With only weeks to go before the 2024 presidential election, the campaign of Kamala Harris seems to be dealing with problems with what should be, historically, her base. The truth is, there s empirical polling evidence that shows that Donald Trump is making deep inroads into both African American and Hispanic voters, who heretofore have been some of the most reliable elements of the Democratic voting coalition. They even had to go to their heaviest surrogate, President Barack Obama, in an effort to shore up their dwindling support among Black male voters. Here to help me break this down is my friend R.C. Maxwell, who is with Turning Point USA and a frequent contributor to the New York Times and CNN. He joins me to talk about what s going on, and why it s a problem, and how to fix it. This episode is brought to you by The Stone Zone, a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters, courtesy of Lotuspool Records, and our ad music is by Build Buildings Records. Please take a few minutes to fill out our anonymous donor survey. We'll be giving out $5 and $10,000 to the winner will get a copy of the book, "I Am Who I Think I Really Am?" The book is available in Kindle, iBook, Podchaser, Paperback, and Hardcover, and also on Audible, and will be available on VHS, Betchronicity, and Airdrover, Inc., in paperback, and in AudioBook, and so much more. Thank you for listening to this podcast? Subscribe to the podcast and share it on your local podcast! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts? Subscribe on Podchronic? Subscribe to my Insta-file? You can be reached by and I'll get a chance to review it on the next episode on the Podchival, and other places I'll be spreading the podcasting platform? Thanks to VaynerSpeaker, I'll have a great deal of the great work out there -- Thank you, Mr. Roger Stone, The Stonezone? -- Thank You, & much more! -- Veeeeeeeeee - Thank you to Mr. Stone, Sr. & Mr. Burt & Co. -- The Big Bird, Thank Me, Thank Me & The Good Morninger, etc. -
00:14:45.500I'm from Inglewood, the last black enclave in California.
00:14:49.500But I hadn't saw that interview in quite depth.
00:14:53.500And it definitely just goes to show you that Kamala Harris from the start was using her attorney's general's office not to run the office as she should to the benefit of citizens of California.
00:15:06.500But she was running it in hindsight, thinking about how she could elevate her political career, just as when she was in the district attorney's office, she was always looking for the next job.
00:15:16.500That's why she had a very poor reputation in the district attorney's office before she ran for AG.
00:15:22.500This is Kamala Harris. She is a political opportunist.
00:15:25.500And I think that's great that you brought up how President Trump was actually the first to support cannabis legalization.
00:15:32.500He made lots of comments about its positive economic benefits at large.
00:15:36.500He made lots of comments about the tax benefits and how it could fund public education.
00:15:42.500You just pointed to some of the medical benefits.
00:15:45.500But now Kamala, obviously, in a desperate plea for votes, has shamefully lumped this in to like a black policy.
00:15:53.500There's nothing specific that necessarily you need to mention black people in this issue unless you're, of course, citing data and you're talking about criminalization and how, you know, generally black Americans are suffering from marijuana penalties than other Americans are.
00:16:08.500But that's not what Kamala is mentioning.
00:16:10.500She's saying this is going to be a financial success story for black Americans kind of, you know, bringing up images of Jay-Z on the corner, you know, making money from selling weed.
00:16:21.500Does she expect people like me to all of a sudden to say, you know what, I'm going to open up a weed shop because weed is now federally legal?
00:16:29.500It's very offensive from Kamala Harris, and it just kind of goes to show you how much of a political opportunist she is, not supporting cannabis legalization for the reasons Donald Trump is, the tax benefits, the economic benefits, the pragmatic thinking.
00:16:44.500No, she is using this as a caricature against black men.
00:16:48.500And she's going to find out overwhelmingly, a lot of black men are very anti weed.
00:16:53.500Sure, there may be a lot of criminalizations from the same population, the same group of black people reoffending.
00:16:59.500But there's a lot of people like my dad and people in my family, they hate pot.
