The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - General Michael Flynn ｜ 04-22-25

00:00:00.380 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:07.700 And we're back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:10.100 Joining me now, America's General, General Michael Flynn,

00:00:14.160 who served this country for more than 33 years in the U.S. military,

00:00:20.880 a career which culminated as Director of Defense Intelligence Agency,

00:00:25.820 the nation's highest serving military intelligence officer,

00:00:29.140 and then went on to serve as President Donald Trump's national security advisor.

00:00:35.700 General Flynn was, of course, viciously smeared and baselessly attacked in the Russian collusion oath.

00:00:41.740 But through the grace of God, he not only survived, but he has been completely and totally exonerated.

00:00:48.220 If you have not seen the documentary Flynn, I strongly recommend it to you.

00:00:54.220 You can see it at Amazon Prime or Apple TV.

00:00:57.180 It is the shocking truth about the effort to destroy this great American patriot.

00:01:04.640 Let me say on a personal level that I have met many generals, presidents, senators, governors, and others.

00:01:13.160 But Mike Flynn may be one of the finest patriots, one of the finest Christian gentlemen,

00:01:17.740 and one of the most loyal friends a man can have.

00:01:22.060 General Flynn, welcome in to the Stone Zone.

00:01:25.460 Roger, thank you very much.

00:01:26.820 What a great honor it is to be here this evening.

00:01:30.820 I mean, what a time we live in, isn't it?

00:01:33.300 I mean, it's just an amazing historical experience that we're all going through right now.

00:01:39.240 I mean, wow.

00:01:40.860 I mean, did you ever think that your life, in your lifetime, with all the things that you've done

00:01:45.300 and all the things that you've been challenged by and with, that we'd ever be living through a time like this?

00:01:51.120 No, and the good news is the globalists are on the run.

00:01:55.060 The forces of freedom are on the ascendancy.

00:01:58.100 And you have been a key leader in this sea change in America.

00:02:04.360 Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is currently being viciously smeared by fake news NPR

00:02:11.140 with the false claim that he shared classified information.

00:02:15.100 This kind of reminds me of the false reports they used on you to try to take you out of the Trump administration in 2017.

00:02:23.260 General Flynn, what is your reaction?

00:02:24.920 Yeah, I think that what's happening is that they're desperate, and they are really on their heels

00:02:32.420 because Trump has made so many strategically smart moves.

00:02:37.860 And actually, a guy like Pete Hegseth has brought so much energy back into the Department of Defense

00:02:42.980 that was so necessary, not just in terms of our warfighting prowess,

00:02:48.440 but also just the idea of, you know, everybody kind of, you know, get in there and mix it up

00:02:54.680 and the type of leader that we need right now.

00:02:58.000 And I think what's happened is that the, you know, the left and their minions in the media

00:03:03.940 have really just, they're desperate.

00:03:06.500 They're trying anything to smear.

00:03:09.440 You know, they typically will label, you know, all these kinds of things.

00:03:12.820 And when they do that, what that is very telling of is they're, you know, what they're showing,

00:03:20.940 they're showing their rear ends in a lot of ways by basically attacking and lying

00:03:28.900 and deceiving the American people to distract from what is otherwise a great America First agenda

00:03:34.900 that both Pete Hegseth is carrying out on behalf of the President of the United States as well as Trump.

00:03:39.900 And they're really trying to just distract people.

00:03:43.060 We will be right back with more of General Michael Flynn on the other side.

00:03:46.620 So don't go away.

00:03:49.140 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:03:56.960 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:04:04.180 And we're back in the Stone Zone.

00:04:06.460 We're talking to General Michael Flynn, America's general.

00:04:10.660 General Flynn, we know now definitively that the Russian collusion hoax

00:04:15.500 and the plot to destroy President Donald Trump and his presidency,

00:04:19.980 to destroy you, to destroy me, to destroy Paul Manafort, 0.65

00:04:24.860 was born in the Oval Office that President Barack Obama was directly involved.

00:04:31.060 Vice President Joe Biden helpfully suggested that you be falsely charged under the Logan Act.

00:04:38.120 National Security Advisor Susan Rice, FBI Director James Comey,

00:04:43.360 and CIA Director John Brennan were all in on this plot.

