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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:07.340 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.380 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:17.000 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:22.640 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:27.420 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:33.380 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:41.220 Welcome. It's Good Friday. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, this is The Roger Stone Show.

00:00:48.840 We've had an incredible week here on the show because my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief at Slingshot.News,

00:01:01.640 and I have been on the cutting edge of exposing the nefarious and insidious plot

00:01:08.340 to induce RINO members of the U.S. House to cede control of the lower house to the Democrats

00:01:17.300 in order to pass legislation invited by the Supreme Court

00:01:22.120 that would deny Donald Trump the right to be on the ballot and run for president.

00:01:27.520 To help break this story down, or I should say develop it further and also bring you more political news,

00:01:36.440 my co-host, Troy Smith, from Slingshot.News, joins us now.

00:01:43.480 Roger, as always, it's an honor, and this week I feel like we've been really on the cutting edge.

00:01:47.740 This story has gone just about everywhere, and I think it's for good reason,

00:01:51.940 because we've been fighting this legal battle.

00:01:56.220 I feel like the American people have almost been right there with President Trump this whole way

00:01:59.800 because we know what happened in the 2020 election, Roger.

00:02:03.180 We know that President Trump is probably the most popular political figure

00:02:07.660 that has ever been in American history,

00:02:10.600 and the fact that he is so attacked by the legal system,

00:02:15.300 the fact that he is so attacked by those within his own party is a well-known fact,

00:02:19.600 and I think the public's understanding of the idea that the Republican apparatus

00:02:25.500 is constantly undermining President Trump,

00:02:28.700 and the story that you and I broke here in the Stone Zone and on Slingshot.News

00:02:32.740 kind of feeds into that.

00:02:35.020 It validates it in the eyes of many because we have actually uncovered the plot funded by Singer.

00:02:41.680 As you said yesterday, and I've been using this phrase since,

00:02:44.160 quarterbacked by Kevin McCarthy.

00:02:45.800 It's the perfect analogy.

00:02:46.940 He's the one that's quarterbacking this effort in the House of Representatives

00:02:51.100 to get members to retire.

00:02:53.380 And Roger, I wanted to get your reaction real quickly here

00:02:56.600 because we had news that the Republicans actually lost a special election

00:03:01.200 in the state of Alabama this week.

00:03:04.720 And because of that, as we've talked about in this story,

00:03:08.720 the House Republican majority as it stands right now is 218 to 213.

00:03:12.760 With the addition of an additional Democrat in Alabama,

00:03:17.360 the Democrats now have 214.

00:03:20.080 And when Mike Gallagher retires, Roger, it will be 217 to 14.

00:03:24.200 Your reaction to the Democrats gaining a seat

00:03:27.380 and the danger that could pose in setting this plan

00:03:30.480 that we've uncovered into even further motion?

00:03:33.260 Yeah, I think we're in very, very precarious times here.

00:03:37.860 Just so everybody understands what we're talking about.

00:03:40.420 We think that there is a well-funded, very carefully calibrated strategic effort

00:03:46.220 to shed enough Republican members of the House

00:03:50.900 to turn control of the House over to the Democrats.

00:03:55.000 But it's worse than that.

00:03:56.400 The purpose for doing this before November

00:03:59.360 is so that the House can pass legislation

00:04:02.720 sponsored by the odious Congressman Jamie Raskin

00:04:08.600 that would basically declare that because Trump

00:04:12.520 had participated in an insurrection,

00:04:15.920 despite all the evidence to the contrary,

00:04:18.160 he is thus ineligible to be on the ballot.

00:04:22.440 But the U.S. Supreme Court really invited this.

00:04:27.160 So the idea here is Democrats would, working with RINOs, 1.00

00:04:32.400 would get enough Republicans to leave the House

00:04:35.200 to give the Democrats a slim majority.

00:04:38.920 Then they would move the Raskin legislation in the House.

00:04:42.760 The Senate would approve it 5149, most likely,

00:04:46.620 where they have control.

00:04:48.400 And it's game over.

00:04:49.520 So for those who say, well, surely the courts would never allow this.

00:04:54.320 No, as you know, Troy, the courts have basically invited this

00:04:57.800 in their Colorado decision.

00:05:00.080 And that is precisely what they are up to.

00:05:03.180 What I said, of course, was that every special election

00:05:06.760 in May and June has to go the right way.

00:05:11.020 Those Republican seats or those seats that were previously held

00:05:15.060 by Republicans must be restored to Republicans.

00:05:18.700 So, for example, Scott Bowe, a strong conservative,

00:05:23.580 an experienced conservative with long service

00:05:26.480 in the California State Assembly,

00:05:28.720 needs to take the seat of Kevin McCarthy

00:05:31.600 in that upcoming special election.

00:05:35.380 I use that as an example.

00:05:38.860 Now, the seat you referred to in Alabama

00:05:40.740 was expected to go to the Democrats.

00:05:43.260 It did.

00:05:43.940 But we're in a very precarious point here.

00:05:47.200 There's not much room for error.

00:05:50.220 And we're perplexed about this fellow, Mike Gallagher.

00:05:54.820 If Mr. Gallagher chose to leave,

00:05:57.860 why didn't he leave immediately?

00:06:00.320 Why did he announce his resignation,

00:06:02.820 but not actually resign until such time

00:06:07.040 as it's too late under Wisconsin state law

00:06:09.960 to have a special election?

00:06:12.540 That means his seat will remain vacant until November.

00:06:16.220 But it also means that the number of votes

00:06:18.880 that the Democrats need to control the House

00:06:21.260 is lower.

00:06:22.900 And that's the real game here.

00:06:25.500 You, Troy, have figured out.

00:06:27.720 Yesterday, we had Gary Frenchy from Next Network News.

00:06:31.900 A great interview.

00:06:33.200 I urge you to check that out.

