Roger Stone returns to The Stone Zone to discuss the manufactured crisis surrounding the release of an audio recording of him at Mar-A-Lago, and why he thinks Judge Eileen Cannon is under the control of President Donald Trump. Stone is joined by his co-host Troy Smith of Slingshot News to discuss this and other political matters, including the Democratic Party's attempt to delegitimize the Supreme Court with an attempt to impeach Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and whether or not the left is really as bad as they claim. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, is a New York Times bestselling author, and is a longtime friend and advisor of President Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. He is a pop culture icon and has become a pop-culture icon. Roger Stone is a long-time friend and supporter of the President and has been a regular contributor to conservative media outlets such as The Daily Beast, The Weekly Standard, Rolling Stone, and The New Republic, among many other publications. He is also a frequent guest on conservative talk shows on conservative radio and radio stations across the country, including SiriusXM Radio. and the conservative radio network Radio Row, and has a regular presence on Fox News Radio and Sirius XM Radio in the early morning radio show on the weekends. The Stonezone with Roger Stone. is produced by Roger Stone and Troy Smith, Sr. . and is the host of the Slangshotline "The Stone Zone." . He can be found on social media: , and on Instapod the . His new book, is out now, , and his new podcast which is out on Podchaser in the new podcast, . Thanks for listening! Thank you for listening to the Stone Zone, Roger Stone Zone Subscribe and Retweet us your thoughts on this episode of The StoneZ Zone, and don t forget to leave us a review of the episode on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newest episode of the show, The Narcissistic Mindset Podcast! and other social media links below. Subscribe on iTunes to get exclusive shoutouts and subscribe to our new podcast! to our social media accounts! , Insta: .
00:01:53.480I must tell you, Troy, even I am shocked.
00:01:56.240But let's face it, when you are attacked simultaneously by Rolling Stone, the Daily Beast, Newsbreakers,
00:02:04.220the UK Daily Mail, Law and Crime, Newsweek, and now the New Republic, well, you must be over the target.
00:02:13.760The absurdity of this is really telling.
00:02:18.180Yes, at Mar-a-Lago, at a Catholic conference, I was approached by two women who illegally recorded me,
00:02:28.000and I said nothing to them that I haven't said publicly on this show and in speeches,
00:02:34.320which simply is that the Republicans need to use every legal and technical tool in order to ensure that the next general elections in 2024 are free, fair, honest, and transparent.
00:02:54.560Based on the readings of all the legal filings in the so-called documents case, I put forward an opinion that Judge Cannon was going to dismiss that case.
00:09:28.720But I excuse her because she's deranged.
00:09:31.700She has a very bad case of Trump derangement syndrome.
00:09:36.360Well, Roger, and I would add to that, you know, real quickly, that there is a there is a there's an effort here by the left to target the judiciary.
00:09:45.700And while we are sitting here, you know, it's it's all Linsky 101.
00:09:49.020Roger, they claim that you are doing exactly what they are doing.
00:09:52.640And we have the tape of Sonia Sotomayor, you know, saying that she goes into her office and cries after decisions that are bad for the Democrats.
00:10:01.380And we have, you know, several instances of I mean, just look at what this went through with Judge Wanmer Chan in New York, one of the most slanted, unbelievable trials in the history of this country.
00:10:13.300And you didn't see Lauren Windsor or anybody having any problem with Judge Wanmer Chan and you didn't see them making fake news about Wanmer Chan.
00:10:23.500Well, it's because Wanmer Chan does exactly what they want him to do.
00:10:27.240And I think that's you know, that is the story here, Roger.
00:10:30.060We have a Democrat Party that is running a pressure campaign, an illegal pressure campaign with doxing and illegal recordings to try to pressure the judiciary into doing what they want politically.
00:10:42.520I don't think there's ever been a more brown shirt tactic that I've seen in this country against the judiciary as a whole, especially that the Democrat Party is, you know, operating.
00:10:52.060They're paying these people like Lauren Windsor.
00:10:53.860They're creating these narratives with fake news and then they're using all of the outlets that need money.
00:11:00.400And I find this interesting, too, Roger.
00:11:02.220Isn't it interesting that all these outlets are failing and yet they have the same message?
00:11:06.440You know what that tells me is somebody who does this for a living.
00:11:09.140It tells me that those people needed money and they got it from somebody and that somebody is coordinating stories between all of them to push a certain narrative.
