The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 08, 2024


Joe Biden’s State Of The Union Disaster - The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

152.53535

Word Count

7,734

Sentence Count

499

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

After watching Joe Biden's State of the Union speech, it's safe to say that most Americans were not happy with what they saw. In fact, many of them were downright enraged by it. And that's because it was delivered by a man who has been in office for the past eight years and has done little to improve the lives of the American people. Roger Stone explains why and why not, and why we should all be angry at Joe Biden for his performance. He also explains why the pro-Palestine protesters in the streets of Washington, D.C. were so angry about it and why they should be even more angry than they were last night. And he also points to the fact that the Biden administration is a symptom of a larger problem, which is that the left-wing radicals in charge have been told by those in charge that they're entitled to do what they're doing, and that's to destroy beauty and destroy humanity. The Stone Zone is hosted by Roger Stone, a conservative political strategist and political icon. Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has been invited to lecture before the University of Oxford and Harvard University. He has become a pop culture icon. He's had a long career in the political and cultural arena. Roger Stone has become an icon in the conservative media world and has become one of the most influential voices in the world. . - Roger Stone - The Stonezone - - This is a show you don't want to miss. - Thank you for jumping in and starting our show! - Troy Taylor - I must say that I ve never seen anything quite like this. I ve seen anything like this before. I've never seen it like this in a show I've ever seen it, and I ve watched anything like it in a place where someone else has done it like that in a movie or been able to do it better than Roger Stone did it better, and it's a show that I've watched it on a film I've been in a few times and I can't wait to do something like that, I hope you do it more than that in the future, I'm going to try and do it in the next episode.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:15.380 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:18.980 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:24.380 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:36.060 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:41.420 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:44.460 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:01:14.460 To attack the values that have propped up this nation for so many years.
00:01:19.500 We're happy to be here in the Stone Zone today to break things down.
00:01:22.480 But, folks, if you caught the State of the Union speech last night, you most likely were pretty angered by it.
00:01:28.600 And as most people should be, you know, it's pretty remarkable.
00:01:32.980 In a day where things at the grocery store are 25 to 30, maybe even 40 times or 40 percent more expensive.
00:01:41.240 And that's on the lighter things.
00:01:43.120 Sometimes, you know, 200, 300 percent more expensive on some things, you know, ever since Biden took office.
00:01:49.580 And overall, it's never been harder to get by as an American.
00:01:54.420 It's never been more difficult to pay your rent, to pay your mortgage.
00:01:58.840 And that money is worth less and less.
00:02:02.440 And at the same time, this Biden administration sat there last night, you saw it with your own eyes, and pretended as if everything was okay.
00:02:10.880 And what's particularly interesting to me is that the worst thing about the Biden administration, because it's universal.
00:02:19.980 I mean, yes, they're allowing the DOJ to target people who are white.
00:02:26.600 They're actually going after white people and calling us terrorists and calling supporters of the former president, Donald Trump, terrorists.
00:02:35.260 I mean, they're coming after us with every aspect of the, you know, intelligence agencies and law enforcement.
00:02:44.480 And while they're doing that, they are simultaneously telling the American people, yeah, no, no, we're trying to protect you.
00:02:52.140 And everything's going all right, just like with the groceries, just like with the gasoline.
00:02:55.740 Everything's okay.
00:02:56.620 Everything's fine.
00:02:57.820 And my question is, how much longer is that going to last?
00:03:00.980 And as I was getting into just there, you know, things with the economy are getting to the point where people are getting desperate.
00:03:08.560 People are getting extremely desperate.
00:03:11.780 And it's interesting to me to see that manifest in other political avenues, like the pro-Palestine protests.
00:03:19.960 Now, they didn't talk about this really on mainstream media, but Joe Biden was 20 minutes late to the podium last night.
00:03:25.820 And the reason that he was late was because there was hundreds of pro-Palestine protesters blocking the roadways in Washington, D.C.
00:03:36.200 And calling Joe Biden genocide Joe.
00:03:39.020 Now, I highlighted this on the show.
00:03:41.020 We showed the poll here.
00:03:42.780 Everybody can look up the issues.
00:03:44.540 From November of last year to now, Joe Biden has shed 9% of his own party support when it pertains to the Middle East and the handling of Israel and Hamas.
00:03:55.800 The conflict there.
00:03:57.780 And that is a manifestation, I believe, of this bait and switch that the Biden administration is pulling.
00:04:05.540 You can't tell people one thing and then do another.
00:04:08.560 Eventually, they start figuring it out.
00:04:10.260 And as things with the economic problems continue to compound and get worse and worse and escalate and escalate, that political angst comes out in other places, like in these protests that we saw last night.
00:04:22.780 And make no mistake, it doesn't matter if the Gen Z people or the millennials stop buying their avocado toast every day or stop buying Starbucks coffee.
00:04:31.720 They can't afford rent.
00:04:33.080 They can't afford to buy a house.
00:04:34.560 Most of them can't afford to drive a car.
00:04:36.600 Most of them can't afford to do anything.
00:04:37.940 So that angst shows itself within BLM.
00:04:41.720 It shows itself within Antifa.
00:04:43.580 It shows itself within now the pro-Palestine movement.
00:04:46.940 But these people, I mean, I saw just today, they were destroying pieces of art in Europe.
00:04:51.480 And eco-terrorists have bombed Elon Musk, not bombed, they've destroyed pieces of Elon Musk Tesla factory in Germany.
00:05:00.800 There's attacks popping up everywhere, and it's because of this political angst and these left-wing radicals who have been told by those in charge that they're entitled to do what they're doing.
00:05:14.320 And they're entitled to destroy beauty, and they're entitled to try to destroy humanity.
00:05:19.520 Here to break down everything that's going on in the State of the Union last night.
00:05:24.000 He's had a long career in politics.
