The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist

00:00:09.620 and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:13.200 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide

00:00:15.640 to three Republican presidents.

00:00:17.480 He is a New York Times bestselling author

00:00:19.200 and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:23.180 As an outspoken libertarian,

00:00:24.820 Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:27.100 spoken at countless venues,

00:00:28.520 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union

00:00:31.700 and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:34.140 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,

00:00:37.340 Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:39.460 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:47.080 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:51.540 We have a very special guest today.

00:00:54.700 General Michael Flynn was the 42nd National Security Advisor

00:01:00.560 of the United States.

00:01:02.220 He is retired as a Lieutenant General in the United States Army.

00:01:07.740 He had key roles in shaping counterterrorism strategy

00:01:12.100 and dismantling insurgent networks in Afghanistan and Iraq War.

00:01:17.740 Like me, he was unfairly and politically targeted

00:01:23.440 by the Mueller investigation,

00:01:25.860 and he has overcome that adversity,

00:01:28.700 as I did, through the grace of God.

00:01:31.900 Joining me to welcome General Flynn to the Stone Zone

00:01:36.360 is my usual co-host,

00:01:38.600 Troy Smith of SlingshotNews.com.

00:01:41.880 Troy, welcome to the show.

00:01:44.180 It's an honor to be here, Roger.

00:01:45.060 We have limited time with General Flynn.

00:01:48.860 He has an exciting announcement to make

00:01:51.780 about the upcoming biographical film

00:01:55.000 and also a book about his great career.

00:01:58.460 And we're proud to welcome General Flynn

00:02:00.920 to the Stone Zone now.

00:02:04.180 Hi, guys. Hi, Troy, Roger.

00:02:06.500 Thank you for having me.

00:02:07.820 And it's very, very exciting and interesting times,

00:02:11.240 to be sure, in the United States of America

00:02:13.300 and, frankly, around the world.

00:02:15.100 I had a call this morning with a friend of mine in Italy,

00:02:18.800 of all places.

00:02:20.020 And, you know, the people around the world

00:02:23.840 are paying so close attention to American politics.

00:02:28.860 And, Roger, you probably, in your years of being

00:02:31.460 in and around national and international politics,

00:02:35.860 you probably have seen some of this.

00:02:37.520 But I think the level of interest,

00:02:39.120 because of everything going on

00:02:41.280 with our friend Donald Trump

00:02:43.100 and everything going on with American politics today,

00:02:46.520 has got everybody's attention

00:02:48.060 as to whether or not, you know,

00:02:50.080 this country is going to be able to continue

00:02:52.640 down this path that we have been on

00:02:56.380 for the better part of 250 years almost, right?

00:03:00.800 So we have 230 days remaining-ish, you know,

00:03:07.160 plus or minus to where we hit the November election.

00:03:11.180 So I am one of these people,

00:03:16.460 I think, as you are, certainly, Roger,

00:03:18.580 and I know for young Troy there,

00:03:22.020 listening to your show, The Stone Zone, all the time,

00:03:25.080 you guys are speaking with some of the top

00:03:30.340 high-profile people in our country,

00:03:33.740 and I think everybody has that same sense.

00:03:36.880 And that's kind of where my head is at today.

00:03:39.020 You know, when I say today,

00:03:40.480 it's strategically, I am very, very concerned

00:03:44.220 about who is leading our country,

00:03:48.020 the direction, the strategic direction

00:03:49.960 that our country is taking.

00:03:51.240 And, you know, and I can, you know,

00:03:55.300 we can spend all day talking about all kinds of things.

00:03:57.600 So I'll throw it back to you, Roger,

00:03:59.520 to kind of, you know, lead this a little bit

00:04:01.740 as we go forward here for the next few minutes

00:04:04.620 and talk about some of the things

00:04:07.180 that I know your audience is interested in.

00:04:09.640 Well, you and I have had the privilege

00:04:11.920 of speaking at the Great Reawaken America Tours.

00:04:15.920 These events across the country

00:04:17.860 have helped energize and motivate

00:04:20.380 thousands and thousands of people

00:04:23.020 who were never involved in politics before.

00:04:26.280 And it is at every one of them that I have said

00:04:29.140 that in a 45-year career in American politics,

00:04:32.820 I've had an opportunity to work with presidents

00:04:35.560 and governors and U.S. senators and congressmen

00:04:39.720 and a few military leaders.

00:04:41.720 But I have never known any finer patriot,

00:04:45.060 any finer gentleman,

00:04:46.700 any finer leader than General Michael Flynn.

00:04:50.560 I'm proud to be his friend.

00:04:52.660 And I still believe, General,

00:04:54.520 that your greatest public service lies ahead.

00:04:58.420 People don't understand the extraordinary number of hours

00:05:02.640 that you clocked traveling back and forth

00:05:05.560 across this country,

00:05:07.260 waking people up as to the dangers that we face.

00:05:12.340 And early in our friendship,

00:05:15.540 it's interesting,

00:05:16.880 General Flynn and I were friends by phone and text

00:05:20.520 for well over a year

00:05:22.120 before we ever met for the very first time

00:05:24.860 on January 5th.

00:05:26.980 And just for the record,

00:05:28.120 no, neither one of us was ever

00:05:29.900 in any war room in the Willard,

00:05:32.140 and neither one of us had any advanced knowledge

00:05:35.260 or involvement,

00:05:36.780 nor did we condone any illegal activity

00:05:39.660 on January 6th.

00:05:41.840 It's a shame that we have to say that,

00:05:43.740 but the fake news media

00:05:45.680 recycles that BS every single day.

00:05:49.260 One of the first things I told General Flynn

00:05:51.720 early in our friendship was,

00:05:53.360 I thought it was important

00:05:54.400 that he memorialized the truth

00:05:57.220 about what happened to him

00:05:59.260 and why he was targeted

00:06:00.360 and how it worked out

00:06:01.940 in both a documentary and a book.

00:06:04.940 And now, to my delight and excitement,

00:06:08.380 he has done exactly that.

00:06:11.120 We have an upcoming film.

00:06:13.040 Let's show that trailer.

00:06:14.740 It's a good way to set the table

00:06:16.800 and then let General Flynn talk about it.

00:06:19.500 Sound's rolling.

00:06:20.520 All three cameras, we're good.

00:06:22.180 Andy, you're speed.

00:06:24.720 Is there any regrets that you have in life?

00:06:28.040 I should sit here and say,

00:06:29.760 yeah, I got a lot of regrets.

00:06:31.780 But when I look back on my life

00:06:34.500 and I understand the lives that were lost,

00:06:39.100 I mean, I'm sitting here with you.

00:06:43.480 And I can tell my story.

00:06:46.040 Former National Security Advisor

00:06:47.600 Lieutenant General Michael Flynn

00:06:48.860 pleading guilty today for lying to the FBI.

00:06:51.420 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.

00:06:53.680 He was, by definition,

00:06:55.200 the most dangerous possible person

00:06:57.500 for Donald Trump to hire.

00:06:59.300 Certainly brilliant military career,

00:07:01.160 serving 33 years old.

00:07:03.020 Why was he being so elusive?

00:07:03.960 Mike Flynn pulled the truth

00:07:05.500 and faced life in prison.

00:07:17.700 Wow.

00:07:18.180 This is going to be very, very exciting.

00:07:21.160 So, General Flynn, tell us about the movie

00:07:22.960 when it's coming out.

00:07:25.380 Go ahead, please.

00:07:26.300 The floor is yours.

00:07:26.920 Yeah, it's wonderful.

00:07:28.120 And thank you for playing that trailer,

00:07:30.480 or teaser, I guess we call it.

00:07:33.300 And so for everybody that will reach out,

00:07:37.700 you can go to FlynnMovie.com,

00:07:39.200 FlynnMovie.com,

00:07:40.140 and you can pre-order DVDs.

00:07:42.440 You can look at our tour,

00:07:43.920 our upcoming tour.

00:07:45.400 As Roger said prior,

00:07:46.920 I've been all over this country with Roger,

00:07:48.760 actually,

00:07:49.140 in the Reawaken America tour,

00:07:51.040 where we've been to almost 25 cities

00:07:53.100 in the last couple of years.

00:07:54.240 My plan for this film,

00:07:57.360 starting in early April,

00:07:58.620 I'm going to go to 33 cities as we stand,

00:08:01.600 as I sit here right now,

00:08:03.180 over a two-month period of time,

00:08:05.180 all across the country.

