No Drone Surveillance？ Shocking Secret Service Failures In Trump Assassination Attempt
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A new report from the Senate Select Committee on the July assassination attempt on President Trump is released, and former Secret Service Agent and Former DHS Senior Advisor Charles Marino joins the show to discuss it. Plus, a look at why President Trump should not have been allowed to speak at the United Nation's General Assembly, and why the Iranian President should have been given the same access to the podium as the President of the United States. Also, a new report has been released regarding the July 13th attempt on Trump s life by an alleged assassin, Ryan Routh, who has been charged in the West Palm Beach, Florida attempt on the president s life. And, the latest on the Iran nuclear deal with the U.N. and the protests outside the five-star hotel where the Iranian president was staying at last night. Join the Stone Zone as Roger Stone and Troy Smith discuss all that and much more on this morning's episode of The Stone Zone with Roger Stone! Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author and is a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and has lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and lectured at Oxford and Oxford University. Roger Stone is a pop culture icon and has been described as a "pop culture icon." and has become a "Pop culture icon". in the eyes of the American public. . In addition to his four plus decades in the political and cultural media, Roger Stone also has been a regular contributor on conservative media outlets, and a regular on conservative talk shows, and radio host, and is one of the most influential men in the world. and a frequent guest on conservative radio hosts, including Rush Limbaugh, and hosts of the late Jemele Hill, and the BBC's Good Morning America. His latest book is out now out in paperback, The Weekly Standard, The Dark Side of New York Magazine, The Daily Mail, and The Hill Street Journal, The New York Sun, The Hollywood Reporter, The Hill, The Atlantic, and many other publications, including the New York Post, The Huffington Post, and so much more. ...and much more! - click here to see the full list of Roger Stone s latest book, The Stonezone and to learn more about him on The Stonez Zone.
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The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
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Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
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He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
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As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
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and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
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Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
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Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
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Well, you will recall that back in 2023, when there was a Nashville-based mass shooter,
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that the Department of Justice and the FBI tried to suppress his manifesto.
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They said it was too dangerous for the public to see.
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Yet, shockingly, this week, we saw the release of a manifesto, allegedly at least, written by Ryan Routh,
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the alleged assassin who's now been charged in the West Palm Beach golf course attempt on President Donald Trump.
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More shocking, however, is a new bipartisan U.S. Senate committee report,
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first examining the questions surrounding the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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To help me break these and other issues down, let me bring in my co-host, Troy Smith,
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I did a hard trip to New York, but I went to a great book signing for Miranda Devine,
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who's written a terrific book on the Hunter Biden laptop, and we're going to have her on the show here shortly.
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So let's get right into this assassination issue, because I think it is shocking.
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Here's a report from Newsmax that I think summarizes it quite well.
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Let's welcome in former Secret Service agent and former DHS senior advisor Charles Marino.
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Before we get into the Ryan Routh stuff, just want to get your take on some breaking news this morning.
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Brand new right now, the Senate report on the July 13th Butler, Pennsylvania, assassination attempt was just released,
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and we're just looking it over, but it does say that the lead agent in charge of that rally in Butler, PA, back in July,
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was made aware of, quote, credible intelligence of a threat against President Trump.
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He did not pass that on to supervisors and still let Trump take the stage.
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I mean, I just cannot believe the breakdown in information sharing and overall communications
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that took place in both the lead-up and on that day in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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And I don't think many in the Secret Service can understand it either.
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This is serious work, and they need to get this right 100 percent of the time.
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And this kind of stuff that we're reading in the report just cannot happen.
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Yesterday, the president of Iran, Charles, addressed the United Nations.
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Joe Biden did not deny the Iranian president the opportunity to travel to America
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and then be protected by taxpayer-funded security agents and members of the Secret Service
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protecting the Iranian president while there are active threats against Donald Trump's life
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Take a listen to the Iranian president yesterday.
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Charles, why was he given the platform yesterday? Why was he not denied the ability to address the
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U.N., given what's going on between the Iran and the United States and the credible threats
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against Donald Trump's life from Iran? Yeah, look, President Biden continues to
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make the wrong decisions over and over and over again, and this is no surprise. He just cannot
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get it right, no matter how apparent it is. In this type of situation, both in the Middle East
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and what's going on with former President Trump, the Iranian president should have been denied
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access from arriving in the United States. You know, once they say yes, that he's able to come
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into the country and speak at the U.N., the Secret Service is going to be tasked with protecting
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the Iranian president as the official head of the country, no different than the other 139
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leaders that are coming into the United States to be protected. But in this type of situation,
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especially when you incorporate the nuclear issue and how close Iran is reportedly to obtaining a
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weapon, yeah, this was not the right time for this president to be able to come into the country
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and further in sight. All right, Charles, you're looking at, these are protests outside the
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five-star hotel that the Iranian president was staying at last night. These are the protests
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there. So just to connect the dots here, and stop me if I'm wrong, but the U.S. Secret Service was
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forced to allocate resources that could be allocated to Donald Trump to New York City to protect the
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person that wants Donald Trump dead. Am I right there? Exactly right. Okay. Do we not see any problem
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with that? It's the contradiction of all contradictions. And again, this is a weak
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administration, an administration that knows nothing other than appeasement. They refuse to put their
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foot down against our adversaries. They'll willingly do it against our allies, but they won't do it against
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our adversaries. I mean, for the past three and a half years, we've seen this play in day in and day out,
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and it's unbelievable. And yes, essentially, Secret Service resources are being tasked with protecting
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the person, in part, trying to kill former President Trump.
