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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.280 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.340 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:16.940 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:21.000 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.320 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.320 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:40.620 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:46.160 Only days ago, the U.S. Congress reauthorized the FISA program, Foreign Intelligence Security Court,

00:00:56.380 which essentially, theoretically, is designed to allow the government to surveil foreign terrorists.

00:01:05.040 But in the Russian collusion hoax, we saw the FISA court system abused to spy on President Donald Trump's campaign.

00:01:15.380 Specifically, a FISA warrant was applied for and approved on a man named Carter Page,

00:01:24.160 who was working on issues for Donald Trump's campaign.

00:01:29.340 Carter Page joins us today in the Stone Zone to talk about this and other things.

00:01:35.580 But to join me in welcoming him is my everyday co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news.

00:01:47.860 Troy, welcome back in to the Zone.

00:01:51.160 Roger, it's a historical day here on the Stone Zone. Proud to be here, as always.

00:01:55.580 We are really honored to have our guest today, and it could not be more timely.

00:02:02.260 Carter Page was gracious enough to be on my 77 WABC radio show last weekend.

00:02:11.340 It was the biggest show we've ever had, with one exception.

00:02:15.380 President Donald Trump had a larger audience.

00:02:18.360 But Carter Page joins us now.

00:02:22.100 Roger, thank you so much for your kind introduction.

00:02:25.000 It's great to have our third conversation.

00:02:27.540 This week is the first time since, as we recently discussed, since 2016 that I've had the chance to join you.

00:02:39.340 And so it's great to be with you, and great to meet Troy as well.

00:02:43.780 2016, Carter and I met at a book signing on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

00:02:51.100 Little did we know that both of our names would ultimately go down in history in the greatest single dirty trick in American political history,

00:03:01.620 the largest single abuse of power in which the Obama administration, with the full compliance and involvement of Vice President Joe Biden,

00:03:16.020 used the full authority of the United States government and the incredible capabilities of our intelligence services,

00:03:27.540 utilizing what they knew was fraudulent evidence, the Steele dossier,

00:03:32.760 and the false allegation that the DNC had been hacked by Russian intelligence to rationalize a completely illegitimate and illegal effort to remove a duly elected president.

00:03:50.040 Troy, did I get that about right?

00:03:51.620 I mean, this is the largest dirty trick in American history.

00:03:57.100 So, because the attention span of the American people is so short, I thought it would be useful at the top to just walk through, Carter, exactly what happened to you.

00:04:13.700 Troy has reviewed the application they made for the FISA warrant on you.

00:04:19.180 So, then I'd like to talk about how you feel about the fact that the Congress has renewed the program without major revision.

00:04:27.660 Then we'll talk some politics.

00:04:29.340 So, that's a good starting point.

00:04:31.400 Carter, tell folks how you hooked up with the Trump campaign and exactly what happened to you.

00:04:37.260 Well, Roger, it was really the greatest honor of my life that I was given the opportunity to just volunteer as a, you know, a junior person on a, just an incredible foreign policy slash national security team.

00:04:57.640 I volunteered in late 2015 and then, you know, not too long later, in March of 2016, President Trump, then candidate Trump, announced in a Washington Post editorial board meeting that myself and, you know, several others would be, would have the opportunity to help him in a, in a advisory team.

00:05:27.640 Council. So, it was, it was, it was really some of the most amazing people I've ever worked with in my life.

00:05:34.760 And, you know, again, I was just, you know, one, one guy who had, you know, done many billions of dollars of international transactions and had served in the military for many years.

00:05:47.480 But, you know, by comparison to some of my colleagues who also had the opportunity to do so, such as General Keith Kellogg and several other generals and retired admirals.

00:06:02.460 I was, you know, it was just an incredible working group.

00:06:06.440 But, but little did we know, as you're, as you're also alluding to, a lot of, a lot of dirty tricks would start happening very soon thereafter.

00:06:15.080 So, they decided to illegally surveil you.

00:06:23.620 I'm not really clear on what their probable cause was.

00:06:27.700 You were working with President Trump and his campaign, then candidate Trump and his campaign, on foreign policy issues, which is the area of your expertise.

00:06:38.200 Well, there, a lot of it is kind of a repeat of what you see on the news every day, Roger, which is one Russia hoax after another.

00:07:01.320 You know, these made up stories by both, you know, operatives related to the U.S. government on the one hand, and then driven by the fake news media, which is constantly rolling out one conspiracy theory after another about how anyone that does not support the party line is, by definition, a agent of a foreign power or a Russian agent.

00:07:29.420 So, it's just, it's just deja vu all over again, which goes directly to your point in terms of this most recent FISA renewal, which just happened only a few weeks ago.

00:07:43.120 So, it's repeat after repeat, lie after lie, and dirty trick after dirty trick, and it only gets worse over time.

00:07:51.560 Troy, you have reviewed the application that was made to the FISA court. Tell us about that.

