00:01:47.880This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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00:01:58.000You are now entering the Stone Zone, and we're still sifting through the ashes of the disastrous Tuesday that was recently experienced by President Donald Trump and the Republicans, and things are moving very quickly in Washington.
00:02:18.080The promotion of Stephen Miller to the position of White House Chief of Staff shows that Trump is moving to a war footing.
00:02:25.880Miller, who's a very tough and smart guy, is a wartime conciliary, as I told Axios.
00:02:34.060The decision to put Stephen Miller in charge places one of the administration's most consistent advocates of the concept of expansive presidential power in a top staff role at the moment the Democrats take control of Congress.0.84
00:02:49.280Mr. Miller has a few tools available to them. First, of course, is executive power, which he understands, the executive order, which he understands, the veto power.
00:03:00.640Obviously, also many items end up in the courts, which is always problematic because the D.C. bar is heavily politicized.
00:03:10.640But he is the right guy if you're going to a fight, and Trump is definitely going to a fight.
00:03:16.020Those who planned and executed the Russian collusion hoax, the two phony impeachments, the stolen election, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, the entire Arctic Frost January 6th cabal, those people were not only never prosecuted, but they're free and walking the streets.
00:03:34.780Norm Eisen, Mark Elias. These guys plan an entire tsunami of lawfare against Donald Trump and his
00:03:44.860family and his appointees and his supporters, as well as these congressional investigations where
00:03:51.520Robert Garcia is telling Republicans just blindly to lawyer up. So Miller, in my view, is the right
00:03:59.060man for the time. Fighting is what he does best. His appointment is somewhat ironic because one of
00:04:06.640the elements of the disastrous election were the optics of the deportation of some illegals in the
00:04:17.140country. And despite incidents, at least two incidents, which people were killed and where
00:04:25.260there are other disputes. The polls continue to show that about 80 percent of the American people
00:04:30.760do want illegal immigrants to be deported. The president, I think, in a 60 Minutes interview
00:04:37.460today came to a place where many Americans are, where he said, look, I should get credit for
00:04:43.400getting the bad ones out. But when you have someone who's been in the country, say a couple,
00:04:48.980they've been here for 15, 20 years, they're employed, they pay taxes, they've never had
00:04:54.820any problems with the law. The look of deporting them was probably, in retrospect, too tough. So
00:05:01.900the president, I think, is modifying his immigration. It is not amnesty. I've always
00:05:08.320thought that targeting, realistically, there are 25 million illegals in the country, perhaps 30.
00:05:14.760You were never realistically going to deport them all. They had to be prioritized. And by prioritizing those who had criminal records either here or in their country of origin or charges pending against them here or there, they should have been the priority.
00:05:30.900And the other major problem here was not so much with ICE, because ICE, under Tom Homan, is a finely tuned group of law enforcement professionals with extensive experience with deportation and the arrest process and so on.
00:05:48.020Most of the problems, it turns out, were by the Border Patrol.
00:05:52.600Now, under the rules, when a task force goes out to arrest a specific illegal, there's supposed to be three ICE officers and three Border Patrol officers.
00:06:03.520But that has not always been the case.
00:06:05.380In the one incident in which a man was shot and killed and there was a dispute over it, those were all Border Patrol agents.
00:06:11.180The Border Patrol agents tended under, particularly under Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security at the time, had thin training and very little law enforcement experience.
00:06:22.740But it would be overstating the optics of immigration as the role for the Republican defeat.
00:06:29.700It's certainly, to some extent, a contributing factor.
00:06:32.520But look, I think J.D. Vance put his finger on it when he said that we promised the people no new wars.
00:09:15.960In the meantime, you see the Democrats are threatening.
00:09:18.480President Trump actually directed the Justice Department over the weekend
00:09:21.080to examine whether statements by Democrat leaders
00:09:23.800constitute unlawful intimidation or extortion.
00:09:26.260In a true social post, the president went on the offensive and accused the Democrats of threatening administration officials, including Attorney General Todd Blanchard, impeachment and Republican donors with imprisonment, despite the fact that they have no grounds to do so.
00:09:39.900The president specifically cited Senator Laysa Slotkin of Michigan, former CIA.
00:09:46.380She got caught on a surreptitious audio saying that they had prepared special cases for Trump and his family.
00:09:53.960They will send them to the relevant committees to begin this entire investigative practical examination by the Democrats.
00:10:04.660The president correctly called the alleged conduct extortion at the highest level.
