The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Stockwell Day ｜ 04-04-25

00:00:00.000 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. The Canadian federal election is scheduled for Monday, April 28th.

00:00:08.060 This date was set after Prime Minister Mark Carney, who became Prime Minister upon the resignation of Justin Trudeau,

00:00:16.740 advised the Governor General to dissolve Parliament on March 23rd, 2025, triggering a 36-day campaign period.

00:00:25.680 Joining me now is Stockwell Day. Stockwell Day has a long career in the forefront of public policy development

00:00:35.340 at the federal, provincial, and municipal levels of government.

00:00:39.900 He served as a member of the Alberta legislature, a member of the Canadian Parliament,

00:00:45.400 a high-profile provincial and federal cabinet minister, and as Canada's leader of Her Majesty's official opposition team.

00:00:55.680 At every stage, he's worked tirelessly to advocate for Canadians and for freedom.

00:01:01.020 I had the blessed opportunity to actually meet him in church, and I'm delighted that he agreed to join us today.

00:01:09.320 Stockwell, welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:01:12.440 Thank you, Roger. Good to be with you.

00:01:14.300 I'm a great admirer of Pierre Palliev, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, the head of the official opposition,

00:01:24.640 and I have to play this short clip of him schooling a member of the fake news media.

00:01:32.160 On the topic, I mean, in terms of your sort of strategy currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway.

00:01:40.200 What does that mean?

00:01:40.860 Well, appealing to people's more emotional levels, I would guess.

00:01:48.300 I mean, certainly you tap very strong ideological language quite frequently.

00:01:54.640 Like what?

00:01:57.060 Left wing, you know, this and that, right wing, you know, I mean, it's that type of ideological thing.

00:02:02.700 I never really talk about left or right.

00:02:04.020 I don't really believe in that.

00:02:05.560 Okay. A lot of people would say that you're simply taking a page out of the Donald Trump book.

00:02:11.780 Probably like which people would say that.

00:02:14.020 Well, I'm sure a great many Canadians, but...

00:02:17.540 Like who?

00:02:17.960 Well, I don't know who, but...

00:02:20.620 Well, you're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.

00:02:24.100 Okay.

00:02:25.120 I'm sure there's some out there, but anyways, the point of this question is, I mean, why should Canadians trust you with their vote,

00:02:34.260 given, you know, not just the sort of ideological inclination in terms of taking the page out of Donald Trump's book, but also...

00:02:42.460 What are you talking about? What page? What page? Can you give me a page? Give me the page.

00:02:45.720 You keep saying that.

00:02:47.580 In terms of turning things quite dramatically in terms of Trudeau and the left wing and all of this, I mean, you make quite a, you know, it's quite a play that you make on it.

00:02:57.660 So, I'm just wondering.

00:02:58.280 I'm not sure. I don't know what your question is.

00:03:01.020 Okay. Then forget that. Why should Canadians trust you with their vote?

00:03:05.440 Common sense. Common sense for a change.

00:03:10.100 We're going to make common sense common in this country. We don't have any common sense in the current government.

00:03:17.100 You know, the guy prints $600 billion, grows our money supply by 32% in three years.

00:03:24.460 That's growing the money eight times faster than the economy.

00:03:29.040 No wonder we have the worst inflation in four decades.

00:03:31.940 I'm going to cap spending, cut waste, so that we can balance the budget and bring down inflation and interest rates.

00:03:38.020 You'll want to be able to pay your mortgage again. You'll want to be able to afford rent.

00:03:41.080 Then you have to vote for Pierre Polyev because I'm the only one with a common sense plan that will bring back the buying power of your paycheck.

00:03:49.520 Now, if you saw the actual video of that, Pierre Polyev is calmly eating an apple through the entire thing.

00:03:57.340 It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

00:03:59.400 Tucker Carlson actually sent me that audio by text. We both enjoyed it.

00:04:04.640 Stock, you know the man. Tell us about him.

00:04:08.740 Well, I do know him. I've had the honor.

00:04:10.900 When I ran to be leader of the official opposition, this is 20 years ago, over 20 years ago in Canada,

00:04:15.300 Pierre at the time was a young, fired-up university student.

00:04:21.220 And just because of the way he could connect with people, we got him to run our campus outreach program right across the country.