00:08:02.960 Well, you know, Roger, it's a pretty astounding document. I just want to say, you know, Mr. Page, it's an honor to be able to speak with you and ask you questions about this, because I view this, as Roger does, and I know so many people, as a pivotal moment in American history.

00:08:15.500 It's the moment, really, when government becomes weaponized against a candidate for really, not the first time, but I think in the most egregious sense.

00:08:25.700 And while I was reviewing this document, you know, they make some pretty hefty allegations about you, and you know this, you've obviously read it yourself.

00:08:33.080 They claim in this that you were actually working on behalf of the Russian government, that you've been an unregistered agent of the Russian government for some time.

00:08:44.640 And they also allege, and this to me just seemed to be the most ridiculous claim in the whole thing.

00:08:50.460 They claimed, actually, that you were going and talking to Russian government officials and actually getting them to commit and getting the Trump campaign to commit to allowing Russian aggression in Ukraine.

00:09:05.560 Now, that's just what the document says.

00:09:08.100 I'd like you to comment on that, because they've actually made this allegation against you, and in every sense, where we actually get the facts of the document, and we actually get the facts of the matter in this document, it's blurred out, it's redacted, and we don't get to see the full document.

00:09:23.800 Could you comment on them saying that you were actually meeting with the Russians and getting things and favors for the Russians with the Trump campaign?

00:09:33.820 Well, the funny part about it is, Troy, it's literally the opposite of the case.

00:09:40.440 And what's interesting about it is, while the Democrats were, at the same time, that same year in 2016, were spending over a million dollars in terms of campaign finance violations, and actually hiring foreign spies with ties to Russian intelligence, I was actually working for our government.

00:10:08.580 Again, I'm a U.S. Naval Academy graduate.

00:10:12.640 I had worked closely with the intelligence community since my time in the Navy and in the years since, and have only been supporting the U.S. government.

00:10:24.400 And most recently, since getting out of the Navy, I was never paid one cent, not a cent, to support our government.

00:10:32.660 I was a, similar to trying to help the Trump campaign, I was just a volunteer trying to serve my country and help make America better.

00:10:43.680 But unfortunately, it was, you know, the dirty tricksters in Washington, and in the political powers that be, were just trying to interfere with U.S. elections, and to work against honorable, hardworking, proud citizens of the United States.

00:11:04.240 Well, it's, no, I was just going to say, and I think the most salacious part of this whole thing is that they've actually used this, and I've seen the media interviews with you, sir.

00:11:17.280 They actually say that it's all about you.

00:11:19.880 It's not about the Trump campaign.

00:11:21.420 This was not a ploy to spy on the Trump campaign.

00:11:24.660 It was all about Carter Page.

00:11:26.140 What do you have to say about that? 0.95

00:11:27.320 Because it seems to me pretty ridiculous. 0.92

00:11:28.720 Well, the most ridiculous thing about it, Troy, is that it's not just then.

00:11:35.280 It's a repeat of what you see time and time again, almost once a week or more, sometimes more frequently, as you and Roger were alluding to, with the most recent renewal of the FISA statute in terms of the 702 program, which is part of it.

00:11:56.400 They just make up these lies, and anyone that does not stick with the party line that we have to be a constant war with Russia or constant state of aggression, then you must, by definition, be compromised or working as a Russian agent or an agent of a foreign power.

00:12:17.200 So it's just, it's so ridiculous on the face, particularly after we've learned this the hard way, after all the abusive process, all the judicial abuses throughout the last eight plus years, it only continues and it only seems to get worse, at least for the time being.

00:12:36.740 We'll see what happens come this November and beginning next January, but at least so far, it's just a complete and utter joke.

00:12:47.200 You know, the most amazing thing about this, and Troy, I think you looked at this, is not only did they grant the application for the FISA warrant, but they renewed it multiple times long after they knew that Carter Page was not an agent of the Russian government.

00:13:05.960 Carter Page was not having conversations about Trump policy in Ukraine post-election.

00:13:17.660 This whole thing seemed to be an effort to, once you surveil Carter Page, you see, under the FISA law, you're allowed to surveil anybody Carter Page is talking to,

00:13:32.460 which would include other U.S. citizens, perhaps others involved in the campaign.

00:13:39.600 I did enjoy watching the interview in which Donald Trump asserted to Leslie Stahl of CBS that they spied on my campaign and they got caught.

00:13:52.360 She kept insisting, there's no proof of that.

00:13:54.360 We can't prove that.

00:13:55.380 No, we absolutely, positively can prove that.

00:13:58.400 That is an undisputed fact, but the media still doesn't want to talk about it.

00:14:05.060 We're going to go to a quick commercial break, but when we come back, the question I'm interested in is why none of the House Republicans invited Carter Page to testify in a hearing regarding their decision to renew the FISA warrant program.

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00:16:52.120 Welcome back.

00:16:53.160 I'm Roger Stone.

00:16:54.160 If you're just tuning in, we're here with Carter Page.

