On today's show, Roger Stone and Owen Schreier discuss the latest developments in the Trump/Stormy Daniels case, including the news that Stormy Daniels will be a witness in the case, and the possibility of Donald Trump going to jail if he violates a gag order placed on him by a New York City judge. They also discuss the political implications of Trump daring the judge to jail him, and whether or not he will actually be put in jail. Finally, Stone and his co-host Troy Smith discuss the impact of all of this on Trump's poll numbers, and how it could impact the upcoming mid-term elections. The Stone Zone is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New York Times bestselling author and conservative icon Roger Stone joins host Roger Stone to discuss all things political and pop culture related to the ongoing Trump/Daniels case. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, and is a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. He is an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has lectured at the prestigious Oxenaville University. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. Stone has become a pop-culture icon and has become an outspoken liberty advocate. Join us in the Stone Zone! - Roger Stone's newest book, "The Stone Zone: A Guide to the Trump Era," out now! - out now: The Stone is available on all major podcast directories, including Podchaser, Slingshot News, and Infowars, The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, and The New Republic. If you haven't checked out The Stonezone Podcast, you won't want to miss it! Subscribe to The StoneZ Zone. - Subscribe to our newest podcast, The StoneZone. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes! Learn more about the Stonezone. Use the hashtag and Subscribe on Anchor.fm - use the promo code "TheStoneZONE at anchor.fm/TheStonezone to receive 20% off the first week of the new season of Season 4 starting on October 1st, 2020. and receive 10% off your first month free shipping discount when you buy a new month-only ad-free version of the show begins!
00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:09.560Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:13.180He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:19.340As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:24.880and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:30.000Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:35.600And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:43.080Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:48.820Well, all eyes are on the tumultuous New York City case of Donald J. Trump.
00:00:56.720Shocking news this morning that Stormy Daniels, the adult movie actress who is embroiled in this case, will be appearing as a witness.
00:01:09.060Also, yesterday, we seemed to be at a flashpoint.
00:01:13.540Judge Juan Merchant has vowed to incarcerate Donald Trump if he dares to violate the gag order placed on him by the judge.
00:01:25.020And Trump essentially said he's prepared to go to jail because, well, free speech and the Constitution are important.
00:01:33.760Here to break both of these items down and also give us a general political overview of everything happening today,
00:01:42.980first is my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News.
00:01:51.460Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here in the Stone Zone.
00:01:53.940All right, but even a greater honor for us, Owen Schroyer, who hosts the War Room show at InfoWars.com every day at 4 o'clock Central, 5 o'clock Eastern, also joins us today in the Stone Zone.
00:04:21.300I don't know if the judge is going to follow through with it.
00:04:23.800So now you're going to make him look weak when he doesn't do it.
00:04:28.100And for Donald Trump right now, really, it's almost like he can do no wrong.
00:04:32.620I mean, his supporters are going to be with him no matter what.
00:04:35.320The more they persecute him, the more donations and voters he's going to pick up along the way.
00:04:41.020But as he laid out in that speech, this whole thing is obviously political.
00:04:45.580And the more they do to him, the more obvious it is that the whole thing is political.
00:04:49.840And what Donald Trump is going through, unfortunately, is something that I've experienced before with Alex Jones and Infowars and what the left would love to do to everybody.
00:05:00.180They want to be able to politically persecute you, hold the jail over your head, and basically threaten you with that to say you're going to shut up, you're going to stop campaigning, you're not going to run for office, you're going to shut down your show, you're going to shut down your media network.
00:05:16.400And so this is the intimidation tactics that the left engage in.
00:05:42.420Roger, you said something that was pretty interesting yesterday that I'd like you to kind of expand on, and it was about the Secret Service protection.
00:05:49.580Now, they're threatening Trump with jail time here, but he has Secret Service protection that's required to be protecting him at 24-7.
00:05:57.540So if he is put in jail, is the Secret Service also going to jail with him?
00:06:03.060I think that kind of goes to what Owen's pointing out there is that I think Trump is calling the bluff here.
00:06:08.860I think that there's really – if the Democrats really wanted to hand Trump something like they did with the mugshot, they would put him in jail because I think that would only increase the visibility of his case and the political prosecution that's going on against him.
00:06:23.740And I think it would also rally support around him.