00:11:18.660And that's where we're at with the mockingbird media, the mainstream media that wants to put out fake news constantly.
00:11:25.080It's coming from a source and that source is most likely the people that's paying them.
00:11:28.620There needs to be that we know what's coming from Windsor, but there's probably a larger operation here, Roger, to create false narratives heading into the 2024 election.
00:11:38.360And it looks like election interference to me.
00:11:43.760What we see here is the warmup for what would be an outraged attack on Judge Cannon in the event that, based on the hearings today and I believe on Monday, she should rule that the appointment of Jack Smith is illegal because there is no law creating his position.
00:12:04.660He was never approved by the U.S. Senate, never confirmed.
00:12:08.760The talking heads at MSNBC scoff at this case, but they're wrong.
00:12:18.660When General Flynn, Paul Manafort and I all went before a judge appointed by Barack Obama and the Russian collusion hoax was born in Barack Obama's office with Joe Biden, among others, present,
00:12:35.180nobody complained that the judge sitting on our case was appointed by Obama, yet they get, by the luck of the wheel, an honest judge in Miami or in the Miami district who they can't control, who isn't a de facto member of the prosecution, and they go out of their minds.
00:13:09.540She was a respected prosecutor, and she's been following the law meticulously in this case.
00:13:16.180Jack Smith wanted to try the president in secret.
00:13:18.800If this case were being tried in D.C., that's how they would have done it.
00:13:24.120All of it would have remained redacted.
00:13:25.940We would never even know what this case was about in terms of the documents.
00:13:30.440Just the practice of bringing witnesses to a grand jury in D.C.
00:13:36.360and then taking a recording of that and playing it for a grand jury in Florida, where the grand jurors have no opportunity to ask questions of those who are testifying,
00:13:46.480I can't find a lawyer who's ever heard of that previously in their lives.
00:13:51.600So they are the ones operating outside the Constitution.
00:13:55.620They're the ones operating outside the law.
00:13:59.300It's interesting to see this giant drumbeat attacks on Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.
00:14:05.680We learned last week that Judge Katenji Brown took in millions of dollars when she was a judge, but she failed to report that as required by law.
00:14:15.340Well, where is the U.N. cry from the left for her removal from the Supreme Court?
00:14:23.320Well, and Roger, let's just let's be honest about Justice Katenji Brown.
00:14:27.980As far as I know, you know, this was a very interesting circumstance by which she got appointed to the court in the first place, because she was actually confirmed by the Senate before there was a vacancy on the Supreme Court.
00:14:40.300And I've spoken to some people who raised some serious questions about the legitimacy of her position on the court in the first place, considering that she was confirmed before there was a vacancy.
00:14:50.500Now, if you can confirm Supreme Court justices before there's a vacancy, then I would urge the Republican Party next time that they get control of the Senate, they should just appoint five or six Supreme Court justices.
00:15:03.740Hell, why not start appointing people who are just in law school now or maybe even people out of the womb, considering that there seems to be no limitation on when you can actually confirm a Supreme Court justice?
00:15:14.600It's my opinion that there has to be a vacancy in order to place somebody on a court.
00:15:19.900You can't just say, oh, well, there's going to be a vacancy, but we're going to appoint them now so that they're ready for that.
00:15:26.740That's kind of, to me, an interesting circumstance, Roger, that I don't think I've ever seen.
00:15:30.740And I've looked through, you know, a lot of documentation that says that may never have occurred in the history of the Supreme Court.
00:15:36.580So as usual, the left gets to play by whatever rules they want.
00:15:40.340The left gets to do whatever they want, break whatever procedural norm they want, break any law they want, illegally record you, put false narratives out there.
00:15:49.280And I wanted to ask you about this, Roger, because you've seen this before.
00:15:53.040When you had, when you were falsely persecuted by the Mueller investigation, one of the main claims that was false, that was put out by CNN and others,
00:16:02.580is that the Mueller team concluded that Stone colluded with Russia, and they have used that now, even though it's been debunked,
00:16:10.800even though you were never charged with anything concerning Russia or coordinating with any Russians of any kind,
00:16:17.020they take that narrative and say, well, Roger Stone works with Russia.
00:16:20.220They're going to do the same exact thing here, aren't they?
