How Trump Will Lead Us to a Golden Age - w⧸ Grant Cardone and Roger Stone
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On this episode of The Stone Zone, host Roger Stone is joined by entrepreneur and Trump supporter Grant Cardone to discuss the recent FBI raid at his Florida home and why he thinks James Comey should be appointed as the next FBI Director. Also, Stone and Cardone discuss the possibility of a run for Governor of California by former California Governor Gavin Newsom and why they think he should be the next Governor of Florida. And, of course, there's a special guest appearance from Stone's good friend and former business partner, Grant Cavanen, who joins the show to talk about how young people should get started in business and how they should pursue their dreams of becoming entrepreneurs. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone is a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host, Roger Stone, and his co-host, Troy Smith, host of the Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone. . . . Roger Stone joins us to discuss his recent arrest, the FBI raid, and why the FBI needs to be reformed. and why Donald Trump s pick for FBI Director should be chosen by the President. , and why a woman should run for governor of California. Roger and Troy Smith are both considering running for governor . with a primary challenge in 2020. ... and much more! - Roger Stone: What's up next for you? - The Stone Zone? and , is a show about politics, business, finance, and business, and politics, and what you should be doing in 2020? and what s going on in your life? , what s up with your political life - and what are you listening to in the news? & what s the deal you re listening to? ? - And what do you got going to do with your money, and who s going to vote for in 2020, and - what s your thoughts on it? - and what s he s got in your money? (and what s that s up in your mind, and should you s got it?
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Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
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Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York
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Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an
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outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless
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venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
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Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop
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culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
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Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, indeed, you are back in the Stone Zone. On the morning of January
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25th, 2019, at six o'clock in the morning, 29 heavily armed SWAT-clad FBI agents swarmed my home.
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They were completely clad, as I say, in SWAT gear, including night goggles and brandishing M4 fully
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automatic assault weapons. They surrounded and swarmed my home to arrest me for the non-existent crime of
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lying to Congress under oath about matters that were irrelevant and immaterial. Maybe this is why I
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feel strongly that the FBI needs to be reformed, because that FBI raid was authorized in Washington,
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but carried out by the Miami office. It's interesting because, of course, I had no passport. I had no
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previous criminal record. I had no firearm in the home. I most certainly was not a flight risk, which is
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how they rationalized the manner of my arrest. To this day, my wife and I both suffer, to a certain
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extent, she more than me, with PTSD. Now, normally, in a case like this, in a non-violent, white-collar
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process crime, and with me having no prior criminal record, they would merely call your lawyer and tell
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him that you needed to turn yourself in. But had they done that, CNN wouldn't have been able to be
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25 feet from the front door of my home and put on the media circus that I presume was meant to
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intimidate me, because they would later try to pressure me into testifying falsely against my friend of
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45 years, Donald Trump, and to intimidate others that they were investigating. So I feel strongly that
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President Trump's pick for FBI director is absolutely crucial. That's also why I believe Cash Patel, the
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former acting director of the U.S. Department of Defense, former federal prosecutor specializing in
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intelligence crimes, and former chief counsel to the House Intelligence Committee under Chairman Devin
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Nunes, is precisely the man for the job. Anyway, I want to start out with that thought. Here to join me in
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breaking down the political news and also to talk to our very special guest today, entrepreneur,
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businessman, and Trump supporter, Grant Cardone, is my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of
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Slingshot.News. Roger, it's always an honor to be back with you in the Stone Zone. Great. Let's get right
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to our guest, because I've been reading some pretty exciting news about him. Grant Cardone owns and
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operates over seven privately held companies and a private equity real estate firm, Cardone Capital,
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with a multifamily estate portfolio of assets totaling over $1.4 billion. He's one of the top
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crowd funders in the world, raising over $1.4 billion in equity via social media. He's been featured on
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seasons two of Discovery Channel's Undercover Billionaire and other high-profile television
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shows. But more importantly, he's an outspoken supporter of the president. He is an outspoken
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advocate for a number of things we're going to ask him about in terms of how young people starting in
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business should proceed. Someone I admire very much and consider a friend, Grant Cardone. Welcome to the Stone Zone.
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Guys, thank you so much for having me, Roger. Always a pleasure to be with you and see you rocking a
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beautiful shirt, tie, and suspenders. It's my look. What can I say, brother? You got a great
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thing going. You got your own thing going. I do indeed. We're very, very pleased to have you. I know
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you're very busy. So thank you for giving us your time, particularly on short notice. This has been
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an exhilarating week, although I have neither any informal or formal role in the president's
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transition. I do have a lot of good men and women I think should serve. So yes, I've been running back
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and forth to Palm Beach to try to make sure that they get full consideration of their credentials.
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Let's start with the news. I read online that you may be contemplating a race for governor of
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California. Now, I think you'd be a great governor of California. I also think you have residences here
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in Florida. I also think you'd be a great governor of Florida. In fact, I think you'd be a great
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governor no matter where you chose to run. Are you putting us on or is this something you're really
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serious about? Roger, I lived in, thank you for that, by the way, and also support your idea about
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Kash Patel for FBI. I think he'd be phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. I lived in California for
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25 years. We still maintain a home there in Malibu. And what I've seen happen in the state of
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California over the last 13 or 14 years is just disastrous. I left there, when I left there,
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we had family there, two kids that were born there, a family, all my friends were there,
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our businesses were there, our employees were there. And they went from, I think it was a 10%
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to, no, it was a, yeah, 10% to a 13.3% tax rate. Not only did they increase the taxes 32%,
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that's a 32% increase, okay? Only on those people that earn money, by the way, because most of the
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state doesn't pay anything. They're just getting free resources, beautiful weather. Half the state
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pays nothing to actually live there because they contribute nothing, okay? Now, I have a solution
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to all those things, by the way. I think California is probably one of the great resources of the United
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States, and we need to fix that state because it's so valuable to this country. But when they raised
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taxes, I wrote Arnold. Arnold was the governor then. And I said, if you do this, I'm going to sell my
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home, sell my real estate, get rid of my businesses. I'm going to move to a state that's friendly to
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business that has less regulations and lower taxes. I'm going to take those taxes that I don't
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pay, and I'm going to reinvest it in my business and grow it. They didn't lower taxes. They raised
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them. Now they raised them again, by the way, this Newsom guy. Not only does he raise taxes, and this
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is what the wealthy and the successful, the savers and the investors are complaining about. It's not that
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we pay taxes. It's that you guys waste our money. Like, if you did the right things with my money,
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I wouldn't care. But the fact is, you don't do the right things. They're funding transgender BS.