00:06:27.620But, Roger, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the Secret Service thing because I think that kind of speaks to the ridiculousness of this entire situation.
00:06:34.620Yeah, I can't even speak to how logistically that could possibly work.
00:06:39.780Look, you're in a point here where neither side can really back down.
00:06:45.220The judge, if Trump does violate the gag order again, which is virtually a certainty, will show that he's powerless if he doesn't try to incarcerate him.
00:06:58.080Trump, I think, has the high ground here.
00:07:01.620Nowhere does it say that if you're charged with a crime that you're subjected to a gag order.
00:07:08.020In my case, the judge not only imposed a gag order on me, but every single member of my family, my wife, my adult children, also it extended to my supporters.
00:07:22.120Well, that could have included Owen Schroyer or Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson.
00:07:27.780The judge was incensed, by the way, when any of those three people commented on my case, just made her wild, as if federal judges in this country are immune to criticism.
00:07:43.180And then they were very clever in what they did.
00:07:45.680I immediately filed a writ of mandamus, challenging the constitutionality of the gag order.
00:07:53.760The appeals court in D.C. sat on it for nine months, nine months while I was sustaining damage from The Washington Post and CNN and MSNBC virtually every day with a torrent of falsehoods.
00:08:13.540And then at the just days before my trial, the judge, the appeals court ruled that my motion was not ripe for consideration because I had not first asked the judge who placed the gag order on me to remove the gag order, which, of course, she never would have done.
00:08:34.400So this is this is a game sooner or later.
00:08:38.560We're going to get a ruling on the constitutionality of the so-called gag order, because I believe that they are greatly unconstitutional.
00:08:48.280By the way, they're supposed to be put in place to protect the defendant, not to not to perfect to to not because of the jury pool, but to protect the defendant.
00:09:25.440And obviously, they're going to bring up the signed statement that she made.
00:09:28.760I want to get back to what Troy brought up earlier, though, because this is actually a very important point.
00:09:34.220The way the flow of I mean, let's say power for lack of a better term or security for lack of a better term, the way the flow of security works with Donald Trump is that Secret Service has the ultimate upper hand.
00:09:46.260And so virtually, Troy, what will happen in a situation if Trump is incarcerated is that Secret Service will take over that prison and they will basically now have the power to determine what goes on in that prison, who comes in, who comes out, who gets access to the president, how that all goes down.
00:10:08.200And that's basically the flow of security dealing with that.
00:10:12.280So obviously, as Roger said, that's a logistical nightmare, but it's a logistical nightmare that Secret Service working for Donald Trump is going to be in charge of.
00:10:22.480And so really, it's a situation that, I mean, you really wouldn't even want to deal with.
00:10:27.280But again, what are we talking about here?
00:10:29.340We're talking about a judge wanting to silence a defendant.
00:11:23.520They needed to see how corrupt it all is.
00:11:25.380They needed to see how Democrats on a bench or in a courtroom as a prosecutor, hell, as a teacher, wherever they are, as a doctor, they're Democrat, liberal, extremist activists before anything else, including their important role as a judge.
00:11:42.160So Trump is going through this personally.
00:11:45.300But, yes, secret security will take over whatever prison they decide to put Trump in.
00:11:51.560That's how the flow of power works, the flow of security works.
00:11:55.320And, you know, what are they going to do when they bring Stormy Daniels up there and the Trump defense shows the document with her signature that says, yeah, none of this ever happened?
00:12:03.700A document, I might point out, that the judge ordered Trump to remove from his Truth Social post.
00:12:13.900I've actually now seen that there are two different documents where she says in writing that none of these things actually transpired.
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00:15:19.920In the early days of the trial, a lawyer named Keith Davidson, who had been the attorney for Stormy Daniels and who arranged the settlement with Michael Cohen, testified at trial.
00:15:37.140But what he was not asked was whether or not it was accurate that he was arrested in an FBI sting regarding a group of people who sought to extort Hulk Hogan over a sex tape.
00:15:56.140And that he essentially avoided prosecution in that case by agreeing to testify against the president in this case.
00:16:08.620I believe it was Davidson who actually tipped the feds off to Cohen and his activities.
00:16:14.620Now, tomorrow, right here on the Stone Zone, Bubba Clem, that's right, Bubba the Love Sponge, who was involved in that entire controversy, will be right here to outline the role of Keith Davidson and Michael Cohen.
