The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Longtime Trump Friend Tom Barrack on How Trump's Cabinet is Shaping Up

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:07.560 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.580 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:17.220 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:22.600 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.600 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.600 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:42.220 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:48.160 Yesterday, just as we were closing the show, we got the word that President Donald Trump has announced

00:00:55.120 that he will appoint Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:01:02.400 This is a great appointment for many, many reasons.

00:01:06.660 First and foremost, because Robert Kennedy is committed to fighting the scourge of chronic childhood disease,

00:01:14.840 committed to re-examine the way pharmaceutical drugs are approved in our country,

00:01:21.180 and absolutely committed to making sure the American people are told the truth on every major health issue.

00:01:30.140 So I want to applaud President Trump for having the courage to make this appointment.

00:01:36.100 I also want to thank Robert Kennedy for being willing to serve.

00:01:40.580 I think this is an important step in the political realignment that we've discussed here so much on the Stone Zone.

00:01:48.140 People need to stop thinking in terms of Republicans and Democrats.

00:01:53.400 The way to think about this is in terms of outsiders like Kennedy, like Trump, like Tulsi Gabbard,

00:02:02.620 and the permanent Washington, unelected, elitist, globalist insiders.

00:02:10.020 That is the true division in America.

00:02:13.240 We are going to break this and other things down for you.

00:02:18.580 But first, let me bring in my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news, my friend Torrey Smith.

00:02:27.960 Roger, it's always an honor to be back with you in the Stone Zone.

00:02:30.680 And just real quickly on your opening monologue there, I wanted to ask you, as somebody who's been in the room,

00:02:35.680 the people in the Washington, D.C. establishment, they work like snakes, and it's more like wolves.

00:02:41.840 You know, they come at the president, and they come at whatever agenda they have, and they pick apart, you know, the truth.

00:02:49.000 And I just wanted to, you know, let you respond to this real quickly.

00:02:52.280 It's going to benefit Trump tremendously just to have people like Tulsi Gabbard, people like RFK in the room,

00:02:58.740 because these are people that have a barometer for BS, they have a barometer for truth,

00:03:02.940 and they're going to be able to help President Trump dissect the incoming attacks to influence him,

00:03:08.960 maybe in a negative way.

00:03:10.220 Roger, can you speak to that as somebody who's been in the room,

00:03:12.700 the value of having people of integrity like that in your cabinet?

00:03:16.020 I mean, it's got to be tremendous.

00:03:18.180 Here's the thing about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that has always impressed me.

00:03:23.340 And, no, I did not urge him to run for president.

00:03:27.540 No, I played no role in his presidential campaign.

00:03:31.760 This became a very popular meme on social media.

00:03:38.000 Late last night, I posted a picture of he and I together that I've had for a couple years,

00:03:43.080 just because we spoke at a conference together.

00:03:46.000 And now I can put it out there without a bunch of conspiracy theorists saying,

00:03:52.120 oh, Stone urged Kennedy to run, to siphon votes from the Democrats.

00:03:59.380 That is entirely untrue.

00:04:02.040 That said, since I read his book on Dr. Fauci, one of the most epic criminals in U.S. history,

00:04:09.560 I've had a strong and fierce admiration for Robert Kennedy because I've never seen him in any

00:04:17.740 interview or debate-type situation in which he could not back up any claim he made with

00:04:25.440 authoritative medical studies and other sources.

00:04:29.200 So I have enormous respect for his intellect.

00:04:32.940 It's annoying to see the fake news media refer to him as a nut.

00:04:40.800 These are the same people who would have us believe that the COVID-19 vaccination is both

00:04:46.480 safe and effective.

00:04:49.140 Numerous political leaders, including Joe Biden, including Ron DeSantis, for that matter,

00:04:54.840 told us, point blank, if you get the vaccination, you cannot, you will not contract COVID-19.

00:05:02.100 That's just not true.

00:05:05.080 And the incidence, the increase in things like testicular cancer and ovarian cancer and other

00:05:13.920 health problems, we're not making this up.

00:05:16.800 If you limit yourself to Facebook or Instagram, you're never going to see any evidence of it.

00:05:23.400 But if you go to Truth Social or you go to X, where Elon Musk is leading the way for free

00:05:30.360 speech, you can find plenty of information.

00:05:33.380 So, look, Robert Kennedy is a truth teller.

00:05:38.800 And he is, I'm sure that those at Big Pharma who are used to having their way, who, as you

00:05:47.120 know, got approval for the COVID-19 vaccination, while having no legal liability whatsoever for

00:05:56.300 any side effect, and without any clinical trials to test whether it was safe and effective

00:06:04.000 indeed, they're crapping their pants right now, and they should be.

00:06:08.560 Well, Roger, it goes to show this trend of people that are, you know, coming out in support of the

00:06:13.980 president, and we've talked about it here, as you said earlier in the monologue, it's the political

00:06:18.800 realignment, and a huge part of this has been Elon Musk.

00:06:22.180 Now, we have a video of Elon Musk at Mar-a-Lago.

00:06:25.180 He's been there a lot recently, and this is causing a lot of panic on the left, because usually, Roger,

00:06:31.880 it's the left that gets George Soros, it's the left that gets the billionaire class, like people like Mark Zuckerberg

00:06:38.300 with lots of money, and the idea that the America First movement has its own billionaire willing to put

00:06:44.340 money behind the movement, behind the political aspirations of Trump and his followers, I think it really

00:06:51.360 rubs them the wrong way, because they've had a monopoly on this class of people for a long time.

00:06:57.440 So, let's play the video of Elon Musk at Mar-a-Lago.

00:07:00.540 I think it's Roger's thoughts on Elon Musk's role in this coming administration.

00:07:05.260 He seems to be playing a huge role.

00:07:07.260 Let's roll that.

00:07:08.340 ...to the Constitution.

00:07:10.760 Anyway, so if that's two of us, it's a delight, and that's me.

00:07:20.000 But, I mean, I'm incredibly excited about the future, and the republic has given us a mandate

00:07:29.680 that could not be welcome there.

00:07:32.900 It's the purest mandate.

00:07:34.620 Pointing the popular vote, clearly, the House, the Senate, the Electoral College, by a mile,

00:07:42.160 the majority of governorships, the majority of legislatures, all the public.

00:07:48.720 The people have spoken. The people want change.

