Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor to President Donald Trump. Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. Stone is a pop culture icon, and has been described as a "pop culture icon." He is an outspoken libertarian, and as an outspoken right-wing commentator, Stone has spoken to thousands of people across the political and cultural spectrum, and is a regular guest on conservative media outlets such as CNN and Fox News. He has been a long-time friend of President Trump, and served with the FBI, DEA, and the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO), a unit tasked with combating terrorism and terrorism-related threats against the U.S. government. In this episode, Stone analyzes the details of the most recent assassination attempt on the President, and considers the possibility that the Secret Service was either incompetent, or complicit in a cover-up, and/or complicit in some sort of gross negligence, by failing to act on a tip-off from the President's golf club security detail on the day of his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida, on June 14th, 2017. The Stone Zone is hosted by Roger Stone, a political strategist and political icon and pundit who has been around for decades. since the early days of the Trump administration. Roger Stone has long been a fixture in the conservative media landscape, and an avid reader of conservative culture, and long time supporter of the culture of the alt-right, and he has been an admirer of the right. . His articles have appeared in publications such as The Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard, The National Enquirer, and Rolling Stone, and The New Republic, among many other publications, including Playboy, The Globe and The Hollywood Reporter, among other publications. This is a must-listen-listens to Roger Stone s pronouncements on matters pertaining to politics, culture, politics, and pop culture. and the world of politics. He's a regular on social media, and social media and is widely well-known on the left-wing media, including the internet, and so-called among other things. His work has been widely syndicated in The Daily Mail, and on the internet.
00:03:16.120You are indeed the perfect guest to help us analyze what has gone down.
00:03:21.780Let's talk, first of all, about the assassination attempt itself.
00:03:26.740We learn that this man, Ryan Routh, who is alleged to be the assailant,
00:03:34.800flew from Hawaii to the United States, despite having no known source of income, claims to be unemployed.
00:03:46.140Would lay in wait, we're told, for 12 hours for Donald Trump, who has not announced a public schedule.
00:03:54.180Now, after he's been on the road campaigning for several days and on a beautiful Sunday afternoon,
00:04:02.140it's a no-brainer that Donald Trump would play golf.
00:04:05.540But he could have played golf at his golf club in Jupiter, Florida,
00:04:10.700which is only about 50 minutes north of West Palm Beach.
00:04:14.720He could have played golf at the Doral Golf Club that he owns, the Trump International Doral.
00:04:22.380That's only about 50 minutes south of Palm Beach, maybe 55.
00:04:28.020Or, of course, he could have gone to the Palm Beach course, which he did.
00:04:31.880I'm told, through my own sources, this appears no place on a printed schedule.
00:04:37.700It was a spur-of-the-moment decision, not the decision to play golf, but the decision to go to West Palm rather than one of his other courses.
00:04:48.060Yet, we're told that Mr. Routh waited for 12 hours at that location.
00:04:54.960Also, that the car he was driving was parked in the same location for a number of hours seems to have been undetected.
00:05:04.360So, I guess a good place to start, since you have served your country in the FBI and have extensive experience in these areas,
00:05:11.880is how is it that no one realized that he was there earlier?
00:05:17.020How do you think this actually happened?
00:05:18.660Well, this just leads to more questions and just logical deductions that you can make here.
00:05:25.200Because you either have to believe that this was woeful and criminal negligence on the part of the Secret Service,
00:05:32.020or there might be some sort of angle there.
00:05:36.300Because this individual, was it his habit to wait outside that golf course every single day for the hope that Donald Trump would drive up and he could shoot him?
00:05:45.640Was this the day that he decided to start the habit of waiting there every single day and this was just day one there?
00:05:51.980Or did he have some sort of advanced knowledge?
00:05:54.180And if he had advanced knowledge, was that through some sort of operational security failure, some gross negligence?
00:06:00.260Or was that information furnished to him?
00:06:02.620Outside of that, and having a decade and a half of experience in law enforcement investigations,
00:06:07.420I can't come up with anything else that you would be a starting point from as a theory as how this individual was there and undetected.
00:06:14.680And then my greatest concern from a security perspective is that, yes, he was there for 12 hours waiting.
00:06:20.020And you're telling me that a golf course that Donald Trump regularly plays at,
00:06:24.380and he's been under Secret Service's protection for the better part of a decade at this point?
00:06:28.440They haven't taken any sort of hardening measures there, knowing that a golf course itself is fairly dangerous
00:06:34.280because there's huge lines of sights and a rifle can hit him when he's multiple holes away.
00:06:39.780And that's not very a difficult shot that could be taken.
00:06:42.500You would think that Secret Service being subject matter experts on basic security would have taken all those things into account
00:06:49.900and would have done more to harden that area, unlike other golf courses that the former president might have played at.