00:04:29.360 He brought in just, you know, tons of young and college-age and educated vote.

00:04:35.300 Then when I got elected, I successfully won that particular leadership campaign.

00:04:40.900 Pierre agreed to come to Ottawa with me as my assistant,

00:04:44.200 worked with me for a couple of years in that regard.

00:04:46.660 So I know him well, and I've watched him with great satisfaction mature over the years.

00:04:52.860 And not that he needed a lot of maturity, but he's learned a lot.

00:04:57.040 So I'm not surprised.

00:04:58.180 This is the type of way he addresses.

00:05:00.800 He expects direct answers from direct questions, which you don't often get from media.

00:05:06.160 And so I'm not surprised to see him do this and very pleased to see how he is, how he's running things as leader of the official opposition right now in Canada.

00:05:16.500 How would you describe the factors that led to Justin Trudeau's resignation?

00:05:22.980 Well, my wife is Cuban-American. 0.96

00:05:27.400 She fully believes the idea that he may be the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro and Margaret Trudeau, who, let's face it, did, as they say, get around.

00:05:38.120 I don't know whether that's true or not, but I do know he's an authoritarian.

00:05:41.400 I do know when you seize the bank accounts of people because you don't agree with their views.

00:05:45.680 I do know when you want every citizen in the country who owns a firearm to register the fact that they own it, that that's a step in an authoritarian direction.

00:05:57.180 When you throw people in jail because they disagree with government policy, people like Tomorrow List and Chris Barber, two folks that I know, I know what he is.

00:06:10.060 But how would you describe the factors that led to his resignation?

00:06:13.300 Well, I'm not surprised to see you've done the research there.

00:06:17.940 Those are all true factual events that you've talked about.

00:06:23.900 The other, the way you started with the rumors, well, you know, that's out there and we'll let that float as it may.

00:06:29.260 It took a number of years for mainstream media in Canada, which leans significantly liberal, small and small L and large.

00:06:39.260 It took a long time for them to begin to report, I would say, the negative side of what he was doing.

00:06:49.080 And really what you heard Pierre Polyev articulate at the start of the program here, it's the terrible impact of the fiscal policies.

00:07:00.900 People have lost their buying power.

00:07:02.480 People are not able to purchase homes.

00:07:05.780 On and on it goes, inflation.

00:07:08.360 And it just became so increasingly obvious that media, mainstream media, had to really start reporting it.

00:07:17.480 And as you know, with mainstream media, they largely affect the undecided people in a population.

00:07:23.220 In Canada, at any particular time, that can be 5% to 8%, 9% of people.

00:07:30.600 And they finally, through Polyev focusing on it with real intensity and forcing the questions to be asked,

00:07:38.840 the public in general became increasingly disillusioned with Justin Trudeau because of how they saw what they saw happening, mainly in their own buying power.

00:07:53.100 We literally saw our future dissipating in front of our eyes.

00:07:58.180 Mainstream media had to start reporting that the last couple of years, as they did and started reporting accurately.

00:08:04.100 Trudeau continued to fall in the polls, and Pierre Polyev continued to rise.

00:08:09.880 One of the major factors in this country in 2020 was the widespread use of censorship, mostly on the Internet, but censorship across the board.

00:08:20.780 We now know, thanks to Elon Musk and his release of internal documents, that our own American government was coordinating with all of these social media giants to essentially silence any voice that talked about whether it was the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination,

00:08:40.060 or whether it was the legitimacy and integrity of our elections, or whether it was Hunter Biden's laptop, which we turned out, thanks to the great reporting of the New York Post, to be completely authentic and real.

00:08:55.140 I'm concerned about the extent to which censorship by the government is a real problem, even worse than in the United States, in Canada.

00:09:04.580 Your thoughts?

00:09:05.300 Well, it's a problem, and the way it works is the government financing of what they call, or what we call legacy media, mainstream media, the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and some other mainstream media.

00:09:22.220 They have significant subsidies available to them that other media don't.

00:09:27.180 And that's part of, along with the fact, Roger, that most people in mainstream media have been schooled in a philosophical and political worldview, which cranks significantly to the left, which is, in fact, culturally Marxist in terms of its viewpoint.

00:09:46.780 And that added with the fact that they could actually lose subsidies, their entire subsidy, if the conservatives get elected.

