The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:10.040 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:13.640 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:19.800 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:25.140 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:30.760 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:36.080 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:44.000 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone. And yes, again, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:49.560 You may have seen online that I am contemplating putting together an investor group in an attempt to buy InfoWars out of bankruptcy.

00:01:01.800 Now, the bankruptcy judge in that case has not made final decisions regarding the disposition of Alex Jones's assets,

00:01:11.000 but it appears likely to me that he will be ordered to surrender and divest all of his assets in a bankruptcy sale.

00:01:21.860 And therefore, perhaps a reasonable offer by the bankruptcy court will be entertained.

00:01:28.740 I myself, of course, don't have the funding to do this, but I may put together an investor group who does have the funding to do this.

00:01:37.960 Stay tuned.

00:01:38.660 There's a lot to talk about today, but when I learned that Colonel John Mills was available to be a guest,

00:01:46.940 well, I jumped at the opportunity to have him with us today.

00:01:50.980 He is a national security professional with service in five eras.

00:01:56.440 The Cold War, the so-called peace dividend, the war on terror, and now the world in chaos.

00:02:04.420 He is a former director of cybersecurity policy, strategy, and international affairs at the Department of Defense.

00:02:13.340 He is now a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

00:02:18.920 And when it comes to foreign policy, defense, and even cyber issues, he is one of the individuals that I respect the most,

00:02:28.080 Colonel John Mills.

00:02:29.100 Welcome back in the Stone Zone.

00:02:32.600 Oh, Roger, thank you.

00:02:33.900 It's an honor to be on the show.

00:02:35.620 And also, I'm coming on board to Liberty University as a professor, adjunct professor of government affairs in the graduate school.

00:02:45.740 Wow, that's very exciting.

00:02:47.080 I think young people can learn an enormous amount about you.

00:02:51.700 You know, Colonel Mills, I think with this bogus trial in New York and all the focus on that,

00:03:00.880 all the focus on what will happen next regarding the sentencing of President Donald Trump in that matter coming up July 12th,

00:03:10.620 there are a lot of things happening on the world stage while they didn't get as much coverage as they might have normally gotten.

00:03:18.860 Let me start with this one.

00:03:20.800 If I'm correct, Joe Biden's State and Defense Department has now approved the use of U.S. missiles to strike targets inside Russia.

00:03:34.420 They tried to walk that back a little bit by saying, well, only targets inside Russia that are near the border.

00:03:42.180 But this is almost unthinkable.

00:03:45.000 It seems to me to be an obvious provocation for war. 0.85

00:03:49.900 But what is your thinking?

00:03:52.780 Yeah, Roger, thank you.

00:03:54.940 I was actually just reading about that.

00:03:56.860 You have to point all national security decisions with the Biden team toward Jake Sullivan, Jake the Snake Sullivan, who has zero experience in uniform.

00:04:10.880 I think zero experience running anything except running his mouth.

00:04:16.880 He's the one who is making these decisions.

00:04:20.060 And this is—two can play this game.

00:04:23.540 And I would—we're going to be firing missiles into Russian territory. 0.95

00:04:31.720 Now, he's parsing it.

00:04:33.020 They're going, well, it's only targets that are close to the border.

00:04:37.660 Parsing doesn't work in the real world when you're dealing with nation states that want to topple America and have nuclear weapons.

00:04:45.380 And I'm talking about Russia, but Russia is really working for China.

00:04:49.200 This whole situation in Ukraine is—ladies and gentlemen, we have to constantly remind ourselves this is part of the no-limits agreement to topple America, with China as the senior partner, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela as the junior partners. 0.99

00:05:09.620 This is very dangerous, and I don't think Jake Sullivan is thinking this through, and decisions like this—I've sat on these decisions like this before at the National Security Council.

00:05:21.680 They don't come lightly, and I'm very disappointed if we have uniformed military members endorsing this and thinking this is a good idea.

00:05:30.980 Jake Sullivan, of course, embroiled deeply in the Russian collusion hoax.

00:05:35.760 Don't listen to me. Listen to the special report of—pardon me, the final report of Special Counsel John Durham.

00:05:44.020 It was Jake Sullivan and Hillary Clinton herself who knew that there was no Russian alpha bank computer terminal or connection to Trump Tower, but he authorized the dissemination of that information.

00:05:57.800 Anyway, Jake Sullivan doesn't get prosecuted when he breaks the law, but I get prosecuted when I didn't break the law.

00:06:06.840 It would be funny if it hadn't been so incredibly expensive that Jake Sullivan, even in government, is amazing, considering his involvement in the Russian collusion hack.

00:06:21.160 Speaking of that, I mean, our own Secretary of State, who is as bad at guitar playing as he is at Statescraft, he was the guy who organized those who were the 51 current and former intelligence operatives and officers who co-signed a letter claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop had, quote,

00:06:44.600 All the hallmarks of Russian disinformation, claimed that, claimed that in a debate, it was a lie in a Delaware courtroom just last week, became very clear that the government admits that Hunter Biden's laptop is completely and totally real.

00:07:03.420 And the crimes that are documented there go far beyond this minor buying a gun while having a drug addiction.

00:07:16.500 While that is serious and many people, overwhelmingly minorities, have gone to jail for it, the larger crimes here of essentially lobbying on behalf of foreign powers, 0.84

00:07:30.600 influence peddling on behalf of foreign powers without filing a foreign agents registration act or the willful decision by prosecutors in Delaware to let the statute of limitations on tax evasion run out are egregious examples of the double standard.

00:07:52.960 Colonel Mills, Colonel Mills, we also read, and I think we've got a headline on this, in what appears to be retaliation for the decision to use U.S., also allied missiles to strike targets inside Russia,

00:08:09.960 it appears that Vladimir Putin has moved nuclear submarines into the Gulf of Mexico, into very close to our shores.

00:08:20.360 What is your analysis of this?

00:08:24.840 Yeah, thank you, Roger.

00:08:26.360 This is a return to Cold War days, where there used to be very regular visits by Russian long-range bombers, by Russian submarines, Russian warships.

00:08:37.760 Yes, Cuba should be now looked at as a subcontractor to Venezuela, who's the prime subcontractor to China for influence operations in the right off 90 miles south of Key West.