00:08:06.180 We're going to start here in Florida

00:08:07.300 and go literally around the country,

00:08:10.060 as far west as California,

00:08:12.020 as far north and west as Washington,

00:08:14.780 back up into the New England states,

00:08:17.220 and then all the way back down the East Coast,

00:08:19.280 as well as many states out in the Midwest.

00:08:21.420 So that's going to begin early April.

00:08:25.440 You can go to FlynnMovie.com and see the tour,

00:08:28.760 and you can purchase tickets

00:08:29.860 through various means there on that website.

00:08:35.700 The movie.

00:08:36.420 So, and Roger,

00:08:37.840 and for your audience,

00:08:39.600 you are one of the reasons

00:08:41.220 why I really put my nose to the grindstone,

00:08:45.040 so to speak,

00:08:46.000 to get this out,

00:08:47.580 but to get it out at the time

00:08:49.600 that I needed to get it out,

00:08:50.620 which is right now.

00:08:52.180 And because I think that the timing,

00:08:54.600 had I done it a couple of years ago

00:08:56.300 when we really first started to talk about it,

00:08:58.600 and you were sort of coaching and counseling me,

00:09:02.060 I just didn't feel like it was right then,

00:09:04.200 because I wanted to let some other things

00:09:06.500 play out in the country

00:09:07.480 to see just how far the left might go.

00:09:12.180 And obviously, people now see

00:09:14.360 the left has gone very far,

00:09:16.720 and they're not going to back off.

00:09:18.740 They're going to double down.

00:09:19.860 So, what this movie is about,

00:09:22.380 and I'll just describe it in really,

00:09:24.420 it's three parts.

00:09:25.800 The first part is a sort of a testimonial

00:09:30.740 and some background

00:09:32.660 on my military experiences,

00:09:36.680 and frankly, the military experiences

00:09:38.560 of the United States of America.

00:09:40.340 So, I spent about half this movie

00:09:43.700 talking about military operations and activities,

00:09:48.120 because I think it's good background

00:09:51.580 and perspective for the audience to have

00:09:54.160 as I lead into the second part of the movie,

00:09:58.060 really the second half of the movie,

00:09:59.360 which is the persecution of what I went through,

00:10:04.060 my family and I went through,

00:10:05.440 and you know many of my family, Roger,

00:10:07.260 what much of my family

00:10:09.140 and my extended family went through.

00:10:12.240 And that's, so people are going to be introduced

00:10:14.320 to many of my family in this movie.

00:10:17.440 You heard, for those that didn't recognize

00:10:19.940 in the teaser,

00:10:21.460 you heard Tucker Carlson's voice,

00:10:23.880 and you heard Devin Nunez's voice.

00:10:26.580 Tucker Carlson actually plays

00:10:28.500 a fairly significant role in this movie

00:10:30.140 with some really great statements and pieces.

00:10:34.960 It's a bit of a documentary and a feature film

00:10:37.900 because of some of the way that we've used

00:10:40.080 some very creative ways to show things

00:10:43.400 as well as to talk about things.

00:10:45.400 And then, of course, Devin Nunez,

00:10:46.820 who I've known for, jeez,

00:10:48.400 I think going on almost 25 years,

00:10:50.180 I've known Devin Nunez

00:10:51.040 when he first came out to Iraq

00:10:53.980 as part of the House Intel Committee.

00:10:57.240 And he and I have had a chance

00:10:59.260 to sit down with a group of other congressmen

00:11:01.400 to talk about the war in Iraq

00:11:02.980 at the time wasn't going so well.

00:11:05.620 And so we've known each other for quite a while.

00:11:08.340 So those two individuals,

00:11:09.680 Lee Smith, who's a bestselling author,

00:11:11.460 and his book, Plot Against the President,

00:11:13.700 was turned into a great documentary as well,

00:11:16.920 is part of it.

00:11:18.400 And then other close friends

00:11:20.920 that were part of this persecution journey

00:11:24.320 that I went through.

00:11:25.360 And then, of course, my family.

00:11:28.400 And I think one of the things

00:11:29.320 that's going to come out,

00:11:30.620 I think, very powerfully

00:11:32.200 is my wife, actually.

00:11:34.340 And you always talk about

00:11:35.480 your beautiful wife

00:11:36.360 and the miracles

00:11:38.020 that you guys have experienced

00:11:39.280 in your lives.

00:11:40.720 And I think the rawness

00:11:42.800 from my wife

00:11:45.900 and the Lori

00:11:47.680 and my son, Michael, in particular,

00:11:50.880 I think that will resonate

00:11:52.020 with a lot of families

00:11:53.200 in this country,

00:11:54.620 a lot of people who are being

00:11:56.680 or who have been persecuted.

00:11:58.900 And we know that there's

00:11:59.660 a lot of people being persecuted

00:12:01.000 from the January 6th debacle,

00:12:05.000 the unselect committee

00:12:06.020 that we had

00:12:07.460 that we now know

00:12:08.300 is just what was,

00:12:10.220 I mean, they destroyed

00:12:10.940 all kinds of evidence, right?

00:12:12.720 And then at the very tail end

00:12:15.380 is where we address hope, right?

00:12:19.500 And I call this the sort of,

00:12:21.300 at the end,

00:12:21.820 it's sort of the story of survival.

00:12:23.420 And if I can survive

00:12:25.880 what I went through,

00:12:27.400 and very few people understand

00:12:29.160 what I'm talking about, Roger,

00:12:30.980 other than people like you.

00:12:32.340 So it's great that I'm able

00:12:33.320 to kind of break some of this

00:12:35.160 on your show

00:12:36.600 because this is,

00:12:38.020 I haven't explained it like this.

00:12:39.420 I haven't explained the film

00:12:40.180 like this anywhere else.

00:12:41.700 So this story of survival

00:12:43.420 is really important

00:12:45.860 because I think the audiences

00:12:47.900 that will watch this

00:12:49.020 are going to look at this

00:12:50.060 and say, oh my God,

00:12:51.460 you know, if these people

00:12:53.580 can withstand what they withstood,

00:12:55.960 because it's not just,

00:12:57.580 you know, I point out

00:12:58.720 the Obama administration

00:13:01.360 and the evil deeds

00:13:02.960 that the Obama administration

00:13:04.520 was doing to the Trump campaign,

00:13:07.300 the Trump transition,

00:13:08.300 and then, of course,

00:13:08.940 the Trump administration,

00:13:10.260 but also the inside

00:13:12.200 White House establishment figures

00:13:15.160 that I do address in there

00:13:17.660 that were also surrounding

00:13:20.220 Donald Trump

00:13:21.400 to keep him in the box,

00:13:24.100 so to speak, right?

00:13:25.440 To keep Donald Trump in the box.

00:13:27.060 And then if he got out of the box,

00:13:28.760 you know, to try to rein him back in.

00:13:30.800 And as you know better than

00:13:31.880 anybody else, frankly,

00:13:34.320 that's a very difficult thing

00:13:35.820 to do with President Trump.

00:13:38.360 So this story of survival

00:13:39.880 and then these insights

00:13:43.300 of where we can find hope

00:13:45.780 as a nation,

00:13:46.720 where did Mike Flynn,

00:13:49.040 where did General Mike Flynn

00:13:49.920 find hope?

00:13:51.100 Where did the people

00:13:52.020 that experienced this

00:13:52.940 with me find hope?

00:13:54.220 And I think that message

00:13:55.360 will resonate

00:13:55.940 with a lot of people.

00:13:57.680 It will,

00:13:58.660 you'll come away

00:13:59.540 from the film,

00:14:00.900 it's emotional,

00:14:03.320 you will feel

00:14:04.520 a sense of anger,

00:14:06.020 you will get a,

00:14:07.260 you will get an insight

00:14:08.360 into the levels of corruption

00:14:09.780 in our government

00:14:10.480 that I think everybody sees,

00:14:13.200 but we've tried

00:14:14.140 to package it

00:14:14.980 into one piece here.

00:14:17.280 The other thing,

00:14:17.980 and I'll break this

00:14:18.920 on your show

00:14:19.880 because we are close

00:14:21.500 to finishing the book

00:14:22.680 because you mentioned the book.

