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00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:09.560Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:13.920He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:19.520As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:25.160and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:30.560Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:35.900And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:43.300You know, I don't know the answer to your question, Owen, but I do know this.
00:00:47.080There's far more evidence to justify the impeachment of Joe Biden than ever existed to justify the two impeachments of Donald Trump.
00:00:56.440Paul Sperry at the New York Post did a terrific piece about the millions of dollars that went to various Biden family members from Russia, from Ukraine, from Romania, from China, and elsewhere.
00:01:10.920So, yes, I do think that the biggest problem is not the left-wing Democrats who want to make excuses and say none of this is real, or the laptop.
00:01:24.680Dan Goldman's still saying the laptop was tampered with.
00:01:29.160You know, perhaps Trump should have an African-American running mate.
00:01:33.260Well, but the candidate on the ticket who's winning African-American votes is Donald Trump.
00:01:38.940Others say, well, maybe you need a Hispanic on the ticket.
00:01:41.720But the polling already shows you the candidate that is going to win you Hispanic votes is Donald Trump.
00:01:47.360The one area we haven't moved is among women, which is why you might look at Tulsi Gabbard, as I said, or Elise Stefanik, who let's say she's proven that she's tough on nails, as nails, taking on a number of these corrupt judges in New York.
00:02:03.040The living legend with a jacket that probably only one man in the history of American media could pull off, and that man is Roger Stone.
00:03:16.080I have a lot of great memories, particularly about our accomplishments.
00:03:20.880You and I broke the story of Fiona Hill.
00:03:24.000Fiona Hill was the State Department bureaucrat who was a key player in putting together the frame job in the Ukrainian impeachment attempt on Donald Trump.
00:03:51.620InfoWars has always been the tip of the spear.
00:03:55.880If you read my book, The Making of the President 2016, I make a very persuasive case that the endorsement of Donald Trump by Alex Jones and reporting on his campaign by InfoWars was a very key factor in his nomination, his improbable nomination in 2016.
00:04:16.280So we've achieved history here as well.
00:04:19.740Well, and I think that's one of the main reasons why InfoWars is being punished.
00:04:25.760You know, the American people aren't supposed to be deciding who becomes president.
00:04:29.720That's supposed to be the deep state and all its control factors, one of which now being censorship on social media, which you were way ahead of the threat there.
00:04:39.600But how much do you think the the shutdown of InfoWars has to do with with punishment for helping Trump get over the finish line in 2016?
00:04:48.080This has nothing to do with money whatsoever.
00:04:52.180Look, first, they went after General Flynn.
00:05:30.540Two of the most important alternative news outlets in the country that speak to the Trump base, particularly and to many of many hardworking Americans, InfoWars and the Epoch Times now under assault.
00:05:46.180And as much as I admire Elon Musk, and I do, and as grateful as I am to be back on his platform, I do find weird anomalies, not only in my own numbers, but in the numbers and views of other conservatives.
00:06:01.500So I have to wonder whether some of the old crew is still there, you know, playing games with us.
00:06:27.040And this is, as he said, bittersweet, bittersweet.
00:06:29.840Could be Roger's last time here on InfoWars.
00:06:33.300And really, I mean, Roger and me, the original host of this show in September 2017.
00:06:40.960So this is a bit of a historical moment, you might even say.
00:06:44.680You might even say a bit of a historical moment, myself and Roger, together yet again on The War Room.
00:06:49.480I want to pick it up where we left off in that short segment.
00:06:51.680You're talking about the things that you're seeing on X as far as maybe some shadow banning or engagement stifling, let's say.
00:07:01.520And I would say that you're 100% right.
00:07:03.720And my understanding from my experience is that a lot of the code that was there to shadow ban people like yourself and conservatives, Trump supporters, I think it still remains in the system.
00:07:25.060Okay, so when they censored my original account at All I Do Is Owen back in 20-whatever-it-was years ago, and when Elon Musk bought it, I started a new account, Owen Troyer 1776.
00:07:39.440Now, they have very similar amounts of followers, just shy of 200,000.
00:07:47.200But if I put something up on the old account, it gets like a quarter of the engagement or less than on the new account.
00:07:54.880So my understanding is that because I have a new account, it doesn't still have all that shadow banning code and whatever written into its existence, whereas the old account, it still does.
00:08:06.400And that's why it doesn't have the reach.
00:08:07.900So that's what I think is going on, Roger.