00:08:00.720 I think this is going to be the most powerful presidency, perhaps since the founding of the country.

00:08:11.720 And President Trump is picking the cabinet to do it.

00:08:18.720 You can see that the choices are people who are actually going to make change.

00:08:24.720 It's not going to be business as usual.

00:08:26.720 We're going to shape things up.

00:08:28.720 It's going to be a revolution.

00:08:30.720 And so we're headed towards, I think, a fantastic future.

00:08:34.720 I'm super excited.

00:08:36.720 I look forward to experiencing that with everyone.

00:08:38.720 Thank you.

00:08:48.720 You know, look, Elon Musk is clearly a genius.

00:09:00.720 And I think he and President Trump have extraordinary chemistry.

00:09:04.720 And therefore, yes, he wants nothing for himself, first of all.

00:09:10.720 He is going to head a committee on government efficiency.

00:09:15.720 I love the fact that he asked former Congressman Ron Paul to join the committee.

00:09:20.720 Somebody's been talking about wasting government spending for decades.

00:09:26.720 He's going to have a disproportionate amount of influence.

00:09:30.720 You can see that the fake news media is apoplectic about this.

00:09:36.720 Yesterday there was a story, and I've checked, it's completely fraudulent, that the Trump staff is frustrated by Elon's presence at Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:46.720 NBC, these people are running dog lackeys for the deep state.

00:09:52.720 Virtually nothing they report is either true or accurate.

00:09:56.720 So, look, I think Elon is not only a great man, obviously a great advocate for free speech, a very positive influence on this administration.

00:10:07.720 And I still have not met him.

00:10:09.720 I look forward to meeting him.

00:10:11.720 I think I may meet him tonight, actually, when I'm going to go to Mar-a-Lago for dinner.

00:10:16.720 But I'm an admirer.

00:10:18.720 I was an admirer before he bought X, to be honest with you, before he bought Twitter.

00:10:23.720 So I think that is important.

00:10:26.720 Troy, Tom Barrick is one of President Donald Trump's oldest friends.

00:10:31.720 Tom Barrick, who heads Colony Capital, a real estate investment fund in California, first met Donald Trump decades ago when he was working for the Bass Brothers.

00:10:46.720 And Donald Trump bought the Plaza Hotel in New York from the Bass Brothers.

00:10:52.720 Tom Barrick, who was then working for the Bass Brothers before he struck out and made a fortune on his own, went to New York expecting to negotiate the sale with some Trump Organization staff lawyer.

00:11:06.720 But instead, he ended up negotiating the sale in a complicated negotiation with Donald Trump himself.

00:11:14.720 They became fast friends.

00:11:16.720 I can honestly say that Tom Barrick is perhaps the only person that President Trump regards as a peer.

00:11:24.720 He has great affection for Tom.

00:11:27.720 Tom paid a very high price because he was an advocate for the Abraham Accords.

00:11:33.720 That's because he's Lebanese and it's what he believed in.

00:11:38.720 Federal prosecutors later came back and charged him, claiming that he had to file a foreign agents registration act because he had talked to the president on behalf of the Abraham Accords.

00:11:53.720 Their claim was that because certain interests in the Middle East had invested in his real estate investment firm or trust, I guess it was, that there was some quid pro quo.

00:12:08.720 The problem was it's a long term hold fund.

00:12:12.720 So, yes, he had Middle Eastern money in his fund, but it was deposited 16 years ago, 16 years before Donald Trump became president, 16 years before anyone could possibly know that Trump was going to be president.

00:12:27.720 They tried to, just as they did with me, they tried to pressure Tom Barrick into testifying falsely against his friend Donald Trump.

00:12:37.720 He refused.

00:12:38.720 He went to trial in Brooklyn, New York, a very unfavorable venue. 0.72

00:12:43.720 He was acquitted on all counts because the indictment was ridiculous.

00:12:50.720 He was on, I guess it was MSNBC yesterday to talk about the progress of the Trump administration and the appointment so far.

00:13:00.720 I think it's a great interview.

00:13:01.720 We're going to bring it to you now.

00:13:03.720 Tom, it's great to have you here back at Bloomberg.

00:13:07.720 So good to be with you.

00:13:08.720 It's back to the future a bit.

00:13:10.720 Tom, it's worth reminding everybody a little bit about your relationship with the president elect.

00:13:16.720 Joe just told us, and he's absolutely right, of course, that you were chairman of the inauguration back in 2016.

00:13:23.720 You were, of course, then President Trump's biggest fundraiser at the time.

00:13:28.720 You and he go back more than 40 years.

00:13:31.720 It gives you unique insights into the man and, more importantly, what Trump 2.0 is going to be like.

00:13:41.720 One of the things that people want to know most is how Trump 2.0 is going to be different from Trump 1.0.

00:13:49.720 Tell us.

00:13:51.720 So, first of all, the insight into the man going back 40 years is I've learned one thing.

00:13:59.720 Trust his instincts.

00:14:01.720 And I think what the country now has decided is that all the rhetoric, all the confusion, all the drama around how it may be presented.

00:14:11.720 This is not only one of the greatest political athletes that we've ever seen.

00:14:16.720 He's just one of the greatest athletes.

00:14:19.720 But the question, I think, on what 2.0 is, is it's going to be hopeful, phenomenal, and much better, I think, than even the other side in fear of what might be coming will accept.

00:14:35.720 Why? Because think about it, in 2016, we were together.

00:14:39.720 We were having this conversation.

00:14:41.720 You have a man who's one of the best builder, developers, financiers in the world, a reality talk show host for 13 years on The Apprentice.

00:14:49.720 Zero political experience, zero Washington experience, right?

00:14:53.720 And if you had to go out of the 2-1-2 area code in those days, it was a flurry.

00:15:00.720 Comes to Washington, putting a team together, right?

00:15:05.720 We all thought we were putting the best team together.

00:15:08.720 You had to find resources to do it.

00:15:10.720 People were apprehensive of doing it.

00:15:11.720 And just finding your way around D.C. was not...

00:15:16.720 So is the point that he's no longer a rookie in the job and he knows what he's doing?

00:15:20.720 Well, not only is he not a rookie, he did a great job.

00:15:23.720 And if you think of what happened, right, we went from a Muslim ban to no ISIS.