00:05:25.960 He's a legend.
00:05:26.840 Welcome, Roger Stone, on to the Stone Zone here.
00:05:30.580 Thank you very much, Troy.
00:05:31.880 And thanks for jumping in and starting our great show today.
00:05:35.200 I must say, having watched that performance last night, I've never really quite seen anything like it.
00:05:43.380 I mean, traditionally, State of the Union addresses are supposed to be inspiring, uplifting, designed to reassure the country.
00:05:54.620 When you can, you try to be bipartisan.
00:05:57.420 Listen, even when calling on the other party, you do so in a respectful and constructive way.
00:06:05.060 I checked, never in the history of the nation has any president referenced, either directly or indirectly, their predecessor.
00:06:16.580 Yet, 13 times yesterday, Joe Biden tried to call out Donald Trump, although not by name, only referring to him as,
00:06:27.420 my predecessor, the tone was much too hot, too angry, too bitter.
00:06:36.200 I really don't understand why he yells like that.
00:06:39.840 That's not, it's not very presidential.
00:06:42.560 Other than to say, perhaps his advisors have told him that he has to show people he's actually alive and breathing because, well, they doubt it.
00:06:53.320 I don't think he helped himself with that performance.
00:06:57.820 I even saw some in the fake news media criticizing the tone of it.
00:07:03.800 He does give you a kind of a heads up that they would like to make this next election largely about abortion because, well, they can't win on any other issue.
00:07:16.340 And that's the other thing, Troy, he openly attacked the U.S. Supreme Court with the court member sitting right in front of him.
00:07:24.620 This is a co-equal branch of government.
00:07:29.320 If Donald Trump had ever done that, the far left would be in high dungeon.
00:07:34.600 They'd be going out of their minds.
00:07:36.160 Yet he basically threatened the U.S. Supreme Court, kind of like when Chuck Schumer threatened them and nothing happened to him either.
00:07:46.640 Well, exactly, Roger.
00:07:48.160 And at some point you're looking at this and saying, OK, they're claiming that Trump is attacking democracy and that Trump is trying to end democracy.
00:07:57.140 Jen Psaki said on her show two weeks ago that it was shared by every major Democrat.
00:08:01.820 Trump is running to end the presidency.
00:08:04.060 That's what they say.
00:08:04.960 And at the same time, he's breaking precedent.
00:08:08.200 As you just said, he's the first guy to mention his predecessor during the State of the Union speech.
00:08:12.920 And he's the first guy to sit there and attack the Supreme Court justices to their face.
00:08:17.360 I mean, does that not highlight to you, Roger?
00:08:19.300 I mean, you're in such an interesting position here, Roger, because you were really the person that this all opened up on when they raided your house and they made that into a spectacle.
00:08:29.880 Do you see the kind of road from that event to what we see today?
00:08:34.260 It's almost like they become more and more emboldened.
00:08:36.500 Yeah, very sadly, I guess I was the test case and they wanted to see what they could get away with me and with General Flynn.
00:08:45.680 And basically, I learned the hard way that in the D.C. Circuit, the law doesn't matter.
00:08:51.800 The Constitution doesn't matter.
00:08:53.560 The facts most certainly don't matter.
00:08:56.120 And you certainly can't get a fair trial.
00:09:00.360 Just in pre-trial motions, in my case, the judge basically disallowed any reasonable defense I might have mounted, which, of course, meant that the result of the trial was never in doubt.
00:09:13.240 By the way, just to remind you, sorry, they never found any evidence either of Russian collusion or, more importantly in this case, WikiLeaks collaboration.
00:09:24.340 Any communications that I had with the Twitter persona of Guccifer 2.0, which they harped on constantly, saying, well, he was a Russian intelligence asset and Stone was in touch with him.
00:09:38.580 Well, yes.
00:09:39.500 And I made those very limited communications entirely public.
00:09:44.760 They were benign.
00:09:46.200 I received nothing of value from him.
00:09:48.220 I passed nothing of value on to anyone else.
00:09:51.960 There's no evidence there of collusion or coordination.
00:09:55.800 This whole idea that Stone knew in advance that WikiLeaks was going to publish information about Hillary Clinton, everyone knew that.
00:10:07.040 All you had to do was follow the public comments on the record of Julian Assange.
00:10:12.860 So, look, I think most people understand.
00:10:15.380 I went through what I went through, not because I did something wrong, certainly not because I engaged in any traitorous or illegal behavior, but in order to pressure me to bear false witness against Donald Trump.
00:10:30.080 So I was basically a pawn.
00:10:32.260 It wasn't me they wanted to get, although I'm not telling you that they loved me, but they were trying to get at Trump.
00:10:39.640 And we're going to see this again.
00:10:41.840 Unfortunately, you unearthed a great article, which I had forgotten about, about the transition project, which was, I think, a project of Project Democracy or the Democracy Project.
00:10:58.040 You can correct me on that, but those guys sued me in a civil suit prior to my being criminally charged, in which they tried to allege that I had served as a go-between between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign.
00:11:13.620 And when it came time for the civil trial, their proof was essentially a bunch of clippings from the Huffington Post.
00:11:23.280 That's not proof.
00:11:24.440 That's fake news.
00:11:26.400 Those are allegations.
00:11:28.780 There was no proof to be found because, well, still not true.
00:11:34.520 Well, Roger, and that article you're referring to, people can check out on my site, launchliberty.com.
00:11:38.580 It's on the front page, and it talks about the Transition Integrity Project, and it talks about a lot of speculation and planning that went into the 2020 election.
00:11:47.860 I think it's important, and it's important because they actually go through each scenario.
00:11:53.660 And, you know, Roger, we sit here and we talk about constructive media narratives and constructed media narratives and how they use that to form general opinions among the public that they use to attack people.