00:04:48.580 It was the greatest single abuse of power,

00:04:51.740 the greatest dirty trick in American history,

00:04:54.380 in which the full authority of the U.S. government

00:04:57.100 and the extraordinary capabilities of our intelligence agencies

00:05:00.620 were utilized using two completely false assertions

00:05:05.080 that the Steele dossier compromised Donald Trump, it was a fraud,

00:05:10.080 or that the Russians conducted an online hack of the Democrat National Committee,

00:05:16.400 both falsehoods.

00:05:18.000 My question to you is, will anybody be held accountable?

00:05:22.440 Will anybody actually be punished for the greatest dirty trick in American political history?

00:05:29.960 Yeah, and I think that's a $64,000 question, right?

00:05:33.920 I mean, one of the big things going on across America right now,

00:05:39.100 because of the release of the full, unredacted files on Russiagate,

00:05:45.620 and I know a number of people that are digging through these,

00:05:49.960 as well as tying back into what the Durham report came out with.

00:05:54.780 So there's a lot of data that is being, and dots being connected.

00:05:59.580 So, you know, the answer to the question is, you know,

00:06:02.580 will somebody be, will anybody be held accountable?

00:06:05.320 They have to be held accountable, Roger.

00:06:07.980 This is beyond a dirty trick.

00:06:09.720 It was a conspiracy to undermine a duly elected president,

00:06:12.760 and to do so they went after, you know, his sort of inner circle

00:06:16.320 and, you know, and his closest friends and advisors

00:06:19.600 and tried to do anything that they could to destroy a president,

00:06:24.380 not to just destroy Donald J. Trump,

00:06:26.880 but to destroy the sitting president of the United States of America.

00:06:30.900 And that is, you know, that's just an incredible criminal act from my perspective.

00:06:37.260 And so I know now that with the release of the files,

00:06:42.400 with the tying back into of what the Durham report came out with,

00:06:47.500 I do think now that the Durham report came out, you know, a while back,

00:06:52.040 and with the release of these files, you know,

00:06:54.060 I spent the better part of an hour and a half, probably two hours today,

00:06:58.420 with a couple of researchers who are going through this stuff again.

00:07:02.920 And what they're learning, what they're discovering is how far back this thing went.

00:07:08.040 And the, you know, the Democrat Party,

00:07:10.920 knowing that Hillary Clinton was going to be the heir apparent,

00:07:13.740 and, of course, Donald J. Trump wins the primaries,

00:07:16.520 gets in, you know, he gets through a great convention in the summer of 2016,

00:07:20.680 and then all of a sudden you roll into, you know, now President-elect Trump,

00:07:25.820 and as you just stated, Barack Obama on the 5th of January 2017 has that cohort of really thugs around him,

00:07:34.620 and, you know, Jim Clapper, Brennan Comey, Susan Rice, Sally Yates was another one in that room,

00:07:40.300 you know, and they decided to basically continue on to try to take down President Trump.

00:07:47.520 I mean, that is just unreal when you think about the type of government that we've always had,

00:07:52.980 the freedoms that we've had, that, you know, you know, you've been in politics,

00:07:56.000 you know, your whole adult life, Roger.

00:07:57.980 I mean, it's always been about debating each other,

00:08:00.540 and whether one, you know, side of the aisle, you know, likes big government,

00:08:05.060 the other side likes small government, whatever those issues are,

00:08:08.300 but we never came to this level until Barack Obama arrived on the scene.

00:08:13.580 Now, I don't know whether or not they're going to go after a former President of the United States.

00:08:18.560 They tried to do it with Donald Trump.

00:08:20.320 The left certainly did.

00:08:21.340 And so I do think that there's something to be, you know, there's a precedent setting there.

00:08:27.260 I mean, you certainly lived through and saw and witnessed to the Watergate conspiracy, right?

00:08:34.360 I mean, this makes Watergate look like child's play.

00:08:38.120 So the answer is that the American people are expecting, they are expecting accountability.

00:08:44.780 And I can tell you, Roger, I am in touch with a lot of people on a daily basis.

00:08:48.760 I have been all over this country in the last, you know, not only in the last few years with you,

00:08:54.620 in many cases, but within the last few months.