00:08:55.700 This is extremely dangerous, provocative.

00:08:57.920 I would suggest we have had a second missile crisis in Cuba for potentially years.

00:09:05.040 When China announced, when Tony Blinken was desperately trying to go to China on his apology tour last year in 2023,

00:09:16.900 China had already announced that they were helping Russia reopen the spy base at Lourdes, Cuba, just kind of to the left and a little bit below Havana.

00:09:28.180 Now, I suggest that that Lourdes spy base has never been closed.

00:09:32.740 There's actually documents going back to the 90s, where China was actually involved in the Lourdes spy base.

00:09:38.540 And Russia announced, because of budget reasons, they closed in 2020, or excuse me, the year 2000.

00:09:44.500 I don't think they ever actually closed Lourdes.

00:09:46.200 So I would suggest, and when Blinken left in his disastrous visit with Xi, where he did this bizarre semi-bow, semi-back pain.

00:09:58.300 It was, if you're going to bow, at least bow.

00:10:00.240 It was a horrible photo. 0.99

00:10:02.720 It was ridiculous. 0.92

00:10:04.860 If the Chinese are doing training, military, because that's what they announced when Biden left.

00:10:10.560 They said, we're not only doing the spy base, we're also doing mill-to-mill training, which is dramatically different, new, and a great provocation.

00:10:19.260 I would suggest they probably have long-range missiles already in Cuba to protect their training and their intelligence.

00:10:26.680 That's what they do on their overseas bases, such as Djibouti, where they have surface-to-air missiles because they're concerned we're going to attack their spy base in Djibouti.

00:10:36.260 And we have a base just like 10 minutes, a 10-minute drive away.

00:10:41.540 So I would suggest we already have and have had, with the Biden team, a missile crisis in Cuba already.

00:10:49.400 These long-range missiles, the S-300 and the S-400, are extremely long-range, extremely accurate, extremely powerful.

00:10:57.820 And guess what?

00:10:58.960 They're dual-use.

00:10:59.840 You can not only knock down an airliner over Orlando halfway up the Florida coast with these S-300, S-400 missiles, you can also use them to strike ground targets.

00:11:12.540 I would suggest we very likely have a missile crisis, a second missile crisis already in Cuba.

00:11:18.680 The Biden team is either not doing anything about it or we don't have any resource to actually monitor and even assess that.

00:11:26.260 Everything is always the intelligence cut line.

00:11:29.360 And if it's not above the intelligence cut line, we may actually – our immense capabilities may be collecting, but nobody is processing or acting.

00:11:38.020 I would suggest none of these things are above the intel cut line.

00:11:41.960 And so we're not really paying attention to what's going on in Cuba.

00:11:44.980 But this is a dangerous provocation, and this visit by the Russian sub and other ships is just part of this provocation.

00:11:53.520 And Jake Sullivan is doing nothing but trying to throw elections in Israel.

00:11:58.520 Let me make sure I understand you, because I think I do.

00:12:02.540 I think what you're telling me is we either don't have the capability or we're not bothering to determine whether the Chinese have already mounted missiles in Cuba.

00:12:13.700 Is that what you're telling me?

00:12:16.160 Yes.

00:12:17.560 Stunning.

00:12:18.500 Making news here, folks, right here at the Stone Zone with one of our favorite guests, Colonel John Mills.

00:12:25.820 And Colonel Mills, we're grateful to you for joining us at the last moment.

00:12:30.960 I'm delighted that you were able to join us, because I think domestic politics is really making all of these major foreign policy stories take a backseat.

00:12:41.880 I think many Americans are unaware that we continue to tiptoe towards war in two different theaters.

00:12:52.680 Several weeks ago, as you know, Iran launched a missile attack on Israel, a drone and missile attack.

00:13:02.660 We are told that not only the Iron Dome of Israel, but also anti-missile technology supplied by the United States, the Saudis, I believe the French, perhaps UK.

00:13:17.940 I'd have to go back and look.

00:13:19.660 We're successful in essentially disarming that attack.

00:13:24.320 And I believe there's one recorded death.

00:13:27.620 Could the technology really be that good?

00:13:30.260 I would suggest it was.

00:13:33.600 The score was essentially 350 to zero.

00:13:36.240 And I think that young girl that was injured in the attack in Israel actually survived.

00:13:44.020 So I'm not sure there were any.

00:13:45.780 I'm not.

00:13:46.140 I'd have to double check myself.

00:13:48.060 But yes, the score was essentially 350 to zero.

00:13:51.500 Now, I noticed this report that went right over a lot of people's heads was there was this report from two White House officials who were talking on background.

00:14:01.880 That's deep state code word for most likely Jake Sullivan whispering.

00:14:06.460 And I've been in the White House when John Brennan talked on.

00:14:11.340 It's a very common practice procedure to talk on background.

00:14:14.460 But they said they were able to disrupt the launches of even more of the Iranian missiles, which implies we were reaching in via cyber methods to make a mess out of the launch facilities at, I think it was Natanz and Isfahan.

00:14:30.840 So we were using remote cyber capabilities to reach in and make a mess because a lot of their missiles were liquid-fueled, which have an extremely complex and dangerous fueling process before firing.

00:14:45.360 And the wrong valve turned at the wrong time could be catastrophic, especially when they're launching them from underground bunkers.

00:14:53.260 One of those things cooks off underground. 0.96

00:14:55.540 It'll take out the whole facility.

00:14:57.040 So I think it really was 350 to zero, which gave the Iranians great pause, gave the Chinese great pause because they're going, wow, the coordinated—and we have to do a shout-out, UAE, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, France, the U.K., the U.S. all worked with Israel. 0.75

00:15:17.860 We've actually had these missile defense plans in place for almost 20 years for Israel.

00:15:23.080 The coordinated effort worked very well, very well.

00:15:26.500 Now, some have said, well, we tipped them off.

00:15:28.400 They knew—I'm not totally sure about that.

00:15:32.700 And you just don't—we're going to let you shoot 350 times at Israel, but we're going to make—but we want you to miss every time. 0.79

00:15:38.960 Yeah, that's not what happens.