00:12:06.200 And you see this work all the time when they just put things – and a perfect example of this, Roger, is the Trump – when they talk about Trump's cognitive decline, and they try to insert that into the narrative.
00:12:17.260 They can take something like a HuffPo article – it's completely fake.
00:12:20.760 I mean, it's ridiculous – and they put that in a court proceeding.
00:12:24.220 And what's crazy is that the judges will actually allow them to get away with that, Roger.
00:12:28.680 I mean, it's gotten to a point where I think most Americans look at the justice system and think of it as a joke.
00:12:35.580 And really, it comes down to, do you know the right people? Do you have enough money?
00:12:39.540 And when that's the case, your country's in a really, really bad position, and it speaks to where we are with Joe Biden.
00:12:46.080 You know, Roger, we want to run a clip here last night of the protesters in Washington, D.C., protesting who they call Genocide Joe.
00:12:54.100 And we're going to run that clip here.
00:12:56.380 And I want to get your thoughts on Biden's declining support for his handling of the Middle East situation within his own party here.
00:13:03.880 We do not agree that the corporations get to have more rights than us and the people in Gaza.
00:13:13.280 Shame!
00:13:14.800 Shame!
00:13:15.620 Shame!
00:13:16.820 Shame!
00:13:17.840 Shame!
00:13:18.780 Criminal!
00:13:19.900 Criminal!
00:13:21.500 No!
00:13:24.000 When they say genocide, you say go!
00:13:27.200 Genocide!
00:13:28.000 No!
00:13:28.880 Genocide!
00:13:29.580 No!
00:13:30.180 When they say genocide, you say go!
00:13:33.820 Genocide!
00:13:34.540 Genocide!
00:13:35.160 No!
00:13:37.340 We eat people!
00:13:38.620 Not another guy!
00:13:40.040 No more money for Israel's crime!
00:13:45.560 No more money for Israel's crime!
00:13:54.360 No more money for Israel's crime!
00:13:56.880 No more money for Israel's crime!
00:14:01.040 No more money for Israel's crime!!
00:14:02.640 Yeah, this is turning out to be a real problem for the Democratic Party.
00:14:22.960 It was interesting that at the victory party for Adam Schiff, who, as you know, is now in a runoff,
00:14:29.820 he ran neck and pencil neck with Steve Harvey, the baseball great who came out of nowhere to contend for that seat.
00:14:42.280 His victory party was disrupted by pro-Gaza demonstrators.
00:14:47.700 This is a giant looming problem for the Democratic Party.
00:14:54.240 Troy, we have a very special interview that I did with Alex Jones.
00:14:57.380 We're going to cut to in a moment, but we have about two minutes.
00:15:01.880 Why don't you wrap up your final comments?
00:15:04.560 And then Alex Jones has given us special permission to run this great interview.
00:15:10.000 Oh, we love Alex Jones.
00:15:10.900 We love Infowars.
00:15:12.160 You know, last night, I think it's important for people to realize that while Biden can sit up there and act like the all-powerful Oz,
00:15:18.120 really, his power is an illusion, because at the end of the day, we have control over raising children.
00:15:26.240 We have control over having families.
00:15:29.040 We have control over the American future.
00:15:31.280 And if we continue to take hold of that and we continue to stick by what is true and what is right,
00:15:37.480 there is no amount of screaming that that senile tyrant can do to bring our country down.
00:15:42.980 And it's only a matter of time for all those in the government, for all those in the media,
00:15:47.280 for all of those who have sat by and watched their country be destroyed over the last three years with this guy running things.
00:15:54.380 A rude awakening is coming in November, and the people of this country are going to go to the ballot box like never before,
00:16:00.080 and they're going to send you a big middle finger in the form of Donald Trump.
00:16:04.580 He's going to take back the White House.
00:16:06.520 And I think, Roger, last night just kind of indicated how close we are to sealing that deal.
00:16:12.340 I think at the end of the day, Biden's got a lot of issues.
00:16:15.440 And every time he goes out in public, it just reassures those issues in the minds of the American people.
00:16:22.000 So, perfect place to leave it.
00:16:24.980 So, we're going to show you this special interview with Alex Jones.
00:16:28.660 I want to thank you for joining us this Friday on The Stone Zone.
00:16:33.700 I want to be pretty clear.
00:16:35.360 What I've said for a couple years is I believe that Michelle Obama would be the Democratic nominee for president in 2024.
00:16:45.060 And I stand by that.
00:16:46.580 That doesn't mean that she's going to run for president.
00:16:49.100 I actually don't think she really wants to do this.
00:16:52.660 But I believe that the incapacity of Joe Biden is so obvious.
00:17:00.440 The impact of his policies is so disastrous.
00:17:04.640 And the revelations regarding the Biden crime family keep getting worse and worse.
00:17:13.160 All those things add up to Joe Biden not running again.
00:17:18.460 At which time, and I think this will be done very close to the Democratic National Convention.
00:17:23.080 But I think at that juncture, he announces that due to reasons of health, which everyone can see, that he will not accept renomination.
00:17:34.120 And at that point, he will release his delegates, which would be more sufficient to nominate him.
00:17:40.600 And the convention will go absolutely wild in their efforts to draft their strongest potential candidate, Michelle Obama.
00:17:50.320 Tonight is going to be great.
00:17:51.900 Based on what I've read at True Social, President Trump is going to be live posting during the state of the state, as he puts it, to rebut any disinformation regarding either the record of Joe Biden and his administration or any news about the weaponization of the criminal justice system against Trump.
00:18:16.120 So this should be highly, highly, highly entertaining.
00:18:20.040 I've got a lot of questions for Roger Stone, who joins me now.
00:18:26.060 My former co-host on The War Room that I am hosting here at 3 to 6 p.m. Central, filling in for Alex today, though.
00:18:34.340 My co-host, and boy, oh, boy, have Roger and I been through the political persecution since the days of us hosting The War Room together.
