The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 19, 2024


Pennsylvania is the Key to Trump Victory - with Cliff Maloney of the PA Chase


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58 minutes

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Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

Roger Stone and Troy Smith of Slingshot News join me to break down the latest political news and to hone in on the keystone state of Pennsylvania, which virtually everyone recognizes will be the absolute key to either winning the presidential election for either party in Tuesday s mid-term election. Join us to hear from Cliff Maloney of the Pennsylvania Chase, a good old fashioned ground game, grassroots get-out-the-vote operation, voter registration, identification, and identification efforts, and also chasing those crucial mail ballots which, of course, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has upheld the validity of, even though many believe they are, in fact, unconstitutional. The Pennsylvania Chase has 120 full-time ballot chasers on the ground with the goal of knocking on 500,000 doors to try to close the gap with the Democratic National Party in Pennsylvania and make sure that the election is truly a referendum on Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in November 2020. The Stone Zone, with Roger Stone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. He s appeared on countless public radio shows, and has lectured at countless events, including a recent lecture at Oxford and Cambridge. Roger Stone is a pop culture icon and has been described as a "pop culture icon." by Rolling Stone and a "political icon in the world of the world. - - a writer, a podcaster, and a frequent guest on conservative media outlets, including The Weekly Standard, and the New Republic a regular contributor to the New York Magazine, The Daily Mail, and many other publications among other publications. He has a book out in paperback and is a frequent contributor to conservative publications, including Playboy and Playboy, and an online presence on social media platforms. . He is one of the best-selling authors in the press and a regular presence on the internet, and he is a regular on the airwaves and radio show on the radio show of late-night talk show, and hosts a weekly podcast on the podcast Morning Joe on the Tonight Show with Rachel Maddow. and The View from the Morning Joe.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.820 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.420 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.540 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:23.120 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:27.860 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.860 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:41.800 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:47.200 Our politics is moving at warp speed with new developments every day.
00:00:52.080 Yesterday, what appeared to be some kind of chemical or gas attack on the people standing directly behind President Donald Trump during a rally.
00:01:03.460 A lot of questions about that.
00:01:05.560 We're still looking into it.
00:01:07.120 Joining me now to break down the latest political news and to hone in on the keystone state of Pennsylvania,
00:01:15.460 which virtually everyone recognizes will be the absolute key to victory here for either presidential candidate,
00:01:22.960 is my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:01:27.680 Roger, it's always an honor to be back in the Stone Zone.
00:01:30.240 So we are very pleased today to have Cliff Maloney with us.
00:01:35.160 Cliff Maloney is running the Pennsylvania Chase, a good old-fashioned ground game, grassroots get-out-the-vote voter registration,
00:01:46.780 identification, and get-out-the-vote operation, and also chasing those crucial mail ballots,
00:01:53.020 which, of course, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has upheld the validity of,
00:01:58.760 even though many of us believe they are, in fact, unconstitutional.
00:02:02.320 Cliff Maloney of the Pennsylvania Chase joins us now in the Stone Zone.
00:02:08.820 Roger, appreciate you having me, as always.
00:02:11.000 Great to be in the Stone Zone with some patriots.
00:02:13.800 Cliff, you're doing incredible work, and that's what we want to talk about today.
00:02:17.360 So in 2016, Donald Trump won Pennsylvania by 68,236 votes, which was a difference of 1.2 percent over Hillary Clinton.
00:02:30.780 In 2020, however, Biden was declared the winner in Pennsylvania by 80,551 votes,
00:02:38.200 which is also a difference of 1.2 percent of the vote.
00:02:43.200 Well, the Philadelphia Democrat Party machine is known for its ability to manipulate votes.
00:02:51.900 They've changed voter fraud to an art form, but that this time will be quite different,
00:02:59.980 where I do believe we'll have poll watchers and a more aggressive and fully legal operation
00:03:05.620 made sure that we have an honest count.
00:03:08.260 But you and others who we've had on the show have really focused on Pennsylvania as the absolute key.
00:03:18.520 I agree with that analysis.
00:03:20.740 And Scott Pressler, yourself, other patriots are doing an amazing job of registering votes,
00:03:26.480 but then it's not just registering them, it's getting them out.
00:03:29.000 So tell us what's going on on the ground in Pennsylvania.
00:03:32.880 Yeah, well, as of Monday, ballots are legally able to go out.
00:03:38.580 Now, we did have a court delay that because it is supposed to be 50 days out as the soonest,
00:03:44.560 which would have been Monday.
00:03:45.820 But those court rulings are now proceeding.
00:03:48.200 We expect ballots to go out in all the 67 counties in the next week.
00:03:53.440 And so what we've got is 120 folks on the ground with the PHAs.
00:03:57.640 They're full-time ballot chasers, and we're going to knock on 500,000 doors to try to close that gap that you talked about, Roger.
00:04:05.620 And I want to give your fans and your listeners one metric that, to me, is the most important.
00:04:10.920 So in 2020, yes, we allegedly lost by 80,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
00:04:15.620 But what kills me is when you look at the numbers, there were 141,000 Republicans who requested a mail-in ballot,
00:04:24.140 and they never sent it back, right, because nobody talked to them.
00:04:27.900 You didn't have Scott Pressler's group on the ground.
00:04:30.480 You didn't have Turning Point.
00:04:31.520 You didn't have our group doing the PHA's program, right?
00:04:35.180 All that changes in 24.
00:04:36.680 This is the first time I've seen both the RNC under Watley and Trump and all these other organizations.
00:04:42.700 We've got synergy, and we're fighting fire with fire.
00:04:46.560 And so right now on the ground, you've got all these people chasing the ballots, doing the work,
00:04:51.480 and I think that's how we solve that problem of the 141,000 people that requested the ballot and never sent it back.
00:04:59.560 Now, some good news for your folks here, Roger.
00:05:01.920 If you look at the mail-in ballot requests from today versus four years ago, the same time out from the election,
00:05:12.440 Democrats are down 303,000 requests.
00:05:17.600 Republicans are down as well, but they're only down about 50,000.
00:05:21.300 So right now, we've netted an advantage of 250,000 mail-in ballot requests compared to where we were at this time four years ago.
00:05:31.260 Alarm bells are going off at the DNC when they see these numbers and they see they're hemorrhaging Democrat mail-in ballot requests
00:05:40.880 in places like Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and statewide in Pennsylvania.
00:05:45.860 It's very good news for Donald Trump.
00:05:47.840 There was an Ipsos poll yesterday that showed Kamala Harris leading in Pennsylvania by five,
00:05:57.380 speaking to a number of pollsters who have access to their own data.
