Kash Patel, former chief of staff to the Defense Department and National Security Adviser to President Donald Trump, and former counsel to the House Intelligence Committee under Chairman Devin Nunes, joins Roger Stone to discuss his trip to New York for the launch of his new radio show "The Stone Zone" on WBCB Radio in the early morning hours of Friday morning in New York. They also discuss Joe Biden's decision to step down as the Democratic presidential candidate in 2020, and whether or not he will seek another term in 2020. They also talk about why they think Kamala Harris will become the Democratic nominee in 2020 and why they believe she has a better chance of defeating Hillary Clinton than she did in 2016. Finally, they discuss the latest on the Biden pardons and commutation of Joe Biden s prison sentence and the impact it could have on the 2020 Democratic primary race and the possibility of a possible run for president by Joe Biden in 2024. The Stone Zone is hosted by Roger Stone and Troy Smith, editor-in-chief of Slingshot News and host of The Stonezone Radio Show on WABC Radio in Brooklyn, New York, joins the show to discuss all things political and pop culture related to politics, including the latest in politics, pop culture, and the upcoming 2020 Democratic presidential primary and primary race between Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. . Roger Stone: - Troy Smith: . . . , , and . , , is a New York Times bestselling author, best-selling author, and a longtime friend and adviser of President Trump. , has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, and an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, and has spoken at countless venues and lectured before the prestigious universities and the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and is a pop culture icon. Roger Stone has become an outspoken conservative icon in the political and cultural icon, and now he has become a Pop culture icon and now, here s your host, Roger Stone is your host? is a Pop Culture Icon? , right here's your host on the Stone Zone! And now here s back in the Stonezone! , Roger Stone, on his new book, The Stonez Zone, , The StoneZ Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone? on The Stone Z Zone with Roger Stone on The Hill?
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00:28:12.240Well, Troy, while we were in New York for this great weekend trip, I know you were laying by the pool, relaxing, scrolling through videos, taking it easy.
00:28:24.860But this compilation of the recycle of the Russian collusion hoax, which I think we used last week, but it's so incredible we have to show it again.
00:31:05.040No, Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was not in touch with Russian intelligence.
00:31:13.280The allegation that he gave polling to a man named Konstantin Kalimnik, who they claimed, Adam Schiff and others claimed, was a Russian collusion asset, was in fact an American intelligence asset.
00:31:29.940Reporting to the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, prior to that, he'd worked for Senator John McCain and the Republican Institute.
00:31:39.180Also, there was no proprietary Trump campaign polling information at that point.
00:31:45.880Their new pollster at that time, Tony Fabrizio, hadn't conducted any polling.
00:31:49.980So, even if Manafort did give Kalimnik any polling information, it was public information, information you could have read in the newspaper or seen in the media.
00:32:00.360Then there's the false claim by Robert Mueller that Roger Stone was in touch with Russian intelligence assets.
00:32:09.800That was in an op-ed in the New York Times, pardon me, the Washington Post, I guess it was, that was no doubt actually written by Andrew Weissman.
00:32:20.440First of all, you can go to StoneZone.com, do a search under Guccifer 2.0.
00:32:26.300At least four articles there that demonstrate that Guccifer 2.0, this entity who existed on Twitter, was a cutout for the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:32:37.860In fact, the software that he was using was registered to an employee at the Democrat National Committee.
00:32:58.660And it took place three months after WikiLeaks had already published all of the Democrat National Committee data and Hillary Clinton data that was allegedly hacked by the DNC.
00:33:14.960So unless I had a time machine, it's chronologically impossible for me to have been involved in any way in the purloining of that material.
00:33:25.620Then, of course, you have the fact that the CrowdStrike's report, the claim that the Russians hacked the DNC, which sadly most Americans probably still believe, there's no evidence of that.
00:33:41.440The FBI admitted in the pretrial motions, in my case, they never inspected the DNC computer servers.
00:33:50.860That was done by a company named CrowdStrike.
00:33:53.460The CrowdStrike report, which allegedly proved this Russian hack, was classified, was denied to my defense attorneys at my own trial, but later unclassified by the House Intelligence Committee,
00:34:09.840where the CrowdStrike chairman or, pardon me, counterintelligence head, Sean Henry, who just theoretically happened to be, coincidentally, a former deputy to Robert Mueller, admitted that his report actually had no proof of Russian hacking of the DNC.
00:34:29.540Then there's the claim that there was a multi-million dollar social media disinformation campaign, turned out to be closer to $40,000, and it impacted no one.