00:15:28.720 We go to a great economy in the world.

00:15:32.720 We have no problems with Mexico at the time. Immigration is under control. 1.00

00:15:36.720 Health care, security, housing, all of those things seem to be better.

00:15:40.720 Four years then of being attacked physically, legally, socially, and reflecting on all of the other things.

00:15:51.720 So in that reflection of four years, got him ready to say,

00:15:56.720 if I have the opportunity and the stewardship to have another four years and really create my legacy,

00:16:01.720 I now know how to do it.

00:16:03.720 And I know what the people are that I need, and I know the wiring of the plumbing in the system.

00:16:08.720 So let's talk for a moment about the instincts.

00:16:10.720 So few of the president-elect's nominees for cabinet positions, not all of course, but so few, I would say,

00:16:18.720 have the resume traditionally needed to achieve high office.

00:16:24.720 Why? Tom, help us understand, why is he choosing people with such limited experience

00:16:29.720 and limited, on a relative basis, qualifications?

00:16:33.720 I don't know the limited qualifications. Right, qualifications?

00:16:38.720 On a relative basis, if you look at the resumes of the people who got those jobs in the last administration,

00:16:44.720 in the first Trump administration, and administrations going back decades, they were, quote unquote, more qualified.

00:16:51.720 Well, more qualified of being in the system.

00:16:54.720 What the American people just said to Donald Trump is, we believe you, we understand you, we are not supporting the system.

00:17:02.720 It's not working for us.

00:17:03.720 It's not working in housing.

00:17:04.720 It's not working in Medicare.

00:17:05.720 It's not working with our children.

00:17:06.720 We can't say God in school.

00:17:08.720 We don't want our boys to become girls or our girls become boys. 0.99

00:17:11.720 That's out of the system.

00:17:12.720 So I disagree.

00:17:14.720 The qualifications for the system, for the bureaucracy, right?

00:17:17.720 When we talk about the deep state.

00:17:18.720 Or the establishment.

00:17:19.720 And the establishment is not bad, right?

00:17:21.720 These people are not bad.

00:17:23.720 It's not corrupt.

00:17:24.720 It's corroded.

00:17:25.720 So to come in with a new frame of mind, with a new set of people who have integrity, have

00:17:32.720 commitment, have dedication, who understand a different program, is what you need to move

00:17:36.720 the cheese.

00:17:37.720 You need to break the system.

00:17:38.720 You need to move the cheese.

00:17:39.720 You need to break the system.

00:17:40.720 Absolutely.

00:17:41.720 I mean, and you're saying that.

00:17:42.720 It's important to hear you say that.

00:17:45.720 Because you're not, I know this.

00:17:48.720 We've known each other long enough.

00:17:50.720 You're not a burn it down kind of a guy.

00:17:52.720 Absolutely.

00:17:53.720 Because there are ways to succeed inside the system.

00:17:56.720 Trump in many ways has succeeded in spite of the system.

00:18:01.720 And now he kind of wants to burn it down.

00:18:05.720 Is burning it down in principle, is the risks that you take in burning it down, the risks

00:18:13.720 The risks that you take with the rule of law, the risks that you take with civil rights, the risks that you take with military competence, the risks that you take with financial markets, are they worth it?

00:18:23.200 Are they worth the prize that potentially is there at the end of the day when you've burnt it down?

00:18:29.940 Absolutely. And he's not burning it down. And the price is freedom in America, right?

00:18:35.160 I mean, that's what we're looking for, is the American dream to be reinstated.

00:18:39.320 So if you look at how he's doing, it's analog to digital, right?

00:18:42.980 We have a federal government that is not corrupt. The Justice Department itself, we all talk about that as kind of the mainstay of the focus of these atrocities that have happened.

00:18:54.740 Steve Bannon in jail, 27 of his associates indicted. What they've done to him time in and time out, in my opinion, is not because Merrick Garland is corrupt or Lisa Monaco is corrupt or the civil servants, the 94 U.S. attorneys that are there.

00:19:11.100 They're not corrupt. They're corroded. The system doesn't work. You have to change the system.

00:19:16.700 And the only way you can change the system is from the bottom and from the top. And yes, he's going to do it.

00:19:22.800 His appointments absolutely understand the program. Congress now is on site. But by the way, Congress is not so easy, right?

00:19:31.440 If you're a senator in Congress, you don't want your fiefdoms to be totally taken away from you with someone else's decision.

00:19:39.860 So his artfulness in dealing with Congress will be better. But these people are first class choices. Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy just now.

00:19:47.780 You make it sound so reasonable. But even some Republicans look at a nomination of a Matt Gaetz say and think to themselves, WTF, what is Trump doing?

00:20:03.480 Is that a serious nomination or is that sort of a joke or perhaps a maneuver of some sort?

00:20:14.360 Obviously, I can't speak for the president. I can tell you it's not a joke. So what is he doing? He's disintermediating everything.

00:20:21.900 We've lived in 10 years of disintermediation of everything that we've known, right?

00:20:26.440 Every company that was AAA 10 years ago is almost nonexistent today. So it's the same thing.

00:20:36.660 Matt Gaetz, his pick of a Matt Gaetz going into something like the Justice Department, right?

00:20:41.240 When you think of the thousands of GS-12s, GS-11s, GS-10s, lawyers, FBI agents, it has to have some chilling effect.

00:20:52.180 Some chilling effect?

00:20:55.020 Well, he's not there yet. His qualifications will be vetted by the Senate.

00:21:01.020 Do you want somebody out of the system that's been a critique of the system when the people in America are saying,

00:21:08.240 this system is not working for us? None of it is working for us.

00:21:12.000 So put somebody in who agrees the system isn't working. He can't move it individually.

00:21:16.840 Surely Matt Gaetz is not the only person who thinks the system isn't working.

00:21:20.200 There are a lot of people to choose from.

00:21:23.120 Yes, there are. And Matt was a loyalist.

00:21:27.300 He took on heavy-duty fire in the midst of a lot of controversial things.

00:21:32.780 And the president knows what he's doing.

00:21:35.100 I think we should just give him a chance, trust his instincts.

00:21:40.500 This man has been thinking about all of this for four years.

00:21:43.880 He had four years of unbelievable experience.

00:21:45.860 He's going to do the right thing for all of us. And it's not retribution. It's not divisiveness.

