Roger Stone Reacts to FBI Report of ＂Iranian＂ Email Hack Targeting Trump Campaign
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Trump's interview with Elon Musk has over 1 BILLION cumulative views on YouTube. The Iranians have been accused of hacking into the Trump campaign and trying to reach other members of the Trump inner circle, and the FBI is investigating. Meanwhile, Trump continues to press ahead with his plan to get rid of the tax on Social Security payments for our seniors. The Stone Zone with Roger Stone is a political and cultural icon. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, and is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. He is a prolific writer, and has been described as a pop culture icon . Roger Stone joins me to discuss the latest in the latest news involving the Trump administration and the Iran situation, including the latest reports that the Iranians have hacked into Trump s personal Gmail account and tried to reach out to other Trump campaign members of his inner circle. And, of course, there's a special guest on the Stone Zone, Troy Smith, editor-in-chief of Slingshot News, who joins us in the second seat on the show's second seat here every weekday on the second half of The Stonezone. This is a must-listen for all things political and pop culture related to the latest headlines of the past 24 hours! - including the Elon Musk interview with Donald Trump and Donald Trump on the world's most influential. - Roger Stone's interview on CNN's "Elon the Tonight Show with Alex Castellanos, and much more! - Subscribe to the Stonezone on Apple Podcasts and listen to the show wherever you get your news and information about the latest breaking news and updates on the happenings in the world! Subscribe to The StoneZONE on your favorite streaming platform! Subscribe and review the show on social media! and let us know what you're listening to the most important thing you're consuming the most influential podcast on the left and the things going on in your favorite podcast! Tweet me on the right side of the social meds! of the political and social media landscape! to let me know what s your thoughts on the political news you're watching and what s going down in your world? and what s up in your feed in the comments section!
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The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
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Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
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He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald
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Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
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spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the
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Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,
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Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
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Welcome. I'm Roger Stone. And yes, you are back in the Stone Zone. Well, Donald Trump seized the
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initiative last night, returning to X, formerly known as Twitter. And now it appears that his
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interview has had over one billion cumulative views. This is clearly a game changer. I do want to
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stress that Elon Musk says that he invited Kamala Harris to do exactly such a conversation, and
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she declined. Perhaps that's because she couldn't hold up her end of the conversation. She continues
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to run an issue-less campaign, other than stealing those proposals from Donald Trump, such as no tax on
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tips. Trump has also proposed ending the tax on Social Security payments for our seniors. How soon
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will it be before Kamala Harris steals that one, too? A lot of politics to talk about today. Let me bring in my
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co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news, who joins us in the second seat
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here every weekday on the Stone Zone. Troy, welcome back. I know you're glad to be back on the show after
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a field trip that you took. It's great to have you back. Roger, as always, it's an honor to be in the
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Stone Zone. But before we get into the historic interview last night with Elon Musk and Donald Trump,
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as you said, it's over 1 billion views. We've just got to get your opinion. I've got to get your
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opinion on these headlines that are popping up all over the news landscape this morning. I've pulled a
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few of them concerning your email account, your personal email account, with CNN alleging that the
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Iranians have hacked into your email account and actually used that to try to reach other members
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of the Trump team. What can you tell us about this situation? I know you haven't really put out many
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statements. I'm very interested to hear what you have to say on this matter.
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Well, here is what I am able to tell you. Several months ago, I was contacted first by Microsoft.
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After confirming their identity, my lawyers and I spoke to them and they informed us that my
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an old Hotmail account, which I don't really use but is still live, had been compromised. I want to be
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clear that they did not specifically say hacked. They are uncertain how it was accessed. I asked them
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what the purpose of this would be, since I seldom use that account, and they said the purpose is to
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send outgoing emails to folks at the Trump campaign that would include a link that, if you clicked on
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it, would give them access to that Trump official's computer. They didn't indicate that it had happened.
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They just said that was the purpose. Then, roughly a month ago, I was contacted by the FBI.
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They said essentially the same thing, that my Gmail account had been compromised. I asked them for what
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purpose. They told me the exact same thing, that it would be used to send, I guess what they call
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spear phishing or phishing emails to those in the Trump campaign. I asked both of them for their
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advice. They said, well, keep changing your passcode. Beyond that, we can't advise you. I, of course,
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have done that. Now, I don't use either one of those accounts for anything that is even the slightest
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bit sensitive. So, there is no smoking gun. Beyond that, I don't know anything other than what I
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read yesterday in the report released by Microsoft that specifically said that this was an action
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by the Iranians. So, I'm cooperating completely with the investigation, and we'll see where this
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leads. It does make a certain amount of sense. I mean, Iran, under Donald Trump, had been reduced
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to a financial destitute. His sanctions against Iran so froze them out of the international community
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they could not sell their abundant oil. They couldn't even sell it to the Chinese. So, one of the ways that
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Trump ensured peace in the Middle East was making sure that we did not have a fully funded and armed
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Iran. The Biden administration, as you know, unfroze $190 billion of assets for the Iranians,
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which they have used to restart their nuclear weapons development program, and, of course, to
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finance the terrorism by Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, this double game being played by the Biden
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administration. So, it would make sense that the Iranians would be hostile to the candidacy of
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Donald Trump. More than that, I do not know, and more than that, I'm not going to say. The whole thing
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is kind of surreal. And, of course, you know, CNN puts my name in the headline. They call that clickbait.
