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On this episode of The Stone Zone, Roger Stone and Troy Smith and Mike Crispy join host J.R. to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga surrounding Joe Biden and the Democratic National Convention, and how the party is trying to delegitimize Donald Trump s presidential campaign. Plus, a new piece from George Clooney, and why Joe Biden may need to be pardoned for a crime he didn t commit. And the latest on the latest duelings at the Republican National Convention between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. Also, a look at how the DNC is using the Epstein scandal to distract attention from the main event, the DNC Platform Committee's decision to endorse Donald Trump's campaign platform, and a new report from the New York Times op-ed written by Clooney. Finally, a special guest joins the show to help break down what s going on in Milwaukee and what s to come at the convention. The Stonezone is a production of the conservative think tank, The Federalist Society of New York, and produced by Stone and his partner, Jake Chapman. The ultimate destination for all things political and cultural news and commentary: The Weekly Standard, where they break it all down for you in a single episode. Subscribe today using the hashtag on social media, and become a supporter of the show wherever you get your news and information. If you like what you listen, share it! Subscribe to the show! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Like, comment and subscribe to The StoneZ Zone. Subscribe to our new show, and review our new podcast, The Political Commenter, Roger Stone with a chance to win a FREE 7-day VIP membership! and a chance at a discount of $99.99 a month! with discount code POWERFUL_PRODUCER, VIP access to our newest episode launching July 20th, exclusively on Prime Video, starting July 21st, 2020, exclusively at 7/27th, and 7/19th, only at 7 PM EST. FREE MODE, only on Parcast Get exclusive access to all new episodes coming to the Stone Zone and 7 other major podcasting and FREE 7/AVOID worldwide FREE PRODUCED, 7/18th, 9/27 Learn more from Roger & , and , 7/9


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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:12.700 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:17.020 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald
00:00:21.720 Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:26.620 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the
00:00:31.720 Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,
00:00:36.880 Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:46.900 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone. Well, there could be no other
00:00:54.680 more solid evidence that Barack Obama is the one orchestrating the attempted pressure to get Joe
00:01:03.220 Biden out of the race than the New York Times op-ed by George Clooney, the actor. We're told that
00:01:10.940 Clooney conferred with Obama before publication of that piece, but I suspect it was the other way
00:01:18.540 around. My sources tell me that Joe Biden at this point is sequestered by his son, Hunter, acting as
00:01:27.380 the gatekeeper and chief political advisor, of course, with the support of Dr. Jill, who doesn't want
00:01:35.600 Joe to drop. Hunter's conflict of interest is obvious, but even Joe, in his lucid moments, may realize
00:01:43.920 that he, his brother, his son, and other members of the Biden crime family may need a pardon.
00:01:53.020 So they're blaming the staff, which is a mistake because the staff then goes and leaks further
00:02:00.140 evidence of the infirmity of Joe Biden. Now, last night, when he did both a NATO speech and a Q&A press
00:02:09.580 conference where he needed a home run, he barely got a double, but all of the oxygen has been taken
00:02:16.500 out focusing on the fact that he incorrectly referred to his own vice president as Vice President
00:02:22.980 Trump, which if he had caught himself and corrected himself, he probably could have gotten away with,
00:02:28.680 but that has taken all of the news, yet reaffirming the public narrative that Joe is not all there.
00:02:36.200 To help break all of this down, not only this, but also the latest duelings at the Republican
00:02:43.580 National Convention, first is my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news, Troy Smith.
00:02:51.280 Troy, welcome to the Stone Zone.
00:02:53.780 Roger, as always, it's an honor to be here back in the Stone Zone, and I feel like we're heading into
00:02:59.200 war here, the RNC. It's going to be a hell of a showdown, and I'm happy to be here in the Stone
00:03:05.500 Zone to help cover it. Well, to help us discuss what's already happened in Milwaukee and what
00:03:11.120 will happen, Mike Crispy joins us. Mike Crispy is not only a Trump delegate from New Jersey,
00:03:19.400 he is a former congressional candidate, currently the host of Mike Crispy Unafraid, one of the most
00:03:26.240 popular daily streaming shows right here on Rumble. By the way, folks, get the Rumble app,
00:03:33.220 and when you do, set notifications for the Stone Zone and also for Mike Crispy Unafraid. Mike also
00:03:41.080 does a late night show called Last Call, which is also excellent. Let's also mention that Mike is
00:03:49.120 one of the founders of the Italian American Civil Rights League, and he is the leader of a grassroots
00:03:57.460 America first movement in New Jersey. Mike Crispy joins us in the Stone Zone.
00:04:05.980 Oh, thank you very much, Roger. Great introduction. I appreciate it. And yeah, we're back from Milwaukee.
00:04:11.460 We're going to go back on Monday morning, and the convention is about to get rolling,
00:04:16.380 and we had a great start, so look forward to talking about it.
00:04:19.000 Yeah, some very interesting things here. I think it's very clear that the Platform Committee
00:04:25.060 adopted a platform that is a perfect reflection of the populist conservative revolution as envisioned
00:04:33.240 by Donald Trump. In order to try to distract attention from Joe's deterioration and their internal
00:04:40.160 fighting, the Democrats are trying to tag Donald Trump with something called Amendment Agenda 2025,
00:04:47.080 put together by conservatives at the Heritage Group. There may, in fact, have been some Trump
00:04:53.460 supporters involved in putting together that dome, but that's not Donald Trump's platform. That's
00:04:59.420 not what he's running on. That's not what he's committed to. Notice the Democrat fake news machine
00:05:07.080 in two areas here. One is this constant hammering on Agenda 2025, as if anybody's going to read it,
00:05:16.240 but then secondarily, they're also trying to recycle this idea that Trump had an extensive
00:05:23.180 relationship with Jeffrey Epstein based on recently released documents that don't really show us
00:05:30.080 anything we didn't already know, that Trump cut Epstein off after he, prior to his being convicted of a
00:05:38.480 sex crime in Florida, never took any campaign contributions or charitable contributions from him,
00:05:43.960 unlike the Clintons, never visited his island. And the two times he was on his plane, he was with his
00:05:50.580 wife and his daughter, flying from New York to Palm Beach and back when Trump's plane was in for
00:05:57.400 service. Anyway, let's get back to the convention. You were Trump's point man on the rules committee.