00:08:12.600Well, here's one thing that I noticed, Owen, and that is with the sentencing of Hunter Biden, many, many, many people have posted, well, Roger Stone and his wife evaded $2 million in taxes, and why wasn't he criminally prosecuted and so on?
00:08:26.940Now, I posted a long explanation of why a federal judge said that the tax case of my wife and I was like apples and oranges when compared to what Hunter Biden did.
00:08:38.700Hunter Biden failed to declare $10 million in income.
00:08:42.240But the U.S. attorney let that charge lapse in terms of the statute of limitations, whereas I and my wife reported every penny of income, every accurate asset, although somewhat meager.
00:08:57.580And in terms of evading taxes, I made eight years of monthly payments of about $19,000 a month.
00:09:06.940So three-quarters of what I owe the IRS is interest and penalties, but, of course, those facts are never told unless you tell them yourself.
00:09:15.320Anyway, the people accusing me of tax evasion are getting more traction than my response to the question.
00:09:23.240Well, that's pretty typical, and I wonder, though, I wonder – I'm sure there's still some bugs that they have built into shadowbanning your account and limiting its engagement based off of what was going on before Elon Musk took over.
00:09:36.580It's certainly not a perfect enterprise, but it is big.
00:09:39.940And so maybe I get into this with you now.
00:09:42.160You were way ahead of the curve in 2018 talking about Internet censorship.
00:09:49.600You were on other shows warning about how important this was going to be for election results.
00:09:54.400And ultimately, of course, you were proven right, specifically in the 2020 presidential election, with the FBI censoring important information like the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:10:01.840Where do you see that phenomenon right now with 145 days until the presidential election?
00:10:07.980Other than X, where it will be more limited, why would they not do the exact same thing they did before?
00:10:15.260I'm still banned for life on Facebook, even though there are many Roger Stoves on Facebook.
00:10:39.280I think you're going to have the same kind of stifling of free speech that we saw in the last elections.
00:10:44.660Facebook, the principal sites, the big sites.
00:10:48.500The only place I think we may break through, besides true social, of course, is to some degree Telegram and X, formerly known as Twitter.
00:10:59.580All right, let's get into now Republican strategy, because if there is going to be this 2024 censorship, it's going to be over the Biden crime family.
00:11:16.880But maybe before we kind of break into that, do you think the Republicans have any political strategy?
00:11:22.820I mean, there's no reason to think that they do because they haven't had it in the past.
00:11:26.980But when we look at what the House Oversight Committee has access to and what they're going to get more access to, when we look at the Judiciary Committee, I mean, they've got the Biden crime family caught red-handed.
00:11:39.380The last numbers I saw, it was like 170 shell corporations that the Biden crime family was operating.
00:11:45.400Not to mention all the bank accounts that they already have access to, more that they're getting access to, the funds going in and out through all these accounts, Joe Biden getting 10 percent of all these major transactions.
00:11:57.120To me, that's what's going to be censored coming up.
00:11:59.680But before we get into that, do you think there's a strategy on the Republican side to do an October surprise or to slowly leak this out over time to get more attention?
00:12:09.820I mean, are they strategizing on this at all?
00:12:13.820You know, I don't know the answer to your question, Owen, but I do know this.
00:12:17.580There's far more evidence to justify the impeachment of Joe Biden than ever existed to justify the two impeachments of Donald Trump.
00:12:26.900Paul Sperry at the New York Post did a terrific piece about the millions of dollars that went to various Biden family members from Russia, from Ukraine, from Romania, from China, and elsewhere.
00:12:42.380So, yes, I do think that the biggest problem is not the left-wing Democrats who want to make excuses and say none of this is real.
00:12:54.000Dan Goldman is still saying the laptop was tampered with.
00:13:03.200But the real problem is the gutless, feckless, weak-kneed, lily-livered, jelly-spined establishment Republicans who I don't think have the courage or the appetite for the removal of Joe Biden
00:13:21.720when he's clearly violated his oath of office and it appears to me like he's engaged in high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:13:29.340The problem is you can't get a Republican majority for that.
00:13:32.800The work of the Oversight Committee has actually been extraordinary, particularly Congressman Jason Smith and his efforts have been particularly extraordinary.
00:13:48.480We have an incredibly corrupt first family.
00:13:53.340And Hunter Biden being prosecuted for a gun crime is like prosecuting the guy for double parking who was driving the getaway car while you let the people who robbed the bank get away.