00:06:02.200 None of them believe that that is correct.
00:06:04.320 The Trump campaign, I believe, also shows the president narrowly ahead in Pennsylvania in their own polling.
00:06:11.260 Also told that pollsters who work for Governor Shapiro dispute that number and that they don't believe that Kamala Harris is ahead in the state.
00:06:22.480 Last night, President Donald Trump was on with Gutfield on Fox,
00:06:28.600 and he made an observation that gun owners specifically do not vote in the numbers that you would expect.
00:06:36.700 Given the many challenges to the Second Amendment, you would think they would be highly motivated voters.
00:06:43.840 Pennsylvania actually has more gun owners per capita than any state in the nation.
00:06:49.120 Tell me about efforts in that area to get those who are Second Amendment supporters, gun owners, legal gun owners, to vote.
00:07:00.400 Yeah, there's been different coalitions that I'll point to, Roger, one of them being gun owners or hunters in the state of Pennsylvania,
00:07:07.400 another one being the Amish community, right?
00:07:09.320 And so you have warriors like Scott Presser on the ground, and he's targeted both of these communities, among others, to try to get them to register,
00:07:17.340 because it's, you know, 80-20, even 90-10 sometimes that any of them that register are going to vote Republican.
00:07:24.260 And so Scott has been working around the clock with early vote action to register them.
00:07:28.540 And you better believe when we pull our universe, the universe that we are chasing ballots in right now,
00:07:34.260 we are targeting them.
00:07:36.200 So it's not just going to every door of Republicans with the ballot, but it's also trying to figure out,
00:07:42.300 what are those coalitions of kind of the Trump voters that just based on a single issue, we can find them?
00:07:49.020 I mean, we're going to have people flooding the Amish communities to make sure that they vote, you know,
00:07:54.000 because if you look at the amount of Amish in PA compared to how much we lost by any of these communities
00:07:59.500 that are going to be supermajority voters for Trump, you have to make sure you're working them.
00:08:05.940 So yes, we're talking to gun owners, we're talking to the Amish,
00:08:09.280 we're talking in some of these bellwether counties where momentum is coming to Trump,
00:08:13.680 like in Bucks County, where we've now overtaken the Dems, we're in Luzerne County,
00:08:18.540 we're in Scott Perry's congressional district because there's a battle there.
00:08:22.100 So it's about picking the different battles.
00:08:25.180 But I think one thing I always say, Roger, is there's going to be organic support.
00:08:28.640 But you've got to be organized.
00:08:31.080 I think Obama taught us this in 08, right?
00:08:33.400 There can always be organic, but if you're not organized, but you put those two things together,
00:08:37.860 and I think Trump has them right now in a way that Republicans have not seen in a while.
00:08:42.400 You put those together, I think that is a great formula for winning in November.
00:08:48.500 Very good point.
00:08:49.540 Now, there was recently a court ruling, I remember reading about it,
00:08:53.480 I think I read about it on your X feed that you thought was very beneficial.
00:08:58.640 In terms of how some ballots in Pennsylvania will be treated.
00:09:02.600 Tell us about that.
00:09:04.480 Yeah, so the court has ruled now that in order for the mail-in ballot to count, it must be dated.
00:09:10.840 So let's talk about the different problems that we find with mail-in ballots,
00:09:14.980 outside of them being constitutional or unconstitutional, which, Roger, you and I are on the same page.
00:09:20.560 So when you get a mail-in ballot, you send it back.
00:09:23.060 You have to sign it.
00:09:24.400 You have to put the date.
00:09:26.360 And you have to put it in a secrecy envelope, okay?
00:09:29.360 And so a lot of times what happens is the counties get these mail-in ballots.
00:09:33.400 And if one of those three things is off, well, then they're going to put it in the provisional pile.
00:09:38.920 And so that's why you have the secretary of state and the department of state and the governor of Pennsylvania all saying,
00:09:44.700 hey, listen, we might not know the elections results for a few weeks after the election.
00:09:50.280 And yes, that should scare a lot of us who believe in single-day voting and paper ballots and hand counting.
00:09:56.000 But that's why these will be decided in the courts.
00:09:59.080 And my argument to anybody in the MAGA movement, anybody that is running statewide in Pennsylvania,
00:10:04.560 anybody that wants to win even a state legislative race in Pennsylvania,
00:10:08.300 you have to make it too big to rig because the courts are not going to want to throw out votes
00:10:14.460 because they'll be accused as being racist and disenfranchising voting.
00:10:19.280 But right now, Roger, the courts have ruled it's a short-term victory.
00:10:22.900 They have ruled you must put the proper month, the proper day, and the proper year.
00:10:27.220 If you don't do that, the ballot will not count.
00:10:30.400 It'll be held.
00:10:31.200 They can try to sue to get it to count.
00:10:33.280 But once again, we cannot trust the court's decisions.
00:10:36.620 We cannot trust some of these activist judges.
00:10:39.680 The way we win is we overflow and overpower the system so that we've got enough support
00:10:45.840 that all these provisionals, even if every single one of them counted, we would still win the election.
00:10:50.820 It's unfortunate that that's where we are.
00:10:52.460 But that's the state of affairs in American electoral politics today.
00:10:57.220 Troy Smith, do you have a question for our guest today, Cliff Maloney, who's directing the Pennsylvania Chase?
00:11:05.340 Absolutely, sir.
00:11:06.020 I just want to say I watch your Twitter feed pretty closely, and it's great.
00:11:09.260 I guess you have to call it X now, but it's pretty great.
00:11:11.640 And my question to you is the same question that I posed to Scott Pressler,
00:11:15.140 and that relates to the motor voter system put in place by Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
00:11:20.620 Now, I was very surprised to hear Scott Pressler say on this show that that is actually helping register Republicans across the state.
00:11:27.700 It's backfiring.
00:11:28.780 I want to know if you're seeing the same thing and what's been your experience with this program.
00:11:33.400 Yeah, so it's baffled all of us, right?
00:11:35.080 And for those, you know, tuning in, they're unfamiliar with motor voters.
00:11:38.620 So when people are signing up for a state ID or to get their learner's permit or to get a driver's license,
00:11:43.720 you know, it's pretty much automatically registering you to vote or pushing you heavily.
00:11:48.100 You have to opt out, not opt in.
00:11:50.500 It has completely backfired on Democrats.
00:11:53.820 Josh Shapiro is probably kicking himself.
00:11:56.220 He's pretty embarrassed when he talks to the DNC because they thought this was going to be a great, great win for Democrats.
00:12:03.040 But we have outpaced them.
