The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


Marc Fishman ｜ 09-24-25


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Summary

A case that should disturb every parent in New York, if not across the country. Mark Fishman, a Bronx father of four, has been sentenced to 45 days in jail. This comes nearly a decade after an incident in which police arrested him during a court-ordered, bimonthly supervised visitation with his children.


Transcript

00:00:00.400 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:00:07.480 But first, I want to talk to you about a case that should disturb every parent in New York, if not across the country.
00:00:16.580 Mark Fishman, a Bronx father of four, has been sentenced to 45 days in jail following a ruling in Westchester County, New York Supreme Court,
00:00:26.520 and after a contentious trial hearing.
00:00:30.120 Now, Mark Fishman is a gentleman who lives with traumatic brain injury, tinnitus-related hearing impairment,
00:00:38.880 cognitive occipital neuralgia, and post-concussion memory loss from multiple car accidents.
00:00:44.760 Mark Fishman says that the Westchester County Courts, the Westchester County New York District Attorney,
00:00:50.980 and New York State Attorney General Letitia James, are treating him unfairly.
00:00:57.420 His sentencing comes nearly a decade after an incident in which police arrested Mr. Fishman
00:01:03.420 during a court-ordered, bimonthly supervised visitation with his children on December 15, 2018,
00:01:10.740 a visit fully prepaid and supported by a 22-page visitation order granting him access to his autistic son from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
00:01:23.360 A court-approved supervisor and disability aide were both present,
00:01:27.460 and the supervisor had confirmed the visitation in writing earlier that very day.
00:01:33.200 Now, in withheld police video and audio, which was only obtained by Mr. Fishman through his federal lawsuit
00:01:41.980 against those who are oppressing him, the now terminated arresting officer in this case,
00:01:48.000 one Lane Schlesinger, is heard telling Mr. Fishman's disability aide that Mr. Fishman had no intent to commit any crime.
00:01:56.820 Nonetheless, Mark Fishman was arrested at 11.35 a.m. during his prepaid Super 5 visit with his son
00:02:05.700 on allegations tied to an unserved order of protection.
00:02:10.340 Neither the jury nor his defense team was ever shown the exculpatory evidence.
00:02:16.240 Then, on July 16, 2020, after years of legal battles,
00:02:19.820 a federal appeals court ordered the transcription as an ADA accommodation in his case,
00:02:26.660 yet Judge David Zuckerman has refused to grant a retrial,
00:02:31.440 despite knowing that Mr. Fishman could not fully participate in his own defense.
00:02:37.880 Joining us now is the father in question, Mark Fishman.
00:02:41.500 I know that you have to likely submit to incarceration here very shortly.
00:02:47.460 I'm glad that you could join us to tell this horrific story to our audience here in the Stone Zone.
00:02:52.860 Welcome into the zone.
00:02:55.260 Thank you, Roger.
00:02:56.280 Thank you for having me, and thank you for giving me the time to talk about a subject which is taboo,
00:03:03.060 disability discrimination, not accommodating, you know, those who have disabilities,
00:03:08.920 especially invisible disabilities, you know, like hearing impairment from tinnitus
00:03:13.220 or brain injury from a jamaic car accident, you know, or PTSD or other mental impairments.
00:03:21.600 You know, society marginalizes us, labels us, belittles us.
00:03:25.520 And, unfortunately, many judges have no empathy, no patience, don't accommodate us.
00:03:30.800 And, you know, we're forced to go to federal court and spend years on litigation
00:03:34.740 just to try to get the American with Disabilities Act and Rehabilitation Act enforced to protect many of us.
00:03:40.880 I saw you on the Sal Greco show on Rumble.
00:03:47.820 You were terrific, and it really moved me to talk about your case here on the show
00:03:52.380 and also to post information on my various social media platforms.
00:03:57.440 I really feel for you as a father.
00:04:01.260 This is a horrific tale.
00:04:02.980 But why has your alleged misdemeanor over a child custody visitation turned into a seven-plus-year legal battle,
00:04:11.380 which has to have cost you a fortune?
00:04:14.980 Well, Roger, you know, when David faces Goliath, you know, Goliath, which is the New York court system,
00:04:21.180 and the Westchester judges have enormous resources.
00:04:24.520 To answer your question and try to be as brief as possible, you know,
00:04:29.820 after I was convicted in a trial of attempting to violate an order of protection I never received
00:04:35.120 and actually violating an order of protection I never received for not going on a property,
00:04:39.840 I returned to court for the DA to argue that my kids should have a lifetime order of protection.
00:04:45.860 I wasn't charged or prosecuted with violating any of my kids, my four kids, Joanna, Jonah, Aiden, this guy.
00:04:56.260 Yet the DA, you know, tried not once, not twice, but over nine appearances, Roger,
00:05:03.900 the next year and a half to just say, okay, we got to get orders of protection.
