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00:00:45.460 Yesterday, we had Mark Vargas, the editor-in-chief of the Illinois Review,

00:00:50.840 reporting on the shocking developments in Chicago.

00:00:54.980 Yesterday, we reported that on Saturday,

00:00:58.460 the Chicago police were ordered to stand down

00:01:01.700 after a group of ICE agents were surrounded and in distress

00:01:08.400 under attack from radical Antifa operatives

00:01:12.440 in the city's Brighton Park neighborhood.

00:01:15.100 Turns out that stand-down order came from the mayor and the governor themselves.

00:01:19.500 There's some question as to whether they have some serious legal liability.

00:01:23.480 But to get an assessment of the entire situation on the ground in Chicago,

00:01:27.940 joining me now is the former commissioner of the Chicago Police Department, Richard Breczak.

00:01:35.420 He is a hard-nosed, non-political, by-the-book, highly respected law enforcement officer and attorney.

00:01:45.300 As someone who rose from being a simple patrolman in the Chicago Police Department to the top job

00:01:50.860 under one of Chicago's greatest mayors, Jane Byrne, who was a good friend of mine.

00:01:57.300 And trust me, although she may have been a Mondale delegate,

00:02:01.740 she definitely voted for Ronald Reagan.

00:02:03.740 But, Richard, thank you for joining us today on the show.

00:02:08.460 I want to get your assessment of these shocking events.

00:02:12.480 The idea that fellow law enforcement officers would be physically endangered

00:02:17.700 and the Chicago police would stand idly by,

00:02:22.440 I guess this is consistent with what you told us about the politicization

00:02:26.300 of the once-great Chicago Police Department.

00:02:28.700 That's absolutely correct, Roger.

00:02:32.380 You have two people, Brandon Johnson, the DEI mayor of Chicago.

00:02:39.880 That's dumb, evil, and incompetent, not the other DEI.

00:02:44.380 But you've got him and you've got Pritzker,

00:02:48.360 the wannabe next Democrat candidate for president in 2028,

00:02:53.480 trying to make a name for themselves with their continuing anti-police decisions and activity.

00:03:03.620 And when I say anti-police, they're telling the police to step down.

00:03:10.160 It's not trying to protect the Chicago police from harm.

00:03:15.040 They're trying to really embarrass the police.

00:03:17.900 The police, because of what happened,

00:03:20.040 the Chicago Police Department is really kind of like the laughingstock of the United States,

00:03:25.820 especially among the major cities,

00:03:28.000 because that kind of order to stand down is disgraceful.

00:03:34.420 It's despicable.

00:03:36.200 It's a shameful, shameful order.

00:03:39.920 Well, Richard, it appears, based on everything I have read,

00:03:44.100 that this order was handed down to the Chicago Police Department

00:03:47.260 from Mayor Johnson and Governor Pritzker.

00:03:50.920 And many, many legal analysts believe that that puts both of them in legal jeopardy,

00:03:59.740 that they could be held responsible in a spiraling legal crisis,

00:04:04.320 because that is patently illegal,

00:04:07.980 and they may have personal liability for anyone who is injured.

00:04:11.080 And the president himself today blasted both Pritzker and Johnson,

00:04:16.780 saying they should both be in jail for issuing these executive orders

00:04:20.420 that prohibit the Chicago Police Department from obstructing federal law.

00:04:26.300 This is shocking that in the once great city of Chicago,

00:04:31.440 where Richard J. Daley, I don't mean Richie Daley,

00:04:34.260 I mean Mayor Daley, who was the mayor during the 1968 Democrat Convention,

00:04:40.040 a man who was seen on national television but not heard,

00:04:43.940 saying two uncouth words at Abe Bribikov,

00:04:48.240 who was making an anti-war speech from the platform.

00:04:52.160 Daley was a stout supporter of the Vietnam War,

00:04:55.040 Lyndon Baines Johnson's conduct of it,

00:04:57.380 and he opposed those in his party,

00:05:00.420 like Eugene McCarthy and later Robert Kennedy,

00:05:04.080 who broke with Johnson over the war.

