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00:00:07.700 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. Joining me now is Peter Antico.

00:00:12.400 Peter is a macroeconomic scholar with a deep understanding of the rapidly changing

00:00:17.640 velocity of capital and its effects on the global marketplace.

00:00:21.760 Peter has two passions, finance and film.

00:00:25.080 In fact, you may not know this, but you've seen Peter because his film credits as an actor

00:00:31.120 include The Creators, where he played opposite Gerard Dupadeau, Bruce Payne and William Shatner.

00:00:37.980 He was also in Oliver Stone's Wall Street 2, portraying a hedge fund manager,

00:00:42.980 The Other Guys with Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg, Black Dynamite, The Hunt for Red October,

00:00:49.020 Con Air, Lethal Weapon 3 and Time Cop 2.

00:00:53.120 Antico has had memorable roles in such films as 29th Street with Danny Aiello and Motorcycle

00:00:59.780 Gang, directed by John Millis.

00:01:02.460 Now, Peter and I are both members of the Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of

00:01:09.740 Television and Radio Artists, known as SAG-AFTRA.

00:01:14.000 As I said in the earlier portion of the show, Ronald Reagan was a former president of the Screen Actors Guild.

00:01:23.620 And it is one of the small pieces of trivia that I know that Ronald Reagan is actually the only union president

00:01:31.440 to ever become president of the United States.

00:01:35.140 So, Peter, welcome to The Stone Zone.

00:01:38.320 Thank you very much.

00:01:39.120 You know, there are two reasons for a union to exist.

00:01:43.220 One is to ensure fair wages and working conditions, as well as a strong pension and health plan.

00:01:49.640 Has our union delivered on those mandates?

00:01:53.120 No, you know, they haven't.

00:01:54.700 In fact, only 10% of our members out of 160,000 even earn the $28,000 necessary per year to qualify for health care.

00:02:04.180 That's the lowest in union history, which is a function of very poor contract negotiations starting back from 2008 until present.

00:02:13.500 And you also should note that our staff, our good staff, earns three times the pension payout.

00:02:20.800 They earn $280,000 a year as a cap.

00:02:24.280 And members like Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks and George Clooney, the maximum they can earn is $96,000 per year.

00:02:32.720 So our union has now been co-opted, running by the staff for the benefit of the staff, and the members are getting shut out.

00:02:40.180 Now, Donald Trump, who was also a member because of the enormous popularity of The Apprentice,

00:02:47.360 plus having appeared in numerous films and in memorable cameos, was ejected from the union.

00:02:55.100 That was spearheaded, as I recall, by the union president, Gabriel Carteris, based on hearsay when he was going through impeachment proceedings.

00:03:05.300 And, of course, ultimately, he was exonerated.

00:03:07.560 Tell me about that.

00:03:08.660 It sounds to me like our union is extremely politically correct.

00:03:13.220 Well, our union is an entertainment union and a labor union across the country.

00:03:19.860 And we've always mandated, since back to Ed Asner, not to be political, because, obviously, there's tax credits in many different states.

00:03:27.360 And if you're either on the Democratic or Republican side, if you anger those kinds of people, you could lose that kind of funding, which would damage the employment opportunities for our members.

00:03:37.420 In regard to Mr. Trump, President Trump, getting thrown out of the union or rejected, it was based upon hearsay.

00:03:48.060 They stated that he was damaging the broadcasters because he was calling a lot of them out for the false reporting that they were doing.

00:03:58.500 And it's interesting because it usually works as we have a disciplinary committee.

00:04:04.180 But the president, Gabriel, took it to the national board because I believe she didn't want to single herself out because I believe that she feared getting litigated against for defamation of character.

00:04:16.260 And the board voted to eject him, except for eight members that voted no.

00:04:22.140 I was one of the people that voted no simply because there was a lack of due process.

00:04:26.300 I mean, you have to let the accuser appear and you have to provide evidence.

00:04:30.760 And so this was a kangaroo court that was basically voted on for political reasons because classically our union presidents, they spent time in Washington with the Democratic Party, with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

00:04:44.700 And during this time, it was very contentious in the country.

00:04:48.660 So this was going through when Mr. Trump was going through a trial and then got exonerated.

00:04:53.920 They should have apologized and they didn't do that.

00:04:56.960 They basically threw him out because of lack of due process.

00:05:00.740 And my issue is due process.

00:05:02.560 Everyone in this country, Democrat or Republican, is is is mandated to have due process.

00:05:08.560 You can't be judged, jury and executioner as highly unethical and political.

