happy to lend out any of our team from PHAs if folks have the funds. 1.00

00:14:24.000 So my big push right now is, hey, governor campaigns, hey, in both states, hey, members in the House of Delegates in Virginia or the state senate,

00:14:33.280 if you guys have resources, and I'll say this, Roger, I know some people get mad when I say this on your show,

00:14:40.620 but if the political consultants have a budget of $30 million to $40 million in both of these states,

00:14:45.500 hey, how about pulling off $2 million, $3 million, or $4 million and running a real ground game effort?

00:14:51.220 I am happy to volunteer my time.

00:14:53.220 I'm happy to get involved.

00:14:54.720 We have a proof of concept now in Pennsylvania that if there are other America First campaigns that want to utilize that,

00:15:00.700 to tap into it, I mean, it takes a lot to have 120 full-time people on the ground,

00:15:06.320 10 Airbnbs across the state, the hiring process, the vetting process, the training process,

00:15:11.940 then actually executing the program once they're on the ground.

00:15:15.640 You know, it is a skill set, and it's one that I will offer to anybody as long as they believe in the America First agenda.

00:15:22.080 So we're working now to figure out which campaigns and which state parties want to get involved,

00:15:26.740 want to bring this type of program in.

00:15:28.660 But I'm all ears, and I'm hoping that we can lock something in and really make a dent in both Virginia and New Jersey.

00:15:37.480 You know, Cliff, I think you have just put your finger on something that's absolutely key,

00:15:41.640 which is one of the things you did very successfully in this cycle,

00:15:46.080 because our politics have become very much automated, you know?

00:15:48.940 But people thought, well, you buy TV commercials, radio commercials, cable commercials,

00:15:53.980 you pay for text messages, you pay for email.

00:15:57.560 There were no people involved.

00:15:58.860 You have returned boots on the ground, door-to-door, shoe-leather politics.

00:16:04.400 It's something we departed from, and now I think you've brought the party back to,

00:16:10.220 and you've proven that that personal contact works.

00:16:14.280 Now, working against you is that in the high-crime days of the Biden administration,

00:16:20.400 many people don't want to open their door to a stranger, and our neighborhoods are not safe.

00:16:26.000 So that's an extra burden on your efforts to connect one-on-one with the voters

00:16:31.320 and kind of add the personal touch to this.

00:16:34.720 But you did it with great success.

00:16:36.140 I think you're wise to be looking at New Hampshire.

00:16:39.360 New Hampshire is a state that's changed dramatically.

00:16:41.940 Once a reliably Republican state, the influx of voters from Massachusetts, from Boston,

00:16:48.360 fleeing higher taxes, but unfortunately bringing their liberal tax policies

00:16:52.620 and their liberal worldview with them has changed that.

00:16:56.780 It's a state that I think is in flux, but one that I think we can flip red again,

00:17:01.700 just like I believe New Jersey can be flipped red again.

00:17:05.160 Mark, do you believe that Illinois, where you edit the Illinois Review,

00:17:10.440 is it possible for a Republican to win statewide in Illinois again?

00:17:14.840 Absolutely.

00:17:15.640 I mean, that's why Governor Rob Blagojevich's election was so monumental back in 2002,

00:17:21.480 because he was the first Democratic governor to be elected in 26 years.

00:17:26.300 And although the Democrats controlled the state legislature,

00:17:31.180 had a firm grip on the state legislature,

00:17:33.020 the Republicans always predominantly maintained the governor's mansion.

00:17:37.360 And so, unfortunately, today the Democrats control every statewide office,

00:17:41.440 the Supreme Court, a majority of congressional seats.

00:17:44.660 But we are beginning to see signs of life,

00:17:48.160 given the numbers of this past election and the strength of the MAGA vote throughout Illinois.

00:17:54.800 You know, I've seen Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker say that he's not going to cooperate with the efforts of Tom Homan and ICE

00:18:02.620 to deport dangerous, violent illegals.

00:18:08.640 And, I mean, look, first of all, J.B. Pritzker is so fat, the guy's got his own zip code, you know. 0.76

00:18:13.140 So, here's a wealthy billionaire lecturing Robert Kennedy about health. 0.71

00:18:19.600 It's laughable.

00:18:20.820 And I can't wait until that morning that 29 ICE agents raid his home to arrest him for breaking the law

00:18:27.780 and standing in the way of the president's deportation orders.

00:18:33.080 Doge is very much in the news.

00:18:35.320 The radical left is apoplectic because President Donald Trump is keeping his pledge

00:18:41.980 to go after waste and fraud and corruption and federal spending.

00:18:46.800 And he's got Elon Musk on the scene.

00:18:50.980 He absolutely has the executive authority to do this.

00:18:54.920 You can already see the hard left trying to drive a wedge between the president and Elon Musk.

00:19:01.660 Let's run this video.

00:19:02.540 You okay?

00:19:03.200 This is X.

00:19:06.720 And he's a great guy.

00:19:08.020 High IQ.