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They want to fund programs. I think when I left there, Roger, their budget, their income was
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$60 billion. Now it's $230 billion. And they're getting worse. So what I would do there, Roger,
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is I would reduce the taxes to at least the Arizona level, 4%. You would have tremendous amounts of
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money go back into California. You would have U-Hauls lining up to go back to California to buy
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their properties, to hire people, to bring jobs back there. I would take that 8% or 9% tax revenue,
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let's say half of the tax revenue, $130 billion a year, give it back to the people, and let me decide
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how I want to spend it. Provide me with incentives for buying homes, providing housing. Don't let the
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government provide the housing. Let the owners of the property provide the housing. Private dollars
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will always do it better with private money than the public will. And the third thing is I would
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give incentives to people that provide jobs there and let them decide what they want to pay people.
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It is really hard to understand how a state that has virtually a perfect climate 75% of the year,
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extraordinary natural resources, a state that beautiful, and with that kind of potential could
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be driven into the gutter by the high tax and soft on crime policies of the Democrats. I must say,
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you know, I met Arnold back in the 80s, back when he called himself a Reagan Republican. He was a
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favorite of Nancy Reagan's. And he was elected in a recall when Gray Davis was replaced. But then
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he governed worse than Gray Davis. I mean, it's very hard to believe. I understand the value of
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celebrity and politics. He had this great land, a great line in his campaign where he said, I want
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every Californian to have a fantastic job. Well, it sounds good. But he really just furthered the
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decline of the state. He was no better than the governor before it. Now, if you look at the
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results of this most recent presidential election, there's clearly even people in California are
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waking up. Kamala Harris did not carry her home state by the kind of margin you would normally have
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expected. And Republican turnout hit all time high levels. Now, unfortunately, they're still counting
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votes almost two weeks after the election in a few of these House races. But I haven't written off
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California. I think it's uphill for any Republican. But remember, they have this odd system in which
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there are no longer party primaries, where every candidate, regardless of party, runs in one what
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they call jungle primary. And the two top vote getters, even if someone gets 50 percent, the two
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top vote getters then face off. So party, which I think is becoming less important anyway, with great
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folks like RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and Rod Blagojevich moving towards the Republican Party, party is less
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important. What's more important than party are ideas, plans. So I think you'd be a great candidate
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because clearly you've thought this through. It's also, I think, the second most expensive state in the
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nation to wage, you know, a sophisticated, data-driven, media-centric campaign. But I suspect you wouldn't have
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the trouble raising the money. Let me just say this. The California people are like, pissed off so much right now.
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They are so happy about the Trump win. I have not had, I've been very vocal now, as you have been for, I don't
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know, 13 or 14 years when I moved to Florida. When I left California, we didn't even know where we were going. We just
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knew we were leaving and we were going to find a better place. We ended up in Florida, but we considered
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Tennessee, we considered Utah, we considered Arizona, Nevada, Texas, and ended up in Miami. And when we got
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there, the governor of Miami at that time, Rick Scott, called me and said, welcome to Florida. Anything I can do
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for you, help me. We want to help you. And I was like, wow, that's different. I'd been in California 25 years. So the
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people in California have been neglected. They have not been listened to. This is happening. There's a
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wave in this country, okay? And this MAGA thing is real. Make America great again. Make America wealthy
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again. Make America healthy again. This thing is resonating deep into the bones of people, into the
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cellular American patriot of people. And people want their property rights back. They want fairness back.
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They want control back. And they do not want a government that is overfunded and never held
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accountable. And I think that California is also going to wake up to this as well, because I cannot
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tell you, all the way up the food chain, the celebrity food chain, directors, producers, actors, my wife's
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an actress, so she knows all those people. They were coming out after the Trump victory. I had posted that I
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was going to provide my plane. It has 17 seats on. I said, I'm going to provide all these celebrities
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that need to leave. I'll provide them with a free transportation out of here. And one producer from
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Hollywood said, I can fill your plane up tomorrow. So people have been exiting California for some time
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now, not because they want to, but because it's financially best for them to do that. And this would
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be a way to bring those people back, bring the revenue back, bring the creativity back. Look, even Elon Musk has
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left. This is crazy. Yeah, I myself posted on Twitter a reminder to Robert De Niro that he had
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pledged that if Donald Trump was elected, he would leave the country. And I just want to let him know
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if he needed a lift to the airport, I was available. I think he got more follows or more likes than
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anything I've ever boasted. You saw the Trump rally, as I recall. That had to be an incredible
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experience. Tell us about that. Well, I did the Coachella thing in LA. I was in LA and actually my
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daughter was contacted. She's 15. And somebody from the Trump administration said, would your dad like
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to speak at Coachella? I went there and I did that. There was 40,000 people in a very, very conservative
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part of California, extremely conservative, Christian based. These are farmers, ranchers,
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hard workers, laborers. There was 40,000 people there at 110 degrees or something. It was terribly
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hot. And to see, I'd never been to a rally. Roger, I'm sure you've been to a bunch of them. You've been
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very political your whole life. I've not been. And just the swell and the enthusiasm and the
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patriotism and the excitement. I've been in front of massive audiences in my career, business people.