00:12:04.920 More Republicans have registered using this motor voter than Democrats.
00:12:09.220 And look, regardless of any polls that you look at, when you talk about momentum, for the Democrats to put in something that makes them think they're going to get a registration advantage and it swings our way, talk about momentum, right?
00:12:22.680 Talk about people really being excited.
00:12:24.840 Talk about something that's real that shows you how we're doing.
00:12:28.620 And then you look at the registration numbers in PA.
00:12:30.700 You know, remember, folks, back in 2020, the Dems had a registration advantage of over 700,000.
00:12:37.820 We have shrunk that gap to 300,000 and change.
00:12:42.280 We have cut the registration advantage in half.
00:12:45.900 And so when people are asking me, you know, how do you feel about this?
00:12:48.620 I'm feeling great, right?
00:12:50.580 The PHAs, we've got these 120 ballot chasers on the ground full time.
00:12:54.800 They're working six days a week.
00:12:56.100 And by the way, if anybody wants to sponsor a full day of ballot chasing, it costs $175 and every penny goes to the ballot chaser's stipend, their housing, and their gas.
00:13:08.220 You can do that at pachase.com, pachase.com.
00:13:13.560 So I just encourage people, you know, get involved.
00:13:16.980 And I think this is the time to do it.
00:13:18.740 But the numbers give me excitement.
00:13:22.480 Traditionally, of course, there's always been in Pennsylvania greater intensity in the eastern, which is, although Democratic, the more conservative part of the state, than eastern Pennsylvania.
00:13:35.600 Traditionally, the Democrats would get a huge margin out of the city of Philadelphia, but Republicans would close that gap in the counties outside of Pennsylvania, Bucks, Montgomery, and Chester.
00:13:49.560 In more recent years, those counties have trended left.
00:13:54.480 But now, based on, I think, economic issues, you see them coming back.
00:13:59.520 First of all, you see an increase of Republican registrations in those counties, and in polling that I myself have seen, you see that Kamala Harris is not going to get the kind of margin out of the collar counties that they tell us Joe Biden got.
00:14:15.660 I think this is going to be a key factor.
00:14:19.180 Also, the central part of the state, which is probably the most conservative part of the state,
00:14:24.720 One of the keys to victory in 2016, in virtually every state, was that rural voters turned out at numbers never before seen.
00:14:35.300 Do you expect to see that again this year in Pennsylvania, in the central part of the state?
00:14:41.120 Yeah, I expect rural numbers to be through the roof.
00:14:43.580 I do think that is Trump's path to the White House.
00:14:46.240 I think we're focused on a lot of these very heavy red counties where you had a 75 percent turnout rate.
00:14:53.320 We need to get that to 85 or 90.
00:14:55.400 I mean, that's the Democrats' whole playbook.
00:14:57.220 Go into Philly and Pittsburgh, and instead of having 70 percent turnout, make sure it's in the 90s.
00:15:01.940 And you do that, it's very tough to compete.
00:15:03.800 So I think we're focused on those red counties where we have tons of red mail-in ballots sitting there.
00:15:09.860 The other thing I'll share with you, Roger, you're spot on when you have this analysis of the counties.
00:15:14.000 So the good news is since 2020, in 66 out of the 67 counties in Pennsylvania, Republicans have outpaced Democrats on registration.
00:15:25.200 So since that date, it doesn't mean we have a majority, right?
00:15:27.820 But since that date, in 66 out of 67—now, my home county is the stain there, which is Delaware County, which is the only one where Democrats have led Republicans.
00:15:37.840 But I think when you look at a lot of the numbers here, Democrats are hemorrhaging support in the inner cities like they've never seen before.
00:15:46.960 This is not just them having lower—I mean, they are losing Democrats in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh at a rate they've never seen before, right?
00:15:55.260 People unregistering as Democrats, either switching to independent or switching to Republican.
00:16:00.520 You see the Teamsters news coming out that they're refusing to endorse Kamala Harris.
00:16:05.220 That is a huge deal.
00:16:07.380 You know, I've got plenty of family members in the union, southeastern PA, folks out in western PA.
00:16:12.900 The Teamsters refusing to endorse, I think it did not get as much coverage as it should have.
00:16:17.600 Trump is the working-class candidate.
00:16:20.120 And I think we see that not just in his policies, but in the people supporting him.
00:16:24.260 And the last note I'll make on this, Roger, this is the first time I'd argue, since I've been involved in politics, I'm 33 years old, where the more people that turn out, I actually think in a state like Pennsylvania, it helps Trump.
00:16:38.080 It didn't used to be that way.
00:16:40.000 But these working-class individuals, they are not connecting with the elitist Democrat Party.
00:16:45.420 And so I think you finally see this flip.
00:16:48.100 And that means that the more people that show up, the more working-class, the more that turnout is up, instead of it hurting us, I think it actually helps us.
00:16:55.780 And I think people are so tuned in to alternative media, folks like you at the Stone Zone, Joe Rogan.
00:17:01.960 You've got all these groups.
00:17:03.280 Tucker's got his own network.
00:17:04.580 I just think people aren't buying the mainstream narrative.
00:17:08.400 And I think that's very good for people who believe in civil liberties, protecting the Constitution, and rejecting this radical Kamala Harris to save the republic with Donald Trump.
00:17:18.740 Cliff, we've talked a lot on this show about the significance of the political realignment that's going on in the country with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard.
00:17:32.040 Kennedy's still technically a Democrat, but who ran for president as independent.
00:17:36.860 Tulsi, who's left the Democrat Party behind to become an independent.
00:17:41.000 I'm hopeful she'll ultimately decide to become a Republican.
00:17:43.680 Have you reached out to the Kennedy supporters, the Kennedy structure in Pennsylvania, to enlist those folks?
00:17:53.360 And if so, how's that going?
00:17:55.900 If not, perhaps it's something you should do.
00:17:58.100 What is the status of that?
00:18:00.620 Yeah, I think Kennedy joining Team Trump and really having a unity ticket is one of the most significant things that has happened in Pennsylvania.
00:18:08.960 Yes, we have reached out to them.
00:18:10.340 We have had great relationships.
00:18:12.680 We have a lot of those folks volunteering.
00:18:15.420 Some of them are actually our paid door knockers on the ground.
00:18:18.520 And so it's not just voters, but it's activists.
00:18:21.160 And look, I think him being on the ballot and kind of running as an anti-Biden or anti-Harris candidate was one thing with his message.
00:18:29.700 But him taking his message and unifying with Trump, I mean, I think that is significant.
00:18:34.780 And look, the things that we disagree on, any Republican with Kennedy, you know, a lot of those things are minor.
