Roger Stone and his co-host Troy Smith have uncovered a plot to force RINOs to cede control of the House of Representatives to the Democrats in order to pass legislation that would deny Donald Trump the right to be on the ballot and run for President in 2020. To help break this story down, Stone and Smith bring you more political news, including a special election victory for Democrats in Alabama, and the loss of Republican Rep. Mike Gallagher in a primary challenge to Democrat Doug Jones in the Alabama primary, and a potential primary challenge in the Georgia primary, as well as a primary victory for Democratic challenger Amy McGrory in Georgia and a primary win in Alabama for Democrat Doug Dougherty. Join the conversation by using the hashtag , and find us on social media by searching for The Stone Zone . The podcast is produced and hosted by Roger Stone. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents. He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and is a regular guest on countless other media outlets. He has been described as a pop culture icon . and is one of the most influential conservative voices in the conservative media landscape. In this episode, Roger talks about how the Supreme Court has invited Donald Trump to run for president in 2020, and why he should not be allowed to be nominated. by the 2020 election. in 2020 because he s a presidential candidate. And why he s not to run against Donald Trump in the 2020 primary. and why Donald Trump s is not running for re-election in 2020 unless he s really running for president. This episode is a must-listener s guide to the 2020 presidential election in the first place and what s going to be the most important election in the United States of the next two presidential candidates in the next election of 2020. What s going on in 2020? Why Trump s chances of winning in 2020 is not which will be the most crucial election and what s happening in the midterms who s running for President and who s the most likely to win in 2020 and which is the most important race how to win it?
00:15:10.820But what was most interesting about this was the enormous anti-Biden demonstration outside
00:15:17.320in one of the strongest Democratic strongholds in the country.
00:15:21.360The Democrats seem to be coming apart at the seams when it comes to genocide Joe.
00:15:29.200And although the Biden administration has basically been supporting both sides in the Middle East,
00:15:36.340supplying hundreds of billions of dollars for Iran, pretending they don't know that that
00:15:44.500money makes its way to Hamas and Hezbollah and these other terrorist groups, at the same time,
00:15:51.180they seem to be on the verge of a break with our Israeli ally over the aggressiveness of the bombing of Israel.
00:15:59.800Seems to me, as an incumbent, Joe Biden is in a no-win position.
00:16:05.040This, I think, was underlined by the fact in the recent Michigan primary, almost a third of the voters voted for an uncommitted slate of delegates.
00:16:16.660These are overwhelmingly Muslim voters who are very influential in terms of their numbers in states like Michigan.
00:16:23.380There's a couple other states where they are crucial parts of the Democratic coalition and their unwillingness to support Joe Biden.
00:16:31.720So I think this is, overall, extraordinarily bad news for the Biden camp.
00:16:40.180Absolutely, Roger. And we just have a little bit of context that we could throw in for people.
00:16:44.460We want to show, first, the video of the protesters outside of the Radio City Music Hall last night.
00:16:50.860It was a tremendous showing of anti-Biden protesters.
00:16:56.280So let's roll that video so people can see that.
00:17:01.720Now, Roger, we also have a clip where some of the protesters
00:17:27.680actually got inside of the building, and while the dummy, the liar, and the rapist were all hanging out with each other on stage,
00:17:37.160this woman actually got thrown out of the building.
00:17:39.580So let's roll that clip as well of the protester inside of Radio Music Hall at the Biden fundraiser last night.
00:17:45.280As you said, Roger, the anti-Biden element of the Democrat Party is something that's completely understated.
00:18:08.060And that's why I wanted to ask you, Roger, do you think that that has a role in the worry that the Democrats have about RFK Jr.,
00:18:17.480especially with his choice of Nicole Shanahan as vice president?
00:18:20.980That seems to really have tipped the media scales on RFK Jr.
00:18:26.120Troy, I think you've hit it right on the head.
00:18:28.740And if anything, the unorthodox selection of Nicole Shanahan, a woman who seems to me, other than her avast wealth,
00:18:39.680has no qualifications whatsoever to be vice president or theoretically president of the United States,
00:18:46.940was based solely on financial considerations.
00:18:49.920Robert Kennedy's campaign urgently needs money because their efforts to get on the ballot as an independent are not going particularly well.
