On today's show, Stone and Stone's co-host Troy Smith discuss the devastating blowout loss for Dem candidate Jamal Bowman in his primary campaign against Republican challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in New York City. They also talk about AOC's antics at the Bernie Sanders campaign rally in NYC, and how she should have handled the situation. Stone and Smith also discuss why AOC should have been booed off the stage at the Sanders rally, and why she should be fired if she shows up to the one and only Bernie Sanders' campaign rally with AOC. The Stone Zone is brought to you by Roger Stone and the Daily Caller. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at thousands of public events, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Troy Smith, filling in for Roger Stone! Join us as we discuss: 1. The loss for Jamal Bowman 2. Bernie Sanders 3. AOC 4. The New York rally in the Bronx 5. Bernie and AOC s antics in NYC 6. Bernie s New York 7. Bernie's New York Rally 8. The Democratic Party 9. Are you ready to take the country back? 10. 11. What's the country ready to fight for people? 12. Can you be ready to win the country? 13. Is AOC ready to be a part of the team? 14. 15. Is the party of the squad? 16. Can we win the fight? 17. What are you ready for people out of the fight for the country ? And so on and so on...and so much more! What do you think of AOC and the Democratic Party? And do you agree with me? and are you're ready to join me in The Stonezone? The answer to that question? Let's go back to the Stone Zone? Join me, Troy and Mark Vazquez? . -The Stone Zone, the host of The StoneZONE? - Roger Stone and The Daily Caller?
00:02:23.580Well, I think the election last night is yet more evidence that everyday hardworking Americans are tired of the liberal progressive policies of the squad,
00:02:35.660and that their beliefs and ideals don't match theirs, and that they are in the fringe minority.
00:02:41.400And so, you know, in the Jamal Bowman campaign headquarters last night, there was a five-alarm fire,
00:02:46.620and I believe that that fire is still raging because of the shock.
00:02:51.940And just a perfect example is the video of that campaign rally with Bernie Sanders and AOC,
00:02:58.000and she's jumping up and down and yelling and screaming on the stage like a madwoman introduces him
00:03:05.740and then literally like nearly jumps into his arms, I think was, you know, turned a lot of people off,
00:12:19.960And I cannot wait, Troy, to see the audiences during her book tour when the rooms are going to be half empty.
00:12:27.480Well, and we saw Jen Psaki launch a huge book tour just a few months ago, Mark.
00:12:33.500And she sold just 22,000 copies of that book.
00:12:37.020And that was despite being on The View and Colbert's show and End and End and End and every kind of liberal institution, a television show, you'll find out there that she did that show.
00:13:22.280Yeah, of course, because at the Tony Awards and at the Oscars and these other award shows, what you have are a bunch of wealthy elites that hate the working class and they hate Donald Trump and they hate the people who voted for him.
00:13:35.080And any time you see anybody, Mark, enter that room that comes from the working class,
00:13:40.560they are either completely rejected or they are beaten into submission until they eventually go along with the Hollywood elites, with the culture of elitism and looking down on what America is.
00:13:54.820You know, Hillary Clinton specifically, when she lost in 2016, Mark, she said that it was because of the machines.
00:14:02.840She actually filed petitions in several states to get recounts based on the idea that the machines, the election machines, were fraudulent.
00:14:09.920And yet, we see on MSNBC, she's not attacked for that.
00:14:14.860We see in the mainstream media, they never called Hillary Clinton an election denier.
00:14:20.820But yet, people like us, who ask the questions, who don't come from the elitist culture that Hillary Clinton and others survive in, we are attacked, maligned by the mainstream media.
00:14:34.100Now, one of the things that has been a center of media controversy for many years now is President Barack Obama's birth certificate.
00:14:43.160And there's still a lot of questions, Mark, as to what's happening with the birth certificate.
00:14:48.440And it's my understanding that you're actually in Hawaii right now looking for this birth certificate on the scene.
00:15:12.480I'm looking on every golf course and beach that I possibly can to try and identify Obama's birth certificate.
00:15:21.640You know, I've been watching on the news what's happening in Kenya and Obama's half-sister, who was giving an interview in television.
00:15:31.060And so, you know, I think we're going to put a team out there in Kenya so that we can start connecting more dots and getting ready for the, you know, November election to break some news.