00:06:04.780 Uh, that must've been a great experience.
00:06:09.940 Oh, it absolutely was. You know, the beauty of the Republican party today, Roger, is that
00:06:15.740 it looks like nothing from 2016, 2015, you know, back then president Trump was coming in and he was
00:06:22.260 taking over from the neocon wing of the party. And I was pleased to say that now in 2024, being on the
00:06:29.420 rules committee and being there in the room, also fortunate enough to be a, a whip, a designated whip
00:06:34.940 for president Trump, um, on the rules committee that it passed with flying colors and the room
00:06:40.520 understands the most important fact of this convention coming up. And that is, this is
00:06:46.160 president Trump's party. These are his rules that he put out. The platform was his platform that he put
00:06:52.440 out. And I said it in the committee meeting, when I spoke, I said, listen, everybody here who wants to
00:06:57.300 change things or wants to push their ideology and, you know, is trying to co-opt the movement in some
00:07:02.640 way, shape or form. You mentioned that, you know, project 2025 thing, everyone's trying to put these
00:07:07.180 narratives out, but there's only one narrative that matters. It's the narrative that comes down
00:07:11.040 from the Trump campaign, the rules they want, they should get them the platform that they want.
00:07:17.200 They should get it because obviously president Trump has built this party to historic new levels
00:07:22.640 of support from a extremely broad coalition. So it was my great honor to be in that meeting
00:07:28.240 and to speak up for the campaign and to, you know, there wasn't a lot of people, maybe like,
00:07:34.020 you know, two, three, four, five troublemakers who didn't agree with the president's agenda,
00:07:38.600 but, you know, we quickly discarded of them. We passed the rules. And I think it's going to be
00:07:44.420 really great when the convention week starts up because there's going to be an extremely stark
00:07:48.400 contrast. The Democrats, when they do their convention are going to be in disarray. Biden
00:07:52.920 said the delegates can be unbound. They're going to be chaos. There's going to be fighting.
00:07:56.960 And I said in the committee meeting, the beauty of the RNC this year is it's going to be the most
00:08:02.240 well-oiled machine, smoothest run, most unification. And so I think that was the message that we had
00:08:08.980 in the rules committee meeting. I heard that was the same thing in the platform committee meeting.
00:08:13.000 So I'm looking forward to a big week, Roger, and it's going to be a lion's share of people
00:08:17.440 coming out for Trump. No one's going to be able to do anything otherwise, like try to create any
00:08:20.920 funny business. This is Trump's party confirmed. The platform I think is very notable, reminds me
00:08:27.880 very much of Reagan's 1980 platform. It is not a war and peace. It is a straightforward
00:08:34.340 presentation of the individual things that Trump is for. Trump, for example, is, I'm sorry,
00:08:40.980 he's opposed to extending the age before which you can get social security. And he's opposed to
00:08:46.980 looking at your outside income beyond your social security benefits to potentially use that as a
00:08:52.920 rationale to cut your benefits. Sorry, Trump has opposed that his entire life, including the time
00:08:58.860 that he's been in politics. So I just use that as an example. I also think the platform committee
00:09:04.260 came up with a pro-life position, which keeps a broader coalition of pro-life supporters on board.
00:09:11.560 There are some people who would like stricter restrictions on abortion. There are a few people in the
00:09:16.720 party who like less, but this is a reflection of Donald Trump's position. He's pro-life with three
00:09:22.000 exceptions, just like Ronald Reagan. No, we're not for a national anti-abortion law. In fact, we fought
00:09:29.020 for 30 plus years to return this decision where it belongs, with the states. So I think that was an
00:09:36.580 accomplishment. And I saw a letter co-signed by a number of leaders of the major pro-life
00:09:41.760 organizations, not all of whom got everything they wanted, but in support of the final plank. So
00:09:49.820 I think that Trump team did an excellent job in this regard. Troy, you're on deck. What would you
00:09:57.480 like to ask the man who's already been to Milwaukee and seeing what's about to unfold?
00:10:03.520 Well, my question, Mike, would be, you mentioned the troublemakers there, and I'm interested to know
00:10:08.000 what these people, like Roger mentioned, the pro-life thing. I think maybe you have some
00:10:12.580 people that were worried about that, but I was interested to see, like, what were the points
00:10:15.660 of contention with these people? And what were they really trying to fight back on? I love to
00:10:20.900 hear that there's unity, but I'm interested to hear what their qualms were.
00:10:26.240 Well, I mean, these were all people who, and if you look at them, and I started looking in their
00:10:31.020 background as a journalist, like we all are on this show, looking at the background of these people,
00:10:35.480 and these are people who didn't even support President Trump in 2016, okay? I looked at the
00:10:39.500 backgrounds of the very small, I'm talking like two, three people, okay, in a room of, you know,
00:10:45.020 200 plus who were in support in the committee. These people were never Trumpers to begin with.
00:10:50.600 So I think that they were just trying to disrupt the proceedings. I think that, again, that they,
00:10:56.740 for some reason, feel that, you know, the Trump movement isn't the movement that's going to take
00:11:01.160 this party into the future. They're in delusionville, right? I mean, these people are nuts.
00:11:04.980 So the points of contention that they were making was they were trying to disrupt the rules
00:11:08.900 proceeding with like these little ticky-tack things. We want to move dates of primaries,
00:11:13.360 and we want, you know, this provision in the rule of the convention to be able to do this.
00:11:18.000 It was like small stuff that they were trying to turn into big stuff, because I believe they
00:11:23.840 wanted a distraction. They wanted the narrative to be out there. Well, there's disagreement among
00:11:29.060 the delegates, there's disagreement among the people. I was looking at the proposed changes
00:11:33.860 that this small group was making, and it didn't even, it didn't even make sense. I'm like, what,
00:11:38.060 you're, you're going crazy. You're going to bat for this. So it was a small amount of dissenting,
00:11:43.360 of dissenting people on a very small ticky-tack rules-based things. I wasn't in the platform
00:11:48.900 meeting, but in the rules meeting, it was like nonsensical stuff that was quickly discarded of it.