00:14:24.960 So there will be

00:14:25.860 a book that will be

00:14:28.380 coming out here

00:14:29.200 within the next couple

00:14:30.080 of months.

00:14:31.180 The movie is called

00:14:32.460 Flynn,

00:14:33.580 Deliver the Truth

00:14:34.400 Whatever the Cost.

00:14:36.160 Now,

00:14:36.480 I took the book

00:14:37.180 in a little bit

00:14:37.760 different direction

00:14:38.620 and the book

00:14:40.840 is going to be called

00:14:41.860 Pardon of Innocence,

00:14:43.500 Pardon of Innocence

00:14:44.480 because I was found

00:14:46.200 not guilty

00:14:46.860 at the end of the day

00:14:48.320 by the Department of Justice

00:14:49.480 and then a really vicious judge

00:14:52.120 grabbed me around the throat

00:14:54.520 and dragged me on

00:14:55.280 for another eight months,

00:14:56.680 totally unprecedented

00:14:57.520 in U.S. history

00:14:58.620 after a Department of Justice

00:15:01.260 had dismissed the case,

00:15:02.260 never been done before.

00:15:03.660 This judge dragged it out

00:15:04.820 for another eight months

00:15:05.740 at significant financial costs.

00:15:08.640 As you know, Roger.

00:15:10.000 And it ended up

00:15:10.980 having to get a pardon

00:15:12.140 from a president

00:15:13.200 that they argued.

00:15:14.780 I know this.

00:15:15.380 They argued inside

00:15:16.020 the White House

00:15:16.480 this guy doesn't need a pardon

00:15:17.520 because he's been

00:15:18.660 proven innocent

00:15:19.420 and the Department of Justice

00:15:21.240 dismissed the case.

00:15:23.840 But I think,

00:15:25.080 you know,

00:15:25.360 thank God,

00:15:26.100 and this is like

00:15:26.740 probably miracles in my life

00:15:28.280 like many happened in yours.

00:15:29.940 You know,

00:15:30.080 I think Trump had to,

00:15:31.660 he understood

00:15:33.120 what was happening

00:15:33.960 and he realized

00:15:35.240 that that judge

00:15:35.800 was never going to let me go

00:15:36.900 and more than likely

00:15:37.660 had he left the White House,

00:15:39.120 this is right after

00:15:39.760 the 2020 election,

00:15:40.860 but had he left the White House,

00:15:41.860 which he ended up doing,

00:15:43.160 somehow they would have

00:15:44.020 figured out,

00:15:44.500 the deep state would have

00:15:45.160 figured out a way

00:15:45.660 to get me back in.

00:15:47.140 So the name of the book

00:15:48.560 and I'm breaking in here

00:15:49.500 is Pardon of Innocence

00:15:50.600 and that'll be available

00:15:52.660 here very soon.

00:15:54.280 So, you know,

00:15:55.360 Roger,

00:15:55.880 thank you very much

00:15:56.820 for being in the back

00:15:59.460 of my head

00:16:00.120 all the time

00:16:00.900 whispering,

00:16:01.500 saying,

00:16:02.240 you got to get this,

00:16:03.140 you got to document this.

00:16:04.240 This is a very,

00:16:05.160 very huge part

00:16:07.240 of U.S. history.

00:16:09.080 I never thought

00:16:09.960 that I would be

00:16:10.440 at the fulcrum

00:16:11.180 of history like this

00:16:12.440 and yet here I am

00:16:14.320 and so that

00:16:15.820 this story will be told.

00:16:17.700 You know,

00:16:17.940 if we go down the road,

00:16:20.440 you know,

00:16:20.860 and they end up

00:16:21.520 burning books,

00:16:22.640 guarantee mine will be

00:16:23.480 one of the first books

00:16:24.260 burned

00:16:24.700 and the movie will

00:16:26.320 more likely be

00:16:28.100 melted,

00:16:29.340 melted down.

00:16:30.120 But anyway,

00:16:31.560 thanks for allowing me

00:16:32.800 to talk a little bit

00:16:33.520 about that, Roger.

00:16:34.440 Flynnmovie.com

00:16:35.560 is where people

00:16:36.400 can find it.

00:16:38.580 General Flynn,

00:16:39.360 the reason I always

00:16:40.080 thought it was important

00:16:41.100 is because

00:16:42.100 the left is relentless.

00:16:44.760 They create

00:16:45.280 a false narrative.

00:16:47.220 We had a great video

00:16:48.200 of Nancy Pelosi

00:16:49.100 actually saying this

00:16:49.980 yesterday,

00:16:50.800 it doesn't matter

00:16:51.600 how debunked,

00:16:53.140 disproved,

00:16:53.920 discredited it is.

00:16:55.680 If you just wait

00:16:56.400 a couple of days,

00:16:57.260 they'll be back

00:16:57.900 and recycle it

00:16:58.920 yet again.

00:16:59.780 So,

00:17:00.600 for example,

00:17:01.860 General Flynn,

00:17:03.120 when he was waiting

00:17:04.660 to take office

00:17:05.380 as the national security

00:17:06.740 advisor,

00:17:07.900 spoke to the Russian

00:17:08.860 ambassador

00:17:09.480 and assured him

00:17:10.820 that President Trump

00:17:11.840 would remove sanctions

00:17:12.860 against Russia.

00:17:13.940 That is a damnable lie.

00:17:16.540 It is false.

00:17:18.040 But they come back

00:17:19.160 and they recycle it

00:17:20.260 again and again.

00:17:21.820 I took a minute

00:17:22.980 in preparation

00:17:23.780 for this interview

00:17:25.060 to look at

00:17:26.060 your Wikipedia page.

00:17:27.780 Folks,

00:17:28.520 don't bother.

00:17:29.340 It's virtually

00:17:31.300 all fiction.

00:17:33.020 It's completely wrong.

00:17:34.860 It's a hit piece.

00:17:37.040 And it is absolutely clear

00:17:39.120 that General Flynn

00:17:40.400 not only did anything wrong,

00:17:41.900 but he was pressured

00:17:43.540 into pleading to things

00:17:44.840 that he had never done

00:17:46.980 to protect members

00:17:48.280 of his own family.

00:17:49.400 What could be more

00:17:50.200 vicious than that?

00:17:51.720 Yet the prosecutor

00:17:52.940 who abused his authority

00:17:54.660 and his power

00:17:55.340 in the Flynn case,

00:17:56.300 it goes unpunished.

00:17:58.260 There are no consequences

00:17:59.640 for him.

00:18:01.260 It is absolutely outrageous.

00:18:04.420 General Flynn,

00:18:04.880 we've canceled

00:18:05.880 the commercial break

00:18:07.460 so we can keep

00:18:08.260 talking to you

00:18:09.620 through the end

00:18:11.500 of the period.

00:18:12.320 I know you have

00:18:12.820 a limited amount

00:18:13.960 of time to be with us.

00:18:15.400 Question I have to ask you,

00:18:16.920 putting on your hat

00:18:18.440 as a military expert,

00:18:20.080 I keep seeing

00:18:21.680 in the media

00:18:22.440 this war propaganda

00:18:24.660 that tells me

00:18:26.500 that the Ukrainians

00:18:27.660 are somehow prevailing

00:18:29.020 in the conflict

00:18:31.300 between Ukraine

00:18:32.740 and Russia.

00:18:34.420 Now,

00:18:34.960 you and I

00:18:35.460 are going to

00:18:36.380 be branded

00:18:37.340 as pro-Russian,

00:18:38.420 which is nonsensical,

00:18:39.920 simply because

00:18:40.560 we don't want

00:18:41.480 to send billions

00:18:42.380 more to the Ukrainian

00:18:44.000 government

00:18:44.520 because it's corrupt.

00:18:45.700 But what is

00:18:46.700 your assessment

00:18:47.320 of what's going on

00:18:48.400 now on the ground

00:18:50.180 in this conflict?

00:18:52.600 Yeah,

00:18:52.740 so first of all,

00:18:53.920 this has been going on

00:18:54.880 since the tail end

00:18:56.500 of the Obama administration.