00:15:40.360 And so I think it actually really worked remarkably well.

00:15:44.420 But I still—that doesn't in any way release Jake Sullivan or any of the other smarmy characters from all the games they've been playing on this and many other topics, including with you, Roger.

00:15:58.760 Colonel Mills, we have had an open border now for essentially the duration of the Biden administration.

00:16:09.160 Experts tell me that the estimate of 10 million illegals in the country is likely low, some say quite low.

00:16:18.920 We had Christy Hutchison on this program not long ago.

00:16:23.980 She did a great job of outlining a number of the weapons that have come across the border, not just people, but weapons.

00:16:31.620 On a scale of 1 to 10, maybe that's not the way to do it, but on a scale of 1 to 10, what is the likelihood of some kind of terrorist attack on American soil?

00:16:44.020 I think about a 15, Roger.

00:16:46.920 It's—this is a very serious matter.

00:16:49.160 I just had breakfast this morning with somebody who knows this topic extremely well, a quite noteworthy figure, and this is one of the topics we were going over.

00:16:59.180 Absolutely, they are pre-positioning special operators for coordinated assaults.

00:17:04.380 And I just had an article come out in Epoch Times about the vulnerability of Department of Defense bases, you know, and the number of Chinese.

00:17:12.380 I mean, at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, which—right next to Kennedy Space Center, which launches all of the classified spy satellites.

00:17:23.220 You know, we had three Chinese nationals there picked up who were scuba diving right offshore.

00:17:31.240 All you need is a sniper rifle or a small rocket, and you could take out a lot of very expensive things we're trying to launch into orbit.

00:17:39.720 We had three Chinese nationals at Key West in 2020 were convicted of probing the different naval facilities on Key West.

00:17:49.440 Isn't that suspicious? Were they just trying to figure out our capabilities as they built up in Cuba? 0.68

00:17:55.020 And then, oh, right, on the Bahamas also.

00:17:57.520 So these Chinese special operators are real—and they're always pivoting for whatever reason. 0.97

00:18:02.340 They're muscling in on legal cannabis operations.

00:18:06.320 Why?

00:18:06.680 Because the unbankable cash of state legal cannabis is a great funding mechanism to pay the $250 a night for all these—suddenly they were violent transgender protesters yesterday. 0.83

00:18:22.140 Now they're Hamas and Palestinian protesters.

00:18:25.680 $250 a night.

00:18:26.760 Where's that money coming from?

00:18:28.080 I would suggest legal cannabis being skimmed by Chinese special operators.

00:18:31.700 There's documented cases all over the country, Chinese muscling in on these operations, unbankable—it's a Disneyland for skimming operations. 0.98

00:18:40.240 And what are they doing?

00:18:41.360 They're using it to turn right around and use an influence operations right on the American street, right in the American city.

00:18:48.140 We had 30,000 rioters conducting an insurrection at the White House last weekend, almost zero media coverage.

00:18:56.840 Who's paying them?

00:18:57.700 Chinese special operators skimming legal cannabis, absolutely.

00:19:03.360 Also Soros, also the classic red-green thread of illegal activity.

00:19:09.360 But yeah, Chinese special operators using that money for influence operations.

00:19:13.760 And believe me, they always like to gravitate toward the gun ranges.

00:19:18.840 They really like it.

00:19:19.480 Why?

00:19:19.760 You can't even touch a gun.

00:19:20.820 Even if you're in the police or the military in China, they have this—they're very bizarre, their handling rules on guns.

00:19:28.520 So they are definitely stocking up on weapons.

00:19:31.660 They are definitely—this is a coordinated campaign and effort.

00:19:35.520 Colonel Mills, a number of media reports in the last week about penetrations of our various military facilities, mostly by Chinese.

00:19:46.480 What do you make of that?

00:19:47.660 Yeah, this is absolute coordinated—in military terms in the U.S. and joint doctrine, we would call this strategic reconnaissance, strategic reconnaissance.

00:19:59.800 They are definitely checking the readiness of our facilities.

00:20:03.900 I mean, Quantico, which is about a 10 to 15-minute drive from right where I'm sitting right now, you know, they had two—it was Jordanian nationals.

00:20:12.400 There was one on the terror watch list, both illegals coming across the southern border.

00:20:17.240 This is part of the coordinated campaign.

00:20:19.200 But Chinese nationals all over the place in Alaska, right where some of our Navy special—I was about to reveal location here—where some of our Navy special warfare units in Virginia.

00:20:33.540 You know, they're running a biolab out in, what is it, Reedley, California.

00:20:40.840 This is insanity.

00:20:42.460 I mean, Gordon Chang has reported all over this.

00:20:44.520 This is insanity.

00:20:45.680 You bet.

00:20:46.380 This is absolute willful probing of our bases, checking on our readiness.

00:20:50.840 And when the green light is given, yeah, they will actively take up the arms they cached.

00:20:56.260 This is serious business.

00:20:58.140 And media is freaked out because 60—what is it—67 percent of registered voters totally agree with mass deportation.

00:21:07.400 I saw those polling numbers.

00:21:09.540 They were very impressive.

00:21:11.240 Colonel Mills, you have written a number of books, but you have a new book.

00:21:14.500 We want to help you sell some of those.

00:21:16.580 Tell us about your new book, your newest book.

00:21:19.380 Oh, yeah, thank you, Raj.

00:21:21.400 Thank you so much.

00:21:22.840 It's a war against the deep state, the foundation of the mass surveillance system, which I helped set up under lawful purposes in the original.

00:21:30.740 It's been weaponized against the American people.

00:21:33.560 Also, this helped the rise of the unlawful fourth, fifth, and sixth branches of government.

00:21:39.320 You can get this, Lindell, my store.

00:21:42.260 Lindell, my store.

00:21:43.580 Use—what is your code, Roger?

00:21:46.720 Probably stone.

00:21:48.340 Stone.

00:21:48.600 Yeah, use code stone.

00:21:50.620 Get autographed copies at my store, and unautographed.

00:21:55.260 Just go straight to Amazon is the best.

00:21:57.260 Thank you, Roger.

00:21:58.440 There you go, folks.