00:05:07.500 A judge saying, I have no authority.
00:05:08.780 You didn't prosecute me and charge him for that.
00:05:10.280 And the DA then saying, you have to, and making me out to be someone I'm not, you know.
00:05:17.580 And then constantly, you know, wailing on false allegations, unfounded charges, you know,
00:05:23.220 things like, oh, you committed child abuse.
00:05:25.760 You know, that's the irony here.
00:05:27.700 I was accused of committing child abuse in 2014 after I had my injury, after I had surgery.
00:05:36.460 And it was so absurd, Roger, that someone like my ex-wife would go to a member of the government
00:05:42.840 and say, oh, my ex-husband attempted to strangle the kids when he picked them up in the gym.
00:05:49.180 Roger, any medical doctor can tell you that, you know, I have cubital tunnel syndrome.
00:05:54.280 I just had ulnar release.
00:05:55.760 That's nerve release in your arm.
00:05:57.880 You can't squeeze your fingers.
00:05:59.100 You can't hold a key.
00:06:00.060 How do you strangle anybody?
00:06:01.480 Obviously, the video evidence cleared me.
00:06:03.280 Picked up my kids at the gym.
00:06:04.380 They were roughhousing, they're two twins, they're four years old.
00:06:07.120 What's that do with me?
00:06:08.300 You know, and unfounded, like four and a half, five weeks later, you had a family court judge,
00:06:12.780 Michelle Schauer, says, oh, I believe you committed the abuse.
00:06:16.280 Oh, can we bring in, you know, Child Protective Services or ACS test fight?
00:06:19.820 No, I think you did it.
00:06:21.060 I don't care.
00:06:21.860 It doesn't matter.
00:06:23.420 You know, evidence doesn't matter in my quorum.
00:06:25.300 You're guilty.
00:06:26.360 Why am I guilty?
00:06:27.020 Because I sued you in federal court.
00:06:28.200 She denied me accommodations.
00:06:30.000 Yeah, that's what this is all about, Roger.
00:06:32.020 You know, and you asked.
00:06:34.540 So it's very simplistic.
00:06:36.720 Attorney General James, Attorney General Tisha James, defended Judge Schauer and her court
00:06:42.200 attorney, Brent D'Ambrosio, as well as Judge Alva Gordon, as well as judges Horowitz and
00:06:50.440 others, who all denied real-time transcription, denied my note taker, denied an aide to help
00:06:54.580 me take notes.
00:06:55.620 I can't take my own notes.
00:06:56.520 I have cubital syndrome.
00:06:57.340 I can't hold a pen.
00:06:58.660 Okay?
00:06:59.360 Denied in the courtroom.
00:06:59.880 They said, you didn't prove you were disabled.
00:07:02.040 No, my doctors did.
00:07:03.380 And the specialists, they did.
00:07:05.100 So how can Letitia James investigate the cop, Lane Slashier, who's charged with misconduct,
00:07:11.220 while she is representing the judges in my federal lawsuit, where the judges were ordered
00:07:15.040 to give the accommodation?
00:07:15.980 They refused.
00:07:16.960 You can't be impartial.
00:07:18.720 You know, you're not going to state the full investigation.
00:07:21.140 So it's no surprise, Roger, that in the law enforcement misconduct report on Lane Slashier,
00:07:24.640 the only cop in Westchester to be labeled pattern misconduct, then my case is intentionally
00:07:29.820 omitted, because then Letitia James would lose monetary damages, and worse, in my federal
00:07:34.980 case against the judges and the court staff that denied accommodations.
00:07:38.640 There's no fairness.
00:07:39.520 There's just cover-up and civil rights violations and no rights for those with disabilities.
00:07:43.640 Yeah, they're all in it together.
00:07:46.280 That is the problem in the nutshell.
00:07:48.360 They're all part of the same corrupted one-party system, and they're all covering each other's
00:07:54.480 misdeeds.
00:07:55.560 I want to focus for a minute on the arresting officer in your case, because this seems like
00:08:00.820 a real piece of work.
00:08:03.280 You're talking about an individual who had over 40 verified civilian complaints against
00:08:09.300 them.
00:08:09.560 This is Lane Schlesinger, I believe.
00:08:13.220 Why is this person still serving the public?
00:08:16.360 Why are they still in any position?
00:08:18.440 This is someone who should have been suspended long before they ended up railroading you.
00:08:26.880 Well, they didn't suspend or terminate them until Letitia James report came out, because
00:08:32.280 they wanted to try and win their federal lawsuit.
00:08:34.140 They didn't want to supply this in court order of discovery.
00:08:36.320 The cops were shocked that someone who was convicted for not committing a crime, for an
00:08:41.780 order of protection, where I wasn't given the third page, neither was the jury, which
00:08:44.880 says party not served.