00:19:09.280 He's a high IQ individual.

00:19:11.900 And he's got this cool train.

00:19:13.500 He's got off.

00:19:14.520 So, thank you very much.

00:19:15.620 We had a busy day today.

00:19:16.760 The king just left.

00:19:17.900 And we've had a great discussion, terrific discussion, concerning Gaza.

00:19:25.180 The whole feel of that is so family-oriented.

00:19:28.400 I see leftists say, how disrespectful of Elon to be standing up.

00:19:33.600 I've been in the Oval Office.

00:19:35.320 That's the way it works.

00:19:36.320 The president is always seated.

00:19:37.820 Guests in the Oval Office always stand unless they're specifically directed to seat.

00:19:41.640 And having his son there shows that, well, we're a family-friendly administration.

00:19:45.920 We actually like the idea of families and children, unlike the hard left.

00:19:51.840 But they seem to be very scared, Cliff.

00:19:55.140 People seem to be scared about, on the left, seem to be scared about what Elon is going to discover next.

00:20:02.700 What's your thinking on Doge and their efforts?

00:20:06.860 Well, I think Doge is going to come down to one major thing, which is Doge versus the swamp, right?

00:20:12.140 And look, a lot of us think that all Republicans are going to be on the side of Doge.

00:20:15.980 I'm not so sure of that.

00:20:17.680 I think there's going to be some people that the swamp is going to try to wrestle with and try to get them to stick to their side.

00:20:24.360 And the biggest excuse I'm nervous about is hearing this, you know, well, that's not how it's done here in Washington, D.C.

00:20:31.780 Well, listen, we've just had a serious mandate given by the American people.

00:20:36.380 And I think what we've seen so far, you know, in the first month has been, like I said before, a pipe dream for me, right?

00:20:43.400 So what Doge is uncovering, I mean, this USAID stuff is just wild.

00:20:48.920 Some of the things they're finding that, you know, the staff on leave was one thing.

00:20:52.760 But some of these other things, I mean, it's almost unbelievable.

00:20:56.820 Now, Roger, you know, Rand Paul for years has put out his Festivus report.

00:21:01.020 And I used to look at a lot of it and, you know, I used to just be baffled.

00:21:04.460 But now that we've had access to see even deeper, you know, Elon is, I feel like they're just getting started.

00:21:10.980 And what's wild to me is the left's response, pretty much saying we don't want to give him access because we don't want that type of transparency.

00:21:20.020 You don't want transparency on where you're spending the money.

00:21:23.880 You don't want transparency on who's committing this type of fraud, waste and abuse.

00:21:28.540 This is finally what we've needed.

00:21:30.400 It cut, what, a billion dollars in month one.

00:21:33.220 This is the type of reform.

00:21:35.420 When we talk about draining the swamp, Roger, you're 100% correct.

00:21:39.100 This extra four years has given us the time to plan, to prepare and to act on actually draining the swamp.

00:21:46.880 So I'm very excited about it.

00:21:48.620 And my message is simple.

00:21:50.040 Anytime the Democrats try to shut these folks down or block them, keep moving forward.

00:21:55.320 If you're exposing the truth, then that is the right thing to do.

00:22:00.680 Yeah, the thing I found most exciting as a libertarian, as a longtime critic of the Federal Reserve, was the announcement that Elon intends to audit the Federal Reserve.

00:22:11.200 It's about time.

00:22:11.960 First, we should audit it, then we should shut it down because it's unnecessary.

00:22:16.620 It's nowhere in our Constitution.

00:22:18.420 It's not in any of our founding documents.

00:22:20.300 It's a private bank.

00:22:21.120 It's not a government bank.

00:22:22.040 It's a private bank.

00:22:23.240 Why do we need that other than to manipulate our currency?

00:22:27.080 So this is very exciting to me as a libertarian.

00:22:31.100 I watched these Democrat congressmen and congresswomen storming the education department, which Donald Trump has promised to shut down, is going to shut down.

00:22:42.060 I saw Maxine Waters leading the charge.

00:22:45.020 Very bad news for Maxine.

00:22:46.620 She's not going to be able to wear that wig in prison because once they look at her and the profiteering she's done in California, I think she's got serious, serious problems. 1.00

00:22:57.940 Mark, your thoughts?

00:22:58.780 Well, there's no question about it.

00:23:01.220 And, Roger, I want to highlight just something.

00:23:03.040 I served at the Pentagon for three years as a civilian from 07 to 10.

00:23:06.880 And a lot of people don't realize is that if you don't spend all of your money by the end of the fiscal year, your budget, you get penalized the following year.

00:23:15.000 Why not create a system that rewards fiscal responsibility instead of disciplining government agencies and organizations for saving money and taking away more money, even more money the following fiscal year?

00:23:29.500 And so what I saw at the Pentagon in the last quarter was a gigantic spending spree, buying things that you didn't even need in Iraq, buying 100 flat screen televisions instead of needing just four flat screen televisions.

00:23:43.320 It's waste, waste, waste, fraud and abuse.