00:16:22.720When it comes to Judge Eileen Cannon, they're going to say, oh, she knows Roger Stone,
00:16:26.740even though that's completely concocted false narrative.
00:17:02.540Now, I think Judge Cannon is a very brave woman and a very qualified jurist who has been following the law meticulously.
00:17:10.580But anything I say about the case is really based on my following the excellent reporting of Julie Kelly and reading on my own most of the filings in the case.
00:17:22.140The idea that I have any inside knowledge is, of course, false and an absurdity.
00:17:28.600This is a good segue into the next thing I want to talk about, Troy, which is RFK.
00:17:34.220One of the biggest problems that I have with RFK, this was pointed out to me by Mike Adams, the health ranger, is can you imagine what his Supreme Court nominees would look like?
00:17:45.720He is a radical progressive on most issues, but particularly on the issue of life.
00:17:52.180Can you imagine what kind of leftists he would put on the court?
00:18:19.380I think a vote for Robert Kennedy is a vote for Joe Biden.
00:18:23.820It's hard to make a blanket statement across the entire country.
00:18:27.160If you look at the swing states, in the majority of the swing states, he is robbing votes from Donald Trump with no ability to win himself.
00:18:44.000But he never talks about his position in favor of abortion on demand or his radical climate change position, in which he thinks those who disagree with climate change should be arrested.
00:19:08.820But as I look at polling, that is my overall impression.
00:19:12.560If you saw Robert Kennedy Jr. face to face, what would you say to him?
00:19:16.940I guess I would ask him why he chose a globalist whose wealth comes entirely from Internet censorship and information manipulation on the Internet as his running mate.
00:19:29.860I mean, it's amazing how Nicole Shanahan went overnight from being a radical progressive who funded the defund the police movement in California to suddenly whining about Internet censorship, to which I say, speak to your ex-husband from whom you derive all of your wealth in a divorce.
00:19:49.240Maybe you should talk to him about that problem.
00:19:51.020So the Democrats have been trying to do a lot of things, as we have seen.
00:19:55.640But what do you think they're going to pull during the 11th hour of the election?
00:19:59.380Well, I mean, these people are capable of starting a war.
00:20:02.760Again, Antony Blinken, who's as bad at guitar playing as he is at statesmanship, has already said that in September they intend to force NATO to accept Ukraine.
00:20:14.120That's a violation of the Budapest Memorandum, which we signed.
00:20:20.020It's a violation of the Minsk Accords.
00:20:22.140It's a violation of two different bilateral agreements that we have signed with the Russians.
00:20:39.400In all honesty, I also I pray for the safety of President Trump.
00:20:43.440I wrote a New York Times bestselling book on the assassination of President John Kennedy.
00:20:49.560I sadly don't put it beyond those in power who seek to hold power and to fear who fear prosecution for their previous crimes to do virtually anything to remain in power.
00:21:02.580I think it was Benny Thompson, the congressman, who proposed legislation to pull Trump's secret service, presumably if he were to be put in jail for whatever reason.
00:21:18.420First of all, I'm having been through the D.C. judicial meat grinder myself and finding out the hard way that the Constitution doesn't matter, the facts don't matter, the rules don't matter, the evidence doesn't matter.
00:21:32.220However, I'm very apprehensive about the president's sentencing on July 11th.
00:21:39.900The the legislation by Congressman Thompson is mean spirited and makes it very clear that they would be very happy if Donald Trump were to die.
00:21:50.000Yet if we said something like that about Joe Biden, who candidly, I only wish the best, he should retire to his golden years.
00:21:58.000So I'm I thought that that was disgusting, but I thought it was also naked in terms of the purpose.
00:22:06.140Do you think Joe Biden is going to drop out of the twenty twenty four election?
00:22:08.820Well, if you went to the Turning Point event in Palm Beach, which was a great, great event, I predicted in my remarks that shortly before the convention, the Democrats would recognize that Joe Biden is just not capable of getting through a another campaign.
00:22:24.900If anything, things are worse now than they were then.
00:22:38.720So I think the chances are greater than they have ever been before that Joe Biden will be replaced, that shortly before the convention, he will announce his decision not to resign, but to not run again.
00:22:51.260He will throw it open to the convention.
00:22:53.920And I still believe that the convention will draft Michelle Obama.
00:22:58.380Now, I haven't said Michelle Obama is running for president or wants to run for president.