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There's a lot to unpack here. Let's kind of take it in order. As we reported here on the Stone Zone,
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we were mystified by the fact that back in Butler, Pennsylvania, on the 13th of July, that there was
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no drone surveillance of the site of the rally. And in fact, local police had offered to conduct
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drone surveillance, and it had never been responded to. It had never been approved by the Secret Service.
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So this new bipartisan Senate report released today from the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
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Committee, which ironically, Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, kind of the first
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senator to give us a heads up that this report would be shocking, tells us that the Secret Service
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had trouble with their own drone technology, that they were still troubleshooting it hours before the
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rally. And because of that, no drone surveillance of the site was done. So the question you have to ask
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is, why didn't they accede to the request of the local police, who could have conducted that
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surveillance? And then additionally, there are the questions that are raised today about how long
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the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security knew that there was a man with a gun who'd been
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seen with a range finder on the premises, but never informed President Trump's detail and never
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evacuated the president, which would be the normal Secret Service protocol. The more we look into the
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situation in Butler, this is before we even get to Ryan Ralph and the situation in West Palm Beach,
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the more questions we have rather than the more answers. Troy, what's your thinking?
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Well, you know, Roger, when I first read the report that this individual was able to get off
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his shots, and by the way, we still don't know exactly, Roger, how long this individual was allowed
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to camp out at Mar-a-Lago. So reports that I've read say up to 12 hours, but again, we still don't
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really know. And that comes back to what you were talking about with Butler, which is so important,
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is that we don't know anything about that to this point. I mean, we know more
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about so many other cases that really have no bearing on this election, that have no bearing
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on the function of our country. We know every little detail about Taylor Swift. We know every
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little detail about every NFL game yet, but we don't know anything about the two attempts that
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have been made on President Trump's life. And then, now that we have Iran threatening President
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Trump, we saw that clip there, Roger. I haven't seen much coverage of these Iranian threats against
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Trump in the mainstream media. Have you? They've really been downplaying this.
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Yeah, it's very interesting. It kind of reminds me, of course, having written a book about the
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Kennedy assassination. In that instance, the FBI opened and closed their investigation in all of
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seven days, concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, that there were three shots all from behind
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that killed President John F. Kennedy. Very similarly, the FBI has concluded in Butler, Pennsylvania,
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that Thomas Matthew Crooks, a man who has no social media footprint, a man that we know very little
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about, acted alone, that they have not been able to identify any Confederates or other
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people involved in a conspiracy. Yet, we've seen a still photograph of him talking on the phone.
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So, who was he talking to? They also tell us that he had two encrypted platforms that he was
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involved in, but that the FBI hasn't been able to penetrate them. It's funny because Microsoft handed
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over all of my communications, which, by the way, were benign when I was investigated. It really kind
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of, it's a pattern here. And they want to move off of Butler. Now we switch to this question of West Palm
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Beach and Ryan Ralph. Now, Ralph is said to be indigent. He can't make his child support payments.
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He has a failed business. He lives in Hawaii, yet he voted in North Carolina. That's strange.
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Yet he's posted online, put up websites to try to recruit
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fighters to go to Ukraine, mercenaries. Who paid for those websites? Who paid for his travel to Ukraine?
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How did he get to Florida? Did he fly to Florida? Well, I've seen online that he actually flew to North
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Carolina and then drove to Florida, but I don't know that to be true. And then the most shocking
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thing is the publication, or I should say the release by the FBI, of a statement in which he
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actually goes out and seeks to recruit somebody and pay them $150,000 to kill Donald Trump. This is
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provocative. This is the kind of thing that could motivate some copycat would-be killer. Seems
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extraordinarily dangerous to me in view of the fact that they were not willing to release the
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manifesto of the Nashville shooter. It leaked anyway, turned out to be a left-wing radical,
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a trans radical, but we would only know that due to a leak. So this entire question,
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now raising the additional question of the Iranians and whether the Iranians are trying to kill the
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president and the president's own Twitter, pardon me, truth social postings in which he says that
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he's been briefed by the FBI and the secret service about extensive Iranian plots to kill him.
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We don't have the benefit of those briefings, but it's deeply disturbing. Now add on top of all that,
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that the Iranian president's visiting New York, that US taxpayers are paying to protect him at the same
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time, at least allegedly, the Iranians are trying to kill Donald Trump. This is problematic from
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several points of view. The most significant one is, it is normalizing an attempted assassination
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on a former president of the United States, who right now is the front runner to become president.
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One of the questions I was asked repeatedly in New York is how I thought this election was going.