00:11:53.920 And I just think these are a small contingent of a dying, never Trump wing. It was all Trump in
00:12:00.260 there, all Trump Troy, and that's what we need. Mike, one thing I did to disturb me a little bit,
00:12:06.680 I read a piece in Slingshot News that told me that Bill Palatucci, who was the New Jersey Republican
00:12:15.020 National Committee member, was reelected, but only after former Governor Chris Christie showed up at a
00:12:22.260 Republican State Committee meeting and started twisting arms and making promises. And then
00:12:29.240 Palatucci defeated John Purdy, who was the chairman of the Atlantic County Republican Committee,
00:12:36.420 and an early and strong Trump supporter by a mere two votes. The problem here is that Palatucci
00:12:42.960 now says he will not support President Donald Trump, who legally has not yet been nominated.
00:12:49.820 But Rule B that was passed, that is retained, of the Republican National Committee says,
00:12:58.140 the Republican National Committee shall have the power to declare vacant the seat of any member who
00:13:03.920 refuses to support the Republican nominee for president or vice president of the United States.
00:13:11.480 Once Donald Trump is renominated, if Palatucci sticks to his current public position that he
00:13:19.060 will under no circumstances support Trump, do you think he should be removed?
00:13:27.640 Absolutely. So we had our National Committee man race. And for those of you guys who don't know,
00:13:32.320 the way the RNC works, you have a National Committee man, a National Committee woman
00:13:35.580 from each state, and them, along with the chairman of the state party, represent the 168. Okay,
00:13:42.360 that's like the executive body of the RNC that votes on things and basically sets a lot of the
00:13:48.180 things, you know, in the regular meetings for the RNC. So Bill Palatucci represents us from New Jersey,
00:13:54.280 President Trump endorsed against him, okay, in his reelection race for National Committee man,
00:13:59.480 and Chris Christie, okay, who was Bill Palatucci's number one ally, was strong arming folks,
00:14:04.580 promising contracts, promising legal work, trying to intimidate people,
00:14:09.120 and basically strong arm the local state committee to reelect Palatucci. Now you mentioned rule 4B in
00:14:16.180 the RNC, Roger, and Palatucci is totally in a direct violation of that. Once President Trump
00:14:21.520 is formally nominated, and Bill Palatucci continues his track record of being an anti-Trump, never Trump
00:14:27.600 wacko, the likes of which would make Mitt Romney, okay, look like a moderate, then Palatucci needs to
00:14:34.140 go. Palatucci needs to go. This is a guy who was involved in the no labels party not long ago,
00:14:39.120 this is a guy who said he would never vote for Trump, this is a guy who said that nobody was
00:14:42.980 above the law when they were hitting Trump with those absolute BS charges. So here's the deal,
00:14:48.440 once President Trump gets nominated, Bill Palatucci, he's gonna have to really speak for himself,
00:14:54.080 because if he gives some half-hearted endorsement, I don't think that's enough. He might try to do that
00:14:58.760 to save his hide, but here's the deal, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck,
00:15:04.120 Bill Palatucci for the last number of years has had true TDS, Trump derangement syndrome,
00:15:10.200 and 100% once Trump is nominated, I think that based on the hundreds of tweets and public statements
00:15:18.100 out there, that this guy can never be trusted as a real supporter of the President, and he needs to
00:15:22.500 be expelled. We need clean pro-Trump leaders in the RNC to take this party and our movement into the
00:15:29.300 future, Roger. So Palatucci needs to go. Mike, let's talk about the Garden State for a moment.
00:15:36.620 I have seen polling that indicates that a race that includes Robert Kennedy also includes the fact
00:15:43.940 that Kennedy polls disproportionately from Joe Biden, or presumably the Democrat. The New Jersey
00:15:50.960 Democrats have gone to court in an attempt to remove RFK from the ballot. Let's assume that he remains
00:15:58.360 on the ballot just for the purposes of this discussion. New Jersey really looks to me like
00:16:04.180 it's within range. I mean, this really changes the map in a very significant way. The other states that
00:16:12.700 I think meet this criteria, New Mexico, now in range. Virginia, now in range. Maine, now in range.
00:16:21.140 And you have a divided congressional district situation there. But New Jersey now in range.
00:16:28.000 How are you feeling about the campaign in New Jersey?
00:16:33.700 Well, Roger, you remember during the Trump rally in Wildwood, I got on the stage and I said,
00:16:39.920 I don't know if you've seen the recent polls, but President Trump is about to take the lead in New
00:16:43.880 Jersey. That was an Emerson College poll that I was referencing where he was down five points.
00:16:47.660 I think there was another poll by McLaughlin that had him down four right around the time of the
00:16:51.800 rally. So it's no surprise to me that this past week, there were two new polls that came out
00:16:57.040 that had President Trump up by one points and two points respectively. This is no surprise. I mean,
00:17:02.040 if you look at the demographic makeup of a state like New Jersey, one, we've elected statewide
00:17:06.840 Republicans at the gubernatorial level in the last decade. So it's possible. One, people say it's
00:17:12.460 impossible. It's totally possible. Two, South Jersey, extremely red. They are fired up,
00:17:17.620 more than ever. They're going to go for Trump. Then you have Central Jersey, the suburbs of North
00:17:22.120 Jersey. Okay. We see the way that independents are breaking for Trump at record levels. Young
00:17:27.000 voters breaking for Trump at record levels. We have a large minority population in New Jersey of every
00:17:32.180 single different minority, black population, Asian population, Indian population, et cetera.
00:17:37.480 Every single minority group, President Trump is gaining significant grounded. And then you look at the
00:17:42.600 urban areas. Okay. You look at places, Hudson County, adjacent to Manhattan, Newark, Camden,
00:17:48.140 Patterson. Okay. Atlantic City. These are the big urban hubs that usually throw the state to the
00:17:54.500 Democrats. The fact that President Trump is now polling in urban areas by 10, 15 points higher than any
00:18:02.100 Republican has in a very long time, him peeling off that voter share puts him over the top. So with the
00:18:08.060 independent voters in the middle and the North, with the urban areas, with him gaining a lot of
00:18:13.140 momentum and with him juicing up South Jersey, which is always red to historic levels, New Jersey
00:18:18.880 is totally within play. So I'm not surprised, Roger. I think he's going to carry the Garden State. We've
00:18:24.200 been saying that for a while, you and I, and I think it's starting to play out. We're going to run a very
00:18:29.080 aggressive grassroots campaign here now until November to get him over the finish line, be too big
00:18:34.420 to rig, take the Garden State. And so goes the Garden State. You know, he gets that it's over.