00:16:57.820 Carter Page is a man whose name went down in history

00:17:01.360 because he became the focal point of the Russian collusion homes.

00:17:07.200 We now know, based on the report that took five long years by Special Counsel John Durham,

00:17:17.060 that there was no evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion with Donald Trump's campaign for president.

00:17:24.460 Sadly, Mr. Durham never addressed the question of the alleged hack of the Democratic National Committee

00:17:33.460 by Russian intelligence, allegedly an online hack.

00:17:39.680 But the FBI admitted in my trial in pre-discovery that they had never actually inspected the computer servers of the DNC

00:17:51.060 and that they had relied entirely on the third-party claims of a company called CrowdStrike,

00:17:58.920 who maintained that the DNC had been the target of an online hack by Russian actors.

00:18:06.960 Later, when he testified under oath before the House Intelligence Committee,

00:18:13.120 Sean Henry, who just happens to be a former deputy to FBI Director Robert Mueller,

00:18:18.940 but now is the head of CrowdStrikes, admitted that his report for the DNC,

00:18:27.220 which the judge denied to my defense attorneys at trial,

00:18:32.140 contained no evidence whatsoever that the Russians had hacked the DNC.

00:18:38.400 So you have three things going on at once here.

00:18:41.300 You have the Steele dossier, which FBI general counsel Andrew Weissman,

00:18:49.140 later the de facto head of the Mueller investigation, knows is a fraud.

00:18:55.820 You have the allegations of a Trump Tower meeting with a Russian woman lawyer,

00:19:03.620 who is indeed actually working for Fusion GPS,

00:19:08.940 who gives the Trump campaign no information of any value,

00:19:12.940 no information on which they act.

00:19:15.760 It appears that just the meeting itself was a setup.

00:19:20.240 And then, of course, the false claim that they repeat over and over again,

00:19:24.940 that Paul Manafort gave proprietary poll information while he was Trump's campaign manager

00:19:33.120 to a man named Konstantin Kalimnik to pass on to the Russians or Vladimir Putin or whatever.

00:19:41.940 There's two problems with this.

00:19:43.680 First of all, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling information at this time.

00:19:49.800 They had not yet gone into the field to begin polling for the general election.

00:19:56.220 So, therefore, any polling that Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kalimnik may have discussed

00:20:01.840 would have been public information.

00:20:04.180 But secondarily, as the investigative journalist Matt Taibbi has pretty much demonstrated,

00:20:11.220 Konstantin Kalimnik is not a Russian intelligence asset.

00:20:15.320 If anything, he's more likely an American intelligence asset.

00:20:22.180 So, all of these stools of the Russian collusion hoax are bogus. 0.69

00:20:27.880 The Steele dossier, which claimed falsely that Donald Trump had cavorted with prostitutes in Moscow

00:20:35.260 when visiting in his pre-presidential days, is a complete fabrication.

00:20:41.000 The idea that Carter Page was an active agent for the Russians and that he was negotiating post-election policy

00:20:51.620 for Ukraine and Russia, that's also a falsehood.

00:20:57.440 The claim that the Russians hacked the DNC, which the intelligence agencies still cling to,

00:21:04.980 never having to put up any proof or evidence whatsoever.

00:21:09.600 And with all the forensic evidence disproving that, the Russian collusion hoax is in tatters.

00:21:18.560 But, Carter, the problem is, wait a few days and they'll just come back and recycle it all again.

00:21:23.700 It doesn't matter how rebutted, how discredited, how disproved any of their nonsense is,

00:21:34.300 they're right back to it almost immediately.

00:21:38.020 Troy, your thoughts?

00:21:40.220 Well, Roger, you know, one of the things that I reviewed here in this document, which is, you know,

00:21:45.120 I would encourage everybody to review this because it's so important.

00:21:49.340 One of the things that they make, and it's a shocking claim, and as you say, Roger,

00:21:54.240 every aspect of this has been debunked, and I think this adds something to it,

00:21:57.520 and I want to get Mr. Page's comments on this.

00:21:59.760 One of the connections that they claim in this, the first application to grant the FISA warrant to spy on him,

00:22:08.120 the first application states that one of Mr. Page's ties to Russia was through Gazprom,

00:22:14.420 which is a Russian energy company.

00:22:16.000 Of course, you have an energy background, so that's just mentioned in there, and I thought it was interesting

00:22:21.740 that during Trump's presidency, he blocked Gazprom from being able to build the Nord Stream pipeline,

00:22:27.720 but then when Joe Biden took office, Gazprom was actually able to complete this pipeline in September of 2021.

00:22:33.560 So I wanted to get your comments on that because it seems to me on its face,

00:22:37.540 they're making the argument that you assisted Trump.

00:22:40.420 Trump blocked Gazprom and the associates that they claimed you had.

00:22:44.240 I mean, it's pretty amazing.

