The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Grant Cardone： Kamala’s Economic Plans Would Cause a Depression

00:00:00.140 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.680 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.720 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:17.340 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:22.980 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.720 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.740 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:41.880 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:47.380 Today is August 27th, my birthday, a birthday I share with Lyndon Baines Johnson,

00:00:55.060 the man about which I wrote the most definitive takedown in American history,

00:01:01.200 the man who killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ.

00:01:05.220 We'll be celebrating our dual birthdays today, but let's get right to it.

00:01:10.360 Let me bring in my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News, Troy Smith.

00:01:16.920 Troy, welcome back into the Zone.

00:01:19.080 Roger, let me be the first to say happy birthday.

00:01:21.400 And I just wanted to, before we just get into the news right here, I have one quick question for you.

00:01:26.440 We pulled some pictures of some of the things you've done in your career,

00:01:29.280 some of the great people you've advised and helped get to the White House,

00:01:32.960 whether it be Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, or Donald Trump.

00:01:36.000 And I wanted to ask you, you know, looking back on your career today,

00:01:39.120 I'm wondering, what do you look at as your top accomplishment,

00:01:43.140 the thing you are most proud of accomplishing in your entire career?

00:01:47.320 Because you've had such a long time in politics, I think it's interesting.

00:01:51.120 I guess I would have to say that in 1988,

00:01:54.420 I first came up with the idea of President Donald Trump running for president.

00:02:01.560 I think other than Richard Nixon himself, who met Trump at the Yankee Stadium,

00:02:06.580 at the owner George Steinbrenner's box,

00:02:09.740 I think I may be the first person in the country to have conceived of a Trump presidency.

00:02:15.360 So that would definitely be my greatest accomplishment.

00:02:20.460 It took a while for me to convince him to run,

00:02:22.700 but of course he's become one of our greatest presidents.

00:02:25.420 After that, I would have to say the election of Ronald Reagan,

00:02:29.120 because it caused a fundamental change in the direction of the country,

00:02:33.200 just as the election of Donald Trump did.

00:02:36.220 So I appreciate you taking me down that particular trip of memory lane.

00:02:41.780 Folks, there was a huge amount of coverage.

00:02:45.380 We talked about it here extensively,

00:02:47.020 about Robert Kennedy's withdrawal from the race,

00:02:51.760 or I should say suspension of his campaign,

00:02:54.320 and his formal endorsement of Donald Trump.

00:02:57.580 Now, the mainstream media today is going to try to tell you

00:03:00.420 that doesn't matter, it's immaterial, it's irrelevant,

00:03:04.460 doesn't affect the race.

00:03:05.800 I happen to know that there is panic,

00:03:07.780 there's apoplexy in the Kamala Harris campaign today.

00:03:11.940 I know this from a source.

00:03:14.660 But something I think just as important yesterday happened when,

00:03:19.820 and the guy who put it best was Robert Kennedy,

00:03:23.120 yesterday at the National Guard Association meeting,

00:03:27.480 President Donald Trump brought former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard with him,

00:03:32.160 and she not only formally endorsed his campaign,

00:03:36.280 but says she will be campaigning for him now.

00:03:39.000 Other than the days that she's on U.S. Army Reserve,

00:03:41.700 where she's still an officer,

00:03:43.240 she'll be campaigning for him every day.

00:03:45.560 Let's roll this clip of Tulsi,

00:03:48.280 because I think it's important.

00:03:50.000 It is a privilege to be here with all of you,

00:03:51.940 my brothers and sisters in uniform,

00:03:54.380 especially on this day of all days.

00:03:57.840 I had the privilege of joining President Trump this morning

00:04:01.540 at Arlington Cemetery,

00:04:04.220 where he joined two Gold Star families

00:04:08.740 and loved ones of Staff Sergeant Hoover and Sergeant G,

00:04:14.580 both of whom were two of the 13 killed in the Abbey Gate attack

00:04:19.500 three years ago today in Kabul.

00:04:22.780 And I can tell you as we were there,

00:04:26.320 as he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier,

00:04:30.040 joining these Marines' loved ones,

00:04:32.760 I felt the sorrow that he shared with them in their loss.

00:04:39.060 I felt and saw his sincere appreciation

00:04:43.420 for these servicemen and women who paid the ultimate price

00:04:48.420 and their loved ones who continue to grieve to this day.

00:04:55.720 This is personal for me,

00:04:57.260 as I know it is for so many of you here.

00:05:00.060 This is real.

00:05:01.580 It's not just words.

00:05:03.800 I first deployed to Iraq in 2005

00:05:06.000 with the Hawaii Army National Guard

00:05:07.840 as a member of Charlie Med.

00:05:10.660 As those of you who were deployed during that time know,

00:05:23.240 it was the height of the war,

00:05:24.440 and sadly, we took many casualties.

00:05:27.500 And every day we were confronted

00:05:29.140 with that high human cost of war

00:05:32.080 and that sadness as we boarded the plane when we left

00:05:35.340 that we were leaving some of our brothers and sisters behind.

00:05:38.440 only to lose others when we got home to suicide.

00:05:45.680 So I mean what I say when I share with you

00:05:49.060 that I know that President Trump understands

00:05:51.400 the grave responsibility

00:05:53.020 that a President and Commander-in-Chief bears

00:05:55.280 for every single one of our lives.

00:05:59.300 Whether you're a soldier, you're an airman,

00:06:00.960 a marine, sailor, or a coastie,

00:06:03.300 he keeps us in his heart in the decisions that he makes.

00:06:06.760 We saw this through his first term in the presidency

00:06:10.000 when he not only didn't start any new wars,

00:06:14.000 he took action to de-escalate and prevent wars.

00:06:18.260 He exercised the courage that we expect

00:06:20.880 from our Commander-in-Chief

00:06:22.400 in exhausting all measures of diplomacy,

00:06:26.260 having the courage to meet with adversaries,

00:06:29.720 dictators, allies, and partners alike

00:06:31.760 alike in the pursuit of peace,

00:06:35.420 seeing war as a last resort.

00:06:39.000 The truth is, as we head towards our decision

00:06:42.300 as a country in November,

00:06:43.600 the same cannot be said about Kamala Harris.

00:06:48.300 In fact, the opposite is true,

00:06:49.920 and we're living through this reality today

00:06:51.880 as this administration has us facing multiple wars

00:06:56.260 on multiple fronts and regions around the world

00:06:58.860 and closer to the brink of nuclear war

00:07:01.940 than we ever have been before.

00:07:05.840 This is one of the main reasons

00:07:07.320 why I'm committed to doing all that I can

00:07:09.080 to send President Trump back to the White House

00:07:11.640 where he can once again serve us

00:07:13.200 as our Commander-in-Chief.

00:07:14.400 Because I am confident

00:07:27.420 that his first task will be

00:07:30.280 to do the work to walk us back

00:07:32.280 from the brink of war.

00:07:35.700 We cannot be prosperous unless we are at peace.

00:07:40.120 And we can't live free

00:07:41.440 as long as we have a government

00:07:42.880 that is retaliating against its political opponents

00:07:45.960 and undermining our civil liberties,

00:07:47.840 weaponizing our very institutions

00:07:50.220 against those they deem as a threat.

00:07:54.320 Kamala Harris has done this

00:07:55.840 over the last three and a half years.

00:07:58.260 She won't hesitate to continue that

00:08:00.020 if she is elected as President.

00:08:02.340 President Trump has been their first

00:08:04.240 and foremost target in this

00:08:05.980 because they don't want us as voters

00:08:07.840 to even have the option to vote for him.

00:08:10.860 I've been their most recent target

00:08:13.680 added to a secret domestic terror watch list

00:08:17.120 after exposing the truth

00:08:18.520 about what kind of dangers we would face

00:08:21.580 if Kamala Harris is elected as President.

00:08:25.940 We as Americans must stand together

00:08:29.020 to reject this anti-freedom culture

00:08:32.160 of political retaliation and abuse of power.

00:08:35.400 We can't allow our country to be destroyed

00:08:38.580 by politicians who will put their own power

00:08:40.860 ahead of the interests of the American people,

00:08:43.540 our freedom, and our future.

00:08:45.100 I am proud to stand here before you today,

00:08:58.580 whether you're a Democrat, a Republican,

00:09:01.440 or an Independent,

00:09:03.380 if you love our country as I do,

00:09:07.080 if you cherish peace and freedom as we do,

00:09:10.100 I invite you to join me

00:09:12.000 in doing all that we can to save our country

00:09:14.420 and elect President Donald J. Trump

00:09:17.720 and send him back to the White House

00:09:19.860 to do the tough work of saving our country

00:09:23.100 and serving the people.

00:09:24.700 Thank you very much.

00:09:25.580 Thank you very much, Mr. President.

00:09:26.780 I wanted to play that

00:09:36.740 because I think it is one of the key cornerstones

00:09:39.680 of upcoming political realignment in the country.

00:09:43.580 In other words,

00:09:44.400 we've had these watershed political realignments,

00:09:47.260 1932 with Franklin Roosevelt,

00:09:49.620 1968 with Richard Nixon,

00:09:51.500 although he was elected with a plurality,

00:09:53.860 it is the Nixon electoral coalition

00:09:57.320 that ultimately elected Ronald Reagan

00:10:00.200 and really a progenitor of the coalition

00:10:07.420 that elected Donald Trump.

00:10:09.520 So, and I think RFK put this almost perfectly

00:10:13.220 when he said,

00:10:14.440 Wonder Woman has joined the Liberty League,

00:10:17.520 meaning if Robert Kennedy,

00:10:20.280 obviously Donald Trump,

00:10:21.700 and J.D. Vance and Robert Kennedy

00:10:25.040 and hopefully his running mate,

00:10:27.320 Nicole Shanahan and Tulsi Gabbard

00:10:30.200 are on the stump for Donald Trump

00:10:33.520 in swing states, in key counties,

00:10:36.040 I think this can make all the difference in the world.

00:10:39.340 So I must say that

00:10:41.340 having looked at a lot of political candidates

00:10:43.960 and political communicators in my life,

00:10:46.980 Tulsi Gabbard is among

00:10:48.460 the most talented communicators I have seen.

00:10:52.800 She's an extraordinary woman.

00:10:54.700 She has an extraordinary record.

00:10:56.340 It's not just four terms in Congress.

00:10:58.660 She was also once a vice chairman

00:11:00.720 of the Democrat National Committee.

00:11:03.300 She's an Iraq and Kuwait combat veteran,

00:11:07.080 and today she holds the rank of lieutenant colonel

00:11:11.060 in the U.S. Army Reserve.

00:11:12.520 She's also a championship surfer,

00:11:16.300 and evidently she's a hell of a shot

00:11:18.720 and a strong proponent of the Second Amendment.

00:11:21.800 So I think this is extremely additive.

00:11:25.600 Folks, today, on today's show,

00:11:27.800 we're privileged to have an extraordinary guest,

00:11:31.160 Grant Cardone,

00:11:32.360 one of the leading entrepreneurs

00:11:34.100 and businessmen in the country.

00:11:35.520 He is, of course, the head of Cardone Capital,

00:11:37.860 with a multifamily portfolio of assets

00:11:41.000 of over $4.7 billion.

00:11:44.580 He's going to join us here shortly.

00:11:47.780 But I wanted you to know he was coming up,

00:11:50.360 so please stick with us.

00:11:52.020 If you're just tuning in,

00:11:53.000 this is The Stone Zone.

00:11:54.280 I'm Roger Stone.

00:11:55.160 This is my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:11:58.240 Troy, while we wait for our guest,

00:12:00.800 do you have an additional thought?

00:12:03.240 Well, yeah, of course, Roger.

00:12:04.660 On Tulsi Gabbard, you know,

00:12:05.920 I read her book recently,

00:12:07.460 and we discussed, obviously,

00:12:09.500 the news of the spying

00:12:11.460 that's been going on on Tulsi Gabbard.

00:12:13.120 And when you read her book,

00:12:14.260 you pick it up.

00:12:15.120 First of all, I want to congratulate her,

00:12:16.440 a New York Times bestseller

00:12:17.540 and probably the best book I've read this summer,

00:12:20.400 although she's had some pretty...