00:18:40.520 Very good point. Troy.
00:18:43.200 Well, Mike, I had just, I wanted you to comment on something because it appears what we're, you know,
00:18:47.600 you're talking about the fact that Trump actually has a chance of winning New Jersey. And I think
00:18:51.620 he's doing that because he's broadening the coalition of people that would vote for a Republican.
00:18:56.100 And I think, you know, when I was talking to you for this story on Slingshot News, I got the impression
00:19:00.860 that Chris Christie, who has led an anti-Trump Republican coalition in the state of New
00:19:06.200 Jersey for many years now, is sensing that it's not his politics that are growing the
00:19:11.160 party. It's Trump's politics and the working class people. They're taking over the Republican
00:19:16.800 politics in New Jersey. I'd like you to comment on Chris Christie's control and ask you, are
00:19:21.980 there other Republicans in the state other than Palatucci who you think will line up to betray
00:19:26.200 President Trump in 2024?
00:19:28.060 Yeah.
00:19:30.860 Well, the base of New Jersey is rejecting Chris Christie more and more by the day, as
00:19:38.300 he continues to be still in the mix. I mean, people can't believe it. When I meet people
00:19:42.840 from around the country, like I did in Milwaukee these last couple of days, they're like, Chris
00:19:46.840 Christie still has influence in the Republican party. That's crazy. So his politics are going
00:19:52.420 by the wayside, but there are still people who linger, who influence, okay, what's going
00:19:58.480 on? These are names of people who fancy themselves as Trump people, but in reality, they're still
00:20:05.260 working the double-edged sword. They'll still double-dealing. Okay. People like George Gilmore,
00:20:09.960 who's the Ocean County GOP chair, you know, he is helping Bill Palatucci get elected. He's
00:20:15.560 still good friends with Chris Christie. Okay. These are people who say, we're going for Trump,
00:20:19.860 but then on the other side, they're working with Chris Christie because they think at the local
00:20:24.300 level and the federal level, people won't be able to connect the dots. There are people like that in
00:20:29.260 the state. There's a lot of people out there who say they're going to support Trump for president,
00:20:33.540 but if you look at their body of work, if you really want somebody who's MAGA, if you really
00:20:37.220 want somebody who's going to, you know, stand with the president when the going gets tough,
00:20:41.040 if you want somebody who's going to put in the work and not just pay the lip service,
00:20:44.140 you need people who are with the president at the local state and federal level.
00:20:49.220 President Trump has made local endorsements in New Jersey, made state endorsements. He's made
00:20:53.120 federal endorsements. He endorsed a good friend, Christine Serrano-Glassner for U.S. Senate.
00:20:58.420 And a lot of people didn't want to support his nominee. Okay. They were working against
00:21:02.820 president Trump's pick for the nomination, Christine Serrano-Glassner for a guy that Chris Christie
00:21:07.620 was supporting, Curtis Bashaw. So there's a lot of these people still in the midst, Troy.
00:21:11.740 And I think that as president Trump, you know, gets back in the Oval Office and
00:21:15.980 continues to gain in New Jersey, I think that the grassroots are going to sniff these people out
00:21:21.540 and get smart to it. Usually they've been like, oh, you know, New Jersey's not in play. So we don't
00:21:25.760 need to kind of worry about it. We're just going to support president Trump. But now that New Jersey
00:21:29.280 is turning into a Trump state, it's going to activate and fire up grassroots people to sniff out
00:21:35.180 the local and state people that say they're with Trump, but are double dealing. We're coming for them, Troy.
00:21:41.740 I think the most important aspect of this is to recognize that, particularly in a state like
00:21:47.200 New Jersey, where Republicans are overwhelmingly outnumbered, the America First movement as a
00:21:52.840 populist reform movement is much larger and broader than the Republican Party. The people you're talking
00:21:59.540 about, the Republicans in name only, they have no ability to reach out beyond Republicans of the
00:22:06.780 country club variety. They don't have a strong track record of being able to bring in independents
00:22:13.760 and Democrats. They have no ability to make these kind of inroads into the more traditional Democrat
00:22:21.620 voting groups. We're going to keep an eye on the Palatucci question very carefully. Mike,
00:22:29.000 were you able to watch President Biden last night? I was, I was, and I was pretty amazed that the
00:22:40.720 White House doctors at this point have not gotten the drug dosage right yet, Roger. I mean, are they
00:22:46.060 at this point intentionally trying to wean them off of it? Because I think, and you've been around
00:22:50.480 politics for a long time, Roger, has the sitting president of the United States of America
00:22:55.620 ever called his vice president by the name of the person in which he's running against? I mean,
00:23:03.320 it's, it's unbelievable. But that was only one horrific display of many of them. So yes, I, I watched
00:23:10.060 it and it was painstaking. Yeah, a very high risk strategy, particularly the idea of having given NATO
00:23:17.660 speech, which, where he implied or slurred the wife of a NATO official. I listened to it five times. I'm
00:23:27.220 not quite sure what he was saying. But then go immediately into a, what they kept calling a big
00:23:35.260 boy press conference, which makes no sense to me. This guy's 81 years old. He's been around. He hasn't
00:23:42.720 done many press conferences, but we know why. The tip off here, of course, was the reluctance, in fact,
00:23:49.280 the refusal by Attorney General Merrick Garland to turn over the audio tape of the interview with
00:23:56.240 special counsel Robert Herr. They've given us a transcript and they claim executive privilege.