00:22:46.680 Well, there's so much to unwrap, both with that, Troy, but also, you know,

00:22:52.980 the great points that Roger mentioned as well.

00:22:56.320 Again, you know, going back to what we were speaking about earlier,

00:22:59.640 I had helped the U.S. government, the intelligence agencies, both CIA and FBI, frankly speaking,

00:23:08.980 I can reveal now, with providing insights about, you know, the inner workings of these organizations

00:23:17.160 because, you know, I had served as an advisor, kind of, you know, working on several billion dollars of deals

00:23:23.820 with these publicly traded companies, which I actually attended a, I'm actually not far from Wall Street right now,

00:23:33.160 and, you know, went to a event at the New York Stock Exchange, you know, it was a, you know,

00:23:39.340 the American depository receipts for Gazprom were, at least back then,

00:23:45.860 traded on the New York Stock Exchange for U.S. investors.

00:23:49.480 But, you know, again, we are always trying to, you know, balance both sides and, you know,

00:23:56.180 understanding what's going on internally, but balancing risks and having a serious assessment.

00:24:03.180 And that serious assessment is precisely the opposite of the one-sided Russia hoax-related lie upon lie upon lie

00:24:12.640 that the U.S. intelligence community has been pushing since the first term of the Obama-Biden administration

00:24:19.660 back, which ended, thank God, in early 2017.

00:24:28.300 But, again, there was just so many elements to this, and it's such a deep, complicated story.

00:24:34.820 But the more you look at it, exactly as you're alluding to, Troy, the worse it gets.

00:24:39.940 And let me just touch on briefly, you know, one of the points that, you know, Roger had been speaking about.

00:24:46.380 And, you know, it relates to the, you know, the technologies and spying and, you know,

00:24:52.100 digging deeper into, you know, every aspect of a person's life.

00:24:56.480 It's like 1984.

00:24:58.660 But, again, as I've been saying, it only gets worse and worse.

00:25:02.260 Because, as we know from anyone who uses an iPhone or as, you know, a computer, like I'm speaking to you on now,

00:25:12.100 you know that technology gets better and better.

00:25:14.920 And so as these technological capabilities get better, these big tech companies, which, as you know,

00:25:22.560 are often closely aligned with the U.S. intelligence community and often working for political objectives

00:25:31.880 in conjunction with the Democrats, unfortunately, it only gets worse.

00:25:37.180 And, again, the level of extreme abuses that have been committed throughout this process,

00:25:44.880 we could go on for days talking about that.

00:25:48.000 And I did want to just very briefly, there's, again, a lot to discuss.

00:25:51.940 But with respect to the great commercial during the last commercial break with the Flynn movie,

00:25:59.840 again, he's just another, I know Roger was at that premiere down in Florida not too long ago.

00:26:07.540 And, you know, it's another perfect example of someone whose, you know, life was just turned upside down

00:26:15.200 by these extreme abuses, by elements of the U.S. government.

00:26:22.560 Carter, I'm curious, were you surprised that no one among the House Republicans asked you to come testify

00:26:30.120 when they were considering renewing the FISA program?

00:26:34.800 Roger, I'm actually, that was another point.

00:26:39.300 Again, there's so much to talk about, but I, there is, and this is the first time I've ever spoken about this.

00:26:46.360 And I have to admit, again, it was a very great disappointment with the result of that FISA reauthorization,

00:26:56.980 unfortunately, just a couple of weeks ago.

00:26:59.340 But, and I've never talked about this before, but frankly speaking, again, I've always tried to be a behind the scenes,

00:27:07.800 you know, helping out, serving my country where I can, but not looking to be in the spotlight.

00:27:14.520 And frankly speaking, I had been invited by the House Judiciary Committee to come speak about that.

00:27:21.340 But I, my thought, similar to what you're alluding to, is that this, this is, this FISA bill and FISA reauthorization

00:27:30.780 is definitely going to get reformed.

00:27:33.040 I mean, it's such a no-brainer.

00:27:34.940 It's obvious, given all the abuses against President Trump, myself, each of us with the FISA abuse,

00:27:42.380 and all of the lessons learned, as has been brought out by the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General,

00:27:50.040 reports related to the ongoing FISA abuse, not just for the handful of us, like President Trump, myself,

00:27:58.540 you, Roger, and a handful of others, but literally over 270,000 innocent Americans,

00:28:06.360 just over the last couple of years, who have, have also been negatively impacted by the FISA abuse.

00:28:16.940 So I never thought it was going to be necessary.

00:28:18.740 I always try to keep a low profile, particularly after all the death threats I faced.

00:28:24.100 And so I, I assumed that it was going to go forward, but in retrospect, frankly speaking,

00:28:30.180 and again, I've never spoken with anyone about this before, but I, I kind of, I, I definitely wish that

00:28:36.140 I had made the trip back to the Washington swamp and gone to testify and pushed harder on this,

00:28:43.720 because it's just a, a crying shame, all of the continued abuses, which have, have been allowed

00:28:51.560 to move forward as this terrible legislation from the Carter administration is once again reauthorized.