00:12:22.700 I've read some bad books

00:12:24.060 by some Democrats this summer,

00:12:25.420 so she hasn't had much competition in that regard.

00:12:27.480 But she pretty openly attacks Hillary Clinton

00:12:30.340 in the beginning for falsely claiming

00:12:32.180 that she's a Russian asset.

00:12:33.580 She debunks that claim rather quickly, of course,

00:12:36.960 and then she goes on to kind of describe

00:12:39.180 the way that the surveillance state

00:12:41.100 has been used in the post-9-11 world

00:12:44.000 to go after American citizens

00:12:46.100 and people who object to the political wishes

00:12:48.880 of the ruling class in this country.

00:12:50.980 And coming from her, Roger,

00:12:52.800 a Democrat congresswoman

00:12:54.340 who signed up for the military

00:12:56.140 and actually served in Iraq after 9-11,

00:12:59.080 to hear her criticizing something

00:13:00.940 like the Patriot Act,

00:13:02.240 her resume, what she's accomplished in her life,

00:13:05.560 it adds so much credibility

00:13:07.000 to the Trump movement.

00:13:08.540 It adds so much credibility to,

00:13:10.860 like you said,

00:13:11.500 the political realignment in this country.

00:13:13.800 And it's my hope,

00:13:15.200 and I want to really ask you about this too,

00:13:18.040 will Robert F. Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard,

00:13:20.820 will the Trump campaign use these big names,

00:13:24.200 these former Democrats,

00:13:25.340 in traditionally blue areas

00:13:27.360 in order to try to change the tide?

00:13:29.540 I mean, I can't imagine places like Virginia

00:13:32.060 and New Jersey,

00:13:33.000 where they're trying to get some momentum,

00:13:34.760 these names have to help tremendously, Roger.

00:13:37.480 I think that is exactly what's going to happen.

00:13:40.780 I think that this is like having,

00:13:42.980 including J.D. Vance,

00:13:44.540 you have, in essence,

00:13:46.900 four major voices

00:13:48.460 that can be in different places,

00:13:49.960 different times,

00:13:50.640 in different media markets.

00:13:52.020 So this is going to be

00:13:53.160 an extraordinary campaign.

00:13:54.940 Let me go to a quick commercial break here,

00:13:57.820 and then we're going to be right back

00:13:59.340 with Grant Cardone of Cardone Capital.

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00:15:39.200 All right.

00:15:42.280 We are honored

00:15:43.800 to have with us

00:15:45.600 one of the country's

00:15:46.800 leading entrepreneurs

00:15:48.040 and businessman,

00:15:49.560 but also a man

00:15:50.540 who's helped

00:15:51.100 countless thousands of others

00:15:53.180 get started

00:15:54.000 on the road

00:15:55.240 to economic success

00:15:56.580 and having a viable,

00:15:59.420 successful business enterprise.

00:16:01.900 Grant Cardone,

00:16:02.860 of course,

00:16:03.520 owns and operates

00:16:05.200 one of,

00:16:06.620 I guess,

00:16:07.400 seven privately held companies,

00:16:09.860 but also has

00:16:10.900 a private equity

00:16:11.820 real estate firm,

00:16:12.900 Cardone Capital,

00:16:13.980 with a multibillionaire portfolio

00:16:16.000 of over $4.7 billion.

00:16:19.920 He is far more

00:16:22.960 than just a businessman

00:16:23.980 and an entrepreneur.

00:16:25.680 He has a very pungent

00:16:27.000 and I would say

00:16:29.740 entertaining presence on X.

00:16:33.340 It is my great honor

00:16:34.720 to welcome

00:16:36.400 Grant Cardone

00:16:37.380 to the Stone Zone today.

00:16:40.060 Roger,

00:16:40.620 always great to be

00:16:41.500 with you,

00:16:41.840 my friend.

00:16:43.300 I'm delighted

00:16:44.080 that you could make it

00:16:44.960 and we're very grateful.

00:16:45.820 I wish I could do

00:16:47.080 those stripes

00:16:47.700 the way you do them.

00:16:48.780 You know,

00:16:49.060 bro,

00:16:49.940 you do fashion

00:16:50.720 probably better

00:16:51.400 than anybody

00:16:51.960 in the game today.

00:16:53.900 Well,

00:16:54.160 that's very kind.

00:16:55.240 You know,

00:16:55.740 I'm a close horse

00:16:56.500 and I admit it.

00:16:58.600 Yeah.

00:16:59.000 All right,

00:16:59.500 Grant,

00:16:59.760 I'm really glad

00:17:00.480 that you could join us today

00:17:02.080 because there is so much happening

00:17:03.620 that I want to hear

00:17:04.460 your views.

00:17:06.360 We haven't seen much

00:17:07.980 from Kamala Harris

00:17:09.260 in terms of actual

00:17:11.460 policy proposals,

00:17:12.880 but what we have seen

00:17:14.600 seems pretty scary to me.

00:17:17.480 Let's start with this idea

00:17:20.420 that she would change

00:17:21.940 the capital gains tax

00:17:23.560 so that you would

00:17:25.440 have to pay taxes

00:17:26.640 on appreciation

00:17:28.660 of things

00:17:29.480 that you haven't sold.

00:17:32.080 Yeah,

00:17:32.540 well,

00:17:32.660 there's two parts

00:17:33.260 to that

00:17:33.640 that she proposes,

00:17:35.160 okay?

00:17:35.540 And let me just say this.

00:17:36.940 This woman is either

00:17:38.120 financially illiterate

00:17:39.800 or worse,

00:17:42.460 she believes

00:17:43.660 her audience is.

00:17:45.480 And I happen to think

00:17:46.820 it's the latter,

00:17:47.920 not the first.

00:17:49.040 It could be a combination

00:17:49.940 of both,

00:17:50.500 but a 45%

00:17:52.140 capital gains tax.

00:17:53.480 The first part

00:17:54.440 of that is

00:17:55.000 if your mother

00:17:56.940 was lucky enough

00:17:58.140 or a grandmother

00:17:58.700 was lucky enough

00:17:59.540 to buy a house

00:18:00.180 back in 1950

00:18:01.300 for $7,500

00:18:02.320 and that house

00:18:03.940 is worth,

00:18:04.420 let's say,

00:18:04.700 a million dollars today

00:18:05.640 just for simple math,

00:18:07.180 the government

00:18:07.680 would take $450,000

00:18:09.980 of that gain,

00:18:11.700 $450 of the million dollars

00:18:13.540 would be taken

00:18:14.480 from your mother

00:18:15.440 or grandmother

00:18:15.960 in this case.

00:18:17.740 This would create

00:18:18.760 an immediate depression

00:18:20.220 in this country,

00:18:21.280 okay?

00:18:21.620 It would cause

00:18:22.180 most of the wealth

00:18:23.440 in this country

00:18:23.980 is tied up in people,

00:18:25.000 the equity in people's home.

00:18:26.140 It's about $15 trillion

00:18:27.500 today.

00:18:30.140 And it would just

00:18:31.840 be devastating,

00:18:32.800 Roger,

00:18:33.160 to wipe out

00:18:34.140 people's gains.

00:18:35.320 That's just a house.

00:18:36.120 It would happen

00:18:36.560 also to stocks,

00:18:38.320 bonds,

00:18:39.500 anything that had grown

00:18:40.880 or appreciated

00:18:41.640 if you owned Apple stock

00:18:42.900 and were lucky enough

00:18:43.580 to buy that 25 years ago,

00:18:45.240 all that could be wiped out.

00:18:46.580 The second part of that,

00:18:47.780 by the way,

00:18:48.240 can never be done.

00:18:50.120 And this is why

00:18:50.880 I wonder

00:18:51.640 if she's illiterate

00:18:52.680 or she believes

00:18:53.380 her audience is

00:18:54.240 that you would

00:18:56.100 pay gains

00:18:57.680 on something

00:18:58.760 you haven't yet sold.

00:19:00.980 Meaning that same

00:19:02.020 grandmother

00:19:02.640 would

00:19:04.320 owe

00:19:05.620 the government,

00:19:07.200 the IRS,

00:19:07.800 $450,000

00:19:08.820 even if she hadn't

00:19:10.400 sold the house,

00:19:12.700 which she can't

00:19:13.360 get the money.

00:19:13.960 So think about

00:19:14.600 all the farmers

00:19:15.260 and the ranchers

00:19:16.140 and the business owners.

00:19:17.160 I own a business

00:19:17.760 I started with no money

00:19:18.900 because I live

00:19:20.240 in this country

00:19:20.800 and I work hard

00:19:21.740 and I do the right things.

00:19:23.700 this company's worth,

00:19:24.940 you know,

00:19:25.660 it's worth a lot

00:19:26.740 of money today.

00:19:28.100 I haven't taken

00:19:28.660 any money out

00:19:29.360 and I don't owe

00:19:29.860 any money.

00:19:30.580 The government

00:19:31.040 could walk in.

00:19:31.800 This is seizure

00:19:32.460 of property.

00:19:33.480 This is communism.

00:19:35.160 This is like,

00:19:35.900 we're going to take

00:19:36.600 what you built

00:19:37.320 and we're going to,

00:19:38.820 you know,

00:19:39.500 divide it

00:19:40.100 amongst the people.

00:19:44.220 Very well put.

00:19:45.620 In other words,

00:19:46.900 remember they told us

00:19:47.800 when Donald Trump

00:19:48.480 was elected,

00:19:49.080 there was going to be

00:19:49.620 a stock market crash.

00:19:51.640 In this case,

00:19:53.380 the calamity

00:19:54.060 you describe,

00:19:55.020 I think,

00:19:55.380 is very real.

00:19:57.560 She's also proposed,

00:19:59.180 if I'm reading it right,

00:20:02.060 a grant of $25,000

00:20:04.600 to basically anyone

00:20:06.400 who wants to buy a home,

00:20:07.960 whether or not

00:20:08.860 they have the ability

00:20:09.780 to subsequently

00:20:10.840 serve a service

00:20:12.620 a mortgage or not.

00:20:14.060 Now,

00:20:14.740 I'm older

00:20:16.040 than both of you guys

00:20:17.160 and I remember

00:20:18.500 we tried this

00:20:19.320 once before

00:20:20.120 when Andrew Cuomo

00:20:21.620 was the Secretary

00:20:22.680 of Housing

00:20:23.760 and Urban Development.

00:20:25.380 We did the exact

00:20:26.300 same thing.

00:20:27.000 We made mortgages

00:20:28.340 available to people

00:20:29.620 who could never,

00:20:31.480 ever be able

00:20:32.160 to service a mortgage.

00:20:33.980 This was when

00:20:34.340 Bill Clinton

00:20:34.780 was president.

00:20:35.900 That's right.

00:20:36.840 It caused

00:20:37.480 an across-the-board

00:20:38.980 economic crash.

00:20:40.480 Not just that.

00:20:41.300 20 million people

00:20:42.280 lost their homes

00:20:43.040 because of that.

00:20:44.620 They ended up

00:20:45.480 losing something

00:20:46.220 they didn't have.

00:20:46.860 Some of those people

00:20:47.440 are still underwater

00:20:48.240 in those homes.

00:20:49.300 That was devastating.

00:20:51.120 I didn't mean

00:20:51.720 to interrupt you,

00:20:52.320 Roger,

00:20:52.620 but this $25,000

00:20:53.800 tax credit

00:20:54.640 for everybody

00:20:55.080 who doesn't know,

00:20:55.540 you can get that now.

00:20:56.500 You do not need

00:20:57.180 the government

00:20:57.720 to give you

00:20:58.940 a $25,000 tax credit

00:21:00.700 that's going to be

00:21:01.200 funded by taxpayers.

00:21:03.300 You can get it

00:21:04.120 from your builder

00:21:04.720 right now.

00:21:05.400 You can buy

00:21:06.000 a brand-new house

00:21:06.960 today cheaper

00:21:07.660 than you can buy

00:21:08.480 a 20-year-old house.

00:21:10.440 You can probably

00:21:11.860 get the entire

00:21:12.640 down payment

00:21:13.340 funded by the

00:21:14.460 builder today.

00:21:15.100 You don't need

00:21:15.520 the government

00:21:16.000 involved in these

00:21:16.840 programs.