00:09:56.660 I believe it just, you know, it strikes terror in their heart on the one hand, and they're absolutely convinced to the core that small-seat conservatism is evil, and therefore a threat, and therefore taking a culturally Marxist view, which is, and is, you know, Marx himself.

00:10:15.120 I'm not saying the media are communists.

00:10:16.440 I'm using the expression culturally Marxist, which is, if there are voices that are speaking out against what the policy of the day is, the voices must be silent.

00:10:27.860 And, of course, the way, you know, Stalin did it, and the way through the Soviet years it happened, people would just be, you know, eliminated in the public square.

00:10:35.600 It's different now, thank God, we have a democracy, but the forces of the bees still find a way to eliminate in the public square or cancel people.

00:10:46.880 Obviously, they don't physically do that.

00:10:49.100 But it's been the use of that power, the use of the large megaphone of mainstream media with the voice application of government subsidies that leads to self-censorship.

00:11:04.560 First of all, people are afraid to speak up, and then actual censorship.

00:11:09.340 It's happened to me when I was canceled a few years ago.

00:11:13.040 It's happened to others, and they wield that as a club, which literally bludgeons anybody who wants to speak up on certain matters that are going against what they are trying to carve out as the mainstream view, mainstream philosophical worldview.

00:11:35.720 It's an awful instrument.

00:11:38.960 We have seen the ability to speak freely without extreme punishment.

00:11:44.080 We've seen that increase in Canada.

00:11:47.020 It was alarming to our international friends to see Justin Trudeau, actually, to seize bank accounts on a trucker convoy that had emerged in Ottawa.

00:11:57.560 And at the end of the day, after all the investigations and everything else, the honking of horns, which can be irritating, was one of the things that led to people getting extremely upset.

00:12:09.480 And it was really, you know, when people actually started to come to grips with the fact that bank accounts were frozen, that began to be the start, I think, of a lot of citizens who hadn't really seen the heavy-handed government before starting to wake up and say, this is going too far.

00:12:28.540 We, of course, now only recently learned that we have the same subsidies here in the United States for legacy media.

00:12:36.520 Thanks to Elon Musk and Doge, we now know that the U.S. taxpayers sent $140 million to The New York Times.

00:12:44.540 Well, that's a lot of subscriptions.

00:12:46.140 $90 million to Politico, the fake news propaganda front that pretends to be a journalistic enterprise.

00:12:54.120 $9 million to Reuters.

00:12:58.220 I don't think government should subsidize media, period.

00:13:02.080 I frankly think the national public broadcast should be shut down.

00:13:07.600 Their reporting is not unbiased.

00:13:10.460 It's not news.

00:13:11.260 It's political propaganda.

00:13:13.320 A lot of discussion in this country regarding Justin Trudeau's place and Mark Carney and his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, who was, of course, convicted in New York City essentially for being the pimp for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:13:30.140 There are photos that can be seen widely on the Internet of them together.

00:13:35.400 Those are not deep fakes.

00:13:37.680 They're real.

00:13:39.260 Do you think the people in Canada are aware of this connection and it will have any effect on this race?

00:13:46.760 I think there's an awareness of some of the things you just talked about.

00:13:51.960 Again, the mainstream media will pursue with intensity questions that are aimed at, let's say, a conservative leader just because they are so philosophically opposed to where conservatism goes generally.

00:14:07.680 So if you get an accusation of any kind, it'll be pursued with real vigor.

00:14:12.200 If it's against a leading liberal figure, the same intensity doesn't happen.

00:14:17.820 So it'll be mentioned, and then it's like the mainstream media says, there, we've mentioned it, and then it goes away.

00:14:23.080 And so the time and opportunity it takes for something to sink into the public psyche, it just doesn't catch, it doesn't hold.

00:14:31.500 So we're saying, and conservatives are generally saying, we just want answers.

00:14:36.380 We want, whether it's to Mark Carney or if Pierre Polyev is getting hit with questions, fair enough, but we want answers and we want some intensity of purpose.

00:14:46.560 We don't see that with the media, mainstream media.

00:14:50.420 I think for your American listeners, probably comparing the CBC to a rough comparison to your national public radio would be a close comparison.

00:15:02.060 Massive amounts of money, and so naturally, I mean, we're all human beings, we're self-interested and we are aware of where our funding and our livelihood comes from.

