The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - RINO Plot To Turn House Over To Dems Who Will Bar Trump From Running

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.

00:00:07.220 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:11.240 He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald

00:00:15.960 Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,

00:00:20.920 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the

00:00:25.980 Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,

00:00:31.120 Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:39.480 Welcome. I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in The Stone Zone. This would be what my good friend

00:00:46.760 Alex Jones would call an emergency broadcast. That's because my co-host Troy Smith and I have

00:00:53.560 uncovered the plot to take control of the House of Representatives from the Republicans and hand

00:01:00.320 it to the Democrats in order to pass legislation invited by the Supreme Court in their Colorado

00:01:07.300 decision that would have the effect of barring Donald Trump from being elected president or

00:01:13.200 actually being on the ballot. You might have heard the Republicans are close to losing their lead in

00:01:18.480 the House. This worry gets much bigger with news that Congressman Mike Gallagher is stepping down

00:01:24.420 on April 19th. After he leaves, Republicans will barely have more members than Democrats.

00:01:30.440 Let us explain why this is important. There's 435 seats in the House of Representatives.

00:01:37.380 The Republicans need at least 218 members to control the House. If there's a tie with each party having

00:01:44.800 217 and one person is theoretically an independent, that person has a lot of power. So what is the

00:01:53.800 situation today? Well, Republicans currently have 219 seats. Democrats have 213 seats. When Ken Buck,

00:02:03.840 a Republican, leaves his job on Friday, the Colorado Republican has resigned. That will leave the Republicans at

00:02:13.420 218 members. After Gallagher leaves, that will leave the Republicans at 217. Now there's going to be an

00:02:22.440 election in one of the Democrats' seats, which is empty, on April 30th. That will add another Democrat to

00:02:30.240 the House. By the end of April, Republicans will have 217 members and Democrats will have 214. It seems like

00:02:39.060 Republicans have a slight edge with three more members than Democrats, but 217 plus 214 is 431,

00:02:47.620 not a total of 435. That means that 217 votes are needed to get anything done, showing how important

00:02:56.300 it is and also unlikely that all Republicans will stick together. A few Republicans obviously are not

00:03:03.320 copacetic with the America first agenda. The bad news for Republicans is that Gallagher is leaving when it's too

00:03:11.160 late to have a quick vote to replace him. That means his seat will be empty, a loss for the Republicans. According to

00:03:18.620 Wisconsin law, if he resigns before the second Tuesday in April, a special election would be held to replace him and

00:03:25.940 bring in likely another Republican from this heavily red district. But if he resigns as planned, his seat will remain

00:03:33.100 vacant until after the November election. If there is any good news, it is that there will be three special

00:03:38.920 elections in May and June to fill some empty Republican seats, which would be good if the Republicans can

00:03:45.280 manage to win them. But this helps only until June. If Republicans do not stay united or if even one or two

00:03:55.680 members break away, Democrats could take over control of the House and pass the resolution put forward by

00:04:03.780 Jamie Raskin that would bar Donald Trump from being on the ballot this November. The Senate, controlled by

00:04:11.280 Democrats, 5149, would simply pass this killer piece of legislation. Now, the Supreme Court actually

00:04:19.860 invited this in their Colorado ballot access decision when they said that the Congress could

00:04:27.400 pass legislation barring Trump from the ballot on the basis of the claim that he had participated in

00:04:34.340 an insurrection. My co-host Troy Smith and I dug into this all weekend. Troy, welcome on to the Stone

00:04:41.660 Zone. Tell us what you found out about who's behind this nefarious plot to ban Donald Trump from the ballot.

00:04:49.860 Roger, thank you. As always, it's an honor to be here in the Stone Zone. And we released the

00:04:55.160 definitive piece on this on Slingshot News. I just want to thank everybody out there for sharing the

00:05:00.580 piece. It's got tremendous pickup nationwide. Different people are picking it up and talking

00:05:04.960 about it. And I think it's super important. Now, that article, Roger, as we were talking this

00:05:09.880 more or this weekend, we were kind of going over what's happening in the House as you just laid out

00:05:15.680 there. I immediately said to myself, I guarantee you that those people are funded by Paul Singer,

00:05:23.600 the people that are retiring early, the people that have left office already. So I started going down

00:05:29.700 the list of names. And now, Roger, there's 14 Republicans in total that have decided that they're

00:05:36.300 not going to run for reelection in 2024. Now, those include Patrick McHenry and others who have kind of

00:05:44.860 said, well, you know, we're not running. Greg Pence is another one. We're not running for reelection.

00:05:49.500 So I did some research on those 14. And I found that six of them have taken donations and many over

00:05:56.880 several years from billionaire hedge fund manager, Paul Singer. Now, Paul Singer is somebody that I've

00:06:04.340 covered in the past, Roger, because he has been an anti-Trump influence since the very beginning of

00:06:11.340 Donald Trump's candidacy. As you can see on the screen right now, in 2016, Paul Singer dumped

00:06:16.820 two and a half million dollars into a pack called Our Principles that then turned around and handed the

00:06:23.180 money to Marco Rubio. Now, whatever you think about Marco Rubio, at the time, he was one of the most

00:06:28.320 formidable challengers to President Trump. So funding his campaign made it seem like, okay, well, we can

00:06:33.960 challenge Trump. We can make sure he never gets the RNC nomination. That's Paul Singer. Then we move

00:06:39.120 on to 2024, Roger, and he's donating extensive amounts of money to Nikki Haley. As you can see on

00:06:44.840 the screen, he gave $5 million to the SFA fund pack, which is a Nikki Haley creation, which is basically

00:06:54.540 Nikki Haley's right-hand financial bank. That's exactly what it is. And so as you see here on the

00:07:03.520 screen, Roger, the plot by Singer to get Trump has been going for many, many years. And when you look

00:07:10.660 at what was going on between those elections, you find that Singer was actually responsible

00:07:16.060 for the creation of the research that led to the FISA warrants that were used to spy on President

00:07:23.080 Trump. Now, I say that because through the Washington Free Beacon, Singer funded the creation

00:07:28.360 of the research used in the Steele dossier that was eventually picked up by Fusion GPS.