00:18:42.400 But here we are, Roger, stronger than ever, always a pleasure to be joined by you.
00:18:47.860 I'm going to dive right in.
00:18:49.060 I'm going to dive right into the Big Mike, Iron Mike Obama.
00:18:52.620 Comes out with, I guess, I mean, maybe the fact that she even has an office making a statement is why you think this.
00:18:58.940 But Big Mike, Iron Mike Obama's office comes out and says, no, no presidential run.
00:19:03.960 She's not doing it.
00:19:05.060 You immediately follow up by saying, yep, this means she's running Roger Stone.
00:19:10.020 Well, Owen, first of all, it's great to be back with you.
00:19:15.240 What a long, strange trip it's been, my brother.
00:19:18.900 And until you've gone through the kind of crucible you and I have both been through, very hard for people to appreciate.
00:19:26.040 And like your caller a little earlier, I prayed for you as I know you prayed for me in that crucible.
00:19:33.340 And I'm just very happy to see you back on the air, stronger, more vibrant, harder hitting, more effective and more popular than ever.
00:19:44.620 So it's a it's a great thing.
00:19:46.740 Proves that Jesus Christ can indeed do anything.
00:19:50.420 To go right to the heart of your question, I want to be pretty clear.
00:19:55.000 What I've said for a couple of years is I believe that Michelle Obama would be the Democratic nominee for president in 2024.
00:20:04.700 And I stand by that.
00:20:06.200 That doesn't mean that she's going to run for president.
00:20:08.740 I don't think I actually don't think she really wants to do this, but I believe that the incapacity of Joe Biden is so obvious.
00:20:19.500 The impact of his policies is so disastrous and the the the revelations regarding the Biden crime family keep getting worse and worse.
00:20:32.500 All those things add up to Joe Biden not running again, at which time.
00:20:39.440 And I think this will be done very close to the Democratic National Convention.
00:20:43.420 But I think at that juncture, he announces that due to reasons of health, everyone can see.
00:20:49.500 That he will not accept a renomination.
00:20:53.740 And at that point, he will he will release his delegates, which would be more sufficient to not nominate him.
00:21:00.760 And the convention will go absolutely wild in their efforts to draft their strongest potential candidate, Michelle Obama.
00:21:09.960 It is only at that juncture, Owen, that I think that she succumbs to that draft.
00:21:15.860 Based on the simple argument they're going to make to her is that she is the strongest potential candidate against Donald Trump.
00:21:25.120 So it's not that I think she's going to run for president, but I do ultimately believe that she will be talked into or drafted as their candidate.
00:21:34.380 And she is indeed, when you look at Kamala Harris as an alternative or or Gavin Newsom as an alternative, she is potentially a stronger candidate than either one of them.
00:21:45.980 Well, certainly Kamala, you know, she can't she can't suck off 70 or 80 million American voters.
00:21:53.020 So I don't know how she could possibly win an election.
00:21:56.020 But OK, so this let's get more into the detail.
00:21:58.580 So you see it being because I always ask, well, how do the Democrats do this?
00:22:02.440 So they're going to have to take the loss and admit they lied about Joe Biden's health.
00:22:05.780 They're going to have to take the loss and admit that, yeah, OK, we covered up for Joe Biden's obvious health issues.
00:22:10.460 Then they're going to have to take another loss, basically throwing Kamala Harris under the bus and admitting that she's a complete joke.
00:22:18.120 She's a complete farce.
00:22:19.940 So, I mean, do they just weigh it as the damage that we do to ourselves in those two instances?
00:22:26.060 It's less damage than trying to run Joe again.
00:22:30.880 Perhaps.
00:22:31.760 I mean, you're absolutely right about the fact that that Kamala Harris is the is the giant impediment to all of this.
00:22:39.260 Under any normal scenario, if a sitting incumbent president announced that they were not running again for reasons of health, the obvious choice, the person in line, would be the sitting vice president.
00:22:55.100 But look, Kamala Harris doesn't have senile dementia, and she makes even less sense than Joe does.
00:23:01.420 And the Democrats know it.
00:23:03.120 So they have to figure out a way to get her out of the line of succession.
00:23:08.200 I have suggested that they probably, when I say that, I mean Barack Obama, comes to her and says, look, if you will simply step aside, let Michelle be the presidential nominee, let Gavin Newsom and the hundreds of millions of dollars in special interest money that he would bring be our vice presidential candidate.
00:23:30.060 And you, Kamala, will get the next vacancy on the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:23:35.880 Now, she's a former attorney general of California.
00:23:39.260 She's a former Oakland County prosecutor.
00:23:42.520 I mean, on paper, she's qualified for that job.
00:23:44.940 As long as they have a Democratic president and and if they maintain control of the Senate, simply it's a simple majority for confirmation that could sadly actually happen.
00:23:57.760 So I think that's the way it will ultimately be resolved.
00:24:01.140 Oh, my gosh.
00:24:01.640 That was like a gut blow.
00:24:02.920 I didn't mean that was just that was a natural reaction.
00:24:05.360 You say Kamala Harris on the Supreme Court.
00:24:07.420 That was like somebody just kicked me in the stomach.
00:24:09.820 Oh, can you imagine?
00:24:11.440 I'd rather not.
00:24:12.180 OK, now let me ask you this.
00:24:15.040 Would the Republicans be doing the Democrats a favor by doing so much damage to Joe Biden with the impeachment inquiry and the investigation into the Biden crime family?
00:24:28.380 Would the Republicans be doing the Democrats a favor by having all of that come out before the nomination process?
00:24:34.340 Or should they wait until after Joe Biden is nominated and then begin the the attack?
00:24:39.560 Because I feel like doing this damage to Joe Biden or even getting Joe Biden impeached or whatever before the nomination process would almost be doing the Democrats a favor.