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This was completely different. This is something truly different has happened. This will live
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longer than just Trump's four years. And I believe that this thing can't be put to sleep.
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So when I was done with that speech, I left and they asked me to speak at MSG, Madison Square Garden.
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So three weeks later, I did that as well. And again, another great experience.
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Very diverse group of people, Roger, as you know, male, female, black, white, brown, people from all
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walks of life, young, old, people that are all had one thing in common, excited about making America
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I was in Madison Square Garden. It was one of the most incredible experiences in my 45 years in
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politics. Of course, the Democrats kept saying, what was like a Nazi rally?
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Well, first of all, a couple of things. Bill Clinton was nominated for president in Madison
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Square Garden. And Jimmy Carter was nominated for president in Madison Square Garden.
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President John F. Kennedy had his famous birthday party in which Marilyn Monroe,
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in the virtually see-through dress, breathily sang, happy birthday, Mr. President.
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The other thing about this Nazi rally is, I saw a lot of Israel flags and people wearing yarmulkes
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in the crowd. You don't see many Nazi rallies if you go back and look at the old news footage.
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This is one of the most vile smears I've ever seen. The whole idea of Kamala Harris's closing
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messages, Trump is Hitler and the people who are voting for him is Nazis. That's not very uplifting.
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That's not very inspiring. I think it explains one of the reasons why she got walloped so bad.
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She had no vision for this country. She had no plan for this country. Say anything you like about
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Donald Trump. First of all, he understands that the cornerstone of a vibrant economy is low energy
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prices. If you get low energy prices, then you can ultimately get the revenues necessary to fix our
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schools, to have affordable housing again. An important issue that I think RFK gets credit
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to really bringing to the public consciousness. I completely agree with you, Grant. The MAGA-Maha
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alliance, this new political coalition, this new coalition that I think is really historic
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in the sense that we've only seen this twice before in recent history. 1932, Franklin Roosevelt
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forges a new governing coalition. Most African Americans voted Republican prior to 1932 because
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of the role of the Republican Party in the emancipation of the slaves. But because of Herbert Hoover's
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anemic response to the Great Depression, African Americans became the most reliable Democrat voters.
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This new coalition in which he combines them with white Southerners, union members in the Northeast
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and the Midwest, allows the Democrats to stay in power from 1932 to 1952. Then in 1968, Richard Nixon
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forges a new political alignment where blue-collar Catholics in the Northeast and the Midwest join with
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white Southerners and Southern, probably Western, leave us alone type libertarians to forge the coalition.
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Now, he wins that election in a plurality, but that's the coalition that ultimately elects Ronald Reagan
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and actually goes on to reelect Donald Trump. Now, however, it's even more diverse with Donald Trump
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making really deep inroads among African Americans, particularly Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans,
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and younger Americans. I give Bobby Kennedy and Tosi Gabbard a lot of credit for this. This new coalition
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is permanent. It's here to stay. And yeah, I think it could elect a governor of California.
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When I visited your office in Miami, one of the things that impressed me the most was that all
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of the young men working for you, all the young men training there, every single one of them was
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wearing a jacket and tie. Because I think that you need to be dressed appropriately for business if
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you're going to do business. You have a lot of advice for young people who are just starting out
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in business. You're outspoken about it. It all seems like common sense to me. We have a disproportionate
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number of younger men who watch this show. Give us, I don't know, three, four things you would tell
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a young gentleman who's just, or a young woman for that matter, who's just starting out in business.
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Yeah, let me just back up a second. You're probably judging me for my hoodie this morning.
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Yeah, but let me just say that when you gave that historical about America and how we've been
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stringing these arguments together and these conversations and how people are changing,
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we were building a middle class back in the 50s. That middle class now is substantially built and
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starting to erode. Now what has to happen in this country, we have enough middle class people. We now
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have to teach that middle class how to create wealth for itself. And it wants it, Roger. Back in 2002,
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George Bush tried to roll out an education program and he was the wrong spokesman. He was not
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inspirational. I like George Bush, but he was not, he was not the delivery mechanism. Also,
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we did not have the distribution possible with Instagram, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon Prime. We didn't
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have the way to deliver aspirational, inspirational, financial education like George Bush was trying to
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roll out. And the third thing we didn't have, and probably the most important piece, is America was not
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awakened yet to the possibility of wealth. Because of the, the availability of social media today and
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people like myself and people that are successful, other people are successful, showing the lifestyle,
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the cars, the suits, the way you dress, because we can see that now. Like you can be in my hotel room
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in Madison or in New York. I'm in New York City this morning. The fact that I can be in New York City and
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you can see what a room in the Ritz Hotel looks like makes everything possible to the middle class
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now and to poor people, to everyone. Everyone can see the possibility. They might see a video of me
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getting on my plane or me getting in my car or me driving up to my house or into my offices. And
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America now gets to see, dang, if he can make it, he's from the bayous of Louisiana, raised by a single mom.
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If he can do it, anyone can do it. And that becomes super aspirational,
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an example of how to dress, how to act, or what possibility and potential is.
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So that's why I wrote Mr. Trump or President Trump on this, well, make America wealthy again,
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how to actually scale education to create wealthy Americans, not just the middle class,
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but actually take that class up and create the strongest, but most vibrant, most prosperous,
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wealthiest group of people on planet Earth. And that starts with how you dress, how you act,
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how you work, what your work ethic is, who you surround yourself with, and what you show up and
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do every day. And I think that's what you saw at our office. It's about culture. What is the culture
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at the office? This is something the government can never accomplish, as you know, Roger, never.
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Like, it's not even an agenda. Their agenda is not about strong work ethic, culture, motivation,
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pick yourself up. And I would just tell the people of California, people of Florida, the people of
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America, the government needs to tell you the truth. The government cannot save you. Okay, it's impossible.