00:34:42.560Troy, aren't they just back to recycling the same BS again?
00:34:46.520We're being told that folks like Benny Johnson and Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, who I don't know, were not showing their shows solely on a platform allegedly controlled by the Russians,
00:35:05.000but licensing their material to be shown on that platform, as well as many other platforms.
00:35:11.860This whole thing seems like a canard to me.
00:35:20.200Well, and Roger, I think, you know, when I looked at the FBI report specifically, you know, and this was in regard to the domains that they had captured,
00:35:30.420the FBI came out with a report, and basically people can look this up.
00:35:35.200I mean, it's published just a few weeks ago, it may have been last week, where they talk about the different domains that they've seized.
00:35:43.220And what I saw, Roger, you know, they have things like WashingtonPost.pm.
00:35:48.200So basically, they're saying that a Russian outfit set up a WashingtonPost.pm instead of .com to try to fool people into thinking that whatever they were reading was on the Washington Post.
00:36:00.460And just like in the last scenario that you just outlined there, where they say, oh, it's a $50 million, $5 million campaign, turns out to be $40,000.
00:36:10.020I think that's what we're going to see here.
00:36:12.600Now, we have to remember what happened when Tucker Carlson tried to go over and interview Vladimir Putin, not the time that it actually happened and he published it, but the time before.
00:36:23.940Because he's talked about this, and Tucker Carlson, who I know you're friends with, Roger, he says that the FBI actually accessed his text messages, released them, like leaked his text messages out to the press, and prevented him from going to interview Vladimir Putin.
00:36:41.320Now, we know that when he went and interviewed Putin a few months later, or say a few years later, the interview was seen by millions of people, and it changed people's perspective on a lot of things.
00:36:52.900And the question that keeps rattling in my mind is, why Russia? Why Russia?
00:36:56.860And what you just said kind of brings the light to it, I think, in my mind.
00:37:02.500The Democrats know that this bump that Kamala Harris is seeing from entering the race, entering a presidential race, like literally less than 100 days before the race, the election actually takes place.
00:37:14.400They know that that's not going to go well.
00:37:16.440And they know that there's a large possibility that Donald Trump will be elected president in November of 2024.
00:37:22.540And in that case, they have to have something that they can use as a basis to launch investigation, Roger.
00:37:28.340To me, this looks like nothing more than the wrap-up smear, as explained by Nancy Pelosi.
00:37:43.920So, for example, the 17 Russian intelligence agents who allegedly hacked the Democratic National Committee in 2016, that case never went to trial.
00:38:01.200So, the government was never even actually required to provide any evidence whatsoever.
00:38:05.780So, what they have is a claim, an assertion.
00:38:10.480In my case, the government insisted, once they were embarrassed by the fact that the FBI admitted they had never inspected the computer servers at the DNC.
00:38:22.100And once the judge refused to produce the crowd strikes memo that allegedly proved this act, the government prosecutor, a man named Jonathan Kravis, who says his name Kravis, I guess he's embarrassed about his ethnicity, but his real name is Kravis, wrote a surreply to the court insisting that the government had additional proof that the Russians had hacked the DNC.
00:38:52.080But he couldn't produce it for the court, but he couldn't produce it for the court because it was protected by national security.
00:38:56.920No, Mr. Kravis, there is no such evidence, and you know it.
00:39:03.220Dan Goldman, who's in a three-way contest to see who could be the most odious liar and scumbag in the U.S. Congress.
00:39:12.980With Adam Schiff losing, leaving the House to unfortunately probably go to the Senate, the competition gets a little more narrow.
00:39:21.340So, now he's got to compete with Jamie Raskin, another congenital liar.
00:39:26.840A guy who said, in the January 6th committee, we'll produce text messages that prove that Stone knew about the January 6th activities at the Capitol.
00:39:54.160How concerned and kind of eyes wide open should people be out there who are trying to differentiate between inaccurate, accurate information and what's being pushed out there through these sources?
00:40:08.240It's incredibly important for people to recognize not only what the DOJ released this week, which was incredibly brazen and that was fulsome and somewhat unusual for the department to release such detailed information.
00:40:22.420But it is part of this transparent effort to make sure that Russia is trying to infiltrate our election for the benefit of one candidate, in this case, Donald Trump.
00:40:36.700They did it in 2016 in a way that no one really expected.
00:40:40.700But the way that they did it was to use their own fake bots and their own fake news sites and social media platforms or individuals.