00:15:40.840But Hawaii is beautiful, and I'm happy to be here for the week relaxing and joining you on the show.
00:15:47.940But also, there's got to be work done.
00:15:50.000And that's to find Obama's birth certificate.
00:15:54.680And it really is funny because the media just loses their minds.
00:15:57.780I can actually see Media Matters clipping this right now and saying, oh, they're talking about the birther conspiracy.
00:16:03.560We're joking, ladies and gentlemen, of course.
00:16:06.460And the point is that as far as the birth certificate is concerned, there are legitimate questions about it.
00:16:13.120And if it is true, if it is true that Barack Obama is not a citizen of the United States, it's one of the great scandals of our time.
00:16:20.700And, you know, it leads me back to 2016, Mark, and I wanted to ask you about this just in the context.
00:16:25.980There was a lot of controversy surrounding Ted Cruz and whether he was actually born in the United States or whether he was born outside of the United States.
00:16:34.600And while a lot of people dismiss that, oh, this is a birther claim all over again,
00:16:39.060I think the point that was being made by Trump's officials and others at the time was that any question that revolves around a Republican, you know, especially one of citizenship, is going to be challenged by the Democrats.
00:16:53.660Republicans have no room for error whatsoever.
00:16:57.040You have to follow everything to the letter of the law.
00:16:59.140And if there's even a question, if a Republican is a citizen or was a natural citizen, was born in this country or not, that becomes the presidential nominee,
00:17:08.640you can best believe the Democrats are going to attack that full throttle.
00:17:12.780So the birth certificate, while the media views it as this racist issue, oh, it's a birther conspiracy.
00:17:18.180No, I think it's more of a question of, you know, the double standard.
00:17:23.380The liberal Democrat Obama types don't have to answer for anything.
00:17:27.820And even when there are legitimate questions, there's no answers ever.
00:17:31.880And people just, you know, if you ask the questions, you get attacked.
00:18:07.500I was just actually sharing with someone yesterday, Troy, that Barack Obama just walked through into the White House with virtually no opposition.
00:18:17.440The press, he had a honeymoon from the press, his entire presidential campaign during his entire presidency.
00:18:26.520I mean, this is a guy who was never challenged whatsoever.
00:18:29.640I've never seen someone have such an easy time walking into the White House, a battle that is usually tough and brutal, and you walk away bruised and bloodied.
00:18:42.560And this double standard couldn't be clearer the way the media has treated him and Michelle compared to First Lady Melania Trump, who is absolutely brilliant and beautiful and so fashion forward.
00:18:58.860Not a single, she was not on a single cover of a magazine.
00:19:04.900In fact, they just wanted to criticize her.
00:19:07.040Yet Obama, Michelle Obama could, you know, wear curtains from the White House and they'd be saying how fashion forward she is.
00:19:13.960And she'd be on the cover of every fashion magazine in the world.
00:19:18.860So it really is a double standard, and it's really sad.
00:19:22.560And so, you know, I can't wait so that, you know, we can make the Obama, Trump's second term, make the Obamas irrelevant as well, just like the Clintons.
00:19:32.420Well, one of the things that I think President Trump, if elected, should do immediately, Mark, is do everything within his power to stop the $400 million waste of money, which is the Obama presidential center that's being built in Chicago.
00:19:45.100And you being, you know, the Illinois Review editor-in-chief, this is something that obviously hits home with you.
00:19:49.980I pulled a clip of Obama kind of salivating over the plans of this thing, plotting and planning this $400 million death star, we'll call it, in Chicago.
00:19:59.980Let's roll the clip of Obama kind of salivating over that presidential center.
00:20:03.900Again, $400 million, ladies and gentlemen.
00:20:07.700And then let's get Mark's thoughts on the other side of the video.
00:20:10.340What's going on here, and how can President Trump stop this tremendous waste of taxpayer money?
00:20:16.940So this is going to be on the south side of Chicago in historic Jackson Park, and it's the place where Michelle and I met, where I first started in public life.
00:20:28.480His team brought this model to show us.
00:20:31.740Mr. Obama's foundation has raised from private donations a little over half the estimated $500 million cost.
00:20:41.500It'll take about four years once they start.