00:21:18.120 If a builder

00:21:18.580 wants to sell

00:21:19.200 his house

00:21:19.640 or a seller

00:21:20.120 wants to sell

00:21:20.740 their house,

00:21:21.240 they will do

00:21:22.260 what it takes

00:21:24.040 to sell the house.

00:21:24.800 That's supply

00:21:25.320 and demand.

00:21:25.800 That's capitalism.

00:21:27.320 The moment

00:21:27.980 the government

00:21:28.500 gets involved,

00:21:29.240 by the way,

00:21:30.860 and again,

00:21:31.280 this goes back

00:21:31.840 to why I believe

00:21:32.760 she's either

00:21:33.540 illiterate

00:21:34.240 or she thinks

00:21:35.360 her audience is,

00:21:37.700 which it's

00:21:39.160 terrible to think

00:21:40.020 that you believe

00:21:41.700 your audience

00:21:42.260 is so stupid

00:21:43.040 they would

00:21:43.400 believe this

00:21:43.920 stuff.

00:21:45.200 If the

00:21:46.160 federal government

00:21:47.740 got involved

00:21:48.360 in a $25,000

00:21:49.480 credit,

00:21:51.280 you guys

00:21:51.600 got to

00:21:51.840 understand

00:21:52.180 that the

00:21:52.640 builder

00:21:55.000 is going

00:21:55.540 to raise

00:21:56.100 the price

00:21:57.400 of the house,

00:21:58.240 not by $25,000.

00:22:00.140 They're going

00:22:00.740 to raise

00:22:01.100 the price

00:22:01.620 of the house

00:22:02.100 by $75,000

00:22:03.360 to $150,000

00:22:04.740 because that's

00:22:06.860 what they can

00:22:07.300 afford to give you.

00:22:08.580 A down payment

00:22:09.180 today on a house

00:22:09.980 is about 5%.

00:22:11.040 5% of $100,000

00:22:12.760 is, what,

00:22:14.140 $5,000.

00:22:14.940 So they can

00:22:15.320 actually raise

00:22:16.060 the price

00:22:16.560 of the house

00:22:17.300 more than

00:22:18.720 the credit

00:22:19.340 and make

00:22:21.900 more money

00:22:22.340 on the house.

00:22:22.760 So it would

00:22:23.040 actually cause

00:22:23.600 inflation in

00:22:24.360 housing that

00:22:25.080 is already

00:22:25.480 out of control.

00:22:28.340 Excellent.

00:22:29.780 The next one,

00:22:31.060 which is kind

00:22:31.660 of near and

00:22:32.160 dear to my

00:22:32.540 heart,

00:22:33.300 wage and

00:22:33.960 price controls.

00:22:35.460 We tried

00:22:36.380 this under

00:22:37.540 Richard Nixon.

00:22:39.020 Actually,

00:22:39.400 it was

00:22:39.920 Treasury

00:22:40.720 Secretary

00:22:41.180 and former

00:22:42.080 Texas

00:22:42.560 Governor

00:22:43.000 John Connolly

00:22:44.180 who talked

00:22:45.220 Nixon into

00:22:46.100 both closing

00:22:47.080 the gold

00:22:47.560 window and

00:22:48.560 also wage

00:22:49.560 and price

00:22:50.000 controls.

00:22:50.840 That didn't

00:22:51.400 work very

00:22:51.800 well,

00:22:52.160 did it?

00:22:53.520 Not very

00:22:54.280 well,

00:22:54.620 man.

00:22:55.660 But you

00:22:56.320 and I,

00:22:57.000 we've seen

00:22:57.440 our dollar,

00:22:58.220 $100 today

00:22:59.120 is worth

00:22:59.520 about $9

00:23:00.080 in our

00:23:01.620 lifetime.

00:23:03.080 I've lost

00:23:03.380 90% of

00:23:04.920 our money,

00:23:05.360 maybe more

00:23:05.860 than that.

00:23:07.400 Now,

00:23:07.620 the $100

00:23:08.260 still says

00:23:09.080 it's worth

00:23:09.420 $100.

00:23:09.980 The $100

00:23:10.320 bill still

00:23:11.460 says $100.

00:23:12.220 It was

00:23:12.340 printed in

00:23:12.760 1958.

00:23:14.900 But,

00:23:15.600 you know,

00:23:16.360 I can only

00:23:17.160 buy $10

00:23:17.680 worth of

00:23:18.180 goods and

00:23:18.500 services.

00:23:19.180 It's backed

00:23:19.660 by nothing.

00:23:20.620 And it's

00:23:21.060 still the

00:23:21.520 most powerful

00:23:22.300 piece of

00:23:22.860 paper on

00:23:23.360 planet Earth

00:23:23.980 because our

00:23:24.800 military is so

00:23:25.540 strong.

00:23:27.960 So,

00:23:28.140 despite how,

00:23:29.060 you know,

00:23:29.600 it's a trick,

00:23:31.580 right?

00:23:32.020 This also,

00:23:33.400 Roger,

00:23:33.640 speaks to what

00:23:34.440 I sent

00:23:34.740 Donald Trump a

00:23:35.600 letter and

00:23:35.980 just said,

00:23:36.400 hey,

00:23:36.560 look,

00:23:36.740 I would

00:23:37.060 like to

00:23:37.440 help you

00:23:37.860 on day

00:23:38.280 one,

00:23:39.320 educate

00:23:39.880 America,

00:23:40.660 re-educate

00:23:41.320 America on

00:23:43.180 today's wealth

00:23:44.600 building to

00:23:45.600 create the

00:23:46.380 largest,

00:23:48.020 most prosperous

00:23:49.000 middle class

00:23:49.980 on the

00:23:51.680 planet.

00:23:52.640 Educate all

00:23:53.160 people,

00:23:53.560 88 years

00:23:54.200 old,

00:23:55.000 18 years

00:23:55.880 old,

00:23:56.140 and 8

00:23:56.360 years old.

00:23:56.860 Don't do it

00:23:57.300 through the

00:23:57.560 schools,

00:23:58.000 do it through

00:23:58.360 the internet.

00:23:59.360 Use YouTube,

00:24:00.140 Facebook,

00:24:00.600 and Instagram.

00:24:01.940 The last

00:24:02.600 time this

00:24:02.960 was attempted

00:24:03.880 in this

00:24:04.240 country was

00:24:04.780 under George

00:24:05.360 Bush.

00:24:05.680 He was the

00:24:06.000 wrong person.

00:24:06.620 It was the

00:24:06.920 wrong time.

00:24:07.480 He was not

00:24:07.900 inspirational,

00:24:08.760 and we didn't

00:24:09.400 have the

00:24:09.720 distribution

00:24:10.220 platforms necessary,

00:24:11.560 social media.

00:24:12.780 Donald Trump

00:24:13.280 is the person

00:24:14.000 that could

00:24:14.340 inspire the

00:24:14.920 message.

00:24:16.320 Education

00:24:16.640 is a

00:24:17.460 problem today,

00:24:18.580 okay?

00:24:19.020 It would not

00:24:19.500 be about

00:24:19.880 financial literacy,

00:24:20.900 but it would

00:24:21.220 be about

00:24:21.600 prosperity to

00:24:22.640 literally educate.

00:24:24.080 I would like

00:24:24.500 to be the

00:24:24.880 prosperity czar

00:24:26.080 for Donald

00:24:26.740 Trump.

00:24:27.820 Guarantee all

00:24:28.760 people wealth,

00:24:29.720 not just a

00:24:30.780 middle class,

00:24:31.380 not just a

00:24:31.920 good earnings,

00:24:32.920 but how to

00:24:33.380 actually crack

00:24:34.500 the tax code

00:24:35.200 like wealthy

00:24:35.720 people do,

00:24:36.260 how to invest

00:24:36.920 the way the

00:24:37.360 wealthy people

00:24:37.920 do,

00:24:39.340 how wealthy

00:24:40.440 people make

00:24:41.300 moves that

00:24:42.180 just workers

00:24:43.560 don't know

00:24:44.160 about.

00:24:45.760 I think the

00:24:47.060 goal would be

00:24:47.620 under Donald

00:24:48.120 Trump is to

00:24:49.180 create the

00:24:49.560 most prosperous

00:24:50.540 middle and

00:24:51.660 upper middle

00:24:52.200 class that

00:24:54.660 we've ever

00:24:55.040 had in this

00:24:55.460 country.

00:24:58.660 Excellent

00:24:59.180 point.

00:24:59.580 Of course,

00:25:00.100 Robert Kennedy

00:25:00.940 I think has

00:25:01.660 been key in

00:25:03.260 identifying the

00:25:04.540 vanishing middle

00:25:05.540 class as an

00:25:07.040 issue.

00:25:07.620 I mean, to his

00:25:08.520 credit, in two

00:25:09.600 particular areas,

00:25:10.960 I think he's

00:25:11.460 brought more

00:25:12.000 public focus on

00:25:14.020 the lack of

00:25:14.620 affordable housing

00:25:15.600 than anyone in

00:25:17.860 recent memory,

00:25:19.000 and also the

00:25:20.420 vanishing middle

00:25:21.420 class with the

00:25:22.340 giant gap between

00:25:23.800 those who are

00:25:24.380 extremely poor and

00:25:25.420 those who are

00:25:26.520 extremely rich.

00:25:28.420 Troy, do you

00:25:28.820 have a question?

00:25:29.580 for our guest,

00:25:30.900 Grant Cardone,

00:25:32.040 who, just to

00:25:32.720 remind folks, he

00:25:33.560 is the head of

00:25:34.440 Cardone Capital.

00:25:35.900 He also has an

00:25:36.640 online business and

00:25:37.660 sales education

00:25:38.660 platform operation,

00:25:39.900 which has helped

00:25:41.020 over 650,000

00:25:42.980 individuals,

00:25:44.040 including many

00:25:44.920 Forbes 100

00:25:46.020 clients.

00:25:47.260 So, just use that

00:25:48.260 as an example,

00:25:49.280 that exactly what he

00:25:50.620 proposes here could

00:25:51.960 indeed work.

00:25:53.060 A question to you,

00:25:54.800 Troy.

00:25:55.700 Absolutely, sir.

00:25:56.620 So, you deal in the

00:25:57.960 world of money, and

00:25:58.820 so you know this

00:25:59.540 better than anybody.

00:26:00.880 The Trump tax cuts

00:26:02.320 passed in 2018,

00:26:03.840 they're set to

00:26:04.600 expire in 2025.

00:26:06.180 I don't think a lot

00:26:06.720 of people understand

00:26:07.660 this.

00:26:08.380 So, your average

00:26:09.540 person out there,

00:26:10.800 regardless of whether

00:26:11.640 Kamala Harris gets

00:26:12.560 what she wants,

00:26:13.540 which is actually an

00:26:14.740 increase from, you

00:26:16.620 know, where it was

00:26:17.360 before this tax cut,

00:26:19.620 if she doesn't get

00:26:20.560 that, they're still

00:26:21.180 going to go up.

00:26:21.800 I think the corporate

00:26:23.060 tax rate would go up

00:26:23.900 from 21% to 38%.

00:26:26.220 So, it's not enough

00:26:27.460 just to stop the

00:26:30.120 Kamala Harris agenda.

00:26:31.560 We actually have to

00:26:32.300 push forward in order

00:26:33.760 to preserve the tax

00:26:34.920 cuts that were

00:26:35.340 passed by President

00:26:36.060 Trump, don't we?

00:26:37.460 Yeah, 100%.

00:26:38.480 And the crazy thing

00:26:40.480 is that the multi

00:26:42.040 hundred billion

00:26:43.460 dollar companies,

00:26:44.660 these trillion

00:26:45.180 dollar machines

00:26:46.060 today, they're

00:26:47.000 paying less than

00:26:47.740 8% in taxes.

00:26:48.860 So, you know,

00:26:51.880 even when they

00:26:52.740 release this and

00:26:54.640 taxes go up,

00:26:55.860 Troy, you know,

00:26:56.980 the benefit of a

00:26:59.340 company that has

00:27:00.320 billions of dollars

00:27:01.580 is they can still

00:27:02.740 crack or use the

00:27:04.020 tax code to their

00:27:05.380 benefit that the

00:27:06.980 regular middle class

00:27:07.960 people cannot.