00:23:03.040But I think the Democrats may persuade her that she could be their last best chance to stop Donald Trump's return to the White House.
00:23:12.220So I'll stick by my prediction and we'll see.
00:23:15.360What do you think getting justice for what the Democrats have done to Trump, what do you think that should look like?
00:23:21.180Should we start looking into why Nancy Pelosi is so good at stock trading?
00:23:25.680I mean, we need to have equal protection under the law.
00:23:28.800So this whole Democrat media cabal revenge thing is, no, as someone who was convicted of lying to Congress when there was nothing to lie about, when there was no underlying crime that would motivate me to lie,
00:23:44.360I look at Hillary Clinton who lied to Congress, James Comey who lied to Congress, John Brennan who lied to Congress, Andrew McCabe who lied to Congress.
00:23:53.040And they lied to Congress regarding material matters, important matters, again, the two-tiered justice system.
00:23:59.420Why should Steve Banning go to prison for denying a congressional subpoena, but it's perfectly all right when Merrick Garland does it?
00:24:09.640So, no, we're not looking for revenge.
00:24:11.880What we're looking for is equal protection under the law.
00:24:14.360And those who have broken the law, those who engaged in treasonous activities, such as the Russian collusion hoax, yes, I do think that they should be prosecuted.
00:24:37.700Many thanks to Charlie Kirk and the great people at Turning Point USA.
00:24:41.440Troy, it's very, very heartening to see, I don't know, 4,000 young conservatives, just under three, maybe three and a half, 3,500, maybe 4,000 young conservatives gathering in one place.
00:24:56.540It really gives you great hope for the future of the country.
00:25:03.440It's interesting to me a story in Politico that says Robert F. Kennedy's campaign is struggling with fundraising.
00:25:11.960This doesn't make much sense to me, and here's why.
00:25:15.640Under the federal election law, an individual is limited in how much they can give his presidential campaign.
00:25:23.580They are unlimited in how much they can give a PAC supporting his candidacy.
00:25:28.260And the PACs supporting RFK have, quite legally, raised millions and millions of dollars.
00:25:35.500There's only two people who, by law, can give without limitation to his presidential campaign, or I should say to the joint campaign of Kennedy and Shanahan.
00:25:47.520That would be Robert Kennedy, who's not a wealthy man, and Nicole Shanahan, who is quite wealthy.
00:25:54.820Why she has not written a check to the campaign is a bit of a mystery.
00:26:02.180But I also think that it's kind of amusing to see her online complaining about Internet censorship and information manipulation
00:26:12.800when it is her ex-husband, who was one of the founders and owners of Google, who is the probably number one perp when it comes to information manipulation and online censorship.
00:26:30.720In fact, every penny she has to her name is derived from those activities, and she got them when she divorced her husband.
00:26:40.560So if she's really concerned about Internet censorship and the manipulation of information on the Internet,
00:26:48.740perhaps she should have a word with her ex-husband.
00:26:54.820Roger, I mean, this is not just some website that nobody's ever heard of.
00:26:58.640I mean, Google is the main manipulator of all of these things.
00:27:02.060And the idea that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would go ahead and pick somebody of this kind.
00:27:07.580You know, I've heard some people portray this, I think, falsely as Robert F. Kennedy picking someone to his left.
00:27:14.920And I don't think that that's the case at all.
00:27:16.980I think that there is a misrepresentation of who Robert F. Kennedy is.
00:27:21.880I mean, Roger, all we have to do is look at the areas in which RFK has bragged about conducting his lawsuits in support of energy.
00:27:31.720And what we find are some of the most expensive states to buy gasoline, the most expensive states to turn on your air conditioning,
00:27:39.400the most expensive states to get your water and electricity just in general.
00:27:44.180The cost of energy in the places where RFK Jr. has had his way illegally are the worst in the country.
00:27:52.580And so there is a false idea out there, I think, because of his stance,
00:27:57.580particularly in regards to the COVID-19 vaccine and on Ukraine and the southern border,
00:28:03.620that Kennedy is some kind of right winger, when in actuality, he's a left winger.
00:28:09.520And I believe it's not Shanahan who's to his left.
00:28:12.040I think they are pretty much aligned on these things.
00:28:15.340And it's an indictment of where he is politically.
