The Canadian federal election is soon to be held, and there's a lot to be said about it. In this episode of The Stone Zone, host Ross Gerber is joined by his good friend, Stockwell Day, to discuss the key issues that are on the minds of Canadian voters, and why they should vote for either of them.
00:02:47.580In terms of turning things quite dramatically in terms of Trudeau and the left wing and all of this, I mean, you make quite a, you know, it's quite a play that you make on it.
00:02:58.280I'm not sure. I don't know what your question is.
00:03:01.020Okay. Then forget that. Why should Canadians trust you with their vote?
00:03:05.440Common sense. Common sense for a change.
00:03:10.100We're going to make common sense common in this country. We don't have any common sense in the current government.
00:03:17.100You know, the guy prints $600 billion, grows our money supply by 32% in three years.
00:03:24.460That's growing the money eight times faster than the economy.
00:03:29.040No wonder we have the worst inflation in four decades.
00:03:31.940I'm going to cap spending, cut waste, so that we can balance the budget and bring down inflation and interest rates.
00:03:38.020You'll want to be able to pay your mortgage again. You'll want to be able to afford rent.
00:03:41.080Then you have to vote for Pierre Polyev because I'm the only one with a common sense plan that will bring back the buying power of your paycheck.
00:03:49.520Now, if you saw the actual video of that, Pierre Polyev is calmly eating an apple through the entire thing.
00:03:57.340It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
00:03:59.400Tucker Carlson actually sent me that audio by text. We both enjoyed it.
00:04:04.640Stock, you know the man. Tell us about him.
00:04:08.740Well, I do know him. I've had the honor.
00:04:10.900When I ran to be leader of the official opposition, this is 20 years ago, over 20 years ago in Canada,
00:04:15.300Pierre at the time was a young, fired-up university student.
00:04:21.220And just because of the way he could connect with people, we got him to run our campus outreach program right across the country.
00:04:29.360He brought in just, you know, tons of young and college-age and educated vote.
00:04:35.300Then when I got elected, I successfully won that particular leadership campaign.
00:04:40.900Pierre agreed to come to Ottawa with me as my assistant,
00:04:44.200worked with me for a couple of years in that regard.
00:04:46.660So I know him well, and I've watched him with great satisfaction mature over the years.
00:04:52.860And not that he needed a lot of maturity, but he's learned a lot.
00:05:00.800He expects direct answers from direct questions, which you don't often get from media.
00:05:06.160And so I'm not surprised to see him do this and very pleased to see how he is, how he's running things as leader of the official opposition right now in Canada.
00:05:16.500How would you describe the factors that led to Justin Trudeau's resignation?
00:05:27.400She fully believes the idea that he may be the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro and Margaret Trudeau, who, let's face it, did, as they say, get around.
00:05:38.120I don't know whether that's true or not, but I do know he's an authoritarian.
00:05:41.400I do know when you seize the bank accounts of people because you don't agree with their views.
00:05:45.680I do know when you want every citizen in the country who owns a firearm to register the fact that they own it, that that's a step in an authoritarian direction.
00:05:57.180When you throw people in jail because they disagree with government policy, people like Tomorrow List and Chris Barber, two folks that I know, I know what he is.
00:06:10.060But how would you describe the factors that led to his resignation?
00:06:13.300Well, I'm not surprised to see you've done the research there.
00:06:17.940Those are all true factual events that you've talked about.
00:06:23.900The other, the way you started with the rumors, well, you know, that's out there and we'll let that float as it may.
00:06:29.260It took a number of years for mainstream media in Canada, which leans significantly liberal, small and small L and large.
00:06:39.260It took a long time for them to begin to report, I would say, the negative side of what he was doing.
00:06:49.080And really what you heard Pierre Polyev articulate at the start of the program here, it's the terrible impact of the fiscal policies.
00:07:08.360And it just became so increasingly obvious that media, mainstream media, had to really start reporting it.