00:22:00.020 War against the deep state.

00:22:01.440 Check it out.

00:22:02.660 Colonel Mills, I'm going to reach out to you and see if we can't feature that also at the store at StoneZone.com.

00:22:09.400 It would be my privilege to do that.

00:22:12.060 Thank you, Roger.

00:22:13.100 Absolutely.

00:22:13.540 All right.

00:22:14.960 We are out of time.

00:22:16.720 I want to thank Colonel John Mills for joining us today.

00:22:19.880 The man I respect, probably among a handful when it comes to foreign policy, defense, and geopolitical issues.

00:22:29.380 Colonel Mills, thank you so much for joining us in the zone today.

00:22:33.280 Thank you, Roger.

00:22:35.400 Always an honor to be on your show.

00:22:37.640 Great.

00:22:38.220 Thank you.

00:22:39.420 All right.

00:22:39.920 Folks, we saw last week the decision by a federal judge to incarcerate Steve Bannon in his contempt of Congress conviction.

00:22:55.920 That is a conviction that is yet again being appealed.

00:23:00.680 In my opinion, Mr. Bannon had the finest criminal defense lawyer in the country, David Schoen, represent him.

00:23:10.920 Schoen told me on numerous occasions that he thought the underpinnings of Steve Bannon's appeal were incredibly solid.

00:23:19.680 There are important questions here of executive privilege.

00:23:23.800 The hearing for that was early last week.

00:23:29.680 And I think David Schoen, literally a very respected veteran of the criminal justice system, was literally shocked by what he found in court.

00:23:44.140 This is kind of long, but it's well worth it.

00:23:47.040 Let's run this tape.

00:23:48.300 Now, Steve Bannon's attorney, Dave Schoen, he also represented Donald Trump in his second impeachment trial.

00:23:54.960 David, thank you so much for being here this evening.

00:23:57.880 We are all trying to unpack all that happened in the courthouse today.

00:24:01.000 And I want to ask you about what has been described as a pretty heated moment between you and Judge Carl Nichols.

00:24:07.460 After he ordered Bannon to report to prison next month, you objected.

00:24:11.100 Obviously, you are his counsel.

00:24:12.680 And The New York Times was reporting that Judge Nichols responded in a way that let him, you know, he wasn't too thrilled with your response, saying,

00:24:18.700 One thing I can need you to learn as a lawyer is that when a judge has decided, you do not get up and yell at them.

00:24:25.320 Look, I know you're an advocate for your client.

00:24:27.560 Explain your reaction.

00:24:29.020 Were you surprised by his decision to order him to go to jail?

00:24:34.820 Shocked by it.

00:24:35.860 It goes against everything that he has said in this case.

00:24:38.520 Judge Nichols found substantial questions for the appeal, said twice that Bannon should not be serving his time while the appeals process runs.

00:24:45.740 The appeal process has not run.

00:24:47.960 There's nothing about the panel decision that changed that.

00:24:51.200 Judge Nichols said that the definition of willfully used in this case cannot be reconciled with the modern or traditional definition of willfully.

00:24:59.700 Laura, you know, I'm a big fan of yours, but I have to correct something you said in the monologue.

00:25:03.300 Former President Trump absolutely did invoke executive privilege.

00:25:06.800 Nobody disputes that.

00:25:08.080 Not only that, he wrote a letter before the trial started reaffirming it in case anyone had a question about it.

00:25:14.220 And that's all in the record.

00:25:15.360 That's different from the Navarro case.

00:25:17.800 And Judge Nichols even said today, well, you know, the court of appeals opinion could have mentioned that, but they didn't, and so on.

00:25:23.820 The court of appeals opinion is an abomination.

00:25:25.980 They misstate the facts.

00:25:27.300 They omit the facts.

00:25:28.580 They leave out the primary argument.

00:25:30.220 The primary argument here is that in the 60 years since this Licavoli case, which says willfully, solely in the context of this statute, means did you get a subpoena and comply or not comply with no reason matters.

00:25:42.460 60 years since then, the court has, the definition of willfully has evolved.

00:25:46.980 So in 2019, the court said, literally, when Congress wants to say an act is criminal, then they say willfully, you must know that the act you did was illegal or wrong, or we don't attribute criminal liability to it.

00:26:00.040 That's this case.

00:26:00.700 That's what Nichols had found earlier.

00:26:02.600 Let me unpack a little bit of this.

00:26:03.960 And certainly, I'm not above clarification if you think it's necessary to do so.

00:26:07.360 But let me talk from the audience's perspective on the case you just described.

00:26:10.880 And just in plain speak, this comes down to the notion of advice of counsel and whether that was a willful action by Steve Bannon to not comply with the subpoena.

00:26:19.820 If it was advice of counsel, I think he wanted to argue that, listen, it wasn't a deliberate act.

00:26:25.040 It was advice of counsel he was following, and that's why he didn't provide the information to respond.

00:26:29.940 The court, though, did find, although they did wait some time, that they were, their hands were tied on the idea of it had to be a deliberate, intentional act.

00:26:37.900 And that was enough to go forward in this case.

00:26:40.300 And so here you are, getting ready to appeal this matter, likely, I'm assuming, all the way up to the Supreme Court if necessary.

00:26:46.120 Peter Navarro, though, did try to appeal to the Supreme Court.

00:26:49.180 What would make this instance different to you?

00:26:53.440 Peter Navarro's case is completely different.

00:26:55.420 There was no executive privilege ever invoked in the case.

00:26:57.720 That's what the court found.

00:26:58.940 And there's no advice of counsel.

00:27:00.680 Listen, the cases even before Licavoli and in the Licavoli case, the 1961 case that Nichols says he was following, the defendant was permitted to testify as to his reasons.

00:27:09.820 At the government's behest, this Department of Justice behest, Bannon was barred from testifying.

00:27:14.600 Costello was barred from testifying about what happened and what their reasons were.

00:27:18.960 And the jury was told they may not consider the reasons.

00:27:21.520 Remember, Costello got the subpoena, not Bannon.

00:27:24.520 Costello, as an experienced lawyer, told Bannon, executive privilege has been invoked.

00:27:29.480 You may not comply, period.