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I guess they're running low on cash over there at CNN. They needed a few bucks, so they put my name
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in the story, although I don't think I am the centerpiece of this. If you go back, Fox reported
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months ago that the Iranians were targeting Trump's campaign. So, that's what we know at this moment,
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and that's all I'm really going to say about it. Let's go on to American politics.
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Well, thank you, Roger, for putting that statement. I really appreciate that. And,
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you know, it's kind of interesting. You know, you have a lot of big news happen, Roger,
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around these large events where it kind of gets overshadowed. I find that interesting. You know,
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they did that with the unredacted version of the Mueller report. I believe they released that maybe
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a day or two before the 2020 election. So, it seems it's a constant thing. And the big news
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politically is this interview with Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Now, I wanted to ask you because
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the start of this interview was actually delayed by a major DDoS attack. And I think the success of
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the interview, which we have a lot of clips from we're going to play, you know, is kind of overshadowing
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the idea that Twitter was once again attacked pretty viciously. And I did see a tweet from General
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Michael Flynn, which I want to ask you about, where he said that a DDoS attack of this size
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had to come from some kind of foreign nation. It's such a large attack that it couldn't just
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be a group of hackers. It had to be a coordinated effort with people with a lot of resources,
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which General Flynn pointed towards possibly a hostile foreign government, maybe the same
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Iranians that have tried to access your email account. So, I want to ask you about that.
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You know, Roger, what do you think happened here? Do you think that this was sabotaged
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by the deep state to try to stop this interview from happening?
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It's very, very hard to say. I mean, first of all, I think Elon is a technological genius,
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and he obviously has some really excellent people working for him. You saw when Ron DeSantis,
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a much, much lesser political figure than Donald Trump, tried to do his actual announcement of
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candidacy on X, which makes sense because Ron, you know, doesn't like people and doesn't want to be
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with him, that their system crashed very badly, which disrupted his plan. Now, Elon told us in a
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series of posts that they were preparing for a huge number of people to join the space. And I think
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he, the point, of course, is that Trump is so big, his appeal is so big, the interest in his and what
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he has to say is so big that even with those preparations, I mean, expanding their capacity
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for people to join, they had some early problems. I don't think it hurt the overall effort. I've been
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so busy dealing with media inquiries pertaining to this Russian, pardon me, this alleged Iranian hack
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that I really haven't had a chance to listen to the entire program or the entire space. But yeah,
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I think that they will do anything they can to limit Donald Trump's access. The good news here,
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the really good news, is that Donald Trump is back on X. This is something I have wanted for
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some time. Now, I love Truth Social. I think it's great for speaking to the base and speaking to
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your supporters. But I also think that it is essential that he continue to stay at X because
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he's literally going to be able to reach millions more people than he can. And it's, you know, we're
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less than 90 days to the election. So I think that's the good idea. Well, and Roger, I think the
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tremendous power of Elon Musk, you know, I think there's a, there's something that happens with
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the liberals, particularly with Elon Musk, because he's built the ultimate electric vehicle. You
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know, if there's anybody that's helped this country move towards the idea of green or clean
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energy, as these people refer to it, it's Elon Musk. And, you know, the idea that that guy is
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supporting Donald Trump, I think really freaks them out. And we saw this in the media reaction to
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what we saw in this interview yesterday. I have a clip. Now, you mentioned Trump has returned to X.
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And one of the things that I saw yesterday was an ad that you actually shared talking about the quote
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was, Trump was right about everything. And it actually goes back to 1987, when you, Roger, were
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among the first people to encourage Donald Trump to seek the presidency. He's one, of course, a friend of
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over 45 plus years. So I want to roll that advertisement and get your thoughts on how this
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was put together. I think it was a tremendous way to kind of welcome Trump back onto the platform
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Is New York's Donald Trump running for president?
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He bought full page ads in three East Coast newspapers today, stating his views on foreign policy,
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and these ads will win him a following. In the ads, he says, there's nothing wrong with
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American foreign policy that little backbone won't cure. And he said, we have no business
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spending ourselves broke in the Middle East, protecting ships that are not ours and oil that
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rumblings in the Trump camp point as far as the presidency. Somebody has to help this country.
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And if they don't, the country and the world are in big trouble because within a short period
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of time, as sure as we're sitting here, there's not going to be a country and there's not going
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I have no intention of running for president. And if it got so bad, I would never want to rule
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Together, we will determine the course of America and the world for many, many years to come.