00:24:50.520 Yeah, I kind of agree with your analysis.
00:24:52.600 Now, if I had my choice, I'd like to see a rematch between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:24:57.860 The idea of a Biden Trump debate is just delicious.
00:25:03.420 I can't believe that Biden would agree to such a thing.
00:25:06.500 I think he will come up with a dozen excuses as to why he can't participate in a debate.
00:25:12.380 Tonight is going to be great based on what I've read at True Social.
00:25:17.160 President Trump is going to be live posting during the state of the state, as he puts it, to rebut any disinformation regarding either the the record of Joe Biden and his administration or any news about the weaponization of the criminal justice system against Trump.
00:25:38.560 So this should be highly, highly entertaining, to say the least.
00:25:44.580 I'm really looking forward to tuning in for that.
00:25:47.380 Yeah, I can imagine Joe Biden right now is in some sort of an iron lung or hyperbaric chamber.
00:25:53.400 He's got wires coming out of him and he's got needles giving him fluids and everything.
00:25:58.680 I mean, who knows?
00:25:59.320 He probably I mean, they got to be just pumping him full of drugs so that he can give this hour long speech tonight.
00:26:04.200 You mentioned debates.
00:26:06.700 I agree there's no way they can put Biden on a stage with Trump.
00:26:10.380 I mean, they already they already canceled the debates in 2020.
00:26:14.680 But I mean, OK, who but who can they put on a stage with Trump?
00:26:19.060 I mean, Michelle Obama on a stage with Trump.
00:26:22.460 I mean, I don't see how that goes well.
00:26:24.400 Look, I think it would be a mistake to underestimate her at any cost.
00:26:31.280 Look, we both had Joel Gilbert, great friend of ours, who's got a great documentary and a book called Michelle Obama 2024, which he makes an overwhelming and I think compelling case that she's going to be the nominee.
00:26:45.300 But she would enter the contest with very few negatives.
00:26:47.820 We can sit here and make jokes about her gender all day, but I think to do so in a serious campaign would actually be detrimental.
00:26:58.320 I would like to actually see if if Obama, pardon me, if Biden will not debate Trump, perhaps perhaps the vice president will debate Trump, although to a certain extent it would be beneath Trump to do that.
00:27:13.160 These people are stuck and they're increasingly hysterical.
00:27:18.540 I mean, this morning I watched MSNBC and I was watching the talking heads there specifically saying that their own poll must be wrong, that the New York Times, Siena College poll shows Trump.
00:27:35.600 That must be wrong, that Trump, that Biden is far stronger than those polls indicate.
00:27:44.720 I just think that that's wrong.
00:27:47.300 Well, I don't know any Biden supporters.
00:27:49.240 I mean, really, I have liberal friends.
00:27:51.260 I have friends that vote Democrat.
00:27:52.620 I have pro-choice people that I know.
00:27:56.360 None of them like Joe Biden.
00:27:57.580 Even they would rather vote for Trump against their own perhaps political beliefs just because they like having a country that's not falling apart so they can.
00:28:07.780 Well, I mean, just generally speaking, though, I'm getting the same 2016 vibes right now.
00:28:14.080 Well, the liberal mainstream media, the Democrat front groups in the media, they really are going into conniption fits of rage and denial and just complete psychotic breakdowns.
00:28:27.900 Yeah, there is a – there's a hysteria.
00:28:33.500 They're apoplectic.
00:28:35.240 They're near hysterical.
00:28:37.900 The – one thing I'd point out – I just wrote a long piece on this.
00:28:42.260 They're back to recycling the Russian collusion hoax.
00:28:45.020 You see, that's the thing about leftists.
00:28:46.900 It doesn't matter how debunked, how disproven, how discredited any of their crazy theories are.
00:28:54.640 If you just wait a couple weeks, they'll be right back with them and recycling them back yet again.
00:29:00.780 So we're all the way back to Donald Trump was elected with the assistance of Russian intelligence, which is, of course, a bald-faced lie, an absolute lie.
00:29:10.160 I was thinking specifically of Andrea Mitchell, who on MSNBC says, well, Biden's far more popular and stronger than our own NBC poll shows.
00:29:22.340 Why is she saying that?
00:29:23.940 Because, I don't know, the ladies in her Pilates class think that?
00:29:28.040 I mean, these people are not in any way in touch with average Americans.
00:29:32.580 They don't have their finger on the pulse of what real people are going through or what real people are feeling.
00:29:38.880 But there is indeed an increased hysteria.
00:29:42.240 And it is obviously their last best hope, we've experienced this ourselves, is to lock Donald Trump up.
00:29:49.940 In other words, they're counting on not beating him at the ballot box, but they're counting on convicting him somewhere or something, for some fabricated crime, in the hopes that that will take him down.
00:30:03.500 I think you're going to turn out to be wrong about that as well.
00:30:05.820 Well, briefly, what can Joe Biden gain from his State of the Union address tonight?
00:30:13.460 I mean, it is an opportunity.
00:30:14.760 He's not campaigning.
00:30:16.420 So this is virtually a campaign speech for him.
00:30:20.040 This is going to be the most he's spoken to the American people since his last State of the Union.
00:30:25.580 Obviously, he's going to have nothing to do but lie about the state of things.
00:30:30.000 I mean, is there anything Joe Biden can do to help himself in this State of the Union tonight?
00:30:36.320 He's going to do three things, I think.
00:30:38.080 One is he's going to continue to tell the false tale of Bidenomics.
00:30:43.440 Go to Bidenomics.com, by the way, which you would think the Biden campaign would have been smart enough to buy, but they didn't.
00:30:51.120 And you can see the truth of this devastating economy.
00:30:54.280 Sure, unemployment is 3.4 percent.
00:30:57.120 If you don't bother to count the 750,000 people who stopped looking for work in December, or if you don't count the 2 million people who stopped looking for work over the previous year.