00:18:58.220 I mean,

00:18:58.400 really,

00:18:58.800 halfway through

00:18:59.460 the second term,

00:19:00.920 February 2014

00:19:02.640 is what I like

00:19:03.920 to remind people

00:19:04.640 that is when

00:19:05.300 the Russians,

00:19:07.180 because they saw

00:19:07.920 a feckless leader

00:19:08.880 in the White House,

00:19:10.140 they went ahead

00:19:11.220 and attacked

00:19:12.440 into the two

00:19:13.180 eastern Donbasses

00:19:14.320 of Ukraine

00:19:14.920 and then,

00:19:15.400 of course,

00:19:15.640 Crimea.

00:19:16.640 And then,

00:19:16.940 of course,

00:19:17.160 when Trump came in,

00:19:17.960 Trump basically,

00:19:19.140 you know,

00:19:19.280 they weren't certain

00:19:19.980 what to think of Trump,

00:19:20.900 so they did nothing

00:19:22.720 and it went to a stalemate then.

00:19:24.600 And,

00:19:24.880 of course,

00:19:25.060 when Biden comes back in,

00:19:26.080 they re-energize

00:19:27.780 their offensive operations

00:19:29.360 to basically hold

00:19:32.260 and then control

00:19:33.640 the ground

00:19:34.100 that they currently

00:19:34.780 are on right now.

00:19:36.440 So,

00:19:37.060 strategically,

00:19:38.360 the way I would

00:19:39.120 describe this

00:19:39.860 is that this is

00:19:40.540 at a strategic stalemate

00:19:42.420 and that you have

00:19:44.940 a losing proposition

00:19:47.340 for Ukraine.

00:19:48.900 Clearly,

00:19:49.420 this war is over

00:19:50.280 for Ukraine.

00:19:51.060 Ukraine does not have

00:19:52.000 the capabilities,

00:19:53.540 they don't have

00:19:53.860 the manpower,

00:19:54.640 they don't have

00:19:54.940 the weapon systems.

00:19:56.480 At best,

00:19:57.300 they might have

00:19:58.100 some small arms

00:20:00.300 that are being fed

00:20:01.020 in there

00:20:01.320 by either European nations,

00:20:03.340 some NATO nations,

00:20:04.300 probably the United States,

00:20:05.640 but anything

00:20:06.080 that's large-scale weaponry

00:20:07.660 gets destroyed

00:20:09.000 almost immediately

00:20:09.760 and the other thing

00:20:11.800 is any sophisticated

00:20:13.720 weaponry

00:20:14.380 that's given

00:20:14.800 to a nation

00:20:15.940 like Ukraine,

00:20:16.940 you've got to take

00:20:17.560 the time to train on it.

00:20:18.740 You can't just,

00:20:19.560 you know,

00:20:20.120 you can't train

00:20:20.800 on a surface-to-air missile

00:20:22.400 in a couple of days.

00:20:24.680 It takes weeks,

00:20:25.620 in some cases,

00:20:26.380 months.

00:20:27.180 So,

00:20:27.780 any of that sophisticated

00:20:28.700 weaponry

00:20:29.260 that did make its way,

00:20:31.180 most of that

00:20:31.640 has been destroyed,

00:20:32.460 if not all of it.

00:20:33.140 So,

00:20:33.580 it's a strategic stalemate

00:20:35.700 because

00:20:36.180 what is happening

00:20:38.440 really on both sides

00:20:40.100 to include Zelensky?

00:20:41.140 I think Zelensky,

00:20:42.400 if you really,

00:20:42.980 if you cornered him

00:20:43.880 and you asked him,

00:20:45.000 would you want to sue

00:20:45.900 for peace in some way,

00:20:47.420 he'd probably say,

00:20:48.460 yeah,

00:20:48.680 because at a certain

00:20:50.040 point in time,

00:20:51.140 he's going to,

00:20:51.740 he will probably

00:20:52.580 meet his demise.

00:20:53.940 I mean,

00:20:54.200 you know,

00:20:54.540 either internally

00:20:55.640 or externally.

00:20:57.820 What we cannot allow,

00:21:00.680 and this goes back

00:21:01.580 to NATO

00:21:02.000 because there's been

00:21:02.400 an awful lot of talk

00:21:03.300 on the NATO side

00:21:04.460 about having Ukraine

00:21:07.100 join NATO

00:21:08.040 to even include

00:21:09.480 the NATO Secretary General

00:21:12.120 has mentioned it.

00:21:14.720 We've had

00:21:15.140 military leaders,

00:21:17.320 general officers in NATO

00:21:18.460 that have talked about

00:21:19.280 the use of nuclear weapons.

00:21:20.680 I mean,

00:21:21.020 we've had our own

00:21:21.780 White House

00:21:22.200 talk about this.

00:21:23.660 We cannot get to that level.

00:21:25.440 We cannot have

00:21:25.960 those kinds of conversations.

00:21:28.220 And so,

00:21:29.020 strategically,

00:21:29.680 it's a stalemate.

00:21:30.720 Tactically,

00:21:31.960 the Russians have,

00:21:34.120 you know,

00:21:34.420 they're sort of

00:21:35.640 on their front foot

00:21:36.580 where the Ukrainians,

00:21:38.220 they're not on their back,

00:21:39.300 their heels right now.

00:21:41.380 The Ukrainians

00:21:42.000 are actually on their knees

00:21:43.040 because they've lost

00:21:44.220 so many

00:21:44.760 of their military-age men

00:21:47.160 during this war

00:21:48.500 that's now been going on

00:21:49.740 for,

00:21:50.860 you know,

00:21:51.200 since the Biden administration

00:21:52.240 came in

00:21:52.680 for the better part

00:21:53.320 of three years

00:21:53.940 and will continue,

00:21:55.960 particularly in these

00:21:56.720 tactical skirmishes.

00:21:57.940 So what I,

00:22:00.200 and before I go into

00:22:01.520 what I think needs to happen,

00:22:03.520 I want to remind the audience

00:22:04.980 that NATO

00:22:05.620 is a defensive

00:22:07.380 military alliance,

00:22:09.480 okay?

00:22:09.700 The North Atlantic Treaty

00:22:11.120 Organization

00:22:12.080 is a defensive alliance.

00:22:14.940 It is an alliance

00:22:15.900 that was designed

00:22:16.680 principally after World War II

00:22:18.520 in order to defend

00:22:20.260 any nation

00:22:21.380 that was part of it

00:22:22.080 from an attack

00:22:23.040 from,

00:22:23.580 you know,

00:22:24.120 from an external foe,

00:22:25.660 meaning in this case,

00:22:26.400 at that time,

00:22:27.300 really the Warsaw Pact

00:22:28.480 led by Russia.

00:22:30.420 So it's a defensive alliance,

00:22:32.560 yet NATO

00:22:33.160 has been acting

00:22:34.300 very offensively

00:22:35.780 in,

00:22:36.680 over the last 25 years.

00:22:38.680 I found it fascinating

00:22:39.940 because I know this

00:22:41.380 because I studied

00:22:42.060 some of this

00:22:42.580 and during the 90s,

00:22:44.620 you know,

00:22:45.220 when Putin

00:22:46.480 talked to

00:22:47.620 Tucker Carlson

00:22:48.880 in his great interview,

00:22:50.640 I thought,

00:22:51.540 Putin said that,

00:22:52.820 you know,

00:22:53.260 if Russia

00:22:54.460 had been asked

00:22:55.040 to join NATO

00:22:55.760 in the mid-90s

00:22:56.780 that maybe

00:22:57.480 they could have

00:22:57.920 joined NATO.

00:22:58.620 I do know

00:22:59.640 for certain

00:23:00.340 because I was part

00:23:01.040 of what's called

00:23:01.520 the Partners for Peace

00:23:02.640 exercise

00:23:03.620 and Partners for Peace

00:23:04.680 operations

00:23:05.240 in the mid-90s

00:23:06.600 where we were

00:23:07.080 doing joint training

00:23:08.560 with Russians

00:23:09.180 at the time

00:23:10.100 where we had

00:23:11.080 U.S. military forces

00:23:12.480 going over to Russia.

00:23:13.700 We had Russians

00:23:14.400 coming over

00:23:14.980 to the United States

00:23:15.900 training with us

00:23:17.080 to try to develop

00:23:18.160 a camaraderie,

00:23:19.100 you know,

00:23:19.380 military to military.