00:27:09.920 Because of the tax,

00:27:11.160 back when Roger and

00:27:12.260 I were growing up,

00:27:12.980 you could buy a

00:27:13.940 million dollar piece

00:27:15.020 of property and write

00:27:15.940 off the entire

00:27:16.660 million dollars.

00:27:17.620 The moment you

00:27:19.180 bought it, that's

00:27:20.140 why in 1994, when

00:27:21.400 taxes were as high

00:27:22.360 as 90, 1944, when

00:27:24.980 taxes were as high

00:27:25.960 as 90%, the rich

00:27:28.860 people still weren't

00:27:29.560 paying any taxes.

00:27:31.180 This is the big

00:27:31.880 scam that Warren

00:27:32.640 Buffett, the old

00:27:33.380 man says, I pay, I

00:27:35.400 don't pay enough in

00:27:36.260 taxes and I should

00:27:37.200 pay more.

00:27:38.260 And all these super

00:27:39.120 rich guys say this,

00:27:40.300 but I know these

00:27:41.000 people, I know what

00:27:42.200 game they're playing.

00:27:43.540 Like, I'm not, I'm

00:27:44.440 not at that level,

00:27:45.500 but I'm in that,

00:27:46.380 that atmosphere

00:27:47.480 of, of, of

00:27:49.220 hacks, where you're,

00:27:50.260 where you're hacking

00:27:50.960 the system, right?

00:27:52.080 And they're saying,

00:27:53.060 hey, I should pay

00:27:54.320 more taxes, but I'm

00:27:55.580 not because I don't

00:27:57.120 earn income.

00:27:58.160 I own assets.

00:28:00.440 Which brings me back

00:28:01.460 to that capital gains

00:28:02.460 thing, you know,

00:28:03.100 taxing unsold

00:28:04.900 properties.

00:28:05.520 That, that can never

00:28:06.160 happen.

00:28:06.620 I mean, it would, it

00:28:08.660 would never be passed

00:28:09.500 by anyone on either

00:28:10.720 side.

00:28:11.480 Nancy Pelosi would

00:28:12.360 get crushed in that.

00:28:13.280 And we know she's

00:28:14.060 been stealing because

00:28:15.720 financially you cannot

00:28:16.720 make, you know, you

00:28:18.520 can't, you can't do

00:28:19.160 the math where you

00:28:19.800 make $179,000 a year

00:28:22.260 and you end up being

00:28:22.900 worth $200 million.

00:28:24.240 There is no math to

00:28:25.320 that.

00:28:26.300 She'd need about

00:28:26.960 3,000 years.

00:28:30.220 You know, the sad

00:28:31.220 truth here, and I

00:28:31.960 think we all know it

00:28:32.920 is Kamala Harris is

00:28:35.860 reading off a sheet of

00:28:37.120 paper written by

00:28:37.860 someone else.

00:28:39.080 In other words, these

00:28:39.460 are not her views.

00:28:40.620 These are not things

00:28:41.940 that she's learned

00:28:42.880 through a career in

00:28:44.240 public service.

00:28:45.360 She's being fed what

00:28:46.980 to say by others.

00:28:48.640 This is why she won't

00:28:49.740 do a press conference,

00:28:50.840 why she won't do a

00:28:51.920 one-on-one interview,

00:28:54.000 why she hoped, they

00:28:55.540 hoped to hide her the

00:28:57.040 way they hid Joe

00:28:58.280 Biden for the closing

00:28:59.300 months of the last

00:29:00.860 presidential election.

00:29:02.160 Personally, I don't

00:29:03.040 think it will work,

00:29:04.180 meaning I think the

00:29:05.660 American people need

00:29:06.600 to feel like they know

00:29:07.800 their president, at

00:29:09.060 least somewhat.

00:29:09.760 But they certainly

00:29:10.880 know Donald Trump

00:29:11.720 because he's so

00:29:12.540 incredibly accessible.

00:29:14.700 I don't believe that

00:29:16.520 she can get away

00:29:17.340 with hiding for the

00:29:20.160 balance of this

00:29:22.080 campaign.

00:29:23.920 I'm very, I want to

00:29:25.940 point out, by the way,

00:29:26.820 that Grant Cardone is

00:29:28.340 a man who has given

00:29:29.340 back.

00:29:29.860 It's not just that he's

00:29:30.620 been an enormous

00:29:31.360 financial success.

00:29:32.900 It's not just that he

00:29:33.700 has helped others to

00:29:35.160 be an enormous

00:29:36.080 financial success.

00:29:38.180 but he has helped

00:29:40.040 thousands of people

00:29:41.600 through the Grant

00:29:42.200 Cardone Foundation, a

00:29:43.820 nonprofit organization

00:29:45.080 dedicated to mentoring

00:29:46.440 underprivileged and

00:29:47.760 troubled young people

00:29:49.400 and teaching them

00:29:50.580 about finances.

00:29:52.240 So our hat is off to

00:29:53.880 you, Grant.

00:29:55.300 Troy, another question

00:29:56.300 for our guest.

00:29:57.000 Absolutely.

00:29:58.560 So as far as, you

00:30:00.420 know, this election

00:30:01.080 goes, I'm wondering

00:30:02.320 how you think things

00:30:04.000 are going to go as far

00:30:04.860 as the tax code

00:30:05.680 because, you know, we

00:30:06.960 have kind of two

00:30:07.640 directions here.

00:30:08.500 We have more

00:30:10.000 regulations, you know,

00:30:11.760 higher taxes, less

00:30:13.300 regulations, lower

00:30:14.740 taxes, and how that

00:30:16.460 would happen.

00:30:16.840 I mean, if Kamala Harris

00:30:18.120 is to get into office,

00:30:19.480 let's just say it happens

00:30:20.380 hypothetically, and she

00:30:21.680 gets everything she wants,

00:30:22.780 this would totally

00:30:23.740 collapse the U.S.

00:30:24.700 economy, wouldn't I?

00:30:25.460 I mean, this would be

00:30:26.220 like the final nail in

00:30:27.560 the coffin, wouldn't

00:30:28.280 it?

00:30:29.440 Yeah, look, I don't

00:30:30.320 think there's a final

00:30:31.040 nail in the coffin of

00:30:32.080 the United States

00:30:32.760 economy because we're

00:30:34.040 the greatest consumer

00:30:35.080 economy on planet

00:30:36.680 Earth.

00:30:37.180 It is more difficult to

00:30:39.260 create the economy

00:30:40.060 that we have in

00:30:40.780 America than it is a

00:30:41.760 manufacturing economy.

00:30:43.680 So I don't think

00:30:44.420 there's a nail in the

00:30:45.360 coffin of America.

00:30:46.500 I do think they can

00:30:49.040 ruin the opportunity in

00:30:50.260 this country.

00:30:51.580 Like, if you study, I

00:30:52.600 heard Bill Clinton say

00:30:53.520 the other night, Roger,

00:30:54.320 I'm sure you heard him

00:30:55.080 sit there, lie about

00:30:56.040 the Democrats have

00:30:58.120 created 50 million jobs

00:30:59.580 while Republicans have

00:31:00.600 only created 1 million

00:31:01.800 jobs.

00:31:02.220 This is complete.

00:31:04.140 This is why I think the

00:31:05.160 Democratic leadership

00:31:06.200 believes their people are

00:31:07.620 stupid, that they can't

00:31:09.340 do basic math.

00:31:10.880 If you look at a graph

00:31:12.380 from 1971 to 2008,

00:31:15.420 that's 28 years.

00:31:18.000 Republicans were in

00:31:19.120 control of the U.S.

00:31:20.940 government for 20 of

00:31:22.640 28 years.

00:31:24.380 The middle class graph

00:31:25.760 is like this.

00:31:26.660 Expansion of income,

00:31:27.920 expansion of wealth,

00:31:29.620 expansion of property.

00:31:30.760 It's literally a graph

00:31:31.800 that looks just like

00:31:32.560 this.

00:31:32.820 This is just a fact.

00:31:34.880 It's a number.

00:31:35.820 Numbers don't lie,

00:31:36.560 people lie.

00:31:38.100 From 2008 until

00:31:39.660 2024, 16 years,

00:31:42.280 where Democrats were

00:31:43.320 in charge, 12,

00:31:44.600 the graph goes like

00:31:45.700 this.

00:31:46.120 So, you see,

00:31:48.060 they hide behind jobs,

00:31:49.900 but they never talk

00:31:51.880 about the real W

00:31:52.920 that matters,

00:31:53.940 wealth.

00:31:55.480 Okay, it's not about

00:31:56.280 a J, it's about a W.

00:31:58.220 Families in America

00:31:59.160 need wealth.

00:32:00.180 They need property.

00:32:01.220 They need assets,

00:32:02.320 not bracelets.

00:32:03.600 They need property

00:32:05.320 rights and ownership.

00:32:06.540 They need passive

00:32:07.340 forms of income,

00:32:08.820 not just earned income

00:32:10.640 where they trade their

00:32:11.660 time for money,

00:32:12.900 which is taxed.

00:32:13.900 So, yeah,

00:32:15.840 the tax code

00:32:16.580 should not be touched.

00:32:17.840 It should be lowered.

00:32:19.380 Corporate tax should be lowered.

00:32:20.660 We're higher than

00:32:21.220 most countries today.

00:32:23.080 But number two,

00:32:24.860 and most importantly,

00:32:25.940 is the American

00:32:27.420 middle class

00:32:28.380 need to be taught.

00:32:31.720 It needs to be mandatory,

00:32:33.120 like critical race theory

00:32:34.360 they're pushing.

00:32:34.920 They need to push

00:32:36.220 critical wealth

00:32:37.700 policy

00:32:40.380 to where every person

00:32:42.260 in America

00:32:42.860 would be provided

00:32:46.300 with free education

00:32:47.600 or free

00:32:48.840 using the internet,

00:32:50.020 using distribution

00:32:50.920 of Facebook

00:32:51.600 and Instagram

00:32:52.600 and YouTube

00:32:53.300 and Google.

00:32:54.300 Use those distribution

00:32:55.580 channels to educate

00:32:56.820 everyday people

00:32:58.180 how they can create wealth

00:32:59.520 in this great country

00:33:00.600 we live in.

00:33:03.400 It's interesting

00:33:04.540 when the

00:33:05.380 Bureau of Labor

00:33:07.180 Statistics

00:33:08.560 first reported

00:33:10.120 818,000

00:33:12.000 new jobs

00:33:12.720 created.

00:33:13.300 I had

00:33:14.220 Barry Habib,

00:33:15.860 who's a recognized

00:33:16.860 housing

00:33:17.620 and mortgage expert,

00:33:18.920 also one of the

00:33:19.960 smartest guys I know,

00:33:21.520 and he said,

00:33:22.240 they're going to have to

00:33:23.500 restate these numbers.

00:33:24.940 They're wrong.

00:33:26.240 And, of course,

00:33:27.300 they did.

00:33:28.160 The other point

00:33:28.860 that Barry points out,

00:33:30.440 of course,

00:33:30.720 is that wage growth

00:33:32.380 during the Trump years

00:33:34.600 was set records,

00:33:36.220 whereas wage growth

00:33:37.840 in the Biden-Harris years

00:33:39.660 has been

00:33:40.100 essentially flat.

00:33:42.300 Your thoughts, Grant?

00:33:44.080 Yeah, well, that's true.

00:33:45.040 I mean, again,

00:33:45.660 numbers don't lie.

00:33:47.380 So, unfortunately,

00:33:48.700 people could see more money,

00:33:49.900 but they're not

00:33:50.380 using inflation.

00:33:51.500 You have to,

00:33:53.020 people have to understand

00:33:54.060 what inflation is

00:33:54.960 because it's invisible.

00:33:56.380 Troy's worried

00:33:57.160 about taxes.

00:33:57.980 I'm more worried

00:33:58.600 about inflation

00:33:59.240 than I am taxes.

00:34:00.720 Taxes,

00:34:01.560 taxes I can actually

00:34:03.480 accommodate for,

00:34:04.860 I can invest around,

00:34:06.860 I can start playing

00:34:07.800 some little games with.

00:34:11.780 Inflation, man,

00:34:12.560 it's hard to beat.