00:27:31.780 It would be against the law.

00:27:33.080 It's not your privilege.

00:27:34.260 But, he told the committee, if you take him before a court and the court says privilege doesn't apply or it's not this broad, he will comply fully.

00:27:41.860 They decided not to do that.

00:27:43.060 They went on the air, posturing and so on.

00:27:45.160 They're going to pursue this criminally.

00:27:46.740 And that's what they chose to do.

00:27:47.980 We don't impose criminal liability.

00:27:50.780 Yeah.

00:27:51.040 I hear you.

00:27:51.620 Excuse me.

00:27:52.200 What is the argument you would make to the Court of Appeals or the Supreme Court that you think would allow your client not to serve those four months in jail time?

00:28:01.320 What would be a successful legal appellate argument?

00:28:04.800 Two arguments.

00:28:07.480 The definition of willfully used by the Licavoli Court that this court said their hands were tied by is no longer a valid definition of willfully in the criminal law, period.

00:28:17.360 The Supreme Court has said it since 2015.

00:28:19.960 In 2019, they said it expressly.

00:28:22.520 There's absolutely no question about it.

00:28:24.340 They say willfully means different things in different contexts.

00:28:26.540 The threshold for criminal liability is that you knew or believed you were doing something wrong.

00:28:31.120 Steve Bannon believed the only thing he could do to comply with the law was what he did in this case.

00:28:35.820 That's what his lawyer told him, and that's what he was entitled to rely on.

00:28:39.340 The jury should have been told that.

00:28:41.480 That's number one.

00:28:42.100 Number two, if you want to apply willfully this way, then you've created a separation of powers problem.

00:28:47.620 Congress isn't the final arbiter when a president or former president invokes executive privilege, period.

00:28:53.100 It's presumptively valid, and Congress can't decide that.

00:28:56.380 Go to a court.

00:28:57.240 A court could decide it, and that's what Bannon asked them to do.

00:29:00.160 They refused to do it.

00:29:01.320 There's a constitutional mandate to accommodate, try to work in accommodation.

00:29:05.200 D.C. Circuit has said that.

00:29:06.460 They refused to do it for Steve Bannon, and that's why people lose faith in the system.

00:29:11.340 We have to treat people equally.

00:29:13.460 Well, Steve Bannon has argued something different than what you were describing today.

00:29:17.380 He's talking about weaponization in more loaded terms.

00:29:21.040 He's talking about this being, um, an issue that is more broadly with the narrative we're hearing about, um, an attack on Trump, an attempt to try to suppress MAGA as well.

00:29:32.240 I mean, shutting down the MAGA movement he's accused this judge of doing.

00:29:35.480 This is, by the way, a Trump-appointed judge.

00:29:38.940 This is somebody who was a clerk, I believe, of, if I'm not mistaken, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

00:29:43.240 He's been a partner in a number of law firms as well and well-well regarded.

00:29:46.780 Does that undermine the arguments that you are now making?

00:29:51.520 I don't think so.

00:29:52.560 He undermines his own argument.

00:29:54.220 He's the one who said five or six times during the trial that he thinks Licavoli was wrongly decided, but his hands are tied.

00:30:00.400 He acknowledged today that this panel, the Court of Appeals panel, hands were tied.

00:30:04.500 The government acknowledged it.

00:30:05.720 The government argued to them, you don't have the authority to overturn Licavoli.

00:30:09.160 So nothing changed.

00:30:10.180 He shouldn't have changed his bail status.

00:30:11.540 Listen, it's not such a major event in the sense that all he could have done was let him out on bail until rehearing and rehearing on Bonk is decided.

00:30:19.200 In this case, what he did, though, is pull the rug out from under him because he has to file now.

00:30:24.180 He's going to send a person to prison who he himself has said didn't comply, who he himself has said was convicted under a definition of willfully that simply is not consistent with the law.

00:30:35.360 We don't do that.

00:30:36.560 There's no reason to send him to prison now.

00:30:38.540 Let this case play out.

00:30:39.920 This is a misdemeanor.

00:30:40.860 I hear you, David.

00:30:42.340 Of course, the judge disagrees and believes there's no more legal recourse in this action.

00:30:46.240 And that willfulness and that Licavoli case you're talking about seem to stand as precedent.

00:30:50.060 We'll see if an appellate court agrees with you.

00:30:52.600 David Schoen, thank you so much.

00:30:55.240 Thank you very much.

00:30:57.040 What you see there, folks, is not only David Schoen, who always argues his case well,

00:31:02.920 but I think there was a realization that after many years in the legal profession and all of the encouraging and positive things,

00:31:13.500 reinforcing things said by the judge in the Bannon case,

00:31:17.740 I'm told that he cut Schoen's arguments off and then handed out a 94-page decision.

00:31:26.000 That means the decision was written prior to the arguments.

00:31:30.740 Hmm.

00:31:31.140 How about that?

00:31:31.820 Anyway, we are going to watch this case very carefully.

00:31:39.420 I've had my differences with Steve Bannon.

00:31:42.080 People know that.

00:31:43.240 But at this point, I really am praying for him because I believe he is being attacked by the same people who attacked General Flynn,

00:31:51.480 who attacked me, who attacked Paul Manafort, who attacked George Papadopoulos,

00:31:57.020 who attacked Carter Page, and who attacked, today, Donald J. Trump.

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00:35:20.200 All right, we're going to do a segment here on the show that is always a great favorite.

00:35:26.020 I noticed that Tucker Carlson is going to do this in a coming-up program,

00:35:31.100 and that's where we take your questions.

00:35:33.460 So you can hit us by email with your questions by going to askstone at stone at stonezone.com.

00:35:42.580 That's stone at stonezone.com.

00:35:46.320 And we are happy to have your questions.

00:35:50.020 We try to answer them in the order that they're sent.

00:35:54.540 But if your question is not answered today, it could very well be answered,

00:35:59.220 as long as it's not outdated, not in a future show.

00:36:02.880 So let us start with the first one.

00:36:04.980 This is from Eric in Chillicothe, Ohio, asks,

00:36:11.380 what do you think of the vice presidential list that has been put forward in the media

00:36:18.180 as the final contestants for that job, those that President Trump is considering?