00:23:21.080 I mean,

00:23:21.600 we have been

00:23:22.500 conducting operations

00:23:24.540 in the Middle East

00:23:25.220 with Russians

00:23:25.820 in Syria principally

00:23:26.960 prior to,

00:23:28.720 this was during

00:23:29.320 the tail end

00:23:31.300 of really

00:23:31.600 the Obama administration

00:23:32.620 and then

00:23:33.120 into the Trump

00:23:34.100 administration

00:23:34.520 where we're

00:23:34.940 trying to cooperate

00:23:35.960 with them

00:23:36.380 against these

00:23:36.820 radical Islamists.

00:23:38.400 But yet,

00:23:39.220 now we have

00:23:39.960 NATO acting,

00:23:41.060 I believe,

00:23:42.000 at least

00:23:42.420 politically,

00:23:43.560 offensively,

00:23:44.340 by saying

00:23:44.940 we want to bring

00:23:46.240 Ukraine

00:23:46.700 into

00:23:47.480 the,

00:23:48.480 you know,

00:23:48.900 the NATO

00:23:50.020 charter.

00:23:51.400 that would be

00:23:52.360 like saying

00:23:52.920 to,

00:23:53.340 that would be

00:23:53.600 like China

00:23:54.140 saying

00:23:54.580 we're going

00:23:55.500 to bring

00:23:56.060 Cuba

00:23:57.140 and make Cuba

00:23:58.380 a part of

00:23:59.280 the CCP.

00:23:59.880 We're going

00:24:00.280 to make

00:24:00.520 Mexico

00:24:01.020 part of

00:24:01.840 the CCP

00:24:02.420 umbrella

00:24:02.880 and we're

00:24:03.760 going to

00:24:03.980 have Canada

00:24:04.740 join.

00:24:05.300 Now,

00:24:05.480 in the case

00:24:06.060 of Canada,

00:24:06.600 because of

00:24:06.980 Trudeau being

00:24:07.520 a,

00:24:08.080 you know,

00:24:08.440 I think

00:24:08.760 a hardcore

00:24:09.220 communist,

00:24:09.900 he might

00:24:10.340 actually raise

00:24:11.460 his hand

00:24:11.860 for that.

00:24:12.460 But to

00:24:13.380 stay on

00:24:14.440 Ukraine,

00:24:15.640 we are in

00:24:16.640 a place

00:24:17.340 where there

00:24:18.340 has to be

00:24:19.320 strong leaders

00:24:20.640 who sit

00:24:21.860 down

00:24:22.260 and maybe

00:24:23.460 the Paris

00:24:24.020 piece of

00:24:24.480 cords,

00:24:24.860 although

00:24:24.980 they're

00:24:25.340 having to

00:24:26.380 deal with

00:24:26.740 the situation

00:24:27.460 in the

00:24:27.760 Middle East

00:24:28.120 right now,

00:24:28.540 which is

00:24:28.840 really,

00:24:29.940 you know,

00:24:30.420 it's a

00:24:30.660 disaster

00:24:31.220 waiting to

00:24:31.820 happen if

00:24:32.360 it hasn't

00:24:33.460 already

00:24:33.780 happened.

00:24:34.620 But if

00:24:35.160 we don't

00:24:36.440 let cool

00:24:37.160 heads prevail

00:24:37.960 on the

00:24:38.980 situation

00:24:39.500 in Ukraine,

00:24:40.120 this is

00:24:41.360 the first

00:24:41.780 time really

00:24:43.400 in my

00:24:44.080 adult life

00:24:45.120 because I

00:24:45.660 was alive

00:24:46.580 when the

00:24:47.160 Cuban

00:24:47.920 missile

00:24:48.920 crisis

00:24:49.320 occurred.

00:24:49.840 I was

00:24:50.600 a young

00:24:50.940 kid at

00:24:51.720 the time,

00:24:52.240 but this

00:24:53.160 is the

00:24:53.380 first time

00:24:53.800 in my

00:24:54.140 life,

00:24:55.840 my adult

00:24:56.260 life,

00:24:56.840 where I

00:24:57.180 think that

00:24:57.560 there could

00:24:58.560 be some

00:24:59.480 means or

00:25:00.860 some measures

00:25:01.480 taken where

00:25:02.600 we have a

00:25:03.120 nuclear

00:25:03.480 standoff.

00:25:04.520 And I

00:25:04.700 don't say

00:25:05.020 that lightly

00:25:05.580 at all

00:25:06.360 for a guy

00:25:07.200 that knows

00:25:07.780 what our

00:25:08.460 nuclear system

00:25:09.300 is capable

00:25:10.600 of doing.

00:25:11.360 And frankly,

00:25:11.800 I know what

00:25:12.200 Russia's nuclear

00:25:12.980 system is

00:25:13.500 capable of

00:25:14.040 doing as

00:25:14.400 well.

00:25:14.980 So we

00:25:16.080 have to,

00:25:17.560 everybody's

00:25:18.280 got to take

00:25:18.640 a deep

00:25:19.000 breath.

00:25:19.800 Everybody's

00:25:20.160 got to sit

00:25:20.560 down at

00:25:20.860 a table,

00:25:21.360 and we've

00:25:21.600 got to

00:25:21.860 decide what

00:25:23.100 is it that

00:25:23.500 we want

00:25:24.020 to achieve

00:25:24.980 here.

00:25:25.940 And we've

00:25:26.760 got to

00:25:27.080 allow the

00:25:27.760 people in

00:25:28.360 that part

00:25:29.200 of the

00:25:29.440 world,

00:25:29.780 that means

00:25:30.120 the Russians

00:25:30.660 and the

00:25:31.320 Ukrainians to

00:25:32.100 sit there

00:25:32.460 and talk.

00:25:33.320 Maybe there's

00:25:33.800 some adults

00:25:35.260 in the room,

00:25:35.920 so to speak,

00:25:36.560 like the left

00:25:38.120 likes to say,

00:25:38.800 now that they

00:25:39.260 have adults

00:25:39.740 in the room.

00:25:40.600 Well,

00:25:40.760 when their

00:25:41.640 adults show

00:25:42.340 up,

00:25:42.840 we end up

00:25:43.380 at violent,

00:25:44.940 vicious,

00:25:45.360 savage wars,

00:25:46.580 which is what

00:25:47.020 we're involved

00:25:47.560 in right

00:25:48.020 now.

00:25:48.880 And there's

00:25:49.380 also talk

00:25:49.960 about nuclear

00:25:50.560 weapons,

00:25:51.500 like I've

00:25:51.940 never heard

00:25:52.360 talked about

00:25:53.020 in my

00:25:54.240 career in

00:25:55.820 the military

00:25:56.220 and certainly

00:25:57.960 in the last

00:25:58.520 five or six

00:25:59.480 years.

00:25:59.880 So anyway,

00:26:01.160 strategically,

00:26:01.960 we're at a

00:26:02.320 stalemate.

00:26:02.960 It needs to

00:26:03.400 stay that way.

00:26:04.580 Politically,

00:26:05.120 we need to get

00:26:06.040 to a peace

00:26:07.360 agreement and a

00:26:08.020 peace accord

00:26:08.620 and deal with

00:26:09.940 this issue now,

00:26:10.820 because otherwise,

00:26:12.020 this and what's

00:26:13.380 happening in the

00:26:13.960 Middle East,

00:26:14.440 what's happening

00:26:15.360 in Panama,

00:26:16.220 and what's

00:26:16.540 happening over

00:26:17.100 in potentially

00:26:17.960 in the Pacific,

00:26:19.240 you know,

00:26:19.640 vis-a-vis Taiwan

00:26:20.480 and China,

00:26:21.280 we're going to

00:26:21.980 find ourselves

00:26:22.780 in a much

00:26:23.560 greater level

00:26:24.900 of World War

00:26:25.620 III than we

00:26:26.280 are already

00:26:26.820 in,

00:26:27.180 because I do

00:26:27.620 agree with

00:26:28.200 the person

00:26:29.840 in Yuval Noah

00:26:30.820 Harari.

00:26:31.340 If I agree

00:26:31.640 with him on

00:26:32.060 anything,

00:26:32.440 which he said

00:26:32.980 the other

00:26:33.300 day,

00:26:33.780 we are already

00:26:34.580 experiencing

00:26:35.200 World War III.

00:26:35.980 I agree with

00:26:36.520 him on that.

00:26:37.140 That's probably

00:26:37.620 the only thing

00:26:38.100 I agree with

00:26:38.620 him on.

00:26:39.980 All right.

00:26:40.760 Unfortunately,

00:26:41.200 we are out

00:26:42.280 of time.