00:06:34.560 I urge you to check them out.

00:06:36.840 But he's done an in-depth analysis

00:06:39.560 of who the next rhino quizlings may be.

00:06:44.100 And he pointed out perhaps one of the most obvious ones at all.

00:06:48.740 Greg Pence, the brother of disgraced former Vice President Mike Pence.

00:06:55.320 I know you dug into that in a new piece at Slingshot.News.

00:06:59.600 What did you learn?

00:07:00.740 Well, Roger, you know, when I was looking into this for the first time,

00:07:06.800 we listed Greg Pence on the list of people

00:07:09.420 who had announced that they're not running for re-election in 2024.

00:07:13.380 So people need to understand,

00:07:14.980 Greg Pence is not running for re-election already.

00:07:17.700 He's already decided that he's not going to run in 2024.

00:07:21.660 Now, this puts him in a prime position, Roger,

00:07:24.620 to be the next person to retire from the House GOP.

00:07:28.720 Now, as we were just discussing, Roger,

00:07:31.280 in Alabama, the Democrats gained a seat.

00:07:34.100 So now it's 218 to 214.

00:07:36.900 And when Mike Gallagher leaves, it will be 217 to 214.

00:07:42.320 And as we move forward here, if Greg Pence were to retire,

00:07:46.800 there wouldn't be an ability to get a special election.

00:07:49.720 So it would be another vacancy.

00:07:51.360 And it diminishes down to 216 to 214.

00:07:54.460 So as we get closer and closer and closer to the election,

00:07:58.020 we need to be looking, as Gary French, you brilliantly pointed out,

00:08:01.740 at all of these people who have taken donations from Singer

00:08:05.080 and are not running for re-election

00:08:06.360 because they are the prime suspects

00:08:08.080 for the people that will eventually hand the House GOP to the Democrats.

00:08:13.680 Now, that's the plan, Roger.

00:08:15.220 And I've kind of looked at this pretty closely.

00:08:17.620 So in preparation for this show,

00:08:19.480 we pulled up a clip of Greg Pence.

00:08:22.380 Now, people need to keep in mind,

00:08:24.580 former Vice President Mike Pence

00:08:26.200 and former President Donald Trump,

00:08:28.460 they are at odds.

00:08:29.420 They've been at odds.

00:08:30.440 Pence actually tried to challenge Trump

00:08:32.200 in the 2024 Republican presidential primary,

00:08:35.400 but he failed.

00:08:36.480 And because he failed so spectacularly, Roger,

00:08:38.820 I feel like people don't even talk about that.

00:08:41.680 So here's Greg Pence highlighting his anti-Trump rhetoric,

00:08:46.180 highlighting the fact that he has a bone to pick with Donald Trump

00:08:48.900 because Mike Pence is his brother and urging Mike Pence to run.

00:08:53.300 Here's a clip of Greg Pence talking about his brother.

00:08:57.720 I've been begging him to run since he talked about it last Thanksgiving.

00:09:03.240 I think my brother brings really about three things to the table.

00:09:06.900 One, he'd bring back the conversations about Christian, conservative,

00:09:13.440 fiscally responsible Republican Party dialogue principles.

00:09:20.440 The other is, I think, if my brother won the primary a year from now,

00:09:26.600 he could form a phenomenal cabinet.

00:09:29.200 He knows the international scene.

00:09:31.180 He knows the Washington, D.C., and he knows all the players with the expertise.

00:09:37.040 And the last is, frankly, I'd love to see him debate President Trump.

00:09:41.540 I think he would know how to do that, and he's a world-class debater.

00:09:45.580 Do you think the Republican Party would accept him as a nominee?

00:09:48.980 I mean, President Trump's supporters view him as a traitor.

00:09:51.360 Yeah, well, we'll see.

00:09:52.820 You know, that's, I get a lot of positive.

00:09:55.580 You know, President Trump, which my wife and I, along with the rest of my family,

00:10:03.280 my son worked for the president for a long time,

00:10:05.700 I don't have any negatives about the president.

00:10:08.220 But I think looking to the future with my brother,

00:10:11.880 I'm not alone in thinking it's time to take a different path.

00:10:16.040 It's time to look ahead and not backwards.

00:10:18.980 You can see much more of our conversation about Mike Pence's potential presidential bid

00:10:24.060 as well as the debt ceiling negotiations coming up this Sunday on All Indiana Politics.

00:10:29.800 Well, there you have it, Roger.

00:10:31.000 Your reaction?

00:10:32.440 Yeah, I think he's quite possibly the next guy to go over the side.

00:10:36.980 Now, this is not just happening.

00:10:38.720 This is orchestrated, as you said earlier.

00:10:41.140 I think in a revenge play, former Speaker Kevin McCarthy is the architect of this move,

00:10:49.180 while Paul Singer, the globalist, vulture, capitalist,

00:10:53.720 and longtime financier of everything anti-Trump, is financing the operation.

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00:13:00.180 hair and fixing it that you have a bunch of new hair growth.

00:13:04.040 I've been going to this lady for probably 13 years and she's never said that to me.

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00:13:30.580 Welcome back, folks.

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00:14:16.740 you won't see anywhere else in American politics.

00:14:21.000 Troy, I couldn't imagine any more obvious juxtaposition than yesterday when President

00:14:29.920 Donald Trump went to Long Island to go to the wake of a New York City police officer who

00:14:37.180 was killed in the line of duty, while Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Bill Clinton went to

00:14:44.740 a star-studded high-dollar fundraiser at the RKO Music Hall in Manhattan.

00:14:55.460 So somebody said, title this.

00:14:57.200 They put up a picture of the three presidents and I said, okay, it was Obama, Biden, and

00:15:03.100 Clinton. 1.00

00:15:04.160 Sure, a traitor, a dummy, and a rapist. 1.00

00:15:07.580 That was my caption. 1.00

00:15:10.820 But what was most interesting about this was the enormous anti-Biden demonstration outside

00:15:17.320 in one of the strongest Democratic strongholds in the country.