00:08:57.880 And I can tell you, people are expecting to see somebody held accountable.

00:09:02.240 And it goes back to Russiagate.

00:09:04.320 It goes back to all the egregious activities that were basically, you know,

00:09:09.720 conspired by these, you know, groups like what we've mentioned and others.

00:09:14.540 You know, McCabe is another one that needs to be brought in there.

00:09:18.260 These people must be held accountable.

00:09:20.140 I hope that Pam Bondi, you know, working with people like Ed Martin, people like Cash Patel,

00:09:27.420 people like Dan Bongino and others in the administration actually, you know, create some,

00:09:33.500 maybe it's a sequestered grand jury and they start to relook a lot of this stuff.

00:09:38.900 Because if we don't hold these people accountable, if we don't hold them accountable, they will do it again, Roger.

00:09:45.680 And we all know that.

00:09:46.780 We cannot have that happen in our country again, ever.

00:09:50.380 This can never, never happen again the way this happened.

00:09:54.320 And people are going to have to be held accountable.

00:09:57.120 Yeah, I'm in agreement.

00:09:59.220 I think, frankly, that John Durham took five long years basically to tell us what many good, solid, investigative journalists like Lee Smith had already determined.

00:10:11.760 But he took five years to make sure the statute of limitations had run out.

00:10:15.680 And then he indicts the guy at the very, very, very bottom of the totem pole, a guy named Sussman, a lawyer who was involved in promulgating the Steele dossier.

00:10:27.380 This is like indicting the guy who was driving the getaway car in a bankruptcy robbery for double parking while you let the bank robbers get away.

00:10:37.480 But here's the problem for them.

00:10:39.700 There is no statute of limitations on the crime of treason.

00:10:43.920 At a minimum, John Brennan, who I think is really the chief perp here in this operation, is guilty of treason.

00:10:53.720 And frankly, I think he should be charged and he should stay in trial.

00:10:57.560 Let me move into this story because it's one that I think you sent me and I found fascinating.

00:11:04.240 A top U.S. neuroscientist and military advisor, Mike Beck, has confirmed reports that are credible that say directed energy weapon attacks have happened on U.S. soil and have targeted U.S. personnel abroad.

00:11:21.660 What can you tell us about these so-called microwave weapons?

00:11:26.220 And do you believe that they haven't been used in this nation?

00:11:31.640 Yeah, so it's a great investigative report done by Catherine Herridge, the indomitable Catherine Herridge.

00:11:39.020 And she's done a really superb job of digging in and gathering the right facts.

00:11:43.720 Now, directed energy weapons, I can tell you that off of surface ships, right, naval ships, other surface ships that are used at sea to deter, you know, like piracy.

00:12:00.340 You know, we still have piracy that occurs off of different coastlines.

00:12:04.180 Those types of weapons are used to deter those types of attacks against merchant vessels.

00:12:11.080 And, you know, we know this.

00:12:13.000 In fact, we saw a lot of this type of use out in off of Somalia during the days when the piracy activities were upwards of, you know, they had seized almost, I think, 50 or 60 different merchant vessels.

00:12:27.460 So the merchant marines started to use these directed energy type weapons off of those ships.

00:12:33.320 Now, and this is back in like 2007, 2008 time frame, so quite a while ago.

00:12:39.700 So now what we're talking about is we're talking about directed energy weapons being used from facilities, buildings and such.

00:12:47.240 And like, you know, the most famous case is the one down in Cuba where a group of diplomats were, you know, felt affected.

00:12:55.620 They were basically, you know, they were given like, you know, where they felt like they had gotten ill.

00:13:03.520 And what we're learning is we're learning these directed energy weapons, which are very precise, laser, almost laser-like focus against the targeted population or the targeted array of people that they want to go after.

00:13:17.520 And in this case, you know, what it's showing is it's showing a type of weapon system that, you know, nobody should be surprised that these things exist.

00:13:26.840 But it is in the past, I think, people thought about these types of things, you know, only being seen in science fiction movies, when in fact these are very real.

00:13:36.640 And they've actually been around for quite a while.

00:13:39.080 They have become far more sophisticated because of the ability to be able to move essentially electrons like you would shoot a bullet out of a rifle.

