In this episode of The Stone Zone, I am joined by Luke Rudkowski of We Are Changed. Luke is a libertarian, a patriot, and an early advocate of a pardon for Ross Ulbricht, who was recently released from prison after serving 7 years in prison for conspiracy to commit fraud, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and conspiracy to spread false flags. We talk about how important it is to have a free and fair trial for people who have done nothing wrong, and why we should all be fighting for their release.
00:00:56.340I appreciate you taking the time to have me on here.
00:01:00.620Right after you just had Alex Jones on, that was a very epic, very important interview that I just saw as well here.
00:01:06.740There's a lot of important stuff to talk about.
00:01:09.160As I think the warnings that we're getting right now is that there definitely is a situation that's very ripe for a false flag that could happen in any moment right now.
00:01:18.380That I think is important to forewarn a lot of people about because there's going to be some big, drastic changes coming our way.
00:01:31.340You know, people I think are always surprised.
00:01:33.260These are the people who don't go to Infowars, don't see them online.
00:01:35.860They buy this caricature of him as some kind of troglodyte or sometimes some kind of caveman.
00:01:41.640And then when you listen to the guy, yeah, he has some predictions or some beliefs that are out there, but he can tell you why he believes him.
00:01:49.080He can cite scientific studies and other authoritative information.
00:01:53.500He's very articulate and he can argue for all of his points of view.
00:01:58.360I think that surprised a lot of my listeners who haven't heard him previously.
00:02:02.540Yeah, he's a juggernaut of the establishment.
00:02:07.700I've known him since 2004 and he has never let off of the gas pedal when it comes to exposing all of the things that so many powerful people try to keep away from you.
00:02:19.840So it's just amazing to still see him out there, still see him doing everything that he's doing after being attacked so viciously.
00:02:28.200I dealt with my, you know, smaller attacks here.
00:02:30.100But, you know, we got to admit it, this guy went through the ringer.
00:02:33.400I mean, this guy owes more money than the GDP of foreign countries and still comes out the other end here and just also did an amazing interview with Tucker Carlson.
00:02:45.960That also is now being shared by millions of people.
00:02:49.820So you were one of the very early advocates of a of a pardon for Ross Albrecht, who is the still young man who invented the dark web, essentially.
00:03:01.120And the Biden administration, like the Obama administration before, has always been extraordinarily hostile to the whole notion of cryptocurrency and Bitcoin and any monetary system that they couldn't completely control.
00:03:16.060And they indicted and charged, in some cases convicted, squeezed guilty pleas out of many, many, many crypto pioneers when they really hadn't done anything wrong.
00:03:28.640Now you have a new administration that is, thanks to Scott Besant and others, completely open to crypto, seized crypto for its value.
00:03:40.520How do you feel about this sea change?
00:03:42.600I mean, no, this is an amazing time that will bring a lot of innovation, a lot of entrepreneurship here to the United States.
00:03:50.260I was talking about Bitcoin when it was still just just a few bucks.
00:03:54.720When it was about 100 bucks, we told our audience about Bitcoin, that it was worth looking into and that this is going to be a disruptive technology against the U.S. Federal Reserve banking system.
00:04:05.960If you look at the banking system right now, they are vehemently opposed against Donald Trump.
00:04:11.500Donald Trump has been trying to get the Fed to lower rates.
00:04:14.480But I think this is why we are seeing such an important kind of shift and pivot here towards alternatives.
00:04:21.240And I think what happened with Ross Ulbricht was one of the greatest accomplishments for the libertarian ever.
00:04:29.220I think it really solidified this kind of more libertarian, freedom-oriented Republican political party that now is kicking out the old neocon Bush-era party.
00:04:41.720But it's still pretty evident in there, but this kind of relationship with entrepreneurship, with successful people, with people who want to innovate, with people who want to build, with people who want to grow in this country and now have the opportunity to do so without going to jail, that right there is a monumental opportunity that we have not had for a long time.
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00:06:33.080After Jeffrey Epstein's arrest, you famously journeyed to Epstein Island to report on the odd structure built there.
00:06:40.820What did you find and what are your thoughts on the fact that the New York FBI office seems to have continued to withhold vital Epstein documents, videos, hard drives from the attorney general and thus from the public?
00:06:57.840Yeah, I mean, we've been waiting quite a long time here.
00:07:01.520And it's fair to assume now with just the gross levels of not just incompetence, but participation in this program that the FBI played a major role in this international child trafficking and extortion operation.
00:07:16.680They were involved in it because they had children coming to them in the 1990s and they ignored them.
00:07:21.040When they raided Epstein's property, they never raided all of his properties.
00:07:28.000There was multiple properties in France and in other countries that were never even looked into, that were never even investigated, that never had an FBI agent step to the premises.
00:07:37.840And we're supposed to believe that the same FBI agent, the same Southern District of New York, the same corrupted aspects of the DOJ that covered up everything from the very beginning of this are going to now finally tell us the truth here.