00:23:45.760 But, yeah, this idea of the Democrats using this narrative that, you know, our kids aren't going to be able to learn, that there's going to be an impact in their test scores.

00:23:54.640 Well, sorry to break the news to you, but as you all are well aware, I mean, our students are falling way behind, even in not just in inner cities, but in wealthy, affluent communities all across the country.

00:24:09.920 Math, reading, science, we are dropping like a rock.

00:24:15.760 Our numbers, our kids, students aren't learning the impacts of shutdowns and remote learning during the pandemic.

00:24:21.640 So it's laughable to use that argument that our kids are going to struggle, because the question is, can it get any worse?

00:24:29.440 I recently saw a report that we spent $50 million on condoms.

00:24:36.520 Can either one of you explain this to me?

00:24:41.000 No, I'll let Mark take that one.

00:24:44.380 Not even Wilt Chamberlain, Roger, could explain that one.

00:24:47.440 But, no, it's laughable that we're beginning to see just the wasteful spending.

00:24:56.980 But the funny part is the Democrats keep digging an even deeper hole by complaining about shining a light, putting some sunlight on these issues and really exposing.

00:25:07.300 My last thought on this is Elon better have some security, because, as you know, Roger and Cliff, I mean, that deep state unit party is going to be going after him, because what he's going to be uncovering here in the next few months, buckle up, because you thought it's bad now.

00:25:22.860 Wait until you go into some of these other organizations and find out where your taxpayer money is going.

00:25:27.500 It's going to be shocking.

00:25:28.360 All right, here's a final question from my friend Cliff Maloney, the CEO of Citizens Alliance, one of the architects of the most sweeping, consequential Republican victories in recent presidential history.

00:25:42.040 As you know, Cliff, traditionally, the party in power loses seats in the off-year election.

00:25:50.240 Now, the situation in the current U.S. House is really perilous.

00:25:54.340 We have two vacant seats in Florida.

00:25:56.540 The president has nominated Elise Stefanik to the U.N.

00:26:01.320 She has not she's been approved by the committee, have not moved her nomination to the Senate floor because we can't afford to vacate that seat until we fill the two seats in Florida in April special elections.

00:26:16.080 And Republicans will win both of those seats.

00:26:18.720 Meanwhile, the RINOs in New York 21 are trying to ensure the nomination of a Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger style Republican and trying to shut out MAGA candidate Anthony Constantino.

00:26:33.960 I wouldn't be so sure about that, folks.

00:26:38.080 I'd keep an eye on that.

00:26:40.060 It is a special election.

00:26:43.300 The Democrats are trying to change the schedule on us.

00:26:47.500 My question for you, Cliff, is since everything that we know about politics, all the old rules kind of out the window because Donald Trump, the first business person to become president, not a governor, not a senator, not a congressman, not a general.

00:27:03.020 I don't buy the idea that we will automatically lose seats or lose the House.

00:27:08.480 I actually think that we could extend our margin very extensively in the House in 2026 if things go well.

00:27:16.060 What do you think, Cliff?

00:27:18.400 Yeah, I think this is the golden age.

00:27:20.340 This is unlike anything anybody's ever lived through.

00:27:23.600 You know, I'm 33 years old.

00:27:24.920 If I look back at any of the political things I've seen just over the last couple of decades, you know, this is very unique.

00:27:32.020 It is a moment in time where I think a lot of things have the potential to change.

00:27:36.520 I would make a prediction that we expand our majority in the House, potentially even in the Senate, depending on how things shake out with some of these key races.

00:27:45.820 And, look, the reason I make that prediction, Roger, is I think the American people are going to look at what they've pulled up with over the last four years.

00:27:53.360 And they're going to compare that to what's going to happen in 2025.

00:27:56.640 I think it's going to be a great year.

00:27:58.160 I think the market's going to go well.

00:27:59.460 I think prices are going to go down.

00:28:01.580 And I think that that's what people voted for.

00:28:03.680 They voted for sanity.

00:28:05.340 They voted to end the woke nonsense.

00:28:07.480 They voted to end all these endless wars around the world.

00:28:10.480 They voted to really make life better.

00:28:13.360 And I think if we can produce that, if we can deliver on that mandate from the American people,

00:28:18.700 I think 2026 could be extremely valuable and extremely effective and a huge winning year for Republicans.

00:28:26.060 Now, it would go against all the trends.

00:28:28.520 You're exactly right.

00:28:29.440 History tells me that won't happen.

00:28:31.580 But history also has never had a president who's been impeached, who's been convicted, who's been shot in the face, and comes back and wins the White House.

00:28:40.060 So it's a new dawn in America.

00:28:42.420 It is the golden age.

00:28:43.920 And I think that we have a huge potential here to make this a great year for the American way of life and then benefit politically in 2026.

00:28:52.440 All right.

00:28:54.660 We're going to leave it there.

00:28:55.940 Cliff Maloney, the chief executive officer of Citizens Alliance, founder of the Pennsylvania Chase.