00:18:59.200But by choosing a progressive Democrat who's proudly vaxxed and boosted,
00:19:06.380which means it undercuts the most basic premise health freedom of his campaign,
00:19:13.080and someone who's given vast sums to Biden and the Democratic Party.
00:19:20.220There's some digging to be done there, by the way,
00:19:23.540because I think we're going to find that she's funded a number of programs that Robert Kennedy himself specifically opposes.
00:19:31.020I think this makes him a greater threat to Democrats.
00:19:33.700If you were a Trump voter and you may have been thinking potentially of the possibility of voting for Robert Kennedy,
00:21:39.280It seems to me that his general stance is staying away from conflict, you know, in Ukraine and things like that.
00:21:46.340So I think it would be interesting to see how that block of voters that is very anti-Biden, if they end up becoming Kennedy voters.
00:21:53.440I think, you know, that's an interesting prospect heading into the election.
00:21:56.680And my question to you, Roger, is now that Kennedy has the billionaire running mate, what do you think of his prospects of getting on the ballot in some of these states?
00:22:09.020Because if he did sell out, maybe he has the cash now.
00:22:12.160Do you think that the possibility of him getting on the ballot in more states becomes a bigger reality now?
00:22:22.320Money is essentially used to pay paid petition circulators.
00:22:28.240So in various states, remember, all 50 states are different.
00:22:33.160There are states that allow someone who's a non-resident of the state but who becomes a notary public or who becomes a justice of the peace if they live in the state to legally witness and therefore collect signatures.
00:23:13.020In New York State, if I were registered to vote as Roger J. Stone, Jr., but I signed the petition Roger Stone, my signature would be invalidated.
00:23:24.560Or if I had earlier signed a petition to put Joe Biden on the ballot or Donald Trump on the ballot or Ron DeSantis on the ballot, and I then signed a petition to put Robert Kennedy on the ballot, well, my signature would be invalidated.
00:23:43.440In some cases, New York being about the worst, the pagination is important.
00:23:50.120The format of the petition can be challenged.
00:23:53.300Remember, as I've said many times, the rules governing how to get on the ballot are written by Republicans and Democrats working together to make sure that they don't face inner intra-party contests, but also, more importantly, to make sure that they don't face general election competition.
00:24:14.460They like the two-party system, they like the uniparty, they like things exactly the way they are.
00:24:24.800So money alone is not going to solve Robert Kennedy's problems.
00:24:29.460Now, what it does do, of course, if he can get on the ballot, is it increases his ability to advertise, which is particularly important because his campaign is censored.
00:24:41.260He has been badly censored because of his position on vaccinations.
00:24:47.200It is illegal for the networks, for example, the cable news networks, the three leading broadcast networks.
00:24:56.280They cannot deny him paid media advertising by law, and therefore, this is another nightmare for the Democrats.
00:25:08.000He seems to believe that there's going to be a debate that includes him.
00:25:15.360I don't think that's actually going to happen, but it's certainly not going to happen if he doesn't get on the ballot in enough states to at least theoretically get 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president.
00:25:31.800Well, and Roger, I wasn't alive at the time, so this is just an honest question.
00:25:36.580When Ross Perot was in the election and he was a big factor, was he an independent?
00:25:43.820Can you explain that situation and does it really compare to what's going on right now?
00:25:48.380Well, first of all, the state election laws were quite different.
00:25:51.580They changed a lot of them post-Perot because of the chaos he brought to the system.
00:25:58.320First of all, you have to have the same uniform running mate in every state.
00:26:05.360So let's go back earlier to the candidacy of George Wallace, the former governor of Alabama in 1968.
00:26:13.780He got on the ballot in virtually every state, but in some states he had a different vice presidential running mate than he had in other states.
00:26:21.840In some places he formed a party because access under a new party was easier than access under an independent.
00:26:31.540There's a great plus if you're going to be a minor party candidate to being affiliated with either the libertarian or, say, the Green Party because, well, first of all, they already have party structures in every state.
00:26:44.380They already have volunteers, they already have people, people with experience in getting on the ballot.
00:26:51.9802012, the Libertarian Party candidacy of Governor Gary Johnson got on the ballot in 48 states.
00:27:00.500I believe that they duplicated that again in 2016.