00:21:51.500 In his mind, his legacy is the most important thing to him at the time, promises made, promises kept along that road.

00:21:58.740 Promises made, promises kept.

00:22:02.020 Tom, I think back to a conversation that you and I had in 2021.

00:22:05.140 And it was, for very unpleasant reasons for you, an untimely conversation.

00:22:12.820 But it was timely in the sense that it gave you a chance to reflect on where you'd been with the president in his first term.

00:22:19.860 And one thing you told me is that you didn't want to be part of a campaign built on divisiveness

00:22:25.340 if the president wanted to take, if President Trump wanted to take a second run at the White House.

00:22:30.900 This was a campaign built on divisiveness. How did you get over that?

00:22:35.760 Well, the reason that I entered into it is I had been a subject of a nine-count indictment by the Eastern District.

00:22:47.440 Although you didn't know it at the time. You didn't know that was coming when we spoke.

00:22:52.920 It was just before.

00:22:54.220 No, but I wasn't involved in the campaign at that time.

00:22:57.240 So I had done my service for him, for the country. I was honored.

00:23:00.660 I couldn't believe that, you know, a Lebanese financial lawyer like myself could ever work for the president of the United States.

00:23:08.500 And then it starts.

00:23:10.340 And I look at that experience of saying, fine, if you fly at 40,000 feet, it's not I'm being targeted,

00:23:18.020 but I'm not being targeted out of corruption.

00:23:20.020 I'm being targeted because the political will of the other side is saying, ah, we need to mobilize our political agenda.

00:23:29.120 Now, fortunately, I had the resources to be capable of mounting a defense.

00:23:36.020 So what my whole experience was is the system works, right? The system works.

00:23:40.440 I had a one-and-a-half-year experience. I had a two-month trial.

00:23:45.360 There's a judge in the jury and one day a full acquittal.

00:23:49.200 The average person doesn't do that.

00:23:51.280 So in the Justice Department, and I'm getting to why Trump, Trump has gone through this in spades.

00:23:56.020 Nobody knows what it does to your life.

00:23:58.680 This man can suffer, absorb more pain than any human being I have ever seen.

00:24:04.700 What it does to lives, what it's done to the lives of all the people around, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, they've all been attacked.

00:24:12.320 So for me coming back and saying I was honored to be a part of it, I went through this system, and I admire the system, and I don't have anger, revenge, even at the people who brought those charges against me.

00:24:27.000 I understand what they're doing, but it's got to be fixed.

00:24:30.660 It has to end.

00:24:31.960 It has to end not prosecuting Democrats, not prosecuting the existing prosecutors, not prosecuting the political people who were there before.

00:24:39.460 We have to say, hey, time out.

00:24:40.580 This isn't Venezuela.

00:24:41.540 We need a new system.

00:24:43.840 Okay.

00:24:44.980 Yes or no?

00:24:45.620 That's all I'm going to ask.

00:24:46.560 Should Donald Trump, as one of his first acts as president, pardon anybody who might otherwise be prosecuted for the same reasons on the Democratic side?

00:24:55.760 That's up to the president.

00:24:57.520 Yes or no?

00:24:58.780 It's way outside of the way.

00:25:00.120 All right.

00:25:00.720 Tom, it's been wonderful having you here.

00:25:02.160 Thank you so very much.

00:25:02.940 Thank you.

00:25:04.780 Great interview with a man who knows Donald Trump perhaps better than anybody.

00:25:10.720 I apologize.

00:25:12.120 I was under the impression that was on MSNBC.

00:25:15.220 It was on Bloomberg, actually.

00:25:17.160 But well worth watching.

00:25:19.040 I think he's absolutely right.

00:25:20.900 I don't think the president is obsessed with revenge or retribution.

00:25:26.760 I think he understands that the way to go down in history among our greatest presidents, along with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, is to unite the country.

00:25:42.500 And the way he's going to unite the country.

00:25:44.700 He understands that the country is with a robust economy because a rising tide lifts all boats.

00:25:50.840 He understands that the cornerstone to restoring our economic strength is low energy prices.

00:25:58.800 That, in turn, will give him the resources necessary to deal with the problem of affordable housing, to deal with the problem of more job opportunities.

00:26:10.080 He's, as I think it was Ronald Reagan who said, the greatest social welfare program in the world is a good job.

00:26:17.420 So, this is what I think Trump's legacy will be.

00:26:21.140 Yes, he's appointed a controversial and potentially a very tough attorney general who I think is going to examine fairly whether there are some in the previous administration, such as John Brennan or James Comey or Susan Rice, who acted in a treasonous manner.

00:26:43.400 That's not that's not that's not persecution in my case today happens to be the I think the fourth anniversary of my conviction and all of the stories that will report that none of them will mention that the judge in my case withheld from my defense attorneys Robert Mueller's final fully unredacted report.

00:27:08.460 They would allow me to allow me to use it in my defense, even though the Constitution says that a defendant is allowed to see all of the evidence against them.

00:27:17.660 Now we know why, because BuzzFeed sued the Justice Department and finally got the unredacted report.

00:27:26.060 Now, I'm sure the folks at BuzzFeed, which is now out of business, thought that this would be embarrassing to me, but on the contrary, it was completely exonerating.

00:27:36.000 You can read it for yourself, but you'll have trouble finding it because the Washington Post and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and CNN and MSNBC and ABC and CBS never reported it.

00:27:50.780 But Robert Mueller concluded that he could find no evidence of Russian collusion or WikiLeaks collaboration on my part.

00:27:59.900 He went on to say that even if he had found such evidence, which he didn't, that he had concluded that those activities would not have been illegal.

00:28:10.960 So my family and I were put through hell for process crimes, for allegedly lying under oath to Congress in voluntary testimony.

00:28:24.160 They didn't even have to subpoena me.

00:28:25.800 I showed up voluntarily.

00:28:27.820 But to violate the False Statements Act, your false statement has to be willful, and it has to cover up some underlying crime.

00:28:39.160 It has to be material.

00:28:42.340 The things I was charged with were immaterial.

00:28:46.340 And then the sentencing recommendation of the prosecutors in my case wanted to give me additional jail time for crimes I had never been charged or convicted of.

00:29:00.980 They said in the report that I had been involved in foreign interference in the election.

00:29:05.920 That was false.