00:29:03.260 His greatest political victories lie ahead, but absolutely one of the architects of the most transformational victories in American political history

00:29:12.940 and a key foot soldier in the greatest comeback in American political history.

00:29:18.440 Cliff, great honor to have you on.

00:29:19.760 God bless you.

00:29:20.380 Great seeing you both.

00:29:22.680 Take care now.

00:29:23.800 We have some breaking news that has just come across my desk.

00:29:28.380 Evidently, Pam Bondi, newly appointed attorney general, has announced federal charges being filed against Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York,

00:29:40.700 Letitia James, the attorney general, and Mark Schroeder.

00:29:45.400 I'm not familiar with Mr. Schroeder.

00:29:47.400 Now, we learned just days ago that Letitia James inflated the value of her assets in order to qualify for mortgages to buy commercial properties that greatly increased her net worth. 1.00

00:30:05.880 This is really extraordinary because, of course, that is exactly what she accused President Donald Trump of doing and brought a fake case against him.

00:30:19.640 Additionally, she's got two other problems that I know of.

00:30:22.880 During her six years on the New York City Council, she engaged in the same fraud that Mayor of New York, Mayor of New York, Eric Adams engaged in, taking illegal money, sending it, laundering it essentially to straw donors, and then putting it through New York City's eight to one campaign finance matching fund program.

00:30:44.240 She covered up at least three sexual assaults by her chief of staff against women.

00:30:51.240 One of those cases was settled.

00:30:53.440 The other two women, I think, were threatened and haven't brought suit.

00:30:58.460 There's one case in which Letitia James herself is accused by a woman of sexual assault.

00:31:05.380 And then there's the financing of her campaign for attorney general, utilizing ActBlue, which, of course, is the payment processing company that funnels millions of dollars into these Democrat campaigns from donors that don't really exist.

00:31:25.680 They turn off the feature where you have to match your credit card to a mailing address in order to funnel millions of dollars into these campaigns.

00:31:38.660 This is breaking right now, federal action against these New York officials.

00:31:42.820 Let's run that video.

00:31:44.680 Thanks for the communication with us with the delay.

00:31:47.960 We're here today because we have filed charges against the state of New York.

00:31:53.820 We have filed charges against Kathy Hochul.

00:31:56.320 We have filed charges against Letitia James and Mark Schroeder, who is with DMV.

00:32:03.560 This is a new DOJ, and we are taking steps to protect Americans, American citizens, and angel moms, like the mom standing right behind me, who you're going to hear from in a moment.

00:32:15.360 New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens.

00:32:23.240 It stops.

00:32:24.120 It stops today.

00:32:25.820 As you know, we sued Illinois, and New York didn't listen.

00:32:31.920 So now, you're next.

00:32:35.260 Millions of illegal aliens with violent records have flooded into our communities, bringing violence and deadly drugs with them. 1.00

00:32:43.700 With me today, I'm so glad you're going to be with me today.

00:32:47.240 There you go.

00:32:48.100 There is the beginning of it.

00:32:49.560 I made reference to this earlier, Mark, when I pointed out that J.B. Pritzker has already announced his defiance of this effort to deport illegals.

00:33:00.920 Now you see Pam Bondi stepping up and using the federal law enforcement mechanism the way it was supposed to be used. 1.00

00:33:09.740 Tom Homan, who I know personally, is a tough customer.

00:33:14.100 He's a no-nonsense guy.

00:33:16.200 He's on a mission, and he's going to perform that mission.

00:33:19.740 Your thoughts on this announcement by Pam Bondi?

00:33:23.420 I'm thinking of all the innocent citizens and visitors and residents of these sanctuary cities that have been held hostage by their Democratic leaders who have been prioritizing migrants over their own citizens, who've been prioritizing violence over safety.

00:33:43.620 It's remarkable, Roger, there's video that has been captured by everyday people in Illinois of migrants getting off of trains and buses wearing ankle monitors.

00:33:56.480 We've seen Chicago, for example, has seen an 11,000, 11,000 percent increase in arrests of Venezuelans.

00:34:05.120 It's laughable, again, that J.B. Pritzker and other Democrat leaders in sanctuary cities would talk about, oh, we want the violent and dangerous ones.

00:34:15.880 We want to deport them.

00:34:17.240 But yet it was just within the last two and a half years that they were welcoming them.

00:34:22.040 And what makes it sickening is that you have taxpayer dollars that were being used to feed, to house, to clothe these migrants, these violent and vicious and dangerous individuals who belong in jail, not in a home that was set aside for a single parent or a veteran. 0.97

00:34:40.760 It's remarkable.

00:34:41.740 And so bravo to the attorney general for her leadership, for President Trump, for his leadership in directing this, because this will send shockwaves to these other Democratic leaders in these sanctuary cities.

00:34:54.160 It's time to regain control and restore law and order.

00:34:58.120 Look, I can just tell you, based on my own knowledge, New York Attorney General Letitia James is in deep trouble.