00:24:02.720 The same argument Nixon made about keeping his tapes private and providing a transcript, which of
00:24:09.180 course the courts did not allow. Why would there be a different standard for executive privilege
00:24:14.360 between Richard Nixon and Joe Biden? Whatsoever is on that tape must be horrific. That was the tip
00:24:21.960 off that this debate was going to be a disaster. I still put Joe's survival right now, and I'm not a
00:24:31.000 Democrat, but I have friends and sources. I put his survival at about 50-50. Obama is powerful. If you look at
00:24:38.860 the list of major establishment Democrat cabal-oriented news outlets like the New York Times, the Economist,
00:24:50.480 the Chicago Tribune, the Philadelphia Inquirer, CNN does as much damage to Biden every night that they
00:24:58.400 possibly can, quite a juxtaposition from them covering for him for the last year, last three years,
00:25:07.200 really. I still put his survival at about 50-50. I do think that if Obama can flip Pelosi and Clyburn,
00:25:19.420 then I think as all of those folks combined will get him out of the race. You can already see Pelosi
00:25:25.860 has moved away from him. She's undermining him. So I don't underestimate Barack Obama. He's still the
00:25:33.780 most influential Democrat in their party and in the country. But what do you think his odds of survival
00:25:41.900 are, Mike?
00:25:45.540 Well, I think his odds of survival right now are probably the same, about 50-50. I mean,
00:25:50.660 it's amazing how they go along with the theatrics, Roger. I was watching not only his press conference,
00:25:55.300 the big boy press conference, but I was watching him just deal at the NATO meeting. The guy is sitting
00:26:00.640 there reading a flashcard as he's talking to Zelensky. He's meeting with the new prime minister
00:26:07.500 of the UK and he's like making very weird facial expressions and motions. And then when he gets up
00:26:14.380 in another part of the day to introduce Zelensky, he calls him President Putin. And then when a reporter
00:26:20.800 asked him about it later and says, what was that? He gets angry and he yells at them and says, come on,
00:26:26.900 man, I was joking around. Everyone knows he wasn't joking around. So I think obviously he's digging
00:26:32.620 his heels in. I think obviously he doesn't want to go down. You know, I've heard things that
00:26:37.280 possibly, you know, obviously they control Joe, the Obamas and, you know, DNC power brokers. But,
00:26:43.140 you know, Joe Biden might have some dirt on the Obamas. You never know. His family. Clearly the
00:26:47.640 Biden family has proven to be ruthless and calculated and criminal. Exactly that. So I think it might be a
00:26:53.560 two-way street where they're trying to like thread this needle to like get him out without it blowing
00:26:57.740 up completely. Hunter Biden, Jill Biden wanted him to stay in. Joe Biden doesn't know where he should
00:27:02.840 be, but, you know, he's still the president and he's angry and he's kind of digging his heels in.
00:27:07.360 So I think it's a 50-52. Now he did say, Roger, in his presser that essentially his delegates could be
00:27:14.260 unbound. I guess there's a conscious clause in the DNC that says that the delegates can go elsewhere
00:27:20.320 if in their conscience they don't think the nominee is the right person. So he basically opened it up
00:27:25.440 to the fact that they could do that. So if that's the case and the delegates are unbound, what's going
00:27:30.080 to happen at the DNC? It could potentially be chaos. And then your longtime prediction, Roger,
00:27:35.100 you were the first person who I think said this period of anybody, was that at the DNC, that is where
00:27:41.400 the swap would and could occur. It wouldn't come before that, but it would come at the convention.
00:27:46.940 And you've talked about Michelle Obama. There's other names that get floated out there. So I
00:27:51.520 think it's a 50-50 at this point, but I think Biden in his press conference, you know, aggressively
00:27:55.660 saying that his delegates can be unbound if they want and kind of some bravado with that statement.
00:28:00.100 I think that that could very well happen. And I think the DNC is going to be a chaotic week.
00:28:08.180 Yeah, I agree with you, Mike. One of the problems here, of course, is that the Democrats who doubt
00:28:13.120 that Joe Biden can win, also doubt that Kamala Harris can win. And they understand not only her
00:28:19.120 limitations as a candidate, but that she's inexorably connected to Joe's disastrous record.
00:28:27.400 That's why I've long thought that if we got to an open convention situation,
00:28:31.860 that a runaway convention could nominate Michelle Obama. Otherwise, the party cannot pass over a sitting
00:28:41.080 vice president of color because she's half Jamaican and half Bahamian, I believe, for, say, Gavin Newsom or
00:28:49.800 some other white candidate. But then if they do get saddled with Kamala Harris,
00:29:00.860 I think that they then go to a governor, probably the governor of Pennsylvania,
00:29:10.360 Josh Shapiro, in an attempt to alter the map, Pennsylvania being a must-carry state right now
00:29:17.060 for Trump. Now, if Trump carries Virginia and New Jersey, Pennsylvania becomes less important,
00:29:23.120 not unimportant, but less important. So I think the dynamic here is still continues to be very,
00:29:31.840 very fluid. If you go back to Politico a month ago, there, just before the debate or around the debate,
00:29:41.100 probably right after the debate, they said of the 7,000 delegates where Joe got 95 percent,
00:29:46.820 the Biden people have been pretty careful to select Biden people. But against the power of Barack Obama,
00:29:53.540 is anyone really a Biden person in this party? This remains to be seen. Pelosi, I'm told Pelosi
00:30:02.180 and Clyburn are among the few that Hunter will allow to see or speak to the president.
00:30:08.120 I think they're going to be very determinative in the end in this decision.
00:30:11.980 Absolutely. I'll just say, you know, Roger, I think the timeline here, I think it's important
00:30:23.480 to point out that this is all happening. I think the DNC, the convention is going to be,
00:30:28.580 it's just too close. And if I had to put like a percentage on it, I'd say there's a 10 percent
00:30:33.340 chance that Biden is removed. And here's why. Because the plan all along, we have to remember,
00:30:39.360 the plan all along has been to steal the election, just like they did in 2020. So they are really
00:30:45.640 not, I don't think, concerned electorally. They're worried about Biden looking so bad that they're
00:30:51.980 not going to be able to steal it because people are going to say, what the hell? I didn't vote for
00:30:55.180 this guy. And look, that already kind of happened in 2020. It's really going to happen in 2024.
