The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Is Diddy Going Down For Sex Trafficking？ Investigative Journalist Liz Crokin Enters The StoneZONE!

00:00:00.320 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.860 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.880 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:17.520 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:23.160 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.920 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.880 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:40.440 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:46.880 With the stunning raids of the Los Angeles and Miami homes of hip-hop artist and producer P. Diddy,

00:00:56.880 the issue of child sex trafficking and pedophilia is very much back in the news.

00:01:04.400 My guest today in the Stone Zone is Liz Crokin.

00:01:08.200 Liz Crokin is an award-winning author, an independent investigative journalist,

00:01:13.000 and a documentary film producer best known for her relentless work against sex trafficking.

00:01:20.600 Liz executive produced the film Slave Princess, which was released in the fall of 2021. 0.58

00:01:28.560 That documentary covered Britney Spears' illicit conservatorship and the systematic corruption

00:01:35.340 surrounding the media, Hollywood, and the government.

00:01:40.920 In the spring of 2020, Liz appeared in the viral documentary Out of Shadows that has been viewed 0.74

00:01:49.000 by over 100 million people globally and has been actually translated into two dozen languages.

00:01:59.740 Here to help me in this epic interview with Liz Crokin is my usual co-host, Troy Smith from Slingshot.news.

00:02:09.920 Roger, as always, it's an honor.

00:02:14.060 It is a great opportunity for us today.

00:02:17.760 I've been really anxious to have this guest.

00:02:22.220 And there's a lot more to this.

00:02:25.220 Let me see if I can pull this up.

00:02:27.380 Here we go.

00:02:28.480 So to give you some background, folks, Liz Crokin is a seasoned celebrity journalist

00:02:33.300 who wrote the in-character column for the Chicago Suntime Splash.

00:02:39.440 She also had a celebrated novel, Malice.

00:02:44.360 She has traveled the world to exotic places in small podunk towns, 0.61

00:02:49.780 ranging from Hollywood all the way across the Caribbean,

00:02:55.780 tracking down the foibles of the rich and the famous.

00:02:59.940 In 2010, Liz moved to Los Angeles.

00:03:04.060 She worked as the West Coast senior editor for All Star and In Touch magazines.

00:03:09.500 She also served as the West Coast reporter for Us Weekly.

00:03:13.580 She has broken many, many exclusive stories about the misadventures and misbehavior of those in Hollywood.

00:03:21.700 But it is her role as an advocate and, frankly, a whistleblower, an exposer of child sex trafficking

00:03:31.720 that she has done her most important work.

00:03:35.260 We are honored to have my friend, Liz Crokin, today in the Stone Zone.

00:03:41.680 Hi, Roger and Troy.

00:03:43.300 Thanks for having me.

00:03:45.240 We're very, very excited about having you.

00:03:48.620 Thank you so much.

00:03:49.820 So, I guess P. Diddy is an excellent place to start.

00:03:56.500 I want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein, of course.

00:03:58.800 But it's interesting to me, they have these over-the-top raids on his homes in Miami and Los Angeles.

00:04:08.680 And immediately, the race card is pulled. 0.87

00:04:11.420 Well, he's being raided because he's black. 0.52

00:04:13.660 As someone whose home was stormed at 6 o'clock in the morning by 29 fully armed, SWAT-clad FBI agents

00:04:23.820 brandishing fully automatic M4 assault weapons for the first-time nonviolent crime of allegedly lying to Congress,

00:04:33.180 I don't—there was no racism involved in the raid on my home, and I don't think there's any racism involved here.

00:04:41.200 The government does not raid your home with this magnitude unless they have some evidence of real crime.

00:04:48.960 So, off the top, Liz, what's going on here? 0.94

00:04:51.980 Well, first of all, I think the race card in this situation is absolutely ridiculous. 0.95

00:04:58.140 There's a lot of people that are exposing him right now and are making allegations against Diddy who are also black as well. 0.93

00:05:05.600 And that's part of the reason I believe that he has been raided because there's been multiple lawsuits filed

00:05:12.280 and some have been settled very quickly, I might add.

00:05:17.480 And those lawsuits also contain a lot of evidence proving that the allegations made against Diddy are true.

00:05:25.700 Now, the allegations we are talking about involve all kinds of crimes, including not only sex trafficking,

00:05:33.860 but child sex trafficking, sexual assault, rape, drugging women and men, prostitution, drugs, murder, the list goes on and on.

00:05:47.640 So, the amount of crimes that Diddy is being accused of, many of which we know about, as I said,

00:05:57.360 because there's been multiple lawsuits filed, it's crazy.

00:06:03.660 It's a large amount of crimes.

00:06:05.580 And it's not looking good for him.

00:06:08.980 I seem to recall that Cat Williams, 50 Cent, other black artists have been calling him out for some time.

00:06:19.140 So, the rumors themselves are not new.

00:06:22.400 But this seems to be a great deal more serious.

00:06:26.100 Troy, do you have a thought?

00:06:29.220 Absolutely.

00:06:29.900 So, with Jeffrey Epstein, it's always been a thing about, you know, who are the associates?

00:06:34.820 And with this, I'm not seeing so much about the associates of Diddy.

00:06:37.960 Could you talk about that?

00:06:39.280 How wide sweeping is this in the hip-hop industry?

00:06:42.380 Is this, you know, is this leaking down with other people that are lower than him?

00:06:46.340 Are there other high-level people that you think may be involved?