00:16:32.100I think it's fair to say that there's some evidence that Cohen himself may have been the one who had a relationship with Stormy and that Cohen himself may have been paying her for his own protection.
00:16:46.900But I guess that's something we will learn in the trial.
00:16:52.020Troy, let's move on with the political front here.
00:16:56.280I want to get Owen's thoughts on some of the most important stories of the day.
00:17:01.760Well, Roger, this is something that President Trump discussed outside of the courthouse today.
00:17:06.180And Owen, too, I want to get your opinion on this because he's making the case, as this CNN contributor does, that the proof of falsifying records, the centerpiece of this case, has not been accomplished yet.
00:17:18.100So let's run that clip from CNN that the president discussed this morning.
00:17:21.000Well, her testimony was important because it starts to connect some of the dots, and that is, you know, can you actually put a pen in Donald Trump's hand?
00:17:30.100Can you put a check in his hand under his signature?
00:17:32.240But that really is not the crux of the government's case.
00:17:35.780The case deals with heavy falsified records as it relates to federal election law.
00:17:41.920And so that has not been accomplished yet.
00:17:46.480You know, I don't know whether in the end this case is going to turn on large items or small.
00:17:55.220You have a fundamental problem, as I said earlier.
00:17:59.300Even if Trump were guilty of falsifying these records, which he vehemently denies, this would be, at worst, a civil business records case.
00:18:10.040It only becomes a criminal case, a felony, if that act was in furtherance of some other criminal conspiracy.
00:18:19.080But very much like my trial, in which I was never allowed to prove, through the use of forensic evidence and expert testimony,
00:18:28.880that there was never any online hack of the DNC by the Russians or anyone else.
00:18:36.380In this case, Trump is restricted by the judge from letting the jury know that the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York
00:18:48.120already investigated all of these matters and elected to bring no charges,
00:18:54.300probably because they also couldn't find the underlying crime and because Cohen is so unreliable as a witness.
00:19:02.700But also, the Federal Election Commission investigated these matters and found no violation of law.
00:19:11.580So, again, Trump is restricted from letting the jury know any of those things.
00:19:18.320It just shows you the extent to which this is a rigged proceeding.
00:19:24.500Well, you know, it's amazing how many people don't even understand the basics of this case, right?
00:19:31.560I mean, the propaganda media wants you to just think, oh, hush money case, hush money case, hush money case.
00:19:36.820But the details behind that are really important to understand, as you briefly heard the attorney lay out there on the CNN clip and then Roger get into.
00:19:46.420And to step aside from that for a second, when I was reviewing just the, let's say, series of events, the chronology here,
00:19:57.040I actually landed on the conclusion, and I never said this out loud before until Roger just made this inference a second ago.
00:20:06.200Was it Cohen that was sleeping with Stormy Daniels?
00:20:09.320Because, really, when you kind of lay it all out and you look at all the different evidence and the timeline, it looks like it was actually Cohen that was paying for her silence.
00:20:19.480So that's an interesting riff in this clown story that we have here.
00:20:24.160But, no, the details of this case are really forgotten.
00:20:27.760All the prior chances that New York, the attorney general, the FEC, had to bring this case against Trump and said, there is no case here.
00:20:45.260So she fulfilled it, didn't have a crime, just said, we're going to go with this.
00:20:49.000So there's all kinds of dirty deeds that are behind this deal.
00:20:52.500And when you understand that, you realize that this whole case over, quote, unquote, hush money, well, that's just the nice headline, right?
00:21:03.240It's really not even about hush money, especially when Stormy Daniels writes a signed, I mean, essentially an affidavit claiming that there was no hush money.
00:21:12.040So what we're talking about here is essentially an NDA, and what we're talking about here is something that is very common when it comes to powerful men with a lot of money in positions like this.
00:21:25.900Sometimes you just want to swat a fly away.
00:21:28.800Whether the allegations are real or not, you just don't want to deal with a headache.
00:21:33.560And quite frankly, that's why a lot of women make accusations against men, because they know sometimes that's the approach that the men will take.
00:21:41.160So if you ask the average person, well, what is this case really about, they wouldn't be able to tell you.
00:21:48.260I mean, even the CNN hosts probably couldn't tell you, and they basically renamed, MSNBC and CNN have basically renamed their network to the Trump court case network.