00:05:07.540 So I saw that the president ordered the Texas National Guard,

00:05:14.260 or arranged for the Texas National Guard,

00:05:16.200 sent 300 guardsmen to Chicago,

00:05:19.820 Commissioner Brzezak.

00:05:21.620 Can they be effective with that smaller force?

00:05:25.680 Sure, they can be effective.

00:05:27.080 You know, well-trained personnel can be effective.

00:05:31.420 And at the same time,

00:05:32.640 there are other significantly large law enforcement agencies

00:05:37.560 in the Chicago area,

00:05:40.020 starting with the Chicago Police Department,

00:05:42.300 whereby they can assemble large numbers of officers,

00:05:46.360 you know, with the appropriate riot gear,

00:05:48.980 if they need that,

00:05:50.300 to go into an area fairly, fairly quickly.

00:05:54.860 The thing is, is that this is a political game

00:05:59.680 being played by two amateurs,

00:06:02.520 Brandon Johnson and J.B. Pritzker in Illinois.

00:06:07.340 And President Trump is absolutely correct.

00:06:11.700 It isn't, you know,

00:06:13.480 I'm not sure about the civil liability of the mayor and the governor,

00:06:18.960 because I'm just not,

00:06:20.960 I haven't really looked at that area of law recently,

00:06:23.700 but the president is absolutely correct,

00:06:26.660 because any action by a local official

00:06:29.880 to interfere with, obstruct, obscure,

00:06:34.580 defeat the actions of federal law enforcement officers,

00:06:40.060 whether it's by action or a refusal of an action,

00:06:46.520 can subject them to criminal prosecution

00:06:50.000 for interfering with a federal law enforcement officer.

00:06:54.420 And they don't really care.

00:06:55.960 Let me make clear to people, just so you know,

00:06:58.500 Richard Brzezak has not only served the city

00:07:02.120 as probably their last great police commissioner,

00:07:05.320 but he also is an attorney.

00:07:07.560 He was a partner at the firm of Levy & Aarons,

00:07:10.900 where he was specialized in commercial litigation,

00:07:14.140 bankruptcy, and real estate law,

00:07:15.900 and later went into private practice,

00:07:17.740 concentrating primarily in criminal defense,

00:07:20.500 was experienced with civil jury trials,

00:07:22.540 administrative hearings,

00:07:23.400 criminal and civil practices,

00:07:25.140 and the state and federal courts.

00:07:26.600 So he's not just a law enforcement officer,

00:07:28.700 he's a skilled attorney,

00:07:31.080 so I give great weight to his words

00:07:33.580 regarding the possible penalties here.

00:07:37.920 Richard is a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School.

00:07:43.040 So it's amazing to me that J.B. Pritzker

00:07:46.320 and Mayor Johnson,

00:07:48.000 Johnson says the Republicans want a civil war,

00:07:52.040 yet he's the guy who has hooligans

00:07:55.260 throwing bricks, rocks, bottles,

00:07:58.620 swinging clubs at police officers.

00:08:01.920 He's the one who has Antifa operatives

00:08:05.280 surrounding and endangering ICE agents

00:08:08.860 who are merely trying to carry out

00:08:10.980 their responsibilities of arresting

00:08:13.860 and deporting some of the most dangerous,

00:08:16.460 vile criminals in society.

00:08:19.680 This administration recognizes

00:08:21.720 that there are many people in the country illegally

00:08:24.600 who are peaceful

00:08:25.620 and the emphasis has been on identifying

00:08:28.280 those who have criminal records,

00:08:30.240 either here or substantial criminal records,

00:08:33.100 where they came from

00:08:34.260 and deporting them first.

00:08:36.440 But that is not being assisted

00:08:40.520 by the Pritzker-Johnson Brigade.

00:08:45.680 The politicization of the Chicago Police Department,

00:08:48.940 Richard,

00:08:49.200 this is not something that happened yesterday,

00:08:51.240 is it?

00:08:51.640 No, it isn't.

00:08:54.000 It started under Richard M. Daley,

00:08:57.560 the second Daley mayor.

00:08:59.140 Richard.

00:08:59.660 He's the one that began the program

00:09:02.900 with his so-called merit appointments

00:09:05.900 in promotions.