00:06:55.500It wasn't like he'd stopped off at Augusta National that he doesn't regularly play at.
00:06:59.840This is one of his normal places he goes to, and you would think that they would create a measure there to ensure his security.
00:07:05.180Would they not, for example, have conducted a quick drone surveillance of the area?
00:07:12.340It seems to me that they would have that capability.
00:07:15.640You would think that there would be some sort of advance that would be done, either by physical and then drones.
00:07:21.620All those are tools that you can use in the advance.
00:07:24.280For the Secret Service to say that, just on a whim, Donald Trump wanted to go play golf when they know that it's Sunday
00:07:29.600and they know that he regularly plays golf, that they would have not gone ahead.
00:07:33.120And it wasn't like 3 o'clock in the morning.
00:07:35.880I mean, I'm sure that that sort of information, and you know him better than me, Roger,
00:07:39.960I'm sure that he gave them that his indication was to go, and they just didn't put it on the calendar because it was a Sunday
00:07:47.060and it wasn't really relevant to his campaign schedule or anything to that effect.
00:07:50.640And because that is such a regular event, it wasn't necessary to document it.
00:07:55.020There would be a regular advance done.
00:07:57.660But as we're now learning from Josh Hawley about the Butler rally, they weren't actually doing advances for that event itself.
00:08:05.900So just more and more failures that are stacking up in the column against the Secret Service,
00:08:11.160which is in a running gun battle, I guess, with my ex-girlfriend over at the FBI for the less capable and bigger failing agency at this point.
00:08:18.580Interesting reports that I saw said that not only did the man have his confrontation with the Secret Service,
00:08:28.720but he was able to get to his car and drive 50 miles north on Route 95.
00:08:35.280It was really only because some civilian had taken a picture of his license plate that they were ultimately able to catch him and arrest him.
00:08:53.540It's incredibly strange that, I mean, just think of the layperson.
00:08:56.360And look, we exist in a culture today where people are just anxious to whip out their phone and take pictures and videos of just about everything.
00:09:02.320But there are certain limits just in public settings.
00:09:05.500But this person was so strange and his behavior was so bizarre that standards by noticed him and documented it and got all that information and said,
00:09:14.120hey, something doesn't sound right about this guy.
00:09:15.960And we're able to relay that to law enforcement.
00:09:19.280And again, more questions about security here.
00:09:21.620They allowed him to drive away because they don't have the presence that is necessary right there.
00:09:28.020And fortunately, that information was communicated to the real police who did the real stop and the real law enforcement here.
00:09:35.040And to me, as someone who for the last two years has been banging the drum with the fact that federal law enforcement really isn't all it's cracked up to be.
00:09:42.460And we have great police officers and sheriff's deputies in this country that are fully capable of bringing law enforcement to its fruition properly.
00:09:49.620I think it's just another merit in that column here where the fact that those guys actually made the arrest and the feds were just all too happy to roll in too late to actually make a difference.
00:10:04.260So, as I indicated at the top, Governor Ron DeSantis announcing that he was going to conduct his own independent probe, his own independent investigation.
00:10:19.520Many, many Americans have lost confidence for obvious reasons with both the Secret Service after Butler, Pennsylvania, and in the FBI to, in essence, investigate themselves and their own conduct.
00:10:32.920But doesn't this kind of arrangement set up a potential for extensive conflict?
00:10:40.020In other words, who has current custody of the suspect?
00:10:48.120Do you anticipate roadblocks for a state investigation?
00:10:52.700The state does have a great deal of authority.
00:10:55.840On the other hand, you know, they're up against federal authorities here, who I'm sure are unhappy with the governor's decision to conduct his own investigation.
00:11:05.040But there are multiple violations of state law, far more than enough to legitimize and to rationalize the decision by Governor DeSantis.
00:11:16.740Look, what people have to understand is that it is not mutually exclusive to have a federal investigation occurring simultaneously with a state or a local investigation, because most violent crime is actually a state offense.
00:11:28.720There's very rare exceptions that fall within the federal jurisdiction.
00:11:32.520And that is typically something that is used to the advantage of law enforcement.
00:11:35.920I worked in partnerships with local guys, with tribal guys all the time.
00:11:41.920And normally, because we worked together and we played well together, one side would drop the charges and allow the other side to proceed on.
00:11:48.880We'd still play together in that sense.
00:11:50.760And the FBI is always claiming that they exist to aid and assist their local partners.
00:11:55.780And I'm applauding, like you, the governor here, for calling the FBI and the DOJ out on that bluff.
00:12:01.840Are you willing to be good partners here?
00:12:03.600And this is a great opportunity as well.
00:12:07.300What I would be interested to see is maybe some pressure from Mar-a-Lago to House Republicans to make funding to the FBI and the DOJ conditional on their willingness to partner fully with the Florida investigation.