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For too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government
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That all changes starting right here and right now. Because this moment is your moment. It
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The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.
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Trump leading in five of the six most important battleground states.
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Our latest polling out of Iowa also shows former President Trump with a 30-point lead
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Donald Trump basically has this nomination locked up.
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I will fight for you with every breath in my body, and I will never, ever let you down.
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My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over. In fact, our fight has only just begun.
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That is really, really powerful. And, Troy, it brings back so many fond memories. It was 1988 when I first proposed to Donald Trump that I thought he would not only be a great candidate for president, but I thought that he'd be a great president.
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And he kind of laughed and said, why do you say that?
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I said, well, because you already have some very strong feelings about the way our national defense has been allowed to atrophy, the trade deals in which we're getting ripped off by everyone.
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Trump had this great line. He said, you know, they send their toughest, smartest negotiators, we send social workers to negotiate on our behalf.
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Even then, he was demanding that our NATO partners pay their fair share, which is something that he later made them do as president.
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So I saw it very early. That ad made the hair on the back of my neck stand up because it brought back so many great memories.
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And now we're in this improbable position where I think the only thing that stands between us and chaos is Donald Trump.
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Folks, I do want to tell you that coming up with us momentarily, Sonia Hightower-Labasco, who is a former assistant federal secretary director for law enforcement, executive director today of the Air Marshal's National Council.
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But she is the woman who came forward based on whistleblower testimony to tell us that Tulsi Gabbard had been put under surveillance and that her name had been added to a secret domestic terrorist watch list very recently in July, right after she criticized Kamala Harris in an interview.
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Now, Tulsi Gabbard is a former four-term Democrat congresswoman, but more importantly, I think perhaps she's a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve.
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She was actually on active duty when this story broke.
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Sonia Hightower-Labasco, who is the courageous woman who made this story public, going to join us in just a few minutes.
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All right, Troy, we've got a little time for one more political story, and then I want to go right to Sonia because I'm very excited about having her as a guest.
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We have one clip that I want to get your reaction to, and this is the reaction from the media as it pertains to this Trump-Musk interview,
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which was just a tremendous interview, I think, for particularly independent voters.
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This interview, I think, is going to be very potent for them because, like I said, Elon Musk is a guy that kind of transcends politics.
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And, you know, he's crossed into so many different areas of tech that he's become kind of a spokesman, I think, for independent-minded people in this country.
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And the fact that he's sitting with Trump and kind of interviewing him and going through all this stuff, it's very important.
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But CNN went into a full-blown panic about this interview, and we have a reaction from them, and I want to get Roger's thoughts on the media reaction to this Trump-Musk interview.
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It began with 40 minutes of silence, and then a bro-pocalypse of politics.
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No matter how you frame it or what caused the glitch, what was finally said between Donald Trump and Elon Musk at last night's Big X event
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can largely be defined as a rant filled with familiar lies and lines of attack.
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She is a radical left San Francisco liberal, and now she's trying to protect...
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She wants to be more Trump than Trump, if that's possible.
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But did it do what it was designed to do, which was to put the brakes on...
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You saw this across the board on social media last night.
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You see, the left liked it much better when they had a total monopoly on the flow of information on the Internet,
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which is exactly, sadly, what happened in 2020, where pro-Trump voices, Republicans, conservatives, independents, libertarians, just free thinkers found themselves not only censored, shadowbanned, but in many, many cases just arbitrarily canceled.
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So just the fact that Elon Musk allows X to operate as a free speech platform drives them completely insane.
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They can only win when only they have the megaphone.
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They can't win when both sides are allowed to speak.
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Watching the Rachel Maddows, who's been consistently wrong about everything, jump up and down today is funny.
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I just noticed that this former FBI agent, Frank Figlusi, who I call Frank Fugazi, a guy who lied for two years about the Russian collusion hoax, brought disgrace upon himself and the Bureau.
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He's criticizing me today for being the target of a hack, calling me a weak link.
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Once I publish my book, I actually have a compendium of all of your lies, every one of them, a lie.
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It's amazing how the same bad actors never go away.
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We are going to take a very quick commercial break, and then we're going to come back with Sonia Hightower-Labasco,
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She has an extensive experience as a law enforcement officer.
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She currently serves as the executive director of the Air Marshals National Council, which is a professional association that advocates for federal air marshals who are deployed worldwide to protect aviation travel.
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She works directly with the congressional oversight committees for comprehensive reforms due to the current, I would say, decline and dangers in our aviation security.
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She first joined the Air Marshal Service in June of 2002, shortly after the tragic events of 9-11.
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She was first assigned to the Orlando Field Office as a federal air marshal, was charged with deploying and mentoring federal air marshals on behalf of the Transportation Security Administration.
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During her career with the Federal Air Marshal Service, she served as a federal air marshal and was promoted to assistant to the special agent in charge in 2007.