00:15:21.360 The Democrats seem to be coming apart at the seams when it comes to genocide Joe.

00:15:29.200 And although the Biden administration has basically been supporting both sides in the Middle East,

00:15:36.340 supplying hundreds of billions of dollars for Iran, pretending they don't know that that

00:15:44.500 money makes its way to Hamas and Hezbollah and these other terrorist groups, at the same time,

00:15:51.180 they seem to be on the verge of a break with our Israeli ally over the aggressiveness of the bombing of Israel.

00:15:59.800 Seems to me, as an incumbent, Joe Biden is in a no-win position.

00:16:05.040 This, I think, was underlined by the fact in the recent Michigan primary, almost a third of the voters voted for an uncommitted slate of delegates.

00:16:16.660 These are overwhelmingly Muslim voters who are very influential in terms of their numbers in states like Michigan.

00:16:23.380 There's a couple other states where they are crucial parts of the Democratic coalition and their unwillingness to support Joe Biden.

00:16:31.720 So I think this is, overall, extraordinarily bad news for the Biden camp.

00:16:40.180 Absolutely, Roger. And we just have a little bit of context that we could throw in for people.

00:16:44.460 We want to show, first, the video of the protesters outside of the Radio City Music Hall last night.

00:16:50.860 It was a tremendous showing of anti-Biden protesters.

00:16:56.280 So let's roll that video so people can see that.

00:17:01.720 Now, Roger, we also have a clip where some of the protesters

00:17:27.680 actually got inside of the building, and while the dummy, the liar, and the rapist were all hanging out with each other on stage,

00:17:37.160 this woman actually got thrown out of the building. 1.00

00:17:39.580 So let's roll that clip as well of the protester inside of Radio Music Hall at the Biden fundraiser last night.

00:17:45.280 As you said, Roger, the anti-Biden element of the Democrat Party is something that's completely understated.

00:18:08.060 And that's why I wanted to ask you, Roger, do you think that that has a role in the worry that the Democrats have about RFK Jr.,

00:18:17.480 especially with his choice of Nicole Shanahan as vice president?

00:18:20.980 That seems to really have tipped the media scales on RFK Jr.

00:18:26.120 Troy, I think you've hit it right on the head.

00:18:28.740 And if anything, the unorthodox selection of Nicole Shanahan, a woman who seems to me, other than her avast wealth,

00:18:39.680 has no qualifications whatsoever to be vice president or theoretically president of the United States,

00:18:46.940 was based solely on financial considerations.

00:18:49.920 Robert Kennedy's campaign urgently needs money because their efforts to get on the ballot as an independent are not going particularly well.

00:18:59.200 But by choosing a progressive Democrat who's proudly vaxxed and boosted,

00:19:06.380 which means it undercuts the most basic premise health freedom of his campaign,

00:19:13.080 and someone who's given vast sums to Biden and the Democratic Party.

00:19:20.220 There's some digging to be done there, by the way,

00:19:23.540 because I think we're going to find that she's funded a number of programs that Robert Kennedy himself specifically opposes.

00:19:31.020 I think this makes him a greater threat to Democrats.

00:19:33.700 If you were a Trump voter and you may have been thinking potentially of the possibility of voting for Robert Kennedy,

00:19:41.320 I don't see how you can now do so.

00:19:44.500 In this selection, Kennedy has demonstrated two things.

00:19:49.440 One, that he really is a progressive left Democrat when it comes to climate change and abortion on demand.

00:19:57.100 And I don't really trust him on guns.

00:19:59.300 He says he's changed, but who knows?

00:20:01.700 But secondarily, this whole premise is a guy who will not sell out for money,

00:20:07.600 who can't be bought by special interests.

00:20:10.080 It looks to me like he was just bought.

00:20:12.700 Now, look, this is a guy who kept a diary on 37 affairs that he had with individual women during the time that he was married.

00:20:24.440 His wife committed suicide after finding this diary.

00:20:28.580 I don't make this as an assertion, but I ask it as a question.

00:20:33.220 Is Nicole Shanahan on that list?

00:20:35.680 Has anyone looked at the diary to find out?

00:20:39.240 I think it's a legitimate question.

00:20:41.500 Again, not making an accusation, but I am asking a question.

00:20:46.360 So the Democrats are in high gear.

00:20:49.820 They're really apoplectic, almost hysterical about the candidacy of Robert Kennedy,

00:20:55.820 meaning the national narrative has changed.

00:20:58.160 The narrative was, oh, Kennedy is going to drain votes from Trump because he's a vaccination skeptic,

00:21:05.560 because he is for closing the border, because he is an opponent for more funding of the war in Ukraine.

00:21:16.440 I think all of that is undercut now by his underwhelming choice of a running mate.

00:21:23.320 Well, and it seems, Roger, and I could be wrong about this because, I mean, I do try to watch what he says.

00:21:29.620 I think he's almost kind of skirted around this entire Israel-Hamas conflict.

00:21:35.660 I mean, it seems to me he focuses on other things.

00:21:38.140 He doesn't really focus on that.

00:21:39.280 It seems to me that his general stance is staying away from conflict, you know, in Ukraine and things like that.

00:21:46.340 So I think it would be interesting to see how that block of voters that is very anti-Biden, if they end up becoming Kennedy voters.

00:21:53.440 I think, you know, that's an interesting prospect heading into the election.

00:21:56.680 And my question to you, Roger, is now that Kennedy has the billionaire running mate, what do you think of his prospects of getting on the ballot in some of these states?

00:22:09.020 Because if he did sell out, maybe he has the cash now.

00:22:12.160 Do you think that the possibility of him getting on the ballot in more states becomes a bigger reality now?