00:26:43.040 I want to

00:26:43.560 urge people to

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00:26:48.080 You can go

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00:26:52.500 FlynnMovie.com.

00:26:55.020 There's an

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00:26:56.740 on the 5th of

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00:26:58.580 which I'm very

00:26:59.860 excited,

00:27:00.760 having been

00:27:01.480 invited to

00:27:02.140 attend.

00:27:02.880 Let me thank

00:27:03.460 our guest,

00:27:04.020 General Michael

00:27:04.640 Flynn,

00:27:05.300 for joining us

00:27:05.980 today.

00:27:06.700 General Flynn

00:27:07.140 is going to

00:27:07.600 join me on

00:27:08.160 WABC Radio

00:27:09.660 next Sunday.

00:27:11.400 We're very

00:27:11.720 excited about

00:27:12.400 that.

00:27:13.140 General Flynn,

00:27:13.560 thank you

00:27:14.040 very much

00:27:14.480 for your

00:27:14.740 time today.

00:27:15.680 God bless

00:27:16.340 you.

00:27:17.220 God bless

00:27:17.740 you,

00:27:18.080 Roger.

00:27:18.400 Thank you.

00:27:18.840 Thank you,

00:27:19.220 Troy.

00:27:19.640 We'll talk

00:27:20.100 to you later.

00:27:20.600 See you on

00:27:22.280 the high

00:27:22.640 ground.

00:27:24.700 All right.

00:27:25.300 We're going to

00:27:25.660 go to a quick

00:27:26.400 commercial break,

00:27:27.440 and then I'll be

00:27:28.040 right back to

00:27:28.700 talk politics

00:27:29.620 with Troy Smith.

00:27:37.720 Hi,

00:27:38.360 neighbor.

00:27:38.820 Pat Boone here.

00:27:39.880 Today,

00:27:40.480 I want to help

00:27:41.100 you find some

00:27:41.760 peace of mind

00:27:42.780 concerning your

00:27:44.020 money.

00:27:45.060 Like it or not,

00:27:46.100 we're all living

00:27:46.860 in a financial

00:27:47.600 war zone.

00:27:48.800 That's right.

00:27:49.440 We're watching

00:27:50.160 our hard-earned

00:27:51.140 dollars get

00:27:51.740 crushed by

00:27:52.720 inflation.

00:27:53.520 In fact,

00:27:54.440 recently,

00:27:55.100 inflation reached

00:27:55.860 its highest level

00:27:56.760 in 40 years.

00:27:58.620 And on top of

00:27:59.160 that,

00:27:59.460 cash,

00:28:00.220 which has always

00:28:00.860 represented freedom

00:28:01.820 and privacy,

00:28:02.720 is more and more

00:28:03.740 being replaced

00:28:04.800 by a cashless

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00:29:38.940 Welcome back. If you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone, and I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:29:47.700 We just finished a great interview with General Michael Flynn. I want to urge folks to go see his new biographical picture. It's entitled Flynn.

00:29:59.760 And it's important because the American left has smeared this patriot perhaps worse or as bad as they did, and they have President Donald Trump.

00:30:12.880 And the truth about his great service to the country and the debunking of the claim that he did anything wrong is crucially important.

00:30:23.100 You see, the thing that amazes me about the Democrat media cabal that control all mass communications today outside of a few websites and, of course, to the extent possible on the Internet,

00:30:39.300 is their commitment to recycling lies over and over and over again.

00:30:45.620 It's the big lie technique. They're proud of it. They're really relentless.

00:30:51.180 I can pick out so many examples of it. For example, Roger Stone was the go-between, and he coordinated with Russian intelligence on the release of the WikiLeaks material in order to damage Hillary Clinton.

00:31:08.760 That's a lie. There is no evidence whatsoever that would prove that there are innocuous text messages between me and WikiLeaks.

00:31:20.920 They prove nothing whatsoever, certainly not coordination or the transfer of any data or any collaboration of any kind, but they were conflated into a big deal.

00:31:34.580 Yeah, there are text messages between, pardon me, Twitter, direct messages between me and the persona of Guccifer 2.0.

00:31:45.120 I release them. Read them. They don't prove anything whatsoever.

00:31:50.300 And they took place three months after WikiLeaks had already published all of their material regarding Hillary Clinton or the DNC.

00:31:59.560 But those minor facts are left out.

00:32:02.860 Troy, yesterday, they went back to an interview I gave in 2016 in which I used the word bloodbath.

00:32:09.620 But they failed to mention that I specifically renounce violence and say that I'm speaking of expected civil disobedience if the 2016 election were stolen.

00:32:22.360 So they are inherently dishonest, which is why I urged General Flynn now for three years to memorialize his story in both a film and a book.

00:32:33.920 So that way, in the future, when people accuse him of treason, he can point to the truth for everyone to see.

00:32:41.400 Well, exactly, Roger. And talking to General Flynn, you know, it's just so interesting because here's a guy that was at the highest levels of government.

00:32:48.700 Here's a guy that was at the highest levels of the military.

00:32:51.340 And he hasn't changed. He hasn't changed. His objectives haven't changed.

00:32:58.020 What's changed is his opposition. And all of a sudden, you know, all these people are coming against him.

00:33:04.280 They're throwing everything they have at him. They're throwing everything they have at you.

00:33:07.180 And it's just it's it's incredibly interesting to me to see a guy who is who's involved in such, you know, and I get the same with with you from time to time, Roger.

00:33:17.540 It's like, you know, you're dealing with so much heat. You're dealing with so many people that are trying to come after you.

00:33:23.100 And yet you guys are down to earth. You're focused.

00:33:26.120 And I think you have to be in order to kind of navigate this horrible situation that our country finds ourselves in.

00:33:32.480 And I think it's important for people to know General Flynn hasn't changed.

00:33:36.520 He's still doing the exact same things he was doing when he was targeting ISIS, when he was working for the country.

00:33:41.760 He's working for the country now. The only thing that's changed is the country's working against us, the people.

00:33:46.960 And it's a distinction that you really get in when you're when you're talking to him and you hear him speak about these things.

00:33:53.960 You realize this is a guy that's been doing the same thing his whole career.

00:33:57.280 It's a guy that's been sacrificing his life and his propositions for the good of the country.

00:34:03.860 And he's still doing that to this day. It's very inspirational, Roger.

00:34:07.940 And just to have him on the show, a true a true honor as we get into the politics section here.

00:34:14.200 Yeah, what you say is is absolutely true.

00:34:17.980 Folks may not remember this, but when President-elect Donald Trump went to meet with outgoing President Barack Obama, Obama basically told Trump, look, you can choose anyone for your cabinet or your administration that you want.

00:34:36.840 But the one guy I would stay away from is Mike Flynn.

00:34:40.660 He's bad news.

00:34:42.520 Why would he say that?

00:34:44.020 I can tell you why.

00:34:45.040 It's because when he was at the upper echelon of the intelligence services, serving alongside John Brennan as the CIA director, James Comey as the FBI director, and General James Clapper as the national director of intelligence, Flynn refused to lie.

00:35:07.080 He refused to lie specifically about the danger posed to this nation by radical Islam.

00:35:14.080 And they wanted him to confirm, conform.

00:35:16.820 They wanted him to lie, and he refused to lie, which is why he was targeted.

00:35:22.860 And then, of course, Comey bragged about setting Flynn up, setting two FBI agents to go question him, allegedly about these phone calls that he had made while he was waiting to be sworn in as national security director with the Russian ambassador, Kislak.

00:35:45.280 By the way, by the way, the national security advisor for Barack Obama spoke to the Russian ambassador prior to be sworn in.

00:35:53.260 So such a conversation is neither improper nor it isn't a crime.

00:35:57.540 But then they twisted this false claim that Flynn had assured Kislyak, Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, that once he became president, Trump would remove the sanctions on Russia.

00:36:12.920 But he never said any such thing.

00:36:16.060 It was a lie.

00:36:17.800 The FBI directors, including, ironically, Peter Strzok, who questioned Flynn, came away and reported to their superiors that Flynn did not lie in the interview.

00:36:30.220 They also assured Flynn that he didn't need an attorney present.

00:36:34.400 It's amazing that Comey would later brag in an interview about interviewing people, sending FBI agents to interview people in the Trump administration because the people in the Trump administration were so inexperienced and dumb that they didn't know that they should take those interviews with an attorney present if they took them at all.