00:13:49.220 You're firing electrons in a very intense and very, very directed way, like the acronym stands for, directed energy weapon, you know, almost right directly at an individual.

00:14:05.740 And I think what, from Catherine's great reporting, I think what we're going to find out is that this has been going on for a lot longer.

00:14:13.780 And we're seeing it happening, you know, in and around a lot of embassies around the world, a lot of U.S. embassies around the world.

00:14:21.460 I believe this is something that the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy are going to have to come to grips with, and they can't hide this anymore.

00:14:32.840 What we're going to have to do is to really highlight this to, you know, the right people.

00:14:40.060 We still have to protect the capabilities that we have, but I do believe that the American people are going to be demanding more answers on this, especially because of this report that just came out.

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00:15:36.260 The Fox commentator, Mark Levin, who also has a show on this very network, writes,

00:15:46.380 We are looking terrorists in the eye who have threatened tens of millions of us with death as they are developing nuclear weapons and are within weeks of succeeding.

00:15:57.020 Is there any generation of Americans before us that would not have dealt a deadly blow to such an enemy before they could destroy us?

00:16:06.100 Will we be the first?

00:16:07.240 First, it's not as if this is the imagination of war mongers run amok.

00:16:12.020 How insane are those who demand that we essentially ignore this threat or appease it in some fashion?

00:16:19.340 Clearly, Mark Levin, who I like, is advocating strikes on Iran.

00:16:25.200 I personally think that that would be an egregious mistake.

00:16:29.020 How do you feel about a preemptive strike on Iran?

00:16:32.200 Yeah, I think what we should be doing, and we have a great commander down there at U.S. Central Command who is responsible for the area of responsibility out there from a military perspective, you know, from a uniform military perspective.

00:16:46.820 I think Pete Hegg, Seth, and the team that Donald J. Trump has in the White House is a smart group of people.

00:16:56.480 So how do I feel about it?

00:16:58.020 I do not think that the United States of America should be engaging in any kind of direct military actions against Iran right now.

00:17:05.740 What I do believe is we should have sufficient military capabilities in the theater, in the region there, whether it's from Diego Garcia or parts of the Middle East.

00:17:16.960 I do believe that the Israelis, as a conduit, if you will, you know, they're already – you have to believe that they're already contemplating some of these actions. 0.72

00:17:31.420 And what they should do or what they should feel is they should feel very much supported by the United States of America for the types of tools, capabilities, weapon systems that they will need if, in fact, they decide to do that.

00:17:46.500 Now, I will tell you that over 10 years ago, Roger, over 10 years ago, and it was Barack Obama that said, you know, and I think John Kerry as well when he was Secretary of State, where they said, well, you know, Iran's not going to have a – they won't have a nuclear weapon for another 10 years.

00:18:03.080 Well, here we are.

00:18:03.840 We're in more than 10 years.

00:18:05.220 The ability to enrich uranium up to a certain percentage threshold, which they've already done.

00:18:10.800 So we can't kid ourselves any longer and think that, you know, the alliance of Iran, which is allied with China, Pakistan, Russia, North Korea, those previous four nations that I just mentioned, all have nuclear capabilities, and then sit and believe that Iran does not have a nuclear capability.

00:18:32.200 One of the things that Iran has is a very sophisticated missile system capability, very sophisticated.

00:18:38.840 You know, and then all you have to do is build the uranium up enough for the warhead and then match a warhead to a – basically, you know, a rocket, right?

00:18:49.400 And for them to do that, you know, is not something that – this is not a no-brainer for them.

00:18:54.480 I mean, there is a no-brainer for them because they've been doing the missile technology for decades.

00:18:58.840 So I think what we're going to see is we're going to see a buildup of U.S. military forces in support of a potential deterrence effect, meaning to try to stop Iran from doing what they're doing while President Trump, through his emissary Witkoff, is doing some negotiations, all while Israel is preparing to take some type of action.

00:19:23.620 And now it will be on their time, on their schedule, so there's an element of surprise there.

00:19:28.960 And I will tell you that if the Israelis decide to attack Tehran or decide to attack other targets in Iran, it is going to be unlike any other attack we've seen by the Israelis, you know, in Iran or like we've seen in the past where they attacked places in Syria and places in Iraq.