00:17:03.500They hate when certain relatives come back from Thanksgiving at that hour, you know, smelling like the good stuff, for lack of a better term.
00:17:12.500So they're going to find out that black Americans aren't a monolith.
00:17:15.500And I tell you, Roger, this is going to be embarrassing.
00:17:18.500When we look back at this election in hindsight, you think of Mitt Romney, his binders full of women.
00:17:23.500You know, you think of, you know, certain moments in presidential history where an election was lost.
00:17:28.500And you're going to look at Barack Obama being trotted out on the campaign trail, shaming black men.
00:17:34.500And then Kamala coming out with a policy of weed legalization a few days later in a lazy attempt to captivate black voters.
00:17:42.500We're going to look back at this and say, you know what, this isn't a moment where we should have knew and should have saw that the wheels were falling off.
00:17:49.500And according to the poly market, the political betting market, the wheels are falling off.
00:17:55.500First of all, not only has Trump come out in favor of Amendment 3, which is legalization of cannabis with regulation in Florida.
00:18:04.500But he also signed into law amendments to the Farm Bill, which legalized the hemp industry, which is a $345 billion industry, which has created tens of thousands of jobs.
00:18:19.500Hemp can be used to make all kinds of things, fabric, cement, as well as being used recreationally.
00:18:27.500And this is something else I think, frankly, he doesn't get credit for, the enormous economic benefits.
00:18:34.500Now, the previous high watermark among black Americans in a presidential race, interestingly enough, is held by Richard Nixon in 1960.
00:18:45.500Despite the fact that I think Nixon fumbled the arrest of Dr. Martin Luther King in Alabama and declined to get involved in that case, he felt as a lawyer that would have been inappropriate.
00:19:01.500Jack Kennedy had his brother, Robert Kennedy, call the judge in Alabama and urge him to release Dr. King.
00:19:11.500When that happened, Dr. Martin Luther King Sr., who was a Republican and a supporter of Vice President Nixon, switched his support to John Kennedy.
00:19:22.500And despite all of that, Richard Nixon got about a third of the African American vote in 1960, a previous high watermark.
00:19:31.500If you were looking at the polls and everything you know, where do you think, as of today, and I recognize we still have several weeks to go, but where do you think President Trump ends up among African Americans?
00:19:46.260Well, look, you know, to get, you know, to get, you know, to get 15%, 16% would be huge, and would certainly be devastating, but I believe that the ceiling is actually a little bit higher for that.
00:20:02.940I think President Trump can actually capture 25% of the Black vote, which would be huge, and that's certainly the goal.
00:20:10.480When you look at the data from even the NAACP, you know, they're finding that, you know, one in four individuals who are African American are leaning toward Donald Trump.
00:20:22.220When you look at the at-large, the data, almost nearly 50% of young African Americans actually support President Trump.
00:20:31.520There's an article in NPR that I was actually involved in, you can, it was from August, where there's a huge data breakdown of Black voters.
00:20:40.220I urge everyone to check that out so they can kind of really understand the interesting metrics here for African American voters.
00:20:46.600Just consider, for example, if you look at any other demographic, and you look after old voters and their young voters, the old voters are going to tend to be more conservative, and the young voters are going to lean left.
00:20:57.300This is only inverted when you look at African American voters.
00:21:01.520The older voters tend to more lean Democrat, and the younger voters are leaning toward Trump.
00:21:08.660That means that their base is dying out, literally, and that means that, you know, they're not doing anything to captivate young voters, because young voters who are critical thinkers are really kind of analyzing, you know, why would we reward political ineptitude with our vote?
00:21:22.740So I really think that 25% is a realistic goal.
00:21:28.180And we're doing all we can at Turning Point Action.
00:21:30.820And I know some of our sister organizations, like the Pennsylvania Chase and Early Vote Action, America First Works, they're doing the same and work in states like Georgia, Pennsylvania.