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It is up to you. You live in the greatest country in the world. We have the most wealth of any other
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country. We have unbelievable resources, unbelievable possibility here. You can watch it,
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go through the hands of other people, or you can go out and grab it yourself. And that starts with
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commitment, and then education, and then surround yourself with the right people.
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So let me ask you this question. How important is a college education? See, I'm not a college graduate.
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In my sophomore year, I was studying political science. Then I was offered a job in that Nixon White House.
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So I had a choice of going to actually do what I was studying, or just studying it.
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And I haven't regretted the decision not to continue. And I don't feel any lesser for it when I'm
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with my friends who have doctorates or are far better educated than I do. It causes young people to
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take on enormous debt. Unfortunately, what they're being taught, I'm not sure is all that practical in
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terms of success in life. How important is a college education for a young person today?
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I mean, if you just look at the ROI and look at it as an investment, it's a terrible investment.
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64% of all college kids are still in college at 48 months. 46% are still there at 60 months. That means
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they've missed somewhere between 48 months and 60 months of real life experience, real work experience,
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producing income and contributing to the American machine of GDP and work production.
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So I would tell people, I spent five years in college. I would never, ever do that again. I
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would not suggest anyone do it again. The only reason to do it, supposedly, is because you want
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to be a lawyer or a doctor. Both of those will be replaced by AI and robots. And there's virtually no
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reason to do it. Facebook, Google, even Elon. Elon says, I have no need for a certificate. I want a
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good engineer that knows how to make things that weigh less, that cost less, and can go further.
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So I would tell all young people, go to work. Don't go to college. Get around somebody. Leave the
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government alone. Do not go work for the government. Work for an individual, a person,
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somebody that wants to grow their business and scale their business. Don't follow your purpose
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in the beginning. Go where you can learn how to work and how to show up. Show up in an environment
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that makes you show up on time, that makes you put your head to the ground and actually do things. Like
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you said, Roger, you went and did something rather than learn more. And when you're doing, you actually do
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learn. You know, when I worked for President Nixon, Bob Haldeman, the legendary White House Chief of
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Staff, whose staffing system, paper flow, everything, it's been used by every president, Republican and
00:25:48.140
Democrat since then. He used to have a saying in which he said, if you're on time, you're late.
00:25:53.740
That's right. Which I always took to heart. This is, I think, a unique opportunity. I believe
00:26:04.620
that under Donald Trump, we're going to have a golden age of peace, prosperity, security, and justice.
00:26:13.100
It's amazing to see the left in this country melting down, saying that this election was about
00:26:21.980
toxic masculinity or it was about being anti-woman. It wasn't about any of those things.
00:26:28.940
Donald Trump was not a candidate for president. He was a former president with a track record,
00:26:34.940
a track record of bringing us up until that time, the most robust economy in our history,
00:26:41.740
the lowest levels of unemployment, changing the tax laws to bring billions of dollars back into this
00:26:47.980
country to be invested here as opposed to being invested abroad. So people were able to compare
00:26:54.460
how things were then and how things are now. It's amazing. I had Barry Habib on. You know Barry,
00:27:02.300
he's a terrific guy, brilliant analyst of the housing and mortgage market, but also a brilliant economic
00:27:10.140
analyst. And every time they put out, the Labor Statistics Bureau put out the numbers, he would
00:27:19.100
tear them apart and say, here's why they're fake. This is fake. This is fake. This is fake. And he would
00:27:25.500
always say, and they will restate these in three weeks and here's what they will say. And he hit it
00:27:31.180
on the head every single time, every single time. So they kept telling us the economy is doing great.
00:27:38.940
But if you went out on the street and you talk to people, no one believed that. So I think the
00:27:43.980
president has a unique opportunity here. It's a question I have to ask you, given your experience,
00:27:50.620
given your success, given your ideas, given your zeal, if the president offered you a job in this
00:27:57.180
administration, would you consider it? Well, I would consider anything that could
00:28:02.620
make things better for Americans, because if it's better for Americans, it's better for me.
00:28:07.660
If I live in an environment that's not doing well, where everybody's sick, everybody's financially
00:28:12.140
struggling, no matter how much wealth I have for myself and my family, if I'm in a sick environment,
00:28:18.620
I'm in a sick environment. So my goal would be to do and serve and to be of service to the ecosystem
00:28:25.660
that I live in. It's really self-preservation that I would want to help out and do well. And I think
00:28:33.420
that that is an innate thing in all human beings, that they want to help their neighborhood. They
00:28:38.220
want to help their community, their family. Once you help yourself, your family, the community,
00:28:43.660
and realize that you can make a difference, you want to extend beyond just that reach that you have.
00:28:49.500
So I think America's in a great position right now. I'm in New York City. I have not met one person
00:28:54.940
that didn't support the vote for this election. Like, literally, I'm on the street this morning.
00:28:59.660
People pass me out. Grant, thanks so much, man. Oh my God. They're coming out of the closet.
00:29:03.740
It's like Anderson Cooper party or something. You know, they're just coming out of the closet right
00:29:08.860
now saying, oh, I'm for Trump. The whole world's for Trump. I was in front of 1,100 people two days
00:29:13.740
ago, Roger. And I said, how many Trumpsters in a room? They're literally their arms came out of their
00:29:18.860
shoulders. I said, oh, you all you guys are supporting now that we won. But that's a good
00:29:24.540
thing right now. Now we're going to hear this, this swell of maggots is going to actually expand,
00:29:29.260
not contract. And the more that Democrats miss this messaging. I mean, she was horrible.
00:29:37.740
No marketing, no sales, no communication skills, no, no presentation skills. People,
00:29:43.660
people said she was intelligent. You got to deliver intelligent. You got to communicate intelligent.