00:36:25.440 There's a number of names that have been floated.

00:36:29.540 It's very hard to know who really is and is not in contention.

00:36:34.180 The president has not shared that information with me.

00:36:37.780 I'm not even sure he has shared that information with all the members of his staff.

00:36:45.380 I think the four frontrunners at this juncture are Senator Marco Rubio, Senator Tim Scott,

00:36:55.640 Governor Burgum of North Dakota, and Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio.

00:37:05.660 I personally prefer a different candidate.

00:37:10.420 Elise Stefanik, I think, is on that list. 0.57

00:37:13.720 I think she would also be excellent.

00:37:16.100 And, of course, I've talked at length about the possibilities of Tulsi Gabbard,

00:37:21.980 which I find politically intriguing.

00:37:25.840 I'm not endorsing any candidate.

00:37:28.040 I'm going to be for whoever Donald Trump is for.

00:37:31.660 But I do think there are several criteria here.

00:37:34.680 First and foremost, you need to pick someone who the voters can look at

00:37:39.200 and believe that they have the experience, the gravitas, the judgment, the temperament

00:37:46.580 to be president of the United States if, God forbid, that should become a necessity.

00:37:53.260 Then and only then can you begin to look at the political aspects of this.

00:37:59.420 I think the days when one looked for geographical balance in the ticket are over.

00:38:06.660 The Internet has done that.

00:38:08.480 We are all one country.

00:38:10.600 And therefore, I'm not sure the region of the state is as important as the possibility of reaching out

00:38:19.600 to constituencies that have heretofore not been Republican.

00:38:25.060 Secondarily, I think you want somebody who is sure-footed, meaning someone who has been in politics

00:38:33.360 at the national level, someone who's not going to make mistakes on the campaign trail,

00:38:39.520 somebody who is not going to contradict the candidate for president,

00:38:43.000 somebody who understands that this is a supporting role and that the candidate for president should

00:38:50.660 never be upstaged.

00:38:53.040 Mike Pence was perfect for this job and the candidacy and the job right up until the time

00:39:00.380 that he wasn't.

00:39:02.400 Who is the president going to pick?

00:39:04.220 I don't know.

00:39:05.460 I think very highly of J.D. Vance.

00:39:08.400 I think that he may be president himself someday.

00:39:12.000 I do wonder about his only, at this point, serving in the Senate for less than two years.

00:39:19.920 Marco Rubio is my senator.

00:39:23.180 He's very good on issues in this hemisphere, Venezuela and Cuba.

00:39:27.980 But overall, his foreign policy positions are somewhat different than the president's.

00:39:33.980 He did endorse the president relatively early.

00:39:38.020 And I still am troubled by the 12th Amendment of the Constitution.

00:39:44.940 That's Article 12, Section 2, which says that while the party can nominate two individuals

00:39:52.160 who are legal residents of the same state, in the event they do so and the ticket carries

00:39:59.500 that state, they would forfeit the electoral college votes for that state.

00:40:06.580 Now, some have suggested, and there may even be a legal opinion that says this, that there's

00:40:14.040 no prohibition of the party nominating two people who live in the same state.

00:40:19.220 And as long as if they carried the state and one of them moved their official state residence

00:40:27.660 between the election and the time the electoral college met, that the second, that the 12th

00:40:35.640 Amendment problem could be addressed and would not be problematic.

00:40:40.140 I'm not an attorney, so I can't tell you whether that's accurate.

00:40:44.700 I saw Byron Donalds on a preliminary list.

00:40:48.620 I think he would be an excellent choice as well.

00:40:51.980 So, again, it's hard to know in this blizzard of information what is real.

00:40:59.720 I know the president is grappling with this decision.

00:41:03.720 He's got many good choices.

00:41:06.220 I don't expect him to decide until we get to the convention, because that's a giant, giant

00:41:12.760 news story.

00:41:15.080 I'm not sure if he wants to step on it in advance.

00:41:18.760 But the only thing predictable about Donald Trump is, of course, that he is completely and

00:41:24.360 totally unpredictable.

00:41:27.780 Let's go to the next question.

00:41:29.440 Kim and Greg from Palm Beach want to know whether I am concerned about the candidacy of Robert

00:41:37.440 F. Kennedy.

00:41:38.460 It now appears, even though I have been doubtful about this, that Kennedy will be on the ballot

00:41:44.920 in enough states to at least theoretically win 270 electoral votes.

00:41:51.180 I'm not sure where that leaves him in terms of this upcoming CNN debate.

00:41:59.180 CNN, of course, sets their own rules for participation, and they seem to only have announced the rules

00:42:06.980 after the fact.

00:42:08.480 Here is the bottom line, though.

00:42:10.700 While I like a few things that Robert Kennedy has done, his position on health freedom, for

00:42:15.740 example, I sadly conclude that a vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden.

00:42:22.300 This may not be true in every state, but it is true in most of the swing states.

00:42:27.100 A vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden, and that is distressful, in my opinion.

00:42:34.600 I'm also somewhat surprised at Robert Kennedy's choice of a running mate.

00:42:39.960 It's almost comical to see Nicole Shanahan, his running mate, online complaining about internet

00:42:49.040 censorship and the manipulation of data on the net, given the fact that her ex-husband,

00:42:56.220 Sergey Brin, the head of Google, the founder of Google, is more responsible for that manipulation

00:43:02.560 and censorship than perhaps any person alive.

00:43:06.560 Somebody should look at the work of Dr. Robert Epstein, not a conservative, not a Republican,

00:43:14.760 not even a Trump supporter, but someone who has tracked very carefully the manipulation

00:43:22.680 of data by Google and believes that it may have shifted as many as 16,000 votes in the last

00:43:32.980 election.

00:43:33.700 So I think Robert Kennedy is increasingly becoming a problem.

00:43:40.500 There is no path to 270 for him.

00:43:43.720 He is not ahead in any state.

00:43:45.760 He barely breaks double digits in any state.

00:43:49.340 He keeps pointing to certain sub-demographics in which he is running a little stronger, but

00:43:56.380 in no place is he beating either Trump or Biden.