00:36:55.180 By the way, it's a crime to lie to an FBI agent, so this gives them another way to manipulate a crime against you.

00:37:05.240 It's amazing just watching the media fall out from this bloodbath hoax that they have perpetrated.

00:37:15.500 It just continues yet another day.

00:37:18.480 It reminds me of all the other hoaxes.

00:37:20.820 Let's start with the most important one, the Russian collusion hoax, what Nancy Pelosi describes as the wrap-up smear.

00:37:30.360 She's proud of this, where you plant a story, then you get it reported.

00:37:35.680 It's a falsehood.

00:37:37.100 You plant a falsehood.

00:37:38.700 You get it reported by a major media outlet.

00:37:41.720 Then, in court or in legislative proceedings, you point to that story and say, you see, it's been reported, therefore it's true.

00:37:51.240 She calls it the wrap-up smear.

00:37:54.060 This is exactly what they did in the case of the Steele dossier.

00:37:58.440 The Steele dossier was fabricated by a company called Fusion GPS.

00:38:04.400 I think they were very clever.

00:38:06.620 I think they sold it multiple times.

00:38:08.920 The first time they sold this fake dossier, which claimed that Donald Trump had cavorted with Russian prostitutes in Moscow when visiting there as a private citizen,

00:38:22.060 and that Trump had observed them urinating on a bed that Barack Obama had once slept in.

00:38:28.900 It was a complete and total fabrication, but it was first, I think, paid for by a man named Paul Singer, who was a major financial supporter of Marco Rubio's campaign.

00:38:40.500 When it failed to get any traction then, I think they recycled it and sold it to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:38:48.040 Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for it but disguised those payments as legal fees.

00:38:53.420 They weren't legal fees.

00:38:54.840 And the FBI actually offered the author of the so-called Steele dossier, whose name, of course, was Steele, a former British intelligence agent, a $1 million bonus if he could prove any of it.

00:39:12.560 But Troy didn't collect the bonus.

00:39:14.060 You know why?

00:39:14.920 Because the whole thing was a lie.

00:39:17.100 When he was the general counsel to the FBI, Andrew Weissman had seen this document.

00:39:23.860 He knew it was a fabrication.

00:39:26.320 But they used it anyway as their rationale for the greatest single dirty trick in American political history.

00:39:35.440 They used this fabricated dossier, along with the false claim that the Russians had hacked the Democratic National Committee, that the DNC was the subject of an online hack, as the two legs of the stool for the entire Russian collusion hoax.

00:39:58.780 Well, the Steele dossier has been—

00:40:00.260 Do you trust the federal government?

00:40:01.240 The Steele dossier has been completely discredited.

00:40:07.660 Strangely enough, John Durham, the special counsel, has never addressed the question of the hacking.

00:40:14.260 But the truth of the matter is the government has no evidence that the DNC was hacked.

00:40:19.700 They charged 17 alleged Russian intelligence agents with the hacking of the DNC, knowing that that case would never go to trial, knowing that there would never be any discovery, knowing that the government would never be pressed to produce their proof.

00:40:36.520 Let's see the proof of it.

00:40:37.960 They don't have any proof.

00:40:39.080 Bill Binney and Ray McGovern, two of the top counterintelligence experts in the CIA, both examined all of the information and make a compelling case that, based on the download times, there was no online hack by the Russians or anyone else.

00:40:58.520 The material, ultimately published by WikiLeaks, was downloaded to some kind of portable drive and taken out the back door of the DNC.

00:41:08.720 We know that because of the download time, speed times of that incursion.

00:41:15.520 Now, my lawyers were specifically denied the opportunity to raise that in my defense in my trial.

00:41:24.740 But when the FBI did truthfully say, admit, they had never inspected the computer servers at the DNC, the government very quickly filed a surreply, it's a very rare thing, saying that they had additional evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC.

00:41:48.560 So it was signed by an attorney named Jonathan Kravitz.

00:41:52.280 Since that is a lie, there is no such evidence.

00:41:56.760 If it is, then let them produce it.

00:41:59.420 Really tragic, Troy, that special counsel John Durham never touched this subject.

00:42:04.780 But here's what we do know.

00:42:06.700 The government relied on a company called CrowdStrike.

00:42:10.600 CrowdStrike made the public claim that their investigation proved that the Russians had conducted an online hack of the DNC.

00:42:19.660 But unbeknownst to me at the time of my trial, because it was still classified, Sean Henry, the man who was the head of CrowdStrikes, who just coincidentally happens to be a former deputy FBI director Robert Mueller, testified under oath that his report contained no proof that the Russians hacked the DNC.

00:42:44.760 So it's a classic example of a smear of a lie that even to this day continues to be recycled again and again and again.

00:42:55.660 Well, exactly, Roger, and they use it to bury people who tell the truth.

00:43:00.380 And I think General Flynn said something very interesting in that interview that, you know, there's a huge problem with people around President Trump.

00:43:07.720 And there was a concerted effort, I think, by the deep state to insert people around him that could control the outcome of his presidency.

00:43:16.500 And ultimately, they wanted people who would undermine the president.

00:43:19.920 And I think, you know, at the top of the list, you know, the biggest problem for the deep state, the people that wanted to infiltrate the Trump campaign, that wanted to make sure that the Trump White House was controllable to a certain extent.

00:43:32.440 Those people, their biggest enemy are people like you, people like General Flynn, people who are dedicated to truth and who have shown time and time again, it doesn't matter what position you offer them.

00:43:42.520 It doesn't matter what kind of, you know, with you and your trial, Roger, where they tried to convince you and get you to lie about President Trump.

00:43:50.680 No matter what they threw at you, you stayed strong and you were proven correct and God looked on you and allowed you to receive a pardon.

00:43:59.500 And, you know, it's an entire situation that I think gets distorted because, as you're saying, in the mainstream media, they've concocted all these narratives.

00:44:09.480 And it's amazing, Roger, how the narratives stack on each other and they stack a lie on a lie on a lie on a lie.

00:44:16.580 And we see this with Ari Melber at MSNBC. I mean, every time he runs a segment on you, Roger, it is a lie built on another lie, which leads to another lie, which leads to another lie.

00:44:28.300 And they get bigger and bigger and bigger and the scope of these lies get bigger.

00:44:32.640 And you almost see the same thing with the bloodbath comment, Roger.

00:44:35.780 As they go on, if you watch the media, they actually become more rabid.

00:44:39.780 And it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he wants to kill the Democrats. I'm hearing that now.

00:44:43.540 Donald Trump wants to kill the Democrats. I mean, it's gotten to a level of insanity that you can't even really describe.

00:44:51.520 I mean, I don't know who out there is believing this. I don't know who out there looks at it and says, yeah, that's truthful.

00:44:57.440 But whoever they are, they are completely misinformed.

00:45:01.080 And you have to believe that that's because the mainstream media works overtime to push these false narratives again and again and again.

00:45:07.820 Yeah, it really it really is extraordinarily pathetic.

00:45:14.500 There is, for example, tonight I'm speaking at Mar-a-Lago at a Catholic event, a Catholics for Catholic event.

00:45:24.440 General Flynn is speaking. Jack Posobiec is speaking.

00:45:28.260 Michael Knowles is speaking, a number of others.

00:45:31.200 We're going to go there. Yes, we're going to talk about our faith.

00:45:34.160 Now I see people online saying, well, but how good a Catholic can Roger Stone be?

00:45:40.020 He's pro-abortion.

00:45:42.040 Now, it is true that more than 30 years ago, I was pro-choice.

00:45:49.160 I now realize what that means.

00:45:51.760 But with the birth of my great grandson five years ago, God touched my heart.

00:45:59.260 I had a complete change of view.

00:46:01.440 I've been strongly pro-life since then.

00:46:05.320 So if you're going to bother to attack me online today because I used to hold a different position on the question of life, don't waste your time.

00:46:16.140 People change.

00:46:18.060 Faith can change your heart.

00:46:20.160 In my case, that has been true.

00:46:23.180 All right, Troy, what else are you seeing here in the political world that we should talk about today?

00:46:28.660 Well, Roger, a very important thing that was breaking news last night that I want to get your opinion on right away.

00:46:35.280 It has been reported that President Trump has ruled out Vivek Ramaswamy as a vice presidential candidate and is considering moving him to a cabinet position.