00:05:12.600 And let me make a note, Jesse Smollett, who committed that hate crime, all the broadcasters in that room supported that.

00:05:19.880 Kamala Harris supported that.

00:05:21.520 And they said everybody rallied around that.

00:05:24.280 Then it was false.

00:05:25.220 There was a complaint made against Mr. Smollett to have him disciplined.

00:05:30.140 It took them three months and they did nothing.

00:05:32.500 So it appears like it's a double standard at our union.

00:05:35.420 And that's the that's the the facts on that particular case.

00:05:39.760 I think they should be federally investigated for their actions because they're highly unethical.

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00:06:16.140 So as I recall reading, 8,200 senior performers got kicked off of their health care benefits from the union in the middle of the pandemic.

00:06:24.440 And you were among those litigated against the health plan trustees to include the national executive director.

00:06:30.860 The case ultimately settled for 20.6 million dollars for the benefit of these senior performers.

00:06:38.260 Talk to me about that.

00:06:40.040 OK, so what happened in this?

00:06:41.600 In the 2020 collective bargaining agreement, the contract negotiation, Duncan Crabtree Island, our executive director, and a political party called Unite for Strength, which represents the majority of our national board, put out propaganda that stated $54 million was negotiated into our pension and health.

00:07:02.100 When I first heard that, I jumped up and down and said, that's phenomenal.

00:07:05.960 But they used that to actually sell the contract.

00:07:08.700 But what they withheld was that 75 percent of that $54 million was picked from actors' pockets and taken and moved over from their cost of living raises.

00:07:18.120 So a gain is only a gain if the opposing party puts the bill, and they didn't do that.

00:07:23.980 Two weeks after they voted that contract up in 2020, 8,200 seniors were kicked off the plan because our national executive director, Duncan Crabtree Island, failed to inform our negotiating committee that the health plan was in financial trouble.

00:07:41.060 And he is a trustee of that plan, and he breaches fiduciary duty.

00:07:45.160 So I initiated a lawsuit for the benefit of the seniors against the trustees of the health plan, which included Duncan Crabtree Island.

00:07:53.640 And the case was ultimately settled for 20.6 in favor of the seniors.

00:07:58.220 Now, I want to let you know that Fran Drescher called it frivolous. 0.88

00:08:01.420 She was the president.

00:08:02.640 The entire opposing party called it frivolous, but in a court of law, we were proven correct. 0.89

00:08:08.980 And to add insult to injury, three weeks ago, there was a netcode contract, and Duncan is a trustee on AFTRS Retirement Fund.

00:08:18.060 He came to the board and stated that AFTRS Retirement Fund was in financial trouble, and if we didn't put money into it, that the trust agreement would have to be reorganized.

00:08:29.520 And that means it basically could go bankrupt.

00:08:33.560 He did this again with no notice.

00:08:35.640 So that is an additional breach of fiduciary duty.

00:08:39.060 He did it twice.

00:08:40.340 I mean, if you did it once, maybe you're going to forgive somebody and say it was a mistake, but it wasn't.

00:08:45.420 He did it twice.

00:08:46.540 That's why I believe the union should be federally investigated, because I believe there's a lot of nefarious, salacious behavior in regard to our finances that have actually destroyed the infrastructure.

00:08:58.720 And the benefits that do the members of our union.

00:09:03.920 As I understand it, you are a candidate for secretary treasurer of the union.

00:09:08.880 Do you believe the election process will be fair for candidates who are not well-known celebrities?

00:09:14.960 Well, no, I actually don't, because here's how most people don't understand this.

00:09:19.220 They charge national candidates money if we want to send an email out to the entire membership during the election season.

00:09:25.880 So it cost me $4,900 right now to send one email out to the national membership.

00:09:32.700 It cost me $2,400 to send one email to California, Los Angeles branch, and it cost me another $1,100 to send one to New York.

00:09:42.960 But here's the rub.

00:09:44.400 Most of my emails, 70% of them went to spam.

00:09:48.000 I filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and the Department of Labor because they coded the emails incorrectly, and they used a company called iContact, which is a bulk email spammer that's on the blacklist for spamming people.

00:10:02.520 And then they put the word campaign in the headers, and it goes to many of the email service spam.

00:10:09.240 So I gave the board, I gave the governance department the technical specs on how they screwed up.

00:10:16.620 And wouldn't you know it, five days later they came back and wrote me a letter and stated that we inadvertently miscoded the emails, and then they stated that only 107 of them would be resent.

00:10:30.920 And I said that's technologically impossible.