00:08:46.120 The jury's just given an order of protection saying, oh, he was served.
00:08:48.440 I never got a copy of this.
00:08:49.820 So to answer your question, the New Rochelle mayor, okay, Noam Branson, purposely withheld
00:08:57.200 this along with their attorneys, Lumba, okay, and several of the other cohorts in New Rochelle
00:09:02.660 to deceive and mislead a judge during discovery that their police were like Cinderella and the
00:09:11.480 prince in some fairy tale when they pattern disability discriminating cops.
00:09:16.720 He was terminated in 2014.
00:09:21.680 About August 2014 was his last paycheck.
00:09:24.540 About three, four months, Roger, after the law enforcement report was given to him, not
00:09:28.200 given to the public until later on that year in December 14th.
00:09:32.120 So December 24th, December 2024, pardon me, December 2024, terminated in August 2024.
00:09:38.360 I myself have been the target of a weaponized judiciary.
00:09:44.340 I know that your legal expenses in a seven-year legal battle, these things are usually resolved
00:09:49.180 in six months, have to be enormous.
00:09:52.400 And I know that your supporters have set up a GoFundMe page.
00:09:56.400 How can people help you out in this epic struggle?
00:09:59.800 I really appreciate it.
00:10:00.820 Legal fees, transcript costs, you know, investigators and ADA expenses are huge.
00:10:06.400 They can go to New RochellePoliceAbuse.com.
00:10:09.720 Again, that's New RochellePoliceAbuse.com.
00:10:12.040 Go down to how they can help.
00:10:13.940 And if you're going to go fund me, make a donation.
00:10:15.700 It's very appreciative.
00:10:17.260 And, you know, that doesn't just help our fight.
00:10:20.360 It helps everyone else that late in the last year who spent 17 years, you know, on the
00:10:24.420 force, help reverse their convictions.
00:10:27.760 You know, that's the amazing thing here, Roger.
00:10:29.100 So there's no provision in this law enforcement misconduct law.
00:10:31.940 It's 33 dirty cops labeled.
00:10:34.320 33, by the same shame.
00:10:35.380 There's no requirement that any of the convictions that the cops participate in be reversed.
00:10:40.080 How could that be?
00:10:41.440 How could that be?
00:10:42.400 Our DA, DA Cachese, our previous DA, Miriam Rocha, and DA Scarpino, there's no obligation
00:10:48.760 that they have to accept the Attorney General for it.
00:10:50.360 They don't have to review.
00:10:51.700 They don't have to look at anything.
00:10:52.500 They've refused to comment in my case over years, since 2023, that even their videos
00:10:57.380 existed that they had to give on the Cleefs discovery law.
00:11:00.340 They don't want to because, again, you'd be taking down the Westchester DA.
00:11:03.860 Hey, we're talking about a 17-year cop and a supervisor.
00:11:08.160 Let's not forget about Officer Cocaine.
00:11:10.920 Officer Sean Cain caught on police's best video planting drugs on Ivan Harper.
00:11:16.920 Okay, in June 24, he's suspended.
00:11:20.920 He was a supervisor who signed my report.
00:11:23.100 He signed that the arrest was authenticated.
00:11:25.180 He signed that there were no police audio video.
00:11:27.300 He signed that it's unknown if a supervisor was present.
00:11:30.300 Yet on the police cameras, my supervisor, Ann Elliott, who's a Republican, the cop says
00:11:35.660 nine times, calls her supervisor in the police precinct.
00:11:37.760 But on his arrest report, he says unknown.
00:11:39.240 Well, if he put down that the supervisor was present, Roger, he couldn't do the arrest.
00:11:43.660 Because the only person who can cause arrest to be made during supervised visitation, which
00:11:48.700 is probation in New York State, okay, probation for going to see your own kid, right, is the
00:11:54.120 supervisor.
00:11:54.840 So, of course, they said, oh, unknown, she's a supervisor.
00:11:57.360 And why'd you call a supervisor, you know, nine times in two and a half hours?
00:12:00.920 These are the corrupt things.
00:12:02.080 The cops don't give us the audio and video.
00:12:04.040 The cops don't give disabled people the dismay reports.
00:12:07.300 They just want convictions.
00:12:09.680 The DAs just want convictions.
00:12:11.380 And they elevate, you know, the ADAs like Joyce Miller here, who is smiling with a smirk
00:12:16.020 during my sentencing.
00:12:17.420 Four and a half hours sentencing.
00:12:19.020 You get 45 days.
00:12:20.140 Four and a half hours?
00:12:21.700 What?
00:12:22.720 They describe all lies.
00:12:24.460 You know, no truth, no backup.
00:12:26.620 They go on and on and on.
00:12:27.760 Like you're saying, it's persecution.