00:10:09.140As I said earlier, Chairman Robert Garcia, who eventually will charge the Oversight Committee, basically shouted lawyer up, which doesn't seem like he has a very open mind.
00:10:20.600Democrat leaders have already signaled they're going to pursue these hearings, subpoenas, and possible impeachment proceedings against Trump and administration figures.
00:10:28.600Ironically, I think some of your saner Democrats take, for example, Hakeem Jeffries.
00:10:35.260Hakeem Jeffries, yes, he is out there on the left.
00:13:18.180There were more generals now than we had at the end of World War II.
00:13:20.920He got rid of a lot of globalist generals, and he essentially started to demand fitness, both mental and physical fitness, of our soldiers and our service.
00:13:30.380So he refashioned the military into the lethal fighting machine that it's supposed to be to both defend us and to defend our interests abroad.
00:13:40.900But at the same time, if it's accurate that he told the president that it would be six to eight weeks before the Iran conflict was over, then he was woefully wrong about that.
00:13:50.760Again, that has been reported, but not confirmed.
00:17:36.900Welcome back into the Stone Zone. Remember the Monday before the election when some major influential figures on the American right announced that President Donald Trump had already approved a nuclear strike on Iran that would take place later that week.
00:17:53.500Another variation was that Trump had given Bibi Netanyahu permission to launch a nuclear strike.
00:18:00.160And the people also saw this plethora of these text messages floating around the ether urging people to to stock up on water, food and so on.
00:18:16.080So they conflated these two. I called the president and he told me it was categorically false.
00:18:21.220I actually broke my hiatus and went on the Alex Jones show to confront him and tell him this was a lie, I think, put forward to destabilize the president going into the election.
00:18:33.740In fact, within that, the next day, the day of the election, Trump announced that we were no longer subsidizing Israel to the tune of $4 billion a year.
00:18:43.200So he's cut all foreign aid to Israel.
00:18:45.400President said Sunday he's now unlikely to order another major strike on Iran if negotiations advance, while noting that U.S. forces have already identified Iranian infrastructure targets.0.75
00:18:56.120So he's always obviously going to preserve that option. He's never going to announce that he's not going to do it.
00:19:01.380He announced that the task force Iron Gate is fully operational and combined with existing naval blockade, he has sharply limited goods moving in and out of Iran.
00:19:09.900The task force, which is directed by Central Command, focuses on disrupting the movement of weapons, dual use technologies and sanctioned materials across land borders and Caspian Sea.
00:19:20.500We have full sanctions on them. They can't get their oil out. They have no revenues.
00:19:25.480Separately, the U.S. military disabled a commercial vessel in the Gulf of Oman
00:19:30.200that attempted to breach the U.S. blockade.
00:19:33.100Iranian reported tanker explosions near the Straits of Ramos around the same time.
00:19:37.540The combination of a softened public threat and expanded enforcement measures
00:19:41.640keeps unprecedented economic pressure in place on the Iranians
00:19:54.440In other words, no boots on the ground.
00:19:56.600The vessel incident and the reported explosions demonstrate how quickly enforcement agents can actually produce direct contact.
00:20:03.700Whether the pressure produces concessions or further incident will depend on the pace of any talks.
00:20:08.480I'm skeptical that Iran will ever be willing to talk, but President Trump has made it clear that the midterms have not softened his resolve that they must never have a nuclear device.
00:20:19.220For those who think this is a new position, in all honesty, when he and I visited New Hampshire, when he flirted with the presidential candidacy in 1988, in that speech, he said that the Iranian regime can never be allowed to have a nuclear device.
00:20:35.000So this is not a new position on his part. And perhaps he sacrificed his most recent election to do what was right for the country. That's certainly what he says. Whether the war was ever winnable, whether the ceasefire did more damage than the actual entry, as some neocons argue.
00:20:53.700I'm not a military guy, so I can't assess that.
00:20:56.740But he has clearly not softened his line in terms of their getting access to a nuclear device,
00:21:03.240which they could submit us to nuclear blackmail and perhaps detonate the world.
00:21:09.940I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to Stone Zone.
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00:21:23.700This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:21:34.380Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:24:58.400The president made an observation that I've made here in the Stone Zone many times, and that is the priority for the deportation of illegals should always have been on illegal immigrants from the country who were criminals, had either a criminal record here or in their country of origin or were facing charges here or there.0.87
00:25:18.960That should always have been the gang bangers, the gang members, the hoodlums.0.97
00:25:23.860That should have always been the first target.