00:28:20.540And I think you look across this country, Roger, I think most Americans do, and they say,
00:28:24.600OK, the red states, you know, like Florida, it's a place where millions of people are moving.
00:28:29.680Texas, it's a place where millions of people are moving.
00:28:33.000Any red state, you know, it seems to have more people coming in than leaving.
00:28:36.960When you see states like New York, California, and other places in the Northeast, New Jersey,
00:28:43.220any of these places, there are people fleeing by the millions.
00:28:46.720And it's not because of the geography.
00:29:50.200If Kennedy carried a state and therefore denied or a couple states and denied either Trump or Biden or whoever the Democratic nominee ends up being, the 270 electoral votes it takes to become president, well, then the decision goes to the House.
00:30:11.020But it's not one member, it's one vote, it's one state, one vote.
00:30:16.860So what you would do is go state by state.
00:30:20.820If a majority of those elected to Congress in a given state were Republicans, then presumably that vote would be cast for Trump.
00:30:30.660If a majority of the members from a given state were Democrats, then that vote would be cast for Biden.
00:30:38.900I don't think that vote, I don't think that vote, unless I see a state where Robert Kennedy can actually win.
00:30:46.680And even then, one state would not do it.
00:30:55.640It's becoming more and more obvious here that Robert Kennedy is a spoiler.
00:31:00.980Look, I admire his position on health freedom, but he doesn't talk about his radical position on the, you know, the Green New Deal.
00:31:11.900He doesn't talk about the fact that he wanted at one time to jail anybody who didn't agree with his climate change views, which are most radical.
00:31:22.140And, of course, he really does support abortion on demand.
00:31:36.280Let me do one thing, which we have to do, just for economic reasons.
00:31:40.780Folks, if you are interested in history and you're interested in politics, power politics, let me recommend to you my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
00:31:58.680I took this book to six different publishers, and nobody wanted to publish it.
00:32:04.080Finally, the folks at Skyhorse did so, and it immediately became a New York Times bestseller.
00:32:09.480In this book, I use eyewitness evidence, fingerprint evidence, and deep Texas politics to make the case that John F. Kennedy was the victim of a plot that included the Central Intelligence Agency, the FBI and the cover-up, organized crime, the Secret Service, big Texas oil, and, of course, banking interests.
00:32:33.320But the entire thing was being run by, yes, Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:32:39.840This book will shock you, and you can get your signed copy of it by going to themanwhokilledkennedy.com.
00:32:53.100And you could go to Amazon or Barnes & Noble or some other multinational corporation that hates your guts.
00:33:02.480But if you go to themanwhokilledkennedy.com, you can get a signed copy.
00:33:08.220If you choose to buy it elsewhere, that is, of course, your right, but I urge you to get the paperback version because the hardcover version does not have the three extra chapters that I wrote before the paperback version was published.
00:33:23.480So, folks, this makes a great gift for anyone interested in history or politics or those fascinated by the questions that remain.
00:33:31.980Let me recommend The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
00:34:35.080How do you reassure them if that is the reason for their questioning that the former president will not return, that his political movement, which is still very strong, will not once again take power in the United States?
00:34:56.560Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by if we if he does run, making sure he under legitimate efforts of our Constitution does not become the next president again.
00:35:13.940There you have it, folks, that's the admission that they would engage in lawfare.
00:35:22.360Within nine days of that, Merrick Garland decides to appoint a special counsel, as I understand it.
00:35:33.120Look, the Democrats have nothing to run on.
00:35:36.820They have no foreign policy or domestic policy achievement other than the destruction of the economy.
00:35:44.860The idea that the economy is strong or that these cooked inflation numbers or these cooked unemployment numbers demonstrate some great American resurgence is just nonsensical.
00:36:01.340So the Democrats campaign is a 100 percent negative campaign.
00:36:08.120Yes, unjustly convicted in a rigged trial.
00:36:11.360No, Trump is responsible for January 6th.
00:36:15.920No, I would argue that Nancy Pelosi and the Biden administration are responsible for January 6th.
00:36:23.860I wish Speaker Johnson would have the cojones to appoint a committee to investigate the January 6th committee, where we know that the members of the committee sober in perjury, particularly in the case of myself and General Flynn.
00:37:12.040Remember when I predicted this, they're going to try to scare old people about Social Security.
