Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and Cambridge Union Society. Roger Stone has been a pop culture icon for over four decades, and is one of the most influential men in American politics. He has been described as a "pop culture icon" and a "rock star in the making." Roger Stone is a frequent guest on conservative media outlets such as CNN and Fox News and is a regular contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, and the Weekly Standard. He is also a frequent contributor on conservative talk shows such as Fox News, Fox Business, Fox News Channel, and Fox Business. The Stone Zone is hosted by Troy Smith, who is in the absence of Roger Stone, who was in the middle of attending a golf tournament at Mar-A-Lago on Nov. 9th in South Beach, Florida with his daughter and son-in-law, when he decided to join the show to discuss the results of the mid-term election and what it means for the future of the country and the country as a whole. In an interview with Mark Vargas, Stone talks about his thoughts on the Trump administration and what he's been up to since being appointed to the post-election transition team and what his plans are for the coming weeks and months to come after the midterms and the 2020 election. We also discuss the latest in the latest news coming out of the White House, including Mike Huckabee, Mike Huckabee being nominated as the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, and other names being nominated for the position of Ambassador to the Israeli Foreign Service, and why he thinks Donald Trump is a better choice than Hillary Clinton and Mike Bloomberg is a good fit for the job than Ted Kucinski, among other names that could be nominated for a post-secretary of the Supreme Court post-nominee, which could be confirmed as a potential ambassador to Israel. more than $100,000 in the coming days. And much, much more! Thank you for tuning in! -Troy and Mark Vaynerchuk - The Stonezone is a show about politics and culture in the 21st century, and America is on the cusp of a golden age of peace and prosperity.
00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.580Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.640He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.260As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:22.640and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:28.320Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:33.640And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:39.380Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Troy Smith.
00:00:42.060I will be hosting the Stone Zone here today in Roger's absence.
00:00:46.100We do have a long Roger clip that we want to play, but I want to start off the show real quickly by breaking some news here because it's just breaking now.
00:00:52.620President Trump has reportedly selected Florida Representative Matt Gaetz to serve as Attorney General in his next administration.
00:01:01.400The former president has also reportedly named former House Democrat Tulsi Gabbard to be his Director of National Intelligence.
00:01:10.240This is a huge step in bringing together this coalition that Roger and I have talked about for the better part of a year here on the Stone Zone,
00:01:19.960the political realignment that America has been waiting for for some time.
00:01:24.600And this political realignment, folks, has happened because for so long,
00:01:29.400between the Mitt Romney party of the Republicans and the Obama party of the Democrats,
00:01:34.080the working class people of this country have been left behind.
00:01:37.320And President Trump really was the first politician in many years, really since Ronald Reagan,
00:01:43.620to represent that working man and to rebuild that coalition of working class Democrats and working class Republicans
00:01:50.620who want to put aside other differences in order for the country to succeed.
00:01:57.020Just massive news is we also have news that there are several other people that have been nominated to this administration.
00:02:05.460Mike Huckabee, yesterday, was announced as the U.S. Ambassador to Israel,
00:02:11.800along with several other individuals that we're going to be discussing later in the show here today.
00:02:16.520But we don't want to do too much here because we will have Mark Vargas with us on the back half to discuss these latest developments.
00:02:24.340So, folks, as I said, my name is Troy Smith here, host in the show.
00:02:28.380Let's roll this clip of Roger as he discusses really groundbreaking stuff that's going on inside of Trump's administration.
00:02:38.100This is a great interview by Roger where he talks about the goings on.
00:03:20.720I was just hoping to get some of that Mar-a-Lago energy that you were around.
00:03:25.700You, more than anyone, has been a part of getting Donald Trump ready for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
00:03:33.280You helped him through the first time.
00:03:35.500Now, what did it feel like for you to see your hand-picked candidate win and become the 47th president of the United States?
00:03:42.940Well, I was very happy, first of all, for him, because his victory is a testimony to his personal resilience, his personal strength, his personal stamina, his personal perseverance.
00:03:58.600It was a, it was a, it was really a landmark.
00:04:09.160This is winning an election with the full illegitimate authority of the United States government trying to bankrupt you, trying to throw you in jail, trying to keep you off the ballot.