00:09:07.900 These are people who couldn't pass promotional exams,

00:09:11.720 but were promoted anyway

00:09:13.240 because they had political connections.

00:09:15.660 And they even were so bold

00:09:17.680 to post the list

00:09:19.040 of the political merit appointees

00:09:22.360 as to who their sponsor was.

00:09:24.980 It could be an alderman.

00:09:26.220 It could be a state senator.

00:09:27.540 It could be a U.S. congressman or senator.

00:09:30.500 They posted, you know,

00:09:31.680 their sponsor right there,

00:09:32.940 made no bones about it.

00:09:34.500 I mean, you talk about chutzpah.

00:09:36.980 At least in the old days

00:09:38.340 when they fixed the promotion list,

00:09:40.340 you know, they fixed it in secret,

00:09:41.740 you know, and made it look like it was,

00:09:43.840 you know, legitimate

00:09:45.640 until the U.S. government's

00:09:47.340 Civil Rights Division

00:09:48.300 of the Justice Department

00:09:49.820 came in in 1972

00:09:51.220 and legitimatized all the exams.

00:09:54.460 But, you know,

00:09:55.240 what happens here

00:09:56.220 is they just do what they want.

00:09:58.980 We see it not only in Chicago.

00:10:00.960 We saw it during the Biden administration

00:10:03.080 in Washington.

00:10:03.740 We saw it in the Obama administration

00:10:06.480 in Washington.

00:10:07.240 You see it with Hochul up in New York,

00:10:10.100 you know, any place.

00:10:10.840 Newsom in California.

00:10:12.660 They just do what they want.

00:10:14.100 They don't care about consequences

00:10:16.600 because, you know,

00:10:18.160 they're so corrupt.

00:10:19.940 You know, it's gotten to the point

00:10:21.660 where corruption to them

00:10:23.160 is their new normal.

00:10:25.120 And that's the way it is.

00:10:26.640 And they've always been corrupt,

00:10:28.800 but now it's openly,

00:10:30.580 outwardly corrupt.

00:10:32.060 And the problem is,

00:10:33.520 is that President Trump

00:10:35.420 is taking the position

00:10:36.900 of cleaning up the corruption,

00:10:41.240 cleaning up the crime,

00:10:43.120 cleaning up the politicization,

00:10:45.340 where people have, you know,

00:10:46.700 the rate to vote has been affected.

00:10:48.720 They've been denied

00:10:49.440 because of the vote fixing.

00:10:51.600 You know, that's been going on

00:10:52.560 all the time in the Democratic city.

00:10:55.060 Wait a minute.

00:10:55.440 Vote fixing in Chicago?

00:10:57.040 I've never heard of such a thing.

00:10:58.720 It's amazing.

00:10:59.460 A few days ago,

00:11:00.860 Mayor Johnson signed an executive order

00:11:03.680 that designates parts of the city of Chicago

00:11:05.600 as ice-free zones.

00:11:08.660 The order bars city police

00:11:10.100 from sharing information

00:11:11.180 with federal immigrant officials

00:11:14.560 or assisting in arrests involving illegals.

00:11:17.560 Johnson said the policy was intended

00:11:19.060 to protect immigrant communities.

00:11:21.480 What about protecting

00:11:22.240 the law-abiding citizens

00:11:23.320 of the city of Chicago?

00:11:24.680 I guess he doesn't care about that.

00:11:26.220 By the way,

00:11:27.380 virtual all legal analysts say

00:11:29.160 that this order signed by the mayor

00:11:31.660 is a blatant violation of federal law,

00:11:35.500 specifically violates

00:11:36.940 8 U.S. Code 1324

00:11:39.880 as it is a felony

00:11:41.140 to conceal, harbor, or shield

00:11:43.140 from detection

00:11:44.160 an individual known to be

00:11:45.580 in the country illegally.

00:11:46.980 Anyone, whether a private citizen

00:11:48.360 or an elected official

00:11:49.600 who aids and abets such actions

00:11:51.580 could face up to five years in prison

00:11:54.140 or more if the offense involves violence

00:11:56.820 or results in injury.