00:37:18.080Donald Trump has made it very clear that he opposes and would veto any change whatsoever in the current Social Security laws, and he opposes any cuts in Social Security funding.
00:37:31.900But the Democrats will seize on a small group of Republicans in the House who have suggested that the age before one can receive Social Security benefits be extended and that means testing be employed.
00:37:49.320In other words, they would examine whether a senior has some additional income outside of their Social Security benefits.
00:37:56.820And if they did, well, then their Social Security benefits would be cut.
00:38:00.980That is, let me point out, not Donald Trump's position.
00:38:04.520And he said that he would oppose that.
00:38:09.420So what you will see from Biden is a campaign of distortion, hate-mongering, and fear, all the things that they falsely accuse us of.
00:38:19.640I think we'll win in the end because Donald Trump will run on a record, unprecedented, really, of peace and prosperity, expanded economic growth and opportunity, and a lessening of tensions in the world.
00:38:38.060Well, Roger, speaking of things getting worse around the world, there was huge news yesterday that the mainstream press really avoided.
00:38:47.220And I understand, you know, the press has an aversion to covering things on the world that may be negative, especially when we know who controls the news around this country.
00:38:56.560But North Korea and Russia made a historic agreement just a few days ago, and Russian President Vladimir Putin actually traveled to North Korea to make this historic agreement.
00:39:11.040In that agreement, Roger, it's a blatant attack on South Korea.
00:39:15.720And Putin is saying, and he says, we actually have the clip to prove it, he says that if South Korea is going to send military aid to Ukraine, then he and Russia are going to send advanced long-range missiles to North Korea, and that he will make South Korea regret sending aid to Ukraine.
00:39:36.780I think this speaks to the chaos around the world that's being sown by the lack of leadership shown by the Biden administration.
00:39:43.560Every turn, Roger, BRICS, which is made up of Brazil, Russia, India, and China, as well as South Africa, these countries are aligning not only to protect themselves, but to expand as well.
00:39:58.840And there are new agreements being formed between China and Thailand, between Vietnam and Russia, between Thailand and Russia.
00:40:08.560The world is basically devolving into a Chinese-controlled hellscape under President Joe Biden.
00:40:19.160We can roll those of Vladimir Putin in Russia and get Roger's thoughts on the crumbling of the United States' world position under President Joe Biden.
00:41:26.980It's interesting to me that the media has used the cover of all of the controversy surrounding Trump to really downplay a number of developments around the world that are extremely troubling.
00:41:39.340For example, the Biden administration approving the use of U.S. missiles to attack targets inside Russia.
00:41:48.080That, in turn, I think is what caused the Russians to move nuclear submarines that I believe are armed with long-range missiles into the Gulf of Mexico, literally miles off the shore of Florida.
00:42:03.980And then, as you point out, this new agreement with North Korea, which I think Donald Trump demonstrated, is completely unnecessary had we adhered to the policies of Donald Trump.
00:42:20.540Well, it's interesting that when Trump became president, both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton told him that his single greatest challenge, the single greatest threat, was the leader of North Korea and the North Koreans.
00:42:37.020And, of course, Trump said, well, what are they saying?
00:42:39.840And he was told, well, we don't know what they're saying.
00:42:53.920You want to have a better relationship with any country that possesses thermonuclear weapons, which can destroy the entire country.
00:43:02.740That is not the policy of this administration.
00:43:06.060So I think we're really moving into a very, very dangerous phase here, where we inch closer and closer to World War III.
00:43:18.240But the American people, to a great extent, I think, are unaware of it because they're too focused on the ongoing persecution of Donald Trump and the other events surrounding that.
00:43:32.540That news this morning that after the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected an emergency filing by Steve Bannon to avoid incarceration pending the appeal of his case, his lawyer, his new lawyer, appealed that to the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:43:55.580Again, it's perfectly all right for you to ignore a subpoena from the U.S. House if you're Merrick Garland or if you were Eric Holder in the Fast and Furious scandal.
00:44:09.160But it's not okay if you're Steve Bannon or Peter Navarro.
00:44:14.320Now, there are major differences in the cases of Bannon and Navarro.
00:44:19.660Specifically, President Trump, specifically by letter, invoked executive privilege over Bannon's testimony.
00:44:27.720And therefore, on the advice of counsel, he decided not to testify.
00:44:33.200Those are two very strong defenses, but defenses that were wiped away at trial, wiped away on appeal.