00:29:50.060
She, she, she was not aspirational. There was nothing there. They ran a bad candidate and maybe
00:29:55.820
that's all they have. I know on our side right now, we got a deep bench, but more importantly,
00:30:02.300
we have the American people that want a better economy first. I think we want to quit spending
00:30:08.940
money in other countries on wars. And we want to make this country truly what it can be for,
00:30:15.820
regardless of what your preferences are or your religion or the color of your, your skin.
00:30:21.900
There's a lot of Americans out there that just want America to be as great as it can be.
00:30:27.660
Well, I know you're not seeking a job, but I actually hope the president will consider
00:30:32.220
appointing you. You would be really, really great. It's funny what you say is absolutely true.
00:30:38.220
But normally over the last couple of years, if I went to the grocery store or the drug store,
00:30:43.580
you know, I'd wear sunglasses and a hat and just, I don't want to be yelled at. I don't
00:30:47.740
want to get into fights with people. Liberals are particularly intolerant. They talk about tolerance,
00:30:52.700
but they're the ones who are intolerant. But the day after the election, my wife asked me to go by
00:30:57.660
the grocery store, pick up a few things. And I was wearing this giant Trump for peace t-shirt that
00:31:02.700
my friend, Anthony Constantino, who's built the largest online printing company,
00:31:09.820
done extremely well for himself. You know, this guy, he's the guy who put the giant
00:31:13.980
vote for Trump sign on his factory in upstate New York, Amsterdam, New York, and the Democrat
00:31:19.180
mayor threatened to throw him in jail. Now that Elise Stefanik is going to the UN,
00:31:24.700
that's the district Anthony lives in. He actually went to high school with Elise. He's a good friend of
00:31:29.660
first. He's announced that he's going to seek that seat. And here's the best part.
00:31:34.620
He invested heavily in Tesla when others were bailing out. The lower Tesla stock went,
00:31:40.060
the more he bought. Now he just transferred $2.8 million into his own campaign committee
00:31:46.060
to run for Congress because he says, I don't want to take money from anyone. I don't want to be
00:31:50.300
beholden to any special interest or any lobbyist. My only interest would be the American people and the
00:31:55.420
people of upstate New York that I represent. He's a dynamic young man. He gave me this t-shirt.
00:32:02.300
And it was like day and night, the number of people came up to me, disproportionately African
00:32:08.540
American, by the way. And I'm not talking about two or three people. I mean, 25, 30 people. Folks came
00:32:14.700
up and say, I voted for Trump. Thank God we've been saved. The most people who, if you looked at
00:32:19.580
them, you wouldn't have thought they were Trump voters. It's very, very deceiving. You can't judge
00:32:25.340
a book by its cover. It was really an edifying experience. All right. I appreciate you very much
00:32:31.420
for your time today. If you run for governor, I'm with you 100%. I'll do anything I could possibly do
00:32:38.460
to help. You also have an open invitation here on the Stone Zone. Anytime you have something you think
00:32:44.140
is important to say, please reach out for us. We'd be honored to have you. My friend, Grant Cardone,
00:32:49.980
entrepreneur, Trump supporter, patriot, and a man who is showing the way to a lot of young people who
00:32:56.780
want to get into business. You're not going to find it in the textbook, folks. Follow Grant Cardone. He
00:33:01.980
knows what he's doing. Thanks, Roger. God bless you. All right, Troy Smith, it's time to go through the
00:33:09.500
politics of the day. I think we started with the most important topic, and that is the selection
00:33:16.140
of an FBI director. As someone whose home has been raided by the FBI, something I have in common with
00:33:25.180
President Trump, I can't think of any agency that needs reform more. I saw this story yesterday. The
00:33:32.860
headline was that veteran FBI officials believe that Kash Patel would do massive damage to the agency,
00:33:44.140
to the bureau, if he were to be selected. How much lower can these people's reputation go?
00:33:51.340
These are people, this agency would target parents who attended school board meetings because they were
00:33:59.500
concerned about the curriculum being taught to their children in the public schools, and they were
00:34:05.980
they were essentially certifying them as domestic terrorists. If you were a Catholic and you chose to
00:34:14.780
go to a Latin mass, they called you a domestic terrorist. If you demonstrated peacefully and within the
00:34:22.700
confines of the law outside of your abortion clinic because you're pro-life, they called you a
00:34:29.420
domestic terrorist. And then very recently, I got to send this to you, Troy, amazing story in the
00:34:36.300
Washington Times by a great reporter, Carrie Pickett, that tells us that prior to Crossfire Hurricane,
00:34:45.660
the investigation into Donald Trump, that James Comey planted two women within the Trump campaign,
00:34:54.620
infiltrating a political campaign with spies. They were evidently very attractive young ladies. It's
00:35:01.260
called the Honeypot Operation, where essentially they're assigned to trade sex for information. It was
00:35:08.700
an off-the-books operation reporting directly to James Comey. How can the reputation of the FBI get any worse?