00:20:44.400It's going to be a place where, you know, we have the standard model Oval Office and Michelle's dresses, which will be very popular, no doubt, but also, you know, a whole host of facilities that allow us to provide classroom training to young people who are interested in public service and, you know, to beautify a park that can serve a whole bunch of young people who've been underserved in the past.
00:21:16.440Well, the only time Obama comes to Chicago and is actually in the south side is to promote this monstrosity, half a billion dollar venue to showcase his presidency, which basically was a total failure.
00:21:34.120What he really ought to have, Troy, is a section about how to teach young kids how to get into government and weaponize the justice system, how to weaponize prosecutors, how to weaponize agencies like the FBI and the DOJ to target, harass, and persecute your political enemies.
00:21:49.640He ought to have a section in that presidential library where they applaud leaders like Vladimir Putin in Russia and Xi Jinping in China and Kim Jong-un in North Korea who like to jail and prosecute their political enemies.
00:22:05.760This is, this is, it's absurd, but as I said, as I said many times before, Troy, Chicagoans actually are disgusted with the Obamas because here was this historical figure in 2008 from Chicago, first black man to be president of the United States, and he abandoned Chicago.
00:22:23.880The only time he talks about Chicago, the only time he wants to help Chicago is when it's politically convenient for him, and Chicagoans, the south side, residents of the south side and the west side, their lives are no better.
00:22:37.140They still have poor economic opportunities.
00:22:48.220Lots of students still haven't even returned from the pandemic.
00:22:50.880You have middle school and high school age students that are still at an elementary level reading because the education is so poor.
00:22:58.780This is, this is the real Obama's south and west side of Chicago, but I wouldn't expect him to actually talk about the realities because the postcard Chicago, the Chicago that Obama wants the whole world to know, is nothing like the Chicago that is there when his entire entourage leaves.
00:23:19.180And he goes back to his, you know, 20 million dollar mansion in the vineyard or D.C. or in Hawaii.
00:23:26.500Well, Mark, you know, you're talking about a president in Barack Obama who, you know, we see so many people out there protesting.
00:23:34.020In fact, we played a video yesterday of Palestine, pro-Palestine protesters, these anti-America, anti-Israel people protesting Jake Tapper's house ahead of this debate, saying that, oh, he's pro-genocide.
00:23:46.600I would say to those people, there's no individual in the country who is more responsible for particularly Muslim deaths in the Middle East due to drone strikes and other things than President Barack Obama.
00:23:59.720I mean, I think that these pro-Palestine people, if they really want their message to be honest and to be unbiased and to go after the real culprits, the real people who made this happen and have kind of prolonged these wars in the Middle East and stoked these wars in the Middle East, they need to protest this Obama presidential center.
00:24:20.980I mean, you could say, Mark, I think, based on his presidency, that this presidential senator, Obama's entire net worth, his entire aura, his entire well-being, his entire life is built on the fact that he bombed women and children, innocent women and children in the Middle East.
00:24:39.840And I don't think that we should have a $400 million monument to a guy who bombed a lot of women and children, specifically in a time like this, where we have so many people in this country who are looking at the Israel-Palestine conflict and they're saying, wow, I'm not agreeing with the Israelis.
00:24:59.560And I think that's it. Here's an interesting thing. And I want to get your opinion on this, Mark, because, I mean, it seems pretty split.
00:25:06.500But how do you come back as a Democrat party from people who are kind of supporting Palestine?
00:25:12.600They don't really see a problem with Hamas. How do they come back from that into a normal political space?
00:25:20.160Yeah, it's a great question. And let's not forget, Troy, that under the Obama presidency, race relations got worse.
00:25:26.460That's better. It got worse. Remember, we've had the rioting and looting of our communities and cities started under the Obama administration.
00:25:34.380The perfection of the weaponized justice system and FBI started under Obama.
00:25:40.780And I believe these anti-American protesters that you're talking about, these anti-Israel protesters, they were emboldened under the Obama administration.
00:25:48.380Because if you remember, Troy, Obama's first foreign trip as president, he went to the University of Cairo, where he apologized for American behavior.
00:25:58.980And I think that set the tone for the rest of his presidency, the most powerful country in the planet, was no longer the leading we were following.
00:26:11.720And when our commander in chief goes on an apology tour around the world, that really sets the tone.
00:26:17.600And I believe emboldened these anti-American groups and organizations.