00:14:07.660I mean, why is he not being charged like Paul Manafort was, I think, unjustly, for lobbying for these foreign countries without filing?
00:14:17.600He received millions of dollars for them.
00:14:19.660He was affecting U.S. policy for them.
00:14:22.120Money laundering, influence peddling, child sex trafficking.
00:14:29.160If you look at the incredible work done by the Marco Polo USA organization and if you look at the actual laptop contents, it's shocking, to say the least.
00:14:41.200Yeah, I mean, the images and the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop, it's truly so sordid and disgusting.
00:14:50.640I don't even want to mention it, folks.
00:14:52.960I mean, if you haven't seen it, we're talking about Hunter Biden engaging in lewd and crude and potentially penetrating sex acts with individuals that, let's just say, look like they don't belong there or maybe people that he might even be related to.
00:15:09.520And so, again, I mean, this stuff is so disgusting, I really don't even want to talk about it.
00:15:14.440But do you think this is part of the strategy?
00:15:17.320I mean, do you even – if you're the Republicans, do you even want to take Joe Biden out at this point?
00:15:21.620Do you want Joe Biden running because he's such a pathetic candidate?
00:15:28.040If that's the case, though, then we need to make public as much of their corruption as we can.
00:15:34.420Look, we have this news cabal strategy of deflection.
00:15:44.900So Trump's being convicted in a cold, drafty Manhattan courtroom makes the fact that we just agreed to use American missiles to hit targets inside Russia.
00:15:59.300That was a page two story, if it got covered at all, just to give you an example.
00:16:05.660Or any of this, the whole media frenzy of, oh, Trump is going to seek revenge.
00:16:12.780Chris Matthews says he's going to put people like me in front of a firing squad.
00:16:18.700AOC says she's going to be thrown in jail only if she's charged and convicted of a legitimate crime.
00:16:24.500This is to draw your attention away from the fact that the Russians just moved nuclear submarines into the Gulf of Mexico, and they're headed to Cuba, and they're armed with missiles.
00:16:36.080So all of those stories get relegated to the back pages if they get covered at all because of the political witch hunts and the attacks on Donald Trump.
00:16:47.180All right, let's talk about strategy here with Trump when it comes to the VP, and I'll just kind of give you my short analysis here and get your response.
00:16:56.660I feel like it really all depends on what Trump's strategy with the VP pick is.
00:17:03.140If he wants to try to cozy up to the Republican establishment, you're thinking a Tim Scott, maybe a Marco Rubio, kind of like he did with Mike Pence.
00:17:13.120I don't suspect that will be the case, but if that's his strategy, I think that that's probably who he goes with.
00:17:17.920If he's looking to garner the most votes with his VP pick, I think he looks at Tulsi Gabbard, potentially an RFK Jr.
00:17:26.180I don't know if he would drop out for that role, but that would certainly garner a lot of votes, specifically from the Democrats.
00:17:31.060I think if he's looking strategically to kind of build the future of the Republican Party and kind of pass the torch and maybe keep more momentum going behind the black vote that's switching over to Donald Trump, I think Byron Donalds is a really good candidate, maybe Ben Carson.
00:17:48.460To me, though, I think Byron Donalds is the best pick, and there's a debate about whether or not you can have two candidates from Florida.
00:17:57.660I think that you can, and there's probably a strategy around that, even if you can't.
00:18:01.700But where do you see the leader in the clubhouse?
00:18:03.420What do you think Trump's strategy is right now?
00:18:06.160First of all, let me address that question.
00:18:07.980The 12th Amendment of the Constitution, Section 2, doesn't prohibit two individuals who are legal residents of the same state from running for president and vice president.
00:18:19.580But if they carry that state and they went to the Electoral College, in this case Florida, let's say, with a Trump Donalds ticket or a Trump Rubio ticket, then you would forfeit the votes of the Electoral College.
00:18:33.700However, if between the election and the Electoral College meeting, any of the two people on the ticket change their legal residence to another state, then you may have resolved that issue.
00:20:03.640You have to find somebody who meets those conditions.
00:20:05.840Then secondarily, I think you want somebody who shares the America first agenda, who is a MAGA Republican.
00:20:14.260At least I believe you need that because you have to energize your base.
00:20:19.060And then lastly, you look at the political considerations.
00:20:22.680Well, you could say, you know, perhaps Trump should have an African-American running mate.