00:21:40.840We're in Philly, you know, we're in Pittsburgh, we're in Milwaukee, I'm getting out the Black vote.
00:21:45.600And the returns are very, very positive.
00:21:49.120You know, some of the few hesitations out there, they're largely symbolic.
00:21:53.540They're largely, you know, some antidote story.
00:21:56.500You know, they heard something about Trump and the Central Park Five.
00:21:59.880And, you know, there's going to be those few pockets, in which case, they're surprised to learn the facts.
00:22:05.800When I talk to them about this and say, hey, you know, everyone, you know, thought these kids were guilty.
00:22:11.040And these kids were actually known for doing a lot of bad things in the park.
00:22:14.260They weren't completely, you know, innocent kids.
00:25:21.560And Donald Trump has a good plan to give it to them.
00:25:24.960This is something else I think we need to highlight that I think is vitally important for Black voters to know.
00:25:32.200And then, of course, I am a little surprised.
00:25:35.540Reports this morning, early voting in Georgia, voting among Black women is up, based on a comparison in this same time period, almost 248 percent.
00:25:51.200I do think that this idea that all Black women are for Kamala Harris is not true.
00:25:59.080Anybody who's seen that documentary we just showed you, I think, would have second thoughts.
00:26:04.500Why don't we wrap this up by saying also that we here at Stone Zone certainly appreciate the great work that Turning Point is doing,
00:26:12.560along with Cliff Maloney and the Pennsylvania Chase and all of those sister organizations who are on the ground in all of these swing states,
00:26:23.580not only registering people, but now making sure that those who have been registered vote.
00:26:29.900Tell us just quickly what Turning Point is doing in this area.
00:26:35.640Yeah, we're certainly trying to convince everyone to vote early.
00:26:38.840You know, this is something that we haven't necessarily pushed in the past.
00:26:41.680We've always been proud of the fact that we swamped Democrats on Election Day.
00:26:46.020But we now know that local Democrat election officials will let a pipe burst or they'll let long lines take up and, you know, cause people to get out of lines.
00:26:59.220We were engaging voters multiple times, multiple touch points.
00:27:03.700And we're also specifically targeting, you know, some of the hardest voters to reach.
00:27:09.280You know, the people who usually stay on the sidelines, people who's missed a couple of elections, either a primary or a general.
00:27:15.520You know, we're really talking to those folks.
00:27:17.160And we're just really having a really intense ground game in these states.
00:27:20.780Another thing I'd like to add in terms of President Trump's successes, though, to the Black community was opportunity zones.
00:27:26.040President Trump gave Cory Booker and a lot of Democrat senators what they were angling for for years, which is the creations of tax liabilities, tax benefits for investments into opportunity zones, zones that were deemed as ineffective, low producing, struggling.
00:27:42.200And a lot of those zones were black areas, and they got a lot of tax benefits for investment in those communities.
00:27:49.720That was a success that President Trump also actually passed.
00:27:53.060So part of his platinum plan was to expand upon that, which would have been a huge bust for some of the communities that you currently see struggling.
00:28:00.300So a turning point is we have a lot of people who know these stats and are essentially engaging with voters.
00:28:07.680And look, you know, there were a lot of people, for whatever reason, they were turned off in 2020.
00:28:12.060You know, a lot of very elderly people, you know, maybe people who thought President Trump were toxic.
00:28:17.660Those are the people that we've been focusing on, and we have been winning bigly.
00:28:48.380All right, folks, you may have seen this, or maybe you didn't,
00:28:52.520but I spoke to the Jacksonville Young Republicans about a month ago, and in my remarks, I said I believed that there were as many as one million non-existent voters on the voting rolls in swing states.
00:29:07.580These would be voters who have died, voters who have moved out of state, or voters that never actually existed to begin with.
00:29:15.300People registered to post office boxes, which is normally illegal, people registered to vacant lots, undeveloped land, or people registered to non-residential buildings.