00:12:21.860And if they're unwilling to do that, then their funding gets pulled back.
00:12:24.380And look, I don't have great confidence in congressional Republicans to have the, let's say, the testicular fortitude to make that.
00:12:31.980But at least it would message the assassination attempt beyond the 48-hour memory hole that the media is trying to put it in.
00:12:38.680Now, let's keep the conversation going on this because I think it is good for the Trump campaign to continue to hammer that home and point out that there's now been two attempts on his life.
00:12:48.680But as far as logistically, Florida has a force of law.
00:12:51.780They can execute search warrants and subpoenas.
00:12:54.240They can conduct their own independent investigation.
00:12:56.380As far as chain of custody with evidence, the FBI should cooperate with them.
00:13:00.840As far as access to the suspect himself, he is in federal custody.
00:13:06.480He's going to be represented at this time by a federal defense attorney.
00:13:11.240I'm not going to hold my breath that he will cooperate and do any sort of interview with any law enforcement, but they would ask for that ability to do it.
00:13:21.220They can conduct this independent investigation at a state level.
00:13:24.660And I like the idea of putting the FBI for a decision on its ships of are you going to continue this charade of we're really here to help local law enforcement or are you not?
00:13:34.460And I think ultimately will be borne out that they're not there for that, particularly when you have Jeffrey Veltri, who's in charge of the FBI Miami field office.
00:13:42.700And he's a political partisan who, before assuming that post, had to erase his social media anti-Trump vitriol so that he could represent Miami in an area that Mar-a-Laco was within his area of responsibility.
00:13:54.920So just to be absolutely clear, the head of the Miami office of the FBI had to erase his anti-Trump social media postings before he was allowed to be transferred to that position.
00:18:50.600Please, get up in the face of some Congress people.
00:18:54.140Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
00:19:02.140It's an actor dressed to look just like President Donald Trump as he's assassinated on stage.
00:19:09.080Look as his character is stabbed to death.
00:19:11.660But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence.
00:19:34.300Even if we were to have a resounding blue wave come through, as many of us would like, putting it all back together again after we've gone through this MAGA nightmare and re-educating basically, which that sounds like a rather, a re-education camp.
00:19:52.640You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
00:19:57.280He is destructive to our democracy and he has to be, he has to be eliminated.
00:20:39.440It's interesting, yesterday I saw online that not only did the White House press spokeswoman refuse to continue to stop saying that Trump is a threat to democracy, her answer to a question as to why she just kept saying January 6th, January 6th, deeply, deeply disturbing.
00:21:02.300In other cases, particularly Kamala Harris, she blamed the guns.
00:21:07.100In other words, it wasn't the overheated rhetoric and hateful rhetoric of Democrats.
00:21:26.220Well, it's almost like law-abiding people are the only ones who obey gun laws, and that people who are willing to break the law will not abide by gun laws, which is what we all know.
00:21:37.900But the truth of the matter is that the federal government resents the Second Amendment, just as they resent the First Amendment.
00:21:43.800As you saw from that clip there, Hillary Clinton thinking that people should be jailed for saying things that she doesn't like.
00:21:49.200And for the last couple of years, speaking out against my former employer over at the FBI, I have said the cautionary tale here is that there is a rising temperature.
00:21:59.480This is a boiling pot that exists in this country largely, if not exclusively, because of the communist left that is not hesitating at all to use that sort of language and indoctrinate young people, or in this case with this most recent shooter.
00:22:14.240I mean, if you listen to his media, he kind of has the mentality of a young person.
00:22:18.540It's really not what you would expect from a man in his 50s.
00:22:20.980But for the person Crooks in Pennsylvania, indoctrinated for 10 years, and this is the sort of rhetoric to think that electing the Republican nominee for office will end the country entirely because this person is a Nazi, is Hitler.
00:22:38.540It's convinced half of the country that the other half cannot be negotiated with, cannot even have a polite conversation with.
00:22:46.320People can disagree over policy issues, and they can have conversations, and they might debate, and they might never agree, but they'll never actually have that in a Republican form of government, small-r Republican, if they think that the other person has a suicide vest strapped to their chest.
00:23:02.140And that is what our federal government has been weaponized to lead half of the country to believe.
00:23:07.260And because of that, you believe there's an existential threat to electing the Republican nominee for president, who's also been the president before.
00:23:15.160And for those four years, I didn't see an end to democracy, as they caution us against.
00:23:20.140So there's actually a proof of concept that that won't happen.
00:23:22.780And you are weaponized and made the teeth on the attack dog, the FBI, to go after people as a secret police force, as a Stasi and KGB.