00:04:24.920I mean, look, prior to this, I make an argument that, well, it was Richard Nixon who had the greatest political comeback in American history.
00:04:32.520He was dead and buried, losing a razor-thin election in 1960, then losing a race for governor of California in 1962.
00:04:42.620But in a strange way, the murder of JFK, the murder of Dr. King, the murder of Robert Kennedy, and the disastrous Vietnam War created the sea, part of the seas in a way that allowed for, truly up until that time, the greatest comeback in American political history.
00:05:02.440Donald Trump has now beaten that record in spades.
00:05:05.600I like to think on election night that someplace Richard Nixon was looking down from heaven and smiling.
00:05:11.680So it was a personal victory for the president, and for that, I am very happy.
00:05:18.340But it's also a great victory for the country, because I think America is now going to enter into a golden age of peace and prosperity, of equal opportunity, of affordable housing, of low prices, of secure neighborhoods, where we can do away with the scourge of drugs.
00:05:41.260And really, America is on the cusp of its greatest time since 1776.
00:05:49.580Donald Trump is the right man at the right time for this incredible job.
00:05:54.160And what's really amazing, Stephen, is that the American people saw through the tsunami of lies by the mainstream media, the tsunami of invective, the tsunami of smear that was used against him.
00:06:11.420They saw through the lawfare tactics in which they tried to bankrupt him, throw him in jail, keep him off the ballot.
00:06:58.320I think he realized who screwed him and who forced him out of this race.
00:07:02.380And, you know, we both know right now in his heart, he believes he would have run a better race than Kamala.
00:07:08.340He might even believe that he would have won, although I don't think he would have.
00:07:11.700But then I saw Kamala committing herself to the peaceful transfer of power.
00:07:17.180That's exactly what Barack Obama said.
00:07:19.660At the same time, he was planning the biggest single dirty trick in American history, which was nothing less than the full use of the authority of the United States government and the enormous capabilities of our intelligence agencies to use what they knew was totally fraudulent evidence.
00:07:39.080The Steele dossier and also the false claim that the Democrat National Committee had been the subject of an online hack by the Russians, for which there is no evidence whatsoever, to justify in their minds the removal of a duly elected president in a coup d'etat.
00:07:59.380So people who will do that, people who I believe are behind, at some level, the two unquestionable assassination attempts against Donald Trump, they are not just going to walk away peacefully and cede control of the nation to the people, to the man who the people have chosen.
00:08:21.380They don't care about the will of the American people.
00:08:25.260So, yeah, you have to wonder, what's next?
00:08:28.300Is it Iranian interference in our election?
00:09:53.620So I think he's madder at Barack Obama than anyone else.
00:09:58.880Having known Kamala Harris for all those years, you have to wonder why Obama or, for that matter, Biden, who endorsed her, ever thought that she was capable of running a viable race for president.
00:10:21.380Her record in California was horrific.
00:10:24.240Her record as a prosecutor was horrific.
00:10:27.720And then Joe smothered her in his embrace.
00:10:30.680I mean, remember, he said, oh, no, there was no decision that we made that she wasn't in on.
00:10:37.080And so, folks, in essence, saying if you like the inflation, if you like the gas prices, if you like the fact that we're teetering on the edge of World War Three, well, she was in on all of it.
00:11:13.660They probably lost a lot of their own voters going, OK, you know, we don't like this guy.
00:11:18.160But Hitler, come on, that's that's a bridge too far.
00:11:22.400What are your thoughts on and I had my last night I did a emergency broadcast.
00:11:28.260I had over a thousand people in my community calling Mitch McConnell, emailing him.
00:11:33.860What are your thoughts on him now trying to hold the secret vote tomorrow to try to undermine Donald Trump's presidency by inserting either John Thune or Cornyn from Texas, which will go against MAGA desires, conservative desires.
00:11:52.000What are your thoughts on all of that?
00:11:53.880Well, what do you expect from a pig but a grunt?
00:11:56.700I mean, look, he's been undermining Donald Trump from the beginning.
00:12:04.260John Cornyn, who lauded the appointment of Lisa Monaco, who had been Robert Mueller's chief of staff at the FBI, who probably de facto running the Justice Department today.