00:29:28.360People who, when they're mailed, they come back, those mailings come back addressee unknown and undeliverable.
00:29:36.220I was immediately attacked for seeking to disenfranchise a million voters, which, of course, is not even remotely what I said.
00:29:46.160Joining me now is a man who's an expert on the voter rolls and a major, major activist in the area of election integrity.
00:29:55.820Chris Jersky of the People's Audit joins us now in the Stone Zone.
00:30:14.600You have a really superior understanding of the technology necessary to analyze these voter files, which, of course, are public records.
00:30:25.820So talk to us about, first of all, how many non-existent voters you think are on the rolls in these swing states.
00:30:34.660And what is being done quite legally and technically to ensure that the voter rolls are clean and that only people who are actually eligible to vote are able to vote?
00:30:47.800Well, starting back about three months, a troubling pattern started to happen in all the states that we were monitoring.
00:30:54.900Specifically, Florida was the one that we touted the most because we cleaned off about 1.2 million people out of that.
00:31:03.360I believe a million of that was around—or just under a million was Democrats, and a quarter of a million of that was NPAs.
00:31:10.620And that was specifically honing in on just bad addresses.
00:31:16.280We just wanted the addresses to be proved as valid.
00:31:19.460And that's what resulted in that cleaning.
00:31:22.200But about three months back, we saw an attorney where we just started seeing huge volumes of new voters being added back into the voter rolls, and they have suspicious activity, both with bad addresses as well as older registration dates.
00:31:37.460So, for example, somebody might have come back in August with a 1992 registration date, and we have—because we have about 28 months' worth of data in Florida, we were able to see that these people come back just for elections, and then they get removed shortly after an election.
00:31:54.940So, we have some examples that they were voting in primaries as well as the general and being deleted.
00:32:00.720They're added maybe two months or the month of, and then they're deleted either the month of or the month after.
00:32:07.680Now, when you get this data, what do you do with it?
00:32:12.680Specifically, we're just taking every month and we're comparing it to the previous month and watching for what's changed.
00:32:19.000So, we're specifically looking to see what new voters weren't on the voter rolls the previous month per the public data.
00:32:25.660And that will give a specific report that will tell us exactly if that voter existed.
00:32:30.520Plus, because we have all of this data on hand for multiple states, we could literally show in our reports if this person was on the voter rolls and when.
00:32:39.040So, if somebody was normally registered, you would assume that they were just on the voter rolls every month going forward through the elections and even afterwards.
00:32:46.440But we see this troubling pattern where some of the older registrations were like they registered in 1992.
00:32:52.720That means that these people should be on the voter rolls consistently every month.
00:32:56.960But in fact, they're basically being added two months before the election.
00:33:01.160And the thing that's very scary about that is if an official is looking at this data, they'll never pick up on that.
00:33:08.920Because to them, they'll just appear as an older voter because they have an older registration date.
00:33:13.820The state doesn't do anything like we do with these audits to check to see what's actually being injected into the voter rolls every month.
00:33:22.580So, once you have that information, do you approach the election boards with it?
00:33:30.840How do you stop people who aren't really eligible to vote from voting?
00:33:36.320It's a complicated process, and really we want to hear the locals' response to this first.
00:33:46.840In weird cases, you might have unprotected voters, people that were – I'm sorry, protected voters, people that were sheriffs, judges, attorney generals maybe, that might be unshielded and being coming back on the voter rolls.
00:33:59.180So, there might be some excuses for it happening, and of course, we don't want to ruin any privacy as well as bring any attention to these possibilities of happening.
00:34:09.640So, first thing is we go forward into the locals, and we have our local teams and the counties and basically approach them to make sure that that is a legitimate ad.
00:34:19.680And first of all, the locals should know it's happening because it's happening behind their back in some cases.
00:34:26.520So, that's a complicated process, and that takes a while because they want to investigate it and see what exactly is happening there.
00:34:32.060We have a couple states that are looking into the ones that we found so far.