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Sonia, I could go on and on with your impressive resume.
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You have an extensive background, including serving 12 years with the Daytona Beach Police Department.
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We're very proud of his service as well as yours.
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You were awarded the Medal of Valor and the Medal of Merit during your tenure there.
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It is an honor to have you today on the Stone Zone, and welcome.
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It's a pleasure to be here, and thank you so much for taking the time to highlight this very nefarious and tragic latest incident of targeting of Ms. Tulsa Gabbard.
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This broke several days ago when Sonia came forward because, as I understand it, several whistleblowers with credibility have come forward to you and told you that in July,
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after Congresswoman Tulsa Gabbard criticized Kamala Harris in an interview, she was placed on a secret domestic terrorist watch list under something the TSA calls the Quiet Skies program,
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and actual physical surveillance of her while on flights began the day after that.
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She's obviously not accused or even suspected of any crime of any kind.
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She's a distinguished former four-term congresswoman from Hawaii.
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She's a former national co-chairman of the Democrat Party who's now left that party to become an independent.
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I guess, how did you first learn about this, and where does it go from here?
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I think you've been very courageous in coming forward.
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On the other hand, we've seen a situation recently where instead of whistleblowers being respected for their courage,
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the government tries to destroy them because they come forward and tell the American people the truth.
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We established the Air Marshal National Council back in 2019 when we started seeing a decline within our operations.
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We're the only law enforcement component inside the Transportation Security Administration,
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We have Air Marshals in all 20 field offices across the nation,
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and those Air Marshals bring information to me as the Executive Director regarding fraud, waste, and abuse.
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So when I first got the information regarding Ms. Gabbard, I thought maybe it was an anomaly.
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We knew that she was on this domestic terrorist watch list, but we thought, well, maybe it was random.
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So we sat back and we waited, and then there was a second mission that Air Marshals flew,
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and then there was a third mission that we followed her, and then the fourth mission.
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So then we clearly knew that she was being targeted, and we were just outraged.
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Ms. Gabbard's a serving lieutenant colonel in the military, a combat veteran,
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and here we are deploying resources, undercover agents, physical security details,
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and monitoring someone that is not a threat to our country.
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So we felt it was very important, number one, to contact Ms. Gabbard to let her know,
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And we're just not going to stand by and let a fellow patriot be treated this way without standing up in defense of her
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and the many other thousands of Americans put on this list.
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Sonia, do any of your whistleblowers tell you what the rationale for this decision is?
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Who decided to begin spying on a distinguished congresswoman through this secret program?
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And then secondarily, does anybody want to speculate among your whistleblowers the reason for this other than raw politics?
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Yeah, the decision was made by TSA Administrator David Pekosky.
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He is the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration.
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And after George Bush made the Aviation Security Transportation Act after 9-11,
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it gives the TSA Administrator near dictatorial powers to do things like this against the American people.
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So this is squarely on the TSA Administrator's shoulders.
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There's no one else to blame but this individual.
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And when the whistleblowers, you know, when they came forward in regards to this story,
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We know that there's an investigation opened against our current serving air marshals,
00:29:32.360
and we're doing everything we can to protect them.
00:29:35.060
So there's one person to blame, and that's Administrator Pekosky.
00:29:38.200
And we've blown the whistle on him for years regarding this program.
00:29:41.560
But hopefully this story will highlight the nefarious and egregious actions
00:29:45.900
that are continuing to happen within this administrative agency.
00:29:55.500
The idea that they chose Tulsi Gabbard, of all people, is really alarming, I think, to so many people.
00:30:03.060
And it goes back to me, to accusations that were made against Tulsi Gabbard by Kamala Harris,
00:30:10.040
where she accused her of being a Russian agent over and over again.
00:30:13.820
And I wanted to ask you, you know, how is this determination made?
00:30:18.080
Do you think that that played into it, or is this purely politics?
00:30:20.940
Because it seems to me that Tulsi Gabbard's crime may just be criticizing Kamala Harris.
00:30:27.280
And I also wanted to ask you, do you think that that points to any kind of weaponization of government
00:30:32.860
we may see kind of exacerbated if Harris would possibly win the 2024 election?
00:30:40.120
We do believe that Ms. Gabbard was targeted because of her coming out.
00:30:43.760
She was on Laura Ingram in Fox News on the 23rd.
00:30:47.380
And then straight after that, she was added to this watch list.
00:30:50.820
So you have to look at what time she was added to the list and the reasoning behind it.
00:30:55.580
And we can only believe within the Air Marshal National Council is politically motivated.
00:31:00.200
Everything that's happened with our mission has been politically motivated.
00:31:03.720
They've taken air marshals off high-risk flights to put us down on the border,
00:31:08.740
And we're actually allowing terrorists to come across the border.
00:31:12.680
And we're helping them come across the border and putting them on flights that we're not covering.
00:31:21.200
We know that there are 100 terrorists in our country right now that we don't know where they're located.