00:11:59.340 So it sounds to me

00:12:01.340 like Pritzker and,

00:12:04.660 pardon me, Johnson,

00:12:05.960 perhaps Pritzker,

00:12:07.200 if he also was a party of this,

00:12:09.940 which you know he was,

00:12:11.660 could have a serious problem.

00:12:13.060 Additionally,

00:12:13.440 other legal analysts point out

00:12:15.060 that 18 U.S. Codes,

00:12:17.340 Section 111,

00:12:18.480 makes it a crime

00:12:19.060 to forcibly audit,

00:12:20.740 resist, oppose,

00:12:22.000 impede,

00:12:22.520 intimidate,

00:12:22.960 or interfere

00:12:23.480 with federal officers

00:12:25.020 engaged in their duties,

00:12:26.560 which is punishable

00:12:27.480 by up to eight years in prison

00:12:29.540 if the officer is injured.

00:12:32.200 And then, of course,

00:12:32.980 18 U.S. Code 1505

00:12:35.000 criminalizes obstruction

00:12:36.620 of federal proceedings

00:12:37.780 or investigations

00:12:38.600 carrying an additional penalty

00:12:40.640 for up to five years.

00:12:42.940 I'll tell you this,

00:12:43.840 J.B. Pritzker would lose

00:12:45.180 some weight in prison,

00:12:46.300 that's for sure.

00:12:47.840 Well, yeah,

00:12:48.840 he'd probably be,

00:12:49.960 you know,

00:12:50.460 holding court in prison,

00:12:52.540 talking to all his

00:12:55.100 Democrat voters

00:12:56.860 who put him into office

00:12:58.280 even while they were in prison

00:13:00.840 about how great he is.

00:13:02.640 But the problem is

00:13:03.660 that these people

00:13:04.680 simply, you know,

00:13:07.120 want to demonstrate

00:13:08.920 their pejorative ignorance.

00:13:11.280 You know,

00:13:11.760 Johnson would be better off

00:13:13.360 if he created

00:13:14.820 ice-free zones

00:13:16.820 in his frozen brain.

00:13:18.480 It would maybe loosen up

00:13:19.700 a little bit

00:13:20.360 and he could see

00:13:21.360 what the law is

00:13:22.560 and what, you know,

00:13:23.640 people are entitled to

00:13:25.260 in terms of overall safety.

00:13:27.940 Brandon Johnson

00:13:28.840 is an embarrassment.

00:13:30.240 First of all,

00:13:30.560 he has a 6% approval rating.

00:13:33.660 My sources tell me

00:13:34.500 that he's in and out

00:13:35.480 of the hospital

00:13:36.020 with panic attacks.

00:13:37.760 He's not up to this job.

00:13:39.420 He spews nonsense

00:13:41.280 about civil war

00:13:43.260 and he keeps calling

00:13:45.200 on the city,

00:13:46.960 residents of the city

00:13:48.180 to rise up

00:13:49.300 and resist

00:13:50.000 these federal officers

00:13:51.840 doing their duty.

00:13:53.000 That's an act of insurrection.

00:13:55.160 I think that's

00:13:55.980 highly illegal.

00:13:57.660 He also said,

00:13:58.780 this shocks me,

00:13:59.780 but I do love it,

00:14:01.240 he said that

00:14:02.140 all of the problems

00:14:03.180 of the city of Chicago,

00:14:04.740 including the rise in crime,

00:14:06.200 were Richard Nixon's fault.

00:14:08.220 Richard Nixon's been dead

00:14:10.760 for 40 years.

00:14:13.500 I think what this lame brain

00:14:15.020 was trying to say

00:14:15.920 is that Nixon's

00:14:17.340 Southern strategy

00:14:18.580 is a cause of New York,

00:14:21.080 of the country's

00:14:22.120 racial problems.

00:14:22.980 Let's be very clear.

00:14:24.020 Richard Nixon,

00:14:25.100 who desegregated

00:14:26.320 the public schools,

00:14:27.720 86% of public schools

00:14:29.320 were segregated

00:14:30.460 when Nixon became president.

00:14:31.820 When he left office,

00:14:32.820 that number was 16

00:14:33.960 with no bloodshed,

00:14:35.940 done totally legally

00:14:37.340 through lawsuits.

00:14:38.620 Nobody killed,

00:14:39.940 no violence.