00:21:58.820I mean, that's all they cover 24-7, and they have their bottom lines running and their headlines running.
00:22:03.260If you flip through the channels on your cable, it'll even say, like, on the box for the programming, you know, Trump case, Trump trial 24-7.
00:22:11.840So they've basically rewritten their entire programming to cover this thing.
00:22:15.560And even the people at CNN that are obsessed with this, they could not explain what's actually going on here.
00:22:47.500But whatever the conclusion of this case ends up being, which I think is going to be Trump walking, it's going to be another liberal cry fest.
00:23:32.200Yeah, I think the truth of the matter here is that we're only prosecuting this case because all of their other cases have stalled out.
00:23:41.600So originally, particularly with the large number of ordered redactions removed from the documents in the so-called documents case, it's looking more and more like a setup.
00:23:56.440It's looking more and more like the National Archives plotted with Trump's, pardon me, with Biden's White House counsel to set Trump up.
00:24:06.680Send him a pallet of documents he didn't ask for.
00:24:09.200As soon as you're sure that he's received them, then report him for being in possession of documents that he's not supposed to have.
00:24:16.940That was the case that I think was designed to take Trump down.
00:24:24.180His critics are very unhappy that he, in the luck of the draw, that case was assigned to Judge Eileen Cannon.
00:24:50.300Paul Manafort and General Flynn and I all went before judges who were appointed by Barack Obama.
00:24:57.100The Russian collusion hoax in which I was jammed up, even though I did nothing wrong, was born in the office of Barack Obama.
00:25:07.720But nobody said, oh, but the judge who sits on Flynn's trial or Stone's trial or Manafort's trial, that judge was appointed by Barack Obama.
00:25:23.220That case, to me, seems to be stalled.
00:25:26.320Then you have the January 6th case in which Special Counsel Jack Smith very specifically does not charge Trump with insurrection.
00:25:37.340The one charge for which, if he was convicted, he would be barred from running for president, but charges him with interference in the federal election.
00:25:50.420But because the court has agreed to give Trump his due process rights and the court has agreed not only firstly to hear the Colorado case that sought to bar him from the ballot, essentially in every state, but also surprisingly agreed to hear the immunity case.
00:26:13.060That's the question of whether Trump has constitutional immunity from all acts, all official acts, when he was president.
00:26:22.160Trump will argue that keeping fair, keeping for the enforcement of the law is part of his responsibility as president.
00:26:35.340And therefore, he's going to argue that all of his actions to ensure an honest election were constitutionally protected.
00:26:42.460What that means, however, is that Jack Smith is unlikely to get his case to trial before the election.
00:27:59.880Instead of going back to Mar-a-Lago, he had to jump on a plane in Miami to fly him to rainy New York, where he arrived after one o'clock in the morning so he can go sit in a trial all week.
00:28:14.060Think about the the the the stress that puts out a man who, you know, is dying to be on the campaign trail, who's dying to be out there with the people.
00:28:29.560Well, and I just want to ask a question, you know, for Roger and Owen here.
00:28:35.100Do you think that this because they're obviously trying to get some kind of charge to land against him?
00:28:40.680Do you think that they legitimately think that that's going to be politically effective or do you think that that's going to be used as a just a justification for them to steal the election?
00:28:53.620You know, I think trying to analyze what the Democrats are thinking from a reasonable person's perspective is a fool's errand, because these are not reasonable people.
00:29:43.480They've been obsessed with this man since he entered the race in 2015.
00:29:47.780I mean, that's what this is really about.
00:29:48.920The analogy that I use here, and, you know, not to be crass, but basically the American left, the Democrats, have been politically masturbating themselves over Donald Trump since 2015.
00:30:02.100And they haven't been able to finish, if you catch my drift.
00:30:06.380And so they're basically just trying to, you know, rub one off here for more than five years.
00:30:11.680And, you know, the arm's getting a little tired.
00:30:13.560And, you know, they're kind of getting sick of it.
00:30:15.780And they're just, like, waiting for that release.
00:30:19.440They've been sitting here politically masturbating themselves over this idea of Trump in a prison or Trump dead or Trump losing an election, whatever it is.
00:30:27.840And so they've been engaging in this political masturbation technique, and they just need that release.
00:30:34.020They just need Trump in prison or they need Trump dead or they need Trump to lose another election.