00:31:00.940 And the timeline here, I think you see Gretchen Whitmer positioning herself. Gavin Newsom is not
00:31:07.100 really positioning herself as well as Gretchen Whitmer. But I think the play for all these
00:31:11.940 Democrats, what they want to do eventually is get Biden across the finish line in 2024 and then have
00:31:18.020 him kind of ride off into the sunset. That's how it looks. But the fact that they've defended Biden
00:31:22.740 so vehemently over the last four years and given him excuses and passes for all of his scandals and
00:31:28.580 corruption, they've kind of created a situation where they can't get rid of him unless he walks away.
00:31:33.500 And the only question I think is if he gets so bad, which I think he is, you know, at that point
00:31:38.900 now, that they can't steal it because people literally do not support him even in the Democrat
00:31:44.220 party. Well, we shall see. Unfortunately, we have to leave it there. Mike Crispy from Mike Crispy
00:31:50.580 Unafraid, not to mention Last Call, both available here on Rumble. Go get that Rumble app, folks, and
00:31:57.580 set a notification for both of Mike's great shows as well as The Stone Zone. Mike, I'll see you in
00:32:04.640 Milwaukee.
00:32:08.540 Yes, sir. Going to be a lot of fun and can't wait to see who he picks as vice president. Right,
00:32:14.440 Roger? It's going to be quite a week.
00:32:16.060 It's going to be very exciting. All right. We're going to take a quick commercial break. Folks,
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00:34:39.140 and service today. You will not regret it in the troubled days ahead. All right, Troy, you're back in
00:34:49.680 the hot seat, my friend. There he is. I want to break this right now here on the Stone Zone. And
00:34:56.440 this is, like I said, just breaking. We have news that Democrat donors are withholding apparently
00:35:02.100 $90 million that has been previously pledged to the Biden campaign to one of his largest super PACs
00:35:08.160 if Biden is not removed from the ticket. So that's breaking news right now. $90 million being held
00:35:14.140 by Democrat donors who have already pledged the money, but are saying they will not actually
00:35:19.520 fulfill that pledge if Biden is at the top of the ticket. So, Roger, that's breaking news. I'm
00:35:24.740 wondering now if these donors are going to try to hold the Democrat Party hostage. And in that case,
00:35:31.280 you know, what their plan really is? Is it going to be Kamala? This seems to be, I mean, have you ever
00:35:36.420 seen a ticket in this much disarray, this close to an election? This is really, I think, uncharted territory.
00:35:42.600 It really is. We've predicted this several times here on the show. The largest bundler and fundraiser
00:35:51.400 for Democrats and left-wing causes in New York, a gentleman named Kramer, has made it very clear that
00:35:57.140 he will not be raising money. I'm told that is typical of the entire donor class. The op-ed from
00:36:04.420 George Clooney was further proof that the moneyed elites and the Hollywood crowd think it's time for
00:36:12.460 Joe to go. Also, you see in the Congress a growing number of members who are calling for Joe to drop.
00:36:22.140 Believe me, nobody is doing this without checking with Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader. Their
00:36:28.780 party internal discipline is very strong. But I see Washington State Congresswoman Marie
00:36:34.980 Glusenkamp-Perez, Illinois Congressman Eric Sorensen, Connecticut Congressman Jim Himes, senior on the
00:36:43.980 Intelligence Committee, Arizona Congresswoman Greg Stanton, Hawaii Congressman Ed Case, Illinois Congressman
00:36:54.820 Brad Schneider, Michigan Congresswoman Hillary Scholten, Oregon Congressman Earl Blumenauer, Vermont's U.S.
00:37:04.940 Senator Peter Welch, the first Democrat senator to come out publicly and say Joe must drop. New York's
00:37:12.940 Lieutenant Governor Antonio Delgado. Don't think that Antonio did that without the approval of Governor
00:37:20.860 Kathy Hochul. Zero chance. New York Representative Pat Ryan, New Jersey Congressman Mike Sherrill, Washington
00:37:30.620 State's Adam Smith, New York's Jerry Nadler, very senior in the caucus, Congressman Mike Teccano, New York
00:37:40.620 Congressman Joe Morrell, Minnesota Congressman Angie Craig, Illinois Congressman Mike Quigley. This list goes on and on.
00:37:52.620 And Seth Moulton, Arizona Congressman Paul Grahavala. I think I said that probably. Juan Castro,
00:38:00.620 the former HUD secretary. So this list gets longer and longer. Texas Congressman, one time U.S. Senate candidate
00:38:08.620 Lloyd Doggett. The list of congressional Democrats is already significant. It's going to grow further. My sources
00:38:18.620 tell me that polling continues to show that districts that the Democrats thought were here to force safe
00:38:26.620 are now looking competitive. It's also true in several states. As I said earlier, Trump moving into contention
00:38:34.620 in Virginia, in New Mexico, in New Jersey, and in Maine. So this is adding to the panic,
00:38:42.620 the pressure, the pressure, therefore, on Pelosi, as one of the few people who has actual influence with Joe,
00:38:48.620 will be enormous. Now combine that with the pressure from Barack Obama, and I still think you have a toxic
00:38:58.620 mix here for Joe. So joining us now to help further break this down is my adopted nephew, Alex Stone, who helms
00:39:10.620 the Alex Stone show in a segment we call the Rolling Stones. Welcome back into the Stone Zone, Alex Stone.
00:39:20.620 Roger, Troy, I'm glad to be with you guys. I, you know, I love doing this show with you. I love,
00:39:26.620 I love hearing from you guys and your take on everything.
00:39:30.620 Excellent. Well, you, of course, know Troy. Did you watch the president last night? And if so, how did you
00:39:38.620 size that up? Yes, I was watching it live on X with Nick Sorter and a bunch of guys on X Spaces. I
00:39:46.620 thought it was absolutely abysmal, and not for the reasons that one might think. Obviously, we
00:39:50.620 had the gap where he called President Trump, Vice President Trump, and a few other gaps in there. I
00:39:57.620 want to talk particularly about the fact that he is so weak on foreign policy. He made that very clear
00:40:02.620 very clear last night. He was talking about the fact that he's not even willing to talk to Vladimir Putin
00:40:08.620 unless Vladimir Putin changes. There is a sect of Democrats who, for some reason, will say that
00:40:14.620 Joe Biden has the strongest foreign policy of all presidents in the United States of America history.