00:12:17.260She was involved deeply in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:12:19.880But no Senate Republican brought that up in her confirmation hearings, which is almost unbelievable.
00:12:25.760Only Ted Cruz and Rand Paul voted against her confirmation.
00:12:30.600Cornyn actually rose to praise her at that time.
00:12:39.900This is a man who, when NBC sprung the famous grab them by the you know what on Trump, insisted that the Republican National Committee dump Trump as our candidate and replace him with Mike Pence.
00:12:55.980And had we done so, we would have lost.
00:12:59.360So neither one of them can be counted on to carry forward the the America First agenda of Donald Trump.
00:13:07.580So I am strongly supporting my own senator, Rick Scott.
00:13:12.380I disagreed with Rick Scott here and there on an issue or two.
00:13:15.820But I must tell you, he was a great governor of Florida, much better than the one we have now.
00:13:21.720And he's been a great U.S. senator for Florida and like Donald Trump because he he came from the business world, not politics.
00:14:01.200OK, is there any particular appointment or partnership between Trump and someone else that you are excited about?
00:14:11.480For example, many of my libertarian friends are like out of their minds excited about Trump and RFK Jr.
00:14:20.820teaming up to take on the FDA, big pharma, big food.
00:14:25.080Any any particular partnership that just makes the future brighter in your mind?
00:14:32.220Well, I'm a strong supporter of RFK and his agenda myself.
00:14:35.760I think that we because of RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and Governor Rob Blagojevich and other common sense Democrats who actually believe in capitalism and a strong national defense and a healthier America and don't want to rush into every foreign war where our inherent national interests are just not apparent.
00:14:57.400I think we're on the cusp of a giant realignment in this country.
00:15:03.500Republican Democrat is not the divide here.
00:15:06.380The divide are the insiders, the global elites who know what elected, but who want to run the country and outsiders, people of common sense and good faith.
00:15:17.620So I'm very excited about the partnership with with Robert F. Kennedy.
00:15:21.380I think he's a man of enormous integrity, enormous intelligence, what impresses me about him.
00:15:26.880And I realize that some people find his views controversial, but whenever he's pressed on any question regarding public health, he can back up everything he says with studies and documentation.
00:19:14.700But, like, she's Puerto Rico, a Puerto Rican, and having lived in Puerto Rico, I can tell you with certainty they don't like when Haitians and Dominicans illegally come in and start taking their jobs.
00:19:27.480I don't know why she would see it any differently, but maybe it's because she's a New York, Puerto Rican.
00:19:34.000Do you think Homan, as they say, is going to have to break some eggs in the kitchen in order to make a souffle?
00:19:42.780Is he going to have to come out harsh?
00:20:18.840But Dwight Eisenhower, who's really one of our greatest presidents, very underrated because he wasn't flashy, but really one of our best presidents.
00:20:26.660We had unprecedented peace and prosperity under Ike.
00:20:29.960He deported 1.3 million illegals from the country who were here illegally.
00:20:35.140Tom Homan is the exact right guy for this job.
00:20:39.840And the left is going to go crazy because, yes, I think their long-term plan was always the same, which is to bring all of these illegals in and then eventually give them citizenship so they could change the makeup of the voting population of the United States.
00:20:54.560And that is now going to fail thanks to the courage of Donald Trump and the capabilities of Tom Homan.
00:21:01.180Help me and my audience understand why Trump came out publicly against Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo.
00:21:12.800Is it just that they are seen as being a part of the problem in D.C.?
00:21:18.580What are your thoughts on him blocking them?
00:21:20.760Well, if you go to StoneZone.com, I've written an extensive story on why the president cannot trust Mike Pompeo.
00:21:28.120I have reason to believe the president read that piece before he made his decisions.
00:21:33.340I also address the question of Nikki Haley.
00:21:35.620Mike Pompeo, first of all, defended the Inquisition by Jack Smith over Donald Trump's perfectly legal retention of classified documents, which I believe under the Presidential Records Act he was entitled to do.
00:21:55.780He defended the legitimacy of that investigation.