00:07:50.560So I'm a little, you know, as the young kids say, a little blackpilled on this scenario and situation, because when I went to Epstein's Island, when we raided Epstein's Island, I remember talking to everyone on the British Virgin Islands that were adjacent to it.
00:08:08.640And everyone knew, yeah, that's that's the island where children get taken to to be hurt.
00:08:15.600And I talked to air traffic controllers. I talked to boat captains. I talked to bus drivers.
00:08:21.580Everyone knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was an open secret for everyone.
00:08:25.680And you're telling me when we have on U.S. territory. Yes, it's the U.S. Virgin Islands.
00:08:31.740But on U.S. territory, so many children, we're talking about thousands.
00:08:35.500And this is this is the scale of thousands. People think, oh, yeah, it's just a few crazy people.
00:08:40.540The latest developments with Virginia Jew free aren't good for this case, by the way.
00:08:45.600It's not a good look for this entire situation, but that's another story in itself here.
00:08:49.860But when I went there, I found a lot of very weird sculptures, a lot of weird demonic sculptures, a huge, vast property.
00:08:58.220And I found what looked like a doorway to the underground.
00:09:03.940I found something and I and I wasn't equipped with a crowbar.
00:09:07.320It was like a last minute, last mission kind of deal, kind of situation.
00:09:12.380And it was definitely a very scary situation to be in since you're literally on the Intel agency island where they take children and do whatever they want to them.
00:09:24.760But the reason I decided to go is because I just knew the official version of events didn't make sense with how Epstein allegedly lost his life.
00:09:32.780And then after his alleged demise, there was someone that was flying a drone over the island and someone that looked exactly like Jeffrey Epstein was seen in this video from this drone footage after he allegedly died.
00:09:44.820So I'm like, OK, now I need to go. Now I need to investigate.
00:09:49.040And I had multiple plans. I had multiple ways of trying to do this.
00:09:53.460What ended up happening was it was like a last minute ditch effort.
00:09:56.680We just kind of just went when we weren't expecting even to go.
00:10:00.060And we just kind of went with it and videotaped. And that video right now is available on youtube.com forward slash we are change where you can see the full video in length of us going throughout that island and going on this crazy kind of adventure and going where the FBI was always too afraid to go because they were probably involved in this operation.
00:10:19.060I really have two obvious questions. At least we know that when they raided Epstein's palatial residence in Manhattan, by the way, I think it was the largest and most valuable single family home in Manhattan for a long time.
00:10:38.040We know that they removed multiple DVDs and hard drives from the safe on that property.
00:10:43.960Where are where are those materials now? Now, I can understand why they wouldn't be released because they're probably pornographic and worse.
00:10:52.100And we're not interested in exposing the identity of the victims, but we do have a right to know who was who was abusing children.
00:11:00.700And then secondarily, I still I still understand why Steve Bannon, between the time that Epstein was released from prison in Florida and the time he was charged with new federal charges, why Bannon visited him in New York?
00:11:13.780Why Bannon visited him in Paris, both reported by the New York Post, by the way, and why they made a documentary together, which has never seen the light of day?
00:11:23.520I cannot. I like to know the answer to that. I do think that you have what is here an overall cover up, mostly by Damian Williams, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.
00:11:37.500He handled the period surrounding Epstein's alleged suicide. I mean, I believe he's dead, but I don't believe he committed suicide.
00:11:48.860I know that numerous medical experts have said that all the evidence is contrary to that idea.
00:11:57.580But he also handled the plea bargain of Ghislaine Maxwell, who is essentially Epstein's pimp.
00:12:05.220How do you charge someone for conspiracy without charging any of the other conspirators?
00:12:29.420I do trust Pam Bondi and Kash Patel to get to the bottom of it, but we haven't been told a small fraction of this.
00:12:39.160If you go to my book, The Clinton's War on Women, published in 2015, I am the second major author in the United States to cover the Epstein question.
00:12:49.380I published the FAA manifest that included who was on his airplane.
00:12:55.860I published the contents of his little black book, which, by the way, everybody in his little telephone book doesn't mean that they did something wrong.
00:13:05.200Many people in there who I think did nothing wrong.
00:13:07.580To the extent that there is a quote unquote list, I don't think there is a list, but it is undeniable that after he was charged with a crime in Florida and the police chief of Palm Beach gave the state's attorney in Palm Beach County sufficient evidence to charge Epstein with child sex trafficking, statutory rape, and worse.
00:13:31.220And they charged him with one count of solicitation.
00:13:35.040That'd be like, Luke, you walk into a bar and trying to solicit a hooker.
00:13:42.140And then when the police chief complained, they bumped it up to solicitation of a minor.
00:13:46.640He went to the U.S. attorney who covers all of South Florida, Mr. Acosta, and Mr. Acosta conducted his own investigation.