00:06:48.820 What's the story?

00:06:50.700 Well, speaking of Jeffrey Epstein, people are calling him the black Epstein,

00:06:54.320 including 50 Cent himself. 0.97

00:06:58.940 But, so, and the reason why they're calling him the black Epstein is because it's not just that he's allegedly involved in the child sex trafficking. 0.56

00:07:08.240 He also alleges involved in blackmail.

00:07:11.600 He's also allegedly involved in wiring all of his homes with security cameras in order so he could videotape people committing crimes and or in compromising positions so he can blackmail them.

00:07:26.720 And as we all know, Jeffrey Epstein was not just running a child sex trafficking ring, he was running an intelligence operation, a.k.a. a potty pot to blackmail people.

00:07:40.020 So, that's the reason why people are calling him the black Epstein, because the crimes that he's been accused of are very similar to the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein's been accused of.

00:07:51.400 Now, there are a lot of people that are aligned with Diddy that can be brought into this.

00:07:59.940 A lot of his powerful celebrity friends, I think, are panicking right now, such as Jay-Z, you know, and his other pals in the rap community.

00:08:10.220 He, a lot of these crimes allegedly took place at these infamous parties that he had, and again, according to people that have been speaking out against him, and people who have filed the lawsuits, and other people are saying that a lot of these crimes took place at these wild parties.

00:08:31.600 So, it is looking like this is a massive ring, and it could potentially involve dozens, maybe hundreds of other people, high profile names, celebrities, and then there's a lot of people also involved, potentially, that, you know, are powerful people.

00:08:50.140 There may be names that we're not as familiar with, but they're powerful people that work, you know, in the music industry, and I would even argue it could bring down politicians.

00:08:58.620 You know, we know that Diddy's done a lot of work with politicians, and the Obamas, and so has Jay-Z, so it'll be very interesting to see how this unfolds.

00:09:10.280 You know, Liz, you made a very good point in a text to me last night.

00:09:15.120 People really do need to have some context.

00:09:18.380 Child sex trafficking, pedophilia, among the ruling elite in this country, in Europe, is not in any way a new thing.

00:09:26.720 About a week ago, we had Nick Bryant on the show.

00:09:30.680 Nick Bryant is an amazing investigative journalist.

00:09:33.720 He's really the first American journalist who revealed and exposed the truth about Jeffrey Epstein for Gawker magazine.

00:09:42.800 He was, I believe, among the first reporters to get Epstein's little black book, to get the FAA manifests showing who had flown to the island.

00:09:57.400 I covered much of this in my own book on the Clintons with full attribution to Nick Bryant, who I flew to New York to meet with several times.

00:10:06.340 What's amazing is how long it was ignored.

00:10:11.140 And as some people may not realize, Epstein originally got charged in the state of Florida.

00:10:18.440 It is pretty clear that the investigation by the Palm Beach police secured him more than enough evidence to charge him with child sex trafficking and more serious crimes.

00:10:32.300 But he ultimately got off the hook, essentially, with a slap on the wrist.

00:10:38.200 He was allowed to plead initially to one charge of solicitation.

00:10:43.980 That's like going into a bar and trying to pick up a hooker. 1.00

00:10:46.740 And when the police chief, who had conducted the undercover investigation, objected, they just bumped that up to solicitation of a minor, which is still a serious crime, but not nearly as serious as child sex trafficking.

00:11:03.240 And then the state's attorney allowed Jeffrey Epstein to plead to that one charge.

00:11:08.680 He got an 18-month sentence, of which he only served 15 months.

00:11:15.400 But he was allowed to serve his sentence in the brand-new, air-conditioned wing of the Palm Beach County Jail, where he had his gourmet meals brought in, where he was only required to be from 10 o'clock at night until 6 o'clock in the morning.

00:11:33.240 During the day, he was free to travel.

00:11:35.300 He actually used sheriff's deputies, essentially, as his own kind of personal security squad.

00:11:43.080 It's only because of the dogged work of a reporter named Julie Brown of the Miami Herald that that story unraveled.

00:11:53.540 Before that, as you correctly pointed out to me, there was the Franklin scandal, in which a flamboyant financial criminal and big Republican in Nebraska, Larry King, somehow got a backdoor to Boys Town and was trafficking both boys and girls underage to Washington, D.C. and elsewhere.

00:12:15.720 Now, we had Alicia Owens on our show last week. 1.00

00:12:20.380 I know that she was trafficked to the chief of police in Omaha.

00:12:23.980 I know she was trafficked to the publisher of the largest newspaper in the state.

00:12:28.540 I felt very badly for her.

00:12:30.980 She did two years in solitary because she refused to lie.

00:12:35.100 They wanted her to recant, and she would not recant.

00:12:37.380 So, you're right.

00:12:38.460 I think it's important that people know that this phenomena of child sex trafficking is not new.

00:12:46.480 It is just now finally being covered.

00:12:50.400 The film Out of Shadows, which is where I first became familiar with your work, is an amazing accomplishment.

00:12:57.680 The censors, those who don't think we can make up our own minds, have done everything humanly possible to make that film hard to see.

00:13:09.180 But, folks, if you haven't seen it, let's tell people where they can go and find it.

00:13:13.320 Yeah, you can find it at intothelight.movie or outofshadows.org.

00:13:18.540 I've also posted it on my X page.

00:13:20.800 But, you know, in that film, we talked about the modern, you know, elite pedophile rings, which would be Jeffrey Epstein.