00:35:19.900
Well, Roger, it can't. And when you examine what they've been up to, you know, I want to take you back
00:35:25.420
to 2020, when President Trump invited Chinese leaders to the White House to negotiate a new trade deal, because
00:35:33.980
Trump had campaigned for four years on the fact that that China was robbing us blind in our trade policy. And the
00:35:40.540
Chinese, you know, knew that they had their back against the wall. And so what did they do, Roger? They said, okay, you know,
00:35:46.380
Mr. Trump, we understand we're going to, you know, they call him your excellencies. He talks about
00:35:51.100
many times that he has talked about. We understand you have some problems. We're going to go back to
00:35:56.620
China, we're going to talk, and then we're going to come back. And, and Roger, in the weeks following
00:36:01.420
that, that's when we had the Wuhan pandemic. That's when COVID-19 came about. And that's when we started to
00:36:08.620
see, you know, basically, the entire world shut down. And you look at what our CIA has done, Roger, you look at our
00:36:17.020
federal law enforcement, these people in the intelligence communities, their involvement in this stuff, and the
00:36:23.260
amount of people that died, in coordination with the Democrat governor sending people into nursing homes. And you
00:36:29.420
look at this activity, Roger, there has to be a complete purge of everybody involved with any of
00:36:36.060
these agencies. Because when we examine the precipice the United States was on, renegotiating a trade
00:36:43.180
policy with China, reestablishing our dominance on the world stage, just to have that ripped away. It
00:36:48.380
wasn't just China that did it. It was elements of our own intelligence communities working with people
00:36:54.380
like Dr. Anthony Fauci that shipped the Chinese, these dangerous bioweapons and COVID-19 and all
00:37:00.860
these different things. They had the bio labs in China. They were working on this stuff. And we're
00:37:06.220
four years later now, Roger. And I think there's a lot of people, especially in the mainstream media,
00:37:11.180
who worked in coordination with these people that want us to forget exactly what happened. Well,
00:37:16.380
we're not forgetting what happened. And I think, you know, when you examine the activities of James Comey,
00:37:21.740
here's a guy that deserves to be in Gitmo. When you examine the activities of Lisa Page and Peter
00:37:27.980
Strzok, two people in the FBI, criminals, they deserve to be alongside James Comey in another cell.
00:37:33.980
I mean, they have a track record, Roger, of the worst violations of the law that we've ever seen.
00:37:40.780
And they continue to get away with this. And they get away with it because we refuse really to address
00:37:46.620
the problem. And I think that's what the fear is with Kash Patel, Roger. Now,
00:37:50.540
you've known Kash Patel for a long time. What kind of reform do you think we'd see if this guy
00:37:55.820
is placed as the FBI director? I mean, that would be a transformative pick for President Trump,
00:38:01.180
really somebody who would push the agency to really act as it's supposed to,
00:38:06.380
to protect the United States, not to attack people inside of it, no?
00:38:09.420
You know, Kash Patel, who's been with us here on the Stone Zone a number of times,
00:38:14.460
first of all, he's a brilliant guy. I mean, he's a brilliant guy.
00:38:17.260
And he's got diverse experience. He's worked as a federal prosecutor. As I said, he was the acting
00:38:26.140
chief of staff for the Department of Defense. That's a massive managerial job, by the way,
00:38:32.700
chief counsel to the House Intelligence Committee. He's perfectly qualified for this job because he is
00:38:41.660
really the one who conducted the investigation by the House Intelligence Committee under Chairman
00:38:47.660
Devin Nunes. He has intimate knowledge of who in the FBI was deeply involved in this illicit,
00:38:55.980
illegal effort to spy on Donald Trump, which, as I just said, is even more extensive than we knew at
00:39:03.180
the time. I mean, planting a honeypot women on the plane infiltrating Trump's campaign,
00:39:11.740
first of all, it's very 1970s. But secondarily, this is, according to a whistleblower, this is an
00:39:18.940
off-the-books operation that they kept out of the computers reporting directly to the director of the
00:39:24.700
FBI. This is unbelievable. And then, of course, there was Christopher Wray, who actually temporarily
00:39:35.740
put out the idea that nobody really shot at Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, that he really wasn't
00:39:42.620
shot at. Well, first of all, tell that to the family of Cory Comparatori, the brave firefighter who
00:39:49.340
took one in the head, shielding his daughter and his wife from a gunman. And now tell us that no one
00:39:56.540
was shot? He retracted that very quickly, as you know. But the FBI's conduct, even in the Butler
00:40:05.580
question, is not credible. We have an FBI who's telling us that Thomas Matthew Crooks is the shooter,
00:40:14.380
that he acted alone, that a 20-year-old has no social media profile whatsoever. He left no footprints
00:40:23.980
online. He's never done a search. He's never been on any website. That's not credible. That's just not
00:40:31.100
credible. Then we have pictures of him on a cell phone. He's talking to somebody. Who could he be
00:40:38.380
talking to a Confederate? But the FBI tells us that they can't get at the information that's encrypted
00:40:48.220
in his cell phone. And they tell us that Apple will not turn over his cell phone records, which is
00:40:54.380
interesting because in my case, they handed over my Apple records to Robert Mueller and his thugs
00:41:02.460
without a subpoena. They did it voluntarily. When it came to the San Bernardino shooter, however,
00:41:08.780
who killed dozens of people, they thought it would be an invasion of his privacy if Apple turned over
00:41:15.980
his records to the FBI. I can't think of any agency that needs a top-to-bottom cleaning
00:41:21.820
more than the FBI. What we do not need is some bureaucrat who doesn't have the courage to seek
00:41:30.220
justice. Let's be clear. This isn't about revenge. It's about everybody being treated equally. In my
00:41:37.020
case, in the case of General Flynn, even in Robert Mueller's final report, he conceded it hadn't broken
00:41:42.700
any laws. So they had to invent this process crime of theoretically lying under oath to the House
00:41:52.140
Intelligence Committee. I did, by the way, definitely make misstatements, but they weren't willful.