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And I still believe, based on studying all of the polling, that Donald Trump has a narrow but durable
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lead in most of the swing states, that Kamala Harris is, I think, losing ground. The more she's exposed,
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the more we learn about her and her lack of substance, the fact that she doesn't seem to be able to
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do a simple interview, I think that there is a growing hysteria, a growing apoplexy, a growing
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tumult over the fact that they think Donald Trump's about to become president. They don't think they
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can beat him at the polls. We've had some discussion about refusing to certify his election. I think we'll
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do a separate show on that, because it is interesting to see leftists and Democrats now
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openly advocating what they said was a criminal activity when Trump objected to the certification
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of Biden, which, I'm not a lawyer, but based on my reading, the Electoral College Act is perfectly legal.
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Well, and Roger, there's something I'd like to raise here, just as a,
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just kind of a thought, because, you know, just being a reporter and watching things pretty closely,
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we've seen this Ukraine thing pop up time and time again. And I would like for everybody out there,
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if you don't remember this, I would like you to go back and look at some of the investigations that
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were published by Laura Loomer on an individual that she found at a pro-Nazi protest in Florida
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called Kent Boneface McClellan. Now, she published a lot on this, and there's a lot of details as to
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this guy's paramilitary activity, Roger. And this actually went, like, I remember just watching this
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unfold in the deeper and deeper that she dug into Kent Boneface McClellan. We found out this guy was
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fighting for Ukraine against Russians, and he's out on the street wearing a Nazi uniform saluting Joe Biden.
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And if we look at what the DOJ was doing prior to this whole Ukraine-Russia conflict, we have a
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headline that I believe we can put up. The DOJ was actually going after Ukraine, imposing sanctions
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on Ukraine over interference in the 2020 election, where they claimed that Ukrainians were trying to
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interfere in the 2020 election. Now that we go into 2024, we have these strange people like Kent Boneface
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McClendon, now Ryan Ruth, who is Ukrainian through and through, has a website recruiting people to go
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fight for Ukraine. He is lined up to take a shot at President Trump. And I think it's just so interesting,
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Roger, that we're going into this time where the Democrats, you know, as you know, you've covered in
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your books and you've documented so vividly for so many people to see, that when the going gets tough,
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they turn to the most unbelievable things that are so extra legal you can't even imagine.
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And what a perfect scenario that they have in Ukraine, where we already know they have people
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going back and forth in these strange paramilitary groups. We have strange tax dollars going to these
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groups on top of it. I think there needs to be a full investigation into Ukraine's role into this
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coming election. The fact that Biden has Zelensky over here handing him billions of dollars,
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when we know our own DOJ in the last four years has launched sanctions on the Ukrainians for
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interfering in our elections, it's just, it's too good to be true, Roger. And I'd like to get your
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thoughts on, you know, the idea that the Democrats may be using Ukraine to interfere in this election.
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I'll tell you what the most shocking thing I've seen is that President Zelensky himself
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seems to be campaigning for Kamala Harris in the pivotal battleground state of Pennsylvania.
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And several members of Congress now calling to see whether he was transported,
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which is most likely, at U.S. taxpayer expense. If that isn't foreign election interference, I don't
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know what is. I do think that there's a miscalculation here on the part of the Democrats, or I should
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say, the part of the war machine, which is bipartisan. You know, it's Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and the
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Clintons and the Obamas, along with the Cheneys and what's left of the McCain family. There's a
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miscalculation there that the American people are for war, or the American people want to continue to
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ship billions of dollars to Ukraine. I don't think there is a popular support for this war.
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And they seem to think that having Zelensky stump for Kamala, which is basically what he's doing,
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is going to move votes. I think that's a miscalculation.
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I would agree with you there, Roger. And I think the main question that people keep coming back to
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here, especially as it pertains to now the Secret Service, the fact that they're protecting Iran,
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is who's leading the country right now. I mean, we see President Biden out there,
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but he told us just a few days ago that he's not really the one calling the shots. We have a small
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clip from, he had a ceremony at the White House just a few days ago. And during that ceremony,
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he had kind of a off script moment where he kind of admits that people are telling him what to do.
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I want to get your thoughts on this, Roger, and ask you, who do you think is calling the shots right
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now? You know, I thought when I got to be president, I'd get to do things that I wanted to do, but my
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staff tells me what I can't do. But I'm going to do it anyway. All the young women, young kids out
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there that are out there, come on up and do this. Stand behind me when we do this. Come on.
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Shocking, particularly when you add to it evidence we saw this week, actually video footage of Jill
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Biden, who nobody elected, running a cabinet meeting and allegedly also signing documents. Now,
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this reminds me very much of the story of Edith Galt Wilson. She was, of course, first lady married to
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President Woodrow Wilson. In the second year of his second term, he was felled by a debilitating stroke,
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both physically and mentally debilitated. Of course, this was before the age of television or the
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internet. And therefore, he basically didn't appear in public for the balance of his presidency. And in
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conjunction with the White House chief of staff, Colonel Edward House, who's a pretty shady character
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in his own right, she basically ran the country unbeknownst to most Americans. I kind of think this
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is exactly what's going on right now, that Joe is out of it. I think he has his lucid moments, but they're
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few and far between. And when he is lucid, he's very, very angry. You'll remember back during the
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debate when Donald Trump said, look, folks, Joe Biden hates her, meaning Kamala. Notice how she never denied
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that. I think the reason she didn't deny it is because I think they're afraid that Joe Biden might just pipe
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up and tell the truth, which is that he won 71% of the vote. He got 17 million votes in the Democratic
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nominating process. Yet they, the people who claim it's all about democracy nominated a candidate that nobody
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voted for, nobody. They seem to just want to move on from that very quickly.