00:35:04.840 Hats off to Sam Antar, who's an investigator and also an accountant, who has dug deep into her campaign finance reports and into her personal disclosure reports to uncover massive fraud.

00:35:22.480 I urge folks to follow him on X.

00:35:25.420 It's all there, and he documents everything he says.

00:35:28.120 He's examined the mortgages.

00:35:29.900 He can prove that she actually did what she falsely accused Donald Trump of doing.

00:35:36.300 So a major shout out to Sam.

00:35:38.540 Hoping to get him on the radio this weekend to lay some of this out.

00:35:43.320 Before we talk about Rob Blagojevich, because this is a topic I want to talk about, there's nothing that makes me happier than the fact that he's gotten the pardon that he so richly deserved,

00:35:52.780 because he was actually patient zero, in a sense, victim zero, when it came to this war of weaponization and abuse of our criminal justice system.

00:36:03.420 I want to talk about that for a moment.

00:36:05.300 But before we do that, Caroline Levitt is just a breath of fresh air in the White House press office. 0.99

00:36:11.800 That mop top that had the job before was horrific. 0.91

00:36:15.500 And then that other woman who looked to me like she smelled very bad, Jen Psaki, that girl had that stank, if you ask me. 1.00

00:36:24.340 When you look at Caroline Levitt, who's only, I think, 26, 27, but really on top of the game, Caitlin Collins,

00:36:34.340 I really enjoyed it when President Trump humiliated her in that town hall that CNN had. 0.89

00:36:40.340 She got her comeuppance.

00:36:42.000 Try talking over Donald Trump once.

00:36:43.840 Try that once.

00:36:44.700 See how that works out.

00:36:45.760 Take a look at Caroline Levitt today, shooting back at the fake news media. 0.62

00:36:50.500 I don't agree with you.

00:36:51.920 Which Secretary Mitchell made the decision to make your report from the Oval Office and the diplomatic reception room last night?

00:36:58.220 Well, first of all, let me just set the record straight.

00:37:00.680 It is a privilege to cover this White House.

00:37:03.200 It's a privilege to be the White House press secretary.

00:37:05.760 And nobody has the right to go into the Oval Office and ask the President of the United States questions.

00:37:11.340 That's an invitation that is given.

00:37:12.980 And there are hundreds of outlets on this campus, many of you in this room who don't have the privilege of being part of that pool every single day and getting to ask the President questions.

00:37:22.560 We reserve the right to decide who gets to go into the Oval Office and you all have credentials to be here, including the Associated Press, who is in this briefing room today.

00:37:32.100 But isn't it retaliatory in nature, is the argument, because the reason that the AP was barred, which they said was because they're not using the phrase Gulf of America, they're using Gulf of Mexico in line with their standards.

00:37:43.240 And so the question here is, is this setting a precedent that this White House will retaliate against reporters who don't use the language that you guys believe reporters should use?

00:37:50.960 And how does that align with the First Amendment commitment that you were just talking about?

00:37:54.740 I was very upfront in my briefing on day one that if we feel that there are lies being pushed by outlets in this room, we are going to hold those lies accountable.

00:38:04.160 And it is a fact that the body of water off the coast of Louisiana is called the Gulf of America.

00:38:10.300 And I'm not sure why news outlets don't want to call it that, but that is what it is.

00:38:15.120 The Secretary of Interior has made that the official designation in the Geographical Identification Name Server.

00:38:22.280 And Apple has recognized that.

00:38:24.240 Google has recognized that.

00:38:25.440 Pretty much every other outlet in this room has recognized that body of water as the Gulf of America.

00:38:29.500 And it's very important to this administration that we get that right, not just for people here at home, but also for the rest of the world.

00:38:36.000 Sure.

00:38:36.820 What an incredible breath of fresh air this is, pushing back against the fake news media.

00:38:42.020 And as for Caitlin Collins, I'm not sure what that guy is all so upset about, in all honesty.

00:38:46.940 One thing I do know, and that is AP and Reuters, who are included in the press pool, then try to charge conservative media outlets for that video footage, which I think is really outrageous and unfair.

00:39:02.700 We're trying to do something about that right here at the Stone Zone, because we think it is so outrageous.

00:39:08.420 All right, let's get to this, because it's something I'm excited about.

00:39:11.740 Mark, you worked very, very hard on this.

00:39:13.920 So did I, Rob Blagojevich, who's become a great friend, really the first victim of the political weaponization that we saw become full blown over the last four years.

00:39:26.760 His crime seems to be that he was caught red handed engaging in politics.

00:39:33.360 When the Senate seat of Barack Obama became vacant, he essentially refused an order to appoint Valerie Jarrett to that seat.

00:39:42.700 And he explored his political options, because that's what politicians do.

00:39:48.120 But he was targeted.

00:39:49.840 He was put through the ringer in an unfair trial.

00:39:54.180 And the central evidence of him, an audio recording, I guess, of a wiretapped conversation, was never actually played in court.

00:40:02.540 Walk us through his case and why the president's decision to pardon him is so monumental.