00:19:52.620 So I don't think we should be involved in this other than the provision of support and capabilities because, you know, Israel is a great ally of ours.

00:20:03.500 Iran is one of those places where I would prefer – I would prefer to, you know, to honestly, to foment some type of unrest. 0.75

00:20:11.580 And I do think that the Iranians right now are on their heels. 1.00

00:20:16.180 I really believe they're on their heels because their surrogates in the Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis have been devastated.

00:20:23.040 You know, most recently the Houthis have been devastated by our own Department of Defense.

00:20:28.560 So the Iranians are clearly on their backsides, and, you know, what we don't want to do is put them in a position where they, you know, have to spring out and start using some of their missile capabilities and potential nuclear capabilities in the region. 0.95

00:20:44.460 So I do think that we're on a real edge here, and I do know right now that our capabilities in the region are at a level that we have not seen probably in the last – certainly in the last five years, maybe ten years,

00:20:57.620 especially some of our larger air and naval force capabilities that are out there.

00:21:04.260 So very tense time.

00:21:06.420 I do not believe – and I don't think Trump wants to be involved in any kind of war there.

00:21:11.300 I think he would definitely like to settle this thing diplomatically, and we should be able to do it.

00:21:16.440 But I do think that at some point in time, the only way for Iran, Tehran, to survive with the – you know, in the sort of the global nation of nations is to have some type of regime change.

00:21:29.820 You know, they've been living under a dictatorship for far too long.

00:21:34.080 Up next is Keeping the Live and Alive with Debbie Nigro, sponsored by Native Path Collagen. 0.61

00:21:41.140 But before that, we'll be back with General Michael Flynn.

00:21:44.840 So whatever you do, don't touch that dial.

00:21:48.260 The Stone Zone on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

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00:22:00.480 And we're back with General Michael Flynn.

00:22:03.920 We've got about three minutes.

00:22:05.280 There's never enough time when I interview General Flynn.

00:22:08.300 And General Flynn, you are a student of history, a geopolitical thinker.

00:22:13.300 What moment in our nation's history most accurately mirrors this very moment in time?

00:22:21.360 Wow.

00:22:22.360 You know, I'll tell you, I've thought a lot about that.

00:22:25.880 You know, we are – it's a different physical environment.

00:22:30.060 But we are in one of those periods where, similar to the beginning of the Civil War, the U.S. Civil War, where we were in a physical war between a very divided nation.

00:22:42.620 And we are right now in a cognitive war as much as a spiritual war with a very divided nation.

00:22:50.440 And I think that the – you know, at that time, at the beginning of the Civil War, you know, the numbers – you know, when you start to do comparative figure in and data analytics, you know, the North clearly had a larger footprint.

00:23:05.840 And they were able to, of course, dominate the war at the end of the day.

00:23:09.700 We are in a place now where I think that there is a larger percentage of people, more than we know, that are actually very patriotic people, love the country, and don't like what they see coming from this very progressive, you know, communist socialist left of our – that is part of our fabric of our country.

00:23:27.460 And so what I want and what I believe is that we will dominate this because people's patriotism, people's desire for freedom will overcome this inertia that does come out of a couple of segments of society, mainly some of our – you know, clearly the media, you know, some of the political institution on the left, and some other institutions like academia, as an example.

00:23:52.200 So I believe if we were going to do some type of comparative thing, you know, to me, the Civil War was a far more physical one.

00:24:01.100 This one is more cognitive, intellectual, mental, emotional, and certainly spiritual.

00:24:07.160 And I – you know, to finish this line of thinking, I do believe that we are going to have to return our country to a much, much stronger set of Judeo-Christian principles and values, Roger, and we must be fearless about those values.

00:24:22.200 I completely agree.

00:24:23.700 I think it was Lincoln said, it's not a question whether God is on our side, but whether we are on God's side.

00:24:30.380 I want to thank my special guest, General Michael Flynn, and thank you for tuning in to The Stone Zone.

00:24:36.100 Until next time, God bless you, and Godspeed.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - April 23, 2025

General Michael Flynn ｜ 04-22-25

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