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Well, they do, Roger. And there's an appearance, we're going to get to that in just a second. But
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before we do that, there's a headline from the Daily Beast that's been put out by the Kamala Harris
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campaign this morning that I think you're in a better position to comment on than just about anybody.
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We have that headline we can put up. Now, why Trump, 78, can't rally like he did before. Now,
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the Kamala Harris campaign has put this out, Roger, and they have said sad and, oh, Trump is wearing
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down. And I'd like to get your comment. You know, you've known Trump for over 45 years. So you've
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seen the full progression from the 80s Trump that people maybe remember seeing in some interviews to
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the president of the United States to enduring the lawfare. And I just wanted to ask you being,
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you know, Roger Stone, do you see any decline from Trump the day you met him to now? Or what is that
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like? Are you seeing this, what the Daily Beast is talking about, is a Trump decline? Do you think
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that's legitimate? This is 100 percent projection. It began, of course, to try to compensate for the
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fact that Joe Biden was the one who's actually cognitively slipping. And I think that was absolutely
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clear. No, the truth is that President Trump has lost a little weight. He looks better than ever.
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And if you just look at his performance at that rally in North Carolina, this is like vintage Trump.
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I see no evidence that he's missing a step. I see no evidence of any decline. This is projection. And,
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of course, they also have to cover the shortcomings of their own candidate. It's telling to me
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that Robert Davi came on our show, the actor, singer, director, entertainer,
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patriot. And as an actor, he said, look, I watched that debate performance. It was very clear to me
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that she had memorized a script, which means, of course, she had to be, at a minimum, given the
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questions in advance, if not the entire questions, then at least an outline of the topics,
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so that she could memorize her presentation. The proof of this is that a week later,
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when she did an interview with an ABC affiliate, when asked specifically how she would bring down
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prices, she mindlessly spit back something that she had memorized from her debate presentation,
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specifically that she grew up in a middle-class family, and it was a family that cared about how
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their lawns looked. In other words, no specifics on how she would bring down prices. When Trump is
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asked the same question in a town hall, he pivots correctly, directly to the role that energy prices
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pay in the entire performance of the economy, saying step one is to start drilling and exploring for
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natural gas again to bring down energy prices, which would have an overall beneficial effect on the
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economy. Then, of course, he's talking about cutting taxes, cutting regulations, which we know, based on
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the presidencies of John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, do stimulate economic growth. Wage growth has been flat
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under this administration. Job growth has basically been fabricated. So first, they said there are 818,000
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jobs created. Then they revised that down to 600,000 roughly, but what they don't tell you is
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all of those jobs, virtually all of those jobs were part-time jobs. They weren't full-time jobs. In fact,
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Americans are working a shorter work week, a shorter number of hours than ever before. This is the
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fundamental flaw in Kamala Harris's entire campaign. The entire campaign is based on a series of lies. If you
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think the economy is doing great, well then I guess you should vote for Kamala Harris. If you think our
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border, as she has insisted several times, as did Secretary Mayorkas, is secure, well then you should
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vote for her. There's no evidence of that. Now they want to argue about whether or not they are dumping
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thousands of Haitian refugees in various parts of the country, and whether that is creating problems,
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which very clearly it is. So they are running a campaign against truth, I think, on every major issue.
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Another example, the insistence by Kamala Harris that crime is down. No, the FBI's own statistics show that
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crime is up, not down. So their entire campaign is based on a series of lies that are just false. I was a little
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amused. They desperately want to get Donald Trump into another debate. Maybe they think they can
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bushwhack him again, because the last debate, well that wasn't a debate, that was a mugging,
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three on one. The president told me that they had a bright light shining directly in his eyes,
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it was blinding. This is why you don't see any reaction shots. Trump is the master of the reaction
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shot. You always notice in these joint appearances in the previous debates, the way he kind of,
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you know, sits there and he smiles and rolls. It's very entertaining, but you don't see him doing that.
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That's because he is blinded by this light. It's very disoriented. The lighting of him when he's in a
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single shot, they have this dark shadow over his face. The whole thing is very strange. And then,
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of course, the fact checking, we've been through this, every one of their fact checks turns out
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to be incorrect. In other words, when they fact checked Trump, he was actually right and they
00:26:59.900
were wrong. It really is mind boggling. Of all people, Raphael Warnock, the senator from Georgia,
00:27:08.460
is calling on Donald Trump to do another debate. Let's take a look at that.
00:27:12.380
Senator, before I let you go, Kamala Harris says she has accepted an invitation to debate in October,
00:27:19.020
and Donald Trump says it's too late and that voters are already voting, which they're already
00:27:23.420
voting now, by the way. But what do you make of his refusal to accept that debate opportunity?