00:20:27.160Well, but the candidate on the ticket who's winning African-American votes is Donald Trump.
00:20:32.840Others say, well, maybe you need a Hispanic on the ticket.
00:20:35.300But the polling already shows you the candidate that is going to win you Hispanic votes is Donald Trump.
00:20:41.740The one area we haven't moved is among women, which is why you might look at Tulsi Gabbard, as I said,
00:20:48.100or Elise Stefanik, who let's say she's proven that she's tough on nails,
00:20:52.940as nails taking on a number of these corrupt judges in New York who are trying to weaponize that criminal justice system.
00:21:00.420So you want somebody who's surefooted, someone who understands this is a supporting role that wouldn't upstage Trump, wouldn't contradict him.
00:21:10.520Look, Mike Pence, because he reassured evangelicals and conservatives, because in 2016, there were still some who didn't realize how conservative Trump really is.
00:21:20.660He was he was perfect right up until the moment he wasn't perfect.
00:21:25.440So I'm not sure the ideal running mate exists.
00:22:55.460He's an embarrassment every time he's in public.
00:22:57.260But it's I mean, they don't have much time left.
00:23:01.180I think that since they are not anxious to debate, to have Joe Biden debate Donald Trump, I think Biden issued this challenge confident that Trump would turn it down because it's CNN.
00:23:13.240And with Dana Bash and Jake Tapper, that's three on one in the debate.
00:23:18.860And I think they were going to say, well, you see, I offered a debate.
00:23:23.800That didn't work when Donald Trump jumped on the chance to debate Joe Biden, despite the fact that a number of the ground rules of the debate seemed to me to be disadvantageous to him.
00:23:35.720So, for example, the fact that that Trump's microphone will be turned off while Biden is speaking and vice versa, I think that disrupts Trump's debate style.
00:23:47.220People want to see a lively give and take.
00:23:49.980They don't want to see canned statement after canned statement.
00:23:53.400So maybe, just maybe, since this debate is the first one in history in which the presumptive nominees of both parties are going to debate before they're even legally the nominees, perhaps the goal of this debate is to have Joe Biden do a big old belly flop so that it speeds up the movement within their party to find another nominee.
00:24:15.600Joe Biden is a huge risk if this debate goes forward.
00:24:29.960So, Roger, I was just sitting here thinking, like, can you imagine Biden's on the stage, has one of those awkward moments, and Trump's mic goes hot and he goes,
00:24:41.440Excuse me, excuse me, but does anybody smell this?
00:25:09.520Well, as you know, the Biden people wanted to have the two candidates be seated, which I thought was a terrible idea, which Trump has.
00:25:17.780Well, maybe they put a toilet under Joe and they'll hide it.
00:25:20.160Well, then we sort of, I sort of, I've got to go do some research on this.
00:25:25.140RFK says that the debate violates federal election law because he's, that he's qualified to be there based on some, the criteria of having demonstrated that he can get on the ballot or is on the ballot.
00:25:40.600In states that constitute theoretically 270 electoral votes.
00:26:13.140Well, the Federal Debate Commission, or I don't even know if it's federal, but the Debate Commission is basically the tyrants that run this deal.
00:26:19.360They're the ones that are going to try to help, you know, basically send Trump into the debate, like, you know, stabbing the gladiator three times before he goes into the arena.
00:26:28.460Well, look, the Presidential Commission on Debates is not appointed by the president.
00:26:34.720And it's most certainly not about debate.
00:26:36.560The co-chairs are the chairs of the Republican and Democratic Party.
00:26:40.380I've always believed that if the Libertarian Party gets on the ballot in enough states to constitute 270 electoral votes theoretically, then their candidates should be in the debates.
00:26:50.680And it's also true of the Green Party.
00:26:53.060That's democracy that they like to talk so much about.
00:26:55.840So that would be the only fair way to do it.
00:26:58.360But to set these criteria of saying, oh, well, you have to have 15 percent of the vote in three consecutive polls, but they have to be polls that we approve on.
00:27:51.220But look, RFK basically centers his campaign around the health freedom issues, the war in Ukraine, things in which he appeals to someone who might otherwise be thinking of voting for Trump.
00:28:06.660He doesn't talk about his position on abortion, abortion on demand.
00:28:11.040He doesn't talk about his position on climate change, where he's a true radical, wants to jail people who don't agree with him on that.