00:40:51.880Now what they are doing is they recognize that it is a lot more effective if they can funnel their propaganda and their disinformation through trusted influencers in this country.
00:41:05.020And that's what is so startling about this case is you have these two far right novices who started a media company.
00:41:14.160They got paid 10 million dollars by Russia to parrot Russia propaganda.
00:41:19.200It remains to be seen what's going to happen to the two heads of this tenant media.
00:41:23.500And it still remains to be seen what kind of evidence there is as to whether these social influencers knew that their hundreds of thousands of dollars per episode that they were being paid by this nascent company came from Russia or not.
00:41:38.200But as you pointed out, what they're saying is explicit Russia propaganda.
00:41:43.680The idea that Ukraine, a democracy in Europe that was invaded by a dictator, Vladimir Putin, is the enemy of this country, is so preposterous.
00:41:55.300And I feel bad for Ronald Reagan, who must be rolling in his grave to see this Republican Party rally around Vladimir Putin.
00:42:02.980So you see, Troy, it seems to me they're just back to recycling the same thing.
00:42:08.460I think that this is based really on a growing hysteria that Donald Trump's going to win this election.
00:42:15.840The New York Times Siena College poll this weekend, which had Kamala Harris up three, now has her up one.
00:42:25.860There's a growing hysteria on the left.
00:42:28.840Nate Silver, who is he's not a pollster.
00:42:32.480What he does is he operates on a model, a model that that he claimed not too many days ago favored the election of Kamala Harris.
00:42:44.180He now says that his model shows overwhelming odds that Donald Trump will win the election.
00:42:52.340And then there's this professor or Dr. Alan Lichtman.
00:42:58.700This guy's one of the great frauds of all time.
00:43:01.900He claims that he has correctly predicted nine out of the ten last presidential campaigns.
00:43:10.760But then when you look a little more closely at it, what you find out is that he changes after the election.
00:43:18.080So he makes a prediction before the election, and then then he changes it when he's wrong.
00:43:24.040So he actually predicted that Trump would win in 2020.
00:43:27.220But then when Trump didn't win, he kind of changed his prediction.
00:43:37.920He doesn't take into consideration economic conditions in the country, which any pollster will tell you is what is driving the entire election.
00:43:52.180Let's take a look at this brief video regarding Professor Lichtman.
00:43:57.960So Alan Lichtman came out with his 13 keys to the presidential prediction yesterday, and everybody is freaking out.
00:44:05.140So I decided to dive in and find out what the fuss is all about.
00:44:35.340And can I also point out that he seems to have gotten really good at tailoring his predictions to a result of an election after the election is over?
00:44:44.820So the media and the left are telling the entire world that Mr. Lichtman has gotten nine out of the last ten elections right.
00:46:18.740Every one of these questions are subjective, particularly the important ones on the economy and on social unrest and on military failures and military success.
00:46:30.760So I decided to go down through all 13 of his keys, and I got a very different answer.
00:46:38.140See, his model is designed to say that if six or more of these keys are false, then the incumbent party loses.
00:47:29.960Well, Roger, I haven't gotten a chance to talk to you about this specifically yet.
00:47:33.540And that is the fact that Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney, the former vice president, have actually endorsed Kamala Harris in the upcoming election.
00:47:41.440And it's been amazing to watch, Roger, because I grew up and I was born in 2000.
00:47:45.740So the first president I remember was George W. Bush.
00:47:48.180And I remember the barrage of media hate that specifically Dick Cheney received.
00:48:05.580And now that he's endorsed Kamala Harris, the media is trying to spin this and say, oh, well, actually, Dick Cheney's endorsement is more powerful than Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who in some states was getting up to 10 percent of the vote, mostly independents.
00:48:20.780He's obviously going to have a big impact on this race.
00:48:22.940But let's watch Dana Bash try to spin this endorsement from Dick Cheney to Kamala Harris as more impactful than the endorsement for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:48:33.240for Trump and get Rodgers' reaction to the frantic kind of attempt here to rewrite history and put Dick Cheney on the Democrat pedestal.
00:49:20.500Let's review why the American people hate Dick Cheney.
00:49:23.240He led this country into a completely unnecessary war, which killed not only thousands of Americans, but hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, based on a completely fraudulent claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
00:49:43.280He actually forced Colin Powell, who was the widely respected national security advisor, into testifying in front of the UN that Saddam Hussein had acquired yellow cake uranium for the development of these nuclear weapons.
00:50:29.360Of the huge zeal talking of all Kennedy's messaging.