00:26:24.700And we're seeing what we're seeing today is is a result of this apology tour.
00:26:30.680But it is very difficult, Troy, to your point, to come back from this.
00:26:35.940Foreign policy has weakened as is a total disaster under Obama.
00:26:40.760And it's a total disaster under Biden.
00:27:05.880It really was a sad, sad photo, sad video that the rest of the world, our enemies, have watched over and over and over again.
00:27:16.300And it's and it's another reason why we are not safe here at home and abroad because of the failure of the foreign policy of Obama's third term.
00:27:25.860Well, Mark, you know what's most aggravating to me is that we see the Democrats, particularly in the media, portrayed as, oh, they're the party of peace.
00:27:34.240You know, they're the party of the Republicans.
00:27:36.880They showed footage of Jan 6th and they say, oh, the Republicans are violent.
00:27:43.280They leave out the protesters intimidating students that aren't allowed to go to their classes because they happen to be Jewish.
00:27:49.400They leave out this intimidation of the left.
00:27:52.420And we see this kind of out in the open now, Mark, where members of Congress, members of the Democrat media, they're openly attacking members of the judiciary and funding their operatives to go in and record these people secretly and then release the footage and lie about what is said.
00:28:08.540This was also done to Roger Stone and what I believe is a more pointed attack on Judge Eileen Cannon over the last several weeks.
00:28:16.580But we actually have footage of one of the most odious members of Congress, Jamie Raskin, who, by the way, is angling with the Democrat Party and Joe Biden and others to remove President Trump from the ballot in 2024.
00:28:31.620They have the it's been put together by Raskin where he could accuse Trump essentially of insurrection in legislation that could pass this or resolution that could pass this.
00:28:43.300And all of a sudden, Trump would be banned from the ballot in all 50 states.
00:28:48.160And this is being led by Jamie Raskin.
00:28:51.380And one of Raskin's biggest fears, Mark, as I understand it, is that the Supreme Court would step in and stop him from being able to remove Trump from the ballot and to stop some of the attacks.
00:29:04.480And we're already seeing signs of that with the immunity case.
00:29:07.300I don't know if you listen to the arguments in that, but we played some of them here.
00:29:11.140And it didn't really sound like it was going too well for Jack Smith and others who want to say that, you know, we're talking about immunity.
00:29:18.420So let's roll the clip of Jamie Raskin attacking the Supreme Court, saying that they will do the right thing and free the January six hostages and get your thoughts on this overall Democrat attack on the judiciary.
00:29:31.860I suspect that the right wing majority on the court is going to dramatically narrow one of the key criminal statutes that's been used in the prosecution of January 6th insurrectionists and rioters.
00:29:47.840And, you know, they have already substantially and let's hope not irrevocably intervened in the 2024 presidential campaign.
00:29:57.680In this election, the Supreme Court plucking up from the D.C. circuit a unanimous, bipartisan, perfectly valid, airtight, analytically decision on presidential immunity and then to hold it for month after month after month in order to slow down the possibility of Jack Smith's prosecution of Donald Trump.
00:30:25.580So, you know, we're already looking at a legacy right now.
00:30:31.160Well, and Mark, as you saw there, a lot of a lot of attacks coming from Jamie Raskin, top Democrats who played Nancy Pelosi yesterday attacking the Supreme Court.
00:31:08.980I don't think there's an—I don't say that very lightly, but I think this is a mental illness on behalf of the Democratic Party and their attacks of their obsession of taking out Donald Trump.
00:31:28.240And they spent the next several months all the way going into his inauguration talking about how to impeach President Trump and how to begin investigations.
00:31:36.860And the day that he was inaugurated on January 20th in 2016, the headline in the Washington Post was, the push for impeachment begins today.
00:31:48.960I mean, it's unbelievable how he could talk about the far-right Supreme Court, all right, and attack the United States Supreme Court, but at the same time not attack these federal judges, these corrupt federal judges, these corrupt prosecutors, these corrupt district attorneys, like in New York City and in Fulton County,
00:32:10.460who are using their offices to target a political enemy, who are doing the bidding of the DNC and of the Biden White House, let's not talk about that at all, but let's focus all of our time and energy on this right-wing United States Supreme Court.