00:34:36.300And then the next thing is if they can't explain it or we don't get a response back, then we try to make that public,
00:34:42.580which we're probably going to be making public, the ones in North Carolina and Georgia here shortly because there's absolutely no response to anything that we've brought forward in those two states.
00:34:52.480Troubling thing about North Carolina is that storm that just impacted there, we just saw huge amounts of voters being added in the last three months in North Carolina.
00:35:17.400So, I'm sure you have followed events here in Virginia where the governor issued an executive order saying that people who are not citizens and therefore are not eligible to vote should not be allowed to vote.
00:35:33.220This is not some new policy, as the governor has pointed out.
00:35:36.320That has been the policy of the state of Virginia, and the state has tried to purge such non-eligible voters from the rolls.
00:35:46.180Now, the Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia, saying that these questionable registrants are being removed from the rolls too close to an election.
00:35:59.460I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how they justify wanting to keep people who aren't eligible on the rolls.
00:36:11.520It's a big finger-pointing game, as far as I can see so far.
00:36:17.880We've brought this up multiple times in Florida to court bird for over two years now, and it's been ignored.
00:36:25.020And then now, all of a sudden, close to the election, they act like there's nothing they can do.
00:36:28.920It boggles my mind because my own wife is Venezuelan, and we went through the green card process when we got married back in 1999, and I myself saw them push the registration application over to her just after they just got done seeing her green card and giving her a driver's license with all of her valid forms of new ID.
00:36:49.660And I asked them at that point, like, why are you even asking her to register if you know for a fact she's not a citizen?
00:36:56.000So everybody has that capability of checking these things at a local level.
00:37:00.640It boggles my mind for the excuse of, oh, well, we have to check with DHS.
00:37:05.360They're sitting there right in front of you with an ID.
00:37:08.640If they're showing you a green card as their proof of identity, they're obviously not a citizen.
00:37:14.380And then later, they'll be naturalized.
00:37:16.000I went through that process as well, where after my wife was naturalized, we brought her paperwork in, and then we got her registered with proof of citizenship.
00:37:24.520So the states have full capability of watching for this.
00:37:28.640But then you have the situation, like you saw here in Virginia and I think Alabama as well, where now the federal government is coming down and cracking down on removing people.
00:37:39.180So first, A, how did these people get on the voter rolls to begin with if our processes were correct?
00:37:45.200And then B, why is the federal government now basically coming down and saying you can't remove them?
00:37:50.340It's a big like that Spider-Man meme where they're like pointing the fingers at each other, trying to blame each other.
00:37:55.920But in reality, they're both culpable.
00:37:57.680The other one that surprises me here is Arizona, where we seem to be fighting over some, I think it's 218,000 known illegals that are on their state voting list.
00:38:11.020The secretary of state is fighting to leave them on the list so they're eligible to vote.
00:38:16.820So it really boggles the mind that they keep, first of all, they imply that we're trying to disenfranchise legitimate voters.
00:38:24.700Not our intention, not what we're trying to do, not what we're advocating in the slightest.
00:38:30.540The idea, you know this, that Florida has the gold standard in terms of clean elections is simply not true based on the actual voter files.
00:38:43.160When I went to vote in the last election, there was a short line, I voted on election day, and the man in front of me presented his ID, and he was told that he had already voted.
00:38:58.400But he hadn't voted, and he was curious, let's say his name was Joe Brown, and he said, let me ask a question, he said to the nice lady working there.
00:39:09.940He said, do you have an Alma Brown registered at the same address?
00:39:13.880And she said, oh, yes, she voted this morning as well.
00:39:21.920The idea that Florida has the cleanest, pristine election mechanism and voter rolls is simply not true.
00:39:33.360You have worked tirelessly, along with the great folks at the Florida Republican Assembly, to get fairer, more honest, more transparent elections here in the Sunshine State.
00:39:46.460But you're also very active in several other states.
00:39:49.980I know you've been very active in Texas.