00:29:06.920 They said, I threatened to kill a federal judge.

00:29:10.220 I've addressed this.

00:29:11.400 It's not true.

00:29:12.660 It's not even remotely true.

00:29:14.840 But when you get caught in one of these media maelstroms, the truth rarely matters.

00:29:22.380 In this particular case, yes, I was defending myself online to raise money for my legal defense.

00:29:28.980 I posted a picture of the judge.

00:29:30.940 Up in the tiny dot in the upper left-hand corner, there is a logo for the organization, Corruption Central, which produced the original image.

00:29:44.320 If you look very closely, it's based on a Celtic cross.

00:29:49.660 I got a sworn affidavit from the graphic artist who designed it, and he said, no, it had nothing to do with a rifle crosshair.

00:29:59.840 But by the end of the day, every major news outlet said that I had posted a photo of the judge in my case with a rifle crosshairs over her face.

00:30:12.020 That was a lie.

00:30:13.380 But try to get the truth out in the middle of one of these media feeding frenzies.

00:30:19.620 It's virtually impossible.

00:30:21.780 So I'm going to be writing that today to point out the falsity of those who are celebrating my conviction, for which I have a full and unconditional presidential pardon.

00:30:35.900 I guess it was now four years ago today, I believe.

00:30:40.220 Anyway, Troy, what's up next?

00:30:42.200 Well, Roger, we have a lot to get to today in the video department.

00:30:46.340 One of our favorites here at the Stone Zone, Dan Goldman, has, you know, the Democrats are really spinning in their wheels because they're trying to figure out why they just got destroyed in an election, not only in the popular vote, but in the Electoral College as well.

00:31:01.780 It's very tough for them in their world of anti-Trump hate to cope with the fact that a majority of Americans want Trump to lead the country.

00:31:09.780 They put Trump in the White House.

00:31:11.100 So one of the things that they're now throwing around in Congress, they've actually filed a resolution on this, Roger, is a resolution stating that Trump can only serve two terms. 0.82

00:31:21.700 Now, completely useless.

00:31:22.880 I mean, there's not been any talk of Trump serving more than two terms. 0.66

00:31:26.000 He's joked about it, I think, one time.

00:31:28.100 But Dan Goldman went on MSNBC to talk about this. 0.74

00:31:31.820 I want to roll this and get your thought on this ridiculous ploy by the Democrats.

00:31:35.760 I mean, if this isn't grasping at straws, I really don't know what it is.

00:31:38.720 Let's roll that.

00:31:39.260 Isn't that already clear?

00:31:41.180 Like, don't we already know that?

00:31:43.220 Yes, it is very clear, which is why it should be very easy for every single Republican member of Congress to vote in favor of this resolution.

00:31:52.180 But Donald Trump, as you point out, Chris, has joked, quote, unquote, about many different things, including, as I remember, in 2018, he joked about pardoning himself.

00:32:02.480 And then that became completely normalized, and everyone just expected him to pardon himself if he won this time.

00:32:09.500 The same thing has been happening.

00:32:11.600 He has mentioned this over and over and over again for years now.

00:32:17.000 And his jokes are not jokes.

00:32:19.320 Nobody takes them as jokes.

00:32:21.140 They are trial balloons.

00:32:22.180 They are very intentionally designed to soften the response and then to normalize his unconstitutional and anti-democratic goals.

00:32:33.740 And so this—

00:32:34.500 This is an absurdity.

00:32:37.660 This is the same Dan Goldman, the trust fund baby who purchased himself a seat in Congress from New York's Silk Stocking District of Manhattan.

00:32:46.420 He is a man who said that Donald Trump needed to be eliminated just weeks before an assassination— pardon me, an assassin tried to do exactly that.

00:33:00.340 He also, when Kash Patel set up a foundation to help those whistleblowers in the FBI who were fired—not fired, pardon me, suspended, so they couldn't go get a job elsewhere, but suspended without pay.

00:33:17.400 Today, when Kash Patel set up a foundation to raise money to support the whistleblowers' families, Dan Goldman accused him of paying them for false testimony, which is, of course, a lie.

00:33:32.360 Now, Dan Goldman is in a contest with Jamie Raskin to see who can be the most irresponsible and dishonest member of Congress.

00:33:41.740 I still think Raskin's in the lead, but Goldman's moving up on him quickly.

00:33:48.640 Well, it's just unbelievable to see, you know, and the process is very straightforward, Roger.

00:33:53.540 I mean, these are guys, like Dan Goldman particularly, they go into committee hearings, and they did this to you.

00:33:58.680 And I believe it was Jamie Raskin that came out and said that he had definite evidence that you had colluded with Russia.

00:34:05.500 And he was telling news outlets this based on privileged classified information that he had received behind closed doors.

00:34:11.920 We found out that's a total lie, but can you comment on that?

00:34:14.360 Because that's what these people do, right?

00:34:15.940 They go into classified hearings, they run out to the media, and they start spewing lies based on that classified information.

00:34:22.440 I'd like to see in this next Republican Congress, Roger, them start to take action against people who do this.

00:34:27.900 Because these are classified hearings, and to go out and misrepresent what you hear to the press for your own political benefit, I mean, that's just horrible.

00:34:36.660 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:34:38.440 So in the House Intelligence Committee hearings, theoretically, under the House rules, there's supposed to be no discussion of what happens in a classified hearing.

00:34:48.440 Yet, within hours of my testimony, you had Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, who we now know was penetrating a red Chinese spy who was in turn penetrating his office.

00:35:03.880 He was entitled to classified information.

00:35:08.360 God knows how much of it he passed on to the Chinese spy.

00:35:12.160 You also had that half-pint congressman from Texas, whose name escapes me, all saying that I had perjured myself, which was not true.

00:35:23.660 So the rules don't apply for them.

00:35:25.880 At least they didn't used to apply for them.

00:35:28.560 Adam Schiff not only violated House rules, he violated the law in the Russian collusion hoax.

00:35:36.820 And right now, my guess is that he's crapping his pants over the fact that you may have in Matt Gaetz, an attorney general who is committed to the rule of law.

00:35:49.100 Really funny to watch Eric Swalwell yesterday say that Matt Gaetz is not a serious person.

00:35:56.180 Eric Swalwell, who has an IQ of 70 on a good day.

00:36:02.400 I mean, this stuff would be funny if it wasn't true.