00:07:33.440 So I think the main point here is, Roger, that we have a thread, a long thread of Paul Singer funding

00:07:41.040 efforts to stop Trump. And it hasn't relented at all. It didn't stop after 2016. It didn't stop

00:07:47.820 after 2020. And it hasn't stopped now. And as I was kind of examining all of these people's records

00:07:55.340 and looking at the donations, I started to realize that all, basically all of the Republicans minus

00:08:01.240 one that have resigned their position early have also taken donations from Paul Singer.

00:08:09.580 And I think this is something, as you see on the screen, Kay Granger, Greg Pence, all these people

00:08:16.280 have taken donations from Paul Singer. And it cannot be understated the level of the insidious nature of

00:08:25.280 Paul Singer and what he's done to cities, countries. When we talk about gutting the middle

00:08:32.200 America, Roger, when we talk about these companies leaving the United States, Paul Singer is the guy

00:08:39.260 that orchestrates that. Now, as I've stated before, I've always been a big fan of Tucker Carlson.

00:08:44.820 And one segment that he ran on Singer really actually opened my eyes to this. I think it was all

00:08:49.320 the way back in 2017. And I went back and I actually, we found a clip of that. So I want to

00:08:54.760 ask if we could play that now. Tucker Carlson digging in to who Paul Singer really is and the damage

00:09:00.500 this guy has done to America.

00:09:02.240 Has amassed a personal fortune of more than $3 billion. How has Singer made that money? We made

00:09:07.520 a lot of it by purchasing sovereign debt from financially distressed countries, countries that

00:09:11.840 were in trouble, usually at a massive discount. Once a country's economy regained some stability,

00:09:16.760 Singer would bombard his government with lawsuits, a massive public relations campaign originating

00:09:21.920 here in Washington, sometimes, until he made his money back with interest. The practice is called

00:09:27.320 vulture capitalism, feeding off the carcass of a dying nation. In some ways, it's not so different

00:09:32.880 from what Singer and his firm, Elliott Management, have done in this country and to this country.

00:09:38.280 Over the past couple of decades, Elliott Management has made billions by buying large stakes in

00:09:43.020 American companies, then firing workers, driving up short term share prices, and in some cases,

00:09:48.200 taking government bailouts. Insult to injury. Bloomberg News once described Singer as, quote,

00:09:53.220 the world's most feared investor. And that tells you a lot. No one's even pretending Paul Singer's

00:09:58.700 tactics are good for anyone but Paul Singer and his fund. Consider the case of Delphi,

00:10:04.360 the automotive parts supplier. During the last financial crisis, a consortium of hedge funds,

00:10:09.000 including Singer's Elliott Management, purchased Delphi. With Singer and the other funds at the

00:10:13.600 helm, the company took billions of dollars in government bailouts paid for by you. Obama's

00:10:18.760 auto czar compared those tactics to extortion, but they continued anyway. Once they had the bailout

00:10:24.220 money, the funds moved most of Delphi's jobs overseas and then either cut retiree pensions entirely

00:10:30.060 or shifted the cost to taxpayers. With later financial commitments at home and cheap factories

00:10:35.820 abroad, Delphi's stock soared. According to investigative reporter Greg Palast, of the 29

00:10:42.020 Delphi plants in operation when the hedge fund started buying Delphi's debt, only four were still

00:10:47.460 operating in the United States by 2012. That means tens of thousands of unionized and white-collar workers

00:10:53.760 lost their jobs. Paul Singer's hedge fund cashed out for more than a billion dollars. See how that works?

00:11:00.700 Well, some countries, including the United Kingdom, have banned this kind of behavior.

00:11:04.420 It bears no resemblance whatsoever to the capitalism we were promised in school.

00:11:08.960 It creates nothing. It destroys entire cities. It couldn't be uglier or more destructive.

00:11:15.040 So why is it still allowed in the United States? The short answer? Because people like Paul Singer

00:11:19.780 have tremendous influence over our political process. Singer himself was the second largest donor to the

00:11:25.780 Republican Party in 2016. He's given millions to a super PAC that supports Republican senators.

00:11:31.380 You may never have heard of Paul Singer, which tells you a lot in itself. But in Washington,

00:11:36.920 he is rock star famous. And that may be why he's almost certainly paying a lower effective tax rate

00:11:42.500 than your average fireman. Just in case you're still wondering if our system is rigged. Oh, yeah,

00:11:47.340 it is. Tonight, we want to tell you a little more about how Paul Singer does business.

00:11:51.540 The story begins in a small town called Sydney, Nebraska, population 6,282. Two hours outside

00:11:58.960 Denver, Sydney is the longtime home of the sporting goods retailer Cabela's, which sells fishing and

00:12:04.620 hunting gear. In October of 2015, Singer's hedge fund disclosed an 11 percent stake in Cabela's

00:12:10.880 and set about pushing the board to sell the company. Cabela's management, apparently fearing a long

00:12:16.200 costly fight with Singer, announced he would look for a buyer. Now, at the time, Cabela's was a

00:12:21.600 relatively healthy company. It was posting nearly two billion dollars a year in gross profits off four

00:12:27.420 billion dollars in revenue. There didn't seem to be any immediate need to sell. But Cabela's sold

00:12:33.100 anyway after being pushed. So one year after Singer entered the equation, Bass Pro Shops announced the

00:12:38.960 purchase of Cabela's. The company's stock price surged. Within a week, literally a week,

00:12:44.640 Paul Singer cashed out. He bought the stock for $38 a share. He sold it for $63 a share. His hedge

00:12:52.380 fund made at least $90 million up front and likely more over time. But in Sydney, Nebraska, it was a

00:12:59.020 very different story. The residents of Sydney did not get rich. Oh, no, just the opposite. Their

00:13:04.080 community was devastated, destroyed. The town lost nearly 2,000 jobs. A heartbreakingly familiar cascade

00:13:10.820 began. People left, property values collapsed, and then people couldn't leave. They were trapped

00:13:16.260 there. One of the last thriving small towns in this country went under. We recently sent...

