Rod Martin ｜ 07-15-25
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Summary
Rod Martin is the founder and CEO of Martin Capital and The Rod Martin Report. He is also the editor-in-chief of A Light Bulletin and a regular contributor to The Daily Caller. In this episode, he joins me to discuss a new piece he wrote on the deep state conspiracy to smear Donald Trump.
Transcript
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The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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But more importantly, he is the editor and publisher of a lively substack, the Rod Martin Report.
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His political and economic analysis is always brilliant and provocative and pleased to have him back with us today.
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I myself have confirmed from my own sources that the massive deep state probe that we've all been waiting for is actually in the works
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The Justice Department and the FBI have been working on a massive case, is going to make the MAGA base,
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Now, my initial take on the CIA report released by CIA Director Radcliffe was that it was a shallow dive into the deep plot that began in the Oval Office
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when Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Susan Rice, CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey, and others decided to try to frame Donald Trump
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and remove him from office based on a false premise that the Russians somehow aided in his election.
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Well, first of all, all of that is correct, and thank you for having me.
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You know, the truth is it was an attempted coup, and it started with overwhelming election interference in the 2016 election.
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Anything in the world to deflect from Hillary's very real scandals and everything in the world
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to smear Donald Trump and all of his close associates, yourself included.
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You may recall the book Shattered, in which we have a very useful account of Hillary on election night in 2016,
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pretty drunk and deciding that this was the course of action to take.
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So, you know, what we're seeing in the CIA report, which, as you say, is pretty shallow, but it's very preliminary,
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And the brilliance of what Kash Patel has just done is that by framing it as a grand conspiracy and an ongoing one,
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we get past the statute of limitations that would otherwise shelter some of these people
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and therefore let them profit from their four years of sort of Biden presidency.
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Yeah, I think that's a very, very key point, because, you see, Special Counsel John Durham,
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for some inexplicable reason, took five years to reach the conclusions that many of us had already reached
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and which many in the independent media had already reported.
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He wanted to make sure that none of the conspirators could be charged,
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And he never even addressed the question of whether the Democrat National Committee was, in fact,
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the target of an online hack by Russian intelligence.
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In fact, all of the forensic evidence is to the contrary.
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The download times of the material online points to the material being downloaded to some kind of portable drive
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and taken out the back door, as opposed to an online hack.
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Very specifically here, Brennan, who is quite the character, I mean, admitted communist,
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who admitted to being a communist in a polygraph test, said he voted, belonged to the Communist Party
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and voted for the Communist Party candidate for president.
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He is the same man who signed the visas for four of the 9-11 hijackers
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He's a guy who got caught red-handed spying on a U.S. Senate committee
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that was investigating his illegal use of torture as the CIA director.
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And according to FBI counterterrorism expert John Guandolo,
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Brennan converted to Islam, actually to Wahhabism,
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in an elaborate ceremony when he was the station chief for the CIA in Saudi Arabia.
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But in this particular case, he is specifically nailed for insisting that the Steele dossier,
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this fraudulent report that he actually knew was fabricated and paid for by Hillary Clinton
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and her campaign, be included in President Barack Obama's intelligence assessment report
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so that they could then use it as the rationale for the entire witch hunt.
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They could use it as the rationale for spying on Donald Trump's campaign.
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They said that the Steele dossier was not the basis for which the FISA warrants were granted,
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They also used it as the rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller
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with which I am, of course, extraordinarily familiar,
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Do you think, Rod, that any of these characters will ever actually face trial in the United States?
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I really thought William Barr was going to do the right thing,
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And, of course, I feel like I'm in good company, since Donald Trump clearly did, too.
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I think Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are straight shooters.
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I think Pam Bondi is clearly earning the confidence of the president,
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I don't know all the ins and outs of some of that.
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The one that you didn't mention that I really hope we get back to,
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there's no way that the download could have happened
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other than with some kind of portable drive, as you correctly state.
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And as you know, there was no meaningful investigation.
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Maybe nothing happened, but something probably did.
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Well, we don't have, the FBI lost his computer.
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And as did the security camera video from the bar that he left
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there's a reasonable chance that you'll be sued.
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because his jewelry, his wallet, his cash was all intact.
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But once a crisis management consultant paid for by the Democrat National Committee swooped in,
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now suddenly, Seth Rich's parents are threatening to sue anyone who questions the circumstances of his death.
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I think it is very, very suspicious, to say the least.
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I agree with you, although in all honesty, having been through the process,
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any Democrat, any Trump hater who is charged in the District of Columbia will probably walk.
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First of all, you're going to get a rabid left-wing Trump-hating judge like I had in my case.
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She specifically withheld totally exculpatory evidence from my defense attorneys.