00:27:30.700
He lost. He lost and he knows it. And he's afraid of being humiliated again
00:27:36.700
because we saw what Donald Trump represents. I mean, you watch that debate and all of the bigotry that
00:27:46.620
he engaged in, this awful assault on the Haitian community in a small town in Ohio. The people of
00:27:54.620
America, the people of Georgia want somebody who's focused on them. Donald Trump is for himself and we
00:28:01.660
ought to leave him to himself to focus on himself while we focus on the American people.
00:28:06.940
So, Troy, the most interesting thing about this is, of all people, Raphael Warnock, isn't he the
00:28:13.100
senator who tried to run his wife over with a car? Let's take a look at that.
00:28:18.220
And he's like, I got to get to the airport. I got to go. Close the door. And I was like, please.
00:28:26.140
And he's like, well, I close the door. I'm leaving. And I was like, just hear me out if your mom died.
00:28:34.540
And I had the kids. Wouldn't you want me to let them go with you to the funeral?
00:28:38.380
Mm-hmm. And he just starts backing the car up. And he wasn't going fast. Like, I'm not, I'm not
00:28:46.460
bleeding, but I just can't believe he would run me over. Mm-hmm. You think it was intentional?
00:28:55.100
Mm-hmm. He saw me standing right there. I wasn't far. I was touching my daughter in the car seat.
00:29:02.060
He knew. He told me. He knew that he ran over your foot. This man's running for the United States
00:29:08.860
Senate, and all he cares about right now is his reputation. I work at the mayor's office, and this
00:29:13.260
is a big problem. Okay. I've been trying to be very quiet about the way that he is for the sake of
00:29:18.300
my kids and his reputation. He's the pastor at Ebenezer. I have not involved people. I told the
00:29:24.780
mayor we were getting a divorce simply because I report to one level beneath her, and I needed her to
00:29:29.020
know in advance, but I've tried to keep the way that he acts under wraps for a long time, and today
00:29:33.900
he crossed the line. So that is what is going on here, and he's a great actor. He is phenomenal at
00:29:41.420
putting on a really good show. And all of a sudden she's screaming that I ran over a foot. I don't
00:29:47.260
believe it, but I don't, I don't, you know, I don't, and certainly that was not my intent. Yeah, okay.
00:29:54.620
Certainly not. My head was in the car, and you drove off. Officer, officer, because it was not,
00:30:02.060
that's not true. Officer, because this goes on over and over again.
00:30:07.900
Absolutely shocking. Also, of course, there were revelations during that Senate runoff
00:30:13.420
that the good reverend is a slumlord, and that his church, which is a very storied and respected
00:30:20.620
church owns a lot of housing, which they rent out, but all of which has been substandard,
00:30:27.580
in which there have been many, many complaints. Yet we're told that he won a runoff in Georgia.
00:30:34.620
I'm not sure he's the one I would have out there as a surrogate, but you can see the growing
00:30:40.300
desperation to try to bushwhack Donald Trump in a second debate. Maybe we can set him up.
00:30:46.060
I don't think we're going to see another debate, simply because I can't think of any news outlet
00:30:54.300
who would be acceptable to both the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign who could be trusted to do
00:31:01.420
actually what CNN surprisingly did in the debate with Biden. Although that leads you to wonder what
00:31:07.500
their real motive was in running that debate. I suspect, and said so here on the show at the time,
00:31:15.100
that that was part of the campaign to get Biden out of this race. In other words,
00:31:19.980
he was refusing to go on his own, even though he was under heavy pressure from Barack Obama and others
00:31:25.580
to throw in the towel because of his declining mental and physical situation. And therefore,
00:31:33.740
they led him to slaughter in the debate. And of course, he had a meltdown on national television.