00:22:18.560 Well, here's the thing, Troy.

00:22:20.040 It takes more than just money.

00:22:22.320 Money is essentially used to pay paid petition circulators.

00:22:28.240 So in various states, remember, all 50 states are different.

00:22:33.160 There are states that allow someone who's a non-resident of the state but who becomes a notary public or who becomes a justice of the peace if they live in the state to legally witness and therefore collect signatures.

00:22:48.960 But it takes a lot more than that.

00:22:51.420 It takes an understanding of the process.

00:22:55.160 I say that because these petitions will be challenged by the Democrats.

00:23:00.300 They will seek to knock Robert Kennedy off the ballot any place he files.

00:23:06.180 And therefore, the petitions have to be legally pristine.

00:23:10.160 They have to be flawless.

00:23:11.720 So let me give you an example.

00:23:13.020 In New York State, if I were registered to vote as Roger J. Stone, Jr., but I signed the petition Roger Stone, my signature would be invalidated.

00:23:24.560 Or if I had earlier signed a petition to put Joe Biden on the ballot or Donald Trump on the ballot or Ron DeSantis on the ballot, and I then signed a petition to put Robert Kennedy on the ballot, well, my signature would be invalidated.

00:23:43.440 In some cases, New York being about the worst, the pagination is important.

00:23:50.120 The format of the petition can be challenged.

00:23:53.300 Remember, as I've said many times, the rules governing how to get on the ballot are written by Republicans and Democrats working together to make sure that they don't face inner intra-party contests, but also, more importantly, to make sure that they don't face general election competition.

00:24:14.460 They like the two-party system, they like the uniparty, they like things exactly the way they are.

00:24:24.800 So money alone is not going to solve Robert Kennedy's problems.

00:24:29.460 Now, what it does do, of course, if he can get on the ballot, is it increases his ability to advertise, which is particularly important because his campaign is censored.

00:24:41.260 He has been badly censored because of his position on vaccinations.

00:24:47.200 It is illegal for the networks, for example, the cable news networks, the three leading broadcast networks.

00:24:56.280 They cannot deny him paid media advertising by law, and therefore, this is another nightmare for the Democrats.

00:25:08.000 He seems to believe that there's going to be a debate that includes him.

00:25:13.720 I personally doubt that.

00:25:15.360 I don't think that's actually going to happen, but it's certainly not going to happen if he doesn't get on the ballot in enough states to at least theoretically get 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president.

00:25:31.800 Well, and Roger, I wasn't alive at the time, so this is just an honest question.

00:25:36.580 When Ross Perot was in the election and he was a big factor, was he an independent?

00:25:43.040 Was he a libertarian?

00:25:43.820 Can you explain that situation and does it really compare to what's going on right now?

00:25:48.380 Well, first of all, the state election laws were quite different.

00:25:51.580 They changed a lot of them post-Perot because of the chaos he brought to the system.

00:25:58.320 First of all, you have to have the same uniform running mate in every state.

00:26:05.360 So let's go back earlier to the candidacy of George Wallace, the former governor of Alabama in 1968.

00:26:13.780 He got on the ballot in virtually every state, but in some states he had a different vice presidential running mate than he had in other states.

00:26:21.840 In some places he formed a party because access under a new party was easier than access under an independent.

00:26:31.540 There's a great plus if you're going to be a minor party candidate to being affiliated with either the libertarian or, say, the Green Party because, well, first of all, they already have party structures in every state.

00:26:44.380 They already have volunteers, they already have people, people with experience in getting on the ballot.

00:26:51.980 2012, the Libertarian Party candidacy of Governor Gary Johnson got on the ballot in 48 states.

00:27:00.500 I believe that they duplicated that again in 2016.

00:27:04.460 The Green Party candidacy of Jill Stein got on the ballot in more than enough states.

00:27:10.460 I think it was 46, perhaps 48 in the last election, enough to theoretically at least win 270 electoral votes.

00:27:19.240 But Robert Kennedy, starting as an independent, has no structure in the country, probably has a lot of volunteers, but they're not experienced volunteers.

00:27:31.420 His campaign manager is a former CIA operative.

00:27:36.360 I'm not sure what she knows about running a campaign for president.

00:27:40.460 So we've talked about on this show, his campaign leaks like a sieve.

00:27:45.300 So he was trying to build a huge amount of momentum behind this announcement.

00:27:50.480 I should say suspense.

00:27:51.920 He wanted there to be an air of suspense.

00:27:54.240 He floated names of people he was never really considering.

00:27:57.280 Governor Jesse Ventura, Tulsi Gabbard, others.

00:28:02.180 I don't think any of those people were ever seriously considered.

00:28:06.280 And if they were, there was no no circumstance under which they were going to be his running mate.

00:28:12.460 But he his campaign purposely leaked to those names.

00:28:15.760 But then 10 days ago before his I should say 10 days before his announcement in Oakland, it leaked from someone inside the Kennedy campaign who wasn't happy with this choice.

00:28:28.080 And that's because the choice underlines one of the central messages of Robert Kennedy's campaign, which is he can't be bought.

00:28:37.540 Well, I would say he just was bought.

00:28:40.200 He just took a running mate who fundamentally disagrees with him on virtually every major issue.

00:28:46.460 Now, for her, I guess it's a vanity play of some kind.

00:28:50.520 But again, it's way too early to assume that he's going to be on the ballot in enough states to matter.

00:28:58.260 It is interesting that initially the polling seemed to indicate that he took disproportionately from Trump.

00:29:08.740 But now the polling on a state by state basis seems to indicate that he takes disproportionately from Biden or whoever the Democrats ultimately nominate.

00:29:21.660 Well, and Roger, you highlighted something earlier in the show that we have some clips I want to run on here because, you know, you're right.