00:29:01.500 All right, we have about a little less than two minutes, so this will be our final question.

00:29:05.940 I'm interested, Carter, in the personal impact on you.

00:29:10.000 I can tell you in my case, being the target of the witch hunt, my wife and I lost everything.

00:29:16.320 We lost our home, our savings, most of our insurance, my ability to make a living.

00:29:22.900 I was gagged for almost two years, was unable to defend myself in public.

00:29:30.780 I made my living writing and speaking.

00:29:33.840 I wasn't allowed to do that.

00:29:35.700 My travel was restricted.

00:29:38.760 It was really turned our lives upside down.

00:29:41.540 How did this affect you personally?

00:29:45.280 I would say in short, Roger, I know we're short on time, but essentially exactly the same.

00:29:51.480 And again, as, as we've been talking about, it only seems to get worse and worse.

00:29:56.260 And watching President Trump in the courtroom yesterday here in lower Manhattan with him and his family, including Eric Trump there, sitting right behind him.

00:30:09.520 It's just entirely reminiscent and it's, it's such a crying shame that it has only gotten worse and worse as the Obama-Biden regime continues to roll out these, these terrible election interference campaigns against both President Trump and literally millions of Americans.

00:30:30.940 All right.

00:30:33.000 I'm afraid we have to leave it there.

00:30:34.780 I want to thank our guest, Carter Page, a man whose name will go down in history.

00:30:39.820 I am among those who's deeply disappointed in Speaker Johnson, who cast the tie-breaking vote to renew the FISA program without at least substantial amendment to protect the civil liberties of Americans.

00:30:55.700 Carter Page, thank you so much for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

00:31:00.940 Thank you, Roger.

00:31:02.700 And thank you, Troy.

00:31:03.580 It's a real, real pleasure to be with you.

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00:34:00.580 I'm Roger Stone.

00:34:02.600 And you are tuned into The Stone Zone.

00:34:05.900 With me is my co-host, Troy Smith, who is the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news.

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00:34:38.840 I don't know about you, Troy, but the thing that keeps me up at night is this dream in which there's an emergency.

00:34:50.020 I can't reach my family, I can't reach my family because my cell phone is not functioning.

00:34:56.660 The power grid having been taken down, the cell towers therefore being unfunctional.

00:35:04.520 It's a nightmare.

00:35:06.480 And then recently, I became aware of the Iridium satellite phone, which is really designed for just such an emergency.

00:35:16.600 I've had a chance to try this out.

00:35:19.960 Everyone in my family is getting one.

00:35:22.900 And now I want to bring Tina Blanco on to talk about why everyone needs one of these, how it functions, and why this just makes good sense.

00:35:34.780 Tina, welcome to The Stone Zone. 0.71

00:35:38.200 Thank you so much for having me.

00:35:40.660 Yeah, Roger, we recently experienced this about a month or so ago.

00:35:45.880 We noticed that AT&T service went down.

00:35:50.160 We still don't know if they were hacked or what happened there.

00:35:53.920 But yeah, your satellite phone will work from anywhere on Earth.

00:35:59.180 You can't really take these down because you really carry your, this is like your cell phone antenna.

00:36:06.740 So you carry your cell phone antenna with you wherever you go on Earth.

00:36:10.960 Cell phones cover 7% of the Earth when they're working.

00:36:13.900 Satellite phones cover 100% of the Earth.

00:36:17.460 And they will always work.

00:36:18.780 Can't take the cell tower down because you've got it with you.

00:36:22.780 So, and yes, so this will work from anywhere on Earth.

00:36:28.000 And Roger, we've made it really easy for people to purchase these.

00:36:31.620 They're about $1,300 phones.

00:36:33.880 We do provide them for free.

00:36:35.400 You just sign up on a 24-month agreement with a plan.

00:36:41.280 You know, I live in Florida, of course, where hurricanes are a common thing.

00:36:48.300 And sadly, we're about ready for another one.

00:36:51.360 I can't even begin to tell you how much I wish I had had this satellite phone during our last hurricane.

00:36:59.260 I noticed that they're also water resistant.

00:37:03.880 What about security?

00:37:05.520 In other words, I have serious questions about the government surveilling cell phone conversations.

00:37:13.840 We know, based on their own statement, that the FBI dipped into the 702 database.

00:37:22.840 That's the database collected through FISA that we discussed in our previous segment.

00:37:30.060 Over 4 million times to collect data on American citizens.

00:37:34.880 We also know that they've had as many as 128,000 warrantless surveillances, searches, spying on American citizens.

00:37:46.580 Again, without a warrant from a judge.

00:37:50.280 So, what about the security in terms of the abilities of anyone, a foreign power, our government, a third party, to monitor your conversations?

00:38:02.800 Right.

00:38:04.960 So, as you know, our U.S. military uses these.

00:38:09.020 And there's a reason why.