00:36:06.660 But the Democrats really fear those who have violated the law.

00:36:12.080 They really fear prosecution.

00:36:14.180 That's why when I was on with Clayton Morris yesterday on Unredacted, his great show, I still said that my number one fear was yet another assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

00:36:27.900 Now, that would sound like a crazy conspiracy theory, but for the fact that they've already tried to kill him twice that we know of.

00:36:38.860 So that remains my greatest fear, because the president is signaling that Washington is not going to be business as usual.

00:36:49.220 It's not going to be the way it was.

00:36:51.300 There's a new sheriff in town, and we're going to live under the rule of law, not the perversion of the rule of law that we saw under the Biden administration and before that, the Obama administration.

00:37:06.620 Well, and Roger, there's been a lot of warnings from D.C. about Jack Smith and his investigation and the idea that he's going to walk away.

00:37:15.760 We talked about that yesterday.

00:37:17.660 He's resigning, but he's going to release his report before Trump takes power.

00:37:21.320 And we have an article from Fox News where top GOP senators are warning the DOJ to preserve all the documents in the Jack Smith investigation.

00:37:33.020 And they're even citing past destruction of records here.

00:37:36.880 So they're saying, you guys have a history of deleting and destroying anything that might incriminate you.

00:37:41.780 We want to take a look at this investigation.

00:37:44.220 We want to take a look at what's going on.

00:37:46.040 What do you have to say about this warning from GOP senators?

00:37:50.660 Is there anything that we can do here to prevent them from basically shredding everything that incriminates them?

00:37:56.180 Well, it's unfortunate in one way.

00:37:58.820 Look, I'm glad that Jack Smith has recognized that, based on the Supreme Court decision, that he is unable to prosecute a sitting president, which Donald Trump is going to be.

00:38:11.160 There are some who suggest that the indictments of Trump should be frozen in time so that he can be tried after the Trump presidency.

00:38:21.180 I don't think that's going to happen.

00:38:23.620 Judge Cannon in Florida ruled correctly that Jack Smith's appointment is unconstitutional.

00:38:31.920 He was never approved by the U.S. Senate.

00:38:35.200 There is no law that creates his position.

00:38:38.460 There is no budgeting for his position.

00:38:41.560 There is no special counsel law.

00:38:44.340 There was an independent counsel law, which the Democrats loved when it was used to investigate Iran-Contra and the Bush administration.

00:38:54.920 But they didn't like it so much when it was used to investigate Bill Clinton.

00:38:58.940 So they let it expire.

00:39:01.820 So I happen to think, just based, not on any contact with Judge Cannon, who I've never met in my life, never seen, never communicated with, but I can read.

00:39:12.300 I read all of the filings from both sides in the so-called document case.

00:39:17.400 And I was also familiar with the argument about the constitutionality of Smith's appointment.

00:39:22.840 Now, that has been, had been appealed to the 11th Circuit, which comprises Florida.

00:39:29.860 I don't know what the 11th Circuit would have done, but I'm not sure it matters whether they had upheld Cannon or upheld Smith.

00:39:38.060 The question was going to go to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:39:41.360 I think, just my opinion, that the Supreme Court would find, despite what Andrew Weissman may say or Neil Keitel or any of these other criminals who are on MSNBC, that Smith's appointment is indeed unconstitutional.

00:39:59.100 Well, if Smith's appointment was unconstitutional, well, then so was Robert Mueller's.

00:40:04.480 Robert Mueller, that was challenged in the D.C. Circuit, and it was wrongly decided.

00:40:12.020 So, but if the Supreme Court ruled that Smith was unconstitutionally appointed, then it is logical to conclude that Mueller was also unconstitutionally appointed.

00:40:26.900 And frankly, my lawyers would have moved to completely vacate the charges against me.

00:40:31.820 I believe that General Flynn would do the same, probably Paul Manafort as well.

00:40:37.820 Unfortunately, we will never have that opportunity now because Smith has announced that he will drop his cases, in essence, and resign.

00:40:47.820 But I think there needs to be an examination of whether Jack Smith was coordinating the prosecution of Donald Trump in Georgia and in New York in at least two cases there, because I believe there's more than ample evidence that he was.

00:41:07.240 That is a legitimate question, and I hope if Matt Gaetz gets to be attorney general or whoever the next attorney general ends up to be, presumably Gaetz, that they will look into that because it is an egregious violation of law.

00:41:22.940 What's driving Democrats and the establishment media crazy is they're now finally going to be held responsible for their lies.

00:41:33.100 They're going to be held accountable for the tsunami of disinformation in their efforts to destroy Donald Trump.

00:41:43.660 Look, they tried to keep him off the ballot in 50 states, all the while telling us that they were protecting democracy.

00:42:01.100 It's a new day in America.

00:42:04.300 You can feel it when you go out in the streets.

00:42:07.120 You know, I usually, when I go to the grocery store, I wear sunglasses and a hat because I just don't want to argue with abusive leftists who want to get into it with you, not interested.

00:42:20.520 Day before yesterday, my wife wanted me to pick some things up at the grocery store.

00:42:24.740 I wore, for the first time ever, a Trump T-shirt that Anthony Constantino at StickerMutal.com gave to me.

00:42:31.820 It's a great, great T-shirt.

00:42:33.540 It says in giant letters, Trump for peace.

00:42:36.880 And I wore it, and I was amazed at how many people came up to me who I think previously would have said nothing to tell me that they voted for Trump and they were glad that he won.

00:42:47.180 And here's the great thing, Troy, I would say that as many as 20 people stopped me in the grocery store to tell me that they voted for Trump and they were glad that he won.

00:42:57.080 And of those 20, 17 were African-Americans.

00:43:01.220 Now, that's not a scientific sample, but it does say an awful lot.

00:43:07.200 Well, it does.

00:43:07.880 And changing of the times, you know, 2016, you couldn't imagine a scenario like that because the propaganda was so thick. 0.90

00:43:13.660 And they, you know, everybody had been told that Donald Trump was this racist, you know, card-carrying racist. 0.58

00:43:19.500 They literally called him that. 0.97

00:43:21.120 And, you know, they spread horrible lies about his father, horrible lies about his family.

00:43:25.400 And it's terrible.

00:43:26.400 And, you know, I feel that in every clip that we play here, Roger, these people panicking.