00:07:17.480And as you know, with mainstream media, they largely affect the undecided people in a population.
00:07:23.220In Canada, at any particular time, that can be 5% to 8%, 9% of people.
00:07:30.600And they finally, through Polyev focusing on it with real intensity and forcing the questions to be asked,
00:07:38.840the public in general became increasingly disillusioned with Justin Trudeau because of how they saw what they saw happening, mainly in their own buying power.
00:07:53.100We literally saw our future dissipating in front of our eyes.
00:07:58.180Mainstream media had to start reporting that the last couple of years, as they did and started reporting accurately.
00:08:04.100Trudeau continued to fall in the polls, and Pierre Polyev continued to rise.
00:08:09.880One of the major factors in this country in 2020 was the widespread use of censorship, mostly on the Internet, but censorship across the board.
00:08:20.780We now know, thanks to Elon Musk and his release of internal documents, that our own American government was coordinating with all of these social media giants to essentially silence any voice that talked about whether it was the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination,
00:08:40.060or whether it was the legitimacy and integrity of our elections, or whether it was Hunter Biden's laptop, which we turned out, thanks to the great reporting of the New York Post, to be completely authentic and real.
00:08:55.140I'm concerned about the extent to which censorship by the government is a real problem, even worse than in the United States, in Canada.
00:09:05.300Well, it's a problem, and the way it works is the government financing of what they call, or what we call legacy media, mainstream media, the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and some other mainstream media.
00:09:22.220They have significant subsidies available to them that other media don't.
00:09:27.180And that's part of, along with the fact, Roger, that most people in mainstream media have been schooled in a philosophical and political worldview, which cranks significantly to the left, which is, in fact, culturally Marxist in terms of its viewpoint.
00:09:46.780And that added with the fact that they could actually lose subsidies, their entire subsidy, if the conservatives get elected.
00:09:56.660I believe it just, you know, it strikes terror in their heart on the one hand, and they're absolutely convinced to the core that small-seat conservatism is evil, and therefore a threat, and therefore taking a culturally Marxist view, which is, and is, you know, Marx himself.
00:10:15.120I'm not saying the media are communists.
00:10:16.440I'm using the expression culturally Marxist, which is, if there are voices that are speaking out against what the policy of the day is, the voices must be silent.
00:10:27.860And, of course, the way, you know, Stalin did it, and the way through the Soviet years it happened, people would just be, you know, eliminated in the public square.
00:10:35.600It's different now, thank God, we have a democracy, but the forces of the bees still find a way to eliminate in the public square or cancel people.
00:10:46.880Obviously, they don't physically do that.
00:10:49.100But it's been the use of that power, the use of the large megaphone of mainstream media with the voice application of government subsidies that leads to self-censorship.
00:11:04.560First of all, people are afraid to speak up, and then actual censorship.
00:11:09.340It's happened to me when I was canceled a few years ago.
00:11:13.040It's happened to others, and they wield that as a club, which literally bludgeons anybody who wants to speak up on certain matters that are going against what they are trying to carve out as the mainstream view, mainstream philosophical worldview.
00:11:47.020It was alarming to our international friends to see Justin Trudeau, actually, to seize bank accounts on a trucker convoy that had emerged in Ottawa.
00:11:57.560And at the end of the day, after all the investigations and everything else, the honking of horns, which can be irritating, was one of the things that led to people getting extremely upset.
00:12:09.480And it was really, you know, when people actually started to come to grips with the fact that bank accounts were frozen, that began to be the start, I think, of a lot of citizens who hadn't really seen the heavy-handed government before starting to wake up and say, this is going too far.
00:12:28.540We, of course, now only recently learned that we have the same subsidies here in the United States for legacy media.
00:12:36.520Thanks to Elon Musk and Doge, we now know that the U.S. taxpayers sent $140 million to The New York Times.
00:13:13.320A lot of discussion in this country regarding Justin Trudeau's place and Mark Carney and his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, who was, of course, convicted in New York City essentially for being the pimp for Jeffrey Epstein.