00:38:10.720 These cannot be tracked.

00:38:12.080 You can't listen in on these phones, Roger.

00:38:15.520 So, yes, these are pretty much the most secure phones that you can possibly get.

00:38:21.960 You will not be tracked.

00:38:23.740 No one will listen in.

00:38:25.580 No one can find you.

00:38:26.940 There's no GPS.

00:38:28.780 A lot of our customers that get these don't want to be found.

00:38:32.280 They just want to escape.

00:38:34.060 And this is the same reason why the military gets these as well.

00:38:38.340 Because they don't want the bad guys to listen in on them.

00:38:42.180 And for us, too, we don't want anyone to listen in to our calls.

00:38:46.560 So, once in a while, we want to have a private call between ourselves and, you know, our spouse or our employees.

00:38:54.020 You kind of want to, you want some privacy.

00:38:56.480 And this phone does give you privacy.

00:38:58.240 They're also good to take with you if you're on vacation.

00:39:03.020 You saw what happened in Hawaii recently with when the less than 5% of the island burned down in Maui.

00:39:12.360 But 95% of the island had no cell coverage for over a week.

00:39:18.360 So, the only way that you can communicate with your friends and family or get help from the neighboring islands was if you had a satellite phone.

00:39:25.920 So, yeah.

00:39:26.700 So, we've experienced a lot there.

00:39:29.840 And so, yeah.

00:39:30.980 I highly recommend at least be the one in your neighborhood.

00:39:34.700 So, that in case there is a disaster, fire, hurricane, tornado, cell towers getting hacked, that you're the neighbor in a neighborhood that has a satellite phone so that you can allow your neighborhood to communicate with the outside world to let everyone know that you're safe.

00:39:54.740 Yeah, I want to be clear here so there's no confusion.

00:39:59.620 This phone has a value of $1,300.

00:40:03.780 But by signing up with a service plan, and there are many, many options.

00:40:09.500 By the way, it was surprisingly affordable.

00:40:12.480 I think we looked at a plan that was a mere $95.95 a month.

00:40:20.160 So, I'm paying more than that right now on my cell phone, and there are a lot of places it doesn't work.

00:40:26.800 In fact, I was shocked to learn that cell phone coverage covers only about 7% of the Earth, whereas your satellite phone, the 955 Iridium phone, works everywhere on the planet, literally everywhere on the planet.

00:40:43.380 It's impressive.

00:40:44.700 Troy, do you have a question for Tina?

00:40:48.000 Absolutely.

00:40:48.520 So, these would be used in, I guess, a disaster or even in like an outage or something like that.

00:40:54.480 What kind of battery life do they have, and are they long-lasting so people can make a lot of calls in a disaster situation?

00:41:02.080 So, yeah, they do have 20 hours of talk time.

00:41:08.280 So, they give you a long-term, but we also provide you with solar panel, backup battery, also like a battery to charge your cell phone, your satellite phone, so a portable battery.

00:41:25.680 So, yeah, one of the things that we notice with a lot of emergencies, such as last hurricane that we had, Hurricane Ian in Florida, was that the battery life.

00:41:37.840 A lot of the first responders needed battery life for a week.

00:41:41.500 So, one of the things that we highly recommend is to get a solar panel, because a lot of times in these emergencies, the electricity is down as well.

00:41:49.120 So, the only way that you can charge your phone is through a portable solar panel.

00:41:53.920 So, we do have all of those, so you can definitely get those.

00:41:57.320 So, I just want to mention our website is sap123.com, and go ahead and get your free phone.

00:42:05.080 One final thing that I also want to touch up on is that back when the war started with Ukraine, the whole earth was out of satellite phones.

00:42:15.340 We are only one disaster away.

00:42:17.540 They only make about 25 of these satellite phones a year, and once they're gone, they're gone.

00:42:22.700 So, if you have been thinking of getting a satellite phone, this is a good time before the hurricane season starts.

00:42:30.740 If there's a major hurricane, there ain't going to be any more satellite phones to sell or give away for the rest of the year.

00:42:37.000 We've experienced that several times throughout my career.

00:42:41.120 Let's go ahead and put up that graphic full screen, if we could, so people know how to contact Tina's company. 0.65

00:42:52.700 This, I can't even begin to tell you, there it is, sat123.com, sat123.com.

00:42:59.780 You can get all the information you need.

00:43:03.080 This is a tremendous product.

00:43:05.860 I can't even begin to tell you how happy that I am.

00:43:09.120 Not so much that I'm concerned about the hurricanes, but just the extra layer of security, given this political environment.

00:43:19.140 And the fact that we have a rogue government doesn't seem to think they need warrants before they spy on people.

00:43:27.540 So, just for peace of mind, I strongly recommend that you get your free phone and that you sign up for one of these programs.

00:43:37.420 I think you're going to be very pleased.

00:43:39.880 Now, Tina's company has some other great products that we're going to be talking about, not today, but down the road.