00:21:58.680Mike Pompeo also is the man who convinced President Trump not to declassify all the documents pertaining to the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
00:22:10.120Mike Pompeo is a guy, I think he was speaking at Yale, who bragged about the fact that as CIA director, he lied and he cheated and he stole.
00:22:19.100He says, that's what we've been taught to do.
00:23:37.740Both of them committed to the chain of endless foreign war.
00:23:41.880Both of them, I think, committed to continuing the war in Ukraine, which Donald Trump wants to bring to a close so we can stop the killing.
00:24:31.500Their job is to carry out the agenda, not their personal agenda, but the agenda of Donald J. Trump.
00:24:38.640And I think so far he's picked extraordinarily able people who, some of whom have been past political opponents, but who now understand that their job is to carry out the Trump agenda, once again, not their agenda.
00:25:04.120I, you know, he, he challenged Trump when he ran for president, but I mean, other than that, is there something that I might be missing or what are your thoughts on Marco Rubio?
00:25:13.980I don't know why my community kept saying, what about Marco Rubio?
00:25:20.060Well, first of all, Marco Rubio is my Senator and in his caseworkers, when my wife had cancer, he was very, very, very helpful to my family.
00:25:30.040So I'll never say anything bad about him.
00:25:33.120We have a few political disagreements, but when it comes to communism in this hemisphere, nobody has been more hardline when it comes to Venezuela, when it comes to Cuba.
00:27:36.020What are your thoughts on his handling of this so far?
00:27:39.520Well, first, let's recognize that under Joe Biden and Antony Blinken, we didn't even have any negotiations going on.
00:27:46.780We're having no dialogue at all to try to settle this matter.
00:27:51.440Which makes it very clear that the State Department under Joe Biden had no interest in ending the war, no interest in stopping the killing.
00:28:48.940He's going to end the practice of the Biden administration, who, as you know, repealed the harsh sanctions that he put on Iran that drove Iran almost to the brink of bankruptcy.
00:29:00.900These sanctions were so harsh that even their Chinese patrons would not buy oil from Iran.
00:29:07.540They didn't have the money to subsidize Hamas or Hezbollah.
00:29:13.680They didn't have the money to renew their nuclear weapons development program.
00:29:20.240Therefore, they weren't a danger to Israel.
00:29:22.440They weren't a danger to the rest of the world.
00:29:24.700Joe Biden, following the policy prescriptions of his puppet master, Barack Obama, gave them more than $190 billion.
00:29:33.480What did they think the Iranians were going to do with that money?
00:29:38.520So this idea that building Iran up would create greater stability and balance in the region, that's what's called insanity.
00:29:49.360And that's why we had the attack on Israel on October 7th.
00:29:52.900And it's why we have this horrific conflict.
00:29:55.800So I would expect, I don't speak for the president in any way, just a supporter and a 45-year friend, but I think he's going to reassert the sanctions against Iran so that they don't have the resources to wreak havoc in the world or the region.
00:31:04.400And, yeah, I'm very mindful of the fact that on that cold morning when I was arrested at 6 o'clock in the morning after 29 heavily armed FBI agents wearing full SWAT gear and brandishing fully automatic M4 assault weapons surrounded and then stormed my home, that CNN had a camera.
00:31:27.580How coincidentally, just 25 feet from my front door.
00:31:46.860And I have an affidavit signed by a Fort Lauderdale police officer who said when he told them, wait a minute, you're with the media.
00:31:52.480You have to move down the street behind that barrier.
00:31:55.180He got chewed out by an FBI agent who said, no, no, they have special permission to be here.
00:31:59.540So the idea that, pardon me, that CNN won an award from the White House Correspondents Association for their tough investigative reporting that led them to believe that I might be arrested that morning, that's nonsense.
00:32:17.800I was arrested at 6.06, at 6.11, someone at CNN texts my lawyer a copy of my sealed indictment, an indictment that would not be unsealed until 10.30 that morning.
00:32:31.140It has no court stamps or time stamps on it.
00:32:35.480But when you look at the metadata tags, there's the man who wrote it, the prosecutor, Andrew Weissman, who leaked it to CNN.
00:32:44.160CNN, that's a crime, by the way, but the judge was not at all interested in that in my case.