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My lawyers, citing the fact that a person is entitled to have all evidence against them prior to trial,
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asked for Robert Mueller's final, completely unredacted report.
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She said that she would read the report in her chambers
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and she would give us the sections of the report that were germane to Roger Stone.
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What she gave us was unusable and incomprehensible.
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She, however, neglected to include the section on page 178 of his report,
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in which even Mueller couldn't sugarcoat the fact that he'd found no evidence of Russian collusion,
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WikiLeaks collaboration, or any other crime on my part.
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Somehow the judge neglected to give that section to my attorneys.
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I have to put up with these endless attacks on social media regarding being called a Russian agent
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and this nonsense of Guccifer 2.0, who is a persona that I had a brief exchange with on Twitter,
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direct messages, which took place three months after WikiLeaks had already published
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all of the material from Hillary Clinton's campaign and from the DNC.
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So without a time machine, it would have been impossible for me to have been a conspirator
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But, of course, try breaking through the fake news media din to make that point.
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You could probably get a fairer trial in China than we get in the District of Columbia.
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And that's one of the most encouraging things about what Cash did.
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But the way he is framing the case, there is the possibility of bringing cases outside of D.C.,
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And I think that we've got a real shot at a fair trial in some of those venues.
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So I want to ask you, Rob, what you think of the auto pen scandal.
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The New York Times reported now that President Joe Biden did not review every single case,
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that the decision on who to use the auto pen to sign pardons was made by a staff member.
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Actually, I raised this question in my speech this weekend.
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We also need a special prosecutor to investigate the origins of the COVID-19 vaccination.
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I call on the Attorney General to charge Anthony Fauci for lying to Congress.
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And when, in his legal defense, he argues that he cannot be charged because he has a preemptive pardon,
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the government can finally test the legality of the auto pen in which all of those documents should not be honored.
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The point, of course, I made was that we should charge Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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And when we do, we could charge him with lying to Congress.
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Rand Paul, I saw today, is going to once again send another letter of referral to the Justice Department
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when he said that U.S. taxpayers did not pay for gain of function,
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basically the weaponization of the COVID-19 vaccination in the Wuhan lab.
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Fauci's lawyers will then argue that he cannot be prosecuted
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which will allow the Trump administration to argue,
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you know, the pardon you have is not valid because it was signed by an auto pen
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without the authorization of the President of the United States.
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President Trump has said this is a bigger scandal, perhaps,
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So, you know, you now have the New York kind saying plainly that the president,
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the supposed president, Joe Biden, is sitting there, you know,
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just giving these kind of broad general approvals,
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didn't actually approve the individual cases or at least some of them.
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I think this is completely assailable in court.
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but after the string of cases we've had in the last month or two,
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I think it's very, very clear that this Supreme Court is going to be open to an attack
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on these pardons and not only these, but potentially other documents
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that were falsely signed by staff and not by the president.
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The executive authority shall be vested in a president of the United States,
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not in a chief of staff, not in an independent agency, which is an abomination.
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We've got six justices who seem pretty committed to that.
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I'm talking to Rod Martin of the Rod Martin Report,
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which I highly recommend to you, and we'll be right back.
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He is the publisher and author of the Rod Martin Report.
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You can find him at rodmartin.org or go to substack.com
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He's one of the best writers and analysts there on Substack.
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of the attempt on Donald Trump's life was this past weekend.
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To me, it's amazing that we still don't have any answers
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I'm not sure that Thomas Matthew Crooks is the shooter.
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I'm not certain that he didn't have Confederates.
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and there have been six suspensions but no firings.
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not least in their complete failure to clear off the exact site
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from which the shooter fired on the president and the crowd.
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I mean, it was just painfully obvious that this is where a shooter would want to go,
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And, of course, the Biden administration went out of its way
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and apparently to limit the number of quality people on the detail.
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I'm sure the president is very sure and very certain of where he's going with that,
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but we need some fundamental reform at the Secret Service.
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Yeah, it's interesting to me that they hosed down the top of the building
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they hosed out the back of John F. Kennedy's limousine in Dallas
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which is why I suspect that Crooks was cremated
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and they hosed down the area from which he allegedly shot,
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perhaps to conceal the fact that there was no DNA match.
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can't get into his encrypted messages on his cell phone,
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his material saying it would be an invasion of his privacy.
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Yet Apple was more than happy to hand over the material
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without even receiving a subpoena or a request to do so.
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to investigate both of the assassination attempts
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of President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania,
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we should investigate the attempted assassination
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because the government has never issued a report.
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All we have is a statement from Vice President George Bush
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and that the shooter, the accused shooter, acted alone.
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on the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.
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of President Ronald Reagan should be out by Christmas.
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All right, I want to thank our guest, Rod Martin,
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Until tomorrow, thank you for joining us in the Stone Zone.
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