00:31:39.740
And maybe that's why they ran kind of a more even-handed debate. Would you trust CNN again
00:31:48.300
I wouldn't trust CNN to do anything, Roger. And, you know, these presidential debates,
00:31:54.940
you know, they get more interesting, I think, every cycle, because every cycle,
00:31:58.460
they become more manufactured. And I think, you know, if we're really paying attention to the way
00:32:03.980
things are going in this country, I'm seeing more respect. And I want to get your thoughts on this,
00:32:08.540
too, Roger. I'm seeing more respect for people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who venture into these
00:32:14.540
platforms. And we're seeing Trump do this now, venture into these platforms that are not the
00:32:18.940
traditional platforms. So he does a Joe Rogan podcast. He does these bigger podcasts on YouTube
00:32:25.740
and these streamers. We saw President Trump meet with streamer Aiden Ross, reportedly,
00:32:31.420
at the suggestion of his son, Barron Trump. And I would like to see the debates follow that trend,
00:32:38.860
because as somebody who is, you know, created a mainstream or a news outlet, and we're competing
00:32:44.380
with the mainstream news constantly, I don't think having a debate where we have the two presidential
00:32:50.380
candidates take questions from a very biased and untrusted group of people is representative of
00:32:57.820
where we want our country to be. Not only that, Roger, but the very old style two minute response,
00:33:03.420
it doesn't allow for the American people to really get a feel for the personality or the details of these
00:33:10.620
plans. That's why people love new media. It's why people love podcasts. And I think that if we're going
00:33:17.340
to see a road forward, maybe a debate with Tucker Carlson hosting it, maybe even somebody like Joe
00:33:23.180
Rogan, who in the past has been very critical of Donald Trump. I would like to see the debates maybe
00:33:28.620
go in that direction, but I certainly would not trust the mainstream news. What do you think about
00:33:32.700
that idea, Roger? Look, it would be perfectly acceptable to me, but I think we both recognize
00:33:37.820
that Kamala Harris is not going to expose herself to any kind of fair and reasonably
00:33:46.380
moderated debate, which is why I don't think we'll see another debate. If you look at the polling and
00:33:52.780
I've studied it very extensively, I think that the mainstream media narrative that Trump lost that
00:34:00.940
debate is false because of, despite the many disadvantages, his closing statement was very
00:34:07.820
powerful and he restated all of his basic arguments about the economy and the open borders and the inflation
00:34:14.060
and so on. So having escaped that set up, I see no reason why he should debate again. And look,
00:34:22.700
it is the loser who needs another debate. I don't think they got what they wanted out of that. They have
00:34:29.260
bigger problems now, it seems to me, because Kamala Harris can't really stand up to scrutiny as a
00:34:35.340
candidate. There is no there there. And I think more and more voters see that. Meanwhile, you have
00:34:43.740
Donald Trump going to a grocery store, which is, I think, a great way to really emphasize the declining
00:34:52.940
buying power of the dollar based on the inflationary record of the Harris-Biden administration, which is
00:35:00.940
what I would start calling it. Let's take a look at Donald Trump in a grocery store.
00:35:18.620
If it is, I'll be sending. I'll be in Washington, D.C., hopefully in the Oval Office. I'll send for popcorn.
00:35:28.940
It's gonna go down a little bit. It just went down 100 bucks.
00:35:33.420
We'll do that for you from the White House, all right?
00:35:45.820
I mean, there you see, that's the answer, really, to your Daily Beast question. No,
00:35:50.700
there's no decline, and I think it was a very telling move. There's also a great video that I
00:35:56.940
saw, I think you sent it to me, where the president presents a gift to a young boy who has a very rare
00:36:11.820
Because I got you the best president you'll ever have. This is the best president you'll ever have.
00:36:30.700
And we're going to have that picture of her life, okay?
00:36:36.700
Because I left the stage in order to come and say hello to Anne.
00:36:57.420
Look, I don't think you'll ever see Kamala Harris do that.
00:37:01.740
Donald Trump, for anyone who knows him, has this long history of good deeds that he did mostly
00:37:08.780
A famous story about him having car trouble, and the man who helps him subsequently has his
00:37:21.980
So, look, Trump is a warm human being who gets strength from people, likes people, unlike, say,
00:37:33.340
A video of Hillary Clinton trying to say that she's advising Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh on how to
00:37:44.140
So, what is your assessment of the stakes of this election?
00:37:47.580
I mean, you are in a very exclusive club of people who have ever run for president,
00:37:53.260
So, to what extent do you offer counsel, or do you speak with Kamala Harris about how to run
00:37:59.340
against Donald Trump, who, as you've said, is a different candidate now, a darker candidate,
00:38:11.260
I obviously talked with her before the debate, because he is more incoherent.
00:38:29.340
And, you know, in my acceptance speech at the convention way back in 2016, I said,
00:38:35.420
you know, you can't trust somebody with nuclear weapons who you can bait with a tweet.
00:38:43.740
A lot of people didn't, or they gave him the benefit of the doubt.
00:38:46.940
Or they thought, hey, you know, we've had two terms of a Democrat, let's try the Republicans.
00:38:54.300
But now, the stakes are even higher because he has a record.
00:39:03.260
We have seen him try to overturn a legitimate, free, fair election.
00:39:09.420
We have watched him bungle COVID and cause unnecessary deaths and pain.
00:39:18.540
And in addition to that, he's told us what he's going to do.
00:39:22.140
He is absolutely linked to this Project 2025 and all of their dark and dystopian efforts to turn
00:39:29.100
the clock back on Americans' rights and the way we live and how we, you know, look at our futures together.
00:39:35.580
And he has a long rhetorical record now of making it very clear that he would be unaccountable if he were ever near the White House again.
00:39:47.820
Hillary Clinton is either completely delusional or she's completely full of shit.
00:39:55.340
Notice that she doesn't blame the fact that she was caught destroying the servers for an illegal computer server that she had,
00:40:04.780
destroying the records with bit bleach just before the election.
00:40:12.140
So she takes no blame for her loss on herself, she and her husband having substantially
00:40:17.660
more experience at presidential elections than first-time candidate Donald Trump.
00:40:26.220
Meanwhile, she too is a cheerleader for World War III.
00:40:31.660
Many Americans, I think, were distracted by the horrific events at the West Palm Beach Trump International Golf Course,
00:40:41.660
may have not noticed that very same weekend that our Secretary of State, Andy Blinken,
00:40:48.220
gave NATO the go-ahead to use American long-range missiles supplied to NATO to hit targets deep inside Russia.