00:18:40.040 I mean, sure, some people are passionate about them.
00:18:42.720 But on the major issues, this is we the people versus the uniparty.
00:18:46.400 This is we the people versus the deep state.
00:18:48.500 This is we the people versus the corrupt actors in Washington, D.C.
00:18:52.600 And so I just, you know, I look at this whole thing and I say, this is a historical realignment.
00:18:58.040 You are correct, Roger.
00:18:59.240 And this is what I ask a lot of people.
00:19:01.240 When's the last time you can remember the Republican ticket didn't have a neocon on it, didn't have somebody who was drooling for more war across the country?
00:19:09.500 I mean, you want to talk about a libertarian dream.
00:19:12.220 And this is my my case, not just the RFK independents and Kennedy type Democrats, but the libertarians.
00:19:19.060 Right.
00:19:19.260 This is the first ticket in my lifetime where we don't have a Republican neocon somewhere on the ticket.
00:19:25.500 Mike Pence, John McCain, Mitt Romney.
00:19:29.040 I mean, think about these people.
00:19:30.240 Dick Cheney.
00:19:31.740 Right.
00:19:32.480 Donald Trump and J.D. Vance stand for no new wars.
00:19:35.840 They don't want to send our wives, our husbands, our daughters, our brothers overseas to fight in these horrendous, useless, endless wars.
00:19:45.020 If that's not enough to get the libertarian folks and the people that care about actually being pro-peace and anti-war, this is the time to step up.
00:19:54.520 Don't buy the BS.
00:19:56.200 Trump and Vance create an alternative, a truly pro-peace ticket.
00:20:00.600 Trump was the only president in my lifetime not to have any new wars.
00:20:05.840 I think it's time to support him.
00:20:07.160 And I'm excited about it.
00:20:09.120 Yeah, I must admit, I don't really understand the calculation of Kamala Harris's campaign.
00:20:16.600 The endorsement of Dick Cheney is not a plus.
00:20:19.900 Dick Cheney is not beloved in America.
00:20:22.300 He is a work criminal.
00:20:23.340 He is a man that I think most Americans now realize drove us to a completely unnecessary war based on two complete lies.
00:20:32.500 No, Iraq had no involvement whatsoever in the attack on America on 9-11.
00:20:37.620 And no, as we have learned, Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, had not acquired yellow cake uranium, as Colin Powell was forced to say on the floor of the U.N.
00:20:51.460 I don't think they understand where the American electorate stands at this point.
00:20:57.760 The support of the Cheneys and of Adam Kinzinger, of the family of John McCain, this is not a plus.
00:21:07.040 I will take the Kennedys and the Gabbards every day of the week.
00:21:12.140 But war is becoming a central issue here.
00:21:15.500 Kamala Harris would like abortion to be the only issue in this campaign, where even there she completely distorts President Trump's position, his long-held position.
00:21:26.740 But I think war is very quickly going to supplant that as the driving issue of this campaign.
00:21:35.160 We're going to put this up, but Cliff, tell folks one more time where they can go to support your important work and how much it costs to sponsor an on-the-ground operative, knocking on doors, getting out the vote.
00:21:51.000 Yeah, so go to P-A-Chase.
00:21:52.980 That's P-A-Chase.com.
00:21:54.900 Like I said, we have 10 Airbnbs right now full of 120 ballot chasers across Pennsylvania.
00:22:02.300 It costs $175 to fund a full day, and all of that money goes towards their pay, their gas, and their housing.
00:22:10.040 There's no commissions.
00:22:11.220 There's no consulting rates.
00:22:13.000 This is about getting those folks fully funded so I don't have to send anybody home.
00:22:17.340 We've got them on the ground.
00:22:18.440 We're doing the work.
00:22:19.220 500,000 doors.
00:22:20.940 P-A-Chase.com.
00:22:22.180 Roger, appreciate you, appreciate what you do for this country, and we're going to win this thing in 2024, take it to the bank.
00:22:30.700 Cliff, it's great to have you back on the Stone Zone.
00:22:33.660 I'm going to get you one of those Roger Stone did nothing wrong hats to wear.
00:22:38.680 So God bless you for the great work you're doing on the ground.
00:22:42.440 You're welcome here anytime on the Stone Zone.
00:22:45.320 Cliff Maloney, Scott Pressler, these guys are selfless patriots.
00:22:49.400 They are working like dogs.
00:22:51.380 They're working themselves into the ground towards victory.
00:22:54.520 And when we win, it will be due not just to the heroic efforts of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:23:02.600 and Tulsi Gabbard, but also due to the work of Cliff Maloney, Scott Pressler, Charlie Kirk, and so many others who understand this is a grassroots,
00:23:12.740 bottom-up effort to win the Keystone State, which will be the key to victory.
00:23:19.720 Cliff, thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
00:23:23.520 Take care.
00:23:24.480 Thank you, guys.
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00:26:31.020 It seems to me that the Kamala Harris campaign is a one-issue campaign.
00:26:36.360 That issue is abortion, where they continue to try to distort Donald Trump's position.
00:26:42.620 They continue to say that he will sign a federal ban on abortion.
00:26:47.180 Of course, he has said consistently that he is opposed to a federal ban on abortion.
00:26:51.980 In fact, it was Trump-appointed Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe, sending the decision
00:27:00.240 back to the states.
00:27:01.660 Now, different states regulate abortion in different ways.
00:27:05.500 States like California and New York have a much more liberal abortion law.
00:27:10.020 States like Alabama and Mississippi, for example, have much more conservative state regulation of
00:27:19.560 abortion, and in many cases, this issue is being put on the ballot for voters to decide.
00:27:25.900 They decided in Ohio.
00:27:28.260 They decided in Kansas, decisions that I was somewhat surprised about.
00:27:34.340 But in some cases, of course, it has to do with the wording of the propositions that are put in front
00:27:39.980 of the people, they seem to bury the access to very, very late-term abortion in their proposals,
00:27:49.760 because, well, they know that that is extremely unpopular, even among those who are pro-abortion rights.
00:27:57.520 So, Troy, what's going on here?
00:27:59.840 So, Roger, I saw the headline this week, and I wanted to bring this up because it's very important, you know.
00:28:04.300 And I also went and did a deep dive on kind of the history of the last few years of this abortion debate,
00:28:09.860 because, you know, like the Democrats and Hillary Clinton have been saying for years,
00:28:13.920 they want to run a short presidential campaign.
00:28:16.900 You know, if it were up to the Democrats, the presidential campaign would be two weeks long.
00:28:20.500 You would know nothing about their candidate, except for the fact, you know, that they're a Democrat
00:28:24.840 and you would know their name.