00:12:28.800 This isn't prosecution.
00:12:29.540 It's personal.
00:12:30.280 It's personal.
00:12:30.860 Why?
00:12:31.320 Oh, who's the DA?
00:12:32.720 Judge Kachasey.
00:12:34.000 26-year judge in Westchester.
00:12:36.200 Did she have a police officer last year and Kane testify in a courtroom?
00:12:41.040 Absolutely.
00:12:41.840 Who's going to review all those convictions, Your Honor, that you're involved in?
00:12:44.440 Why aren't you accused?
00:12:45.520 It's all papers to remove them.
00:12:46.700 No, they don't remove them.
00:12:48.140 You know, they never do.
00:12:49.640 This is corruption-etized.
00:12:50.440 They never do.
00:12:51.220 We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back with Mark Fishman because
00:12:54.760 I want him to tell you one more time how you can help him in this epic struggle.
00:12:58.980 You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:13:00.200 I'm Roger Stone and we'll be right back.
00:13:02.580 Thank you.
00:13:32.580 Tonight, it's Roger Stone in The Zone and on the phone as we take your calls at 800-848-9222.
00:13:42.300 That's 800-848-9222.
00:13:45.700 You can also email us your questions at AskStone at StoneZone.com.
00:13:51.560 We're talking now to Mark Fishman.
00:13:55.160 Mark Fishman is a Bronx father of four.
00:13:58.580 He's just been sentenced recently to 45 days in jail after an outrageous cover-up by the
00:14:05.900 Westchester County District Attorney, Westchester County New York judges, and New York Attorney General Letitia James.
00:14:13.880 Mr. Fishman suffers from traumatic brain injury, tinnitus-related hearing impairment, cognitive
00:14:20.920 occipital neuralgia, and post-concussive memory loss.
00:14:24.320 He is not a well man, but he was denied the Americans with disability accommodations in his case.
00:14:32.260 And the cover-up here is really breathtaking.
00:14:35.640 I've had an opportunity to talk to Mark Fishman, and I want to give him one more opportunity because he's been locked in a seven-year legal battle because he's been wronged.
00:14:46.260 And I know how expensive that is.
00:14:49.260 So, Mark, tell folks one more time how they can support you in this epic fight.
00:14:54.580 They can go to our website, NewRochellePoliceAbuse.com.
00:14:58.120 Click on Help Out.
00:14:59.420 There's a GoFundMe page and make a donation.
00:15:01.460 It's really appreciated.
00:15:02.720 Also, you know, leave an email, comment, you know, fill out some of our change.org surveys.
00:15:07.640 I also encourage everyone who's been persecuted, who's outraged, to contact the new Commission on Prosecutorial Conduct and complain if they've been abused or wrongfully convicted by a DA or if their family member was.
00:15:21.620 That's cpc.ny.gov.
00:15:24.060 Again, cpc.ny.gov.
00:15:26.440 And if you've had police misconduct, you should contact the Attorney General's Office and the Law Enforcement Misconduct Unit, you know, established after the crime against Floyd, to stop pattern discrimination, pattern abuse.
00:15:36.840 Like, we're suffering with Lane's last year and Officer Sean Cocaine Cain in New Rochelle.
00:15:42.020 It's systematic.
00:15:43.440 You know, a lot of people aren't aware that these new avenues are available.
00:15:48.000 And, you know, we need the disability parts in family court.
00:15:51.620 You know, too many veterans and too many disabled people have no one to talk to in family court.
00:15:56.620 These judges are not trained to accommodate.
00:15:58.240 They're not trained to provide an auxiliary aid.
00:16:00.740 They're just trained to rule against one party who they don't like.
00:16:04.040 This isn't fairness.
00:16:05.040 This isn't, you know, a neutral arbitrator.
00:16:08.060 This is personal vendettas.
00:16:10.060 You know, and I'd be remiss, Roger, if I wouldn't say that.
00:16:13.480 They're killing us.
00:16:15.220 I have a friend by the name of Lizzie Harden Weinstein who died because Joyce Miller prosecuted her, okay, for being a mom, not being able to see her kids.
00:16:24.920 Okay, she had PTSD.
00:16:26.720 I have another friend, Julia Goldmarks.
00:16:28.540 They killed her.
00:16:29.740 You know, she couldn't see her kid five years.
00:16:31.920 Couldn't deal with it.
00:16:32.520 Then we have Catherine Kasanoff went to Switzerland to commit suicide, assisted suicide because she couldn't take not seeing her two kids.
00:16:39.860 All right, Mark, we have to leave it there.
00:16:41.500 I want to thank you for joining us in Stone Zone.
00:16:43.340 God bless you, my friend.
00:16:44.820 God bless you in your quest for justice.
00:16:47.040 Thank you for having us, Roger.
00:16:48.160 Really appreciate it.
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