00:13:22.560 Sound's rolling. All three cameras. We're good.

00:13:30.300 Amity and speed.

00:13:33.300 Is there any regrets that you have in life? I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot

00:13:38.560 of, yeah, I got a lot of regrets. But when I look back on my life, and I understand the

00:13:45.520 lives that were lost, I mean, I'm sitting here with you. And I can tell my story.

00:13:53.280 He was one of the most respected generals in the military. He was, by definition, the most

00:14:03.980 dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.

00:14:07.540 Only brilliant military career serving 33 miles. Why was he being so elusive?

00:14:12.440 Mike Flynn told the truth and faced life in prison.

00:14:14.980 MelissaHouseBG.com, Bella Grace Elixir, she called me today. And she told me something

00:14:37.980 and I said, you have got to tell the audience this. They need to hear this because it's really

00:14:42.440 good news for those of you that, well, are taking Bella Grace.

00:14:45.480 Well, I went to my hairdresser and I had not told her about this product that I've been

00:14:49.580 taking. When she was blow drying my hair, she said, you, I just noticed when I was parting

00:14:53.680 your hair and fixing it that you have a bunch of new hair growth. I've been going to this

00:14:58.300 lady for probably 13 years and she's never said that to me. And I had noticed it, but for

00:15:04.440 the fact that she, the fact that she noticed it was, I had to call Bran right away and tell

00:15:08.640 him, she just said, you've never had this like this and it's growing and you just have

00:15:12.080 all these baby hairs growing in and they're kind of curly. And so I just told her that

00:15:17.040 what I was taking and she was amazed. So Bella Grace Elixir, MelissaHouseBG.com.

00:15:26.660 Welcome back. I'm Roger Stone and you of course are in the Stone Zone. Today, we are exposing

00:15:31.840 the plot by a group of rhinos to turn over control of the U.S. House of Representatives to the Democrats

00:15:39.180 before November so that they can pass a resolution by, sponsored by Congressman Jamie Raskin that

00:15:47.820 declares Trump to be an insurrectionist and thus, if also passed by the Senate, which the

00:15:53.120 Democrats control, bar Trump from the ballot. The mathematics of this are not good as the

00:15:59.540 Republican margin has continued to dwindle. There are a number of empty seats, as my co-host

00:16:07.000 Troy Smith has outlined. Troy, this goes a little further now. So we've identified the

00:16:13.780 financier of this effort. It is Paul Singer. It just happens that he is a major donor to

00:16:20.560 all of these Republicans who have quit. In the meantime, you've also identified another

00:16:27.220 perp in this action and it's none other than Kevin McCarthy. Troy?

00:16:32.860 Absolutely. Absolutely, Roger. And if you examine the donations, there's nobody that Paul Singer has

00:16:38.140 donated more to than Kevin McCarthy in the last few years. He's given him over $1.8 million

00:16:43.460 dating back to 2020. If you go back to 2019, Roger, it's over $2 million. Kevin McCarthy has received

00:16:50.940 hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars from Paul Singer in recent months. And now he's doing a

00:16:57.120 media tour, Roger, where he is saying, oh, well, the Republicans lost the majority. He told Jesse

00:17:01.580 Waters of Fox News this. The Republicans lost the majority when they removed me as Speaker. If that

00:17:07.280 doesn't sound like a vindictive statement, I don't know what does. And I think it points towards what

00:17:12.300 McCarthy's role in all of this is. The Singer-funded Republicans are leaving the House, Roger. They're

00:17:17.980 retiring or they're not running for re-election because if the Democrats are able to regain control

00:17:23.780 of the House of Representatives before the November election, they can pass a law, as you stated,

00:17:29.280 that's already been put on the floor by Jamie Raskin, the swamp rat from Maryland. Jamie Raskin's

00:17:37.280 bill would prevent Donald Trump from being on the ballot in all 50 states because the Supreme Court

00:17:42.780 ruling, as many have misstated, Roger, it says the states don't have the power to remove somebody from

00:17:49.860 a federal election ballot, but Congress does. They can actually pass a law that bans somebody from

00:17:56.160 being on the ballot. Now, Kevin McCarthy is leading a rhino coalition to get people to leave the House

00:18:03.760 of Representatives to soft kill the president's, President Trump's campaign here. And I think the

00:18:10.340 ultimate goal, Roger, is to make it look like it's the Democrats who are the ones that are trying to

00:18:16.100 remove Trump from the ballot when really it's the Republicans simply quitting that will allow it to

00:18:21.720 happen. There's House Republicans are also undermining the president in another way. They

00:18:28.460 have put forward a proposal that would extend the age of retirement for an individual to get their

00:18:34.860 Social Security benefits. This is completely and totally advarianced and diametrically opposed

00:18:41.340 to the position of Donald J. Trump, who has always said and continues to say that he would not touch

00:18:47.640 anything regarding Social Security. That is a death wish. Remember, going into an election which the

00:18:54.620 Democrats and Joe Biden, presumably, will have unlimited money. And with unlimited money, you can prop up

00:19:02.560 paid advertising to claim anything you want. It doesn't have to be true. So they will say, for example,

00:19:10.260 Donald Trump made abortion illegal in America. Well, in some states, abortion is banned, but that's not a true

00:19:17.560 statement. Yes, under Roe v. Wade, the decisions regarding abortion were referred back to the

00:19:23.860 states. That's not the banning of abortion. But you would know that if you listen to any of the rhetoric

00:19:29.520 of Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or any of the Democrats. Now they will conflate this unless Trump strongly

00:19:36.000 denounces it and the House Republicans drop this stupid idea as a cut to Social Security. This is a death