00:28:19.640He doesn't talk about his support for reparations, says that there is no military threat posed by the communist Chinese.
00:29:30.980I kind of I got to give Roger his props on that.
00:29:33.920But but picking back up where we were leaving off there with the situation, a crazy situation, all kinds of crazy situations could develop in the next 145 days till the election.
00:29:44.140But the crazy situation, somebody doesn't get to the threshold of electoral college votes.
00:29:59.300So if a majority of members of Congress from a given state were Republicans, they would caucus and their vote would go to the Republican nominee, presumably.
00:30:09.700But that can only happen if if some third or minor party candidate carried a state and denied either Biden or Trump from victory in that state.
00:30:22.420I don't see that as being terribly likely.
00:30:25.720You know, Owen, one of the worst things about the possibility that InfoWars will be no more is the fact that I'll never be able to collect on that 2018 election bet from which you owe me a giant.
00:30:38.060I can't believe I can't believe this absolute slander.
00:32:29.000I've got to say, quite a striking image there.
00:32:32.560And, of course, you put the statement out.
00:32:34.300Now, maybe I should put together an investor group to buy InfoWars in a bankruptcy sale.
00:32:39.460And there's you looking great back just some short years ago.
00:32:44.140Man, it's amazing how far we've come since then and everything that we've gone through and dealt with to still be on air today.
00:32:53.100Yeah, I don't want to get into the bankruptcy stuff.
00:32:55.580I'm already – you know, I think we're in our final days here, maybe even single digits left as far as how many broadcasts we have left.
00:33:02.260But getting back to the point at hand and all the craziness we're about to experience, I don't know the date that they're supposed to digitally ceremoniously swear in Joe Biden
00:33:15.100because they made the clerical error of not giving themselves enough days before the Ohio rules to get him on the ballot there.
00:33:22.100But that's apparently what they're going to do is do this kind of digital swearing in before the real event in August.
00:36:49.540By the way, he also – he's a very stubborn guy.
00:36:52.140He wants to get out there and campaign.
00:36:54.760I think they have a very tough time getting him through an entire election,
00:36:59.600which is why I still remain confident that they may, at the end here, come along and replace him with, you know who, Michelle Obama,
00:37:09.060who clearly, if you just threw it open to the convention and let them draft the most popular Democrat in the country who's eligible, that would be her.
00:37:18.320Her husband's probably the other most popular Democrat in the country, but he served two terms and can't be nominated again.
00:37:24.780He actually served four terms – three terms if you count the one going on now where he's clearly the single most influential person in this administration.
00:37:35.640Yeah, and of course, whoever it is running things, it's not Joe Biden.
00:37:40.000That's so obvious that Joe Biden doesn't run anything.
00:37:42.560He gets coached around the White House grounds by Easter Bunny mascots.
00:37:47.260I mean I don't know if it gets much more embarrassing than that, but that's what we have going on here, 145 days until the election.
00:37:55.180We've got one more segment coming up with him.
00:37:56.680I want to talk about just some general political phenomenons happening with his expertise and experience dealing with politics in D.C. and out.
00:38:05.340But specifically this phenomenon that I think a lot of people are witnessing now – I know I'm witnessing it –
00:38:10.860where anything to the right of just far-left extremism, radical liberal progressivism is now considered right-wing.
00:38:21.980And there's no doubt this is pushing a lot of maybe kind of centrist liberals to the right.
00:38:28.340So I want to get Roger's take on that and more.
00:38:29.940Final segment with Roger when we come back.
00:40:30.560They don't have the monopoly they once had, but they're still very influential.
00:40:34.000And then you still have, as we mentioned, the ongoing censorship and manipulation of information, particularly by Google.
00:40:41.400You look into any of the reports by Dr. Robert Epstein, who's appeared here on InfoWars, their manipulation of data.
00:40:51.480There are a lot of institutional barriers to Trump winning this election.
00:40:57.500All of these things came into play in 2020.
00:41:00.980I expect they will come into play again.
00:41:03.800The question is whether we can generate more voters and achieve a high enough level of election integrity in key states to win this election.
00:41:15.500You know, you're definitely right with the mainstream cable news networks kind of slowly but surely being replaced, I would say, by Internet or social media patterns.
00:41:27.220I don't think it's made the full switch yet.
00:41:29.880I would say that, you know, some people might still think that, oh, no, social media has a bigger impact.