00:14:41.020 Richard Nixon,

00:14:41.960 who tripled the funding

00:14:43.940 for black colleges.

00:14:46.420 Richard Nixon,

00:14:47.440 who increased ninefold

00:14:49.740 civil rights,

00:14:51.560 law enforcement

00:14:52.280 in the U.S. Justice Department.

00:14:53.900 Richard Nixon,

00:14:54.620 who gave us

00:14:55.400 affirmative action,

00:14:58.540 which many of my

00:14:59.180 conservative friends despise,

00:15:00.760 but was a huge leg up

00:15:02.520 for the black community.

00:15:03.380 So the myth

00:15:04.160 of the Southern strategy

00:15:05.860 that Nixon,

00:15:08.140 yes,

00:15:08.520 he did have to run

00:15:09.800 between Hubert Humphrey

00:15:11.900 on his left

00:15:12.460 and George Wallace

00:15:13.340 on his right

00:15:14.100 in the South

00:15:14.720 and carry those border

00:15:16.080 Southern states

00:15:16.860 in order to win

00:15:17.660 the 1960 election.

00:15:18.760 So the Southern strategy

00:15:20.700 of having a number

00:15:22.500 of conservatives

00:15:23.180 support you,

00:15:24.620 if you look at his

00:15:25.520 actual civil rights record,

00:15:27.740 well,

00:15:27.960 the 1958 Civil Rights Act

00:15:29.700 would not have passed

00:15:30.420 the U.S. Senate,

00:15:31.340 but for Vice President

00:15:32.400 Richard Nixon

00:15:33.040 going out

00:15:33.580 and rounding up the votes

00:15:35.000 for which Dr. Martin Luther King

00:15:36.980 wrote him a glowing letter.

00:15:38.580 So I'm not sure

00:15:39.400 what Brandon Johnson's

00:15:40.380 talking about,

00:15:42.040 the fact that he's

00:15:43.660 even in office

00:15:44.640 and that he continues

00:15:45.800 to impede

00:15:46.760 this heroic effort

00:15:49.180 where these

00:15:50.120 law enforcement officers

00:15:51.280 with ICE

00:15:51.860 are putting their lives

00:15:53.120 on the line

00:15:53.660 to fulfill their duties.

00:15:55.540 You would expect

00:15:56.340 that they could

00:15:57.180 have the local police

00:15:59.140 at their back

00:15:59.960 as opposed to

00:16:00.740 standing by idly

00:16:02.100 as their lives

00:16:03.820 are endangered.

00:16:05.220 Anyway,

00:16:06.300 we're with Richard Brzezak.

00:16:07.740 He's the former

00:16:09.240 commissioner

00:16:09.660 of Chicago Police

00:16:10.820 and we'll be right back.

00:16:14.260 The Stone Zone,

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00:16:16.120 and informative

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00:16:23.480 Thank you for

00:16:24.820 staying with us

00:16:26.020 here in the Stone Zone.

00:16:27.480 We're talking to

00:16:28.580 Richard Brzezak,

00:16:29.960 the former commissioner

00:16:31.460 of the Chicago

00:16:33.240 Police Department

00:16:34.400 in the once great

00:16:35.540 windy city.

00:16:36.880 Chicago used to be 0.64

00:16:37.620 known as a city

00:16:38.380 that worked.

00:16:39.380 That's when

00:16:39.820 Richard J. Daly

00:16:41.320 was mayor,

00:16:42.720 succeeded by

00:16:43.520 his able,

00:16:44.680 a taxi commissioner,

00:16:46.340 Jane Byrne,

00:16:47.260 who was a great woman,

00:16:48.480 a great mayor.

00:16:50.040 She served

00:16:51.080 when Richard Brzezak

00:16:52.580 was the police commissioner.

00:16:54.580 I think the police,

00:16:55.420 the Chicago Police Department

00:16:57.100 really went downhill

00:16:58.020 under Rahm Emanuel

00:16:59.620 in an incredible scandal

00:17:01.640 where the department

00:17:03.540 essentially hid evidence

00:17:05.000 regarding a shooting

00:17:06.440 of, I think it was

00:17:08.160 an African-American

00:17:09.720 by officers

00:17:11.560 who were white.