00:19:43.480 wish. This is suicidal. Somebody here is not thinking. Well, Roger, and the worst part about

00:19:50.860 this is that it's the American people that get left in the lurch. It's the American people that

00:19:54.820 get left without a representative. It's the American people that will suffer under a Hakeem

00:19:59.280 Jeffries house. And yet these Republicans that hate Donald Trump, and I have to call them out,

00:20:05.780 Roger, because these people, they pretend like they are supporters of the president,

00:20:10.580 when in actuality, everything they do is a stab in his back. Everything they do is a knife twisting

00:20:17.920 in the back. Whether it's a Social Security thing, whether it's this mass retirement sponsored by Paul

00:20:23.620 Singer and led by Kevin McCarthy, every aspect of what the House Republicans are doing right now

00:20:28.780 is the antithesis of what their voter base wants. The antithesis of what President Donald Trump,

00:20:35.360 the Republican nominee for president, the leader of this party, wants. And I think, you know, it's just

00:20:41.960 an unbelievable situation. And the twist, Roger, that will come from the mainstream media is that,

00:20:47.760 oh, what the House Republicans are doing, that's the Trump Republicans. And I think we need to call

00:20:52.000 that out and say, no, that's a lie. That's a lie. And that's why I think also the president needs to

00:20:56.700 come out and condemn what the House Republicans are doing in terms of the mass retirement sponsored by

00:21:02.060 Paul Singer and also with the Social Security aspect, which I think is a brilliant point you

00:21:06.720 raise. The real tip off here is to examine the resignation of Mike Gallagher. Why would Gallagher

00:21:14.620 essentially post date or predate his resignation specifically at a time that he knows there can be

00:21:22.220 no special election to fill his seat? He has a solidly red district. Republicans would definitely win it.

00:21:28.600 We would not be in this precarious position. But for some reason, someone has persuaded Gallagher

00:21:34.960 not to resign until April 19th, which under state law makes it too late for an immediate special

00:21:41.940 election. That's the tip off that this whole thing is nefarious. That's the tip off that Gallagher

00:21:47.400 is doing this to try to hand over control of the House to Democrats. Who could have persuaded

00:21:53.940 Congressman Gallagher to do this other than perhaps Kevin McCarthy and Paul Singer? You heard

00:22:01.180 it here on the Stone Zone. Troy? Absolutely, Roger. And we need to get ahead of this. We need to get

00:22:07.740 ahead of this right now because there's a couple fronts right now, Roger, where they're closing in

00:22:11.840 on us, the American people. Congress is closing in on us. One is with this effort funded by Paul

00:22:20.740 Singer led by Kevin McCarthy to ban Donald Trump from the ballot. Their plan is to seek control of

00:22:27.500 the House to the Democrats so that the Democrats can take Trump off the ballot using the Supreme Court

00:22:33.140 ruling. Two, the TikTok ban passed by the House of Representatives, which we must add was objected to

00:22:40.200 by Donald Trump. Trump said, I don't support this bill. It was passed by the House Republicans and we need

00:22:45.640 our people to go out there and we need them to call their senators and we need them to say no TikTok bill.

00:22:50.240 You cannot ban websites because what that bill really is, Roger, is it's a dark horse that allows

00:22:57.540 the White House to ban sites that they disagree with. So the Congress has gotten completely out

00:23:02.400 of control and the illusion, you know, they're passing things, Roger, that aren't popular with

00:23:07.720 the Republican base. They're doing things that aren't popular with the Republican base. I think

00:23:11.580 we need everybody to call out Mike Gallagher. He needs to be expelled from the House. I agree

00:23:17.560 with Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's been calling for that in recent days. Mike Gallagher should not

00:23:23.300 be allowed to hamstring the entirety of the Republican Party and to interfere in a presidential

00:23:29.360 election by doing what he is doing. It is simply criminal and it's robbing 80 plus million Americans

00:23:37.060 of their vote in the next coming election. It's disgusting. It's a disgrace and it's completely

00:23:43.260 anti-American. We've talked at great length here on the Stone Zone about the need for election day

00:23:50.840 for reforms, election law reforms. The most important of those, of course, would be paper ballots. If

00:23:57.420 France can count 38 million paper ballots and do it in one day, well, there's no reason why the United

00:24:03.320 States can't do that. Our next guest on the Stone Zone is going to talk to us extensively

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00:26:14.040 welcome back i'm roger stone and you're in the stone zone i'm here with

00:26:24.660 troy smith the editor-in-chief at slingshot.news if you haven't subscribed there i strongly

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00:26:36.640 they're both absolutely free that's where you can get right away breaking stories like the one we

00:26:42.600 broke today about the nefarious rhino plot to get enough republican members to leave the house

00:26:49.000 caucus that we turn control of the house over to democrats who will then pass a resolution

00:26:54.940 sponsored and written by congressman jamie raskin the most odious member of congress that would bar

00:27:01.900 donald trump from being on the ballot this november if the senate controlled by democrats 5149

00:27:08.340 passed that same resolution it would be lights out for america by the way this particular move if

00:27:15.640 you're thinking well the courts will never allow that actually the supreme court specifically

00:27:19.620 recommended this course in their colorado decision that some in trump world celebrated all right i'm

00:27:27.320 back here with my co-host troy smith troy paper ballots are the answer to america's electoral

00:27:33.860 problems clint curtis is joining us now introduce our guest absolutely roger clint curtis is a legend

00:27:40.760 as far as election integrity is concerned and paper ballots uh he's actually his work has actually led

00:27:46.860 to several countries adapting paper ballots and he's gone before congress to testify on this uh matter

00:27:53.240 he's an exceptional uh person when it comes to election integrity and it's our honor to bring him

00:27:58.700 in here on the stone zone clint curtis welcome to the stone zone glad to be here sir well and uh

00:28:05.880 it's a uh it's a it's a fantastic honor to have you here sir so i'd like to uh we we want to start