00:13:28.380 It would be Pizzagate.

00:13:30.080 Pizzagate is basically that Hillary Clinton's associates were using the pedophile code word pizza in the Podesta emails that were released in 2016.

00:13:38.760 And what Pizzagate basically is, it's no different than the Franklin scandal.

00:13:43.400 And that is that there's a group of powerful people, elites, celebrities and politicians around the world that are involved in the rape, torture and trafficking of kids.

00:13:52.380 And as you said, this has been going on for a very long time.

00:13:56.820 There's been scandals all over the United States, as you mentioned, you know, the Franklin scandal, McMartin preschool scandal.

00:14:05.080 There's been rings in Europe that have been exposed in Canada as well.

00:14:08.580 And then on top of that, it's not new to see politicians and or celebrities or musicians involved in pedophilia.

00:14:18.080 You know, I was texting you last night.

00:14:19.860 I just happened to watch this crime show the other night, and it was about Jerry Lee Lewis.

00:14:26.100 And I'm watching the crime show, and a woman comes on, and she's talking about how she was forced to marry him at the age of 13, and she was his cousin.

00:14:36.160 And I never knew that about him, and I'm like, geez, like, I mean, are there any people in the music industry and or Hollywood who aren't pedophiles?

00:14:44.280 Because it just seems that it's more the norm that celebrities in Hollywood, musicians, you know, and politicians at the highest level are involved in trafficking and or are actual pedophiles.

00:14:58.380 So this has been going on for a very long time.

00:15:01.980 And part of the reason why this has not come to surface is because, number one, you have the media that is completely owned and controlled by the people involved in these elite pedophile rings.

00:15:16.600 So they're constantly lying about this, covering this up, slandering people like you and I, and not telling the truth about these elite pedophile rings.

00:15:27.380 So that's number one.

00:15:28.380 Number two, as you mentioned earlier, these rings often have judges involved, police officers involved, members of the FBI involved, members of the government at very high level involved.

00:15:44.280 I mean, there's been reports recently of a high-profile prostitution and or trafficking ring that's actually involved in the, I believe, the Virginia, Maryland area that's allegedly tied to Chinese espionage.

00:16:01.380 And law enforcement has come out and said that people involved in that ring, there's many who have security clearances with our government.

00:16:11.280 So the reason why this has been kept underground for so long is because the fox is guarding the henhouse here.

00:16:21.040 And as we learned from Diddy, from the revelations from these lawsuits that have been filed against him, is that according to these lawsuits, Diddy has bragged for years how he has law enforcement, you know, all on his side and working with him just like they did with Epstein to make sure that he can do no wrong.

00:16:45.300 And if he ever has an issue with him, and if he ever has an issue with the law or any alleged crimes, that he's protected.

00:16:52.280 And he has had run-ins with the laws.

00:16:54.480 If you remember, you know, over two decades ago when he was dating J-Lo, you know, there was that incident he was involved in, the shooting he was involved in, in a nightclub, you know, he got off.

00:17:05.020 And so a lot of these elite pedophiles, they're protected because there are members of government and people in the judicial system and whatnot, they're also involved in their rings that protect them.

00:17:22.700 All right, folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to the incredible Liz Crokin.

00:17:29.720 We're going to take a quick commercial break.

00:17:32.160 When we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more about Jay-Z, some amazing things that Liz has reported on him.

00:17:40.380 And then you mentioned Maryland.

00:17:42.180 I think our friend Troy Smith has done some incredible investigative reporting that shows that there's rampant pedophilia at the highest levels of government in Maryland.

00:17:53.880 We'll be right back after this commercial message.

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00:20:14.920 Welcome back, folks.

00:20:18.240 If you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone, and I'm here with investigative journalist and activist Liz Crokin, as well as my colleague Troy Smith from slingshot.news.

00:20:31.260 We're going to put up a graphic where people can go to see all of Liz's amazing work.

00:20:37.720 Folks, can we throw that up? 0.92

00:20:39.320 There you have it, lizcrokin.net.

00:20:41.680 Folks, please go by.

00:20:42.740 It's amazing what this woman's body of work is. 1.00

00:20:46.580 I really hadn't focused on your substack until yesterday, Liz, but you have some amazing reporting there.

00:20:55.680 And you raised the question of Jay-Z.

00:21:00.280 And as you correctly pointed out, there's some major suspicion about the death of one of his mistresses.

00:21:10.500 Also, there were always rumors about the mysterious death of Kim Porter, who I think was attractive.

00:21:18.340 Tell us about that.

00:21:19.220 Great.

00:21:21.060 So, as you mentioned in the introduction, I have a background working in all kinds of different journalism, but particularly celebrity journalism.

00:21:31.100 And I wrote a gossip column for the red-eye edition of the Chicago Tribune, in addition to doing the Sun-Times column for years.

00:21:39.660 And I also worked for many different celebrity magazines for years.

00:21:43.420 Flying around literally the world covering these celebrities, often checking into the same hotel as them, sometimes literally staying in a room next to them.

00:21:52.540 And then I moved to Hollywood.

00:21:53.900 I was working in celebrity journalism in Hollywood for over a decade.

00:21:57.760 And so, you know, I was on the ground, hanging out with these celebrities, covering these celebrities, flying around the world, doing investigative reporting on these celebrities.

00:22:08.500 So, and I did this for almost two decades.

00:22:10.960 So, I have met many of these people.