00:29:29.740 President Biden and former President Obama and former President Clinton were at the Radio City Music Hall.

00:29:35.900 They making a spectacle of themselves. And we didn't pull those clips because I don't want to subject you guys, the audience, to that because it was some of the most self-patting on the back, self-aggrandizing BS that I've ever seen.

00:29:51.440 You're looking at three individuals that destroyed this country. They absolutely destroyed this country.

00:29:57.540 Bill Clinton is more responsible for the industry leaving this country than just about anybody.

00:30:01.560 And for Barack Obama to be there, as well as Biden, we know that Biden's not in control.

00:30:08.040 So why even promote it? And while that's going on, Roger, you made the contrast.

00:30:12.940 President Trump was attending the wake of slain NYPD officer Jonathan Dillard, or Dillard, who was killed on Monday during a routine traffic stop, shot in the stomach,

00:30:25.040 and left behind a beautiful wife and a one-year-old son, and President Trump went to the wake yesterday.

00:30:32.140 It was highly publicized. And when he came out of the wake, he spoke to the media.

00:30:38.300 Now, when he delivered this address, Roger, I've actually got responses because we put it up on slingshot.news of police officers and their families saying,

00:30:48.100 thank you, President Trump, for saying what you said. It means so much to us and our community during this time.

00:30:54.340 And as we know, law enforcement as a whole is almost like a band of brothers.

00:30:59.660 So let's roll the clip of President Trump outside of the wake, giving some unbelievably powerful words.

00:31:07.680 Actually, Troy, we have to go to a quick commercial break, and we'll run that video when we come back.

00:31:12.300 We'll be right back.

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00:32:22.620 And you're speaking.

00:32:25.240 Is there any regrets that you have in life?

00:32:28.000 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of, yeah, I got a lot of regrets.

00:32:33.160 But when I look back on my life, and I understand the lives that were lost,

00:32:39.420 I mean, I'm sitting here with you.

00:32:44.020 And I can tell my story.

00:32:46.440 Former Hatchell Security Advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn,

00:32:49.400 pleading guilty today for lying to the FBI.

00:32:51.820 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.

00:32:54.000 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.

00:32:59.820 Only brilliant military career, serving 33 years.

00:33:03.380 Why was he being so abusive about him?

00:33:04.360 Mike Flynn pulled the truth and faced like a person.

00:33:07.120 Welcome back, folks.

00:33:33.600 If you're just tuning in, this is the Stone Zone,

00:33:36.200 and I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:33:39.320 Troy had just introduced a video, an interesting juxtaposition yesterday.

00:33:46.300 Donald Trump visiting Long Island to attend the wake of a New York City police officer

00:33:51.580 killed in the line of duty while Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden

00:33:58.040 were at a high-dollar fundraiser at RKO Music Hall.

00:34:03.040 Troy, it's kind of strange that none of the former presidents or the current president

00:34:07.280 went and paid their respects to this valiant police officer's family.

00:34:11.960 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:34:14.640 Well, thank you very much, everybody.

00:34:18.360 I want to thank Bruce and all of the people that have worked so hard to make this area beautiful

00:34:24.320 and safe.

00:34:24.960 And this is what happened is such a sad, sad event, such a horrible thing.

00:34:31.540 And it's happening all too often.

00:34:33.400 And we're just not going to let it happen.

00:34:34.860 We just can't 21 times arrested, this thug.

00:34:39.200 And the person in the car with him was arrested many times.

00:34:44.200 And they don't learn because they don't respect.

00:34:47.300 They're not given the respect.

00:34:48.980 The police are the greatest people we have.

00:34:51.020 There's nothing and there's nobody like them.

00:34:53.060 And this should never happen.

00:34:54.440 And I just visited with a very beautiful wife that now doesn't have her husband. 0.95

00:35:00.680 Stephanie was just incredible.

00:35:03.440 Their child, brand new, beautiful baby, sitting there innocent as can be.

00:35:10.280 Doesn't know how his life has been changed.

00:35:14.180 But the Diller family will never be the same.

00:35:18.220 You can never be the same.

00:35:19.640 And we have to stop it.

00:35:20.860 We have to stop it.

00:35:21.800 We have to get back to law and order.

00:35:23.360 We have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working.

00:35:27.360 This is happening too often.

00:35:29.300 It's an honor to be here.

00:35:30.760 And again, I want to just thank all of you folks for allowing this.

00:35:35.820 And Bruce, thank you.

00:35:36.560 Bruce has been a friend of mine for a long time.

00:35:38.300 He's done an incredible job out here.

00:35:40.620 But this is such a sad occasion.

00:35:43.780 The only thing we can say is maybe something is going to be learned.

00:35:46.880 We've got to toughen it up.

00:35:47.940 We've got to strengthen it up.

00:35:49.320 This should never be allowed.

00:35:50.440 But things like this shouldn't take place and to take place so often.

00:35:53.980 So thank you all for being here.

00:35:56.020 It's an honor.

00:35:56.760 And it's an honor for me to be here.

00:35:58.300 This is a great family, the Diller family.

00:36:00.300 I met the friends and I met every one of them inside.

00:36:04.000 And these are just incredible people that are just devastated.

00:36:07.620 They're devastated.

00:36:08.720 They've got a tough road.

00:36:10.480 It's going to be a very tough road.

00:36:12.480 So thank you very much, everybody.

00:36:14.120 Appreciate it.

00:36:14.740 Thank you, Bruce.

00:36:16.280 Thank you, Bruce.

00:36:17.120 All right.

00:36:18.560 Well, as you can see, Roger, your reaction to that and President Trump, you know, that

00:36:23.080 seemed to me like a leader.

00:36:24.480 And that seemed like somebody that we need in this country right now.

00:36:27.220 Your thoughts?

00:36:28.960 Well, you know, as you know, the president is likely now to be tied up in a criminal trial.