00:43:59.620 So the chances of him actually carrying a state, and he'd have to carry several, to throw the

00:44:07.000 election into the U.S. House of Representatives, some, like my friend Laura Loomer, have expressed

00:44:14.100 a concern about that at this juncture.

00:44:16.700 I think that's unlikely.

00:44:18.340 But then I thought it was unlikely that he would get on the ballot in enough states to

00:44:24.040 constitute 270 electoral votes, and it appears that he has done so.

00:44:29.840 So let me say it again.

00:44:31.400 A vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden.

00:44:34.420 And I really sadly think it is that simple.

00:44:38.220 Again, he has a few issue positions that I agree with, that I think he's been very articulate

00:44:43.520 on, but I cannot see a path to victory for him.

00:44:46.860 I do see a potential for him denying Donald Trump enough votes so that Joe Biden can win.

00:44:55.020 So again, folks, I say it, think about it, a vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden.

00:45:02.040 Thank you very much for your question.

00:45:05.360 Here is a question from Randall.

00:45:09.400 Randall is in Boca Raton, Florida, just up the road.

00:45:14.300 What do you make of this letter?

00:45:17.380 I guess it's not a letter, but the letter, I see, released by Judge Juan Merchan regarding

00:45:24.880 a posting on the court's website in which someone claimed that they had a cousin on the jury

00:45:32.940 and that this cousin disclosed before the verdict that Donald Trump would be found guilty.

00:45:41.320 First of all, the media cover-up on this is interesting.

00:45:45.740 Very, very little mainstream coverage, despite the fact that it was Judge Merchan himself who

00:45:51.860 released the letter.

00:45:52.980 Now we're being told that the person who posted that has come forward and that they are just 0.97

00:46:00.820 a shit poster, that there's no substance behind this, that it was a hoax. 0.98

00:46:06.620 Unfortunately, the person telling us that is Norm Eisen, one of the architects of the Russian 1.00

00:46:11.920 impeachment inquiry, one of the architects of the irregularities, anomalies, and yes, perhaps

00:46:24.640 fraud in the last election.

00:46:27.280 Why would we take his word for it?

00:46:30.120 Another guy up to his knees in the effort to hijack the election if Donald Trump wins and

00:46:37.560 perhaps not certify his election in the U.S. House or in the Senate.

00:46:44.000 Wait a minute, isn't that what they accused Trump of doing and said it was a crime?

00:46:48.760 So I'm watching this story very carefully.

00:46:52.240 I saw the stories debunking it.

00:46:54.980 But if we learn more, and I think a full federal investigation is warranted, although I worry about

00:47:03.140 who would conduct that investigation, that would, of course, most likely lead to a mistrial.

00:47:09.660 I think we need more information on this point.

00:47:14.760 Folks, if you love politics, you love history, and you've always wondered who really killed

00:47:22.900 John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, well, then I recommend to you my book,

00:47:31.260 The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:47:36.180 This is a New York Times bestseller in which I make the case that Lyndon Johnson was the

00:47:42.160 head of a plot that included the Central Intelligence Agency, as Robert Kennedy has said, organized

00:47:48.920 crime, big Texas oil, and banking interests, all working in concert, each one of them with

00:47:56.700 their own motive.

00:47:57.940 I use eyewitness evidence, fingerprint evidence, and deep Texas politics to make the case that

00:48:06.800 Lyndon Johnson was the man with the most to lose.

00:48:10.640 Johnson was under investigation in two corruption scandals, the Billy Sal Estes scandal.

00:48:18.300 Billy Sal Estes was a flamboyant Texas Wheeler dealer who was kicking back to Lyndon Johnson

00:48:25.120 Johnson on federal agricultural contracts, and the Bobby Baker scandal.

00:48:31.660 Bobby Baker was the secretary of the Senate, essentially functioned as Johnson's bag man.

00:48:38.400 The hearings into Bobby Baker's activities opened on November 21, 1963.

00:48:47.200 Lyndon Johnson was in constant touch by phone to determine whether his name had yet come

00:48:54.800 up in those hearings.

00:48:56.060 So, Johnson knew he was looking at being dumped from the ticket.

00:49:01.560 Indeed, President John F. Kennedy told his assistant, his secretary, Evelyn Lincoln, on the flight

00:49:09.560 to Dallas that he had made the decision to dump Johnson, and Robert Kennedy, the attorney general, had begun telling

00:49:19.840 intimates that LBJ would be dropped from the ticket, most likely for then North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford.

00:49:30.820 So, Johnson's motive is the most acute.

00:49:35.520 If you love murder mysteries and you're still interested in who really killed John F. Kennedy,

00:49:42.200 go to themanwhokilledkennedy.com, themanwhokilledkennedy.com, and you can get your signed copy of this New York

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00:50:00.960 Amazon, let me recommend to you that you get the paperback version.

00:50:06.000 That's because it has three extra chapters, including a chapter on Lyndon Johnson approving

00:50:12.860 the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

00:50:16.900 That's right.

00:50:17.460 Israel, one of our staunchest allies, attacked and killed numerous servicemen on the decks 1.00

00:50:24.220 of the USS Liberty in an effort to blame that on Egypt as a false flag to essentially foster

00:50:33.660 a war in the Middle East.

00:50:35.560 It's all in my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.

00:50:41.740 Order your copy today.

00:50:44.400 All right, we'll go back to the question bag here.

00:50:47.460 Here is a question that comes from Sarah in New Jersey, who says,

00:50:55.140 I attended the president's rally in Wildwood, New Jersey.

00:51:00.060 It was the greatest thing I've done in my entire life.

00:51:03.480 Wow, that's pretty good.

00:51:04.800 Do you think New Jersey is in play?

00:51:08.140 Well, it's a little early to say, but I've seen polls that show President Trump within

00:51:13.780 five points in New Jersey.

00:51:16.440 The property tax issue continues to be a hot issue in that state.

00:51:21.400 Now, with former senator, pardon me, with current senator Robert Menendez, who refuses to resign

00:51:30.560 and whose colleagues will not expel him from the Senate because he's been charged but not

00:51:37.280 convicted.

00:51:38.300 I, by the way, think he's correct.