00:22:13.260 I have seen a lot of things behind the scenes.

00:22:15.860 There's a lot of things that I learned that were horrific that have never gotten out there.

00:22:20.900 And, you know, what I learned very quickly in celebrity journalism is that these people are not who you think they are. 0.98

00:22:30.760 You know, when I first got into this kind of work, I realized right away that most celebrities are just assholes, right? 0.97

00:22:38.540 But then through the years, I started to see darker and darker things. 0.98

00:22:43.080 And that's when I realized there's something much darker going on in Hollywood.

00:22:48.060 And so, in about, I believe it was in 2011, at this point in time, I was working as an investigative reporter and an editor for Star Magazine.

00:22:59.160 Star Magazine is owned by American Media that also owns the National Enquirer and several other different magazines.

00:23:06.960 They have Raider Online as well.

00:23:09.120 And, you know, just for the record, people will say things like, oh, that's a tabloid.

00:23:13.860 You can't believe tabloids.

00:23:14.920 I worked for some of the best or with some of the best journalists in the world at American Media and at other tabloids.

00:23:24.940 From my experience, the tabloids do more thorough reporting than any of these newspapers, especially these days.

00:23:33.560 We, at that time, we had some lawyers that used to work for Bill Clinton when he was president that would fact check everything.

00:23:40.220 We would even have our sources take lie detector tests, you know, and for me to get an explosive story out, you know, about a celebrity having an affair or whatever, I would have to get all kinds of proof.

00:23:55.340 I mean, I would have to get text messages, phone records, you know, sources on the record, off the record.

00:24:01.720 So we did really good work, you know, back at American Media and then the other, you know, entertainment sites that I have worked for in the past.

00:24:11.480 And so back in 2011, I was working for Star and I was asked to look into Jay-Z and his alleged affair with a mistress named Kathy White.

00:24:25.880 Now, you have to keep in mind, back then, this is before people were really getting their news online.

00:24:34.280 You know, at that point in time, people that were into celebrity gossip, which it was a huge, huge industry back then, they got all of their news from these magazines.

00:24:43.840 There was about five magazines that came out every week that were competing against each other.

00:24:48.820 And they did very, very well before the Internet really blew up and social media blew up.

00:24:53.500 And so there were not that many entertainment blogs and there weren't that many people going online to get their news.

00:25:02.200 They were going to the magazines.

00:25:04.960 So if there was an explosive story about a celebrity coming out, you did not want that story in any of these magazines because that was everyone's source for the celebrity gossip, right?

00:25:17.120 So I'm looking into this story about Jay-Z and this alleged mistress.

00:25:23.140 And by the way, at this point in time, there had been many allegations of him cheating and there have been rumors and reports that he not only had other mistresses, but he also had love children.

00:25:36.260 But this was something that really hadn't made the magazines often.

00:25:40.260 And, you know, you would find reports on smaller blogs here and there.

00:25:44.860 So I started looking into this and I managed to get a hold of this woman who allegedly was his mistress.

00:25:52.860 And she initially told me that she didn't know him and that she had never even met him and that she never even been to a concert or anything.

00:26:04.860 So I then get off the phone with her and I did more digging on her and I found pictures of her. 0.93

00:26:11.860 And one of the last places where she's been photographed with Jay-Z was also with Diddy at a party in Las Vegas, I think back in 2010 at Town Nightclub.

00:26:24.340 And so I called her back and I said, hey, you know, you you told me that you didn't even know Jay-Z, that you've never met him, you've never been in a concert, you've never been in the same room as him.

00:26:35.800 But now I'm looking at all these pictures that clearly shows that you not only know him, you've hung out with him.

00:26:41.360 And I have other sources telling me that you guys have been having this affair, you know, it's been going on for a long time.

00:26:47.220 And I'm like, you know, whether you talk to me or not, like my boss wants to run this story, so I'm going to have to run this story.

00:26:54.860 So it's going to it's up to you if you want to tell your side of the story or not.

00:26:59.600 And at that point, she kind of realized, you know, I think in her head, oh, you know, I'm busted because she's seen the pictures of me with Jay-Z.

00:27:07.500 So she knows I know him at the minimum.

00:27:10.060 So, you know, she said to me, all right, you know what?

00:27:13.880 Let me think about this.

00:27:15.440 I'm going to think about whether or not I want to do an exclusive interview with you, but I'm going to consider it and I will get back to you on this.

00:27:23.800 So a few days passed by and I can't get a hold of her.

00:27:29.060 And I'm calling and calling and calling.

00:27:31.060 And so finally, I'm like, this is really weird.

00:27:32.840 Like, why can't I get a hold of this woman all of a sudden? 0.97

00:27:36.880 So I ended up calling one of her colleagues at her office and I said, hey, I'm trying to get a hold of Kathy.

00:27:43.920 Hey, do you know where she is?

00:27:45.440 And she's like, yeah, she's dead.

00:27:48.140 I was like, what?

00:27:50.500 And she said, yes, she died.

00:27:53.380 And I was like, oh, my gosh, like what happened?

00:27:56.260 You know, she died.

00:27:57.360 And she's like, I don't know.

00:27:59.180 You know, and, you know, no one really knows much.

00:28:01.940 And the circumstances are really strange.

00:28:04.440 So I, you know, I started looking into it more.

00:28:06.640 I talked to my boss about this and there were a lot of red flags surrounding her death.

00:28:12.420 Things didn't add up.