00:34:14.060 It's hard to,

00:34:15.020 it's hard to,

00:34:15.680 because it's invisible.

00:34:16.740 It's like COVID.

00:34:17.940 You notice, Roger,

00:34:18.800 when COVID ended,

00:34:20.160 when America no longer

00:34:21.360 bought the COVID story,

00:34:23.160 they tried Ukraine.

00:34:24.300 We went to Ukraine.

00:34:25.400 That was invisible.

00:34:26.420 We couldn't really see it

00:34:27.320 here in America.

00:34:28.080 And when that didn't sell,

00:34:29.860 they went to inflation.

00:34:31.340 Invisible.

00:34:32.240 How do you even talk about it?

00:34:33.460 I'll guarantee you,

00:34:34.600 Kamala Harris

00:34:35.240 could not explain

00:34:36.240 what inflation is

00:34:38.040 and how it affects

00:34:39.260 an everyday family.

00:34:42.460 And we need somebody

00:34:43.620 right now

00:34:44.100 at this critical time

00:34:45.660 in our economy, man.

00:34:46.900 Like, we need somebody

00:34:47.940 that at least understands

00:34:49.700 wealth creation,

00:34:52.480 wealth preservation,

00:34:53.180 and how we as Americans

00:34:55.400 can all continue

00:34:56.440 to get rich,

00:34:57.060 particularly with all

00:34:57.840 this new technology

00:34:58.640 coming like AI.

00:34:59.800 It's going to affect

00:35:00.620 a lot of jobs

00:35:01.220 in this country.

00:35:01.840 Right?

00:35:03.460 You know, I've got an idea.

00:35:04.840 How about a businessman

00:35:05.720 for president?

00:35:07.200 Someone who created

00:35:08.300 thousands of jobs

00:35:09.200 before he got into politics,

00:35:10.600 who understands

00:35:11.440 what it's like

00:35:12.080 to meet a payroll,

00:35:13.960 what it's like

00:35:14.720 to try to make a profit.

00:35:17.560 This is one of the things

00:35:19.120 that I love so much

00:35:20.040 about it.

00:35:21.100 He doesn't come

00:35:22.060 from the world of politics.

00:35:23.600 Yeah, what it's like

00:35:24.260 to reduce your tax bill

00:35:25.280 to zero.

00:35:25.960 Why can't we teach

00:35:27.120 that course

00:35:27.480 to every American?

00:35:28.460 By the way,

00:35:29.700 this country,

00:35:30.720 if this country could,

00:35:31.800 every American,

00:35:32.680 345 million people

00:35:34.160 did exactly

00:35:35.040 what the wealthy do

00:35:36.240 to have a zero tax bill,

00:35:38.740 this country would just

00:35:40.380 spew in prosperity

00:35:41.940 because everybody

00:35:43.720 would go to another

00:35:44.640 level of wealth.

00:35:46.660 And as long as your neighbor

00:35:47.800 has money,

00:35:48.800 you'll have money.

00:35:50.020 The moment your neighbor

00:35:51.080 on the left and right side

00:35:52.340 and across the street

00:35:53.240 are hungry,

00:35:54.300 they're scared,

00:35:55.500 they can't find

00:35:56.120 their finances,

00:35:56.780 you will suffer too

00:35:57.780 no matter how rich you are.

00:36:00.980 Yeah, I remember

00:36:01.960 when somebody leaked

00:36:03.900 Donald Trump's tax returns

00:36:05.560 and folks found out

00:36:07.500 that he had not paid

00:36:08.900 that much in taxes

00:36:10.220 but worked completely

00:36:12.380 within the tax code.

00:36:14.420 Yeah.

00:36:14.600 As if people would think

00:36:15.440 that that was stupid.

00:36:16.140 That's not stupid.

00:36:16.960 That's smart.

00:36:18.840 Which is exactly

00:36:19.860 the way he handled it.

00:36:21.640 I think they were

00:36:22.560 greatly disappointed

00:36:23.620 in the impact

00:36:25.540 of the leak

00:36:26.740 of those documents.

00:36:29.680 And to this day,

00:36:30.560 we still don't know

00:36:31.280 how his tax returns

00:36:32.840 became public.

00:36:34.360 Troy, another question

00:36:35.480 for Grant Cardone.

00:36:37.420 Can I just say something

00:36:38.220 on that, Roger?

00:36:38.980 Can I just say that

00:36:39.740 I don't think Donald

00:36:40.900 handled that very well either

00:36:42.140 because he could have

00:36:43.320 come out and just said,

00:36:44.020 guys, I do my best

00:36:44.920 not to pay

00:36:45.420 zero dollars

00:36:47.060 in federal taxes

00:36:47.900 because that money

00:36:49.080 then goes to fund

00:36:50.020 some war

00:36:50.580 in some country

00:36:51.440 that has nothing

00:36:52.280 to do with me.

00:36:53.180 He would have then

00:36:53.780 finished by saying,

00:36:54.520 by the way,

00:36:55.620 I paid

00:36:56.240 1.2 billion dollars

00:36:58.200 in property taxes.

00:36:59.400 Last year,

00:36:59.820 I paid no federal

00:37:00.660 and I paid

00:37:01.520 42 million dollars

00:37:02.740 in property taxes

00:37:03.620 right here

00:37:04.300 in my local market.

00:37:05.580 So I want to pay

00:37:06.380 property taxes.

00:37:07.280 I don't mind

00:37:07.860 supporting the local

00:37:08.740 community where I work,

00:37:10.140 where I live,

00:37:11.580 where I build a business.

00:37:13.480 I don't want to fund

00:37:14.500 Ukraine

00:37:15.060 or Afghanistan

00:37:16.240 or Vietnam.

00:37:17.820 Roger,

00:37:18.400 you and I

00:37:18.800 have seen trillions

00:37:19.860 of dollars

00:37:21.240 sent to countries

00:37:22.340 that we probably

00:37:23.000 haven't even visited.

00:37:23.920 No,

00:37:26.640 and also countries

00:37:28.240 where we don't have

00:37:29.340 any inherent interest.

00:37:31.140 I mean,

00:37:31.440 this fight

00:37:31.980 in Ukraine

00:37:32.820 is absolutely clear.

00:37:34.580 We're in violation

00:37:35.680 of two different

00:37:36.660 agreements,

00:37:37.720 the Budapest

00:37:38.560 memorandum

00:37:39.300 and the Minsk

00:37:40.200 Accords.

00:37:40.860 We have very

00:37:41.760 specifically pledged

00:37:43.120 not to push

00:37:44.340 Ukraine into NATO,

00:37:46.440 which is

00:37:46.980 Putin's real

00:37:48.100 line in the sand.

00:37:49.700 What that means,

00:37:50.520 of course,

00:37:50.800 is we've agreed

00:37:51.620 not to mount

00:37:52.680 NATO missiles

00:37:53.980 on the ground

00:37:54.920 in Ukraine

00:37:55.640 aimed at Russia

00:37:56.760 as well as

00:37:58.240 biolabs,

00:37:59.840 which the government

00:38:00.720 first admits

00:38:02.040 are there,

00:38:02.560 but then denies

00:38:03.620 are there.

00:38:04.600 No,

00:38:04.800 I don't think

00:38:05.220 that's what people

00:38:05.820 want their tax money

00:38:07.400 to be used on.

00:38:08.340 Let's move into politics

00:38:09.500 because I want

00:38:10.040 to get your views.

00:38:11.880 Your opinion

00:38:12.780 on the impact

00:38:14.260 of Robert F.

00:38:16.200 Kennedy's

00:38:16.600 historic announcement

00:38:17.680 that he was

00:38:18.880 essentially

00:38:19.580 suspending his

00:38:20.860 campaign

00:38:21.340 to endorse

00:38:22.280 Donald Trump.

00:38:23.480 The most famous

00:38:24.960 name in

00:38:25.900 Democrat

00:38:26.500 dynasty politics,

00:38:28.320 the Kennedys,

00:38:29.480 a Kennedy

00:38:30.280 endorsing the

00:38:31.340 Republican nominee

00:38:32.200 for president,

00:38:32.980 to me,

00:38:33.640 is still

00:38:34.080 breathtaking,

00:38:34.820 but I'd like to

00:38:35.340 know what you think.

00:38:36.480 Yeah,

00:38:36.660 I think it's

00:38:37.080 fantastic,

00:38:37.780 man.

00:38:37.940 I was so excited

00:38:38.700 to hear that.

00:38:39.560 You know,

00:38:39.820 I've interviewed

00:38:40.920 him and

00:38:42.020 I grew up

00:38:44.840 half my life

00:38:45.520 I was a Democrat.

00:38:46.760 I grew up

00:38:47.320 believing Democrats

00:38:48.380 were going to

00:38:48.860 take care of

00:38:49.500 the little guy.

00:38:50.420 I grew up,

00:38:51.120 you know,

00:38:51.320 my mom was

00:38:51.900 a single mom.

00:38:53.520 I remember

00:38:54.280 John Kennedy

00:38:54.980 getting assassinated.

00:38:56.600 I watched on TV

00:38:57.420 as Robert got

00:38:58.160 assassinated.

00:38:59.100 Like,

00:38:59.480 I've always been

00:39:00.260 pulled by that

00:39:01.280 bootstrap.

00:39:03.360 You know,

00:39:03.780 we're going to

00:39:04.240 help the little

00:39:05.280 guy message.

00:39:06.540 And the Kennedy

00:39:07.480 story was

00:39:08.200 phenomenal.

00:39:08.820 First Catholic

00:39:09.440 family to be

00:39:10.160 a president

00:39:10.680 in politics.

00:39:12.700 And when he

00:39:13.900 came out,

00:39:14.360 man,

00:39:14.500 I was like,

00:39:15.000 oh my God,

00:39:15.440 this could be

00:39:16.880 a death blow

00:39:17.620 to the

00:39:18.760 Kamala thing.

00:39:22.740 Okay.

00:39:24.480 And

00:39:25.000 I also love

00:39:26.760 it that

00:39:27.080 Robert's

00:39:28.300 so focused

00:39:30.380 on this

00:39:31.000 vaccine thing

00:39:32.420 that everybody

00:39:33.940 says there's

00:39:34.940 no reality

00:39:35.680 on.

00:39:36.540 Like,

00:39:37.040 if you look

00:39:37.440 at the number

00:39:37.920 of shots

00:39:38.560 that babies

00:39:40.380 are given

00:39:40.920 today,

00:39:41.240 my kids

00:39:41.620 have never

00:39:41.980 had a

00:39:42.580 shot,

00:39:43.360 much less

00:39:43.960 the,

00:39:44.760 I don't

00:39:44.920 know,

00:39:45.080 there's

00:39:45.260 like 140

00:39:46.580 shots now.

00:39:49.660 So I'm

00:39:50.340 excited about

00:39:50.860 that.

00:39:51.120 I'm excited

00:39:51.520 about him

00:39:52.180 focusing on

00:39:53.460 the food

00:39:53.840 supply.

00:39:54.400 I think

00:39:54.600 he's going

00:39:54.900 to wake

00:39:55.240 Mr.

00:39:55.940 Trump up

00:39:56.380 to a lot

00:39:56.860 of stuff

00:39:57.300 that's going

00:39:57.860 on that

00:39:58.300 Donald

00:39:58.640 maybe has

00:39:59.240 not been

00:39:59.640 looking at,

00:40:00.260 including

00:40:00.600 the vaccines

00:40:01.500 and including

00:40:03.340 the food

00:40:03.780 supply.

00:40:04.300 we probably

00:40:06.060 have a

00:40:06.440 $4 trillion

00:40:07.440 problem in

00:40:08.640 this country

00:40:09.840 with obesity,

00:40:12.560 diabetes,

00:40:13.940 because of

00:40:16.780 our food

00:40:17.100 supply.

00:40:17.620 It's never

00:40:17.960 been confronted.

00:40:19.680 Big Pharma

00:40:20.240 and the food

00:40:20.840 companies,

00:40:21.580 and I know

00:40:21.900 this sounds

00:40:22.320 conspiratorial,

00:40:23.440 but something's

00:40:24.960 wrong here.