00:36:35.220 It begins April 15th, which is why I think he very wisely made this trip, not just out

00:36:44.000 of respect to the family, but also to make a larger point to the American people that

00:36:48.860 he stands with law enforcement, that he stands against the lawlessness of the woke mob.

00:36:56.120 I expect that during his trial, which is really designed to pin him down physically in a courtroom

00:37:03.200 so he can't be out campaigning, that he is going to make these forays probably fairly

00:37:09.740 close to New York.

00:37:10.720 But he's going to do a bunch of things like this that are not only appropriate, but also

00:37:15.500 symbolic because they're limiting his ability to campaign.

00:37:20.360 He's not going to be able to go out and have rallies while he's on trial.

00:37:24.540 But I do think that he can make trips like this.

00:37:28.240 And I've seen what happens when the president comes to a community.

00:37:31.300 It's very different than when Joe Biden shows up.

00:37:34.820 Joe Biden goes to a union hall in Philadelphia, one of the absolute Democratic strongholds.

00:37:40.740 They have trouble getting 200 people there.

00:37:43.860 Nobody likes Joe Biden.

00:37:45.700 Nobody.

00:37:47.180 Donald Trump comes to a small town and it's chaos.

00:37:51.680 I mean, I remember him visiting one town.

00:37:55.620 It was in a southern state where the people who showed up were approximately three times

00:38:00.240 the population of the town.

00:38:02.280 45,000 people showed up.

00:38:04.340 Trump is a phenomena unto himself.

00:38:07.340 There's never been anyone like him in American politics.

00:38:10.780 There never will be again.

00:38:12.580 Just take the strength of his endorsement, for example.

00:38:18.500 Now, look, I worked for Ronald Reagan.

00:38:19.960 And Reagan and Nixon and Bush, none of these presidents ever got into intra-party contests.

00:38:26.560 It just traditionally wasn't done.

00:38:29.200 Not Donald Trump.

00:38:30.240 He wades into primaries.

00:38:31.940 And it is very hard to find an example where a candidate that he endorsed in the primary

00:38:37.700 lost the primary.

00:38:39.580 In fact, Ron DeSantis is the greatest example of this.

00:38:42.960 Usually, extraordinarily weak candidates who are very far behind are catapulted to victory

00:38:49.640 solely on the basis of a Trump social media posting and an endorsement.

00:38:57.160 In 45 years in American politics, I've never seen that before.

00:39:01.180 Support is, generally speaking, not transferable.

00:39:04.580 Not transferable.

00:39:05.760 This is the only example of it that I've ever seen, is the incredible strength of Donald

00:39:13.000 Trump at the grassroots of the Republican Party, not at the leadership of the party.

00:39:18.360 At the leadership party, you still have many who say they're pro-Trump or try to sound pro-Trump,

00:39:25.020 but frankly, they were involved in the efforts to remove him, and they're not loyal to him

00:39:30.220 today.

00:39:30.760 But at the grassroots of the party, the people in the party, Trump has strength like I have

00:39:37.580 never seen by any previous president or any other previous political figure, for that matter.

00:39:44.900 Well, and Roger, I wanted to ask you quickly about the, you know, because we don't want

00:39:49.860 to fixate on this the whole time, but, you know, the contrast between Trump's visit to

00:39:56.240 this wake and the fundraiser, I think, is a tremendous thing for the American people

00:40:00.460 to understand.

00:40:01.820 And my question to you is, how do you see Barack Obama and Bill Clinton campaigning with

00:40:07.900 Joe Biden?

00:40:08.620 To me, it looks like almost the Democrats, without saying it outright, are pitching the

00:40:15.460 idea that the Democrat complex, whether that's Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama,

00:40:21.980 that they are running the show under Joe Biden.

00:40:25.440 Is that not the message that this campaign fundraiser sent to the American people, Roger?

00:40:30.460 Well, one message it definitely sent is that Barack Obama's plan to get Joe Biden to take

00:40:38.040 a dive isn't going very well.

00:40:41.120 There were reports that Barack Obama visited the White House several weeks ago to tell Joe

00:40:46.860 that his reelection campaign was in deep trouble.

00:40:49.720 People like James Carville, who, while I don't particularly care for his style, he does know

00:40:54.960 how to read a poll, pointed out that Biden's polling is abysmal.

00:40:59.600 I mean, truly abysmal.

00:41:02.160 The Democrats are in high gear regarding their lawfare efforts because they realize that if

00:41:14.200 we have a free, fair, honest, transparent election, Joe Biden is going to lose.

00:41:20.680 Now, what that yesterday told me was that Obama's efforts to get Joe to step aside voluntarily

00:41:28.280 aren't going very well.

00:41:31.900 And Bill Clinton, he was probably just there for the chicks. 1.00

00:41:35.140 Who knows?

00:41:35.640 Well, and as we know, for any women, many women throughout history have been the victims

00:41:44.360 of Bill Clinton.

00:41:45.900 And it's interesting, Roger, you know, also attending that ceremony last night was the

00:41:51.400 singer Lizzo.

00:41:52.360 Now, I don't know if you've ever heard of Lizzo, Roger, but you've probably seen the

00:41:57.380 memes at least.

00:41:58.260 And I think it's interesting, you know, here's a woman that's accused of sexual assault and 0.96

00:42:04.160 assaulting the people that she works with.

00:42:07.220 And yet she's allowed to be at a Democratic fundraiser. 0.79

00:42:10.980 And, you know, I wanted to ask your opinion also, and it kind of segues into this next topic,

00:42:15.820 Roger, the firing of Ronna McDaniel at NBC.

00:42:19.460 You know, I find it incredibly interesting that Ronna McDaniel, who was an opponent of Trump

00:42:25.940 within the RNC, just by the mere fact that she was part of the RNC, that makes her untouchable.