00:17:12.700 Tell us about that,

00:17:13.440 Richard.

00:17:14.540 That was the

00:17:15.140 Laquan McDonald case.

00:17:17.360 What happened is

00:17:18.760 there probably were

00:17:20.260 two dozen to 15 officers

00:17:23.100 at the scene.

00:17:24.900 Nobody had their guns out.

00:17:26.560 The kid was a little hyper

00:17:28.600 and he had a small knife

00:17:30.140 in his hand,

00:17:30.760 although you can get hurt

00:17:31.640 by a small knife

00:17:32.540 very seriously

00:17:33.360 and they were keeping him

00:17:35.140 at bay

00:17:35.660 and one of the last cars

00:17:38.180 that pulled up,

00:17:39.880 the officer got out

00:17:41.020 of his car,

00:17:41.680 walked around the car,

00:17:42.860 took his gun out

00:17:43.760 and he put 16 shots

00:17:46.540 into Laquan McDonald.

00:17:49.060 Even after he went down,

00:17:50.760 he was shooting

00:17:51.300 into his body

00:17:52.240 and no one thought

00:17:54.380 that this was ever

00:17:55.260 going to get out

00:17:56.020 because they had

00:17:57.940 an informal policy

00:17:59.480 in Chicago

00:18:00.200 to turn the in-car

00:18:01.860 cameras off

00:18:02.840 and one car

00:18:04.520 had an in-car camera

00:18:06.000 that happened

00:18:06.500 to be going

00:18:07.120 and it caught

00:18:08.520 the whole thing.

00:18:09.540 It happened right

00:18:10.300 in front of that car's camera

00:18:12.440 and all hell broke loose.

00:18:16.100 Not right away

00:18:17.040 because while the bosses

00:18:18.660 and Rahm Emanuel

00:18:20.120 knew about it

00:18:21.040 the next morning

00:18:21.880 as to what exactly happened,

00:18:24.120 it took a freelance reporter,

00:18:26.020 not the fake news

00:18:27.360 that's in Chicago,

00:18:28.340 who protects

00:18:29.480 all the Democrats

00:18:30.460 over there all the time,

00:18:32.080 but an independent reporter

00:18:33.700 who got a Freedom

00:18:35.380 of Information Act

00:18:36.280 request granted

00:18:37.140 by a judge

00:18:37.920 who ordered the video

00:18:39.460 to be released

00:18:40.440 and they went

00:18:42.120 into high gear.

00:18:43.200 The Democrats,

00:18:44.000 state's attorney,

00:18:44.780 the prosecutor of the county,

00:18:46.660 indicted the shooting officer

00:18:48.140 the day before

00:18:49.300 the judge released

00:18:51.100 the video.

00:18:53.300 So, you know,

00:18:53.720 everything was,

00:18:54.500 you know,

00:18:55.120 CYA. 0.69

00:18:55.940 CYA. 0.69

00:18:57.320 Wow, that's extraordinary.

00:18:59.100 Yeah, Rahm Emanuel,

00:19:00.920 who I hear, by the way,

00:19:02.340 is actually thinking

00:19:03.040 about running for president.

00:19:04.620 I know that sounds crazy,

00:19:07.260 but he recognizes

00:19:08.440 the total absence

00:19:09.440 of a field

00:19:10.220 and he is a wily, 0.66

00:19:13.040 canny guy 1.00

00:19:13.860 who understands the game.

00:19:15.300 Not an admirer

00:19:16.120 by any means,

00:19:17.060 but he didn't get

00:19:18.620 to be mayor of Chicago

00:19:19.480 for no reason.

00:19:20.740 He did not get

00:19:22.200 to elect a president

00:19:23.160 for no reason.

00:19:25.060 All right,

00:19:25.300 I'm afraid we have

00:19:25.980 to leave it there.

00:19:26.700 I want to thank our guest,

00:19:27.900 former police commissioner

00:19:28.940 Richard Brzezak,

00:19:29.820 who always brings

00:19:31.140 the heat

00:19:31.720 and the real authority

00:19:33.240 on what's going on

00:19:34.100 on the ground

00:19:35.180 in the Windy City.

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