00:13:57.760Whereupon, he then rubber stamped the slap on the wrist by the state, and he sealed the entire case, hoping that we would never know any of this.
00:14:06.340It is only because the Palm Beach Post went into court in a two year epic battle that we found out that Epstein got a 15 month sentence of which probably an 18 month sentence, which he only served 15 months.
00:14:21.380But unlike every other sex criminal convicted in Florida, he was allowed to serve it in the air conditioned Palm Beach County Jail, the new wing.
00:14:31.420And he was only required to be there from from 10 o'clock at night until six o'clock in the morning.
00:14:38.380Other than that, he was kind of free to go.
00:14:40.440Now, if it was not for a a crusading reporter named Julie Brown at the Miami Herald, we would still not know the truth about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:14:52.220Now, when Acosta was appointed the U.S. Secretary of Labor, I think it was Alexander Acosta, I believe.
00:15:01.620No one bothered to tell Donald Trump that he had been the federal prosecutor who gave Epstein a pass.
00:15:08.060And when he was asked in preparation for his confirmation hearings, what he would say if some senator asked him why he had let Epstein off easy, he said, well, I'm just going to tell the truth.
00:15:18.780I was approached by the CIA and they said he works for us and therefore you need to close this whole case down.
00:16:22.840And tell us a little bit more about it.
00:16:24.420Yeah, first of all, great analysis, Roger, connecting the dots here with that Epstein story, because it's so important to talk about in the midst of us still kind of waiting to get some legitimate justice for the children out there.
00:16:37.820Because these predators, they're still out there hurting children, and they're still out there rigging, you know, scenarios and financial markets and protesters against this Trump administration and everything that they're trying to do and accomplish here.
00:16:51.240Now, about these underwater bases, we have heard a lot from members of Congress, from members of the military.
00:16:58.540I've spent a lot of the times, you know, talking to a lot of these people, interviewing them on the record, off the record.
00:17:05.240I had a very fascinating conversation with a former Canadian minister of defense that really kind of provided me a perspective into the situation that is kind of jarring and kind of perplexing.
00:17:17.400Now, the first time I heard about this was from a book called Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper.
00:17:22.900He was a U.S. naval intelligence officer that, in his book, talked about these structures, these huge entities that were able to traverse land, air and water, but specifically water and air, in a way that defied the laws of physics.
00:17:42.660Now, is this kind of advanced military tech here, or is this, you know, proof of life of interdimensional beings or other creatures or other aliens that are amongst us?
00:17:54.200Well, if you talk to Tucker Carlson, he kind of describes this phenomenon as these interdimensional beings.
00:17:59.780But the important aspect of this is that when we were hearing reports of the drones over New Jersey, we were hearing of these drones going in and out of the water and then transforming, shape-shifting, changing shapes, very similarly to what we have been hearing with Behold a Pale Horse and William Cooper in his book.
00:18:19.000Now, we also have heard very similar reports as of late.
00:18:21.740I just did a video about this, which is, I think, important to watch here, but we heard reports of UAPs and UFOs off of Fort Lauderdale, off of St. Cloud.
00:18:35.420I forgot the exact name of the city here in Florida, and then Daytona was another one, where there are now multiple reports of things in the air that defied everything that we usually see up there.
00:18:52.580So there's now new reports of what's going on here.
00:18:55.400Do we know exactly what's going on here?
00:18:57.260I don't think we do, and I think it's left for interpretation.
00:19:10.940Some people say this is just parts of advanced U.S. military tech that we don't know about.
00:19:16.040We saw Donald Trump just recently talk about the kind of capabilities and weapon systems that the United States have that will blow people's minds that a lot of people can't even conceive of.
00:19:26.000Could this be something that he was hinting at here, or is this kind of proof of interdimensional beings or aliens and UFOs?
00:19:35.620But I think the only real thing that we could conclude here is that we still have a lot more answers than we do.
00:19:43.120We still have a lot more questions than we do answers.
00:19:45.260Luke, where can people follow you on social media?
00:19:49.020YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange is my main platform, but then I'm also on Instagram and Twitter on at LukeWeAreChange, and then I'm posting stuff.
00:19:59.000I'm doing a meetup here soon in Miami, and then we're also doing a range day for our members here in South Florida as well, which is going to be a lot of fun as well.
00:20:06.940So all of that details are on at LukeWeAreChange on Twitter.
00:20:18.760You chased people down to – and maybe you've been dumpster diving for your wardrobe.
00:20:23.640But now I get reports that you're looking very, very natty.
00:20:26.620Now I get reports that you're having custom suits made by the folks over at Taylor's on Tap, and people tell me you look like a million bucks.
00:20:33.580So I'm glad that you have figured out Stone's most important rule, look good, feel good.
00:20:39.680Ladies and gentlemen, the great Luke Rutkowski, thank you so much for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:20:45.240We're glad to have you, and for all of my listeners out there, until we meet again, God bless you, and Godspeed.