00:39:53.300Tell us where else the people's audit is working.
00:39:58.720Hearn, we went very deep into North Carolina and Georgia, as well as Texas.
00:40:04.780We have a great team on the ground in Texas that really has been taking the ball by themselves.
00:40:09.160But because of how important Georgia and North Carolina is, we really went deeper into mail-in ballots, trying to understand process, as well as building out all kinds of things to monitor that coming into this next election.
00:40:21.880But right now, once we have all these things up, we're going to be rolling out these other states as well.
00:40:28.380It's just a matter of standing up the states.
00:40:30.560But the real time that we took into the last three months was looking into mail-in ballots because it's just that is, like you just mentioned, how are they getting these people to vote if they're dead?
00:40:39.320The only way they can do it is through mail.
00:40:41.600And if you looked at, generally speaking, like if this was a business, somebody would be getting arrested because there are so many loopholes and such a lack of due diligence on anything when it comes to mail-in ballots.
00:40:57.340That is where the majority of the fraud is happening.
00:41:00.620I feel like they're just basically stealing people's identities that they watch over and see that, oh, this is a low active voter that might just be inspired now because of Trump and want to come out and vote.
00:41:12.560And then they find out they already have voted.
00:41:15.040And then the state's response to that is to pat them on the head and give them a provisional ballot.
00:41:19.900And we've looked into the provisional ballot situation.
00:41:23.640There is zero logs on the reason you're getting a provisional ballot.
00:41:29.720They never call you back up and say that they've rectified the issue or anything.
00:41:33.580It's just literally a part of the steal process where I really feel that they just did that just to basically give somebody to fill out so they don't go out and fill out a police report.
00:41:43.720My personal opinion, they should be calling the non-emergency number at the polling station and asking to file a police report for stolen identities.
00:41:56.960And that would be at least some kind of outside source where we could now track police reports for people's identities being stolen.
00:42:04.020Because every time after the election, we asked how many provisional ballots were filled out for that particular case you just mentioned, and they're like, none, because they don't have any distinction.
00:42:14.980They just say we have 20 provisional ballots at this precinct, but there's no reason of why they got a provisional ballot.
00:42:21.800Well, and as you know, here in the state of Florida, thanks to a series of so-called election law reforms supported by Republicans in the legislature and signed into law by Governor DeSantis, the process is actually more opaque than it was.
00:42:39.220It's a felony to harass an election official.
00:42:42.920But the problem with that is asking simple questions, maybe asking the same question twice, is suddenly defined as harassment.
00:42:50.620Also, elections can only be challenged by election board members.
00:42:55.640They can't be challenged by average citizens.
00:42:58.620So these election reforms put in place in the Sunshine State have not been helpful.
00:43:04.140I know we only have you for a few more minutes, Chris.
00:43:06.260I appreciate you jumping in here at late notice.
00:43:09.800The Democrats seem to have mounted this enormous effort to register people who are out of the country without, again, checking for any proof.
00:43:31.480But as I lump this all together with mail, it's basically just another form of the abuse in the mail-in ballots.
00:43:37.720The Yubikaibo votes, which you're referring to, the out-of-state international people, they don't have to do anything but go to a website and fill out a form saying that they lived previously at an address.
00:43:51.080I always thought that it was residency.
00:43:53.320I myself have friends that are expatriates, and they haven't been in the country for four or five years at a time.
00:44:00.200But the thing is, is like why are they allowed to vote in a local race if they're not participating, they're not living, they're not residents there anymore?
00:44:12.720Military is a perfect example of people that are protected and they're allowed to vote because they're out on deployment.
00:44:19.620And they have a reason for being out-of-state, and most of the time it's involuntary.
00:44:24.640But the big thing about these international folks, they've now chosen to live overseas.
00:44:29.580They're essentially, that's their residency.
00:44:31.960I have no idea why they're asking for mail-in ballots.