00:43:32.500 You know, the, I mean, people like George Conway ran advertisements in this election with Trump's father, like a, like transparent image of Trump's father.

00:43:44.800 It's like talking, saying, I'm ashamed of you, talking to Trump.

00:43:49.000 I mean, that level of hatred, Roger, is something that, it's not just something we haven't seen in politics.

00:43:54.380 You just don't see that in general.

00:43:56.440 And I think one of the amazing things about Trump that we don't really talk about is the level to which he's pulled the rope and the curtain away from the media.

00:44:07.500 And we see how really vicious and evil these people really are. 0.99

00:44:11.500 They are sick, demented individuals. 1.00

00:44:14.400 People on MSNBC, they're out of their minds. 1.00

00:44:16.980 And the fact that we are supposed to look to them, you know, people like, I have to scratch and fight for slingshot news to be respected.

00:44:25.960 And people, like we talked to Michael Knowles yesterday, independent media people, we have to scratch and fight.

00:44:31.560 Meanwhile, they got people like Joy Reid up there on MSNBC, who says that the president was never shot, that he, when Trump fell down on the stage, this is what she claims.

00:44:42.520 He took out a blood capsule and bit it and spread the blood on his face to fake that he was shot.

00:44:51.220 That's legitimately what Joy Reid claims happened when Trump was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:44:56.240 We're supposed to believe her.

00:44:57.780 She's credible.

00:44:58.880 No one ever questions her credibility.

00:45:00.500 But people like me, people like Michael Knowles, people like yourself, you know, we're not credible.

00:45:04.320 And it's just something we have to address in this administration.

00:45:07.740 We have to see media get more involved.

00:45:11.120 We have to see more independent media and we have to see the president, I hope, and his administration honor that independent media more than what we see, you know, in the mainstream media, which is just getting worse and worse.

00:45:24.200 Roger, we have another story that I want to get your comment on, you know, because true social really, I know Twitter was very important and X, you know, eventually probably was the main factor in Trump winning this election.

00:45:36.200 But true social was really instrumental before that in getting Trump's voice back.

00:45:41.980 You see, before true social, Trump was not allowed to post anywhere.

00:45:45.640 And it wasn't until he started posting there that that Elon Musk eventually took over Twitter.

00:45:50.760 And I think the Democrats see this, Roger, and they're very angry about it.

00:45:54.600 So they have launched a new effort to kind of rival true social with this Twitter clone called Blue Sky.

00:46:02.000 And they've paid these large Hollywood people like George Takai and Ben Stiller and others to go over to Blue Sky and to tweet about Democrat politics.

00:46:12.720 All the major Democrats are on there.

00:46:14.800 We have a screenshot from the feed there.

00:46:17.960 And it's very strange if you go on there.

00:46:19.640 It's mostly AI generated content.

00:46:21.940 You see a lot of AI generated comments and users.

00:46:25.020 I want to get your thoughts on this.

00:46:26.460 Did the Democrats look at true social and say, wow, we've got to have something like that?

00:46:30.280 Is that what this is?

00:46:34.280 It appears that must be the case.

00:46:36.640 Look, I'm all for free speech.

00:46:38.260 I don't care if you're a communist, a socialist, a vegetarian, wherever you are.

00:46:42.900 They can have their own website, a social media platform.

00:46:49.100 That's great.

00:46:50.400 I think what drives them crazy about X, formerly known as Twitter, is heretofore they had a monopoly on discourse.

00:46:59.440 So if you didn't matter what you believed, if you believed that the COVID-19 vaccination was not safe and effective,

00:47:07.620 or you believed that the 2020 election was stolen, or you believed that their Russian collusion claims were a hoax,

00:47:15.920 you were summarily just silenced.

00:47:18.340 I mean, I had 980,000 followers in 2017 when I was banned on Twitter.

00:47:26.740 I never got an email or any notice from them.

00:47:29.760 I never was told which of their many rules that I violated, but my page just disappeared overnight.

00:47:41.900 And then some research group affiliated with George Soros released a report which claimed completely falsely

00:47:50.740 that I owned hundreds of fake profiles on Facebook, and therefore I should be banned for life there, which I was.

00:48:00.620 By the way, I did have multiple profiles.

00:48:04.200 I had my personal one.

00:48:06.820 I had one for the Stone Zone, my website.

00:48:09.920 I had one for each of the books that I've written.

00:48:13.080 The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, The Clintons' War on Women, The Bush Crime Family.

00:48:22.300 I had one for The Making of the President, 2016, my book on the election about how Donald Trump works straight in the American Revolution.

00:48:34.740 But I was accused of controlling Facebook profiles for people who may or may not have existed.

00:48:42.680 I don't know, but I had nothing whatsoever to do with.

00:48:45.120 But on the basis of this Soros-funded report, I was banned for life on Facebook.

00:48:53.220 I still am.

00:48:55.040 Now, the irony of that is, Troy, there's a bunch of Roger Stones on Facebook today.

00:48:59.760 You can find them.

00:49:00.960 They're selling crypto.

00:49:02.380 They're offering people jobs.

00:49:05.580 They're actually collecting people's financial information.

00:49:09.700 Folks, I'm not on Facebook.

00:49:11.440 That's not me.

00:49:13.280 And it pops up on X as well.

00:49:15.740 So they take my legitimate X profile.

00:49:19.720 They take the exact same artwork and the same profile.

00:49:23.640 And then they post it.

00:49:25.480 They change a letter or two in my handle to make it look like it's me.

00:49:31.000 My lawyers, in the case of Facebook, we complain to Meta.

00:49:36.520 First of all, it takes forever for them to respond.

00:49:38.700 They just ignore you.

00:49:40.240 But then when the people claiming to be me are taken down, they just pop up again later, hours later, making a slight change in the handle name.

00:49:51.360 It's very galling.

00:49:54.720 Bottom line, folks.

00:49:56.680 If you see Roger Stone on Facebook, it's not me.

00:50:00.360 Don't buy any crypto from them.

00:50:02.600 Don't assume in any way that's me because it isn't.

00:50:07.880 Would I like to be restored on Facebook?

00:50:09.900 Sure, I would.

00:50:10.740 Do I think that's ever going to happen?

00:50:12.300 I kind of doubt it.