00:41:34.840I think it's probably still cable news.
00:41:36.980Maybe it's going to shift in the next four years, maybe 10 years.
00:42:35.620I was looking forward to a news service thing called News Break.
00:42:39.460It's a constant flow of left wing propaganda headlights that they're hitting me with their push notifications.
00:42:46.400I don't see any balanced content there at all.
00:42:51.360The other important thing is that as people have unplugged from the from cable and they have and as broadcast television loses its reach and its power, there's a great rise in people who are watching average advertising on their phone.
00:43:08.740You know, CTV and OTT, the going directly to the devices.
00:43:13.560Almost a third of voters, Republican primary voters now say they're getting their news there, not on their computer, but or on their handheld phone, but not on a TV set and not on cable.
00:43:28.240So I think cable will ultimately go the way of the broadcast television and the Internet is here to stay.
00:43:35.100The question is, can we get a level playing field on the Internet?
00:44:25.100So their message has reached millions and millions of their fans.
00:44:28.880So you can't say whether it is it doesn't matter whether it's Taylor Swift who will have an influence on an entirely different set of people or whether it's fans of some of the people you just mentioned.
00:44:44.820You definitely there are influences out there outside of politics influence in the pop culture.
00:44:51.440And they do have enormous followings and they're rarely censored.
00:44:55.820So I do think that can have some impact.
00:44:59.540I think it's going to be I don't know if it's going to be a massive wave, but I do expect some big names to endorse Trump that maybe we don't expect because it's just so obvious at this point.
00:45:09.680I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, most people like money.
00:45:15.120They don't like the government taking their money.
00:45:17.080They don't like their high energy bills.
00:45:18.500I mean, this is always really the number one issue, wouldn't you say, Roger?
00:45:21.700I mean, obviously, the illegal alien issue is big.
00:45:25.180But at the end of the day, most people are thinking with their wallets.
00:45:27.820They're thinking with gas prices, energy prices, grocery bill prices.
00:45:32.720Cost of living, the cost of a gallon of gasoline, the cost of groceries, the fact that your dollar just buys so much less because of the epic inflation, the so-called pocketbook issues.
00:45:47.600The lack of affordable housing, huge issue, really an understated issue, a lack of opportunities for the middle class.
00:45:56.020Yes, those economic issues, I think, are the most important.
00:45:59.520On the other hand, the world is teetering on the edge of World War III.
00:46:03.440We're using American missiles to strike targets inside Russia.
00:46:09.060We have Russian nuclear submarines with missiles right off of our coast.
00:46:18.660The Democrats have no record to run on.
00:46:21.120They have to run on Trump's a convicted felon, January 6th recycled.
00:46:26.780The Republicans want to outlaw all abortions, and then their all-time favorite, the Republicans will cut your Social Security benefits, which Trump is adamantly opposed to.
00:46:41.860They can point to these employment figures, but I just saw an excellent analysis by Barry Habib, one of the leading housing and mortgage experts in the country.
00:46:54.000And he decimated the way they manipulated all these numbers.
00:46:59.560I hate to put you on the spot, but the final 90 seconds here.
00:47:02.940How does Roger Stone feel about America today and the future of our beloved country?
00:47:09.680Well, I'd feel a heck of a lot better if InfoWars could survive.
00:47:12.820I'd like to see that because we've been the tip of the spear, and I'm proud of my work there.
00:47:19.320And InfoWars is a beacon for many, many, many people.
00:47:24.080When I go out and do public events, the people who've said to me, oh, I've seen you on with Alex, or I've seen you on with Owen, you have no idea.
00:47:34.140So I'm an optimist, but that's because I'm a Christian, and I believe Jesus Christ can do anything, and I think he can save this nation, which is why I pray every night for the health and safety of Donald Trump and for a free, fair, honest, transparent election, because if we could have such an election, I honestly believe that Donald Trump will win.
00:47:56.020All right, Roger Stone, from your words to God's ears, let's hope it's true.
00:48:03.920And, you know, in a way, in a way, when they strike down InfoWars, it'll be more powerful than ever.
00:48:10.200And so maybe that's just the next chapter here.
00:48:12.760Maybe that's just the next chapter in American history, American lore, and the great crew here, the great guests here, the great hosts here, and, of course, Alex Jones himself.
00:48:21.180Maybe that's just the next part of the story.
00:48:25.780There could be a major plot twist, but that's where we're headed.