00:30:41.100And so, I mean, that's what we have here.
00:30:43.940And I don't think it's going to go the way they want it to.
00:30:46.240But, I mean, you know, maybe in a way if Trump does go to jail, that'll kind of give them a little, you know, relief for a second.
00:30:53.720But then they'll get right back to it.
00:30:55.320And it's, like, it's political masturbation for these people.
00:31:02.700And so they're just addicted to this thing.
00:31:06.340And they're never going to give it up, whether it's a judge, whether it's a host on CNN or MSNBC, whether it's some leftist liberal Democrat Trump hater out on the streets.
00:31:15.180It's just a giant political masturbation routine for them.
00:31:18.800And they just, they really need that release.
00:31:24.060And I just, you know, when they don't get it, you see what happens.
00:31:28.140The tugging and the jerking and the, it just gets more intense and more enthused.
00:31:33.480And eventually they just look like the psychos that they are.
00:31:36.060They're the Jeffrey Toobins of the world.
00:31:43.020Troy, there may be something to what you say.
00:31:46.160You know, as a long-term analyst of polls, I would point out that while President Trump is leading in every swing state, perhaps one where he's not, and leading nationally, in no poll is that lead insurmountable.
00:32:02.280And rarely do you see him break 50% of the vote, which to the trained eye is one of the factors you look for.
00:32:11.200So it is not inconceivable that if Trump were to go into election day with a small lead, but then based on irregularities or anomalies or perhaps even outright fraud, not become president after the count, it would allow the left to say, well, you see, it was his conviction in New York that swung voters against him.
00:34:12.460Back when Nixon, it was speculated that Nixon would pardon himself for crimes that he had not yet been charged with.
00:34:24.820In the end, Nixon was never charged with any crimes, but President Gerald Ford gave him a preemptive pardon against any charges, which obviously, constitutionally, he has the authority to do.
00:34:39.540Now, technically, lawyers I respect tell me that Trump would have the authority to pardon himself of federal crimes, and therefore he could, but even as the chief executive with authority over the Justice Department, he could choose to end these witch hunts if he was elected.
00:35:02.000But he has no ability to pardon himself from a state conviction.
00:35:08.780So this is why the Georgia case, which I think is really specious, and the New York cases continue to be problematic.
00:35:20.580If convicted of state charges, he has no authority to pardon himself.
00:35:26.520Now, I don't know that he would pardon himself on federal charges.
00:35:29.600That is simply speculation on my part, but I do believe that he would have the authority to do so.
00:35:44.420Before we do this, let's cut to a quick commercial break, and then we'll be back with that video and get Owen's reaction to it.
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00:38:46.260We're continuing with my co-host, Troy Smith.
00:38:50.480And our special guest, who's done us a great favor by getting up early this morning, our good friend, Owen Schroyer, who hosts The War Room, one of the greatest programs of all time, on InfoWars.com.
00:39:13.820So I want to go to Owen on this one first.
00:39:15.640This is Maxine Waters having a freakout on MSNBC the other day, claiming bizarrely that Trump has some kind of groups training up in the hills and that she's going to be urging Biden to look into these groups.
00:39:28.000Let's take a look at that and get Owen's opinion on the other side.
00:39:31.220This is a man who we'd better be careful about.
00:39:36.360I'm going to ask the Justice Department and I'm going to ask the president to tell us what they're going to do to protect this country against violence if he loses.
00:39:47.460I want to know about all of those right wing organizations that he's connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere and targeting, you know, what communities they're going to attack.
00:40:21.000Now, making that obvious observation here, let's actually listen and think about what she just said.
00:40:27.680When we go back to, I think it was 2016, Maxine Waters made public statements about basically encouraging violence against Trump supporters.
00:40:37.020She said, go find Trump supporters, surround them at the gasoline station, or I don't know what she said, some awkward diatribe she was having in public.
00:40:51.100We saw Trump supporters getting harassed and assaulted at colleges, at restaurants in the streets.
00:40:57.540And so that was a direct result of what Maxine Waters was calling for.
00:41:01.500Now, I'm not giving Maxine Waters really the credit for that.
00:41:04.160But what I'm saying is she's not having these thoughts on her own.
00:41:10.140She's basically putting out what she's hearing for the public now.