00:40:26.980 There's something

00:40:27.660 wrong because

00:40:28.240 you can go to

00:40:29.140 Italy or you

00:40:29.780 can go to

00:40:30.220 France and you

00:40:30.920 can eat as

00:40:31.340 much as you

00:40:31.840 want and you

00:40:33.000 don't feel

00:40:33.420 and look bad.

00:40:34.300 Eat the

00:40:36.260 same way

00:40:36.640 here in

00:40:36.920 America and

00:40:37.480 you're going

00:40:37.700 to be

00:40:37.900 overweight,

00:40:38.520 you're going

00:40:38.700 to feel

00:40:39.020 sick,

00:40:39.500 you're going

00:40:39.680 to be

00:40:39.860 lethargic,

00:40:40.880 foggy head,

00:40:41.920 something.

00:40:42.400 And I'm

00:40:42.760 hoping Robert

00:40:43.240 really brings

00:40:43.840 that to

00:40:44.280 the people's

00:40:44.900 attention.

00:40:46.500 You know,

00:40:47.000 I really

00:40:47.300 think that

00:40:48.340 this is a

00:40:49.180 breakthrough

00:40:49.540 because I

00:40:50.520 haven't spoken

00:40:51.160 to Robert

00:40:52.420 Kennedy,

00:40:52.780 but I have

00:40:53.200 spoken to

00:40:53.680 the president.

00:40:54.680 This is

00:40:55.080 going to be

00:40:55.360 a full

00:40:55.660 partnership.

00:40:56.480 In other

00:40:56.760 words,

00:40:57.440 this is just

00:40:58.020 not window

00:40:58.660 dressing for

00:40:59.540 a campaign.

00:41:01.080 I think

00:41:01.300 Bobby Kennedy

00:41:01.840 has really

00:41:02.520 impacted the

00:41:03.300 president's

00:41:03.780 thinking.

00:41:04.300 By bringing

00:41:06.480 him up to

00:41:07.140 date on

00:41:07.720 things that

00:41:08.100 perhaps he

00:41:08.680 was not

00:41:09.320 aware of.

00:41:10.640 I must tell

00:41:12.300 you,

00:41:12.420 when you're

00:41:12.640 in the eye

00:41:13.340 of the

00:41:13.600 storm,

00:41:14.300 when you're

00:41:14.540 in the

00:41:14.740 middle of

00:41:15.060 a presidential

00:41:15.720 campaign,

00:41:16.860 it's an

00:41:17.580 all-consuming

00:41:18.780 experience.

00:41:20.600 There really

00:41:21.140 is time for

00:41:22.180 virtually nothing

00:41:22.980 else.

00:41:23.440 There's barely

00:41:24.100 time for your

00:41:24.880 family and

00:41:25.560 church.

00:41:25.960 There's not

00:41:26.320 much time for

00:41:27.340 anything else.

00:41:28.220 I think he's

00:41:28.840 going to be

00:41:29.220 an extraordinarily

00:41:30.100 positive influence

00:41:32.580 not only on

00:41:33.980 the Trump

00:41:34.320 campaign,

00:41:34.980 but also on

00:41:35.920 a Trump

00:41:36.500 presidency.

00:41:37.420 I'm hopeful

00:41:38.140 and confident

00:41:39.400 that he'll

00:41:40.320 end up in

00:41:40.960 a high-level

00:41:42.700 position where

00:41:43.740 he has real

00:41:44.480 authority.

00:41:45.600 I think he's

00:41:46.300 zeroing in on

00:41:47.740 the poisoning of

00:41:48.700 our food supply.

00:41:50.380 The time here

00:41:51.180 could not be

00:41:52.340 better because

00:41:53.140 the entire issue

00:41:54.400 needs more

00:41:55.520 attention.

00:41:55.940 All right,

00:41:56.760 you've been

00:41:57.020 very generous

00:41:57.640 with your

00:41:58.200 time.

00:41:58.580 Grant,

00:41:58.720 we're going

00:41:58.880 to ask you

00:41:59.200 one more

00:41:59.540 question,

00:42:00.000 then we're

00:42:00.340 going to

00:42:00.480 let you

00:42:00.780 go.

00:42:01.760 What would

00:42:02.400 you tell a

00:42:03.480 young person

00:42:04.140 today who's

00:42:05.380 just starting

00:42:06.160 out in business?

00:42:06.880 If you had

00:42:07.160 one piece of

00:42:08.120 advice, what

00:42:09.340 would that be?

00:42:11.460 Don't hang

00:42:12.060 out with your

00:42:12.560 peers.

00:42:14.660 Okay, reach

00:42:15.360 up the food

00:42:15.920 chain, go to

00:42:16.680 10 years older,

00:42:18.360 people that are

00:42:19.080 in business.

00:42:20.700 I mean, I

00:42:21.240 wouldn't give

00:42:21.580 them one piece

00:42:22.040 of advice.

00:42:22.760 No drugs,

00:42:23.560 no weekends,

00:42:24.400 no girls if

00:42:25.240 you're a boy,

00:42:25.700 no boys if

00:42:27.020 you're a girl,

00:42:27.580 leave them

00:42:27.860 alone, get

00:42:28.740 your money

00:42:29.080 right, don't

00:42:29.940 go to

00:42:30.240 college, and

00:42:32.000 don't waste

00:42:32.420 your time on

00:42:32.880 weekends.

00:42:33.480 No drugs,

00:42:34.040 no alcohol.

00:42:36.440 Excellent

00:42:36.880 advice, excellent

00:42:38.040 advice.

00:42:38.860 All right,

00:42:39.380 Grant Cardone,

00:42:40.600 thank you for

00:42:41.660 much for joining

00:42:42.180 us today on

00:42:43.300 The Stone

00:42:43.700 Zone.

00:42:44.300 You've been

00:42:44.500 very generous

00:42:45.020 with your

00:42:45.400 time.

00:42:46.220 We are big

00:42:46.640 fans here at

00:42:47.280 The Stone

00:42:47.600 Zone.

00:42:47.940 God bless

00:42:48.360 you and

00:42:49.020 Godspeed.

00:42:50.080 Thank you,

00:42:50.440 Roger.

00:42:52.440 All right,

00:42:53.120 folks, Grant

00:42:53.840 Cardone, one of

00:42:54.660 the best-known

00:42:55.300 entrepreneurs in

00:42:56.820 the country

00:42:57.420 joining us

00:42:58.340 today.

00:42:59.100 I think he

00:42:59.580 decimated the

00:43:01.160 Kamala Harris

00:43:02.200 economic plan.

00:43:04.420 What did you

00:43:04.720 think, Troy?

00:43:06.680 Well, you know,

00:43:07.380 Roger, he did a

00:43:07.920 great job, and

00:43:08.940 we have a lot of

00:43:09.900 problems with the

00:43:11.240 economic plan.

00:43:12.080 I think, chiefly,

00:43:13.600 that we continue to

00:43:14.520 punish people in

00:43:15.200 this country for,

00:43:16.160 you know, doing

00:43:16.740 better.

00:43:17.440 You know, I think

00:43:18.060 it's a, you know,

00:43:18.880 we look at the

00:43:19.380 system and we

00:43:20.000 wonder, what's wrong

00:43:21.000 with it?

00:43:21.260 What's wrong with

00:43:21.660 it?

00:43:21.720 It never seems

00:43:22.460 to actually get

00:43:23.020 better, and that's

00:43:24.000 because we're

00:43:24.360 punishing the

00:43:24.960 people that are

00:43:25.460 actually doing the

00:43:26.340 work.

00:43:26.780 We're punishing

00:43:27.140 the people that

00:43:28.540 are actually, you

00:43:29.920 know, working for

00:43:31.760 a living.

00:43:32.160 And I think, you

00:43:33.020 know, there's

00:43:33.320 something I wanted

00:43:33.720 to ask you about,

00:43:34.460 Roger.

00:43:34.660 There's been some

00:43:35.380 things that Trump

00:43:35.980 has talked about,

00:43:36.680 actually, with

00:43:37.760 eliminating possibly

00:43:39.400 the income tax in

00:43:40.520 total, possibly

00:43:41.540 bringing it down to

00:43:42.300 maybe a flat tax

00:43:43.360 of 10% or so.

00:43:45.600 And my question to

00:43:46.500 you is, you know,

00:43:47.280 we saw radical tax

00:43:48.880 reform in the right

00:43:49.720 way during the

00:43:50.940 first Trump

00:43:51.580 administration.

00:43:52.580 Do you think that

00:43:53.100 he will double down

00:43:53.980 and go even further

00:43:54.980 this time with tax

00:43:56.400 cuts for the

00:43:57.800 everyday working

00:43:59.060 American?

00:43:59.560 Because to me, this

00:44:00.660 is the issue for

00:44:01.320 people, because a

00:44:02.800 lot of people,

00:44:03.960 regardless of where

00:44:04.820 they're from, have

00:44:06.220 not had that, or

00:44:07.700 at least some people

00:44:08.300 have not had that

00:44:09.200 discussion with their

00:44:10.460 family at the

00:44:11.220 kitchen table as to

00:44:12.440 how they're going to

00:44:12.980 pay the IRS and not

00:44:14.240 go to jail.

00:44:15.520 And a lot of people

00:44:16.960 in this country maybe

00:44:18.380 haven't had that

00:44:19.000 discussion, but the

00:44:19.700 people that I

00:44:20.280 know, the millions

00:44:21.220 of people that sit

00:44:21.920 with their families

00:44:23.260 for dinner every

00:44:24.380 night, they have

00:44:24.980 that conversation

00:44:25.720 every single year.

00:44:27.300 And I'm just

00:44:27.800 interested, do you

00:44:28.320 think that he'll

00:44:28.760 double down on this

00:44:29.580 tax policy and go

00:44:30.460 even further?

00:44:33.160 Look, I think

00:44:34.220 Donald Trump

00:44:35.080 understands the same

00:44:36.480 thing President

00:44:37.100 John F.

00:44:37.660 Kennedy understood,

00:44:38.480 the same thing

00:44:38.920 Ronald Reagan

00:44:39.580 understood, and

00:44:40.580 that is tax cuts

00:44:42.160 spur economic growth

00:44:44.000 and economic

00:44:44.520 activity.

00:44:45.660 One of the great

00:44:46.480 falsehoods always put

00:44:48.260 forward by the left

00:44:49.300 is that these tax

00:44:50.880 cuts are what

00:44:51.660 cause the deficit.

00:44:53.720 Now, deficits are

00:44:54.820 caused by spending.

00:44:56.620 Government revenues

00:44:57.620 increased every year

00:44:59.820 after JFK cut

00:45:02.780 taxes, after

00:45:03.900 Ronald Reagan cut

00:45:04.920 taxes, and after

00:45:06.080 Donald Trump cut

00:45:07.760 taxes.

00:45:08.480 The problem is not

00:45:09.260 a tax problem,

00:45:10.520 the problem, a tax

00:45:11.700 cut problem, the

00:45:12.780 problem is a spending

00:45:14.640 problem.

00:45:15.960 And again, the only

00:45:18.280 candidate for

00:45:19.000 president in this

00:45:19.920 cycle who's talked

00:45:20.760 about the national

00:45:21.580 debt and what to

00:45:22.680 do about it is,

00:45:24.020 interestingly enough,

00:45:25.180 Robert Kennedy.

00:45:26.180 Again, another reason

00:45:27.080 why I think he's

00:45:27.600 going to be a great

00:45:28.740 influence in not only

00:45:30.500 on the dialogue in

00:45:31.900 the campaign, but

00:45:32.620 also on the next

00:45:35.580 administration.

00:45:36.960 All right, let's go

00:45:37.940 back to your trove

00:45:39.080 of videos.

00:45:39.880 We've got about a

00:45:40.700 little less than 15

00:45:41.540 minutes, but let's

00:45:42.740 continue our political

00:45:43.640 discussion.

00:45:45.000 Well, Roger, we

00:45:46.060 have a few things

00:45:47.040 that I wanted to

00:45:47.920 get to.

00:45:48.360 One that is most

00:45:49.640 egregious, I think,

00:45:50.980 is the fact that

00:45:52.380 Kamala Harris is now

00:45:53.820 saying that she's

00:45:55.080 going to build a

00:45:56.200 wall on the

00:45:56.980 southern border.