00:15:13.360 Most of us tend not to want to really bite hard the hand that feeds us.

00:15:19.020 That is a calculus that should not be entering into the minds of journalists.

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00:15:54.180 If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Stockwell Day, a distinguished leader of Canada's Conservative Party.

00:16:02.960 And when we come back, I'm going to ask him how, if Conservatives win the next election, how Canada will respond to Trump's tariffs and the negotiations.

00:16:11.780 So whatever you do, don't touch that dial.

00:16:13.880 We'll be right back with our analysis of the upcoming Canadian elections with my guest, Stockwell Day.

00:16:22.120 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:16:25.680 And we're back.

00:16:35.080 We're talking Canadian politics with Canadian statesman Stockwell Day.

00:16:40.480 Under Prime Minister Stephen Harper, Stockwell was appointed Minister of Public Safety,

00:16:46.600 where he was responsible for the National Police Force, Federal Prisons, Border Security and Security Intelligence.

00:16:52.500 He went on to serve as Canadian Minister of International Trade, which is why my next question, I think, is most important.

00:17:00.300 Should Conservatives win the upcoming election?

00:17:03.700 How do you believe the new government will respond to President Trump's tariff positions and those upcoming negotiations?

00:17:13.880 Yeah, great question.

00:17:14.740 And Pierre Polyev has been very clear that he, we as Canadians, are not happy with the approach that the president is taking.

00:17:23.960 The history book of trade wars that are successful is a very thin one.

00:17:30.180 And we feel we are being unduly impacted.

00:17:34.140 So Pierre Polyev has already articulated some actions that he will take somewhat in a reciprocal way to push back on these.

00:17:42.360 And that's not to say that everything the U.S. is doing, you know, shouldn't be, or all the concerns shouldn't be listened to.

00:17:49.160 I posted for Mr. Carney and for Mr. Polyev, and having been, as you said, Minister of International Trade and also Minister of Public Safety,

00:17:59.960 which is your equivalent, Roger, to Homeland Security, I have said, listen, come out very strongly and say,

00:18:05.780 yes, we need to, and we can always improve at the borders.

00:18:08.580 We have great border officers, but let's put more money into our borders.

00:18:13.640 We are concerned about the fentanyl problems.

00:18:16.440 So to show that, to assure Americans of that, let's be much more aggressive, put more resources into searching out and hunting down the fentanyl production labs,

00:18:27.220 some of which do exist in Canada, and let's be very publicly, our public officials, standing up and demanding that China stop the production of the precursors that go into making fentanyl.

00:18:41.440 China is a surveillance state like none other in the world.

00:18:44.780 They know where every precursor lab in their own country is, they could shut it down.

00:18:49.520 So let's be really aggressive on those type of things.

00:18:52.540 Let's be really aggressive on serious criminal offenders who shouldn't be in the country.

00:19:05.180 Let's show the U.S. that we are concerned about that.

00:19:08.000 That's the way to do it and to calm some of the concerns.

00:19:11.020 But going this through the tariff route is not something Canadians are happy with, certainly not something that Pierre Polyev is happy with.

00:19:19.700 Well, let me say this. I've known Donald Trump for 50 years.

00:19:23.400 He is a businessman. He's a negotiator.

00:19:26.140 This is about the art of the deal.

00:19:28.080 I actually don't think he likes tariffs either.

00:19:30.300 But he does want a level playing field and he wants a reciprocal agreement.

00:19:34.280 A reciprocal agreement is good for both states, both countries.

00:19:38.160 And I think in Polyev he will find a willing partner.

00:19:41.860 And an agreement can be reached that will be good for the people of both Canada and the people of the United States.

00:19:48.520 I saw the Mexicans today announce they were dropping their tariffs.

00:19:52.560 And therefore, we will drop all of our tariffs against goods coming from Mexico.

00:19:56.560 So progress can be made.

00:19:59.280 I think you have the potential for a great partnership that works in conjunction to the betterment of both peoples.

00:20:06.340 Let me thank our guest, Stockwell Day, a Conservative Party veteran.

00:20:11.780 Stockwell, I'll see you in church this Sunday.

00:20:13.820 Thank you so much for joining us here in the Stone Zone.

00:20:17.260 Thank you so much for joining us.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - April 05, 2025

Stockwell Day ｜ 04-04-25

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