00:28:11.420 off here with an uh a a short clip that i actually sent to our producers before the show here now this

00:28:19.500 clip uh it talks about you being a whistleblower as far as election integrity is concerned in the state

00:28:26.020 of florida and uh i think it's important that people see this before we have this interview

00:28:30.200 here the computer nothing you want so you could go to the screen hit some hidden buttons and flip the

00:28:36.280 vote and decide who the winner is just by doing that who did you say you were asked to prepare

00:28:42.100 i was asked by tom feeney that time he was speaker of the house of florida and he asked you to design a

00:28:50.880 code to recognize him yes while he was speaker of the florida house yes he wanted the source code

00:28:57.360 so that you when the manipulation happened you couldn't see it even if you saw the source code

00:29:01.860 this is to control the vote in south florida so i told her you can't do that you shouldn't do that

00:29:10.480 you know that'll get you in trouble and so you know with the bulk of finding out how dishonest

00:29:16.260 feeney and this company was it was time for me to leave so i quit and moved on i've been told

00:29:24.240 that people who assume that a large fraction of the election result may have been affected by

00:29:31.240 delivered for the computer are paranoid because in order to do that you have to have access to

00:29:41.820 thousands of machines to what extent is that true it depends on the technology you use if you did

00:29:47.940 a central tabulation machine that fed in all you'd have to do is set a flag so one person putting in

00:29:55.060 bad code in a central tabulation machine could infect thousands and thousands or tens of thousands of

00:30:00.220 votes right and your testimony is under oath yes sir and the testimony you've given is true yes sir

00:30:07.140 thank you soon after he testified clint curtis passed a lie detector test administered by the

00:30:17.300 retired chief polygraph operator for the florida department of law enforcement

00:30:22.080 curtis welcome to the stone zone uh governor ron de santis has said that uh when it comes

00:30:37.120 to elections and their integrity florida is the gold standard i don't agree with that i don't think

00:30:44.460 you do either that's a good place to start well if you're going to use computers and the gold

00:30:51.900 standard is to cheat then it might be but computers can never be trusted because the way it's set up

00:30:59.000 the people are blocked out of the election you're not allowed to see it you're not allowed to track it

00:31:04.200 and now you're not even allowed to complain about it or you're some sort of uh insurrectionist

00:31:08.620 and uh that testimony that i did was 20 years ago and nothing's been done to make it any better

00:31:17.560 even though everyone knows that computers are hackable and that the systems are very vulnerable

00:31:26.000 uh all of our internals to those machines are actually made in china and china's been caught

00:31:32.980 a dozen times inserting things into their machines in order to track in fact there was just a recent

00:31:38.340 one where they were actually tracking cranes that they had built so that they knew how many uh

00:31:44.480 how much cargo was being offloaded and so it's so simple to do and it's easy to hook up and they

00:31:52.520 confuse you by trying to tell you basically truths that are lies like well the machine's not hooked to

00:31:58.940 the internet well the internet is not necessary all you need is a network and if you plug it into a wall

00:32:05.480 you have a network because that's how we used to network back 20 years ago we could network right

00:32:11.540 through the house wiring there's also multiple protocols you can use bluetooth bluetooths are good

00:32:16.780 for half a mile now they're going to be up to a mile and a half shortly uh radio waves 30 miles

00:32:23.040 microwaves 50 miles so different ways of making them make that communication that connection

00:32:29.760 and you have to remember that if you set flags the connection is so small and so tight that you'd never

00:32:36.880 catch it even trying to monitor it so the only thing you can do if you want a fair election

00:32:42.020 is to get rid of the machines and actually do a hand count that every person is able to watch that

00:32:50.340 ballot and the count for every cast ballot and if you do that then we can have trust back in

00:32:56.520 elections and we can get elections that'll work again troy well uh in that video sir you talked about

00:33:04.440 actually someone actually trying to get you to rig an election and that was tom feeney could you talk

00:33:09.420 about that a little bit because that's just an unbelievable thing and it's uh it's just

00:33:13.520 unbelievable all right back in uh back in 2000 i was working for this company in obito florida tom

00:33:19.400 feeney was speaker of the florida house jeb bush's running mate this was the bush election if you

00:33:24.140 remember and he wanted me to write code the basically the prototype for the electronic voting machines

00:33:31.500 but as part of that prototype for the electronic voting machines he also wanted so that someone could

00:33:36.000 come up hit a few invisible buttons set a flag and cascade down and essentially it would influence

00:33:41.200 the whole election which any computer programmer could tell you is very very easy to do because you

00:33:48.960 are the god of that machine you control everything that happens you know some people say well we can

00:33:54.000 check the logs well logs don't exist unless i write them we can check ballot images there's no such thing as a ballot

00:34:00.000 image it's something i have to write as the programmer that takes that puts it in kind of like a i don't

00:34:06.240 know a battleship grid you call it array and then reproduces it somewhere else i can reproduce it as

00:34:13.200 it is or i can reproduce it anyway i want to it doesn't make any difference because i own that game and he

00:34:19.760 requested that and i handed it in say here it is and here's why you can never trust computers and what you have to do

00:34:25.840 and the head of the company said no we're actually going to try and use this and specifically they

00:34:31.200 named uh west palm beach as a area they were going to use because you don't in a presidential election

00:34:38.080 you don't have to win an election you just have to reduce the numbers down to where you want them to be

00:34:45.040 so let's take let's take the uh de santos election he won south florida do you know the odds in that

00:34:54.800 actually really happening it's almost impossible it's impossible it's it's you know 70 democrats so

00:35:03.920 70 democrats voted for de santos that none of the democrats like it just doesn't happen that way so

00:35:11.920 but does that mean he had the influence i'm not sure that's true because people doing the selection

00:35:20.560 don't necessarily have to coordinate with the candidate they just select the ones they think

00:35:25.520 will give them what they want and so our elections in the united states are not a nickel better than the

00:35:33.280 elections they have in the soviet union they're exactly the same the government controls it they