00:50:32.740Given the restrictions put on him by the mainstream media and the censorship of him on the Internet, I think he ran a very valiant campaign.
00:50:44.320So the Cheneys are not well-liked, nor are they respected.
00:50:49.060If anything, all this does is reinforce to the American people that the whole two-party system is kabuki theater,
00:50:59.360that this is a Hegelian hoax to distract the people from the fact that when you get right down to it,
00:51:05.780with the exception of Donald Trump, who was an outsider who hijacked the Republican Party from the country club establishment Republicans,
00:51:14.740the two parties at the leadership level have been essentially the same.
00:51:19.600They both represent the erosion of our civil liberties.
00:51:23.100They both represent massive spending and massive growth of the national debt.
00:51:30.540They have both driven us to endless foreign war, where our inherent national interests, in many cases, in most cases, have never been clear.
00:51:42.640I think that all this does, quite frankly, is reinforce for the American voters that the real contest here isn't between Republicans and Democrats.
00:51:53.400It's between the insiders and the permanent establishment and a valiant outsider who's been the only president in recent times with the courage to take them on.
00:52:07.180I, as you know, think that the endorsement of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and particularly the endorsement of Tulsi Gabbard,
00:52:16.100is the beginning of a new political realignment in this country, where all of those who believe in capitalism, who are anti-communist,
00:52:28.760who want to restore the quality of life for the middle class, who want to take on big pharma and stop the poisoning of America,
00:52:39.520and particularly those who want to do something about our food.
00:52:44.620I mean, I have, since this speech by Robert Kennedy in Arizona, and also an excellent op-ed piece that he wrote at the Wall Street Journal,
00:52:56.820I've started reading the labels of some of the stuff that I was eating, and it blew my mind.
00:53:19.260But in all honesty, I think you have the makings of a major, major political realignment.
00:53:27.980The kind of realignment we saw in 1932 under Franklin Roosevelt.
00:53:31.840The kind of political realignment we had in 1968 under Richard Nixon, which finally manifests itself in the election of Ronald Reagan.
00:53:45.680The only piece that's missing here, somebody that I completely and totally misjudged, somebody I was very critical of on this show and online, something I regret,
00:53:56.660and that is I want to see Nicole Shanahan join the Justice League.
00:54:02.040The videos that she has posted just in the last couple weeks since RFK left the race have been powerful.
00:54:13.520I think that she started this race as a, you know, more of a progressive Democrat, but I think she became red-pilled in this process.
00:54:28.740I think she could be a real asset now to the Trump-Vance-Gabbard-Kennedy team.
00:54:37.480They have the potential here to completely change American politics.
00:54:43.020And yes, I will trade Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney and little Adam Kissinger for RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and Nicole Shanahan any day of the week.
00:55:03.100For them to continue to say that the RFK endorsement has had no impact, I consulted with Trump campaign posters over the weekend.
00:56:18.300At each step of this campaign of lawfare against the president, it is broken his way.
00:56:25.980This has to be done due to divine intervention, has to be due to the prayers, because it's all so improbable.
00:56:33.340Starting with the immunity ruling of the Supreme Court.
00:56:38.140I'm sorry, Andrew Weiss, but it's not a political ruling.
00:56:41.340It's a correct ruling based on the law.
00:56:44.740I love the fact that whenever a federal judge at any level rules against them, they're corrupt, they're incompetent, they're politically motivated.
00:56:53.760But whenever a judge rules the way they want them to rule, they're the most brilliant jurists in the world.
00:56:59.680So I really do think that Judge Juan Merchant, who absolutely knows that his case is going to be overturned on repeal, and may even realize that ultimately he'll be removed from the bench for ethical considerations because his conflicts of interest here are manifest.
00:57:19.020And the fact that, as our mutual friend Laura Loomer has proven, his daughter has made millions and millions and millions of dollars out of this case that her father is presiding over, I think in the end they may have had a brief respite from their Trump derangement syndrome.
00:57:41.200Because had they incarcerated Donald Trump on the 18th or before the election, I think it would have backfired spectacularly.
00:57:51.500I think it would have virtually guaranteed Trump's election.
00:57:56.000Now, normally these people are so completely driven by hate that they wouldn't care.
00:58:03.340But I think in this case they have made what may be a good political calculation.
00:58:09.420On the other hand, Donald Trump now able to roam the country doing these rallies, which, as you've seen, Troy, are getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
00:58:19.240I think Trump has hit his stride in this campaign.