00:28:25.980 That's what they want.
00:28:27.500 And the reason they want that, Roger, is because they don't really have policies.
00:28:31.520 They don't really have ideas for the country, but they have our ideas to empower themselves.
00:28:36.240 And as they implement these ideas and become more powerful,
00:28:39.260 it's actually crucial to the furtherment of their power that they continue to cut off the past
00:28:44.940 and that we don't remember what they were talking about just a few short years ago.
00:28:49.280 I saw a headline this week that said that Senate Republicans are blocking a bill
00:28:54.640 that would reportedly give people in this country the right to have IVF treatment.
00:29:00.760 You see the headline there from NPR, Senate Republicans block IVF bill
00:29:05.360 as Democrats elevate issue ahead of November election.
00:29:08.700 If you're a casual reader or, as you say, Roger, a non-sophisticate, you look at that and you say,
00:29:14.440 OK, well, it's very clear the Democrats want to protect IVF.
00:29:18.200 Well, in that article, they provide a summary to this bill to protect IVF
00:29:24.080 that was put on the floor by Senator Tammy Duckworth, a Democrat.
00:29:29.280 So I pulled a couple portions of this bill summary that they put in this article.
00:29:34.180 And as we can see, the very first thing that the bill actually says,
00:29:38.820 the summary that they've put out to all the members of Congress,
00:29:41.680 when Donald Trump and Senate Republicans ripped away reproductive health freedom.
00:29:47.320 So that is what they put together, Roger.
00:29:49.560 That's not, you know, some kind of like, you know, a white paper or something like that.
00:29:53.560 They put that out to all the representatives.
00:29:55.840 So they're saying, oh, it's about IVF.
00:29:58.180 But the first thing in their bill is an attack on Donald Trump.
00:30:01.940 And then I went further and I looked at the summary of what the bill actually allows.
00:30:06.560 And we see in this bill that was blocked by Republicans,
00:30:09.300 that it would actually allow the U.S. Department of Justice additional leverage
00:30:14.500 and additional rights to attack anybody that they view as threatening the rights of the reproductive rights of people.
00:30:22.320 So that could be that could be strung out to say, OK, if you're protesting outside of an abortion clinic,
00:30:28.800 you're obviously threatening people's lives and the Department of Justice will come after you.
00:30:32.980 That's in this bill.
00:30:34.300 And also in this bill, Roger, the Democrats, they want to tell you, oh, we want free IVF.
00:30:40.140 Now, we saw President Trump just a few weeks ago, he said that he wanted to give Americans free IVF treatment
00:30:46.960 and he wanted the government to pay for that.
00:30:49.460 Now, I think this freaked the Democrats out really because they've been making, as you said,
00:30:52.880 this election all about the right to IVF.
00:30:56.060 And as we see, can we put that summary back up real quickly?
00:30:58.980 We see in the second highlighted bullet point that this bill proposed by the Democrats,
00:31:04.360 blocked by Republicans, would actually force mom and pop business owners around the country
00:31:09.240 to pay for the fertility treatments of their employers.
00:31:12.620 That's right.
00:31:13.100 This bill, if you see that second line, actually states that it'll be employers
00:31:17.640 that will actually be forced to pay for this fertility treatment.
00:31:20.800 So a tremendous and this is not a cheap process, ladies and gentlemen.
00:31:24.760 This is this is this is like if you have 15 employees and this bill passes
00:31:29.120 and five of them decide they want IVF, you're going out of business because you can't pay for that.
00:31:33.120 And thirdly, that third highlight is a complete ripoff of Donald Trump where they want to protect the rights.
00:31:39.680 We want to make sure more people have access to IVF.
00:31:43.060 Now, this bill also attacks, Roger, Republicans in the state of Alabama who, as I pulled from the headlines there,
00:31:50.500 actually have voted to protect IVF in the state of Alabama.
00:31:54.760 The law has been signed.
00:31:56.380 There's nobody in the state of Alabama whose IVF rights are threatened in the slightest bit.
00:32:01.940 They've actually been codified by the Republicans that are in power there.
00:32:06.320 But yet, yet the Democrats put forth this bill and call the Republicans evil for not voting on it,
00:32:12.360 even though it gives sweeping powers to the DOJ, to all these people to attack everybody as it pertains to abortion and IVF.
00:32:21.420 So let's let's unpack this a little bit more because we have a clip of Kamala Harris talking about third term abortion during the debate.
00:32:30.460 This was brought up by Kamala Harris because remember, folks, the Democrats want to run this election entirely on IVF and abortion.
00:32:37.880 Let's roll the clip of Kamala Harris talking about post birth abortion, late term abortion.
00:32:43.300 And then we will reveal the history of many, many years of the Democrats defending this and putting bills forth to make sure that it's legalized in nine states in this country.
00:32:55.080 Let's roll that clip from the debate of Harris lying to the American people about the Democrats' radical position on abortion.
00:33:01.600 They have abortion in the ninth month.
00:33:05.400 They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor, who's doing an excellent job,
00:33:12.780 but the governor before, he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby.
00:33:18.680 In other words, we'll execute the baby.
00:33:20.580 There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
00:33:24.720 Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion.
00:33:33.560 That is not happening.
00:33:34.580 It's insulting to the women of America.
00:33:37.220 One does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree.
00:33:43.160 The government, and Donald Trump certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
00:33:49.660 I have talked with women around our country.
00:33:52.580 You want to talk about this is what people wanted?
00:33:56.180 Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room
00:34:03.980 because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot?
00:34:10.440 She didn't want that.
00:34:11.760 Her husband didn't want that.
00:34:13.720 A 12- or 13-year-old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term?
00:34:20.420 They don't want that.
00:34:21.680 And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade as president of the United States,
00:34:31.900 I will proudly sign it into law.
00:34:35.420 But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
00:34:41.280 There's so many lies there, it's hard to pick them apart.
00:34:47.660 First of all, Kamala's sorority sister saying there's no state in the country that allows late-term abortions.
00:34:55.620 At least eight states, it may be nine, put no time limit whatsoever on late abortion, meaning that abortion could be performed after birth.
00:35:05.960 Yes, there is a video, I think the president misspoke, and it's the president of Virginia, who happens to be an obstetrician,
00:35:14.180 talking about the grisly prospect of post-birth abortion, also known as infanticide.
00:35:21.260 In fact, Axios, and they are the source here, says that there are at least 10,000 abortions in the eighth or ninth month of pregnancy.
00:35:34.820 Although you just heard the moderator in the debate say that there are no late-term abortions of this type.