00:31:11.180 I mean, Andy, you also can't take into consideration the seasonal adjustments.
00:31:18.140 These fake statistics that they're throwing at us, nobody is feeling them.
00:31:23.740 So he's going to talk about what a solid course he's set the economy on.
00:31:29.180 Nobody believes that.
00:31:30.420 Secondarily, he's going to talk about abortion again and again and again.
00:31:35.540 He's going to try to make this election a referendum on abortion, which, of course, those evil Republicans want to outlaw,
00:31:44.240 not recognizing that the overturning of Roe v. Wade turned this decision back to the states, and the states are regulating abortion.
00:31:54.920 But abortion rights are not at risk in the country.
00:31:58.400 That's not the way he'll tell it to you.
00:31:59.800 He's going to go on and on, distorting that IVF decision out of Alabama.
00:32:06.280 Alabama Republicans and the governor there move very swiftly to protect those who might legitimately seeking to get pregnancy through in vitro.
00:32:17.060 But they're going to try to give you the impression that all Republicans are against that.
00:32:22.800 And then lastly, he's going to say, he's going to repeat the lie, that if we don't ship another $95 billion to Ukraine,
00:32:31.260 well, not only is Vladimir Putin going to sweep up Ukraine, but he's then going to gobble up Poland, Germany, France, and the rest of Europe,
00:32:40.760 which, of course, there's no evidence to support that idea either.
00:32:46.080 Yeah, I'd agree with all that analysis.
00:32:48.200 And I'd also add, I expect Joe Biden to say at least one time, at least one time, democracy is at stake from the people that are destroying democracy.
00:32:56.520 You know, the one thing I noticed, and I'm glad that you brought this up, there really isn't any solid issue that the Democrats can run on right now.
00:33:03.860 If you look at the Democrat Party platform, the issues are not popular.
00:33:06.960 Raising taxes, pro-war, sexualizing children, trans kids, that's not popular stuff.
00:33:12.720 I do think they're going to lean into abortion, but even that's not as popular as they think.
00:33:17.660 I guess what they're hoping here is there are people that will be one single-issue voters on abortion.
00:33:24.300 That will be a lot of millions of women, potentially.
00:33:27.600 But to me, there is not enough weight there, Roger.
00:33:31.200 There's just not.
00:33:31.920 But I think that that's what they're going to lean into.
00:33:34.880 I don't think they, as you point out, I don't think they have much choice.
00:33:38.380 Now, the most interesting thing here you made reference to, and that is their entire narrative that Trump is somehow a threat to our democracy.
00:33:48.440 Let's go through this, if we may.
00:33:50.440 Who is it who's trying to lock up the leading opposition party candidate for president?
00:33:56.200 Something you would see in Fidel Castro's Cuba or Mao's China or Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia.
00:34:04.400 Why, that would be the Democrats.
00:34:05.620 Who is it who wants to limit free speech on the Internet through censorship, through cancellation, through shadow banning and so on?
00:34:16.240 But that would be the Democrats.
00:34:18.880 We now know definitively that the government under the Obama administration was actively involved in doing exactly that, working hand-in-glove with these huge Silicon Valley companies.
00:34:31.680 Who is it who is spying on 178,000 Americans without a warrant?
00:34:38.020 Well, that would be the current administration by their own admission.
00:34:42.580 Who is it who dipped into the 702 database to pull up information on 4.5 million Americans?
00:34:49.880 So those are the things that are a threat to democracy.
00:34:53.380 And then when you add to that their attempt to keep Trump off the ballot, just not have an election, keep him off the ballot, what could be more anti-democratic than that?
00:35:04.900 So, once again, everything they accuse us of doing is, of course, exactly what they themselves are doing.
00:35:13.200 And Joe Biden is the threat to our constitutional republic.
00:35:19.000 Roger, what in the hell happened during the California primaries this Super Tuesday?
00:35:28.580 Well, one of your favorite people has progressed to the next level.
00:35:33.040 Now, remember, California has a unique system where they don't have party primaries to choose their nominees anymore.
00:35:40.540 All candidates of all parties run in one what they call jungle primary, with the two top vote-getters then facing off at the November general election.
00:35:52.820 So Watermelon had himself emerged.
00:35:56.880 I would say that Steve Garvey and Adam Schiff were neck in pencil neck in the outcome of the California primary.
00:36:06.300 They will now face off.
00:36:07.980 There's a couple different dynamics here that are important to progressives.
00:36:14.400 Katie Porter, I mean Porter, from Orange County, who spent a lot of money but did not make the finals.
00:36:21.920 And then Barbara Lee, an African-American congresswoman from the Bay Area, was fourth.
00:36:30.280 Those are progressive votes, although given the dichotomy going on in the Democratic Party over the entire issue of Gaza and Israel, how Adam Schiff is going to fare among Barbara Lee's constituents, well, that really remains to be seen.
00:36:49.340 Steve Garvey, the baseball great, played for the L.A. Dodgers, surprise finisher here.
00:36:59.600 The demographics don't favor him.
00:37:02.540 On the other hand, Adam Schiff is so odious, so exposed as the fraud that he is.
00:37:09.840 Well, hope springs eternal.
00:37:11.780 Hopefully, Adam Schiff can be flushed once and for all.
00:37:17.640 Well, what about the fact, and I don't know if you saw, Garvey was winning at one point during the process, and then magically another voter tabulation error goes massively in favor of a Democrat.
00:37:29.640 And then all of a sudden, Schiff gets hundreds of thousands of votes, Garvey loses hundreds of thousands of votes, so people are wondering what happened with that.
00:37:36.940 And then there was the issue of Charletta Bassett, how the ballot was all screwed up for her.
00:37:44.280 Yeah, that's—she's actually a very good personal friend of mine.
00:37:47.900 I endorsed her.