00:44:41.100And now, hopefully, the Supreme Court will step in.
00:44:49.120But despite my past differences with Steve Bannon, at this point, I recognize that we're on the same side.
00:44:55.960And I'm praying for the success of this last-minute appeal because they've already made it clear that they intend to send Steve Bannon to a hellhole someplace where I doubt that he will be safe.
00:45:09.760So, yes, I am praying for a just result here.
00:45:14.380And as I said at the Turning Point conference, I am praying for justice in Steve Bannon's case.
00:45:21.140Well, Roger, in the case of Steve Bannon, you know, I think it's clear why he's being—especially with this case, this particular case, talking about the January 6th committee.
00:45:32.820He's obviously being targeted politically.
00:45:35.720And, you know, just an interesting note.
00:45:38.080I noticed when Hunter Biden was going to testify, he had conditions onto how he was going to testify.
00:45:45.580And we just recently saw a similar thing where Jen Psaki has agreed to testify before the House concerning the Afghanistan withdrawal and her profiting off of it with her book.
00:45:55.600But only, Roger, if the White House allows her to do it.
00:45:59.980Now, we don't actually have an official response from the White House on that.
00:46:03.900But I think you can guess what they're going to say.
00:46:06.740And they're going to say, no, we don't want her to testify.
00:46:09.480But isn't it interesting, as somebody who complied with your subpoena, who went and asserted your Fifth Amendment rights, isn't it interesting how the law is applied completely differently?
00:46:20.920I mean, we're talking about the exact same charge.
00:46:23.520The law is applied so differently, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.
00:46:27.480The Democrats seem to be able to do exactly whatever they want.
00:46:31.120No, in fact, the Psaki case is almost identical to the Bannon case.
00:46:35.500So, in other words, Joe Biden is asserting executive privilege over a former employee.
00:46:41.760She did not write this book during the time that she was in government service.
00:46:46.800She wrote it afterwards, in the same way President Trump has asserted executive privilege over the potential testimony of Steve Bannon.
00:46:56.400If it's legal for Jen Psaki, why would it not be legal for Steve Bannon?
00:47:02.440It's just more of the two-tiered justice system.
00:47:06.060If it weren't for a double standard, let's face it, the Democrats would have no standards at all.
00:47:11.320Well, and I think that's pretty clear.
00:47:14.320You know, I wanted to get your thoughts on another clip that we have here, Roger, because we just, we are, there's so much news going on and we have so much that comes up so quick.
00:47:22.840I think it was just yesterday we were talking about the first presidential debate was announced.
00:47:27.620And we have a clip that we're going to roll here in just a second of President Joe Biden arriving at Camp David.
00:47:35.840Now, Biden announced that he's going to be spending the next week, seven days, he arrived yesterday, until the 27th at Camp David, preparing for this debate.
00:47:46.080Now, in the time of that debate, Prep, Roger, there's not going to be any White House press briefings.
00:47:51.340There's not going to be any activity at the White House, it appears.
00:47:54.360And the best that I can see, Kamala Harris is on some kind of odd nationwide tour where she was talking to Chrissy Teigen yesterday about abortion rights.
00:48:05.180And today she was talking to some union that was like, you know, people can check out the clip on Slingshot.news,
00:48:11.420a woman's clapping and chanting union and all these weird Democrat stories.
00:48:16.540But Biden was seen yesterday kind of wandering around off of the plane to Camp David, where he's going to spend the next week doing debate prep.
00:48:26.040Want to roll that clip, get your thoughts on that upcoming presidential debate and why President Biden needs an entire seven days,
00:48:33.200not at the White House, not being the president, to prepare for this debate.
00:48:37.060Let's roll that and get Roger's thoughts.
00:50:55.880Well, and, you know, there is a weird fixation on the golf aspect of this, too, Roger, because I think it infuriates the left because they try to make Trump out.
00:51:05.040Oh, and you see the way that they portray him.
00:51:07.480They portray him as this extremely overweight guy, which is just not really the case.
00:51:11.580I mean, he's not he's not rail thin, but the guy is pretty athletic.
00:51:15.400And you see that anytime he goes out on the golf course, he's and I would encourage anybody.
00:51:19.440You can look up clips of Trump playing golf and you'll be surprised to see how good he actually is.