00:35:41.540 Then they throw in birth control, by the way, that's the other part of the trifecta.
00:35:47.180 So they say, Trump will sign a federal ban on abortion.
00:35:51.520 No, he won't.
00:35:52.460 He's made that very clear.
00:35:54.660 He has always said, from the moment he entered politics, that this was a states' rights issue and the states should decide.
00:36:01.740 That's why he supported the overturn of Roe.
00:36:04.800 By the way, there is no constitutional right to an abortion.
00:36:08.660 Roe was wrongly decided.
00:36:10.660 It's a great movie called Roe v. Wade, produced by my good friend Nick Loeb.
00:36:17.460 Take it in this weekend.
00:36:19.140 I actually have a cameo.
00:36:20.700 I play a Washington riposte porter in a very short part in the movie.
00:36:25.940 I really think I nail it.
00:36:27.340 I act duplicitous, sleazy, sneaky, and completely dishonest.
00:36:32.420 I really nailed the role of a Washington Post reporter in that little short walk-on cameo.
00:36:38.080 But this is part of their entire falsehood.
00:36:42.960 The truth is, in Alabama, when Donald Trump heard that some Republicans in the legislature were trying to block access to IVF, he started lobbying individual Republican legislators on the phone.
00:36:56.160 Called the governor, called the governor, called the leaders in the legislature to make sure that access to IVF was maintained.
00:37:04.180 So, once again, it is the exact opposite of what Kamala Harris says it is.
00:37:12.340 This is a perfect example, of course, of the kind of coordination that we pretty much expected took place during the ABC debate.
00:37:22.540 As you know, a whistleblower who I find credible has come forward to say that not only were the questions or at least the subject of the questions shared, but that Kamala Harris was guaranteed that there be no discussion of her record as a prosecutor, either as district attorney or as attorney general of the state of California.
00:37:45.660 I think we're going to find out in the next 50, less than 50 days, why she wants no focus on her record as a prosecutor, because she was particularly vicious against people of color.
00:38:00.160 She was particularly vicious against people in the African-American community.
00:38:04.840 She would like us to forget all of that, but the facts are what the facts are.
00:38:11.200 I have one obvious question, and that is, in 2016, we know absolutely that Donna Brazile, who is in that revolving door between being Democrat political operative and media talking head, I don't know any Republicans who can do that, was working at CNN.
00:38:31.400 And she gave Hillary Clinton the questions for her upcoming debate with Donald Trump.
00:38:38.420 Donald Trump kicked her butt anyway.
00:38:41.500 Now, guess where Donna Brazile works?
00:38:44.540 That's right, ABC.
00:38:47.060 History repeats itself.
00:38:49.260 All right, Troy, what else you got for us today?
00:38:51.840 Well, Roger, we have just two videos.
00:38:53.680 I want to play these back-to-back because it just speaks to exactly, this is going to be the end of the abortion thing.
00:38:58.720 And that is Kamala Harris, you know, being debunked by the governor, Ralph Northam.
00:39:06.060 And then we also have a news clip of the time that shows Delegate Kathy Tran.
00:39:10.880 I want to just say this real quickly.
00:39:12.080 I called the office of Delegate Kathy Tran, who put this bill in place, who was calling for children to be able to be aborted up until the moment of birth and even after birth.
00:39:22.440 And they have refused to answer any questions.
00:39:25.680 They refuse to talk about the bill at all.
00:39:28.180 I guess, Roger, if I had played the part of a Washington Post reporter, maybe they would have answered.
00:39:32.860 But we will continue to kind of go there.
00:39:35.040 But let's play those two videos just to kind of sure up and show exactly what the president was talking about and show that this is a real issue and that the Democrats have been caught in radicalism as far as the issue of abortion is concerned.
00:39:46.720 Let's roll those or no exception.
00:39:48.900 There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions, as well as other restrictions now in place.
00:39:59.060 And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.
00:40:07.880 And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor.
00:40:13.880 Do you support her measure and explain her answer?
00:40:17.740 Yeah.
00:40:18.020 And, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran.
00:40:24.260 But I would tell you, one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved.
00:40:39.660 There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
00:40:52.020 And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
00:40:56.280 There may be a fetus that's non-viable.
00:40:59.500 So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
00:41:05.520 The infant would be delivered.
00:41:07.640 The infant would be kept comfortable.
00:41:10.320 The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
00:41:15.380 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
00:41:19.220 So I think this was really blown out of proportion.
00:41:22.700 But, again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.
00:41:27.500 We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers.
00:41:32.320 And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.
00:41:41.100 And do you think multiple physicians should have to weigh in as is currently required?
00:41:45.780 She's trying to lift that requirement.
00:41:46.960 Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision because these decisions shouldn't be taken lightly.
00:41:56.480 And so, you know, I would certainly support more than one provider.
00:41:59.900 All right.
00:42:00.240 Let's go back to the phones now for the governor.
00:42:03.520 We're going to talk now with Mike, who's calling.
00:42:06.080 Virginia's late-term abortion bill is gaining international attention.
00:42:09.680 It would allow terminations at any point during pregnancy, including up until the point of childbirth.
00:42:16.860 Today, politicians are sounding off even in Europe.
00:42:19.700 We want to know your thoughts.
00:42:21.100 You can vote on 13newsnow.com slash vote.
00:42:24.420 13 News Now reporter Jacqueline Lee joins us in the studio with the latest on this.
00:42:28.840 Janet, both Governor Ralph Northam and House Speaker Kirk Cox held press conferences today responding to the backlash surrounding Delegate Cathy Tran's bill, which would ease abortion restrictions in Virginia.
00:42:41.640 The controversy first started from this video.
00:42:45.480 Delegate Tran defending her bill that would loosen abortion requirements in the Commonwealth.
00:42:50.020 Through the third trimester.
00:42:51.700 The third trimester goes all the way up to 40 weeks.
00:42:54.000 Okay, but to the end of the third trimester.
00:42:56.360 Yep, I don't think we have a limit in the bill.
00:42:58.300 Right now, late-term abortions are allowed under Virginia law if three physicians certify the pregnancy substantially and irremediably threatens the woman's life and health.
00:43:08.480 Trans bill would only require one physician to certify the abortion and removes the substantially and irremediably requirement.
00:43:15.780 Facing harsh backlash, Governor Northam went on a radio show stating that trans comments were blown out of proportion.
00:43:22.740 He added that politicians shouldn't interfere with a woman's right to choose.
00:43:26.560 The infant would be delivered.
00:43:28.260 The infant would be kept comfortable.