00:13:30.140There are photos that can be seen widely on the Internet of them together.
00:13:39.260Do you think the people in Canada are aware of this connection and it will have any effect on this race?
00:13:46.760I think there's an awareness of some of the things you just talked about.
00:13:51.960Again, the mainstream media will pursue with intensity questions that are aimed at, let's say, a conservative leader just because they are so philosophically opposed to where conservatism goes generally.
00:14:07.680So if you get an accusation of any kind, it'll be pursued with real vigor.
00:14:12.200If it's against a leading liberal figure, the same intensity doesn't happen.
00:14:17.820So it'll be mentioned, and then it's like the mainstream media says, there, we've mentioned it, and then it goes away.
00:14:23.080And so the time and opportunity it takes for something to sink into the public psyche, it just doesn't catch, it doesn't hold.
00:14:31.500So we're saying, and conservatives are generally saying, we just want answers.
00:14:36.380We want, whether it's to Mark Carney or if Pierre Polyev is getting hit with questions, fair enough, but we want answers and we want some intensity of purpose.
00:14:46.560We don't see that with the media, mainstream media.
00:14:50.420I think for your American listeners, probably comparing the CBC to a rough comparison to your national public radio would be a close comparison.
00:15:02.060Massive amounts of money, and so naturally, I mean, we're all human beings, we're self-interested and we are aware of where our funding and our livelihood comes from.
00:15:13.360Most of us tend not to want to really bite hard the hand that feeds us.
00:15:19.020That is a calculus that should not be entering into the minds of journalists.
00:15:24.280This shrimp and coconut sauce is divine.
00:15:54.180If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Stockwell Day, a distinguished leader of Canada's Conservative Party.
00:16:02.960And when we come back, I'm going to ask him how, if Conservatives win the next election, how Canada will respond to Trump's tariffs and the negotiations.
00:16:11.780So whatever you do, don't touch that dial.
00:16:13.880We'll be right back with our analysis of the upcoming Canadian elections with my guest, Stockwell Day.
00:16:22.120This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:17:14.740And Pierre Polyev has been very clear that he, we as Canadians, are not happy with the approach that the president is taking.
00:17:23.960The history book of trade wars that are successful is a very thin one.
00:17:30.180And we feel we are being unduly impacted.
00:17:34.140So Pierre Polyev has already articulated some actions that he will take somewhat in a reciprocal way to push back on these.
00:17:42.360And that's not to say that everything the U.S. is doing, you know, shouldn't be, or all the concerns shouldn't be listened to.
00:17:49.160I posted for Mr. Carney and for Mr. Polyev, and having been, as you said, Minister of International Trade and also Minister of Public Safety,
00:17:59.960which is your equivalent, Roger, to Homeland Security, I have said, listen, come out very strongly and say,
00:18:05.780yes, we need to, and we can always improve at the borders.
00:18:08.580We have great border officers, but let's put more money into our borders.
00:18:13.640We are concerned about the fentanyl problems.
00:18:16.440So to show that, to assure Americans of that, let's be much more aggressive, put more resources into searching out and hunting down the fentanyl production labs,
00:18:27.220some of which do exist in Canada, and let's be very publicly, our public officials, standing up and demanding that China stop the production of the precursors that go into making fentanyl.
00:18:41.440China is a surveillance state like none other in the world.
00:18:44.780They know where every precursor lab in their own country is, they could shut it down.
00:18:49.520So let's be really aggressive on those type of things.
00:18:52.540Let's be really aggressive on serious criminal offenders who shouldn't be in the country.
00:19:05.180Let's show the U.S. that we are concerned about that.
00:19:08.000That's the way to do it and to calm some of the concerns.
00:19:11.020But going this through the tariff route is not something Canadians are happy with, certainly not something that Pierre Polyev is happy with.
00:19:19.700Well, let me say this. I've known Donald Trump for 50 years.
00:19:23.400He is a businessman. He's a negotiator.