00:32:49.520So CNN is not, that's not journalism, that's propaganda.
00:32:54.080The only people that are still watching are in airports, I think.
00:33:36.040I still, unfortunately, have a handful of these lawfare civil cases against my wife and I that are filed by maniacs, lunatics, crazy people, Democrats, liberals.
00:36:35.840And occupied territory in Illinois, what do you make of the news, President Trump returning to D.C.?
00:36:41.600That looked like a cheery Joe Biden, didn't it, Mark?
00:36:45.040I haven't seen Joe Biden that happy in a long time, not since I think Jill got him his new box of Ensure Nutrition shakes when they arrived at the White House.
00:36:55.520But the smile on his face, the way he was so welcoming, the photos afterwards with Jill Biden as well, just smiles all around.
00:37:07.060I love what you're seeing on social media, people posing the question, you know, is this proof, yet more proof, that Joe and Jill Biden voted for Donald Trump?
00:37:16.540You know, they've got a valid point, given all the happiness during today's meeting at the White House.
00:37:22.580Well, Mark, you got a great point there. And, you know, we saw yesterday that there was a lunch between Biden and Harris, and there were some comments made, particularly in the press, about the awkwardness between Biden and Harris.
00:37:34.740This was brought up during the White House press briefing yesterday, and Kareem Jean-Pierre, she actually snapped at Peter Doocy when he raised the question.
00:37:43.040So let's roll that clip real quick, and when we come back, let's get Mark's thoughts on this controversy, because, you know, we see the contrast.
00:37:50.460He's smiling there with Trump and with Biden, or with Kamala Harris, not so much. Let's roll that.
00:37:56.340We know that today, a week after the election, President Biden and Vice President Harris had a private lunch. How awkward was that?
00:38:05.080I don't even understand. Why would it be awkward?
00:38:10.100Because the president got squeezed out for her, and then she kept him at arm's length, and then she lost, and now she's back.
00:38:16.000Why would you characterize it as awkward? They have regular lunches. They meet and talk regularly. Why would you call it awkward?
00:38:24.480So there's no weirdness about the way that things have unfolded since the last paper.
00:38:27.340Did you see them together yesterday as well, when they honored our veterans and were together during the day, making sure that we didn't forget the brave men and women that fought for this country?
00:38:39.520Did you see them together yesterday? Did you see the show of force together?
00:38:44.360I'm not even going to take the premise of the question. What I will say is, the president and the vice president had lunch today. They've had lunch many times.
00:38:57.400They communicate with each other regularly.
00:39:00.600They had an opportunity to discuss the last 70 days or so of this administration, how important it is to get things done for the American people. And that's their focus. That is genuinely their focus.
00:41:17.860And he's been very eloquent in what he thinks the military should become, what the U.S. military could be, and what they need to achieve in order to kind of weed out some of the corruption and the waste and fraud that we've seen plague our military for many years.
00:41:33.460And they're really freaking out of this, Mark.
00:41:35.380I want to ask you, why is this pick in particular getting under their skin?
00:41:40.220Is it because this guy's going to be taking on the military-industrial complex?
00:41:47.280That's point number one, that he is going to be taking on the military-industrial complex.
00:41:50.740Point number two is he's been discussing, even promoting his book, about how Pentagon leadership has failed, how we've fallen so far behind China, and that China currently is in possession of weapons that can completely annihilate our carriers out in the water, could end a conflict.
00:42:10.480And Pete's, what he'd said, is in 20 minutes it would be over.
00:42:13.960And so he's been very critical of the Pentagon and their leadership.
00:42:18.680He's also anti-woke, and I think that's upsetting the Pentagon leadership.
00:42:22.620While they were celebrating—while Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's Pentagon leaders were celebrating men transitioning to women and women transitioning to men and having—publishing DOD videos on this, celebrating it, you had our enemies and our adversaries planning an attack in Israel and in Ukraine.
00:42:44.960And so this is what happens when you take your eye off the ball, and Pete has said clearly from the very beginning that there's massive failures in the Pentagon.
00:42:54.640But they're afraid of—and I just read a report earlier today that said Pentagon leadership and the commanders said this is a nightmare scenario to have Pete Hegseth as the secretary of defense.