00:43:47.480 I never endorse something.

00:43:51.280 I never speak highly of it.

00:43:52.800 I never promote it unless it's something that I myself have tested and believe in.

00:43:58.900 I was a little skeptical when I got this that it would be, you know, hard to hear, that it would be not as efficient as my cell phone seems.

00:44:08.940 I was wrong about all of that.

00:44:10.460 So, folks, get your free Iridium 955 phone.

00:44:15.560 Sign up for one of these service plans.

00:44:17.840 I think you will be extraordinarily pleased.

00:44:21.240 Tina, thank you so much for joining us today in the Stone Zone.

00:44:26.360 Thank you so much for having me.

00:44:28.900 All right, folks, that was our guest, Tina Blanco. 0.97

00:44:35.500 This is a great new product that I hope folks will check out.

00:44:39.520 Troy, you've been watching the political scene.

00:44:42.880 We have a few more minutes left here today.

00:44:45.800 President Donald Trump goes yet again to another day in trial.

00:44:50.740 Late yesterday, the judge fined Trump $9,000 for nine individual violations of his unconstitutional gag order.

00:45:04.080 And then the judge set a deadline by which Trump was required to remove certain posts from his truth social page.

00:45:16.820 I was watching intently to see whether he would do so by the deadline, by the deadline.

00:45:22.920 Interestingly, among those things that he was ordered to take down was a letter signed by Stormy Daniels several years ago in which she said that they had never had a relationship and that all of the allegations regarding the two of them were false.

00:45:42.800 Trump was ordered to take the truth social down this this entire trial trial is a travesty.

00:45:54.980 I mean, it seems to get worse by the day.

00:45:59.940 What's the latest that you have seen out of New York?

00:46:03.940 Well, I've been monitoring this case pretty closely, Roger.

00:46:07.140 And what I see is a judge that's just gone rogue.

00:46:09.700 I mean, these people have gone literally berserk.

00:46:12.040 And you, as somebody who's been a veteran of, I believe, 13 different presidential campaigns throughout the years, you can speak to this, Roger, better than anybody.

00:46:20.500 The idea that we have a presidential candidate, the nominee for a major party heading into a general election being gagged, not being allowed to talk about things that I believe are truthfully relevant.

00:46:31.720 I mean, and this is the bait and switch, Roger.

00:46:34.320 This is the Pelosi smear that we hear so much about that we've talked about here.

00:46:37.420 The media gets to go out there and say whatever they want about President Trump, they can make any allegation.

00:46:43.300 They've accused him of rape.

00:46:44.780 They've accused him of all kind of crazy things that there's no evidence of or to support that he committed any of these crimes that they accused him of.

00:46:53.800 And yet he's not allowed to post a letter in which Stormy Daniels admits that there was no relationship between the two of them.

00:47:00.260 So I'd like you to comment just as a veteran of all these presidential campaigns, Roger, how out of the ordinary is it that you have a gag order in place for a candidate for president?

00:47:11.560 And on top of that, the idea that they're tying Trump's hands behind his back and not allowing him to speak while the media does whatever they want and paints him however they want in this case, it seems eerily similar to the situation you were put into.

00:47:24.840 So, Troy, exactly.

00:47:27.780 I mean, the point, of course, is that Michael Cohen or Stormy Daniels can attack Trump at will, and they're doing so.

00:47:34.040 I think Michael Cohen is actually doing it for money online.

00:47:38.380 The prosecutors can leak, which they do incessantly, against Trump.

00:47:43.740 But Trump is not allowed to defend himself.

00:47:46.620 It seems un-American to me.

00:47:48.940 It seems completely unfair.

00:47:50.780 The good news is, well, the American people see through it.

00:47:54.500 We're going to go to a quick commercial break, and then we'll be back to wrap up today's Stone Zone and kind of summarize what's going on in New York City.

00:48:04.400 We'll be right back.

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00:50:24.180 Welcome back, folks.

00:50:25.900 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone.

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00:51:32.440 We appreciate our growing viewership, Troy.

00:51:37.940 We've come a very, very long way in a short period of time.

00:51:42.680 Yes, we have, Roger.

00:51:45.260 And I remember when we first started doing these or first came on board here, you know, I look back at those days and I look at the viewers we have now.

00:51:53.400 It's just astounding.

00:51:54.280 And the level of, you know, to be able to talk to a Carter Page, Roger, I mean, there's no understating how unbelievable that is and the importance of that man and what he's been through in U.S. history and how this all ties in to President Donald Trump, who I believe is probably the most important historical figure in the last hundred years, at least maybe in American political history.

00:52:20.100 So to go through this entire thing, to watch the guests come in here and to be hitting things across the country.

00:52:26.720 It's an honor and it's just another reason why people out there need to be subscribed to the show, need to watch the show every day because I don't think, I've watched a lot of the other shows, Roger.

00:52:36.680 I've watched a lot of the other interviews because we obviously have to cross-reference things and obviously have to research before we have guests on.