00:40:08.540 It is.

00:40:10.420 Well, for starters, and there's so much to unpack, but I'll be very brief, Roger.

00:40:14.340 But for starters, the legal standard to start tapping his phones and listening was an illegal standard.

00:40:20.980 It was the governor is going to engage in aggressive fundraising.

00:40:25.260 That was the justification to tap all of his phones.

00:40:28.960 That's an illegal justification.

00:40:30.280 His judge sat on the FISA court and helped issue that surveillance.

00:40:36.640 So that's point number one.

00:40:37.640 Point number two is this sale of the Senate seat, which was a complete fraud and which was that was the call mark sale of the Senate seat.

00:40:46.040 That eventually was overturned on appeal and was just labeled political routine, political log rolling.

00:40:54.460 There was no sale of the Senate seat.

00:40:56.300 Governor Bogoyevich was talking about deals.

00:40:59.040 If I get your support for this person that I appoint to the U.S. Senate, will I get your support for an infrastructure bill?

00:41:05.360 Will I get your support to expand my all kids, children's health care proposal?

00:41:10.560 Will I get your support to create more jobs?

00:41:12.940 Will I get your support to make sure we don't raise taxes on the working people in Illinois?

00:41:18.580 Those were the deals.

00:41:19.920 No one ever testified that he testified that he took one cent.

00:41:23.360 It was not about allocate money to this account or hire my wife.

00:41:27.140 None of those conversations transpired.

00:41:29.020 And, Roger, to this day, 98 percent of the tapes in Bogoyevich's case are hidden.

00:41:36.580 They're under seal.

00:41:37.340 And we're hoping that Attorney General Pam Bondi will put her signature to that and release those tapes.

00:41:44.320 We're also hoping that Kash Patel, as FBI director, will be able to release Obama's FBI interview, 302, because we believe that that interview was going to show that Barack Obama is a liar.

00:41:55.120 And did he lie under oath?

00:41:56.340 Did he perjure himself?

00:41:57.220 That's going to be very interesting.

00:41:59.060 But, Roger, the idea of what they did to Bogoyevich and his bribery is they criminalized routine politics.

00:42:05.980 They said that your campaign donations in your account are not donations.

00:42:09.360 They're bribes.

00:42:11.160 And under that legal standard that they used to convict him and put him in prison for 14 years, every member of Congress would be in prison.

00:42:18.140 Every political candidate would be in prison.

00:42:20.300 Any person with any money in their campaign accounts would be in prison because they're going to say those are not donations, they're bribes.

00:42:27.680 And so he was sentenced to 14 years because they wanted to silence him.

00:42:31.340 They wanted to bury him.

00:42:32.700 He served eight years before President Trump reached into the cold, dark Atlantic waters and saved him and rescued him and returned him to his wife and to his daughters who have suffered so terribly.

00:42:42.760 Roger, you know this firsthand, how deep the wounds are for your family members and those closest to you that love you, like your wife and your daughter and your son and grandchildren.

00:42:51.640 It's a very painful experience.

00:42:53.260 And so President Trump saved him and reunited with his family.

00:42:57.500 And just the other day, and Roger, I want to thank you.

00:43:01.040 And I know the governor is going to be talking to you about that as well.

00:43:03.100 But you played such an instrumental role in ensuring that President Trump issued a full and unconditional pardon to Governor Blagojevich just the other day.

00:43:14.660 And it is remarkable.

00:43:16.000 You can see a burden is lifted from his shoulders.

00:43:18.500 It is another step in the path towards total and complete vindication.

00:43:22.440 But, Roger, he likes to say, I was Roger Stone before Roger Stone in terms of the FBI raid on his house signed by Robert Mueller, a name that we all know very well, Robert Mueller, a very corrupt individual who should be in jail.

00:43:37.080 These are the same people, James Comey, Patrick Fitzgerald, the same people that went after Blagojevich, the same people that are going after President Trump, going after you, Roger, and so many others who's only guilty of becoming as being friends with Donald Trump.

00:43:50.740 So a big, big day in Illinois and across the country, and the governor and his family couldn't be happier.

00:43:57.520 You know, my mentor, President Hickson, always said, look forward, never look back.

00:44:04.560 And therefore, I guess, first of all, let me say, I've come to have great affection and respect as well as admiration for Rod Blagojevich.

00:44:12.900 He went through this horrific ordeal, but he's not bitter.

00:44:17.220 He's not broken.

00:44:18.460 It deepened his faith in the Lord.

00:44:21.100 But it also encouraged him to speak out.

00:44:23.800 He calls himself a Trumpocrat now.

00:44:25.780 I love that.

00:44:27.180 But he was, in fact, the first person who was subjected to this kind of abuse.

00:44:33.300 Kudos to President Trump for recognizing that.

00:44:35.720 But now, Mark, I hear there's a groundswell of people in Chicago, as that city literally is falling apart,

00:44:42.080 who want Rod to come forward and be a candidate for governor, pardon me, for mayor.