00:46:47.120 Possibly, I've heard, I've heard Homeland Security, and I want to get your thoughts on that.

00:46:51.880 And I also want to get your thoughts on a report, I believe it's been circulated by Bloomberg, that Trump is considering former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy as his chief of staff.

00:47:01.580 I think a lot of us were kind of disturbed to see that.

00:47:03.800 I'd like to hear your thoughts.

00:47:04.860 Well, first of all, I really like Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:47:08.860 I like the idea of giving him an opportunity to prove himself in a position lower than vice president.

00:47:17.620 I think he ran a brilliant campaign for president.

00:47:21.660 He didn't get many votes, but he did raise many important questions.

00:47:26.500 And he's emerged as a loyal and I think effective surrogate for President Trump.

00:47:32.800 I don't believe that there is a front runner for vice president today.

00:47:39.860 Now, first of all, as Richard Nixon once told me, you can't run for vice president.

00:47:45.480 In fact, it looks very bad and it's counterproductive if you attempt to run for vice president.

00:47:52.260 You can position yourself and hope that lightning strikes.

00:47:56.900 That's exactly what happened in 1952 when Senator Robert Taft, the conservative candidate, was expected to win the nomination.

00:48:07.480 But the party convention nominated Dwight Eisenhower.

00:48:11.380 And in order to unite the party, they needed a vice president who was a hardline anti-communist.

00:48:16.920 And because Richard Nixon had just exposed the Russian Soviet spy Alger Hiss, well, lightning did strike.

00:48:26.380 When we come back, we'll talk about the vice presidential sweepstakes.

00:48:31.420 And we'll also address that report, which may or may not be true, regarding Kevin McCarthy.

00:48:37.780 If you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone.

00:48:40.320 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, and we're going to take a quick commercial break, and then we'll be right back.

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00:49:53.920 Sound's rolling.

00:49:54.940 All three cameras.

00:49:55.900 We're good.

00:49:56.600 And you're speaking.

00:49:59.240 Is there any regrets that you have in life?

00:50:02.000 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of, you know, I got a lot of regrets.

00:50:07.120 But when I look back on my life, and I understand the lives that were lost, I mean, I'm sitting here with them.

00:50:17.960 And I can tell my story.

00:50:20.440 Former Hatchell Security Advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flannock, pleading guilty today for lying to the FBI.

00:50:25.820 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.

00:50:28.000 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.

00:50:33.720 He's a brilliant military career serving 33 years.

00:50:37.380 Why was he being so elusive?

00:50:38.340 Mike Flannk pulled the truth and faced life in prison.

00:50:41.160 Troy, I don't know about you, but I can't wait to see this Flynn documentary.

00:50:59.660 I'm really honored to be invited to the premiere, which is coming up on April 5th.

00:51:05.700 It's going to be amazing.

00:51:07.080 So, you had posed two questions.

00:51:09.960 We've got about eight minutes here left in the show.

00:51:13.520 Look, I don't think President Trump is in any hurry to make this decision.

00:51:18.920 He has the luxury of time.

00:51:20.780 He does not have to name a running mate until July, when the Republicans convene for their convention.

00:51:28.320 I get the clear impression from him that he hasn't made a decision yet.

00:51:33.960 He's looking at a broad range of potential candidates, I think far broader than many of those names that have been reported in the public.

00:51:43.440 The only person who knows is him, and therefore, no leak should necessarily be considered absolutely true.

00:51:53.440 Let's take this Bloomberg report that Kevin McCarthy is under consideration to be chief of staff.

00:51:59.980 I don't know that to be true.

00:52:03.060 I don't see a quote from Donald Trump saying that.

00:52:07.520 It's attributed to an unidentified source.

00:52:10.840 And I think it is probably a source whose goal is to plant discord among Trump supporters because, well, former Speaker McCarthy is not well thought of by a number of hard-line Trump supporters.

00:52:28.960 So this looks to me, looks to me, looks to me like disinformation.

00:52:34.520 I didn't have time before the show to reach either President Trump or Jason Miller, his spokesman, to get the absolute download on this.

00:52:45.400 But my guess is that it is most likely untrue.

00:52:50.700 By tomorrow's show, we'll be able to tell you whether it's true or not.

00:52:57.960 So we've got, let's see, a few more minutes here.

00:53:02.140 What else is on your plate today?

00:53:05.920 Well, Roger, Slingshot.news is growing fast.

00:53:09.680 I want to thank everybody out there for going to the site and checking out our articles.

00:53:13.580 We had a very long piece on RFK Jr. that I think everybody needs to check out that we published yesterday.

00:53:19.480 We also published about President Obama visiting 10 Downing Street in the U.K.

00:53:25.420 Roger, this got a lot of attention everywhere, whether it was in our syndicates or, you know, on Twitter and things like that.

00:53:33.160 You know, people are really asking themselves, why is President Obama meeting with foreign entities?

00:53:39.200 Why is he?

00:53:39.780 And the U.S. ambassador to the U.K. was there, Roger.

00:53:43.060 I mean, he was, she was actually there with President Obama.

00:53:45.880 And I think it's leading people to ask the question, who's really in charge here?

00:53:49.360 Why is President Obama doing diplomatic meetings while Biden kind of stammers around the White House?

00:53:55.020 I mean, we saw another instance yesterday of him kind of walking around, forgetting who he was.

00:53:59.660 He called Kamala Harris, this woman to my left.

00:54:02.620 You know, he's really struggling.

00:54:04.260 Yet Obama is kind of operating, showing up at 10 Downing Street with no announcement whatsoever.

00:54:09.460 And the press doesn't really seem to ask questions about it.

00:54:12.060 But it's a pretty sad situation.

00:54:15.380 I think Obama really might be the one running and pulling the strings here in this Biden thing.

00:54:20.580 As he said, Roger, if he could just sit in his basement with his sweatpants on and kind of pull the strings of another person, he would love to do that.

00:54:27.660 I think that's exactly the situation here in the Biden White House.

00:54:31.460 Yeah, look, I've seen people online speculate that Obama's meeting with the British prime minister somehow is a violation of the Logan Act.

00:54:43.780 You would have to know what the content of their conversation was to determine whether that was true.

00:54:51.760 What is odd is that the current sitting U.S. ambassador to Britain was in the meeting.

00:54:59.500 That's a bit unusual.

00:55:01.140 Now, look, Hungarian President Viktor Orban recently visited former President Donald Trump.

00:55:08.920 That doesn't mean that there was a violation of the Logan Act.

00:55:13.920 The two men are friends.

00:55:16.280 By the way, I saw Chris Hayes refer to Viktor Orban.

00:55:20.920 Pardon me, it wasn't Chris Hayes.

00:55:22.040 It was Congressman Jamie Raskin from Maryland referring to Hungarian President Viktor Orban as an authoritarian, as a dictator.

00:55:33.300 No, actually, Viktor Orban is democratically elected.

00:55:37.260 And I bet the elections in Hungary are cleaner than the elections in Maryland, particularly in your district, Jamie.

00:55:43.680 So, again, an outrageous smear of a man who has not only been a bulk work against communism in his country, who has pushed back the globalists.

00:55:58.860 Actually, I don't think that I don't think George Soros can actually visit Hungary because I think there's a warrant out for his arrest based on his activities in that country where he sought to destabilize the government.

00:56:11.940 I think that's called terrorism, actually.

00:56:14.660 So I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I will say the meeting between former President Obama and the British prime minister at 10 Downing Street is odd and curious at a minimum.

00:56:30.780 And the fact that the ambassador was there seems to connote that it may have had some formal purpose.

00:56:37.940 By the way, if President Biden asked the former president to undertake a diplomatic mission and to go see a president, he doesn't have to make that public and there would be nothing inappropriate about that.

00:56:53.580 Bill Clinton at various times asked President Nixon to give messages to foreign leaders during his formal travels.

00:57:04.020 So we should not jump to conclusions that Barack Obama is still the most influential person within this administration, if not within the country at this juncture, is still beyond question.

00:57:21.500 All right.

00:57:22.240 We're going to move towards the exits here.

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00:58:05.000 So on behalf of my co-host, Troy Smith, from Slingshot.news, and from the Stone family, I thank you for joining us today on the Stone Zone.

00:58:16.360 God bless you, and Godspeed.

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