00:32:25.440It's outrageous. And this is why, Troy, President Trump is leading in virtually every national poll, and more specifically in these key swing states, because the average American is sick and tired of what the Democrats are doing,
00:32:40.940and that is using government resources, using federal agencies to target and harass political opponents, and in turn, harass everyday Americans.
00:32:50.580Let's not forget that it was the Biden White House, the Biden administration, that had called everyday moms and dads arguing for their students domestic terrorists.
00:32:58.980This is a dangerous precedent that the Democrats have sent, and I think that the election in November is going to help right the ship when we put Donald Trump back in office.
00:33:07.580But you can't get any more further from reality than Jamie Raskin.
00:33:12.980No, and you know, Mark, I think it's important to point out that basically the entire world structure is realigning under President Joe Biden.
00:33:22.100I mean, we're seeing China emerge, we're seeing Russia emerge, and they're teaming up with nations like North Korea.
00:33:29.140We got news this morning that North Korea is actually going to be sending troops to Ukraine in order to help the Russians kind of with their war effort there.
00:33:38.600And the response from the Pentagon has been kind of unbelievable.
00:33:43.200They said that the North Korean troops will be cannon fodder if they dare to aid Russia in Ukraine.
00:33:50.900You know, it seems to me, Mark, we are in desperate need of an adult in the room here because North Korea is, you know,
00:33:58.800they're getting ready to help Russia and they're doing that because South Korea is stating that they're going to send weapons and possibly people to help Ukraine in their war effort.
00:34:11.720We are in desperate need of a legitimate leader right now that is going to kind of quell these tensions.
00:34:17.540But all the Biden administration appears willing to do with their Pentagon is to pour gasoline on this fire.
00:34:25.520And I got to tell you, I think we're heading, we're barreling towards a hot World War III here.
00:34:37.680The president is cognitively disabled.
00:34:40.880He's a laughingstock, not only here at home, but around the world.
00:34:44.220Just look recently at what happened in the G7 when he's essentially, you know, walking around chasing butterflies while a man is parachuting.
00:34:53.320And you have the Italian prime minister that has to literally walk over to the president of the United States, the most powerful man on the planet,
00:35:00.160put her hand on his back and redirect and to focus here instead of, you know, the butterflies that are flying around outside.
00:35:06.660This is why our enemies have been emboldened under the Biden administration.
00:35:11.800If, because of Biden's cognitive disability, and they know that he's not running our country, you had Putin invade Ukraine.
00:36:19.620This election is about good versus evil.
00:36:22.740Well, Mark, I wanted to ask you about something because it's been something that's been,
00:36:25.980I've been thinking about, especially in regards to this, I have always leaned towards a more isolationist policy as far as foreign policy is concerned.
00:36:34.880I think that the United States should be isolationist.
00:36:37.620But I think it's also important looking at the way China and Russia are going around the world and they're kind of co-opting these countries into becoming part of BRICS and becoming part of their ecosystem.
00:36:49.000Do you think that it's important for us to stay back and to be isolationist?
00:36:54.900Or do you believe in a more aggressive foreign policy that maybe combats the China-Russia worldwide proposition more on its face than to kind of let back, sit back and watch it fail?
00:37:22.020And, you know, and Trump wasn't afraid, you know, as they say, speak softly, but carry a big stick.
00:37:28.000That's exactly what President Trump did during his four years as president, particularly in regards to foreign policy.
00:37:34.760Troy, if you remember the famous story that Trump likes to share when he met with a Taliban leader, you know, he slid over a top secret envelope with photos.
00:37:43.520And the Taliban leader looked at opened up that envelope and in it circled were photos of his home or his family was.
00:37:52.700And President Trump said, I know where you live.
00:37:57.820Stay in line or I'm not going to be afraid to press the button and destroy these locations.
00:38:04.460And that scared him because it was very intimidating.
00:38:08.480And Trump was able to use, you know, top secret photos and to keep the Taliban leader in line.
00:38:16.780And I'm certain he did that with other rural leaders as well about keeping them in check.
00:38:23.160That type of leadership, he never it's like Ronald Reagan in the Cold War.
00:38:26.560Ronald Reagan won the Cold War without firing a single shot.
00:38:29.640The world was safer under President Trump and he didn't have to fire a single shot because he was tough and leaders knew he was predictably unpredictable.