00:45:57.460 Yes, that's right.

00:45:58.480 Kamala Harris has

00:45:59.380 announced in a piece

00:46:00.700 that was published,

00:46:02.240 I believe, in

00:46:03.540 Bloomberg, that she is

00:46:04.680 actually going to

00:46:05.340 build a wall on the

00:46:06.920 southern border.

00:46:08.080 And I went back and

00:46:09.400 we have some clips.

00:46:11.060 They were clips of

00:46:12.540 Kamala Harris,

00:46:13.240 basically, through the

00:46:14.700 years, calling Trump's

00:46:16.320 wall a medieval, a

00:46:18.200 stunt, saying that

00:46:19.420 she would never

00:46:19.980 support a wall on

00:46:21.680 the southern border.

00:46:22.760 We have those clips.

00:46:23.960 And then I want to

00:46:24.440 get your reaction,

00:46:25.320 Roger, to Kamala

00:46:26.400 Harris stealing yet

00:46:27.460 another policy of

00:46:29.120 former President

00:46:29.720 Donald Trump.

00:46:30.720 This issue is about

00:46:33.040 a vanity project for

00:46:34.360 this president.

00:46:35.820 And it is a problem

00:46:38.740 of his own making.

00:46:41.060 Right.

00:46:41.560 And listen, when I

00:46:42.700 travel this country,

00:46:44.100 folks have plenty

00:46:44.960 enough problems that

00:46:46.020 they need their

00:46:46.480 president to focus on

00:46:47.500 instead of a wall

00:46:49.560 that, by the way,

00:46:50.640 because I was a

00:46:51.320 prosecutor for many

00:46:52.200 years, including the

00:46:53.160 attorney general of

00:46:53.760 California.

00:46:54.040 I specialize on

00:46:55.220 transnational

00:46:55.740 criminal organizations.

00:46:56.560 That wall ain't

00:46:58.500 going to stop them.

00:46:59.400 No.

00:46:59.600 No.

00:47:00.700 No.

00:47:02.020 No.

00:47:05.520 And folks, on the

00:47:11.980 subject of

00:47:12.540 transnational

00:47:13.160 gangs, let's be

00:47:14.200 perfectly clear.

00:47:16.480 The president's

00:47:17.840 medieval vanity

00:47:19.180 project is not going

00:47:20.420 to stop them.

00:47:21.220 Let me be very

00:47:22.340 clear.

00:47:22.640 I'm not going to

00:47:23.100 vote for a wall

00:47:23.660 under any

00:47:24.160 circumstances.

00:47:25.100 And I do support

00:47:25.860 border security.

00:47:26.800 And if we want to

00:47:27.380 talk about that,

00:47:28.200 let's do that.

00:47:29.240 Roger, what do you

00:47:29.820 think about Kamala

00:47:30.480 Harris stealing yet

00:47:31.460 another policy of

00:47:33.300 former President

00:47:33.860 Trump?

00:47:34.220 It started with the

00:47:35.060 tax on tips.

00:47:35.840 Now we're at the

00:47:36.400 border wall.

00:47:36.960 What's next?

00:47:38.680 Yeah, I guess the

00:47:39.780 Democrats are counting

00:47:40.900 on the fact that,

00:47:42.020 well, I guess they

00:47:42.620 think the American

00:47:43.160 people are stupid.

00:47:45.100 This this

00:47:46.120 insistence that

00:47:47.880 she's going to

00:47:48.820 hire hundreds of

00:47:50.280 additional border

00:47:51.860 security agents

00:47:53.200 that he's she's

00:47:54.420 going to her

00:47:54.900 words, crack

00:47:55.800 down and seal

00:47:56.900 our border.

00:47:58.500 She was in

00:47:59.100 charge of the

00:47:59.920 border.

00:48:00.920 Maybe the Biden

00:48:01.880 administration didn't

00:48:02.800 use the title

00:48:03.740 czar, but they

00:48:05.060 certainly used it

00:48:05.820 at ABC and

00:48:06.820 NBC.

00:48:07.560 And even those

00:48:08.540 news organizations

00:48:09.380 are trying to

00:48:10.260 help her kind

00:48:12.120 of rewrite

00:48:13.140 history like she

00:48:14.280 was.

00:48:14.640 No, she was

00:48:15.040 never really

00:48:15.440 in charge.

00:48:15.960 Yes, she was

00:48:16.960 in charge.

00:48:18.140 You have to

00:48:19.080 have a

00:48:20.180 complete

00:48:20.620 suspension of

00:48:21.700 everything, you

00:48:22.460 know, to buy

00:48:23.860 the underlying

00:48:25.020 premise of their

00:48:26.040 campaign, which is

00:48:27.000 that she is the

00:48:28.240 answer to the

00:48:28.960 country's problems.

00:48:30.200 She isn't the

00:48:30.760 answer to the

00:48:31.420 country's problems.

00:48:32.800 She caused the

00:48:33.980 country's problems.

00:48:35.840 This this idea,

00:48:36.980 for example, that

00:48:37.780 border crossings

00:48:39.300 were lower under

00:48:40.880 Joe Biden than

00:48:41.960 they were under

00:48:42.660 Donald Trump.

00:48:43.500 It's simply not

00:48:45.100 true.

00:48:45.540 or that there's

00:48:48.380 so many of

00:48:49.000 these that it's

00:48:50.060 hard to keep

00:48:51.040 count that they

00:48:52.640 created more

00:48:53.500 jobs than

00:48:54.380 Donald Trump.

00:48:55.480 Not only did

00:48:56.320 they have to

00:48:56.800 restate the

00:48:57.640 1,800, I

00:49:01.680 guess it was

00:49:02.120 818,000 jobs,

00:49:05.740 not only did

00:49:06.260 they have to

00:49:06.800 bring the

00:49:07.180 number down

00:49:07.800 and restate

00:49:08.380 them, but they

00:49:09.240 don't tell you

00:49:09.980 that almost

00:49:10.860 600,000 of the

00:49:12.260 jobs they did

00:49:13.040 create are part-time

00:49:14.840 jobs, and that

00:49:16.100 the number of

00:49:16.980 hours worked for

00:49:18.900 all Americans has

00:49:20.080 dropped dramatically.

00:49:21.580 At the same time,

00:49:22.900 wage growth has

00:49:23.720 been entirely

00:49:24.880 flat.

00:49:26.580 Well, and we've

00:49:27.940 seen that, you

00:49:29.000 know, get worse

00:49:29.620 and worse here,

00:49:30.320 Roger, and it's

00:49:30.980 only going to get

00:49:31.500 worse as Biden

00:49:33.240 and this Harris

00:49:34.140 agenda continues.

00:49:35.180 And as I said,

00:49:36.020 folks, look,

00:49:38.120 let's just say,

00:49:39.060 let's play

00:49:39.520 hypotheticals for a

00:49:40.540 second.

00:49:41.180 Let's say that

00:49:41.900 Republicans win the

00:49:43.780 House and they

00:49:44.800 keep the House

00:49:45.560 and they win the

00:49:46.220 Senate, but Kamala

00:49:47.860 Harris is elected

00:49:49.520 president.

00:49:50.140 Well, in that

00:49:51.060 scenario, these tax

00:49:53.300 cuts would expire,

00:49:55.020 and therefore,

00:49:55.780 Roger, the corporate

00:49:56.700 tax rate would go

00:49:57.420 right back up to

00:49:58.180 38%.

00:49:59.020 All your individuals

00:50:00.360 would be paying at

00:50:01.020 least 4% more,

00:50:02.180 sometimes 10% more.

00:50:04.520 The people that

00:50:06.200 earn the least

00:50:06.960 amount would

00:50:08.000 actually be paying

00:50:08.800 more.

00:50:09.700 And this works in

00:50:11.240 reverse also.

00:50:11.900 If President Trump

00:50:12.800 were to win his

00:50:13.400 election, yet

00:50:14.060 Democrats were

00:50:14.820 able to maintain

00:50:15.440 the Senate or

00:50:16.700 take the House

00:50:17.880 of Representatives

00:50:18.480 back, that would

00:50:19.520 also mean that

00:50:20.960 legislation probably

00:50:22.140 would not get

00:50:22.860 passed and you

00:50:23.480 wouldn't see tax

00:50:24.300 cuts.

00:50:24.960 So I think for the

00:50:25.900 people out there,

00:50:26.920 the American people,

00:50:27.740 they have to

00:50:28.180 understand that

00:50:29.440 this is the

00:50:31.020 difference between

00:50:31.800 the end of our

00:50:32.620 country and maybe

00:50:35.180 the beginning of a

00:50:36.420 new era of

00:50:37.520 prosperity, Roger.

00:50:38.500 We, as you

00:50:40.040 said, we have

00:50:41.260 been fed the

00:50:42.000 lie by the

00:50:42.580 Democrat Party

00:50:43.180 that there was

00:50:43.460 tax cuts that

00:50:44.460 caused problems in

00:50:45.580 the 1980s.

00:50:46.220 No, that was

00:50:46.580 Democrat spending.

00:50:48.000 The same thing

00:50:48.920 now with the

00:50:49.520 Trump, oh, the

00:50:50.760 tax cuts, they

00:50:51.380 caused a problem.

00:50:51.880 No, that was

00:50:52.340 the Democrats and

00:50:53.860 their allies in

00:50:55.040 world government

00:50:55.700 launching a

00:50:56.240 pandemic that

00:50:57.440 siphoned off

00:50:58.260 trillions of

00:50:58.980 dollars in wealth

00:50:59.860 from people.

00:51:00.880 And I love this

00:51:01.540 thing that the

00:51:02.480 Democrats point out,

00:51:03.360 oh, Trump

00:51:03.780 created no jobs.

00:51:05.200 You know, Roger,

00:51:05.660 they love to talk

00:51:06.460 about the pandemic

00:51:07.380 unless it comes

00:51:08.360 to the jobs

00:51:09.080 numbers or facts

00:51:10.180 or statistics

00:51:10.920 surrounding the

00:51:11.600 Trump administration.

00:51:12.840 They love to

00:51:13.560 leave that out.

00:51:14.320 And we even saw

00:51:15.380 them do that with

00:51:16.120 the Biden

00:51:17.100 administration at

00:51:17.780 the beginning.

00:51:18.340 Biden would go

00:51:18.840 up there, Roger,

00:51:19.480 and he would

00:51:19.700 say, I cut the

00:51:20.620 deficit by a

00:51:21.740 trillion dollars.

00:51:22.960 Now, what

00:51:23.220 happened was the

00:51:24.060 deficit had COVID

00:51:25.880 spending expired

00:51:27.300 to the tune of a

00:51:28.100 trillion dollars.

00:51:29.120 Yet he claimed it.

00:51:30.040 The Democrats love

00:51:30.920 to play political

00:51:31.820 games with those

00:51:32.660 COVID numbers that

00:51:33.680 they basically

00:51:34.240 created in the

00:51:35.040 first place,

00:51:35.540 don't they?

00:51:35.960 Yeah, the jobs

00:51:38.540 coming back

00:51:39.400 post-COVID

00:51:40.740 pandemic are,

00:51:42.600 of course,

00:51:43.020 in their job

00:51:43.820 numbers, but

00:51:44.460 that's a natural

00:51:45.940 progression.

00:51:46.600 Those are not

00:51:47.140 jobs that they

00:51:48.660 created.

00:51:50.060 Let's see, we

00:51:50.480 have about seven

00:51:51.180 minutes left before

00:51:52.240 we've got to go.

00:51:53.300 What else do you

00:51:54.020 have on deck?

00:51:55.520 Well, Roger, we

00:51:56.080 have another clip

00:51:56.900 that I wanted to

00:51:57.520 play you because I

00:51:58.120 think it's important

00:51:59.340 that we talk about

00:52:00.300 this, and that is

00:52:01.800 President Trump's

00:52:02.900 latest statement

00:52:04.000 on the debate.