00:41:57.420
They were either failure of memory, but most importantly, they were immaterial. That wasn't
00:42:04.060
hiding any underlying crime, such as collaboration with WikiLeaks, because there was no collaboration
00:42:11.260
with WikiLeaks. I must say my indictment is brilliantly constructed by the evil Andrew Weissman,
00:42:19.020
and that's kind of typical of his body of work, shall we say. You have an extraordinary series now,
00:42:25.740
I noticed on Slingshot, starting to expose his epic corruption. That series you're writing is so good,
00:42:34.540
it should become a documentary, by the way. But I can't think of any agency that needs reform,
00:42:40.860
top-to-bottom reform, more than the FBI. And I cannot think of anyone who is better qualified to do that
00:42:48.140
than Kash Patel. So look, I'm praying that he gets the job. I don't have any inside knowledge. I've let
00:42:55.660
the President know my views on this. I hope he will do the right thing. I think he's obviously
00:43:02.060
the man for the job. In the meantime, Troy, as you know, our country tiptoes closer and closer to World
00:43:10.940
World War III, in what looks to me like a direct response to Donald Trump's election, the fact that
00:43:19.020
the people voted overwhelmingly for peace. First, our Secretary of State Antony Blinken says, we're
00:43:26.460
going to get every dollar out the door to Ukraine that we can between now and the time we leave office.
00:43:34.940
This blows my mind in itself. We have 360,000 homeless veterans in this country.
00:43:44.620
But we're going to ship money to Ukraine so they can buy more weapons. It really boggles the mind. And
00:43:51.180
now you have this decision, and this is not the first time, but now it's formalized, in which Joe Biden
00:43:58.300
has told President Zelensky that it's okay with us if they want to use US-supplied NATO long-range
00:44:08.540
missiles to hit targets in Russia. Now, on this show, I played a video that you sent me in which
00:44:15.100
Vladimir Putin makes it pretty clear that if that happens, that he will retaliate. There's a move now,
00:44:21.900
this is my question for you, Troy, there's a move now in the House to impeach Joe Biden over this
00:44:30.220
unauthorized act of war. Tom Massey from Kentucky, who's a Libertarian Republican, despite the fact that he
00:44:38.540
supported Ron DeSantis, I think he's a very good man, he's leading this charge. Now, they were trying to impeach
00:44:45.580
Donald Trump right up to the moment he left office. So don't tell me, oh, the timing's immaterial or
00:44:51.100
inappropriate. What do you think of this effort to impeach Joe Biden?
00:44:54.860
Well, Roger, you know, it's kind of an interesting situation because what we have is a guy on his way
00:45:00.940
out the door who really is doing an unbelievable amount of damage to this country. Now, I think,
00:45:08.700
you know, they've kind of made their own bed with this problem, Roger, because they've refused to
00:45:12.860
address Biden's cognitive decline for four years. This has been a problem since before he even took
00:45:19.500
the office, where we all looked at him and said, there's no way that this guy is capable of being
00:45:23.820
president. And now the people behind Joe Biden, not Joe, I mean, Joe Biden's wandering around a
00:45:29.500
rainforest. In fact, we have clips of it. He has no idea what's going on. The press was asking questions.
00:45:34.780
We're going to show clips of that. He has no idea what's going on. The people behind Joe Biden
00:45:39.100
are now orchestrating the beginning of World War Three. And it puts Donald Trump in a terrible
00:45:44.460
position because the Ukrainians have full access to these missiles now and they have permission to
00:45:50.380
shoot them into Russian territory. So if you're Vladimir Putin, you've got missiles coming into
00:45:54.940
your country, possibly hitting civilians, killing people. And your only means of response is to attack
00:46:02.540
Ukraine further, which would be an escalation of war and kill your own people as well as more Ukrainians,
00:46:08.060
or just sit back and let them bomb you and wait for Donald Trump to take office.
00:46:12.460
So really, you know, it's kind of a catch 22, Roger, because what do you do? I think if you're
00:46:18.060
Congress, impeachment is one mode. I would say, you know, really, this should have been addressed
00:46:25.280
years ago when we knew that President Biden had problems and he should have been 25th Amendment.
00:46:31.300
They should have had that, at least argued for that since the beginning. In fact, Roger,
00:46:35.200
the first appearance I ever made on this show was actually talking with you as a guest about Biden
00:46:41.280
and the 25th Amendment. So we're in this position now. I think they need to examine how they could
00:46:46.660
possibly cut off funding. I think we need to examine how it could possibly freeze some of these
00:46:52.240
departments, some of these departments that Anthony Blinken has said are shipping over billions of dollars
00:46:57.060
to Ukraine. And Congress needs to act within its full authority to restrict the purse as much as it
00:47:03.020
possibly can in these last couple months, because we've never seen anything like this. Roger, you've
00:47:07.600
seen so many transitions. Have you ever seen an administration leaving provoke a war to this
00:47:14.540
level before? I mean, it's like unfounded territory. Well, the other thing that's interesting, of course,
00:47:20.560
is General Flynn was on with us, I guess, two days ago and had the most succinct analysis of this
00:47:29.140
because he correctly points that the Ukrainians don't want war, that they're ready to end the war.
00:47:35.720
The Russians certainly don't want this war to continue. They're both ready to end this war.
00:47:41.200
So the provocateur here is our State Department. It's our government. The fact that all this time,
00:47:52.440
since the beginning of hostilities began, we've never had any peace negotiations. We've never had any
00:47:58.160
talks. There's no effort to resolve this peacefully. Joe Biden blurted out at the very beginning that
00:48:06.120
he would have been willing to give the Russians certain parts of Ukraine, specifically the Donbass,
00:48:13.200
I believe, in order to resolve that. So his puppet master shut him up quickly. Donald Trump,
00:48:20.640
I think, is showing extraordinary leadership here. He's trying to avert World War III. He has called on
00:48:27.000
President Zelensky and Vladimir Putin to meet with him as soon as possible. He's a dealmaker. We know
00:48:35.280
that. I think this matter can be resolved. And that's why they're so hysterical. My other great fear,
00:48:42.960
I'm certainly not an economist, but my other great fear is that they're going to try to badly damage
00:48:49.440
the economy before Trump leaves, to leave him a flaming wreck, both on the world scene and also here with
00:48:58.060
our economy. Although it'd be tough for things to get much worse than they are right now. I noticed
00:49:05.440
that you sent me a couple of interesting things about Tom Homan. This is another one of the real
00:49:11.000
standout appointees. He is going to be the immigration czar. People say that the idea of
00:49:21.840
deporting illegals, and I think we may have more than 20 million in the country, according to the
00:49:27.360
people I know and respect, that that can't be done, that it's logistically impossible.