00:43:06.820Well, listen, Troy, I worked at the Pentagon.
00:43:08.640I worked there for three years, traveled into Baghdad 14 times as a civilian, where I was TDY.
00:43:15.360I know the halls of the Pentagon very, very well.
00:43:18.900I practically lived in that five-sided squirrel cage for three years.
00:43:23.220I know what it's like, and I can assure you that these commanders that are saying this is a nightmare pick are exactly not the type of commanders we want leading us into war.
00:43:32.040Well, and I think it represents, you know, that Dick Cheney wing of government there in D.C., Mark, that has been in control for so long.
00:43:40.360They've had their way with basically everything, and the idea that they're going to be forced to change is very scary.
00:43:46.580And there's another breaking news topic, Mark, we have to get to today.
00:43:50.100We just have to talk about this because I've seen a lot of conservatives, I think, maybe mistakenly celebrating this news that Jack Smith,
00:43:57.280Special Counsel Jack Smith, is going to be resigning before Trump takes office.
00:45:04.300They want to throw everything that they can in these burn bags, hide the evidence.
00:45:07.800But I think that President Trump would be wise to open up an investigation.
00:45:12.720Let's look into this, the weaponization of special prosecutors like Jack Smith and so many others.
00:45:19.600And this is why, Troy, I think it's so important, now that Republicans have control of both the House and the Senate, that we need to put legislation together.
00:45:28.200Because our founding fathers never envisioned prosecutors having unbridled powers, cloaked in immunity, that would go after their political enemies.
00:45:38.980That was something that they never envisioned.
00:45:40.600They thought of everything else in terms of checks and balances, but this didn't cross their radar.
00:45:45.760And so I think it's important now that we've got an overwhelming majority, that the American people have spoken, given the mandate, the popular vote, and the electoral vote that President Trump has received, more than any Republican president in the history of our country.
00:46:00.140And I think what he ought to do is tell Congress, let's get some legislation together and let's prohibit, for any president, whether it's a Republican president or a Democratic president, let's keep these prosecutors, let's keep them in check, and let's pass legislation to do it.
00:46:15.760Well, and Mark, you know what I'll add in there is, when we look at the documents case in particular, the ruling from Eileen Cannon was that the appointment of Jack Smith was illegal in the first place.
00:46:26.380And I think that may have something to do with the fact that they're dropping this.
00:46:29.800They don't want that to advance because they know if that precedent gets set further down the road, like in, say, a Supreme Court rules in that favor, then the special counsel switch is dead.
00:46:41.120And this, I think, is an attempt by the deep state to preserve that special counsel precedent that we know, based on the judgment of Eileen Cannon, is completely illegal and unconstitutional.
00:46:52.400There's no provision in the Constitution that allows them to do this, Mark.
00:46:56.280And also, you know, when our elected officials, Mark, they take an oath of office, and that means they're supposed to protect us as citizens.
00:47:02.520And one of the people that we've covered from the very beginning of Trump's win here, really defying their oath of office, is the Massachusetts governor.
00:47:13.320And in Massachusetts, the state police and the governor have both come out and said, we're not going to help Donald Trump deport anybody.
00:47:20.620We're not going to do anything to stop illegal immigration.
00:47:24.260And at the same time, Mark, keep in mind, ICE just grabbed an illegal immigrant in Massachusetts and charged him with child sex crimes as this governor is kicking and screaming and saying, we're not going to deport anybody.
00:47:41.680We had protesters gathered just yesterday at the statehouse in support of Trump and his deportation plan, really in defiance of this governor who has declared she's not going to enforce the law.
00:47:52.780We want to roll the clip of those protesters.
00:47:55.140When we come back, get your thoughts on this blatant, basically, refusal or basically willingness to put her people in complete and total danger here.
00:48:21.540And this is an issue that's very near and dear to my heart.
00:48:24.280As you know, I'm here in Chicago, a sanctuary city where nearly 40,000 illegals have taken over Chicago.
00:48:30.760And so for the Massachusetts governor to talk about this is really a dereliction of duty because the first duty of public office is to protect the people.