00:28:13.540 This was a healthy 28-year-old woman, you know, from what I've been told, that she didn't have any health problems. 0.80

00:28:19.280 Like, you know, it didn't make sense.

00:28:23.200 Long story short, the official story was that she had died from a, quote, aneurysm at the age of 28.

00:28:31.580 Well, I then later met sources that knew her very well and were on the very inside of what happened with her death.

00:28:45.600 And these sources told me that they were very confident that she indeed was murdered and that Jay-Z allegedly was involved.

00:28:58.360 And the reason why she was murdered, or at least the partial reason why she was murdered, is because allegedly, and other people have reported this, after I talked to her on the phone, she allegedly called Jay-Z and said,

00:29:15.840 Hey, you know what, I think I'm going to do a story with this reporter, and she may have told him, unless you give me, you know, X amount of dollars, I'm going to do this story with this reporter and talk about our affair.

00:29:34.080 So the timing was very convenient for Jay-Z.

00:29:37.140 Now, I will say one more thing.

00:29:39.660 When this was all going down, there already had been other allegations about him having affairs.

00:29:46.120 But again, the affair stories never made the magazines.

00:29:50.220 They were just kind of in the dark corners of the internet.

00:29:53.460 So, like, him and Beyonce still had this, like, squeaky clean image that, you know, I know his handlers and his PR machine wanted to keep for as long as possible.

00:30:02.920 And the second one of these affair stories or alleged love children's stories hits the tabloids, then that is not good for the couple, right?

00:30:13.780 So, at this point in time, like, none of those stories had really gone mainstream.

00:30:19.220 But in my head, I'm thinking, all right, like, what would be the incentive for him murdering her if he has all these mistresses?

00:30:27.600 You know, I understand that maybe she asked him for money and that pissed him off.

00:30:32.040 But what ended up happening right after I contacted her, which I didn't know and nobody knew was happening,

00:30:40.060 is that Beyonce had, and her team had crafted this whole big publicity stunt to announce her pregnancy at the VMAs with her first child with Jay-Z.

00:30:58.240 So, looking back, if she had done this story with me, this would have overshadowed this big PR stunt that they had planned to announce their first child.

00:31:14.880 And everyone had been talking about, when is she going to get pregnant?

00:31:18.560 When are they going to have a baby?

00:31:20.020 They had this whole, you know, wonderful crafted PR stunt to announce that she was pregnant, you know, like, the king, you know, and queen of, like, you know, the rap industry. 0.99

00:31:33.180 Like, that could not be tainted.

00:31:34.500 And so, I believe that if indeed she was murdered, I think that is one of the reasons why.

00:31:42.860 Because this story could have dominated the headlines as opposed to the story of announcing that Beyonce was pregnant with her and Jay-Z's first child.

00:31:56.040 And that's how Hollywood works.

00:31:58.620 You know, everything is an illusion.

00:32:01.520 So much is fake.

00:32:03.320 It's all about PR.

00:32:05.420 It's all about optics.

00:32:07.780 And that's what they care about most.

00:32:12.060 All right, folks, if you're just tuning in, this is The Stone Zone.

00:32:15.640 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith, also with investigative journalist and activist Liz Crokin.

00:32:22.360 And when we come back, we're going to talk about Maryland.

00:32:25.480 You brought it up.

00:32:26.380 And Troy's done some amazing deep dive reporting.

00:32:29.620 There seems to be pedophilia at the highest levels in Maryland.

00:32:34.120 I want him to lay this out.

00:32:35.300 And I want to hear what Liz thinks of it.

00:32:37.640 We'll be right back after this commercial message.

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00:34:47.360 welcome back folks i'm roger stone and of course you're back in the stone zone

00:35:05.080 i'm here with our guest liz crokin investigative journalist author uh documentary film producer

00:35:12.880 uh and one of the countries i would say foremost authorities on the whole question of child sex

00:35:19.580 trafficking and the rampant pedophilia that does go on among the ruling elite around the world

00:35:25.820 troy smith is a tough investigative reporter in his own right he's done some amazing reporting

00:35:32.640 in the state of maryland and he's uncovered some very disturbing things troy tell us about it

00:35:38.660 well roger uh and liz i'm honored to get your thoughts on this because you've done so much

00:35:43.660 work on the subject and uh basically what we uncovered here is that uh larry hogan the former

00:35:49.640 governor of maryland who's now running for u.s senate uh harbored a pedophile in his home

00:35:54.480 and we reported this on uh slingshot.news there's a bombshell video report that goes through all of

00:36:00.880 this but just to give you a quick rundown liz uh kevin lee hall a former hogan aide uh back in 1992

00:36:06.900 was living in hogan's house we know that because hogan's campaign manager at the time ronald gunsberger

00:36:12.480 uh told the baltimore son that hall had been living in his home um he kidnapped and uh raped a 17 year

00:36:19.040 old boy at gunpoint he was arrested for this and this the story went away and i was told by sources

00:36:24.300 uh former md gop sources that uh hogan and his cronies kind of worked to squash it because hogan has a

00:36:30.540 big political name uh in maryland he also appointed a person named judge uh jonathan newell uh in caroline

00:36:37.860 county as a circuit court judge uh newell was busted by the feds uh for allegedly taping uh children

00:36:45.400 in his house he also had tapes in his house of him uh raping a 14 year old boy uh when they had

00:36:53.340 when maryland state police was investigating him uh newell took his uh there was a camera under his bed 0.98