00:44:47.440 But there's a problem with that because the political establishment in Illinois is so afraid of the popularity of Rod Blagojevich.

00:44:56.580 And by the way, I've been out with him in Chicago.

00:44:58.280 And it's amazing how the people love him.

00:45:01.300 The people, the working people, black, white, Hispanic, across the board, young and old.

00:45:06.920 They love this man because they know he was the last common sense Democrat governor in Illinois history.

00:45:13.060 Never raised taxes, but expanded health care for women, expanded programs that helped the people, made transportation available to everyone.

00:45:23.820 You have here this conundrum, this contradiction.

00:45:30.580 The Democrat politicians in Illinois so fear Rod Blagojevich, they passed a law that said Rod Blagojevich cannot run for state or local office.

00:45:40.640 But at the same time, they passed a law that said if you're a convicted felon, largely the constituency of the Democrat Party,

00:45:47.580 you can run for any state or local office.

00:45:50.680 Now, I have no idea whether Rod is interested in running for mayor.

00:45:54.440 He certainly has no obligation to do it.

00:45:56.140 Here's a man who's already served his state and his country with great integrity as a member of the House and as governor

00:46:02.900 and has been put through the ringer by Barack Obama and his circle of criminals.

00:46:09.120 But how does this play out?

00:46:11.360 I mean, the laws seem to contradict each other.

00:46:14.180 And I can just tell you, having been in Chicago, the people want Rod Blagojevich back in public service.

00:46:21.880 In the last 48 hours, Roger, I've gotten calls from a variety of different attorneys in downtown Chicago who have all said,

00:46:28.880 I'd be happy to work on this case pro bono because that law banning him from running for office is unconstitutional.

00:46:35.940 And yet when they bring up the other law that was passed to allow someone with a convicted felon to run for office,

00:46:43.060 these two laws contradict each other.

00:46:45.240 And that's the point is the law specifically for Blagojevich is he's a convicted felon, so he cannot run for office in Illinois.

00:46:52.060 But all these years later, they pass another law contradicting that one.

00:46:56.080 The governor has shared with this publicly, and he still, Roger, has another campaign in him because he feels like he was taken out of the ring too soon.

00:47:06.480 And he said, I've been training.

00:47:08.040 My mind is ready.

00:47:09.300 My body is ready.

00:47:10.320 My heart's ready.

00:47:11.460 I'd like to get back in the race because he said in the arena, he said, because I think I like a champion fighter.

00:47:16.520 I think I've got one more fight left in me.

00:47:18.860 But he's got to get through his hardest primary.

00:47:21.180 He's won all 14 elections.

00:47:22.600 He's 14 for 14 in elections.

00:47:25.360 But he said, I'll tell you, the hardest primary that I'm facing right now is a primary in my own home, and that's convincing my wife, Patty, to allow her to let me run for office.

00:47:36.440 And he said, if there were polls right now on this primary, polls would suggest that I'm losing.

00:47:41.760 But I'm not losing hope.

00:47:44.640 Over 65 percent, Illinois Review is going to be publishing a story on this, Roger,

00:47:48.500 but over 65 percent of Chicagoans agreed and supported President Trump's full and unconditional pardon of Governor Blagojevich the other day.

00:47:58.100 We're also seeing Mayor Brandon Johnson's approval ratings at just 14 percent, the lowest of any mayor in the history of Chicago, 14 percent approval rating.

00:48:09.340 There's no doubt in my mind there's been smaller sample polls that have gone on that if Rod Blagojevich were to run for Chicago mayor, he would win that race by a country mile.

00:48:21.240 And so it's exciting now that there's partners behind him.

00:48:25.020 It's exciting to see what's in the future.

00:48:26.660 But don't rule out a run for Chicago mayor.

00:48:29.000 Yeah, I've seen these headlines suggesting that Rod might aspire to be ambassador to Serbia.

00:48:37.280 Obviously, Serbia is very proud of the fact that he's probably the most famous Serbian-American political leader in America, perhaps the world.

00:48:45.820 I don't think that's the right job for him.

00:48:48.040 That's a job for somebody who's retired.

00:48:50.640 Rod's not retired.

00:48:51.860 He's still got a lot of fight in him.

00:48:54.220 He's extraordinarily skilled.

00:48:55.880 I see why Obama, the Democrats, had to send him to prison, because I think he himself may have become president.

00:49:01.760 On the other hand, he was the first governor in the country to endorse Barack Obama.

00:49:05.380 And look what he got for his pains.

00:49:07.880 I can't even begin to tell you how much I admire him.

00:49:11.040 I'm going to be with him and you this weekend.

00:49:13.580 Very much looking forward to that.

00:49:15.740 We're going to be watching this story very, very carefully, because I think this could be one of the this could become the second greatest political comeback in American history.

00:49:25.600 Second, only to that of Donald J.

00:49:28.500 Trump.

00:49:29.800 As you know, Mark, it's kind of where I end the show today.