00:38:38.860Leaders also knew that he wasn't afraid afraid to touch the big that pressed the big red button that was on his desk.
00:38:45.060And it wasn't just for a White House steward to bring in Diet Cokes.
00:38:48.620He had the most powerful military on the planet at his disposal.
00:38:53.140And more importantly, unlike with the military and Joe Biden, the military respected President Trump.
00:39:00.340And as a result, we had a much safer world.
00:39:05.360Well, and Mark, one of the things that we're both anticipating tomorrow is the presidential debate between President Biden and President Trump.
00:39:15.040It's important that Trump highlight the contrast in the policies of his administration and Biden because Americans were better off.
00:39:23.440And I don't think that there's really anybody that would honestly and I say that, you know, there are people out there who will say, oh, we're better off now.
00:39:29.680But they're only saying that because they support President Joe Biden.
00:39:33.280I mean, if really you're looking at anybody's situation in the country, it's virtually impossible for you to be doing better today than you were under President Trump, unless you are Mark Zuckerberg, unless you are a multibillionaire.
00:39:47.500Interestingly enough, Mark, the same people who helped Joe Biden get elected.
00:39:53.660And what's interesting, Troy, is the leaking coming out of the Biden White House and from his political aides is that do not, they're advising him, do not focus on your record, Joe, because it sucks.
00:40:31.180Americans were thriving, particularly the Black community, the Hispanic community, women, the Asian community, some of the lowest unemployment rates in the history of our country.
00:40:45.100People have more money in their pockets.
00:40:50.680And we were respected around the world.
00:40:52.940So I think that's an interesting strategy and an interesting sort of revelation coming out of the Biden camp is stay away from your record as president because it is awful.
00:41:04.060And I think that he's hiding Camp David for the last several days because they're trying to figure out what sort of medication, what sort of cocktail they need to put him on so that he's alert.
00:41:14.740But we all know that's not the real Joe Biden.
00:41:17.160It's a different Joe Biden every time we see him publicly.
00:41:20.040So I can't wait to see which body double they drag out this time because we know that this president is incompetent, he's incontinent, and he's cognitively disabled.
00:41:30.160You cannot put a guy like this on the world stage against a debate with someone as tough and strong as President Trump.
00:41:38.080Well, and Mark, we're living through the real world consequences of having a president that is incapable of doing the job.
00:41:46.480And one of these, one of the problems here is that he has been at Camp David since the 20th.
00:41:54.680Almost seven days he's been out of sight, out of mind, not doing his job as president.
00:41:59.820Let's roll the footage of him kind of wandering back to go to Camp David a few days ago.
00:42:07.020And let's remind the audience, Russia is on the offensive.
00:42:10.440While Biden was at Camp David, Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin have met.
00:42:15.480They've made an agreement between Russia and North Korea.
00:42:19.000And on top of that, Russia's made deals with other countries, including Vietnam and other countries there in Asia.
00:42:26.500It's a major problem that this guy has to go into hiding for a week, and we don't have a president for a week.
00:42:34.980And while that absence is going on, Mark, the Russians, the Chinese, all these people are out taking whatever they want on the world stage because they know, as far as the United States is concerned, nobody's home.
00:42:47.320There's nothing guarding the hen house, and they are going in and they are doing whatever they want around the world, and it's a major problem.
00:42:54.380Let's roll Biden wandering back to Camp David a few days ago so just people get the idea.
00:43:00.340This is what's leading our country, and this is what's going to be on the debate stage tomorrow.
00:43:24.380Notice how he zeroes in on the kid there, Mark.
00:43:32.340Yeah, hopefully he wasn't sniffing his hair or touching him inappropriately.
00:43:40.020But yet, you know, this is a perfect example of, again, this is what we're seeing because of a president, commander-in-chief who's incompetent, incontinent, and cognitively disabled.
00:43:50.940We're seeing literally rioting and looting by our adversaries at the international level.
00:43:56.860You know, I use an example of, you know, what's happening in Chicago, the rioting and looting.
00:44:05.540But what we're seeing at the international level by our adversaries is a much larger version of this rioting and looting because no one's manning the store.
00:44:14.300No one's holding these leaders accountable, and they don't feel intimidated by a guy, quite frankly, who's running around and chasing butterflies.