00:31:25.940
But we actually opened the border, allowed them in.
00:31:29.400
TSA Administrator David Pekosky created a special screening lane for those coming across the border
00:31:35.140
with no identification, to put them on planes where there's no air marshals.
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But yet we're going to focus our attention on Ms. Gabbard.
00:31:41.920
So you can only look at the political nature of what they've weaponized the air marshals to do
00:31:48.380
And it can only lead one to believe she's being targeted because of her political stance against
00:31:53.940
this administration and the bad things that are happening.
00:31:56.140
Sonia, you raise yet another troubling issue, and that is actual air marshall protection
00:32:05.420
on airlines, on commercial flights, has been very, very severely reduced, as I understand it,
00:32:12.560
and that some of those agents have been sent to the southern border, but not for enforcement purposes,
00:32:19.060
essentially to hand out bottles of water to those who are entering the country illegally.
00:32:28.880
It is, and we've been fighting this since 2021.
00:32:34.200
We have two bills that are on the floor right now.
00:32:36.580
Senator Ted Cruz put No FAMS on Border Act, and there's a companion bill by Congresswoman
00:32:43.040
Ashley Henson in the House side because we just simply cannot take our resources out of these
00:32:49.900
high-risk flights to go down to the border to hand out water.
00:32:52.440
And gentlemen, I'll tell you, we're handing out water.
00:32:55.160
If we were doing anything valid, I would tell you there's no duty that we're helping there
00:32:59.780
on the border other than keeping our skies unsecure, our borders unsecure.
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Our security is not being taken care of by the resources we're paying for.
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I mean, TSA is receiving $11 billion a year, and we're following Ms. Tulsi Gabbard when
00:33:19.180
we've got hundreds of terrorists that are across this nation, and we don't even know
00:33:27.340
It is, I guess, the most obvious question also is, are congressional Republicans now going
00:33:34.580
to dig into why Tulsi Gabbard, a former colleague, has been targeted in this way?
00:33:41.240
I would think that they would have a keen interest in this, could be the oversight.
00:33:47.200
I mean, it fits among a number of their investigations because, again, it's use of the authority of
00:33:54.340
the government for strictly political purposes.
00:34:03.280
You'll remember when she bested Kamala Harris in a debate, which she clearly did, Hillary
00:34:11.860
Clinton came out and accused Tulsi Gabbard of being a Russian asset, which is an outrage.
00:34:18.640
In other words, if you're opposed to shipping billions more to Ukraine, that makes you not
00:34:26.160
That makes you a Russian simp, a Russian asset.
00:34:34.520
I don't know the results of that defamation lawsuit.
00:34:38.620
But what do you hear from the Congress, Asanya?
00:34:44.300
We brought this straight to Congress right after 2021.
00:34:46.780
We received, through a Freedom of Information Act, a letter that, at the time, Congressman
00:34:51.900
Benny Thompson, who later became chair of the January 6th committee, had written to TSA
00:34:57.000
Administrator Pekoski, and he had requested that Pekoski put domestic terrorists and white
00:35:02.780
supremacists on this watch list after the incident at January 6th, 2021.
00:35:08.360
But what we discovered through our investigation and our sources, the individuals that were added
00:35:15.960
They had flown into the National Capitol region, and they had been put on this domestic terrorist
00:35:24.440
We've been working this for years now, and we've been to weaponization.
00:35:31.680
We've provided that direct evidence to our oversight committees, and we had only wished
00:35:36.660
that they would have stopped this program because if they would have shut Quiet Skies
00:35:39.860
down and had some hearings or some accountability, then this would not have happened to
00:35:44.900
So, you know, the domino effect here is real because this program could have truly been
00:35:50.180
stopped back in 2023 when we brought everything to Congress.
00:36:00.540
So the Quiet Skies program, how long has this been in effect?
00:36:04.900
Is there a possibility that there are other people, perhaps like Roger, who was the target
00:36:15.680
Is it a possibility that they're also watching him and other people that are involved politically
00:36:21.680
Yeah, there's a great concern that they're watching you because of your political beliefs.
00:36:25.580
And this program, you know, it started in 2012, and it started as just a tool for us as the
00:36:32.060
air marshals if there was a high-security passenger that placed a risk to the flight.
00:36:37.820
So after 2012, this program started growing, and TSA realized that there's no oversight
00:36:43.040
or accountability in regards to the Quiet Skies.
00:36:46.080
So we call it like the self-licking ice cream cone.
00:36:49.520
They can create these watch lists, and they can surveil people to go back to Congress, and
00:36:55.420
then they can have these fake metrics that say, hey, we followed, you know, 10,000 domestic
00:37:00.860
terrorist suspects, so we need to go from a $9 billion budget to a $10 billion budget.
00:37:06.580
But in the meantime, they're stomping on our First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment to do
00:37:10.860
that to the citizens and the travelers in this country.