00:25:28.380But when you talk about the older couple, say, Jose and Olga, he works as a gardener.
00:25:34.740She works as a housekeeper or a chambermaid.
00:25:38.580And they've been in the country for 20 or 30 years.
00:26:45.860that I think there needs to be some kind of a temporary residence status.
00:26:52.120They don't get citizenship, which means they don't ultimately get to vote,
00:26:55.520because that is the Democrats' plan to try to change the makeup of our electorate0.92
00:27:00.220by flooding us with illegals and then figure out some way for them to vote.
00:27:04.580A number of cities have already legally approved illegal immigrants,0.95
00:27:10.100non-citizens voting in local elections.0.80
00:27:13.180They will ultimately try to do it for all elections.
00:27:16.100I do think that there's room for Republicans to work with Democrats to create an immigration bill that protects American jobs, American children, American workers, and American interests,
00:27:26.160while allowing for some common sense immigration into the country to meet the new labor demands of the Trump economy.
00:27:33.120It's an economy which is affording companies the ability to expand like never before.
00:31:19.080Executive power is extraordinary, and American presidents have gotten stronger.
00:31:23.860He has the executive order to achieve his policy goals.
00:31:28.940He has the veto on all the crazy legislation the Democrats may pass.
00:31:35.120And he's going to have to fend off these investigations into his family, his friends, his appointees, because I don't think the left of the Democrat Party is going to be assaged with any kind of positive program.
00:31:50.180They're going to want to destroy Trump world once and for all.
00:31:53.760So the president has moved to a war footing.
00:32:31.600So meanwhile, I can't figure out what's going on with Senate Republicans, John Thune, a Karl Rove client who could not get the Save Act passed, who I think had 51 votes with the vice president, but refused to violate the ancient filibuster rule in the U.S. Senate, which requires that any piece of legislation, any action in the Senate must actually have 60 votes before it can proceed to a vote.
00:32:57.480we should do away with the filibuster and start passing legislation. John Thune has
00:33:03.600refused to do that. The SAVE Act would, I think, avoided some of the reports of fraud in the most
00:33:10.980recent election, although it was not as widespread as I would have thought it was of these reports.
00:33:15.680I mean, I haven't had time to evaluate all of them. Some troubling data out of Texas that 200,000
00:33:22.100illegals may have voted, but by and large, John Thune has the nerves to announce that he's running
00:33:28.600for re-election to be the majority leader, and he's trying to rush the process to immediate caucus.
00:33:35.340A number of senators have objected. Senator Dave McCormick from Pennsylvania, Jim Banks
00:33:40.320of Indiana, John Kennedy of Louisiana, Rick Scott, and Mike Lee have all objected, saying
00:33:46.100the party needs to take a little bit of time to reflect after the midterm and why they need to
00:33:51.520rush to a caucus immediately. Personally, I think that some senator needs to step forward and
00:33:58.320challenge John Thune. There are two who come to mind. Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin has proven
00:34:03.840to be a true crusader, particularly on the COVID issue and other government secrets. And of course,
00:34:10.080Florida's own Rick Scott. Rick Scott has really turned out to be a fighter. He ran twice for
00:34:16.220majority leader. He challenged Mitch McConnell, as a matter of fact, and ultimately would have
00:34:22.600been a much better choice, certainly a better choice than John Thune. It's interesting that
00:34:28.820Rick Scott shared a letter signed by Ron Johnson calling for a delay, pointing out that Senate
00:34:35.560Republican rules contemplate leadership elections between January 3rd and January 10th. As Senator
00:34:42.560Lee said they've often been held earlier than that, but perhaps Senate Republicans should assess
00:34:47.660leadership candidates based on how they lead the conference over the next few weeks while we still
00:34:52.360have a majority, especially while the full membership of the next conference is being
00:34:56.680determined. He's speaking of the lame duck sessions. Republicans will have about 30 days in which they
00:35:01.900have a majority in both houses. They can approve judgeships, they can approve ambassadorships,
00:35:06.540They can approve legislation. They can cut budgets. They have enormous power.
00:35:12.540We should see how Mr. Thune conducts himself in that. He has not proven to be a fighter.
00:35:17.800Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has already thrown in the towel.
00:35:21.320He has announced that he will not only not run for leader again, but I don't believe he is going to stand for re-election.
00:35:28.360I have to double check that. I saw that on the ticker tape a few minutes ago.