00:44:40.700And they know that they've just got a few more months to play, a few more months to make deals, a few more months to make havoc before there's a new sheriff in town.
00:44:51.560And so I expect this, Troy, not to get better, but to get worse as we get closer to November.
00:44:57.240Well, and so, Mark, my question to you is we saw in the Michigan Democratic primary that 100,000 people voted against Joe Biden in his own primary.
00:45:06.440And most of this was due to a protest against his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
00:45:13.560Do you think that those people, what are they going to do come November, those 100,000 people in Michigan?
00:45:20.380Are they going to vote for President Trump?
00:45:22.800Will they choose an independent like Robert F. Kennedy?
00:45:25.420What do you think they end up doing at the end?
00:45:28.480I actually believe they're going to vote for President Trump because what President Trump has done is he's really realigned politics in America.
00:45:35.780The Democratic Party is no longer the party of the working class.
00:45:39.140It's no longer the party of the Black and Hispanic community.
00:45:47.600You think about the First Step Act and how that really helped reverse the racist policies put in place by Joe Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who wrote the Clinton crime bill that accelerated mass incarceration for Black and brown communities in America.
00:46:07.240Donald Trump has really realigned the politics.
00:46:11.620And as a result, we're going to see voters vote for Donald Trump that we've never seen before in modern political history.
00:46:18.580I bet that Donald Trump is going to get more support in the Black community as much, if not more, than Richard Nixon, who got over 30 percent of the Black vote.
00:46:28.640I think President Trump is on track to exceed that.
00:46:32.640We've never seen anything like that in modern political history.
00:46:36.080But there's no doubt in my mind that these voters in Michigan and Chicago and in Atlanta and Los Angeles and in the Bronx will be abandoning the Democratic Party, abandoning Joe Biden and voting for Donald Trump.
00:46:50.260Well, and for all those voters out there, I think you have two appeals for voting for Donald Trump.
00:46:56.260One, if you want peace, if you want the Palestine conflict to end, you want the bombs to stop falling.
00:47:03.540The only candidate that has shown that he is capable of delivering that kind of result is Donald Trump.
00:47:12.180If any of these people truly believe what they say and they want the bombs to stop falling, they want the bloodshed to end, that will stop under President Trump.
00:47:46.380So for anybody out there that claims to be on the side of peace, for anybody out there that claims that they want the conflicts in Israel and Ukraine to end, they want to see peace.
00:47:57.780He is the one that has proven he's capable of delivering peace, not just in the Middle East, but across the world.
00:48:05.320Under Joe Biden, we've seen all these conflicts erupt, Mark.
00:48:08.440They've gotten worse and worse and worse.
00:48:10.740And I think you're right that even if they don't see Trump as the guy who can bring peace, which many of them may not, you know, believe just because of the propaganda and things like that.
00:48:22.540But I think there's a second element to this that will bring a lot of these voters out.
00:48:26.800And that is the chaos element in that the more the mainstream that, you know, we just showed the clip yesterday of the pro-Palestine people attacking Jake Tapper's house, you know, bullhorning him, yelling at him.
00:48:40.200Those people, they see the ones on the mainstream media, the leftists, the people pushing the propaganda, they see them as part of the Israel coalition.
00:48:52.160They see everything in the slant of Israel-Palestine.
00:48:56.980In that, I think, they see the press kind of freaking out over Donald Trump saying, oh, he's going to throw a monkey wrench in the system.
00:49:08.780He's going to come after people who have been in government, which, you know, not 100% true.
00:49:13.860He's going to enforce the rule of law.
00:49:15.720So if there's people that have been in government that have broken the law, especially egregiously or maybe even committed treason,
00:49:21.380as Roger often says, there is no statute of limitations on treason.
00:49:25.760So it's not going after your political opponent to enforce the law.
00:49:31.340It's going after your political opponent to bend the law and to bend the Justice Department and to use that to target your political opponents.
00:49:41.020No, this is not targeting political opponents.
00:50:07.240So the idea that somebody is going to come in and shake things up, I think Trump's outsider appeal is greater now than maybe it even was in 2016.
00:50:17.220He had a tough sell as an outsider who was president of the United States in 2020.
00:50:22.540I still think he won that election pretty handedly, but there was a lot of election fraud.
00:50:27.260And now I think he's situated better as an outsider than he ever has been.