00:37:48.660 She's a great woman, Charletta Bassett, and she's on the ballot, on the paper ballot.
00:37:55.660 In English, she's correctly identified as a Republican, but in Chinese, because there is a Chinese section of the ballot, she's identified as a Democrat.
00:38:05.700 She's most definitely not a Democrat.
00:38:08.160 But you know what?
00:38:08.860 Charletta was lucky.
00:38:10.820 At least she got on the ballot.
00:38:12.800 There were 27 candidates who were duly qualified for the U.S. Senate.
00:38:17.660 Not all of them made the ballot in all places.
00:38:21.340 Then beyond that, the secretary of state would require you to send in your information for a voter guide, but, well, Charletta's information was sent in plenty of time, but it miraculously just did not appear.
00:38:35.300 I used to say Nevada probably had the dirtiest election system in the country.
00:38:40.780 I'm now beginning to believe that California is right up there with them.
00:38:44.400 I think, in truth, in some of these close House races two years ago, Republicans actually won, but the Democrats were coming up with ballots, you know, 10 days, two weeks after the election.
00:38:57.340 I would urge Charletta to get a good, solid lawyer and bring a lawsuit because very clearly her rights and the rights of some of these other candidates have been violated.
00:39:10.180 Well, I've always scratched my head, and it's like, how do people like Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff and Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, how do they win election after election after election after election?
00:39:30.100 I mean, it truly is. It's almost as much of a modern marvel as Schiff's watermelon head with a toothpick neck.
00:39:37.600 Yeah, I mean, look, all of those people come from overwhelmingly solid Democrat districts, and 99 percent of incumbents get reelected.
00:39:47.660 They're certainly not going to be exposed by the media.
00:39:51.260 I mean, Adam Schiff said that he had seen more than circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion between Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign in 2016, and, well, we're still waiting for it.
00:40:06.440 And then he falls back to this mantra.
00:40:09.060 Well, we know that the Russians offered the Trump campaign help.
00:40:12.620 We know that the Trump campaign accepted that help, and we know the Trump campaign used that help.
00:40:17.720 Every single part of that is a lie. It's false.
00:40:20.620 Then it is, oh, Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort shared polling data with a man named Konstantin Kalimnik, who was a Russian intelligence asset.
00:40:32.040 Well, there's a couple problems with that.
00:40:33.900 There was no proprietary Trump campaign polling data at the time this allegedly happened, and Konstantin Kalimnik was an American intelligence asset.
00:40:44.620 The whole thing is yet another one of Adam Schiff's major lies.
00:40:50.140 You can always tell when Adam Schiff is lying. You know how? Because his lips are moving.
00:40:56.840 Roger Stone. Just prime fashion Roger Stone. This has been an incredible interview.
00:41:01.680 But guess what? We got another segment coming up with Roger next. Don't go anywhere.
00:41:04.980 Guys like Adam Schiff and, you know, Schiff, Pencil Neck. Pencil Neck!
00:41:09.280 He's a marvel. No, he's a structural marvel. He has a neck, and his head is like a watermelon, and his neck...
00:41:18.280 And how that neck can hold up that big, oversized, ugly head is hard to believe.
00:41:25.540 No, it's true.
00:41:28.080 It's a modern marvel.
00:41:30.280 It's a big head.
00:41:31.720 It's like your finger on a basketball. Some of these guys, they spin it.
00:41:39.020 No, no, he's a terrible guy.
00:41:41.320 If it's Schiff, flush it.
00:41:45.220 Roger Stone with us here. That's just great stuff. That's just great stuff from Donald Trump.
00:41:49.260 All right. I want to get into an issue that, Roger, I'm really focusing on here, and I think we, as populists behind Donald Trump, need to really understand this for messaging purposes as we get closer to the election now.
00:42:06.680 Swalwell tweets this out last evening.
00:42:10.960 He says,
00:42:11.760 Well, he's obviously lying about the last part. That's the left that threatens you with violence.
00:42:23.440 But I don't want to go into that.
00:42:25.320 I want to talk about him saying the Republican Party is dead.
00:42:28.140 There's an element of truth to this.
00:42:30.760 The corrupt establishment swamp Republican Party is dying.
00:42:35.220 I don't know if it's dead.
00:42:37.040 I mean, Nikki Haley did just drop out.
00:42:38.820 That might be some evidence.
00:42:39.760 McConnell refuses to walk away till November.
00:42:43.040 Ronna Romney McDaniel, for some reason, won't go away.
00:42:45.960 So it's not dead yet.
00:42:47.140 They still have their representation in positions of power and influence.
00:42:51.360 But it's waning, Roger.
00:42:52.660 And I think that the truth is that there is a new Republican voter base.
00:42:57.160 There is a new Republican Party represented by people like Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, maybe Josh Howley and some others.
00:43:05.680 I like to call it the new right.
00:43:07.480 I mean, you look at the man that just won the primary for governor in North Carolina who they're trying to destroy with all this stuff that he says, well, it might be crazy.
00:43:17.240 I don't care if he thinks the moon is made out of cheese.
00:43:19.740 If he has good policy that supports his people in North Carolina, then I like him.
00:43:25.120 How do you summarize this, Roger?
00:43:29.020 I kind of call it the new right.
00:43:30.260 We want America first.
00:43:31.600 We want criminals arrested.
00:43:34.040 We believe that America can have a positive future.
00:43:37.220 I mean, this is the new right.
00:43:38.220 How do you kind of summarize all of this?
00:43:40.760 Is Eric Swallow right?
00:43:42.120 The old establishment Republican Party?
00:43:43.780 Is it dead?
00:43:44.320 Well, Owen, I think Senator Barry Goldwater said this at the 1960 convention when he said the Republican Party is our traditional home, speaking as a conservative.