00:35:38.960 tell you who wins and if you try to investigate it they basically lock you out uh most people do not

00:35:46.640 know that florida republicans and governor ron de santos supported a package of election reforms that

00:35:54.240 in fact make the system far more opaque uh actually make it a felony if you harass that means ask a

00:36:01.200 question if you harass a a board of elections members there's a state association of election board heads

00:36:10.000 that they try to imply is some formal official governmental group it's a trade association it's

00:36:16.480 a private organization although our tax dollars are paying for it because each one of these

00:36:22.240 board of elections heads kicks in taxpayer money uh they are uh very very uh suspicious of any effort

00:36:32.320 to examine the actual vote count i had one supervisor said you're not going to you're not going to

00:36:38.720 audit my elections his elections hmm lake county uh very very strange we've had chris uh uh gleason on

00:36:49.120 the show a number of times who has demonstrated the many flaws in the florida system uh and we're going

00:36:56.400 to talk more about it clint let let's talk for a moment uh let's say just overnight you could move

00:37:02.400 florida or any of these states uh where you have mail-in ballots to paper ballots for election day voting

00:37:08.800 how would this uh address or can this address in any way the fraud that is inherent in mail-in balloting

00:37:17.600 absolutely you can at least address the fact that you can count the vote you also need to make sure

00:37:23.280 that those mail-in ballots are only counted in the precinct and that the supervisor elections ring

00:37:29.040 doesn't get to pre-open them because what we had down in uh broward county is we had a whistleblower

00:37:34.800 come forward and they basically said that broward county had a little room where they were sitting

00:37:39.520 and marking the ballots the way they wanted to and then when a mail-in ballot came in they would

00:37:43.760 simply throw it away and put in their own ballot which is very efficient you don't have to worry

00:37:48.240 about getting it right if you've already made sure you're going to get it wrong so they just throw

00:37:52.880 them away and use it and we saw that also in montana we saw um there's a video online somewhere i but we

00:37:58.880 actually talked to the person and uh essentially the supervisor elections was inserting ballots in

00:38:05.440 and shredding the originals in a shredder that got caught on camera what happened to them nothing

00:38:13.280 which is what always happens to them we could actually go to a better system almost instantly

00:38:20.240 there's it's not that hard it's actually very easy most countries like germany count all of their

00:38:25.360 ballots by hand do it in one night we need to do a little more than that we need to actually have

00:38:31.440 it on camera so he'll show you a video later we did this down in texas where you can see the ballot

00:38:36.400 see the count it's very fast doesn't take that many people although people are not a problem because like

00:38:42.720 in germany basically you just use the uh basically like a jury duty role and you get to count votes as

00:38:48.720 opposed to be on jury duty which means in germany because i talked to them in 2004 and they almost

00:38:54.320 immediately got rid of their ballots and went to a paper ballot and said it's unconstitutional using

00:38:59.520 machines because you can't really ever monitor them even if you wanted to but essentially you go to

00:39:06.240 that and you just do a jury system they come so in germany people volunteer for the elections because

00:39:11.440 that way they get off a jury duty and i don't know if you've ever been on jury duty but

00:39:15.520 i'd count elections all night long for that you know so um on last week we had mark fincham on the

00:39:23.120 show talking to us about the lawsuit uh that uh carrie lake and he uh and abe hamada have put before

00:39:31.120 the u.s supreme court pertaining to corruption within the machines have you had a chance to read that

00:39:38.000 updated suit and what is your opinion of it i have not read it um i don't know if they have a chance to

00:39:45.120 really get anywhere because most of the laws are written to keep you from checking elections

00:39:49.440 not to allow you to check them so um like trump trump was running for president and saying i don't

00:39:56.960 trust these machines and he was still not able to examine the machines or to look at the source code

00:40:04.000 so all the rules were kind of written against it but with mail-in ballots if you enforced a certain

00:40:11.040 level of protection as far as signatures and in arizona that didn't happen in arizona they draw a

00:40:17.040 smiley face and they'd accepted the signature you have to be able to make it so that doesn't happen

00:40:22.160 otherwise you get fake ballots coming in and then if the fake ballots come in counting them is a problem

00:40:28.720 as well so you're going to count a fake ballot because even if you count them so everybody can see

00:40:33.840 them and everybody knows it's the correct count it doesn't mean it's correct ballots unless you also

00:40:38.720 correct for that uh clint tell us about your efforts to get other countries to move to paper ballots

00:40:48.640 well we uh after 2000 after i basically told everybody what's going on um we got calls from

00:40:55.040 all over the world you know mexico and you know basically every germany germany was one of the first

00:41:02.320 ones which very interested the italians called they just had one and everything was really kooky

00:41:07.440 and it has been ever since we i wrote that thing in 2000 the ballots have never matched the polling

00:41:14.960 it always used to match the polling but now it doesn't why doesn't it because you just need to

00:41:20.320 switch a few things in 2018 on the netherlands called and essentially they had a an intrusion and

00:41:29.040 they caught the russians coming in and uh they asked me how they could get rid of that you know how

00:41:33.840 could they save their machines and i basically being able to smile like said you take them you

00:41:37.920 put them in a really tight cardboard box and then you throw them in the ocean because people want in

00:41:43.040 there they're in there and the russians are the ones you caught but it's the 27 other countries that are

00:41:49.680 also trying to poke in there that you didn't catch because everybody does this cyber stuff whenever they

00:41:55.840 have a chance to do so so if you have computers and they can get a put their thumb on the scale they're going

00:42:01.840 to try and do that and so they had i think it was six months prior to the election and they actually

00:42:09.200 converted over and counted it by hand and counted every vote and so everybody knew it was correct

00:42:16.960 and did it one night and haven't gone back and it's very simple to do in fact well and uh and clint i

00:42:24.880 wanted to ask you real quickly you know uh we're right before the show we were talking about the picture

00:42:29.680 behind you people can't see it now but it's actually a picture of president john f kennedy