00:40:59.260
That is, based on the things that Putin has said—no, we're not Putin fans here—a line in the sand that could lead us directly to World War III.
00:41:11.340
These people are entirely capable of starting a world war to avert an electoral disaster in which they lose power.
00:41:20.940
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Troy Smith. Troy, as I said earlier, I think one of the fundamental problems with Kamala Harris'
00:44:11.420
campaigns is built on a series of lies and distortions. There's no greater distortion than
00:44:18.060
the Lankford border bill, which Democrats are now trying to say Trump killed for political purposes,
00:44:25.660
would have addressed the problem at our border, which of course is false. Let's take a look at
00:44:31.100
one of the most egregious liars in the U.S. House of Representatives, trust fund baby Dan Goldman,
00:44:38.140
who bought himself a seat in Congress from Manhattan's Silk Stocking District. Take a look at Dan Goldman.
00:44:43.900
We need, as Mr. Heike said, to increase personnel at the border to deal with the problems so that we
00:44:51.340
can address the women who are being raped, so we can address the cartels that are fueled by American-made
00:44:58.540
guns. We need more personnel. We need more resources. This bill would have done it. But what happened?
00:45:06.300
Donald Trump killed the deal. He's open about it. And you know why he killed the deal that would have
00:45:17.420
dramatically solved our problems at the border? Because he cares more about his own election than
00:45:26.460
he does about the problems facing the American people. And he wanted chaos at the border so that he could run
00:45:34.220
on it. And when you watch him at the debate, he answers every single question, it doesn't matter
00:45:38.860
what the topic is, by going back to immigration. That's what he wants to do. I want to put up,
00:45:45.340
finally, this last quote here from James Lankford, who was the author of this bill and was understandably
00:45:52.780
very frustrated that it did not pass. It is very, very clear that the Republicans do not want to solve
00:46:05.100
I mean, this is total nonsense. First of all, the bill in question would have allowed 150,000 illegals
00:46:14.060
into the country per month. If you just do the math, that's almost 2 million illegals a year.
00:46:20.700
And 100 percent of the funding in the bill was to be used to processing those illegals coming into
00:46:28.140
the country. So the idea that this bill would have solved the problem at the border is, of course,
00:46:33.260
total nonsense, which is why Donald Trump was opposed to it. But the other big lie seems to be the most
00:46:40.060
important lie that they keep telling over and over again is that Trump supports a federal ban on
00:46:46.300
abortions, which is, of course, totally antithetical to his position since the time that he got into
00:46:53.900
politics, that abortion was a state's rights issue and that that decision should be returned to the
00:46:59.260
states. In fact, when Lindsey Graham, prior to the 2022 election, sponsored a federal abortion ban,
00:47:08.780
you have to question what his motives were, completely adverse to President Trump's
00:47:12.860
position. Trump, again, reiterated his opposition to a federal abortion ban. But they mucked this up
00:47:19.980
by making it a three-part lie. One, Trump will sign a federal abortion ban. Kamala has said it.
00:47:26.700
Walsh has said it. It's a lie. Then they say he wants to outlaw IVF, the fertility drugs. When the
00:47:35.900
Alabama legislature was considering doing that, and Trump learned about it, he was personally lobbying
00:47:41.900
Republican state legislators by phone to defeat that proposal and to assure the continued availability
00:47:49.820
of IVF. And then they say, and he's going to take away birth control, which is based on nothing,
00:47:55.900
because it's not true. Kamala Harris, actually, here's a little bite of her completely distorting
00:48:03.740
Donald Trump's position on the abortion issue. But this is a health care crisis. This is a health
00:48:11.020
care crisis, and Donald Trump is the architect of this crisis. He brags about overturning Roe v. Wade.
00:48:18.540
In his own words, quote, I did it and I'm proud to have done it, he says. He is proud, proud that women
00:48:28.460
are dying, proud that doctors and nurses could be thrown in prison for administering care, proud
00:48:38.620
proud that young women today have fewer rights than their mothers and grandmothers. How dare he?
00:49:08.620
And I know everyone here paid attention to the words, though. The words, right?
00:49:16.300
The President of the United States, I'm trying to get another debate. We'll see.
00:49:23.580
But in our debate last week, remember when he said everyone wanted Roe v. Wade to be overturned?
00:49:31.660
Well, exactly. I don't know who everyone is either. Because
00:49:40.700
women have been arrested and charged for miscarriages. They didn't want that.
00:49:50.620
who has, in her professional experience, been administering care to girls.
00:49:57.020
And what we know is that 12- and 13-year-old survivors of assault are being forced to
00:50:05.100
carry a pregnancy to term. They didn't want this.