00:10:34.380 When you're sending out a bulk email, once it goes to the server and you push send, it goes out to all email inboxes.

00:10:40.400 So out of all the people I polled, nine in New York, nine out of 11 I just started, and eight out of 10 went to the spam folders.

00:10:48.980 So how are members going to have a fair election if the members at large in the entire country are getting 70% of the emails go to spam?

00:10:58.620 That's not fair.

00:10:59.420 Everyone should be able to hear your financial platform and your policies and what you're going to do to protect the members.

00:11:06.900 And then that's fair, but they didn't do that, and that's why I also believe they need to be federally investigated.

00:11:13.140 Furthermore, I'm reading information from Free the Vote or True the Vote that these voting machines can be hacked.

00:11:21.260 And though they're mail-in ballots, when they put them in the machines, they have to be watched.

00:11:28.200 And this really has to be done correctly with people there that understand how this works.

00:11:34.280 And I really would wish someone from True the Vote would be there to make sure there's no routers operating because they shouldn't be connected to any Internet and any routers, nor using any SB ports to plug into those machines, or the votes can be changed.

00:11:49.480 So this was just brought to my attention four days ago, and I didn't know this, but I'm bringing it to your attention because SAGAPRA has not been run fairly.

00:11:58.960 It's not transparent.

00:12:00.960 They don't give information to the members, and they censor information that would cause the membership, you know, to rise up and vote and create new leadership.

00:12:11.720 Because, respectfully, our pension funding from 2014 to 2024 has gone down a half a percent to a percent and a half a year, and that's for 10 years.

00:12:22.580 And as I said before, the health care is only 10 percent people that qualified.

00:12:27.980 So if you look at the financial metrics, that doesn't lie.

00:12:32.260 The union has been failing from a financial point of view.

00:12:35.860 So you really have to look at it pragmatically and just look at the data because the data speaks for itself.

00:12:41.820 Well, I hate to tell you this, but I think you were subjected to what we call a political dirty trick.

00:12:48.160 We saw this in the elections.

00:12:50.400 Google did this regularly.

00:12:51.680 I tracked it in 2016.

00:12:54.820 If Hillary Clinton put out a blast email, it was classified in such a way that it had about a 90 percent delivery rate. 0.98

00:13:03.800 Yet if Donald Trump's campaign put out a blast email, say a press release, 90 percent of those would go to the spam file.

00:13:13.520 And we actually proved this at the time.

00:13:16.760 It's just one of the ways that they cheat.

00:13:19.420 It's going to be very interesting because Tulsi Gabbard, who is the director of national intelligence, is currently looking at classified documents regarding the efficiency, the effectiveness and the integrity of these computerized voting machines.

00:13:37.720 As you know, she's already made stunning revelations about the so-called Russian collusion hoax.

00:13:46.080 And I think she's now turned her attention to the election process of 2020 to see whether we had a fair, honest election.

00:13:57.640 A lot of people waiting with bated breath for her report.

00:14:01.920 She's shown stunning courage so far in terms of exposing the fact that the Russian collusion hoax narrative was exactly that, a fraud upon the American people.

00:14:13.860 It was nothing less than the greatest single dirty trick in American political history.

00:14:19.920 It was an abuse of power in which the full authority of the U.S. government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies were used to try to undo the results of a fair election, the 2016 election.

00:14:35.880 Whether anybody's going to be held responsible for that, well, that remains to be seen.

00:14:42.100 All right.

00:14:42.340 I want to thank our guest, Peter Antico.

00:14:44.320 I want to also wish you the very best, Peter, in your upcoming election.

00:14:48.280 Sounds like you've got an uphill fight.

00:14:50.120 But also, I can tell just on the basis of this interview that you are a fighter and that you will never quit when it comes to doing the right thing.

00:14:57.440 Yep. Thank you very much, Roger.

00:14:59.500 And lastly, I'd just like to say that if anybody didn't turn in their ballot today, please mail your ballot, you know, vote your heart based upon the information you get.

00:15:10.000 And I pray that that everyone that's listening, go to your spam email folders and look for my letters to the membership.

00:15:16.820 One was on August 15th and sorry, one was on September.

00:15:22.000 It was last Friday on the 5th.

00:15:24.240 But the one I wrote before that to the national membership was two weeks before that.

00:15:28.680 Check your spam filters because people are voting without the information to know my financial stance.

00:15:34.820 And I would appreciate an ethical and fair election.

00:15:37.420 And I sincerely appreciate this interview.

00:15:39.000 Thank you.

00:15:39.360 All right.

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