00:48:40.840And how can you protect the people when it's proven, the statistics and facts are there, that these migrants, illegals, have created havoc in our cities.
00:49:12.020And it's outrageous that this governor is not wanting to cooperate.
00:49:16.760But, you know, what's happening is that she's going to learn soon because, again, this is why President Trump had this mandate.
00:49:23.540One of his number one issues was illegal migration, closing our border and deporting the illegals, sending them back to their country of origin.
00:49:32.660And he not only won the electoral vote, he won the popular vote, too, by a lot.
00:50:11.460And I think people are getting wrapped up in the Tom Homan rhetoric, or they're saying, oh, this is too harsh, or who are they going after?
00:50:29.620It might ruffle some feathers, and people might not like it.
00:50:32.300But they came into the country illegally, and we have to protect our own people and put them first.
00:50:36.760You know, there's a whole group of Democrats, Mark, and I wanted to get this through because one of your greatest hits is in here.
00:50:44.020We have Democrats angling right now for 2028 because as soon as Kamala Harris lost, the seat for 2028 to become the next Democrat presidential candidate kind of opened up.
00:50:55.660I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, but it's important to lay the tracks and the foundation for what we're going to see going forward.
00:51:01.620And what we've seen is Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is planting stories everywhere about himself, about how he's next on deck, and how there was even a story in the New York Post where it basically said Kamala Harris lost because she didn't pick Josh Shapiro, which is just unbelievable.
00:51:19.580And there was another article in The Hill that I read that was an obviously planted story that was like, Josh Shapiro, he has the best chance of defeating the Republican in 2028.
00:51:33.520We've seen reports that he is really planning to enter this race.
00:51:37.380And we also saw reports that California Governor Gavin Newsom, after calling a special session to the California legislator as soon as Trump was elected to address Trump's assault on California, he's now headed to D.C. this week in order to lobby for California's wish list and basically to lay out his anti-Trump agenda.
00:52:02.580He's obviously laying the groundwork for 2028.
00:52:05.080So I want to ask you, Mark, what do you think's going on here?
00:52:08.540Which one of these two gentlemen do you think would have the edge in a potential battle for the 2028 Democrat presidential nomination?
00:52:16.860Well, President Trump's already on fire and he hasn't even taken office yet.
00:52:20.960And then if that's the case, Democrats won't be in control for a long time.
00:52:24.580Because what this election proved is how far out of touch these Democrats have become, like Shapiro and Newsom and Governor J.B. Pritzker in Illinois, my home state, who also wants to be president.
00:52:37.080But when was the last time that we've elected a man who was 450 pounds to the presidency or the vice presidency?
00:52:45.120But, you know, this is all just a shell game.
00:52:48.640Everyone's trying to position themselves.
00:52:50.860But at the end of the day, the American people have spoken.
00:52:55.060And to Trump-proof your state is absolutely laughable, considering that Trump's policies are pretty basic, policies that even Democrats in California can agree with.
00:53:05.960Safer communities, closed border, put violent people where they belong, in jail.
00:53:52.940Well, you know, Gavin Newsom, really just an unlikable guy.
00:53:56.640I mean, as Roger said, he may have perfect hair, but he is not a good presenter on television.
00:54:02.340And, you know, Ron DeSantis is a guy that, you know, it's the more the more people saw of Ron DeSantis, the less they really liked of him.
00:54:10.740He's not he is not a star politician in the way that President Donald Trump is.
00:54:17.020And yet in the debate between Newsom and DeSantis, DeSantis came off like he was the best politician you've ever seen.
00:54:23.760And Newsom really was made to look ridiculous.
00:54:26.320And, you know, Mark, with that record in California, I just don't see how he has any political future because people are fleeing the state.
00:54:33.100No matter what he tries to spin about it, you know, there's they ran out of U-Hauls because so many people were trying to leave the damn place because it's turned into a hellhole.
00:54:42.180Like you said, nobody wants to live there.
00:54:44.300And as you did mention, I didn't know J.B. Pritzker was 450 pounds.
00:56:31.380And real quick, we have a headline just so Tim Walsh, you know, for the for the record, he lost his home county to Trump, which I just think is hilarious because this is a guy every time he comes out, Mark, he plays that stupid song.
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