00:49:35.360
A, they don't know Tom Homan, and B, they don't know history. President Dwight Eisenhower deported
00:49:43.600
1.3 violent illegals during his presidency. So tell us about Homan's priorities here. I think we
00:49:52.940
have a video. I'm not sure about that. Yes, we do, Roger. We can roll that video. Tom Homan
00:49:57.080
laid out basically his top three priorities upon taking office. People just need to watch this,
00:50:03.120
because the direct speaking, that's what we need in government. That's what we have been lacking
00:50:08.320
for so long. These people that dance around the answers. Homan gives three straight priorities here
00:50:12.480
that he's going to be doing as soon as he gets into his position, as soon as Trump takes office.
00:50:17.220
Let's roll that, then get Roger's thoughts on this fantastic immigration plan.
00:50:21.420
A lot of people have wondered, how is this going to work? So how will it work?
00:50:25.020
Well, look, I think the president's been clear on the stage. As far as the deportation operation,
00:50:29.300
we will prioritize public safety threats and national security threats, because they're the
00:50:34.360
biggest, they pose the biggest danger to the United States. He's got three rails. So we'll do
00:50:40.020
the deportation operation with the priorities I just talked to, out of the gate. That'd be the
00:50:43.860
priorities. Second thing is secure that border. Lock that border down and catch release and secure
00:50:48.080
the border. The third rail is we got over 300,000 missing children. Over half a million children
00:50:55.040
have been trafficked into the United States. This administration released them
00:50:57.860
to unbedded sponsors, and they can't find 300,000. And based on my three and a half decades,
00:51:03.040
some of these children are in forced labor. We already found some in forced labor. Some
00:51:05.860
are in forced sex trafficking. Some of them are pedophiles. We need to save these children.
00:51:11.880
Just Roger, unbelievable stuff. What do you think about Homan bringing up the fact that there's
00:51:16.280
300,000 missing children, something that just gets glossed over so much?
00:51:19.660
The fact that he has pledged to make this among his highest priorities is heartening.
00:51:29.180
Your heart just has to break for the idea of 300,000 people, most of them, though many of them
00:51:36.080
are dead, unfortunately, killed in ritualistic murders or through them being used in sex trafficking.
00:51:45.900
Others are just still accurately being used and being sex trafficking even today. If there's one
00:51:52.300
man in the country who can find these children who are still with us and save them, it's Tom Homan.
00:51:59.740
This, to me, is among the president's very best appointments. He is a good man. He's a tough man.
00:52:08.540
And he knows this business. He started out as a lowly border agent himself. I've seen pictures
00:52:14.220
of him in his younger days. This is, I think, among the president's best appointments. All right,
00:52:23.340
Well, Roger, on a lighter note, we have Joe Biden yesterday at the G20 summit in Brazil. He's
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walking around South America. He's been in the rain forest, which is just bizarre. Who knows what he's
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doing? But he was really, like, wandering around, almost lost yesterday. This kind of goes along
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with what we were saying earlier about the 25th Amendment, about problems about his health concerns.
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And, you know, I think it's still a relevant issue. So let's roll that and get your thoughts on
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Biden's G20. And is this G20? Is this where they kind of colluded to launch World War III? Because it
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does seem kind of odd, doesn't it, that this thing happens? And either the day after, the day prior,
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you have the U.S. authorizing these missiles, and we had news this morning that British missiles have
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also been authorized to strike into Russia, and Zelensky has used them already. So let's roll this
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clip of Biden at G20 and ask Roger, is this where they planned World War III?
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He may not even know that we gave NATO this permission.
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I still question whether Joe ever knew about or saw the letter that was released on a Sunday afternoon in which he dropped out of the race.
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A high-level Democrat source told me the previous Friday, he said at exactly 4.30, there will be a letter released from Biden saying that he's dropping from the race.
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And I saw Biden that the very next day on Saturday somewhere online saying, I'm not dropping out of this race under any circumstances.
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So I called my source and I said, are you sticking by your prediction?
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The letter, he said, won't be on White House stationery.
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I don't think he's been in charge for some time.
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They're probably even angrier at him in view of the fact that he was all smiles when he was meeting with Donald Trump.
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He sure looked like a man who voted for Donald Trump.
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And as we talked about in the show, that bright red dress that Jill won on Election Day, what was that about?
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By the way, I point out that the Kamala campaign asked Jill to do a number of campaign events, and she refused to do them.
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So Joe Biden, who got 71 percent of the vote in the Democrat primary, who rolled up 17 million votes of Democrat primary voters,
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any way you slice it, he earned his party's nomination only to be replaced by a woman who nobody voted for.
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The whole thing boggles the mind, particularly when you consider that the people who preach to us constantly about democracy
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were involved in an entirely undemocratic process.
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But I do want to point out that at this point, Donald Trump is doing so well, and the opposition, the deep state,
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their Democrat allies and their allies in the fake news media, they're apoplectic, they're hysterical, and that makes them dangerous.
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So I'm calling on everybody watching us here today on The Stone Zone to please join us in praying for the safety of President Donald Trump and his family.
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I said this the other day on an interview, said it again with Ed Henry at Newsmax.
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There is no question that somebody, most likely with the acquiescence or the involvement of the government, tried to kill him twice before.
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And I don't think that they will hesitate to try again.
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So on that note, please join us in praying for the president.
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On behalf of Troy Smith, my co-host at Slingshot.news, you want to check out this new series he's doing on the most corrupt prosecutor in American history, Andrew Weissman, and myself.
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A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
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Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.