00:41:14.980So my guess is that just like what we saw in Michigan with the fake kidnapping plot of the governor all run by the feds and they get some unfortunate suckers to buy into it and then they get arrested.
00:41:27.360All the charges were dropped and they were acquitted, by the way.
00:41:30.580And now the FBI is being excoriated by the appeals court and the judge in that case.
00:41:35.240No, my guess is Maxine Waters is actually privy to information that feds are running groups right now, militias, right-wing activists, whatever you want to call it.
00:41:46.660And they're recruiting people that they're targeting, Trump supporters specifically, to go out probably into the woods to some compound, some cabin, whatever, learn firearms training.
00:41:57.920And they think they're going to overtake the government or whatever the case may be, very similar to the Whitmer case.
00:42:03.820So I think Maxine Waters here, Mad Max, I think that she's actually showing their hand.
00:42:10.540I think that this is probably actually going on.
00:42:16.160This is all fed sting operations, entrapment operations.
00:42:20.180But, yeah, my guess is that Maxine Waters is probably tipping a hand here and that the Democrats are running some federal operations and they're entrapping people in middle America, let's say, and maybe the, you know, the Appalachian Mountains or something.
00:42:46.240And she just wants to look like some sort of a genius by getting out in front of it and saying something first.
00:42:51.920So as crazy as she sounds and as she looks, I think that maybe she's tipping their hand.
00:42:59.840I wouldn't be surprised at all if there's a bunch of federal entrapment schemes being run right now to try to entrap right-wingers and Trump supporters and some sort of federal provocateur staged violence.
00:43:11.660And then they can say, see, see, we told you, the Trump supporters are violent.
00:43:15.260See, we told you, they were out in the hills.
00:43:18.200And it'll be like three unfortunate suckers and then, you know, 25 federal agents that run the whole thing, just like we saw in the Whitmer case.
00:43:27.120But, you know, stepping aside from the breakdown here, I mean, we really have a clown show, don't we, in D.C.?
00:43:33.560I mean, Roger, you've seen a lot of – you've covered a lot of Congress sessions.
00:43:38.600You've covered a lot of White House administrations.
00:43:40.700I mean, there's nothing like the clown show we got going right now.
00:43:44.280I mean, we got men dressing up as women, sending emails saying we're going to change kids' gender.
00:43:50.960We got mad Maxine Waters with a polished-up chrome dome putting on a wig and talking about people going out into the woods and shooting guns.
00:43:58.480I mean, there has never been more of a freak show, clown show than I think the current collection that we have in Washington, D.C.
00:44:07.180I mean, aside from the fact they're trying to destroy the country, I mean, this is truly entertaining stuff.
00:44:13.000I mean, mad Maxine Waters is a cartoon character of a person.
00:44:17.280Yeah, it really is Disneyland on the Potomac.
00:44:23.420I mean, perhaps she's asking the wrong question.
00:44:26.120I think the question she means to ask the Justice Department is, what are they going to do about the BLM-Antifa riots that will take place across the country if Trump is duly reelected?
00:44:39.260And you've already seen the answer to that.
00:44:41.940Senator Blumenthal, the Vietnam War hero senator from Connecticut, has introduced legislation to essentially remove civilian control of the military.
00:44:54.920In other words, take away any president, in this case Donald Trump's, ability to issue orders to the military.
00:45:03.240Now, under the Constitution, maintaining order is one of the first responsibilities of the president.
00:45:12.060And clearly they are seeking, I think it would be unconstitutional by the way, but they're thinking, seeking legislatively to remove that power from him.
00:45:22.920Which I think is just one section of the next hoax they intend to perpetrate in order to try to hijack the next election.
00:45:35.520Maxine Waters, who lives in a multimillion dollar mansion outside the district that she represents,
00:45:43.500and who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars with her famous slate cards, which is a handout for Election Day,
00:45:53.800which lists the candidates endorsed by Maxine Waters.
00:45:59.400You have to pay big, big bucks if you're a Democrat to get on that slate card.
00:46:05.060It's produced a very, very lucrative living for her daughter, particularly when you combine the consulting fees paid by her, by Maxine's campaign, to her daughter.
00:46:19.340She's not, as you point out, she's not a serious person.
00:46:22.260By the way, when she openly advocates violence in restaurants, in gas stations, in public, against other Americans,
00:46:32.180no one raises any question about charging her or the dangerousness of what she's advocated.