00:27:04.460The Green Party candidacy of Jill Stein got on the ballot in more than enough states.
00:27:10.460I think it was 46, perhaps 48 in the last election, enough to theoretically at least win 270 electoral votes.
00:27:19.240But Robert Kennedy, starting as an independent, has no structure in the country, probably has a lot of volunteers, but they're not experienced volunteers.
00:27:31.420His campaign manager is a former CIA operative.
00:27:36.360I'm not sure what she knows about running a campaign for president.
00:27:40.460So we've talked about on this show, his campaign leaks like a sieve.
00:27:45.300So he was trying to build a huge amount of momentum behind this announcement.
00:28:02.180I don't think any of those people were ever seriously considered.
00:28:06.280And if they were, there was no no circumstance under which they were going to be his running mate.
00:28:12.460But he his campaign purposely leaked to those names.
00:28:15.760But then 10 days ago before his I should say 10 days before his announcement in Oakland, it leaked from someone inside the Kennedy campaign who wasn't happy with this choice.
00:28:28.080And that's because the choice underlines one of the central messages of Robert Kennedy's campaign, which is he can't be bought.
00:28:40.200He just took a running mate who fundamentally disagrees with him on virtually every major issue.
00:28:46.460Now, for her, I guess it's a vanity play of some kind.
00:28:50.520But again, it's way too early to assume that he's going to be on the ballot in enough states to matter.
00:28:58.260It is interesting that initially the polling seemed to indicate that he took disproportionately from Trump.
00:29:08.740But now the polling on a state by state basis seems to indicate that he takes disproportionately from Biden or whoever the Democrats ultimately nominate.
00:29:21.660Well, and Roger, you highlighted something earlier in the show that we have some clips I want to run on here because, you know, you're right.
00:29:29.740President Biden and former President Obama and former President Clinton were at the Radio City Music Hall.
00:29:35.900They making a spectacle of themselves. And we didn't pull those clips because I don't want to subject you guys, the audience, to that because it was some of the most self-patting on the back, self-aggrandizing BS that I've ever seen.
00:29:51.440You're looking at three individuals that destroyed this country. They absolutely destroyed this country.
00:29:57.540Bill Clinton is more responsible for the industry leaving this country than just about anybody.
00:30:01.560And for Barack Obama to be there, as well as Biden, we know that Biden's not in control.
00:30:08.040So why even promote it? And while that's going on, Roger, you made the contrast.
00:30:12.940President Trump was attending the wake of slain NYPD officer Jonathan Dillard, or Dillard, who was killed on Monday during a routine traffic stop, shot in the stomach,
00:30:25.040and left behind a beautiful wife and a one-year-old son, and President Trump went to the wake yesterday.
00:30:32.140It was highly publicized. And when he came out of the wake, he spoke to the media.
00:30:38.300Now, when he delivered this address, Roger, I've actually got responses because we put it up on slingshot.news of police officers and their families saying,
00:30:48.100thank you, President Trump, for saying what you said. It means so much to us and our community during this time.
00:30:54.340And as we know, law enforcement as a whole is almost like a band of brothers.
00:30:59.660So let's roll the clip of President Trump outside of the wake, giving some unbelievably powerful words.
00:31:07.680Actually, Troy, we have to go to a quick commercial break, and we'll run that video when we come back.
00:55:14.000Or maybe it was the record low inflation or the record low gasoline prices.
00:55:19.720Or maybe it was the criminal justice reform in which people caught with small amounts of drugs for personal use who had no prior criminal record were not locked in prison for the rest of their lives.
00:55:31.780I mean, what part of the Trump legacy is it that Larry objects to?
00:55:36.760Does this guy ever get out of Hollywood?
00:55:38.600I mean, does he think he really knows any real people?
00:55:43.040I think he's funny, but I also think he's a jerk.
00:55:47.160Well, it's funny for me just to, you know, I think for a lot of people out there to watch the total meltdown.
00:55:55.220And, you know, if you need any motivation to vote for Trump in 2024, I know there's going to be a lot of people going to the ballot box just to see, Roger, my goal, I want to see Jen Psaki cry on election night.
00:56:07.000And I think a lot of people do want to see Van Jones have another freak out.
00:56:11.060We want to see Rachel Maddow freak out.