00:49:33.320 President Trump has issued an order to release all of the government's files regarding the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy and Dr.

00:49:45.940 Martin Luther King.

00:49:46.880 But that's not as easy as it sounds.

00:49:50.780 And right now, I can tell you just yesterday, a big story in Axios, broken by their reporter, Mark Caputo, one of the few objective reporters who works for that news outlet, a guy who actually neither left nor right, but kind of goes where the facts lead.

00:50:05.200 Suddenly, the FBI has come up with 2,400 documents about the Kennedy assassination that, you know, maybe they were under the couch or something, or it's hard to know, 14,000 pages of information that we've never seen.

00:50:20.100 I can tell you, because I know a lot about this, having written a book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, it's a New York Times bestseller, that all of the documents that we're interested in finding are not in the JFK assassination archive.

00:50:35.960 And therefore, Congressman Tim Burchett from Tennessee, who's a real fighter for the taxpayers, a real MAGA loyalist, one of President Trump's favorite congressmen, true fighter for the American people, has written a letter to the president suggesting that he direct all federal agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the Department of State, the Department of Defense, and the Internal Revenue Service to remue all materials in their possession.

00:51:05.300 And transmit to the archivist all remaining records related to the assassination of President Kennedy.

00:51:12.820 He has suggested that the president direct the archivists of the United States to remove all redactions from what is about to be released.

00:51:21.800 This is a trick they used before.

00:51:23.660 My friend James O'Keefe, investigative journalist, started Project Veritas, now with O'Keefe Media, shocked when the FBI stormed his home to search for Ashley Biden's diary, something that had been given to him by a source, something he'd never written about or publicized or talked about on the air.

00:51:48.140 He merely had it.

00:51:49.520 The FBI raided his home.

00:51:53.140 It was very exciting.

00:51:54.620 Two days ago, three days ago, the Justice Department announced they're dropping charges against him. 0.93

00:51:59.520 The charges against him were ridiculous.

00:52:01.080 They were, I think they were trying to charge him with transporting stolen material across the state line.

00:52:07.220 But when he demanded to see the probable cause affidavit to justify the raid on his home, every single word was blacked out and redacted.

00:52:18.560 Every word in the document.

00:52:20.360 This is what they intend to try to do with the Kennedy documents.

00:52:23.800 It's telling that in 2017, when these documents were supposed to be released, that CIA director Mike Pompeo interceded with President Trump at the very last minute and got him to hold back 20 percent of the documents.

00:52:42.440 Now, if he's the head of the CIA, what does that tell you about what we're about to learn?

00:52:50.000 There's a lot of curves in the road here.

00:52:53.000 The bureaucrats are going to try to hide this stuff. 1.00

00:52:56.140 We're going to try to get Congressman Burschett on to lay out the game plan that he's allowed, laid out to make sure that doesn't happen.

00:53:04.320 Got about two minutes here.

00:53:05.760 Mark, let's wrap it up on this topic.

00:53:07.720 Your thought on these upcoming revelations regarding the JFK assassination documents.

00:53:12.620 Well, you hit the nail on the head and you continue to do this, Roger, when you talk about how Mike Pompeo, when he was CIA director, how he did not, he opposed the release, the further release of these documents.

00:53:27.620 Why? Because he's protecting something.

00:53:30.980 And I think you were right, protecting the CIA and we're going to understand the role that they that they played in this.

00:53:38.100 But that was my number one fear, Roger, or concern, not fear, but number one concern is, OK, so they're going to release all these documents.

00:53:44.380 But 99 percent of it's going to be redacted.

00:53:48.520 And the only thing that we're going to see in the top right hand corner is perhaps the date and maybe the and and while the rest is redacted.

00:53:57.620 And we're not going to learn anything from that.

00:54:00.500 And that seems to be a deep state trick, an old trick that the deep state will use to make sure that this information remains hidden.

00:54:09.420 But I appreciate that they're making these efforts because we need full and complete transparency.

00:54:16.260 And you have been leading the leader on this topic for so long.

00:54:22.400 And so I can't wait, Roger, to to get your analysis as these documents start to become available and and what we'll continue to learn.

00:54:29.920 And will there be additional bombshells in these in this new release?

00:54:33.740 It's going to be really fascinating to tune in here to the Stone Zone to watch your analysis of this.

00:54:39.460 Yeah, I checked in with, you know, with author Gerald Posner, who wrote the book Case Closed.

00:54:46.320 He's the last person on Earth who actually believes the conclusion of the Warren Commission, actually believes that Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy and acted alone.

00:54:55.160 I just want to do a wellness check on him.

00:54:56.960 He's doing OK.

00:54:58.220 I've asked him to come on with Patrick Bed David on his platform when the documents are finally released.

00:55:06.980 I understand that he's probably hiding under his desk right now, but hopefully Gerald Posner will come out and and duke it out because he literally is the last person on Earth who believes that Lee Harvey Oswald did this and acted alone.

00:55:21.260 All right.

00:55:21.420 We have to leave it there, folks.

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