00:51:53.160But it just highlights this guy has a history of lying about basically everything.
00:51:57.940And we have a clip that's a little long.
00:52:00.480I want to play this before we get out of here and get your thoughts on it before we go.
00:52:04.860But it's a clip highlighting throughout Biden's career where he's been caught plagiarizing different politicians.
00:52:10.500Let's roll that clip and get Mark's thoughts.
00:52:12.380Democratic presidential candidate Joseph Biden today faces a controversy.
00:52:17.960Three weeks ago at a debate at the Iowa State Fair, he used phrases identical to those delivered by British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnick.
00:52:26.160Biden seemed to be claiming Kinnick's vision and life as his own.
00:52:30.240Why is it that my wife, who's sitting out there in the audience, is the first in her family to ever go to college?
00:52:36.940Why is Gladys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get the university?
00:52:44.800My ancestors who worked in the coal mines in northeast Pennsylvania don't come up after 12 hours and play football.
00:52:50.220Eight hours underground and then come up and play football.
00:52:53.340It's because they didn't have a platform upon which to stand.
00:52:56.660There was no platform upon which they could stand.
00:53:00.920The notion that every thought or notion or idea you'd have to go back and find and attribute to someone, I think is, quite frankly, ludicrous.
00:53:09.220The problem here is that Senator Biden told his audience he'd just been thinking about these things,
00:53:14.400and he failed to give any credit at all to his famous British speechwriter.
00:53:19.280You know, I was thinking on the way over here.
00:53:21.120Now, that's a little too much, because, as you point out, what's behind the words?
00:53:28.280And a lot of people, a rap on Biden has always been that it's just a surface.
00:53:31.680I should have said, to paraphrase Neil Kinnick, it's the only time I didn't, in all the times I've ever used it.
00:53:40.500But CBS News found a tape of a second instance.
00:53:43.640It reappeared in the New York Times with a new charge, that Biden had appropriated a famous litany from the late Robert Kennedy about what the gross national product cannot measure.
00:53:52.580It cannot measure the health of our children.
00:54:31.820To the political community in Washington, it all seems of a piece.
00:54:35.340Plagiarism at law school, plagiarism on the stump.
00:54:38.060The great communicator. Strike that. The great imitator.
00:54:41.000You don't steal verbatim, or when you do, as he did 99% of the time, you give credit.
00:54:48.520Biden's critics say he sells himself as a man whose words and visions can inspire a new generation in politics.
00:54:55.180But if the thoughts, phrases, and visions really belong to others, it's a form of false advertising.
00:55:00.820Is it a wise idea, though, to take something that personal, anyway, from another politician and try and appropriate it to your own campaign?
00:55:08.040I think it was a stupid thing to appropriate material that was really very personal that was someone else's.
00:55:13.620Most people didn't know who he was, you know, Joe Biden, and now they're going to say, oh, yeah, he's the guy who plagiarized.
00:55:25.660He looks like a Joe Biden wind-up doll with somebody else's words coming out.
00:55:30.000If they're going to do things that are stupid as well as immoral, then they're probably too dumb to have the job of president.
00:55:37.840Voters are going to have to decide whether he was dishonest or dumb.
00:55:41.380Senator Joseph Biden may have more explaining to do.
00:55:43.960The new questions stem from taped remarks of Biden during an April campaign appearance in New Hampshire.
00:55:50.600I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship.
00:55:57.840Went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class.
00:56:01.920I was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year.
00:56:05.620I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school and 165 credits, only 123 credits.
00:56:10.940Biden now concedes he did not graduate in the top half of his law school class, that he does not have three degrees from college,
00:56:17.620and that he was not named outstanding political science student in college.
00:56:21.420Newsweek says Biden actually went to school on a half scholarship, ended up near the bottom of his class, and won only one degree, not three.
00:56:28.740Joe Biden ranked 76th in the class of 85 at the University of Syracuse Law School.
00:56:34.280I mean, this guy comes off this whole thing as a flyweight.
00:56:37.320Now Biden says Newsweek is right. His memory had failed him.
00:56:40.380And I'd be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you'd like, frankly.
00:56:44.380Joe Biden was victimized by the truth.
00:56:46.580Bye-bye Biden. He may not know it yet, but I think this is going to be very difficult for him to recover.