00:51:39.880 The situation with George Santos is not the norm.

00:51:45.720 Adam Clayton Powell, the legendary black congressman from Harlem, was charged but was not expelled from the House until he was convicted.

00:51:56.900 That has normally been the standard.

00:51:58.620 But Menendez has now filed to run as an independent.

00:52:05.060 I see why he's doing this.

00:52:06.880 It provides him some leverage for a potential plea bargain.

00:52:12.300 The good senator seems to be blaming the whole thing on his wife. 0.97

00:52:16.260 All of these assets that he's been caught with, gold bars and so on, he's claiming that's all the fault of his wife, pretty cowardly.

00:52:24.660 This could, however, create a three-way split.

00:52:28.620 We've seen this once before.

00:52:31.000 In 1970, in Connecticut, Senator Thomas J. Dodd was censured by his colleagues for taking money that was ostensibly raised for his campaign, but using it to pay his personal expenses.

00:52:49.220 This was a major scandal.

00:52:52.520 Dodd was not rejected from the Senate, but he was censured by his colleagues.

00:52:58.560 When it became clear that he was likely to be defeated for renomination in 1970, the Democratic Organization put forward a businessman named Alphonse Donoghue, where the anti-war forces, remember, this is the height of the Vietnam War,

00:53:19.060 who were indicted, pardon me, endorsed and nominated the Reverend Joseph Duffy, who was the head of Americans for Democratic Action and a hardcore progressive who was against the war.

00:53:33.780 In that three-way split, on election day, Republican Congressman Lowell Weicker from the 4th District of Connecticut went to the Senate.

00:53:43.360 So, could New Jersey, in a three-way split, similar to what happened in 1970, elect a Republican senator?

00:53:52.000 Curtis Bashaw won the Republican primary last week, mostly funded by the Republican bosses, the county chairman,

00:54:01.360 who under the current system, who under the current system have great influence because they control the line, which is essentially a superior ballot position.

00:54:11.920 And it is not inconceivable that he could actually be competitive for the U.S. Senate.

00:54:19.460 Republicans have not had a U.S. senator since 1978.

00:54:24.840 It's the last time New Jersey elected a Republican U.S. senator.

00:54:29.460 This, once again, a race that we'll be watching very, very closely.

00:54:34.900 I would say that Trump has to watch New Jersey.

00:54:40.920 Trump strategist Tony Fabrizio, for whom I have the highest possible regard, has said repeatedly that their campaign is looking to expand the map.

00:54:53.740 And I think that expansion could well include New Jersey.

00:54:59.960 Let's go back to, we have a little bit more time.

00:55:03.820 Here is a question from Terry in Fairfield, Connecticut.

00:55:08.840 Terry says, what is your opinion of Governor Burgum?

00:55:13.300 You know, several weeks ago, I guess now several months ago, I had the occasion of speaking to the Collier County, Florida, Lincoln-Reagan dinner, where the governor was one of the other speakers.

00:55:29.740 Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, now the Republican nominee for governor in North Carolina, was also a speaker.

00:55:37.980 I was very, very favorably impressed by Doug Burgum.

00:55:44.040 He gave an excellent speech.

00:55:46.480 He, like Trump, is an entrepreneur.

00:55:49.660 He's a businessman.

00:55:51.440 He talks about running the government like a business, which, of course, is one of the great attributes of Donald Trump.

00:55:58.500 In his first term, where we had record prosperity, record job growth, record wage growth, billions of dollars coming back into the country to be invested here, create jobs here.

00:56:13.680 I was favorably impressed by Burgum, but remember the axiom of former President Richard Nixon, who said, in looking for a vice presidential running mate, don't look for someone who can help you.

00:56:32.960 Just find someone who doesn't hurt you.

00:56:36.700 Burgum would meet that criteria perfectly.

00:56:39.500 There is no evidence that he is a neocon.

00:56:42.180 He is, others will say, well, that's two old white guys on the ticket. 0.55

00:56:48.640 It's more important that you pick somebody who the voters view is actually has the judgment and temperament to be president.

00:56:57.340 I think Burgum, among others, would be excellent in that regard.

00:57:04.200 So I thank you very much for that.

00:57:08.380 Here is another question.

00:57:12.740 This is from Tom in Tom's River, New Jersey.

00:57:16.660 A lot of New Jersey questions today.

00:57:19.340 I saw you on Pete Santilli's show.

00:57:22.660 Thought you were great.

00:57:25.020 Do you think they will send President Trump to jail on July 7th?

00:57:31.380 That is the question of the day.

00:57:35.000 Now, experienced attorneys, people I respect, say, given the fact that the president has no previous record, given the nature of these crimes, they believe that the judge will impose a prison sentence, but then stay that sentence pending appeal.

00:57:55.820 So I think that they are being optimistic.

00:57:59.440 Remember what this is all about.

00:58:01.760 This is not about justice.

00:58:03.780 It's not about Trump violating the law, because the prosecution can't even identify the underlying crime that would make these bookkeeping entries a felony rather than a misdemeanor.

00:58:18.720 I think that Judge Merchant wants to become a liberal icon, like, say, Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:58:31.720 He may also aspire to a federal judgeship.

00:58:36.660 And therefore, I'm bracing for the worst.

00:58:40.100 I don't know whether that is sending the president to Rikers Island, which is a hellhole, or whether it is home arrest, let's say, at the Trump Tower and the indignity of wearing an ankle bracelet.

00:58:58.100 This past Sunday, I had Will Scharf on my 77 WABC radio show.

00:59:04.840 He also appeared here at the Stone Zone.

00:59:07.500 I do have a lot of confidence in Mr. Scharf, and I think all the legal options are being examined.

00:59:16.420 Excellent presentation by Mark Levin the other night about how to get this question before the Supreme Court prior to sentencing.

00:59:26.940 This is something that every Trump supporter needs to be praying about.

00:59:32.280 Well, I am praying about it, as is everyone in my family.

00:59:37.240 Pray every day for the president's safety.

00:59:40.500 I pray every day for the president's strength.

00:59:45.280 We are hopeful that the judge will stay any sentence of incarceration.

00:59:54.620 But then that wouldn't be very effective if the goal is election interference.

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