00:37:17.300
Travelers pay every day on a ticket $5.60 each way for security, and they're not getting
00:37:32.200
Sonia, do you think that the House Republicans will subpoena the head, the man who made these
00:37:41.380
decisions, to ask him on what basis Tulsi Gabbard was put on this secret domestic terrorist list?
00:37:54.680
She is not a domestic terrorist, and she's not a suspected domestic terrorist.
00:37:58.900
She is an active serving lieutenant colonel in the military with the top secret clearance,
00:38:07.080
If she's such a threat, who is running the investigation against her?
00:38:11.000
Why is TSA allowing this to continue when they know that she's not a suspected domestic
00:38:18.560
And I hope the House Republicans and the Senate as well.
00:38:21.840
I hope they have some really hard questions, and I hope someone gets fired from this.
00:38:26.720
That's really what my hope is, that they get fired, because we don't need people like this
00:38:30.680
in our government service going on these political tangents and making that pendulum swing toward
00:38:40.260
Well, one of the major concerns I have, of course, and I know you share this, is when an
00:38:45.940
air marshal who chooses to come forward as a whistleblower and tell the truth does so,
00:39:00.180
Instead of embracing these people for their courage, as we've seen in the case of the FBI,
00:39:07.200
There's an effort to destroy them, both their reputations and also to destroy them financially.
00:39:14.080
This is why I guess I'm glad that the whistleblowers are able to go to you.
00:39:20.080
You're not currently serving as an air marshal, having retired to head the council, but I have
00:39:28.640
a concern about those people who had the courage to step forward.
00:39:32.220
Now, if they go to a congressional hearing and they say what they know, under oath, I might
00:39:37.820
add, I'm afraid that they'll be ostracized, that they'll be punished rather than respected
00:39:46.460
I mean, you know, Mr. Stone, that's a concern we all have, but our constitution and our amendments
00:39:53.120
And we have to stand strong at this time in our country to say, we took an oath to the
00:40:01.160
And our constitution is the only thing that's going to guide us.
00:40:15.860
We've got protection for our whistleblowers, and you will not get to them that easily.
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First of all, I want to congratulate you, Sonia, for having the courage to step forward.
00:40:30.100
This is a story that has not gotten the coverage that I think it deserves.
00:40:34.360
Laura Ingram interviewed Tulsi Gabbard on this, so did my friend Sean Hannity.
00:40:47.400
It doesn't seem to be in the Wall Street Journal.
00:40:56.660
Now, I don't get my news from MSNBC for the same reason I don't, you know, eat out of the
00:41:02.620
But it's amazing here that you have no, virtually no mainstream coverage.
00:41:09.560
This is spying on a woman who's actually a decorated combat veteran in both Iraq and Kuwait.
00:41:24.020
Sonia Hightower-Labasco, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
00:41:28.100
Thank you also, on behalf of every American, for having the courage to step forward and
00:41:36.840
I think it is an important story, particularly in the run-up to the next presidential election,
00:41:43.720
which is, of course, the most important election of my lifetime.
00:41:47.980
God bless you, and thank you for joining us today.
00:42:00.020
I believe this is among the first interviews that Sonia Hightower-Labasco has done, a woman
00:42:10.260
She, too, can be punished just for coming forward and telling the American people the truth.
00:42:16.060
So I'm really pleased that she was able to join us today.
00:42:20.100
Let us now go back to a little bit of politics.
00:42:24.760
We have a little bit of time here before we have to move on.
00:42:28.100
Before we get to some of the clips of this interview, because we have a little bit of time here,
00:42:32.820
I wanted to ask your opinion on this press conference.
00:42:36.300
And the White House press secretary yesterday held a press conference in which she basically
00:42:41.100
blamed Kamala Harris for everything that's happened that's negative throughout the entire
00:42:47.120
And it kind of led me to believe, like, maybe Jean-Pierre is up there.
00:42:51.600
She knows she's getting axed if they go to a new administration.
00:42:58.100
We have two separate clips I want to play of her pretty, like, I think, directly throwing
00:43:04.060
Let's roll the first clip where she says that there's no difference in the policies that will
00:43:09.420
be implemented by Kamala Harris on the border and the policies that have already allowed
00:43:14.360
20-plus million illegal immigrants to surge the border under President Biden.
00:43:18.900
She says there's literally no difference between the two people in their policies on the border.
00:43:25.660
How long have you guys known that Vice President Harris does not think President Biden is doing
00:43:33.740
Well, she's now promising to hire thousands more border agents than there are now under
00:43:43.320
How long have you guys known that Vice President Harris does not think that President Biden is
00:43:57.600
She has a campaign ad where she is saying they need more border patrol agents.
00:44:02.360
If President Biden is doing such a good job, why do they need any more border agents?
00:44:06.680
The President does want more border patrol agents.
00:44:21.500
I'm not understanding the question because there's no daylight.