00:43:30.960 The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
00:43:36.100 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
00:43:39.980 Governor Northam faced backlash of his own, accused of supporting infanticide by conservative leaders.
00:43:45.100 Words have meaning.
00:43:46.960 You saw the tape.
00:43:48.840 I think he was very clear in what he said.
00:43:52.680 And I think that was very disturbing.
00:43:54.240 Conservative leaders across the state are warning that if Democrats flipped the house in November, a bill like this could become law.
00:44:01.020 In a press conference today, Governor Northam pushed back.
00:44:03.860 I regret that those comments have been mischaracterized.
00:44:07.600 The personal insults toward me, I really find disgusting.
00:44:11.300 Governor Northam added, this is nothing more than a political ploy.
00:44:15.520 Delegate Trans Bill did die in subcommittee today.
00:44:18.140 She posted on her Facebook saying all she did, she did nothing to change the way the law stands right now.
00:44:23.920 She said she tried to make sure women can make decisions and access services in a timely manner.
00:44:29.100 Jacqueline Lee, 13 News Now.
00:44:31.520 Boy, the Democrats really are the party of death.
00:44:34.120 There's no question about it.
00:44:35.360 The bottom line of this, of course, remains the same.
00:44:38.260 Virginia's current law does allow late-term abortion, abortion right up until the time of delivery.
00:44:46.420 And there is no question that the governor spoke openly about the baby being born, the baby being made comfortable before a decision is made whether to kill a live baby.
00:44:56.940 That's what he said, and that's what the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, U.S. senator from New York, a liberal Democrat, called infanticide.
00:45:09.140 You're absolutely right, Troy.
00:45:10.700 They don't want to talk about the massive influx of illegals at our border.
00:45:16.760 They don't want to talk about the fentanyl epidemic.
00:45:19.540 They don't want to talk about the crime epidemic.
00:45:22.040 They don't want to talk about inflation.
00:45:25.680 They don't want to talk about the cost of gasoline.
00:45:28.520 They don't want to talk about the fact that we are careening towards World War III.
00:45:33.100 They would like this election to be all about abortion.
00:45:36.120 And even then, they're forced to distort the position of Donald Trump, insisting again and again.
00:45:43.240 And I saw Tim Walsh, Tim Walsh, saying that Donald Trump will sign a federal abortion ban.
00:45:50.940 No, no, he won't.
00:45:52.520 That's not his position.
00:45:54.500 All right, let's continue.
00:45:57.160 Well, Roger, yesterday, Kamala Harris delivered a speech.
00:46:00.060 And it's kind of amazing, you know, to sit her, to see her sit up there as the vice president of the United States.
00:46:05.260 You know, I assume she's got Joe on speed dial and she's talking about all these problems that we have.
00:46:10.200 We have a problem with housing now.
00:46:11.480 There's not enough homes being built.
00:46:13.340 That was what she was talking about.
00:46:15.260 And we pulled some information to this.
00:46:16.740 We'll roll this clip.
00:46:17.740 Then I have a short graph I want to show and get Roger's thoughts on the Democrats' rewriting history as far as housing prices are concerned.
00:46:23.920 And what this new policy from Kamala Harris is she's putting out there, the damage that this could cause our economy.
00:46:30.600 Let's roll that clip.
00:46:31.460 Then I have a chart.
00:46:32.200 And then we'll get Roger's thoughts.
00:46:33.700 We need to take that on.
00:46:34.620 We need to lower the cost of housing.
00:46:36.400 We don't have enough housing in our country.
00:46:38.380 The supply is too low and it's too expensive, both for renters and for folks who want to buy a home.
00:46:45.480 So we will build together millions of new homes and give first-time homebuyers $25,000 in down payment assistance.
00:46:53.860 Because, look, people just want to get their foot in the door.
00:47:02.640 My mother worked hard.
00:47:04.000 She saved up.
00:47:05.240 It wasn't until I was a teenager that she was able to buy our first home.
00:47:09.660 And the American dream is elusive for far too many people increasingly.
00:47:13.660 And that's why it is part of my perspective that let's just do the work of giving first-time homebuyers a $25,000 down payment assistance.
00:47:23.520 Let them get their foot in the door.
00:47:27.140 Well, and, Roger, we have a clip here.
00:47:29.840 There's no homes being built.
00:47:30.960 I wonder why that is.
00:47:31.840 Well, let's show the building price material, the price of building material since Biden came into office.
00:47:37.080 As you can see, under President Trump, they remained steady.
00:47:40.420 As soon as Joe Biden got into office, building materials nearly doubled.
00:47:46.180 And you ask any contractor, Roger, you ask any plumber, you ask people who actually work in this country,
00:47:52.160 what is the main indicator for economic downturn, for economic problems?
00:47:56.940 Building materials is at the very top of that.
00:47:59.560 And as you can see, the price of material, the price of all this stuff is going through the roof under President Joe Biden.
00:48:07.140 We wonder why there's not being more houses built.
00:48:10.040 The materials are more expensive than ever.
00:48:11.920 What do you think about this?
00:48:13.820 You know, the sad thing is what Kamala Harris is proposing has already been tried.
00:48:19.820 Back during the Clinton administration, when Andrew Cuomo was the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development,
00:48:26.740 it was decided that the government would underwrite subprime mortgages for people who wanted to buy a home.
00:48:37.280 Unfortunately, no thought was given to the fact that once they had their down payment and they had their mortgage,
00:48:45.520 as soon as the first mortgage payments, which had a balloon in them, by the way,
00:48:50.440 hit that those who had the homes would not be able to service the mortgage.
00:48:54.960 This caused not only a complete collapse of the housing market, but it actually caused a national fiscal crisis.
00:49:05.060 It crashed the entire economy.
00:49:08.160 So we have tried this before.
00:49:11.180 It didn't work.
00:49:12.940 But it's very attractive if you're a person who would like to have a home
00:49:16.980 and don't think you'll ever have the down payment for a home.
00:49:20.220 And you know you don't have the ongoing financial ability to service a mortgage.
00:49:27.820 Again, she's trying to buy votes with the promise of a policy that cannot fiscally sustain itself.
00:49:38.180 The whole Harris campaign is kind of built around this concept of promising to seal the border
00:49:46.880 when she's had three and a half years to seal the border and hasn't done so.
00:49:52.580 Promising to cut the tax on tips.
00:49:55.940 She actually voted in the Senate to retain the tax on tips.
00:50:00.400 Her entire campaign is one big lie.
00:50:05.940 Well, and Roger, we have more evidence of that from the same speech yesterday.