00:46:39.640Once again, your classic two-tiered justice.
00:48:53.080I mean, it really has reached the point of embarrassment.
00:48:57.820They do seem at least still intended to nominate him at their convention,
00:49:05.440which I think is at the end of July or perhaps early August.
00:49:09.260I still think it's entirely possible, now that they've cleared the field and that he clearly will have enough votes for re-nomination since no one was allowed to compete with him,
00:49:21.040that it is possible that he could release his delegates, announce that he is not resigning as president,
00:49:27.460but that he is not seeking another term based on his health.
00:49:32.800I still believe this is a scenario which is both legally and politically completely and totally possible.
00:49:41.220If you worked for him, can you imagine how you are holding your breath every time he opens his mouth?
00:49:50.680Well, holding your breath because you don't want to smell the crap that he just put in his diaper, too.
00:49:56.080I mean, let's be perfectly clear here.
00:49:57.580He quite literally crapped his pants on the White House lawn just a few days ago.
00:51:51.720The guy literally craps his pants on the White House lawn, and everybody sits there and watches it.
00:51:55.940His own wife has to hold her nose and walk away.
00:51:58.020But to talk about the Rogers point here, in 1968, when the DNC was held in Chicago, the Democrats, and I think some Republicans were involved, too, were rioting in Chicago.
00:52:13.700I think we're building up to a similar moment now.
00:52:16.320I think that these protests are going to crescendo into massive events outside of the Chicago Democrat Convention in mid-August.
00:52:24.700Now, these groups tried to get an official protest pass or whatever you want to call it, a permit to have a rally or a protest outside of the convention.
00:52:37.120They got denied by the local Chicago government.
00:52:40.100They got denied by the local Democrats.
00:52:42.460Well, now they're saying, well, we're just going to riot, basically.
00:52:45.140Well, we're just going to still have our events, and we're just going to be out on the streets, and we're going to disrupt your Democrat National Convention.
00:52:50.360So I foresee that happening, and I guess, Roger, my question would be, could that be the perfect excuse to remove Joe Biden, to have these massive demonstrations, these massive protests, where there are Democrats out there chanting F Joe Biden, and they just have to say, okay, well, we have to remove Joe Biden.
00:53:12.800So could you see maybe that being kind of the temple of doom, like switcheroo moment, where they take Biden out, and they kind of use the backdrop of the protests as the excuse?
00:53:23.900You know what, Owen, we're going to go to a quick commercial break, and I'm going to answer your question on the other side.
00:56:00.740That is whether pandemonium riots at the Democratic National Convention, reminiscent of those over the Vietnam War in 1968 in Chicago, could be the catalyst for Joe Biden's withdrawal.
00:56:17.820The answer is, I think, if he's going to withdraw, not because he believes his war policies are unpopular, not because he recognizes that his domestic record is a failure, but solely on the issue of health.
00:56:38.020If you saw his work, if he's going to have a lot of people's work, he's going to have a lot of people who are unpopular, not because he's going to be right back.
00:56:56.020And then he's going to have a lot of people who are unpopular, not because he's going to have a lot of people who are unpopular.
00:57:02.020and then he went on to say, who else could do what I have done? Who else indeed? So there is
00:57:09.760no recognition that his record as president is a failure, and going forward, he could never admit
00:57:20.900that. I do think, however, that this schism in the Democratic Party is truly problematic and is
00:57:29.920very reminiscent of the division you saw over the Vietnam War. Those people calling him Genocide
00:57:36.940Joe, those people who are protesting, for example, outside of Radio City Music Hall during his recent
00:57:44.240giant fundraiser there, those are not Republicans. Those are not conservatives. Those are not Trump
00:57:51.180supporters. Those are Democrats. And the cost of supporting both Iran and Israel in this
00:57:59.680conflict, I think, is badly dividing the Democratic Party. I'm afraid we are out of time. I want to
00:58:06.680thank my co-host, Troy Smith, from slingshot.news, and also my good friend, Owen Schroyer, who hosts
00:58:15.560The War Room at Infowars.com five days a week for joining us today. Until tomorrow, I'm Roger Stone.
00:58:24.400And on behalf of all of us here at the Stone Zone, God bless you, and Godspeed.
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