00:44:29.800
I know you guys probably get sick of me saying this, but there was.
00:44:34.000
There was a bipartisan agreement that was on the table that the President worked through
00:44:38.880
for a couple of months with Republicans in the Senate and Democrats.
00:44:44.680
They were told not to move forward because it would help Joe Biden by the former President.
00:44:56.160
The so-called Lankford bill in the U.S. Senate guaranteed that two million people who were
00:45:10.300
The vast majority of the funding in that bill was put there to facilitate the entry and processing
00:45:19.780
So this idea that we had a bipartisan bill, but that Donald Trump opposed it for political
00:45:30.380
Secondarily, however, you see this shifting narrative.
00:45:34.480
So now not only is Kamala Harris talking about ending the tax on tips for service employees.
00:45:46.360
But she's also now suddenly pledging to seal our border.
00:45:50.620
She's going to hire hundreds of new border patrol agents, and she's going to crack down on illegal
00:46:00.400
Where have these people been for three and a half years?
00:46:03.760
And I guess how stupid does she think the American people are?
00:46:08.040
Kamala Harris's agenda is a continuation of Joe Biden's agenda.
00:46:15.480
Switching from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris would be like leaving the dirty diapers on the baby and
00:46:30.100
And we have one more clip in that vein where she talks about, you know, one of the crazy
00:46:34.920
things, Roger, if you actually look up a chart, we don't have it here, but of Biden's approval
00:46:39.940
It's actually, you know, it's positive for the first few months of his presidency as,
00:46:44.060
you know, most presidents enjoy a bump at the beginning of their presidency.
00:46:47.480
But the turning point for Joe Biden was the Afghanistan withdrawal in the summer of 2021.
00:46:53.300
If you look at a graph of his approval rating, it's an X right at that date, because it was
00:46:58.460
probably one of the weakest moments in the history of our country.
00:47:01.700
I mean, President Trump put it correctly, it was akin to the fall of, you know, Vietnam
00:47:07.100
and leaving there and the disaster that ensued there.
00:47:11.060
We just, it was a, you know, it was a terrible situation that Joe Biden put this country in
00:47:17.780
And we had the White House press secretary saying that Kamala Harris supported this withdrawal
00:47:27.920
The president has said that she was the last person in the room with President Biden ahead
00:47:32.480
of his decision to order U.S. troops to pull out of Afghanistan.
00:47:37.040
Was the vice president in full support of his decision to order that withdrawal and in full
00:47:48.140
It sounds like she answered the question herself, right?
00:47:55.320
No, I'm asking you if the president believes that the vice president was in full support
00:48:01.640
I believe, and as you have seen them in the past three and a half years, they've been
00:48:08.180
It doesn't matter if it's domestic issues, also foreign policy issues.
00:48:12.400
And that has been the case from day one and continues to be the case.
00:48:20.960
By the way, it wasn't withdrawing our troops that was a mistake.
00:48:24.000
It was the manner in which they were withdrawn.
00:48:27.760
Donald Trump brought tens of thousands of our troops home from the Middle East without
00:48:32.560
incident, without the countries they were leaving collapsing into the hands of the enemy
00:48:39.940
The American taxpayers have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on sophisticated drone
00:48:45.520
technology, which has been used throughout the Middle East to pin down the radicals, pin
00:48:52.720
down the extremists, pin down our enemies, and in this case should have been used to cover
00:48:58.820
the retreat and withdrawal of our men and women.
00:49:06.060
All use of drones in the region ended the day after Joe Biden was sworn in.
00:49:13.760
It's kind of like the border, where they repealed all of Donald Trump's executive orders, which
00:49:21.420
had really dropped illegal crossings of the southern border to a virtual trickle.
00:49:29.200
When Joe Biden says illegal crossings are lower today than they were any time during the Trump
00:49:36.960
administration, that is, of course, yet another one of his massive lies.
00:49:44.780
Troy, I've got to ask you, I'm sure you saw the interview over the weekend where the kind
00:49:51.240
of appeared to be a pretty pissed off Joe Biden said, look, the polls showed it was a neck
00:50:02.680
I think I could have won it, but some in my own party, speaking, I think, of Nancy Pelosi
00:50:10.860
and Chuck Schumer, believed that I would hurt Democrats down ballot.
00:50:17.640
I'm not quoting him exactly, but pretty closely.
00:50:24.240
Joe Biden does not seem to be a very happy man right now.
00:50:29.340
He's a proud man, wanted to stay into this race.
00:50:32.840
And then this is followed by an interview with Nancy Pelosi, who seems inebriated to me, and
00:50:42.080
therefore, in veto veritas, in vino veritas, people tell the truth when they're drunk.
00:50:48.100
She basically says, yeah, I never had a high regard for Joe's political team.