00:50:10.700
Again, a litany of lies. This is the same woman, by the way, backed up by the moderators in the debate,
00:50:17.420
who said not a single state would allow post-birth abortion, in other words, infanticide,
00:50:25.100
when, in fact, eight states have no limit on when an abortion can be performed. And also claimed that
00:50:32.700
literally no one, no woman, gets an abortion in the eighth or ninth month, when, in fact,
00:50:38.300
there are at least 10,000 such abortions every year. The source here is Axios, hardly a right-wing
00:50:46.220
media outlet. This distortion of Donald Trump's position on abortion is really the centerpiece
00:50:53.020
of this campaign, because they cannot run on the Harris-Biden economic record. They cannot run on
00:51:00.060
the chaos going on in the Middle East or the chaos going on between Russia and Ukraine. They cannot run
00:51:09.020
on the safety of neighborhoods and communities because of their open borders policy. They really
00:51:15.900
seem to think they can hypnotize people into believing that now, suddenly, Kamala Harris,
00:51:22.540
who, despite the denials of ABC and NBC, was in charge of the border for most of Biden's term,
00:51:30.060
can now be counted on to seal the border. They're counting on the suspension of belief by the American
00:51:39.020
voters in this election, on issue after issue after issue. I don't think that's going to work.
00:51:46.860
Well, and Roger, we have a series of examples as that's concerned, and their bar keeps moving.
00:51:55.820
And I thought it was incredibly interesting, you pointed it out right away, that Biden's speech at
00:52:01.660
the DNC was not only, I mean, this is a sitting president of the United States. It was not only
00:52:06.540
not featured prominently, it was like in the middle of the afternoon of the first day, and he immediately
00:52:11.500
was transported from the DNC in Chicago to Camp David, where he was basically, I would guess, locked
00:52:17.020
in a room for two weeks. And we saw him just a few days ago, Roger, flash a MAGA hat. He actually put it
00:52:24.860
on with a group of people and posed with a bunch of children with MAGA shirts and hats. Now, this was
00:52:31.100
just one day after that debate that Kamala Harris was talking so much about, the same debate where
00:52:36.860
President Trump said that Joe Biden hates her, her being Kamala Harris. And today, I found it
00:52:43.340
incredibly interesting that Joe Biden went on The View and actually appeared to blame his entire record
00:52:50.780
on Kamala Harris. Now, there is a moment in here that we're going to play all these back-to-back,
00:52:56.380
where Whoopi Goldberg mentions Trump and calls him a bug, and Biden does do kind of a swatting
00:53:02.540
message. So I'm not saying he's pro-Trump here, but he does appear, in my opinion, to be undermining
00:53:07.500
Kamala Harris. So let's roll these clips and get Roger's thoughts. Is Biden undermining Kamala here on The View?
00:53:13.100
And as Vice President, there wasn't a single thing that I did that she couldn't do. And so I was able to
00:53:20.060
delegate her responsibility on everything from foreign policy to domestic policy.
00:53:24.540
Did you feel that your hand was forced? And what is your relationship with Speaker Pelosi now?
00:53:28.460
My relationship is fine. Look, I never fully believed the assertions that somehow
00:53:39.660
there was this overwhelming reluctance of my running again. I didn't sense that. And although
00:53:45.660
the polling, they said Biden's polling was different. The fact of the matter is,
00:53:49.660
my polling was about, you know, we're always within range of being this guy.
00:53:54.940
And, uh, but, uh, uh, what I did was, I think there were, it makes sense. There are some folks who
00:54:03.180
would like to see me step aside so they have a chance to move on. I get that. That's just human
00:54:08.780
nature. But that wasn't the reason that I stepped down. I stepped down because I started thinking
00:54:14.620
about it. You know, it's hard to think of, I know you're only 30, but it's hard to think of,
00:54:23.260
it's hard for me to even say how old I am. Then he just wouldn't go. He was like a bug.
00:54:29.340
He just kept being there. It was like a, like a bug right there. So you felt, uh,
00:54:39.900
if there's anybody is a bug, I guess it would be a, would be Goldberg. Look, uh, you can,
00:54:44.940
you can see the traces of anger there. He was forced aside. He was bludgeoned out of it. Uh,
00:54:51.020
I think that, uh, that, uh, there was a reporting at the time that I think was entirely accurate by
00:54:58.140
Pulitzer prize winning reporter Seymour Hirsch, formerly the New York times,
00:55:02.460
that they had to threaten Joe Biden with the 25th amendment. Uh, first they had to set him up in the
00:55:07.580
CNN debate. Then they had to threaten him to get him out of the race. And I think most Americans know
00:55:14.540
that that's what really happened. Uh, I'm afraid we're just about out of time here for today's
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You can help us here at the stone zone. And well, Mrs. Stone will be very grateful. Speaking of Mrs.
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Stone, some of you may have read, uh, that she had, uh, her tests on Monday and she is now 42 months
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completely cancer free. Thank you, Jesus. This is something I have prayed fervently about. Uh,
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she's doing extremely well, uh, and, uh, given her original diagnosis, we are very gratified and grateful,
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uh, for the healing power of Jesus Christ. All right, folks, uh, that's it for today on behalf of
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Troy Smith and myself. I want to thank you for joining us again today in the stone zone. Uh,
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and, uh, we'll see you tomorrow until then. God bless you and Godspeed. A man who's gone through hell,
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but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him. Not everybody,
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but people love him and respect him. Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?