00:44:35.540And more importantly, what we found in this Yubikaibo system is because when we watch it over time through the election, you can literally see the address change at the last minute right for the election.
00:44:47.180So, for example, I had one example where someone requested a ballot in China, I believe it was for the 2022 election, the primary, and they shone as voting through the Yubikaibo system in China.
00:45:00.440And then right before the election, their address flipped back to being a city in Florida.
00:45:04.880So, it's like if you're looking at the final result, they look like they're voting from the state when, in fact, if you're watching over time, these are Yubikaibo votes that the people are abusing.
00:45:16.380That system has hardly any checks and balances on identity.
00:45:21.200You just have to fill out an online form and you send in an email or a fax to represent your vote.
00:45:27.580And you can imagine how that can get abused if there's no checks on identity or as well as basically if that person really is a citizen or not.
00:45:38.560Last time I was in Nevada, just before an election, a man came up to me after I spoke and he had five ballots.
00:45:47.340They were all addressed to the same address, but to five different people.
00:46:06.100I don't think any of these people still live in the state of Nevada or perhaps they're not still living.
00:46:11.620If I were dishonest, I could mail in all of these votes, but I'm not even going to use my own mail and I'm going to go vote in person.
00:46:19.420Deeply disturbing to me when you look at the polls, Donald Trump holding a very narrow but appears to be growing lead.
00:46:25.900In the silver state, yet this is a state that automatically mails a ballot to every voter on the rolls, whether they have requested a mail-in ballot or not.
00:46:37.120I'm not sure what the answer to that is.
00:46:49.960The point about what you're saying about sending, that is the biggest travesty I've seen, and that's probably the biggest red flag that you have a problem with voter fraud in your state.
00:46:59.300The fact that they're just sending out ballots to anybody that doesn't request them, that tells you right away that, A, people might have moved away, information changes.
00:47:08.920We all know that the voter rolls are dirty.
00:47:11.640This will immediately cause a wave of undeliverable ballots.
00:47:15.780And most importantly about that, there's software that the printers use, like Runbeck and some of these other big printers, Cathedral that's here in Florida, and I believe Texas just recently moved their printing to New York, actually.
00:47:28.900So these printers, they're dealing with this bulk ad, like, for example, Florida might have about 3 million ballots that it mails out at the beginning of the general election.
00:47:38.480The printers are the first people in the line of this chain of custody that actually know who moved away, because there's a piece of software that's required when they go to fill out the postage that tells them that this person moved out.
00:47:53.280That's a normal piece of software that they use to save on postage normally, but the law requires all ballots be mailed out.
00:48:02.740But now you're communicating to a large printer that has the capability of being able to print and mail in ballots en masse.
00:48:11.380You can literally deliver, like we had in that case in, I think, Philadelphia or Pennsylvania, where they trucked in, like, 100-some-odd or 200-some-thousand ballots.
00:48:20.140That's where these things come into play.
00:48:25.840So when they start printing and sending everything out, we all know people move, things change, people die.
00:48:32.120There should be a cleanup process at the minimum every two years, but it should really be that you request it for every election if you want to be able to keep mail-in ballots.
00:48:42.260As far as I'm concerned, all mail-in ballots are subject to fraud.
00:48:45.160I would like to do away with them, except for in the cases of, like, military and first responders, people that have an excuse to vote absentee, the original absentee ballot.
00:48:58.240Oh, but as far as myself, if you want to learn more about what we do, the best place to go is the peoplesaudit.org, altogether, the peoplesaudit.org.
00:49:08.100And that website will have links to my social media as well as the ability to donate.
00:49:14.160If you feel moved by this, I'd appreciate donations because we have dedicated 100% of my business resources to doing all of this for the last four years.
00:49:22.360All right. I want to thank our guest, Chris Jersky, who's doing yeoman service here to make sure we have free, fair, honest, transparent elections.
00:49:32.580Chris, I want to thank you for jumping in here at the last minute.
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