00:52:04.860 Now, we have a

00:52:06.160 clip from Ian

00:52:07.920 Sams, who is the

00:52:08.900 co-chair of the

00:52:09.940 Biden-Harris or the

00:52:11.100 Harris-Walls

00:52:11.780 campaign, whatever

00:52:12.420 you want to call

00:52:13.000 it, and he was on

00:52:14.300 MSNBC last night,

00:52:15.920 and during his

00:52:16.920 appearance, he

00:52:17.960 actually said that

00:52:18.720 Trump is playing

00:52:19.440 games, he's

00:52:20.200 attempting to back

00:52:21.280 out of the

00:52:22.120 debate, and

00:52:23.260 President Trump

00:52:23.880 issued a statement

00:52:25.060 on this yesterday.

00:52:26.640 He said that

00:52:28.360 Kamala Harris is

00:52:29.160 attempting to

00:52:29.700 change the rules

00:52:30.740 of this debate,

00:52:31.920 and this goes to

00:52:32.880 the mic.

00:52:33.440 So basically, for

00:52:34.780 folks at home to

00:52:35.660 understand this, in

00:52:37.400 the first debate, as

00:52:38.360 we talked about

00:52:39.180 constantly here on

00:52:40.440 the Stone Zone, the

00:52:41.720 mics were cut off

00:52:42.820 when a person was

00:52:43.980 not actually given

00:52:45.020 the floor to

00:52:46.580 speak.

00:52:47.180 So if Trump was

00:52:48.140 giving an answer and

00:52:48.920 Biden shouted

00:52:49.500 something, you

00:52:49.920 wouldn't hear it, and

00:52:50.680 vice versa.

00:52:51.900 Now, Trump has

00:52:53.200 said that because

00:52:54.580 they agreed to

00:52:55.840 that rule, the

00:52:57.040 same rule in the

00:52:58.280 September 10th

00:52:59.200 debate, that he

00:53:00.340 wants to hold true

00:53:01.300 to that rule.

00:53:02.480 But the Harris

00:53:03.080 campaign has made

00:53:04.020 an issue of this,

00:53:05.640 reportedly requesting

00:53:07.060 that the mics be

00:53:08.260 turned on so that

00:53:09.940 people will hear

00:53:10.860 Donald Trump.

00:53:11.460 Now, he said

00:53:12.180 publicly, look, I

00:53:13.500 don't really care if

00:53:14.160 the mics are on or

00:53:14.920 not, but we had a

00:53:15.720 set rule, we have

00:53:17.300 rules.

00:53:17.540 So we have a

00:53:17.900 president's statement

00:53:18.620 on that.

00:53:19.480 Roger, I want to

00:53:20.100 get your thoughts.

00:53:21.000 What's going on with

00:53:21.940 this debate, Mike's

00:53:23.020 situation?

00:53:23.960 Is the Harris

00:53:24.500 campaign just

00:53:25.140 kicking and screaming

00:53:26.040 their way into this

00:53:27.160 debate while accusing

00:53:28.720 Trump of backing

00:53:29.540 out?

00:53:29.700 What exactly is going

00:53:30.700 on here?

00:53:31.580 President Trump, would

00:53:32.540 you want the

00:53:33.100 microphones muted in

00:53:34.180 the debate whenever

00:53:34.780 you're not speaking?

00:53:36.080 We agreed to the

00:53:36.940 same rules.

00:53:37.640 I don't know.

00:53:38.200 It doesn't matter to

00:53:38.840 me.

00:53:39.040 I'd rather have it

00:53:39.700 probably on.

00:53:40.460 But the agreement

00:53:41.520 was that it would be

00:53:42.780 the same as it was

00:53:44.740 last time.

00:53:45.380 In that case, it was

00:53:46.400 muted.

00:53:47.740 I didn't like it the

00:53:49.180 last time, but it

00:53:50.000 worked out fine.

00:53:51.120 I mean, ask Biden

00:53:52.040 how it worked out.

00:53:52.740 It was fine.

00:53:54.020 And I think it

00:53:55.180 should be the same.

00:53:56.080 We agreed to the

00:53:56.920 same rules.

00:53:58.240 Same rules and

00:53:59.100 same specifications.

00:54:00.700 And I think that's

00:54:01.940 probably what it should

00:54:02.820 be.

00:54:03.480 But they're trying to

00:54:04.380 change it.

00:54:05.060 The truth is they're

00:54:05.800 trying to get out of

00:54:06.520 it because she doesn't

00:54:07.440 want to debate.

00:54:08.560 She's not a good

00:54:09.220 debater.

00:54:10.020 She's not a smart

00:54:10.780 person.

00:54:11.580 She doesn't want to

00:54:12.360 debate.

00:54:12.920 Let me say this.

00:54:13.580 First of all, I don't

00:54:14.280 think Kamala Harris

00:54:15.100 really wants to

00:54:16.220 debate.

00:54:17.340 I think the Trump

00:54:18.820 campaign strategy would

00:54:20.200 require her to debate

00:54:21.340 because we want to

00:54:22.500 demonstrate to people

00:54:23.300 that she cannot think

00:54:24.420 on her feet.

00:54:25.580 Without a

00:54:26.080 teleprompter, I think

00:54:27.700 she's useless and

00:54:28.860 God knows she might

00:54:30.180 start laughing.

00:54:31.260 That would be the

00:54:32.200 worst.

00:54:32.980 So I think this is

00:54:34.180 all a stall.

00:54:36.640 But the idea that

00:54:37.720 Donald Trump, who

00:54:39.220 walked into the

00:54:40.280 lion's den in CNN,

00:54:42.220 accepted their

00:54:43.360 rules with no

00:54:44.980 negotiation and I

00:54:47.320 think stuck to them

00:54:48.160 rigidly and turned in

00:54:49.340 an extraordinarily

00:54:50.000 strong debate

00:54:51.720 performance.

00:54:52.500 To say that Donald

00:54:54.260 Trump is afraid, I've

00:54:55.660 known him 45 years.

00:54:56.720 He's afraid of

00:54:57.340 nothing and nobody.

00:54:59.180 I think this is

00:54:59.960 stalling.

00:55:00.720 They're going to

00:55:01.000 stall as long as

00:55:01.840 they can because the

00:55:03.080 truth is, no matter

00:55:03.980 what they say, they

00:55:05.500 don't want a debate.

00:55:07.060 A debate is

00:55:07.800 extremely high risk

00:55:09.440 for them.

00:55:10.340 Now, that said, in

00:55:11.880 any debate format,

00:55:14.000 Trump's expectations

00:55:15.300 are going to be very

00:55:16.120 high because, let's

00:55:17.440 face it, he's a

00:55:18.680 champion debater.

00:55:19.840 I mean, he's got a

00:55:20.300 track record.

00:55:20.920 The expectation

00:55:22.040 level for her, as

00:55:23.180 with her teleprompter

00:55:24.840 based speech at the

00:55:26.020 convention, was very

00:55:27.440 low.

00:55:28.380 So, I think we have

00:55:30.300 to be somewhat

00:55:30.880 careful in that if

00:55:32.320 she doesn't fall

00:55:33.240 down or if she's not

00:55:35.240 slurring her words

00:55:36.060 because she's drunk,

00:55:37.420 the media is going

00:55:38.820 to claim this was a

00:55:39.840 great victory for her

00:55:41.220 regardless of the

00:55:42.360 actual substance of

00:55:44.500 the debates.

00:55:45.760 It is interesting to

00:55:47.640 me that we're going

00:55:49.200 back and forth.

00:55:49.980 I think we need as

00:55:51.020 many debates as we

00:55:51.980 could have.

00:55:52.900 I'd like to see

00:55:53.720 three more.

00:55:54.780 Don't think that'll

00:55:55.480 happen.

00:55:56.480 I'd be happy to have

00:55:57.620 one more.

00:55:58.220 I'm not even sure

00:55:58.820 that's going to

00:55:59.600 happen.

00:56:00.460 But the one I really

00:56:01.660 want to see is the

00:56:03.600 J.D. Vance,

00:56:05.940 Tim Wall's debate.

00:56:08.140 Now, I think J.D.

00:56:09.400 Vance gets a bum rap.

00:56:10.900 I think the attacks on

00:56:11.980 him are basically just

00:56:13.880 elitism.

00:56:14.780 It's snobbery because he

00:56:17.500 came from nothing.

00:56:18.920 I actually saw

00:56:19.940 Wall's attack him for

00:56:21.100 being a Yale graduate.

00:56:23.740 Well, to be dirt poor,

00:56:25.900 to come from nothing,

00:56:27.500 to get accepted at Yale,

00:56:29.520 that's an enormous

00:56:30.480 accomplishment.

00:56:31.640 Plus, Troy, I think you

00:56:32.740 pointed out to me, a

00:56:34.220 number of the people

00:56:34.980 around Kamala Harris and

00:56:36.800 Tim Wall's are

00:56:37.620 themselves Yale graduates.

00:56:39.620 So, this is, it's just

00:56:41.440 elitism.

00:56:43.020 It's born of snobbery.

00:56:46.200 But this is going to be

00:56:48.020 J.D. Vance's opportunity

00:56:50.180 to shine.

00:56:51.040 I've said this since he

00:56:52.380 was selected.

00:56:54.140 He's underrated.

00:56:55.760 The early attacks on him,

00:56:57.520 I think, have been unfair.

00:56:59.560 They don't tell you who he

00:57:00.540 really is.

00:57:01.420 But in this debate, you're

00:57:02.940 going to see who he really

00:57:04.760 is.

00:57:05.640 And you're going to see, I

00:57:07.200 think, his defining moment

00:57:09.520 within the context of the

00:57:11.440 presidential campaign.

00:57:12.980 In every presidential

00:57:14.320 campaign, there is a

00:57:15.400 defining moment for the

00:57:17.560 vice presidential

00:57:18.280 candidate.

00:57:19.240 1952, for Richard Nixon,

00:57:21.080 it was the so-called

00:57:23.160 secret fund, where there

00:57:25.760 was an allegation published

00:57:26.980 first in the New York

00:57:27.880 Post, which was then a

00:57:29.900 left-of-center newspaper

00:57:31.140 owned by Dorothy Schiff,

00:57:32.880 claiming that Nixon had a

00:57:34.340 secret fund that was

00:57:36.160 financed by multimillionaires

00:57:38.260 that kept he and his wife

00:57:40.420 living in a lavish

00:57:41.920 lifestyle while he served

00:57:43.380 in the U.S.

00:57:43.880 Senate.

00:57:44.900 It was a lie.

00:57:46.400 He did have a fund, but it

00:57:47.900 wasn't a secret.

00:57:49.160 The fund was used to pay

00:57:50.620 largely for mailings to

00:57:52.820 his constituents after he

00:57:55.040 had exhausted his

00:57:56.040 congressional budget, which

00:57:57.700 was 100 percent legal.

00:58:00.980 By the way, the vice

00:58:02.440 presidential running

00:58:03.740 opponent, John Sparkman of

00:58:06.040 Alabama, a hardcore

00:58:07.700 segregationist who was

00:58:09.860 Adlai Stephenson's

00:58:10.900 running mate, had a fund

00:58:12.640 that was much larger

00:58:14.960 than Nixon's, but had

00:58:16.800 actually used to, was

00:58:19.060 used to prop up a lavish

00:58:21.000 lifestyle for Senator

00:58:22.420 Sparkman and his wife.

00:58:24.300 A little historical footnote.

00:58:26.280 All right.

00:58:26.620 I'm afraid we're at the end

00:58:27.800 here.

00:58:28.380 We're looking forward to

00:58:29.880 the Trump Kamala, I

00:58:33.260 remember to pronounce that

00:58:34.340 correctly, or your racist

00:58:35.940 Troy Kamala debate.

00:58:39.080 Let's let's kind of end

00:58:41.040 it there.

00:58:41.780 We'll be back tomorrow with

00:58:43.000 more of what you love, more

00:58:44.260 politics until tomorrow.

00:58:45.740 On behalf of my co-host

00:58:47.980 Troy Smith and myself, God

00:58:50.340 bless you and Godspeed.

00:58:52.640 A man who's gone through

00:58:54.020 hell, but he's kept going

00:58:57.260 and he's smart and he's

00:58:58.720 strong and people love him.

00:59:01.400 Not everybody, but people

00:59:02.680 love him and respect him.

00:59:03.840 Roger Stone.

00:59:04.920 Where's Roger Stone?

00:59:06.020 Thank you.

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