00:51:23.640And I've heard even professional golfers, Roger, remark during interviews and things like that.
00:51:28.900They're surprised how good Trump is at golf.
00:51:31.640And, you know, I'm not up here to be some, you know, advocate for Trump golfing.
00:51:37.060But the fact that they can't even acknowledge basic facts about the man like that, you know, I think it speaks to the the the general level of TDS that's kind of gone out around the country.
00:51:47.840And look, I think just as a writer, I encounter this all the time.
00:51:52.200There is a there is a definite situation where you will call Trump former president.
00:51:58.060And that that will be you will call him the former president, basically, when you're talking about him and Joe Biden in the same case, because it just it looks better.
00:52:07.340You know, it's kind of it's kind of weird for the reader to say, oh, President Trump, President Biden.
00:52:12.520And, you know, I understand they know which one is president, but just as a writer, that's something that you do.
00:52:17.780But in the case when you're writing about him alone, it's perfectly acceptable to say President Trump.
00:52:23.360And yet I dare anybody out there to go into any of the millions of stories that have been written about President Trump since he left office in 2021.
00:52:33.140And you will see former president, former president, even when it doesn't really even fit, even when it doesn't really make sense.
00:52:39.420And I think it speaks to how badly they want to say, oh, he was never president.
00:52:44.280He was an illegitimate president. And going back to Lauren Windsor, you know, Roger, we doing an investigation into her, I saw that she had been paid personally about $70,000 by Tom Steyer.
00:52:55.880And one of the efforts that ended up paying her was a thing called Impeach Now.
00:53:00.240And it was an entire effort led by Tom Steyer and the Democrats in 2020 to impeach President Trump.
00:53:07.000So the entire time, whether it was through the Russian collusion hoax, whether it was through the call to the Ukraine where they claimed he did something, it was a perfect phone call, or the one to Georgia where there's nothing wrong with that phone call either.
00:53:22.220They want to impeach him over that. They spent four years kicking and screaming.
00:53:26.920And now I feel like we're in a similar position, Roger, because they're looking at Joe Biden.
00:53:31.240They're saying, hey, there's no way that this guy is going to make it to the debate stage and put together a good presentation for the American people.
00:53:40.960And that's my question to you, Roger. This debate, we brought this up at the time it was announced.
00:53:46.080It's eerily soon. It's eerily early in the election cycle.
00:53:50.300And I have to wonder, do you think that this debate is really a test for President Joe Biden to see, OK, if we put him up with Trump, can he even, you know, handle himself?
00:54:01.780And if he can't, maybe they move to replace him.
00:54:04.580I know you've predicted they would replace him, but you think that this is kind of like a trial run for them?
00:54:09.760Well, Troy, I mean, to be candid, I think the stakes are very high here for both Biden and Trump.
00:54:15.180Well, the expectation level for President Trump is exceedingly high, and the media seeks to build it in the hopes that perhaps he'll make a mistake.
00:54:26.760The expectation level for Joe Biden is exceedingly low.
00:54:31.740So if he doesn't pull down his pants on stage, well, then they're going to say that he won.
00:54:36.960This could very well be part of the inter-Democratic Party plan to remove him and remove him early enough so that the damage to the party's chances are not severely hurt.
00:54:52.160People are going to be tuned in to see whether he can be even remotely coherent.
00:54:58.100It's hard for me to believe that we're having a debate even before either one of these candidates is legally the nominee of their parties.
00:55:08.340Now, it's fair to say today that both of them are the presumptive nominees, but that's not quite the same thing.
00:55:16.580So this is great, great political theater.
00:56:09.400And I just I look at the way that the schedule is set up.
00:56:12.400I say this is a perfect opportunity for them to either ditch Biden, have him ride off into the sunset with some kind of medical situation.
00:56:20.880Or maybe they use the Hunter Biden thing one one way or the other, Roger.
00:56:24.560I think that this and the stats prove it, by the way.
00:56:27.980The first presidential debate, whether it was Reagan, Carter, Trump, any of the any of the debates, the first one is always the one that's watched the most.
00:56:36.280So I would look for underhanded tactics by the Democrats to use Biden as kind of a battering ram to go after Trump, then pull the bait and switch and remove him before the next debate, which will be, I believe, in September.
00:56:47.480OK, well, Troy, I'm afraid we're just about out of time before we leave.
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