00:36:59.140 he reached under the bed he pulled out the sim card to the camera he put it in his mouth and swallowed

00:37:04.980 it the maryland state police took him to a local hospital where a ct scan was conducted they found a

00:37:10.780 small metallic object in his stomach uh eventually that case was brought to the feds and on the morning

00:37:18.040 that they raided him in september of 2021 they discovered judge jonathan newell dead of a self-inflicted

00:37:24.100 gunshot wound uh there's another person louis barunda who is the hogan deputy state secretary

00:37:30.680 he was charged uh with distribution of child pornography um and then there was matthew palmer

00:37:37.460 a hogan deputy legislated officer that was charged uh with distribution of child pornography as well now

00:37:44.720 these are all people appointed by the former governor who is now running for u.s senate these are all people

00:37:49.400 that had very close connections with him and in the case of judge jonathan newell that was a 15 year

00:37:54.340 term he appointed him to um and in the case of kevin lee hall he had a pedophile living in his home

00:38:00.740 uh liz what are your comments about this bombshell information that we published at slingshot.news

00:38:06.100 and uh does it speak to anything that you've been investigating yourself well i'm glad that you brought this

00:38:12.140 case up and this kind of ties into what we were talking about earlier how pedophilia and elite

00:38:19.140 pedophile rings is nothing new this has been going on for many many years decades hundreds of years

00:38:24.420 you know thousands of years actually if you look back to ancient civilizations and how they would do

00:38:30.460 um their ritual sacrifices blood sacrifices and and rape children back that but in terms of

00:38:38.980 baltimore maryland number one you will find all kinds of rings and pedophilia problems anywhere there's

00:38:46.700 wealthy elites right especially anywhere around the dc area so there's dc is a mess and so is the

00:38:54.920 surrounding area but i'm about baltimore maryland when i first started going down this rabbit hole in

00:39:03.060 2016 2017 learning that these elite pedophile rings were real and this child sex trafficking was

00:39:09.600 real way way more massive than i had initially expected one of the docuseries that i watched that

00:39:18.560 helped me understand how these rings operate um was a series called the keepers and i don't know if

00:39:26.300 you're familiar with it but it's this series exposes an elite pedophile ring going back to at least

00:39:35.960 the 60s in baltimore maryland and in this ring in baltimore maryland like i said going back to the 60s so

00:39:45.900 we can still have people from that ring that were involved in that ring alive today um there were

00:39:53.360 law enforcement members involved local celebrity politicians and the ring was mainly run out of a

00:40:02.820 school where the head priest was raping the the female students in his office and then he would 0.98

00:40:12.160 bring in the johns to the school to rape them at the school as well and like i said there were 0.99

00:40:19.520 politicians that were ushered in police officers and when i'm watching the series you know some of the 0.98

00:40:26.420 survivors were saying you know some of the people that raped us were police officers so

00:40:32.460 like where do we go we're not going to report it to the police because some some of the people

00:40:39.240 involved in this ring are is law enforcement and so this goes back to what we were talking about

00:40:44.620 earlier a lot of these rings whether they're massive rings or smaller rings involve people in

00:40:50.260 positions of great power so you may have people involved in law enforcement lower levels and even

00:40:56.400 at high levels that are good people that want to take down these pedophiles but then it'll get up to

00:41:02.900 someone at the top that may be involved in the ring or got the call like alex acosta did when it came to

00:41:09.640 jeffrey epson and he was told you know he's involved in intelligence so you know back off of him

00:41:16.300 someone gets the call and then you know these these predators either get a slap on the wrist or they

00:41:22.420 just get away with it and that's been the problem with this particular case i wouldn't be surprised if

00:41:30.180 these people are involved in a bigger ring because you most of them are most of them you've they they

00:41:37.780 travel in packs you know and they go online and they communicate in their code words um so i wouldn't

00:41:43.080 be surprised if these people were involved in a bigger ring and if there were elites involved in

00:41:48.540 it because when you have people accused of these kinds of crimes in a position of power and they

00:41:54.820 die of suspicious deaths that usually means that there's other people that they have secrets on that

00:42:00.660 they could implicate all right uh your comments well you know in in the state of maryland you know

00:42:06.500 things i i have gotten so out of hand you're exactly right i have seen that series the keepers and

00:42:11.720 i've heard a lot about that and i think it's important to highlight that even though you know

00:42:17.700 hogan has all these ties to pedophiles but the ties come from people who have been appointed to positions

00:42:23.660 of power in government and you're exactly right you know if you're a victim in one of these rings where

00:42:28.520 do you go when the governor is appointing people that are abusing you where do you go when you have

00:42:34.600 people who are police officers who are abusing you and it creates this it's it's worse than a prison

00:42:40.380 isn't it liz i mean it's really it is worse than a prison because there's no way to escape it it's

00:42:46.040 almost like what has our country become what does the state of maryland become all these states we've

00:42:51.420 allowed these elites to they're they're raping the children and i don't mean just just physically

00:42:57.860 doing it they're doing it in a government way they're they're a broad stroke across everybody 0.93

00:43:02.980 they're screwing over everybody liz and it's just it's infuriating to watch because where is our

00:43:08.580 representation where where are where are these people following the rules and regulations of

00:43:14.760 government to and the constitution of the united states they're not doing any of that they're not

00:43:20.220 allowing people to be dignified they are literally destroying this country and it's it's a it's a