00:35:32.780President Donald Trump says Sunday he expects to sit down with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of next week's summit in Xinjiang, which shows that he still has the bully pulpit and he still has the power and the prestige of the presidency of the United States.
00:35:51.720The president says he anticipates talking to three leaders about nuclear arms control and efforts to end the Iran war in which the president is clearly fully engaged.
00:36:02.780This is the guy who they criticized for voting for meeting with the leader of the North Korean dictatorship and talking them into ending their nuclear power, the nuclear weapons development program, something they turned back on when Joe Biden became president.
00:36:17.980I'm Roger Stone, listening to Stone Zone. Don't go away, because we'll be right back.
00:36:23.840The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:36:32.780this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:36:45.660political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:36:50.440political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone welcome back to
00:36:58.540the Stone Zone. You know, Charlie Kirk was a good friend of mine. I can't tell you how much I miss
00:37:03.640him and how much Republicans missed him in this last election. I find it shocking now that the
00:37:09.540judge, in the case of the man accused of shooting and killing Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, says
00:37:16.340that jury selection can begin in 2028. That's two years from now. I don't know why this trial
00:37:24.760should be delayed. I'm not a conspiracy
00:37:54.500expert on this, but I'd like to see that trial a lot sooner. Meanwhile, thousands of demonstrators
00:37:59.320marched in New York this past Saturday under the slogan, no Schumer, no Jeffries, demanding that
00:38:05.320neither Chuck Schumer nor House Leader Hakeem Jeffries retain their positions. I must tell you,
00:38:11.920looking at polling in New York State over the last couple of weeks, Chuck Schumer's unfavorable
00:38:17.440rating among all voters, including Democrats, is extraordinarily high. It's time for the senator
00:38:23.260to hang it up. If he's challenged in the Democrat primary by AOC or any other, let's say, Hispanic0.95
00:38:31.060woman candidate who can raise money, which the socialists can do, the DSA group can do,0.75
00:38:37.500the progressive groups can do, Chuck is toast. This march on Saturday was organized by progressive
00:38:43.800groups, including the New York City chapter, the Democratic Socialists of America. They moved from
00:38:49.020Times Square and downtown participants carried signs rejecting the current Democrat leadership
00:38:54.620as too moderate and chanted against immigration and customs enforcement presence in New York City.
00:39:01.260Organizers framed the event as claiming credit for the midterm results
00:39:05.000and asserting their control over the party's direction.
00:39:09.000So the left wing of the Democratic coalition is threatening the election victory
00:39:12.680as a mandate to replace the figures who currently lead both chambers.
00:39:16.580Schumer and Jeffries, who spent years in their roles because they are servants largely in the lobbyists and special interests, are really at risk.
00:39:26.480The radical left has no tolerance for them.
00:39:28.940They want to destroy anything that is an impediment to their full-blown goal of communism for the country.
00:39:35.220Schumer and Jeffries may be barely able to hang on to their leadership posts this time around, but I would not bet on it.
00:39:41.540There are talk of challenges to both of them within their caucuses.0.84
00:39:46.580And again, the lunatics are getting very close here to controlling the asylum.
00:39:52.040And when that happens, as I've said many times in the show, it's over for the once great Democrat Party,
00:39:57.680the Democrat Party of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the Democrat Party of Ed Koch,
00:40:03.260the Democrat Party of Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy,
00:40:07.560both of them, by the way, hardline anti-communist, pro-capitalist, pro-free enterprise,
00:40:13.460pro-God, in favor of a strong national defense, the Democrat Party of Henry Scoop Jackson.
00:40:20.580That Democrat Party no longer exists, having been hijacked by a radical Marxist clique
00:40:27.200that includes Mamdami and AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Elisa Slotkin, and others.
00:40:39.920So I don't think that a white Democrat can win a primary or a Catholic Democrat can win a primary in New York State.
00:40:48.760The demographics of that party have changed so radically, and the money and the energy is on the far progressive left.
00:40:57.420So that is our political analysis for today.
00:41:00.200I want to thank you for joining us in the Stone Zone, where every day we try to bring you the inside skinny on what's happening on the American political scene.
00:41:08.600as I see it. We are in for an extraordinary two years, and President Trump moves to a war footing
00:41:16.800while the Democrats begin to launch not only a tsunami of lawfare, but a tsunami of investigations
00:41:23.880into every nook and cranny of the Trump family and the Trump administration. So buckle your
00:41:30.260seatbelts. Again, until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.