00:42:34.160 and i wanted to ask you uh what are your opinions on how this election integrity thing has been framed

00:42:40.880 as a partisan thing it seems that the media has framed election integrity as a strictly republican

00:42:46.800 issue how do you feel about that well it used to be a democratic issue i don't know if you remember

00:42:52.160 this or not have you ever seen any uh mike lindell stuff he had a whole montage of all the democrats

00:42:57.840 saying we need to fix this you know and that was the issue in fact uh john carrey complained about

00:43:04.160 it in 2004 he complained probably about two months and then you had hillary clinton even 2016 said this

00:43:12.000 isn't right we need to fix this she complained about two weeks and then she gave up which is pretty

00:43:18.880 impressive that donald trump has not given up and now you know i think republicans have finally come on

00:43:25.520 board they weren't the ones on board it was the democrats before now i can speak to that because

00:43:32.160 in 2016 i wrote an op-ed for the hill in which i expressed my view that these machines were easily

00:43:39.040 hacked and could be manipulated uh through a central server and i was viciously attacked by david brock and

00:43:46.240 the media matters people and hillary clinton because i was underlying i was uh undermining the integrity of

00:43:52.480 our elections then after trump won and hillary clinton filed specific objections in michigan

00:43:59.200 pennsylvania and i believe it was wisconsin her specific objection was it mirrored what i'd said in

00:44:05.200 my hill op ed she she basically pointed at at discrepancies in the machines so the democrats are

00:44:12.720 extraordinary hypocrites on this issue anyway we've got to go to commercial break i thank you for joining us

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00:47:57.440 see the roger stone okay let's go back to troy troy we have about uh let's see we have about four

00:48:03.920 minutes left with curtis why don't you wrap this up tremendous honor to have uh mr curtis here because

00:48:11.280 he's he's been dedicated to this for so long and uh seeing you testify in front of nadler there sir was

00:48:17.520 so interesting because he really hasn't changed his tune on this he's still kind of denying it uh and

00:48:23.360 it has to be you have to run into this a lot do you run into these people that are in elected positions

00:48:29.200 that really view you with disdain because of the work that you do essentially the people who are elected

00:48:36.160 don't want to stir the boat because they figure if they're the ones selected now they won't be selected

00:48:41.920 later an interesting thing on that committee is that every one of those people on that committee

00:48:47.440 from 20 years ago if they're not dead they're still in office what's that tell you absolutely well and

00:48:56.480 and it tells you just about everything and you know your work on this you know it's such a simple

00:49:01.680 thing paper ballots work machines don't and i think your message is simple it's something that's resonated

00:49:08.000 in other countries um it's something that we need to push here so i we've been putting up a hand count

00:49:14.080 usa.com where people can find your information and what's going on can you tell the people where else

00:49:18.880 can they find your work and where can they follow you uh just go there don't don't give them a lot

00:49:23.200 of addresses you know one at a time hand count usa you can remember so uh just go there it's got

00:49:28.160 basically the quickie facts of it and essentially you need to do it quickly because if we don't do it for

00:49:33.760 this election further dissent may be completely outlawed like it is in russia because that's where

00:49:39.680 we're headed you know you want to examine my machine no you get to go to jail uh tina peters

00:49:45.920 you want to make a backup that you can look at see if anything was changed no we're going to prosecute

00:49:50.720 you that's pretty old school soviet union stalin stuff there so that's where we're headed we won't be

00:49:57.840 able to change it much longer and trump will have a trump will have a tough time winning if you don't

00:50:03.520 change it quickly uh i think that's a very shrewd uh observation we have recent evidence of one of

00:50:09.440 patrick burns attorneys stephanie lambert uh being arrested because uh she saw evidence of foreign

00:50:17.360 interference in the machines she turned it over to law enforcement and of course they as you know

00:50:22.400 they tried to kill the whistleblower uh it's a it's a horrific problem also i make reference to

00:50:28.880 my great friend charlita uh bassett she ran for the u.s senate in california now it was always a

00:50:35.760 grassroots long shot campaign but little did she know that her name wouldn't even be on the ballot

00:50:41.840 in as many as 15 counties uh that the information that she sent to the state secretary of state to be

00:50:47.600 included in the state's published voter guide would pretend that they'd never gotten her her uh filings

00:50:54.560 and lastly if you went on the actual ballot in english it says that she's a republican but in chinese it

00:51:01.520 says she's a democrat so charlita bassett has an extraordinary lawsuit coming against the secretary

00:51:08.880 of state in california uh one of the most corrupt states in the nation uh when it comes to election

00:51:15.920 integrity uh the the number also we're starting to look at how troy is on this he's been looking at

00:51:21.520 adam shift's donors uh and it's amazing how many of them don't really seem to exist or have given

00:51:27.840 thousands of dollars despite the fact that they're retired he'll be contacting some of those donors to

00:51:33.280 ask them why they sent multiple contributions to adam shift or if they even did uh anyway this has been a

00:51:41.200 great segment i thank you curtis for continuing to stand up for the truth your story is a compelling

00:51:47.040 one if america doesn't make these reforms then i don't think the country can be saved so thank you

00:51:53.760 so much for joining us and god bless you thank you sir all right folks david shown the criminal

00:52:00.320 defense attorney who represented donald trump in the one of the two uh impeachments one of the smartest

00:52:06.160 guys i know was on with judge janine piero the other night this is so good i just had to share it

00:52:12.080 if trump does not postpone by monday leticia james could start the process of seizing his properties

00:52:19.040 joining me now is david shown former trump impeachment lawyer you know david i have to ask you this

00:52:24.560 where does the attorney general get off saying that it's him it's it's not accurate that he can't get a

00:52:30.480 bond first of all are you familiar with any private company in a state case like this being

00:52:35.760 able to get a bond for a half a billion dollars because even though it was 454 million it's 120

00:52:42.400 of the of the uh the of the judgment which is a half a billion dollars yeah absolutely not i mean