00:43:25.780 terrible thing to see it is terrible to watch what happens to children in the state of maryland

00:43:30.940 especially when they're surrounded by people who are appointed by governor hogan yeah and it's

00:43:36.760 happening everywhere you know we have the president of the united states you know joe biden who i call

00:43:41.620 pedo peter you know he there's 85 000 missing migrant children under his watch we know for a fact that

00:43:51.500 his government is knowingly trafficking migrant children he is putting these children on secret

00:44:02.440 flights off the book flights private jets and he they are knowingly his government the people that

00:44:10.040 he works for are knowingly taking these migrant children and sometimes more often than you think 0.68

00:44:16.780 placing them in the hands of pedophiles and our sex traffickers and we know that for a fact because

00:44:23.880 there's been many whistleblowers that have worked at these migrant centers that have come forward

00:44:28.680 and they've seen the evidence they have the proof that this is happening one of them brave woman

00:44:34.260 tara lee rotis she's on our board project defending protect our children with america's future with

00:44:40.280 general flint so this is not conspiracy theory this is real there are real victims out there that are

00:44:47.860 dealing with this and there's children being trafficked all over the country knowingly by powerful people

00:44:55.460 in our government and it needs to stop because it's been going on for too long and you know if we

00:45:02.440 can't make preventing protecting children a priority in this country you know we've not only failed as a

00:45:11.640 country we've just failed as as humans as far as i'm concerned all right we're going to take a quick

00:45:17.960 break when we come back i want to ask liz crokin about p diddy and justin bieber because something

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00:47:36.340 welcome back folks we're in the final moments here in the stone zone we're with

00:47:52.940 liz croken investigative journalist activist and probably one of the most knowledgeable people in

00:47:59.040 the country when it comes to the issue of child sex trafficking and the horrific pedophilia is very

00:48:05.820 prevalent among the ruling elites in this country so liz i asked you a provocative question what do you think

00:48:12.800 the deal is between p diddy and justin bieber like you i've i've watched these videos online over and over

00:48:19.660 again trying to figure this out what do you think so i'm glad you asked this question i've been following bieber for

00:48:26.320 years there have been rumors for years that he may have potentially been the victim of sexual abuse

00:48:32.980 and unfortunately in hollywood with these child stars it's more common that they are abused specifically

00:48:39.640 sexually abused than not there's a series that just came out exposing nickelodeon that exposed all

00:48:45.720 kind of pedophilia problems with nickelodeon and we also know it happens at disney and actually all the

00:48:50.720 studios and in the music industry so there's been these rumors for years you know that

00:48:56.300 potentially he was abused you know as a child star and fast forward to a few years ago he came out

00:49:05.060 with a song called yummy and a lot of people were buzzing because he had all these strange social media

00:49:11.440 posts where he was constantly posting pictures of babies and then he was also posting all these

00:49:18.480 pictures of pizza and he would write you know out the song you know hashtag yummy in his posts and if you

00:49:27.700 watch the video it depicts him at a dinner with a bunch of elites um you know in just kind of gorging

00:49:41.520 themselves and from my perspective i kind of felt that that was a cry for help and that was his way

00:49:48.120 of saying that pizzagate is real um because you know as i know you know pizza is a pedophile code word 0.52

00:49:55.860 that the elites use often um and that pizza has also been confirmed as a pedophile code word

00:50:02.160 by the doj by the fbi last year the wall street journal even confirmed it last year so i kind of

00:50:10.140 felt that this video you know and him using posting all the pizza pictures was his way of saying that you

00:50:18.680 know he he was a victim now if you look at some of his other songs and lyrics you know um there's other

00:50:26.260 songs that could suggest that you know he was a victim he was crying out for help and he had really

00:50:31.520 no one to turn to okay so fast forward to diddy he's getting exposed there's all these lawsuits filed

00:50:37.540 against him for you know allegedly being involved in child sex trafficking and all these other horrible

00:50:43.080 things and then the feds raid his home well a lot of sleuths on the internet that have been

00:50:49.460 researching diddy are digging up all these old videos of him with justin bieber and now knowing

00:50:58.500 what diddy has been accused of these videos are very disturbing there's a lot of videos of diddy with

00:51:06.280 bieber where bieber seems very uncomfortable and diddy's talking about you know how he has control

00:51:13.240 over bieber for like the next 48 hours and i think this one video he's 15 or 16 years old and he says

00:51:20.620 something along the lines of you know we're going to get involved in a bunch of crazy stuff but we

00:51:24.880 won't be a lot of talk about it there's another video where diddy is asking bieber like why don't

00:51:30.600 we hang out anymore you know why don't you call me anymore it's just kind of weird within itself

00:51:35.520 and you can tell bieber's uncomfortable and he just kind of like oh yeah you know i've been busy

00:51:40.020 um and then most recently yesterday there was a video going viral of diddy you know hanging out

00:51:47.360 or he ran into um bieber somewhere it looked like a golf course and he's just inappropriately

00:51:54.420 touching him and a lot of people are thinking that he was touching him to see if he was wearing a wire

00:52:02.760 so between the videos you know the the subliminal messages that bieber may have been sending through

00:52:12.400 his music you know and on social media you know there's a lot of people that think that diddy may

00:52:18.980 have abused him really really extraordinarily amazing we're going to put the link back up where you can

00:52:28.160 follow all things liz crokin uh let us urge you to go to her site it is liz crokin dot net you can find