00:51:02.020
In the meantime, if anybody had been watching the Stone Zone for the last two weeks, they
00:51:09.360
would know that Barack Obama is now in control of the Kamala Harris campaign, that he moved
00:51:17.560
his three top political people in David Plouffe, I think is how you say his name.
00:51:23.880
Stephanie Cutter, and Michael Stewart, into Kamala's campaign, essentially to take charge.
00:51:33.160
And this entire Kamala Harris psyop that we're being subjected to is largely being directed,
00:51:46.480
Well, first of all, the poll figures you've seen, virtually every poll that shows her either
00:51:52.660
surging or pulling ahead of Donald Trump, if you will merely look at the crosstabs and
00:51:57.920
study them, you'll see that they have purposely oversampled Democrats to give Kamala Harris an
00:52:06.400
I speak specifically of the New York Times, a Siena college poll, which got huge coverage
00:52:16.560
The use of AI to make it look like she's drawing enormous crowds.
00:52:26.580
What's really funny is that they object to our pointing it out.
00:52:36.680
When is she going to have a serious one-on-one interview?
00:52:44.640
I mean, this is a woman who's trying to tell us that she has the qualifications and the ability
00:52:49.520
to think to be president of the United States, but she's afraid to go on with Elon Musk.
00:52:57.380
And then you have the entire finance issue, the Act Blue issue.
00:53:02.500
I know, Troy, that you've been focused on this as an investigative journalist.
00:53:07.540
We saw this pattern in 2022, where U.S. Senate candidates like Val Demings in Florida and
00:53:18.600
Raphael Warnock in Georgia and the odious Adam Schiff, Attorney General Letitia James,
00:53:30.080
received millions and millions of contributions, in most cases, small contributions given multiple
00:53:38.600
times, given a large number of times over time.
00:53:43.020
But then when you contact the donor, they either say, well, I gave once and I gave $5, but I
00:53:50.360
haven't given any more and I didn't give to that candidate.
00:53:52.940
Or they say, I have no idea what you're talking about.
00:53:56.460
I'm not interested in politics and I didn't give to anyone.
00:53:59.380
So what I think needs to happen here, Troy, is that all of those suspect donations and donors
00:54:08.300
And yes, a complaint can be filed with the Federal Election Commission, although I doubt
00:54:14.700
very much that we'll get satisfaction there, because, as you know, the commission is divided
00:54:22.140
with three Republicans and three Democrats, and therefore any effort on enforcement gets
00:54:30.140
But I do think that there's probably a lawsuit there, because there's a clear violation of
00:54:37.620
So to recap, the polls are phony, the crowds are phony, the excitement surrounding her candidacy
00:54:52.800
But I actually think last night's Twitter space with Donald Trump and Elon Musk, well, I
00:55:03.540
We're now moving into what will be a real election.
00:55:07.620
Well, and Roger, I'll add there, you know, I watch all of these Harris speeches because
00:55:14.060
And, you know, I find it very interesting because the clipping for me has become very
00:55:18.780
Because you just take the clip, you put it right when Walt stops speaking, when Harris
00:55:24.460
And you really don't have to change it up because it's the exact same speech every place they
00:55:32.680
They have, they're bragging now saying, oh, we're doing eight rallies.
00:55:40.220
I mean, like, exact same speech, word for word.
00:55:46.120
Last night I had the, you know, I clipped the Trump speeches as well, Roger.
00:55:50.060
And last night I had the honor of sitting there watching his latest Montana rally.
00:55:54.300
And I even texted you about it because it was so good.
00:55:58.540
I mean, he has a teleprompter to kind of keep him anchored.
00:56:07.500
You know, when Harris has these rallies, as you said, it's manufactured.
00:56:10.400
And we know it's manufactured because the crowds are all cheering at her saying the exact same
00:56:15.200
And despite the fact that it's all across the country, you know, it's these, these
00:56:21.900
And if you listen to how they cheer, the Trump crowds actually react to what is being said.
00:56:32.380
The Democrat crowds, Tim Walz says, I used to be a football coach, roaring crowd.
00:56:38.160
I used to be, you know, he lies and he says, I was in war.
00:56:45.880
He says, oh, I was born 45, you know, I was born 45 minutes afternoon.
00:56:51.380
You know, it's just, it's like a robotic reaction.
00:56:55.640
Last thing I'll say, Roger, you got to remember the Democrat donors at the behest of Barack Obama
00:57:02.460
paused over a hundred million dollars in donations to the Joe Biden campaign.
00:57:07.420
So when they say, oh, we raised a hundred million dollars, keep in mind, that's a hundred million
00:57:11.780
dollars that was being withheld from Joe Biden's campaign.
00:57:14.620
I don't see anybody talking about that angle of it.
00:57:19.660
Thank you for joining us for today's version of the Stone Zone.
00:57:26.160
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00:57:33.340
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00:57:40.460
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00:57:51.560
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00:58:02.220
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00:58:06.420
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00:58:12.840
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00:58:16.200
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00:58:25.560
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