00:52:43.440 And I don't think there's any place else on the web or on television or radio, for that matter, where they can get the kind of content they get here at the Stone Zone.

00:52:52.780 I think it's very important.

00:52:55.020 And as we were touching on really before we went to the break there, Roger, President Trump is being put through the ringer in New York City.

00:53:03.260 And he's being put through, he's really having his hands tied behind his back.

00:53:06.480 He's not allowed to respond to what's being leaked out by the attorneys and Michael Cohen, who, by the way, is on TikTok, as you said, accepting money for putting out information about President Trump.

00:53:19.760 You know, there's a there's a huge problem there.

00:53:22.780 But I'd like to get your comment on on because you obviously are friends with the president and you speak to him from time to time.

00:53:29.800 How how is he doing in the midst of all this?

00:53:32.600 He he's not sitting back and kind of contemplate.

00:53:35.200 It looks to me like he's constantly on the attack.

00:53:37.180 He's constantly moving forward.

00:53:39.000 How do you perceive the president is handling this onslaught of legal trouble he's going through right now?

00:53:44.840 Well, Troy, I spoke to him a couple nights ago.

00:53:47.760 It has always been my policy for 45 years not to discuss the specifics of any conversation I have with Donald Trump.

00:53:57.100 So the actual specifics of those conversations remain confidential.

00:54:01.480 But I can tell you that he's stoic.

00:54:05.220 He is determined.

00:54:07.820 He's resolute.

00:54:09.420 He's a little angry, but I think he has every right to be angry because no other previous president has been treated this way.

00:54:18.000 He's well aware of the fact that as the judge in the documents case, unredacts more and more that special counsel Jack Smith wants hidden, that that whole thing looks like a frame job.

00:54:31.800 It looks like the GSA and the National Archives shipped him a pallet of boxes of documents that he didn't ask for.

00:54:41.660 And then once they confirmed that they had arrived at Mar-a-Lago, reported that Trump was in illegal possession of the very documents they sent.

00:54:51.080 This is a setup.

00:54:53.020 The president's lawyers argue that under the Presidential Documents Act that he's entitled to do anything he wants with his documents, the documents of his presidency.

00:55:04.120 He can decide what goes back to the government, what he gets to keep.

00:55:07.580 Now, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who just happened to have been the judge in my case, she ruled for President Bill Clinton, saying that Bill Clinton could essentially do whatever he wants with his presidential documents, including keeping them in the sock drawer at his home.

00:55:26.400 So why that is not the governing law here is kind of a mystery to me.

00:55:32.540 Trump is not charged for some violation of the Presidential Records Act, and the government claims that that's not the governing law.

00:55:42.480 They have actually charged him under the Espionage Act, although the false claims of Trump has got the nuclear codes, he's keeping them at Mar-a-Lago, he's going to sell them to the Chinese, he's going to sell them to the Russians.

00:55:58.120 And that's what they call the wrap-up smear that Nancy Pelosi is so very good at. 1.00

00:56:04.280 Make up a lie, get somebody in the mainstream media to write it as if it's a fact, then point to that story and say, ah, you see, it's true because USA Today reported it or Yahoo News reported it.

00:56:20.980 Therefore, it must be true, and then, as Nancy Pelosi says, merchandise it and continue to push it.

00:56:28.780 This is the exact format that they use.

00:56:33.780 And right now, I think what you've got is hysteria, actual apoplexy, because it's very unlikely, lawyers tell me, that either the Florida documents case or the D.C. case involving election interference brought by Jack Smith, which is the election interference itself,

00:56:57.600 they tell me it is unlikely, given the Supreme Court's deliberate due process that they have afforded President Trump, that either one of those cases will get to trial before the election.

00:57:13.420 And that's the point.

00:57:14.500 In New York, they don't really care if a conviction that they win with a crooked judge and a rigged jury and by prohibiting Trump from defending himself and by limiting what defenses he can offer.

00:57:29.840 They don't care if they get a conviction and that conviction is later overturned on appeal because, you see, the election will be over by then.

00:57:39.440 All they care about is getting a conviction, any conviction in any jurisdiction, and this is the one they're down to.

00:57:49.640 Now, as you know, the U.S. attorney looked at this case in the Southern District of New York, rejected it as finding no violation of the law.

00:57:59.080 The Federal Election Commission investigated it.

00:58:02.300 So it is a lynching is what it is.

00:58:06.940 It is it is it is an outrageous process.

00:58:10.960 And all that we can do right now, Troy, I do this every night, is pray that there is just one juror, just one reasonable, honest, nonpolitical juror who will look at the facts presented by Trump's lawyers and refuse to convict.

00:58:29.360 And then this nightmare will be over.

00:58:32.440 All right.

00:58:33.420 I'm afraid we are out of time and therefore we've got to move on down the road on behalf of myself, Roger Stone, and my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:58:42.260 Thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

00:58:45.680 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.

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