00:42:33.200 And NBC distanced themselves after two days.

00:42:35.660 Yet they have people, I mean, on NBC, they have Psaki, they have other people that have

00:42:41.380 worked for the Biden administration.

00:42:43.500 And on, I mean, ABC is the worst with this, Roger, as you know, they have George Stephanopoulos,

00:42:47.780 who was, I mean, a Clinton operative.

00:42:49.580 So how can we, you know, this idea that, oh, somebody's political, it doesn't, the double 0.56

00:42:56.260 standard there is for people like Lizzo, for people like Jen Psaki, for any of these individuals

00:43:02.320 on the left, they can literally get away with anything they want because they say the talking

00:43:06.900 points.

00:43:07.380 Is that how you see it, Roger?

00:43:10.560 That's a pretty good summary here.

00:43:13.100 Look, if you notice Chuck Todd, of all people, now, first of all, Chuck Todd is talentless.

00:43:19.080 The man has no talent.

00:43:20.840 He is incredibly open in his partisanship.

00:43:24.760 No, he's not some great journalist, but his job is to be objective, theoretically, right?

00:43:29.820 So I'm not a big fan of Ronna Romney McDaniel, but he has an absolute on-air meltdown about

00:43:37.740 the fact that she's been hired.

00:43:39.220 Now, when MSNBC hired Jen Psaki, who came right out of the Biden White House and is therefore

00:43:45.280 just as partisan, let's say, as Ronna McDaniels, where was Chuck Todd?

00:43:51.680 How come Chuck Todd had no objection to that?

00:43:54.360 Chuck Todd seems to have lost sight of the fact that his predecessor, Tim Russert, who's

00:43:59.260 actually a friend of mine, had come out of the office of Governor Mario Cuomo, and before

00:44:05.160 that had worked for Democrat U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

00:44:09.220 So the left thinks it's fine to come out of Democratic politics directly into being

00:44:15.300 a journalist, but it's not okay to be a Republican, at least in this case, a putative Republican,

00:44:22.140 perhaps a rhino, and go to MSNBC.

00:44:25.240 The worst part of this was Ron Romney's groveling, saying, oh, well, you know, I never really liked

00:44:31.620 Trump, and I never really thought the election was stolen.

00:44:34.140 I just said that stuff because I was the head of the party. 0.95

00:44:37.800 That was the most disgusting part of all, in all honesty.

00:44:42.200 I gather she didn't last very long at MSNBC.

00:44:45.620 Look, I want to categorically deny that MSNBC has offered me a gig as an anchor.

00:44:51.760 It is untrue and a complete falsehood.

00:44:56.420 But while we're at it, Troy, let me pull this up, if I may, there were a spate of stories

00:45:03.200 last week that said that Paul Manafort, Corey Lewandowski, and Roger Stone were going to

00:45:09.580 be joining Trump's campaign.

00:45:12.340 Here's what I said to The Hill, published this today.

00:45:16.060 This is written by a reporter who writes, this week I asked Stone about his status with

00:45:24.720 Team Trump.

00:45:25.400 He replied, I have and I seek no formal or informal role in the presidential campaign.

00:45:32.240 I remain a strong supporter of the president, and I speak to him as well as members of his

00:45:37.280 campaign team regarding political matters occasionally.

00:45:41.140 Of course, those conversations remain confidential.

00:45:44.000 Goes on to say, Stone said that his various radio shows where he promotes Trump and his daily

00:45:52.360 show, that would be this one, keep him more than busy.

00:45:56.520 Then he added, if you look at every one of these stories, my alleged campaign involvement

00:46:02.600 is simply based on the fact that I've been seen at Mar-a-Lago recently.

00:46:08.080 What a crock of.

00:46:10.000 Truthfully, Trump and Stone will always have each other's backs, she writes, the source

00:46:16.660 of Trump's Stone's influence, which he intentionally underplays, despite having Trump on speed dial.

00:46:24.340 Well, at least she carried my entire quote.

00:46:27.620 But there are numerous stories that say I'm joining the Trump campaign.

00:46:31.520 I've not been asked to join the Trump campaign.

00:46:33.820 I haven't asked to join the Trump campaign.

00:46:37.200 I would do whatever I was asked, but I don't anticipate being asked.

00:46:41.040 I've been in 13 presidential campaigns.

00:46:44.460 I have no need to do another one.

00:46:46.320 I think I am effective as an advocate for Trump on this show and on my WABC radio show.

00:46:52.640 I don't claim to be a journalist.

00:46:54.300 I claim to be an opinion journalist or work in opinion journalism.

00:46:58.720 That's where you identify yourself right up front as a partisan.

00:47:03.160 I'm not trying to be objective.

00:47:05.060 I'm giving you my political point of view.

00:47:07.400 That's the whole point of what we do here on the Stone Zone.

00:47:12.220 Absolutely, Roger.

00:47:13.180 And I think it's important that you clear that up because I had sent you that and we had talked

00:47:16.740 about that a little bit, that they fabricate things.

00:47:21.200 And as you pointed out, George Stephanopoulos has been doing this for years.

00:47:24.640 There's a, he's been doing it for so long, Roger, that there's people like me.

00:47:28.200 I was, I was born, um, just, uh, eight days before, uh, or, well, actually, no, I was born,

00:47:34.980 uh, if you're, if it would be 2001.

00:47:37.600 Uh, so I was born about a year before, uh, George W. Bush took office.

00:47:41.860 So I didn't know, I never knew that George Stephanopoulos worked for Clinton until, um, years later,

00:47:47.680 until I became politically involved.

00:47:48.980 But as a kid watching the news, this is a guy that's put in front of you and, and they tell

00:47:53.180 you, Hey, this is objective news.

00:47:54.980 And they teach you that in the universities.

00:47:56.700 They teach you that in the schools.