00:50:10.140 We saw President Trump take kind of unprecedented action, action that had never been taken before
00:50:14.480 when he was president of the United States to, one, cap the price of insulin,
00:50:18.380 which we pulled he did in March of 2020.
00:50:20.800 We have the headline for that.
00:50:22.420 He capped the price of insulin for our seniors in Medicare,
00:50:26.200 which has never been done before, really tremendous thing that a lot of people were complaining about.
00:50:30.840 By the way, President Biden took that away and then put his own in there
00:50:35.060 and then claimed that he was the first to do it.
00:50:37.540 So there's that talking point blown out of the water.
00:50:40.740 But then we also have a headline from November of 2020,
00:50:44.840 where President Trump finally came through and allowed for Medicare to kind of negotiate on their drug prices,
00:50:50.120 which is something he's been talking about for his entire campaign.
00:50:53.900 And I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that this negotiating drug prices
00:50:58.520 was one of the very first policies that Trump came up with when he decided to run for president.
00:51:03.760 So I wanted to ask you, Roger, about this clip.
00:51:06.680 We'll run this now.
00:51:07.660 This is Kamala Harris promising to do all those things that I just showed you that President Trump did.
00:51:13.100 And get your thoughts on the idea that she's kind of trying to reinvent the wheel here that's already been done.
00:51:17.820 So let's roll that clip and get Roger's thoughts.
00:51:20.320 We, because of our work together, have finally given Medicare the power to negotiate lower drug prices with Big Pharma.
00:51:29.020 And understand, if my opponent Donald Trump wins, his allies in Congress intend to end Medicare
00:51:35.700 and end Medicare's negotiating power.
00:51:39.420 As they remind us again this week, they are essentially saying,
00:51:44.240 Check this out, because, you know, you have to ask why, right?
00:51:49.500 So why would you want to end Medicare's negotiating power against Big Pharma?
00:51:56.000 And essentially they're saying that it's not fair to Big Pharma.
00:52:01.620 That's essentially what they're saying.
00:52:04.240 But I'll tell you what's not fair.
00:52:05.840 What's not fair is that our seniors for too long have had to cut pills in half
00:52:12.600 because they cannot afford their full medication.
00:52:15.700 That's not fair.
00:52:19.040 It's not fair that our seniors have had to choose between filling their prescriptions
00:52:24.040 and putting food in their refrigerator or paying their rent.
00:52:28.340 And that's why we will continue to do our work together, including Fight Project 2025,
00:52:36.500 an agenda that would cut Medicare and increase the cost of health care in our country.
00:52:44.580 Well, there she goes again.
00:52:47.100 By the way, she really does a pretty good job of reading that teleprompter.
00:52:51.740 The problem here, of course, is that Donald Trump has no intention of cutting the Medicare program.
00:52:57.120 And if Project 2025 is Donald Trump's platform,
00:53:03.240 well, then the U.S. Communist Party platform is Kamala Harris's platform.
00:53:08.840 I mean, it would be an analogous situation.
00:53:11.360 Trump insists that Agenda 47 is his platform.
00:53:15.660 Project 2025 is not his platform.
00:53:20.880 Yet she insists the Democrat National Party Convention is her platform.
00:53:26.380 I say the U.S. Communist Party agenda platform is her platform.
00:53:32.740 She'll insist that's not true.
00:53:34.200 But then Trump has denounced Project 2025.
00:53:38.340 Yes, people who worked for Trump worked on the platform of a very conservative think tank.
00:53:45.020 There's a few good things in there, by the way,
00:53:47.040 but there's many things in there that Donald Trump doesn't agree to or agree with.
00:53:52.180 But it's part and parcel of the same ongoing litany of lies put forward by Kamala Harris and her campaign.
00:54:03.460 Well, Roger, you know, we are seeing this rhetoric kind of play out, I think, every time we see an assassination attempt occur.
00:54:09.920 I mean, they are out there.
00:54:11.020 We've played the video of Dan Goldman saying that Trump needs to be eliminated.
00:54:14.600 We've played videos of them saying he's Hitler.
00:54:16.660 We've played videos of them saying that he will destroy America.
00:54:19.960 Gavin Newsom ran an advertisement on national television where he said that Republicans –
00:54:26.020 I mean, it was like an acted skit type commercial where he said that Republicans would send police officers
00:54:32.220 to chase down women to get – that got abortions in other states.
00:54:36.560 I mean, this is like beyond – I mean, what – I think it was Chris Matthews you talked about, Roger,
00:54:42.440 that said that Trump would have reporters lined up and shot against the wall.
00:54:47.160 I mean, what kind of rhetoric is that?
00:54:48.720 And like I said, we see this play out in all these assassination attempts.
00:54:52.340 And before we get out of here, I have a question about something that you tweeted out I think is very important.
00:54:56.800 And that is the individual that is leading this investigation for Ron DeSantis into the Trump assassination attempt.
00:55:03.840 That is the most recent Trump assassination attempt.
00:55:07.080 So we have a picture of the individual.
00:55:09.220 I want to put this up.
00:55:09.860 David Kerner has been tagged to lead this investigation.
00:55:13.400 And you raised some questions, say this guy actually might not be the biggest fan of President Trump.
00:55:17.500 He apparently has a history of being anti-Trump.
00:55:20.080 What can you tell us about this?
00:55:22.040 Look, I want to correct a misimpression.
00:55:25.560 David Kerner was the liberal Democrat mayor of Palm Beach.
00:55:30.000 He was a vax Nazi.
00:55:32.700 He set up the COVID-19 Compliance Task Force, which was basically a jackbooted group that went around terrorizing businesses and individuals in Palm Beach County.
00:55:45.540 They set up an 800 snitch line, which was approved by Governor DeSantis, who criticized Governor Walz for letting that be done in Minnesota.
00:55:56.640 But here's the most disturbing thing.
00:55:59.120 Before the 2022 election, Mr. Kerner endorsed Republican Ron DeSantis.
00:56:06.680 And then after the election, I believe in return for his endorsement, he was rewarded with an appointment as the executive director of the Florida Highway Patrol and the Department of Homeland Security.
00:56:19.420 Now, he's not leading the investigation that the governor has ordered into the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, but he is participating.
00:56:29.940 I would prefer if he was not involved at all because of his anti-Trump posts on X and his status as a Trump hater.
00:56:42.400 Overall, by the way, I praise Governor DeSantis for having an independent investigation.
00:56:48.840 As Steve Friend, the former FBI agent, told us yesterday, having concurrent federal and state investigations where most of the actual crimes, such as attempted murder, are under state law rather than federal law.
00:57:07.140 All right.
00:57:07.480 I'm afraid we're out of time for today.
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