00:50:13.620 So if the real Roger Stone ever tries to post a profile on Facebook, it'll come down like that.

00:50:20.440 But all these fake Roger Stones, they're allowed to exist.

00:50:25.520 Now, I used to have a vibrant following on Instagram as well.

00:50:30.500 But just because Meta owns both Facebook and Instagram, I was banned for life there as well.

00:50:37.560 Now, the problem here, of course, is that these people, they fear the truth.

00:50:43.460 That's the real problem.

00:50:44.780 They are opposed to anyone who challenges their narrative.

00:50:51.500 This is what's so great about X.

00:50:53.540 This is what's so great about truth social.

00:50:57.380 So I'm proud to be back on X.

00:51:00.380 By the way, you can find me at Roger J. Stone Jr.

00:51:03.820 Roger J. Stone Jr.

00:51:05.860 I'm verified.

00:51:06.800 I'd like to change my profile picture.

00:51:10.020 But if you do, well, then you lose your verification, at least temporarily.

00:51:15.000 So I'm not going to fool with it.

00:51:16.720 But please follow me there.

00:51:18.740 I think you will find it lively and entertaining.

00:51:24.720 Two housekeeping things that I do need to go into.

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00:53:03.540 Because, well, we're still digging out from the hole that was caused in our personal finances by Robert Mueller.

00:53:11.040 One other key point I want to cover, and that is, yes, I helped put together a bid to buy Infowars out of bankruptcy.

00:53:21.680 What I contributed was sweat equity.

00:53:24.260 I didn't put up any money because I don't have any money to put up, but I did help bring together other qualified investors.

00:53:32.740 And the bid at first was given to a group that, I guess, owns the onion.

00:53:39.580 But that decision has now been frozen because of evidence of corruption in the bankruptcy trustee proceeding.

00:53:49.340 So it's not clear today whether or not the folks I'm working with are going to get control of Infowars or not.

00:53:58.660 Hope springs eternal.

00:54:00.480 So for all you people on X who were celebrating that our bid had been defeated, not so fast.

00:54:08.200 Let's see what happens.

00:54:10.240 Meanwhile, as you know, Troy, Alex Jones didn't miss a beat, even though they took Infowars away from him, basically padlocked the place.

00:54:19.100 He jumped over to X with the Alex Jones Network.

00:54:23.180 He's running huge numbers there.

00:54:25.720 I urge folks to follow him there and start listening to him there.

00:54:29.880 I was proud to be among his first guests.

00:54:33.380 And it just demonstrates, again, the truth will never be silenced.

00:54:37.880 The truth will always, always come out.

00:54:41.720 Well, and Roger, the idea that Alex has gone under so much fire.

00:54:47.060 I mean, they've taken everything from him.

00:54:48.860 They destroyed his name in many ways.

00:54:50.860 I mean, more ways than you can really count.

00:54:52.480 And as you've kind of talked about here on the show today, surviving that media frenzy where they get all of these, you know, the Daily Beast, the Guardian, you know, all these groups they put out, the New Republic.

00:55:04.520 They put out all these articles in a coordinated fashion.

00:55:07.980 And even the mainstream news gets on it.

00:55:10.740 To survive that for the amount of time that Alex Jones has and the fact that Infowars continues to triumph, it's pretty amazing.

00:55:18.160 And one thing real quickly, Roger, I want to say on the Facebook front with the fake profiles, one thing I did notice, you know, I know a few people who have been lifetime banned from Facebook.

00:55:26.560 You're one of them.

00:55:27.200 Laura Loomer is another one.

00:55:28.360 And if you look on Facebook and you look at the names of these profiles and you go into the fake profiles and the descriptions that they have, it almost leads always back to a thing called QFS.

00:55:41.260 And it's this weird quantum financial system that people talk about.

00:55:46.340 And if you trace it all back, it comes back to some of the most hardcore right-wing conspiracy theorists, the most dangerous people on the Internet, really.

00:55:54.720 The people that the mainstream media tells us are destroying lives and hurting people and spreading propaganda.

00:56:01.740 And it's just interesting.

00:56:02.960 You're banned.

00:56:03.840 People that I know are banned.

00:56:05.720 But the impersonators, the people, these hardcore conspiracy theorists that literally steal money from people, they're allowed to operate.

00:56:12.980 And it's why we have to have channels like this, Roger, here on Rumble, where people can follow us, rumble.com slash Roger Stone.

00:56:19.860 And also on the Stone Zone, where you put up your radio show and you put up clips of the show.

00:56:24.940 I mean, it's just it's so important for us to have those communication channels.

00:56:28.780 And you, Roger, having the experience you do, you remember a time when you didn't have access to independent media and you were really at the will of the mainstream media.

00:56:37.680 It must be nice to have have a voice today.

00:56:40.540 It is, Troy.

00:56:42.920 It's really great to be back and hope to see Elon Musk, hopefully tonight, to thank him in person for restoring my voice.

00:56:50.940 All right.

00:56:51.160 We're out of time here, unfortunately, and therefore we got to move towards the exit.

00:56:55.700 Remind folks that you can see us.

00:56:57.840 You have three opportunities, actually.

00:57:00.180 We're at worldviewtube.com at four o'clock central, five o'clock eastern.

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00:57:07.200 But if you miss it there, you want to see it later in the day, well, download the Rumble app to your phone and sign up at rumble.com slash Roger Stone.

00:57:18.100 You can see the little yellow, pardon me, little green box there where you can follow us and then set a notification to remind you when we're going to be on.

00:57:26.980 We try to bring you the best political analysis out there.

00:57:31.380 Troy Smith will not be attending the swearing in of Larry Hogan as the U.S. senator from Maryland because too bad Larry lost.

00:57:41.740 Anyway, until tomorrow, God bless you.

00:57:44.840 Godspeed.

00:57:45.540 We'll see you right here on the Stone Zone.

00:57:47.720 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.

00:58:02.860 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.

00:58:05.300 Roger Stone.

00:58:06.360 Where's Roger Stone?

00:58:07.460 Roger Stone.

00:58:24.720 Roger Stone.

00:58:25.320 Yeah.

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00:58:34.160 Yeah.

00:58:36.100 Okay.

00:58:36.120 Yeah.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - November 16, 2024

Longtime Trump Friend Tom Barrack on How Trump's Cabinet is Shaping Up

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