00:52:48.240 the attorney general is divorced from reality here you can be sure president trump is trying to get a

00:52:52.400 bond you can be sure he has the contacts that could get one if it were possible these insurance

00:52:57.120 companies just won't do it there's too much at risk but it's outrageous that one is required in

00:53:01.840 this case understand this under you know cplr 5519 as you know judge if this were the state appealing

00:53:07.680 they would need to put up any bond at all so it's an outrageous situation well look this is i mean time

00:53:14.400 is of the essence you know that um do you think that the can the federal court step in on the cons on

00:53:20.720 the eighth amendment excessive fines i think it'd be difficult for the federal court to do based on

00:53:26.160 younger abstention they're not going to probably interfere with a state court proceeding but he's

00:53:30.880 still got the new york court of appeals and so on and i have to think look the public certainly wants

00:53:36.160 the issues in this case to be heard remember besides the excessive fines issues he was denied the right

00:53:41.280 to a jury trial and the case that says you don't get a jury trial comes out of that county and it says

00:53:46.240 that's because the that's not punitive damages it's a regulatory statute in this case it's punitive

00:53:52.080 he should have had the right to a jury trial well it's not only punitive i mean they they got numbers

00:53:57.040 out of the out of the air i mean there is nothing that connects it to reality and no victim i mean

00:54:02.080 you got a fraud case with no fraud no victim and everybody made money but in the end if she were

00:54:08.800 to go to court and start the mechanism to seize the properties um you know she's not limited to new

00:54:15.120 york we know she can go to florida as well how does that how does that work i mean she just goes in

00:54:20.320 and says i'm the new landlord how does it work no she's going to have to use proper court procedures

00:54:25.120 and that's going to drag on for a while also who needs that kind of subsidiary litigation it's absurd

00:54:30.400 the interest the issues in this case are matters of public interest the court should waive a bond

00:54:34.640 altogether find that they're likely to succeed on the merits there's irreparable harm and the equity is

00:54:39.440 balanced together say let's go forward with the appeal and hear the case on the merits what's the

00:54:43.760 harm all right let me ask you this i because i love this case in georgia now fanny uh well the the

00:54:50.640 judge in the fanny willis case where they got rid of the lover but not fanny basically the judge says

00:54:55.600 i'm going to allow an interlocutory appeal you could take this appeal up it normally to the georgia

00:55:00.960 appellate court it normally takes 45 days um the judge signaling that before it goes to trial suggests to

00:55:07.600 me that maybe he wasn't too sure about his own decision what say you well this judge has done a

00:55:13.200 terrific job so far i think he's a real straight arrow and what he said is the issues in this case

00:55:17.600 especially uh regarding miss willis are so important that it's appropriate for the court to hear it by

00:55:22.400 way of interlocutory appeal however he said he's going to go forward and consider other pretrial motions

00:55:28.080 and so on he's not going to wait for a decision uh with respect to that but listen from what we saw

00:55:32.880 in miss willis and her testimony they might well be better off keeping her on the case well you know

00:55:37.440 what's it well i think they should have kept weight on the case the way that guy was sweating bullets

00:55:41.520 when he was on the stand you can tell he's never been in a courtroom before but you know one of the

00:55:45.920 problems is and you've got the georgia senate investigating her and none of the another agency

00:55:50.800 investigating her i was a prosecutor for a long time you cannot take forfeit your money and give it

00:55:55.840 to your lover you just can't do that yeah no listen she's completely smeared the integrity of this

00:56:01.920 process she's up for election so she's probably not going to step down voluntarily but she should have

00:56:06.880 she should have withdrawn from this case for the good of the case and for the integrity

00:56:10.320 of the system but uh you know that's not what she decided to do well we'll see what the appellate

00:56:14.960 court does i i have my hopes on that one anyway david thanks so much that's a great great clip one more

00:56:22.640 point i want to make before we have to end the show there's been a lot of public speculation

00:56:27.040 in this last several days about senator marco rubio potentially being a running mate for president

00:56:33.680 trump uh senator rubio says no one has to ask him about this he's not had any conversations

00:56:38.960 with the president about it now i believe despite the fact that rubio was very loyal to trump as

00:56:44.400 president and they worked very closely together to hold the regimes in cuba and venezuela particularly

00:56:51.440 the communists at bay uh and i like senator rubio who's been very i think effective as a senator for

00:56:59.200 florida i still believe that the 12th amendment of the constitution would prohibit two people from

00:57:06.320 florida it specifically reads the electors that's the electors in electoral college shall meet in their

00:57:12.320 respective states and vote by ballot for president and vice president one of whom at least shall not be

00:57:18.720 an inhabitant of the same state with themselves well that would seem to prohibit anyone who's uh or two

00:57:25.920 people from being nominated who are both legal residents of the state of florida uh when dick

00:57:31.440 cheney was the head of the vice presidential search committee for george w bush essentially he

00:57:36.800 selected himself uh he was a texas resident as was the governor of texas george w bush he very quietly

00:57:44.480 moved his legal residence to the state of wyoming where he had property and where he had represented the

00:57:49.840 state in congress uh but i think it is problematic if not unlikely marco rubio rubio is a senator from

00:57:56.560 florida he cannot change his state residency and donald trump is comfortable and he loves florida why

00:58:02.000 would he go back to being a resident of the state that is trying to prosecute him or another state new

00:58:08.160 jersey that would probably like to so uh i i don't think this is uh i don't think this is a real legal

00:58:14.400 possibility uh but uh i have now addressed it uh no disrespect to senator rubio who have actually come

00:58:21.680 uh to like uh anyway we are out of time i want to thank you once again for joining us uh in the stone

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00:58:37.040 until tomorrow god bless you and godspeed a man who's gone through hell but he's kept going and

00:58:45.760 he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but people love him and respect him roger

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 26, 2024

RINO Plot To Turn House Over To Dems Who Will Bar Trump From Running

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