00:23:31.100They're going to contribute greatly to the fact that this pot has boiled over, and we've seen the very early stages of that now, and two assassination attempts within 65 days of each other.
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00:25:00.040We salute you, my friend, for your bravery and your courage, and appreciate your bringing your expertise today on The Stone Zone.
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00:27:11.200Well, the deep state desperately wants Trump dead or out of the picture, and they're going to keep trying, keep trying over and over again.
00:27:18.440Overnight, we learned a lot more about the latest Patsy who tried to kill President Trump.
00:27:22.740Journalist George Eliason has uncovered evidence that shooter Ryan Routh was legally acting as a Ukrainian agent.
00:27:29.860So the question is, did he file with the DOJ under the FARA Act?
00:28:32.180I mean, first, I look at this from a historical point of view.
00:28:35.520I wrote a book in 1913, 2013, about the assassination of President Kennedy.
00:28:42.200I concluded and documented the Secret Service's role in standing down.
00:28:46.540Right now, I'm working on a book on the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, the full story of which has never been told.
00:28:53.540I will document government misconduct in that case as well.
00:28:58.740The questions coming out of Butler are more troubling every week.
00:29:02.700A majority of the president's detail were not Secret Service agents, but Department of Homeland Security agents who had had a two-hour online tutorial on executive protection.
00:29:13.960They knew there was a gunman with a gun inside the perimeter for 92 minutes, and they never told the president or his detail or evacuated him.
00:29:37.000Donald Trump is on his way to winning this election, and they fear justice, not revenge, justice, meaning people being treated equally under the law.
00:29:48.640There was a lot of treasonous activity during the final days of the Obama administration.
00:29:56.440I think that they fear being brought to justice.
00:30:01.140And you bring up the Secret Service piece of this.
00:30:03.060I mean, what we've learned overnight from the Secret Service is that, well, there's a lot of shrubs, shrubbery, you know.
00:30:09.500It reminded me of the old Monty Python sketch, shrubbery.
00:30:12.340Like, they can't deal with sloped roofs and shrubbery.
00:30:15.400And the Secret Service, because he wasn't a sitting president, had a lighter detail around the golf course.
00:30:21.520Of course, new video has emerged of President Obama, Martha's Vineyard playing golf.
00:30:26.140The Secret Service is examining every car that rolls through the golf course.
00:30:33.060But it seems there's a double standard for President Trump.
00:30:36.940Well, first of all, we should ship the Secret Service back to the Treasury Department and out of the more politicized Department of Homeland Security.
00:30:45.920Just the way that they denied protection to Robert Kennedy.
00:30:54.440I'm now delighted that they've joined in what could be the making of a new American majority.
00:31:00.700But the idea that they would not give him service when he was fully legally qualified and while the media was whipping up this hate against him, just another example of the irresponsibility and the politicization of the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service.
00:31:18.380Were you surprised that the legacy media almost basically comes out, labels this guy almost like a lone gunman once again?
00:31:29.840And then any of us who start digging into his past that he's in Ukraine, you don't go to Ukraine, you don't fight in Ukraine, come back and not have some connection to the United States government.
00:34:40.860But the question is, will they actually do it?
00:34:43.820It disappoints me that Corey Mills and Clay Higgins, some of the most qualified people to be on the committee, were not appointed to the committee by the speaker.
00:34:55.740Corey Mills being a counter-sniper himself and a huge, extensive military experience.
00:35:03.480These are the right people to be investigating this crime, but they didn't get appointed to the committee.
00:36:05.720I think that they grow increasingly desperate as the real Kamala Harris is exposed,
00:36:13.500as people learn that she's not some likable moderate who's going to unify us,
00:36:17.600but an extreme radical that would defund the police and who would require every taxpayer to pay for the health care of everybody in the country illegal.
00:39:39.720That was a way of him showing people that he wasn't hurt so that they would so they would have hope and keep the faith.
00:39:45.920I think that was an extraordinarily courageous act.
00:39:48.800Well, I think it all comes down to the Secret Service.
00:39:51.480And I agree with you from your earlier statements and how sitting president, you know, not a sitting president of the United States, but just a few weeks after he's nearly killed.
00:40:01.260You don't have a larger detail now with him.
00:41:16.700But they are contributing to this atmosphere of hate in which you can see some deranged person or someone who's politically motivated try to kill him.
00:41:28.220So somebody has to say they need to temper down the rhetoric.
00:41:34.080They need to bring down the temperature.
00:41:36.000I don't think they're going to do that because I don't think they believe they can beat Donald Trump without smearing him, without creating this caricature of him.
00:42:12.500When she was a California prosecutor, Kamala Harris had an extraordinarily controversial policy of targeting parents whose children were not attending school.
00:42:26.940She would later say that no one was actually ever arrested or jailed under this policy.
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