00:43:57.060 So, yes, the country club, neocon-dominated inside the Beltway Republican Party of Mitt Romney and John McCain and some of their predecessors, that party is indeed dead.
00:44:14.080 The new Republican Party is the party of working Americans.
00:44:19.040 It is the party of the middle class.
00:44:21.160 It is the party of America first.
00:44:24.520 It's a non-interventionist party, so we're not going out looking for foreign wars around the world in which we can stick our nose but where we have no inherent interest.
00:44:36.080 Donald Trump has completely reinvigorated the old, stiff, stolid, boring Republican Party of the country club and of the Bushes.
00:44:48.360 And now what you see potentially is a substantial political realignment as Hispanic voters and Asian voters and an increasing number of African-American voters and as younger voters start moving, in some cases historically, for the first time, to the Republican Party.
00:45:09.840 So, Eric Swalwell, what he doesn't recognize is the old Democratic Party is dead, that being the Democratic Party of Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy, a party that was anti-communist, a party that was for a strong national defense, a party that supported capitalism.
00:45:29.560 That party is dead, and now the two parties are now, I think, realigned more traditionally the way the British parties used to be realigned.
00:45:42.300 We are the conservative party.
00:45:44.600 They are not even the liberal party anymore.
00:45:47.200 They're the leftist, progressive, Marxist party.
00:45:50.480 They don't even make any bones about the fact that they prefer socialism over capitalism.
00:45:55.900 That would be unthinkable just a few short years ago.
00:45:59.440 But to think that our party's dead?
00:46:01.480 No, our party's more vibrant, it's broader and, I think, more inclusive.
00:46:05.920 And they're petrified by looking at these new polling numbers.
00:46:10.640 There has never been a time, Owen, when the Republican nominee for president out-polled the Democratic nominee among Hispanic voters, ever.
00:46:18.940 But we're now seeing that for the first time.
00:46:22.160 And it has them petrified, absolutely petrified.
00:46:26.660 Well, and I really would like to see what the Republican Party would look like with all the tools that it has, if it's actually being run by America First people, like we could see potentially after the 2024 presidential election.
00:46:40.840 I mean, maybe Mike Johnson comes more to our side.
00:46:43.320 Maybe we have a different speaker.
00:46:44.460 Maybe we get more of a Rand Paul or Josh Hawley for the Senate leadership.
00:46:49.720 And then, of course, Donald Trump.
00:46:50.680 I'd like to see, even with maybe Watley potentially running the RNC, I mean, anything is better than Ronna Romney McDaniel.
00:46:57.700 She's completely worthless.
00:46:59.380 I mean, I look at all the opportunities wasted, like MSNBC insulting the voters in Virginia and West Virginia.
00:47:06.500 They should have made that into an ad, and it should be running in Virginia and West Virginia every day from now until the election.
00:47:12.760 They should take the clips of Swalwell and Schiff saying, I have the evidence.
00:47:17.040 I have the evidence in front of Congress lying to the American people.
00:47:20.340 There was no evidence.
00:47:20.900 I mean, it's just we don't even swing at these fastballs that the Democrats give us right down the plate to hit out of the park.
00:47:27.460 Now, Roger, you can either respond to that in the last few minutes, or what role do you think RFK plays from here on out?
00:47:35.460 Well, you know, that really remains to be seen, Owen.
00:47:38.040 First of all, let me say you're going to have a sea change at the Republican National Committee.
00:47:41.660 Perhaps this is inside baseball to some, but I believe Chris LaCivita, who served his country at a time of war, a decorated veteran, to my mind, one of the very best strategists, operatives, mechanics in the Republican Party today.
00:48:00.420 A man with an enormous capacity politically, partially responsible with a handful of others for Trump's amazing follow-through and the execution of their plan in the Iowa caucuses, where they tripled the previous high-water mark, the smashing victory in New Hampshire.
00:48:21.780 Chris LaCivita is slated, as I understand it, to go over and take over the operations of the Republican National Committee,
00:48:28.420 which means things are going to be very honestly run.
00:48:31.900 And for the first time ever, every single dollar will be spent efficiently.
00:48:36.960 And he will start, in my opinion, cutting the overhead, getting rid of the consultants and the other freeloaders.
00:48:43.780 So this, from an operative point of view, is very important because the Republican National Committee legally can do things in conjunction with the presidential nominee that only the national party can do.
00:48:55.960 As far as RFK is concerned, this is a longer subject, but we have to see if he makes the ballot.
00:49:03.400 I mean, getting on the ballot as an independent is far more difficult than people think it is because the rules that govern ballot access are written by Republicans and Democrats working together to make it as difficult to get on the ballot as possible.
00:49:18.680 Early on, some of the national polls showed that RFK pulled disproportionately from Trump, but then when you look at it on a state-by-state basis, that does not necessarily appear to be the case.
00:49:31.000 And in a number of the swing states, I really question whether he can get on the ballot in the end as an independent.
00:49:38.280 In a number of the other swing states, he appears, at least today, in some cases, to being pulled disproportionately from Joe Biden and the Democrats rather than Trump and the Republicans.
00:49:49.560 Yeah, I think somebody from the Trump campaign or Trump himself needs to reach out to RFK and cut a deal and basically say, look, the thing is going to be rigged against you.
00:49:59.560 You can't get on the ballot, but, you know, come out, run a good campaign, and then endorse Trump, and we'll give you a role in the administration.
00:50:07.260 Is that possible, Roger?
00:50:08.100 I don't know anything about that, in all honesty.
00:50:12.560 I think that the guy has some positions I really like.
00:50:15.840 He has some positions I really don't like.
00:50:18.380 I think he's going to be very, very frustrated in his attempts to maneuver his way onto the ballot as an independent.
00:50:26.600 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him.
00:50:35.440 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:50:38.020 Roger Stone.
00:50:39.080 Where's Roger Stone?
00:50:40.180 Thank you.