00:40:20.620 We all know that's a lie. That was made clear last night for many people that that is not true.
00:40:26.620 Because of the fact that he's not willing to talk to Vladimir Putin, it was actually very clear the
00:40:32.620 last time that he did talk to Vladimir Putin, things didn't go far. Compare that to how President Trump
00:40:38.620 was with foreign policy. He actually made an effort to go and talk to world leaders. He went to North
00:40:44.620 Korea to go to talk to North Korea's dictator, Kim Jong-un. And even though things didn't go the way that
00:40:56.620 President Trump really wanted, he still continued to have those meetings to try to get those admissions
00:41:02.620 that President Trump wanted. Biden isn't doing that. He's not doing that whatsoever. He's actually doing
00:41:10.620 it in refusing to engage in diplomacy, which is very dangerous for the United States of America.
00:41:16.620 I found it interesting in the debates when he said that he was the guy who shut Putin down. Where
00:41:22.620 has Putin been shut down? Hundreds of thousands of both Russians and Ukrainians have died. There's no let
00:41:30.620 up in the relentless assault on Ukraine, which is based on the violation of two individual agreements
00:41:40.620 that we signed with the Soviets, the Budapest Memorandum and the Minsk Accord. Joe Biden lists the
00:41:48.620 expansion of NATO as one of his accomplishments. We signed an agreement not to push Ukraine further
00:41:54.620 east into NATO. In other words, not to mount missiles on the ground in Ukraine pointed at Russia. Even
00:42:04.700 Robert F. Kennedy said this yesterday in a tweet. You know, this is very analogous to the Russians putting
00:42:11.580 missiles in Cuba in 1962, 90 miles from our shores aimed at the United States. Right now, many military
00:42:21.020 experts believe that the Russian submarines that are in the Gulf of Mexico off the shore
00:42:27.420 of Florida are equipped with long range missiles. How has any of this made us safer? None of it has
00:42:36.380 made us safer. You also remind me that a story that Donald Trump told me that both when he met with
00:42:44.860 Barack Obama and he met with Bill Clinton privately when he was still president-elect, they both said,
00:42:50.780 your biggest number one problem is North Korea. This guy's a madman. He's this close to having
00:42:57.100 nuclear capability. And Trump said, OK, well, what is he saying? And they said, well, what do you mean,
00:43:01.980 what is he saying? Well, what is he saying? Well, we're not talking to him. We don't know what he's saying.
00:43:07.900 And Trump understood immediately that you're better off talking to an enemy who might have the ability to
00:43:13.180 destroy you to kind of figure out where they're coming from or how you might talk them out of it.
00:43:18.140 Then then this this cold freeze, which hasn't worked, obviously. Now, of course, the North Koreans
00:43:27.100 seeing the weakness of Joe Biden in Afghanistan, seeing his the stupidity of funding both sides of
00:43:34.540 the conflict in the Middle East, giving billions of dollars, unfreezing billions of dollars for the
00:43:40.620 Iranians. North Korea is back to developing their nuclear weapons systems because they know they
00:43:46.380 have a patsy in the White House. Weakness breeds aggression in your foes during the Trump presidency.
00:43:57.660 I would argue that neither Vladimir Putin nor Chairman Xi were going to move on Ukraine and Taiwan,
00:44:06.300 respectively, because of the unpredictable reaction they would get from Donald Trump,
00:44:11.660 who warned both of them in the strongest possible terms. Troy, go ahead. Alex, you go.
00:44:23.340 I think it's very obvious where we are in our country. We're not we're not safe whatsoever because
00:44:28.780 of the fact that we have a patsy, as you said, Roger, in the White House right now. Under President Trump,
00:44:34.380 he would go to foreign adversaries. He would give them a picture of their house and say,
00:44:39.740 if you touch any American, you're done. That's the kind of thing that we had under President Trump.
00:44:46.620 We were safe under him because they didn't know what he would do. Actually, they probably did know
00:44:51.740 what they would do. The fact that they would get totally demolished.
00:44:54.460 I think you raised an excellent point. All right, Troy, you're up.
00:45:02.060 Well, Alex, I think you hit the nail on the head here when you're talking about the weakness displayed
00:45:06.620 around the world. And I wanted to ask your opinion. We saw a couple of days ago that President Biden
00:45:11.740 begged NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg to stay in Washington, D.C., and he awarded him actually
00:45:20.620 the highest civilian honor that we have in this country, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. We
00:45:25.020 talked about it here. We raised questions whether it's actually legal to give the highest civilian
00:45:30.380 honor to somebody who isn't a citizen of this country. But I wonder what you thought about that,
00:45:36.940 because this is the same guy that President Trump took to task as far as it concerns Russian energy
00:45:42.940 pouring into Germany while U.S. tax dollars are protecting Germany from Russia.
00:45:49.100 I think it's absolutely abysmal. The fact that President Biden is willing to give the highest
00:45:54.780 civilian honor to someone who isn't even part of our country so he can get them to stay at this
00:46:00.380 meeting, it's absolutely terrible. It's a joke. The United States of America is a joke all across the
00:46:06.060 world. And it's because of our president, the person who thinks that Donald Trump is his vice
00:46:13.020 president, the person that thinks he shut down Putin. This man is losing his mind. You know, I said this
00:46:21.340 last night on X basis with with Nick Sorter. When when when Joe Biden was elected, we all knew that he was
00:46:28.060 that he was senile, that he was not in it. He was he wasn't going to be able to be successful because of
00:46:35.020 his mental state. I said that when he got elected, his brain was like a bunch of mushy apples. And
00:46:42.460 it's come to the point where it's no longer that it's applesauce at this point. That's what we're
00:46:47.500 dealing with in the White House right now. An excellent point. Look, I do think it's important
00:46:55.820 to tamp down overconfidence in our own camp. I mean, we do see a situation in which the Democrat
00:47:04.140 Party, not only do they have the issue of Joe Biden's infirmity. One thing is certain if they
00:47:11.980 do end up sticking with him as their candidate. It's only a matter of time before he has another
00:47:18.380 gaffe or falls down or wanders off or shakes hands with imaginary people that don't actually exist or
00:47:27.660 comes up with his own language that only he can understand. It's really there is no chance.