00:47:57.900 They teach you that, uh, your whole life.

00:48:00.080 And the idea that that news that people think is objective, unbiased, um, is actually coming

00:48:06.420 from literal Democrat operatives, um, is pretty concerning.

00:48:10.120 And I think also, uh, Ronna McDaniel, you're right.

00:48:13.900 The groveling, the, the going back on everything.

00:48:16.640 And I, I, her situation highlights to me something that I've believed for a long time.

00:48:21.700 And that is, you can, you can fake it.

00:48:25.400 You can, you can act like you're, uh, your, you can still be part of their, you know, establishment

00:48:30.640 club that you will be accepted in the establishment political classes.

00:48:34.440 But once you in any way go against the Democrat media complex, whether that's in your work,

00:48:41.100 like Ronna McDaniel did in, in symbol, I guess she didn't really act towards, uh, going

00:48:47.580 after the Democrat media complex or, or politically, uh, damaging them, even though that was her

00:48:52.900 job, she didn't do it effectively. 0.99

00:48:54.460 Um, but even if you're a milquetoast Republican who, who basically goes back on everything,

00:49:00.420 she gave Chuck Todd everything he wanted in that interview saying she didn't support Trump,

00:49:05.380 uh, like you said, groveling, uh, she still got fired. 1.00

00:49:08.800 And the point is that you can either stand up for what is right, or you can get screwed 0.75

00:49:14.000 over.

00:49:14.400 And that's what happens, uh, in, in my, in, in my view, anybody that isn't fully committed

00:49:20.100 to the truth, anybody that isn't fully committed to, uh, what they believe in, then you're, you're, 0.57

00:49:26.980 you're totally screwed, especially in the face of the Democrat media complex.

00:49:29.980 Cause when it comes to their people, Roger, they're in lockstep, they are in total lockstep, 0.99

00:49:36.100 whether it comes to, uh, like we said, George Stephanopoulos, Jen Psaki, any of these people,

00:49:40.580 they defend them to the death and they will actually say with a straight face, no, I love

00:49:45.660 their journalism.

00:49:46.520 They're so great knowing that it's biased, but also knowing that there's a segment of

00:49:50.600 the population that won't pay attention to the fact that she came from the Biden white 0.91

00:49:54.580 house or that Stephanopoulos came from the Biden white house and that millions of people

00:49:58.300 will be influenced by this fake unbiased reporting that we see, uh, in ABC, NBC, and so many

00:50:05.180 others.

00:50:05.700 All right, we're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back with the stone

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00:53:55.560 Let's wrap this up.

00:53:57.720 You have the final say.

00:54:00.040 Well, Roger, just before we get out of here, there's a really short clip we want to play

00:54:03.300 of Larry David, the creator of Curb Your Enthusiasm, having a meltdown about former President Donald

00:54:09.860 Trump.

00:54:10.240 Let's roll that clip now. 0.95

00:54:12.140 I can't go a day without thinking about what he's done to this country because he's such

00:54:21.000 a little baby that he's thrown 250 years of democracy out the window by not accepting

00:54:28.920 the results of it.

00:54:29.780 I mean, it's so crazy. 1.00

00:54:31.660 He's such a sociopath. 1.00

00:54:33.440 He's so insane. 1.00

00:54:34.860 He just couldn't admit to losing. 0.95

00:54:37.560 And we know he lost.

00:54:39.080 He knows he lost.

00:54:41.000 And look how he's fooled everybody.

00:54:43.980 He's convinced all these people that he didn't lose. 1.00

00:54:47.660 He's such a sick man. 1.00

00:54:50.820 He's so sick. 0.99

00:54:52.860 Anyway, no, it hasn't impacted me at all.

00:54:56.780 Your thoughts, Roger?

00:54:58.700 What an elitist.

00:54:59.760 What he's done for the country.

00:55:02.680 What do you think he's talking about?

00:55:03.980 Could it be the most robust economy in our history?

00:55:07.180 Or maybe it was the lowest levels of unemployment among African-Americans and Hispanic Americans

00:55:12.920 that Larry didn't like.

00:55:14.000 Or maybe it was the record low inflation or the record low gasoline prices.

00:55:19.720 Or maybe it was the criminal justice reform in which people caught with small amounts of drugs for personal use who had no prior criminal record were not locked in prison for the rest of their lives.

00:55:31.780 I mean, what part of the Trump legacy is it that Larry objects to?

00:55:36.760 Does this guy ever get out of Hollywood?

00:55:38.600 I mean, does he think he really knows any real people?

00:55:41.620 I kind of doubt it. 1.00

00:55:43.040 I think he's funny, but I also think he's a jerk. 0.99

00:55:47.160 Well, it's funny for me just to, you know, I think for a lot of people out there to watch the total meltdown. 0.98

00:55:55.220 And, you know, if you need any motivation to vote for Trump in 2024, I know there's going to be a lot of people going to the ballot box just to see, Roger, my goal, I want to see Jen Psaki cry on election night.

00:56:07.000 And I think a lot of people do want to see Van Jones have another freak out.

00:56:11.060 We want to see Rachel Maddow freak out. 0.93

00:56:13.160 We want to see everybody freak out.

00:56:15.080 And that, I think, is motivation for millions of people to go to the ballot box, I think.

00:56:21.420 All right.

00:56:22.360 I think we have to wrap it up here for the day, folks.

00:56:25.480 So please have a blessed, joyous and restful Easter.

00:56:30.140 God bless you.

00:56:31.220 He has risen.

00:56:32.680 We'll see you Monday on the Stone Zone.

00:56:35.420 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.

00:56:44.700 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.

00:56:47.140 Roger Stone.

00:56:48.220 Where's Roger Stone?

00:56:49.320 aking up.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 29, 2024

RFK’s VP Choice Backfires Badly — Good News For Trump! — The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone!

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