00:52:37.440 the things she's written you can find uh access to uh the film she's helped produce she's an amazing

00:52:43.920 human being she's a woman of enormous personal courage uh there are there are consequences for those

00:52:52.160 who are truth tellers we know this so liz we pray for your safety we pray pray that you will continue

00:52:59.060 uh your crusade to expose those who are so heinous that they abuse children i can really think of

00:53:07.400 nothing worse to a final word from you absolutely liz i just want to say thank you for all that you do

00:53:13.280 and in this subject you know i realized that uh like roger says there's a lot uh here that happens

00:53:20.320 when you talk about this kind of stuff there's a lot that happens um in people moving things

00:53:24.860 against you and trying to destroy you and silence you and uh it's not a easy fight but it's a fight

00:53:31.600 that is necessary because it it is so important so thank you for all that you do in this subject

00:53:36.400 liz just to be clear you have an open invitation here at the stone zone at any time i'll bump another

00:53:44.140 guest anytime you have anything that you think is important to get out to the american people

00:53:49.220 you're more than welcome right here on the stone zone well i really appreciate that and i really

00:53:54.440 look up to you roger thanks for all you've done you know through the years fighting the good fight

00:53:59.240 you know i know you've been fighting the song going back decades but i think you will have to have me

00:54:05.120 back because you know we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg with diddy nickelodeon hollywood i think

00:54:11.620 that this year is the year of exposure and we're going to see a lot more dominoes fall

00:54:16.000 and other people involved you know in diddy's ring you know hopefully jay-z and others um we'll

00:54:23.200 be getting exposed this is the year uh you raise an excellent point we didn't get time today to get

00:54:29.280 into nickelodeon i definitely want to do that let's get you back on the show next week there's a lot

00:54:34.360 more to dig into there but thank you again for joining us on the stone zone thank you guys so much

00:54:41.960 have a great night okay troy an amazing interview with liz crokin uh we've got just a few minutes

00:54:51.340 left here you want to pick up a political item absolutely roger we could run something that just

00:54:57.780 caught my eye this morning that is one of really i mean just one of the most disgusting things i've

00:55:01.660 ever seen you know roger we've seen the footage of the mass groups of people surging the border

00:55:07.580 uh we've seen uh 6.3 i believe million uh illegal border crossings since the biden administration took

00:55:14.780 power here's a video of biden uh hss secretary javier becerra saying this morning that this

00:55:21.740 administration has done everything it can to secure the southern border uh denver safety net hospital is

00:55:27.700 in financial crisis right now due to the cost of uncompensated care a portion of it certainly not a

00:55:32.640 majority but about 10 million dollars over 16 months was care for migrants who have come into

00:55:37.060 denver health given the fact that it's the biden administration that has been unable to secure the

00:55:41.820 southern border is it incumbent upon you to find some discretionary hss funds to help denver health

00:55:46.960 stay afloat as it spends millions to care for migrants so i want to make sure one thing is very

00:55:51.860 clear the the border is a is and i'm not obviously i'm not the department of homeland securities but i will

00:55:58.160 tell you this the there is a process that is at work the laws in our immigration system have been

00:56:05.040 broken for a long time and this administration has done everything it can under the law that's the

00:56:11.820 important part under the law to make sure that we handle the the border properly that's incredible

00:56:19.600 particularly view of the fact that homeland secretary mayorkas bragged about repealing all of the executive

00:56:26.460 orders put in place by donald trump to secure our southern border these people think uh that the american 0.99

00:56:33.220 people are stupid or if they think they can blame the the surge of illegals into the country under joe biden 0.99

00:56:39.980 somehow on donald trump it really is delusional it's the kind of thing that a person who declares easter 1.00

00:56:46.200 the holiest of holy days the the day of christ's resurrection the day that is that is memorialized

00:56:54.700 as transgendered visibility day uh those kind of people would make that kind of insane claim 0.99

00:57:04.020 absolutely insane claim it's uh it's just out of it's just completely out of reality roger and i think

00:57:11.260 uh it goes the same way with the economy you know if you listen to these people talk roger they say

00:57:15.060 oh the economy's great you know look at the dow look at look at the stock market everything's fine

00:57:19.580 uh they actually think things are okay uh and that's because it's their personal assistance

00:57:24.100 to do their shopping it's because they don't get out into the real world they don't look at

00:57:27.860 real things and when they go to a restaurant they don't care what the menu price is because

00:57:32.760 they have a lifetime of money taken from you the people so they these people don't give a damn about 0.94

00:57:38.620 our struggles or the american people's struggles or or the fact that we have april 15th looming uh the day

00:57:45.320 where most americans uh pay a majority of their money uh to a government that does literally

00:57:50.400 nothing for them i mean in fact spends all of their time trying to destroy them and and calling

00:57:55.880 them the enemy uh if you're an american and you believe in this country you believe in our founding

00:58:00.200 document the uh the the the entire government has waged war on you for decades and they've uh more

00:58:06.580 recently completely just said yeah we're coming after you and we're coming after your right to vote

00:58:11.580 we're coming after everything about your life we're going to spy on you we're going to destroy 0.99

00:58:15.920 the candidates that you prop up politically um it's an all-out assault roger on truth and on the people

00:58:21.940 of this country and it has to stop because we can't take this much longer

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - April 04, 2024

Is Diddy Going Down For Sex Trafficking？ Investigative Journalist Liz Crokin Enters The StoneZONE!

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