00:47:34.060 The other issue I'd raise is Biden and Trump both agreed to an ABC debate on September 10th. What is
00:47:40.780 the status of that debate? Is that debate still on? If I were Trump, I would be beating this drum.
00:47:47.020 Joe, when are we having our next debate? I'm ready. Now, he did do it in an excellent posting
00:47:53.180 at True Social the other day, but there's already a debate on the books. Is Joe going to make that
00:47:58.220 debate? Is Joe interested in maybe doing it sooner than September 10th? To the extent that the Democrats
00:48:06.700 are melting down in a way worse than anything we've seen since their split over the Vietnam War,
00:48:13.260 1968. And I generally believe Napoleon's maxim that you should never interrupt your enemy when
00:48:21.420 they are in the course of destroying themselves or the process of destroying themselves. I do think
00:48:27.180 Trump has been wise to continue to challenge Joe to a debate. I was very disappointed that Joe now
00:48:35.260 won't follow through on his challenge to play golf with Donald Trump. He said he wanted to play 18
00:48:41.420 rounds with him. He made a joke about Trump carrying his own bag. So when Trump called his bluff and said,
00:48:48.700 OK, Joe, when are we teeing off? Joe's campaign put out a statement that they didn't have time for
00:48:54.620 Trump's antics. Trump's antics? No, Joe, you're the one who challenged Trump to a game of golf. I would
00:49:02.140 say they were your antics. You said you had a six handicap. Joe, you can't hit the ball 50 feet.
00:49:09.500 We all know that if you can even hit the ball. So and Trump, no matter what he may tell you before
00:49:15.740 the betting starts, he is a scratch golfer. He's an amazing athlete. So it's once again,
00:49:23.340 yet another Joe Biden lie. That's the thing about Joe Biden. He is the greatest single congenital liar
00:49:30.300 in American politics. You go to Stone's Zone right now. And there's a I think my lead piece
00:49:36.060 just goes through all of the lies, not only the ones he told at the debate, recycling the sucker
00:49:42.620 and losers lie that Trump never said about American veterans who had given their lives recycling the
00:49:49.660 Trump said the Nazis are good people in Charlottesville. Another lie even debunked by scopes
00:49:55.740 that there were fewer illegal border crossings under Biden than under Trump. A lie that he inherited 15%
00:50:04.140 inflation. It was 6.3. A lie that no American service person died on his watch. Has he completely forgotten
00:50:15.580 Afghanistan? Yet another lie. No women have babies in the eighth or ninth month of pregnancy.
00:50:25.500 A lie. I mean, this guy lies constantly. And then when he was on with George Stephanopoulos,
00:50:32.220 when he's trying to make excuses for his poor debate performance, he said, well, you know,
00:50:37.900 Trump kept shouting at me after they cut his microphone off and I let it distract me. I guess
00:50:44.940 I'm not putting that up as an excuse. I invite you gentlemen to go back and look at the video.
00:50:49.660 That never happened. Not even once. Trump never tried to talk over him. Not even once. Trump knew
00:50:55.740 the microphones were allegedly turned off or would be. So the guy can't even tell the truth about that.
00:51:02.940 He's with a group of Puerto Ricans. Suddenly he's a Puerto Rican ancestry. He's with a bunch of
00:51:09.420 Orthodox Jews. He grew up in the synagogues of Wilmington, except for he didn't. He talks to a
00:51:16.220 group of truck drivers and he used to be a truck driver. Or then he was teaching law school, but he
00:51:21.580 never actually taught law school. And he graduated at the top of his class. But in fact, he graduated
00:51:27.900 at the bottom of his class. This guy is unbelievable. And they call Trump a liar? See, what they say is
00:51:35.340 because you won't agree with their narrative January 6th, that's a lie. No, that's the truth.
00:51:41.500 Because you won't agree with their narrative of their lawfare tsunami against him, they say that's
00:51:51.740 a lie. No, that's the truth. But the idea that all the Democrats, even the ones who are for Biden
00:51:58.380 staying and staying and those who are for his going, they're all united in their talking points,
00:52:02.700 which are Trump's a liar, which is not his platform, and trying yet again, ignoring the facts,
00:52:14.300 to tie him to Jeffrey Epstein when it was the Clintons who were taking money from and traveling and
00:52:20.140 visiting Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction for sex crimes in Florida. They have no campaign,
00:52:27.420 they have nothing to run on. So it is 100% negative. Alex, your thoughts?
00:52:35.580 Now, I want to go off of what you were saying about the lies and whatnot. I think you mentioned
00:52:40.140 this the other day, another, I guess, lie or death or whatever. I think it's in the same area. But when
00:52:45.820 he was in Pennsylvania talking about how it was Pennsylvania that got him over the line when he ran
00:52:50.780 for Senate, that doesn't even make sense because he was a senator from Delaware. How in the world is
00:52:55.900 that possible? I thought that was absolutely comical. Once again, Joe Biden is a joke. There is no
00:53:04.780 campaign that this man has, except for, like you said, Trump's Project 2025, which he's not affiliated
00:53:12.300 with in any way, shape or form. Project 2025 and President Trump have both said that they're not
00:53:18.220 involved with each other. And it's just a lie after lie after lie after lie. When are the American
00:53:28.380 people going to wake up to this? Do you think they will, Roger, soon?
00:53:31.580 I think they already have. I think that's why these polls are so close. Now you add to that
00:53:38.140 Joe's infirmity is the fact that he's clearly in rapid mental deterioration, as certified by the
00:53:47.340 special counsel in his own Justice Department. I think we know the answer to your question. All
00:53:53.660 right. I'm afraid we have to leave it there. I want to thank my nephew, Alex Stone. Tell us about your
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00:56:01.340 from there. In the meantime, God bless you and Godspeed.
00:56:04.860 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, and he's smart, and he's strong, and people
00:56:13.500 love him. Not everybody, but people love him and respect him. Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?
00:56:34.860 a brother Stone?
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