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Roger Stone and Bobbiologist and radio legend Bubba the Love Sponge discuss the testimony of Stormy Daniels and her lawyer Keith Davidson, and how the FBI got their hands on a key piece of evidence that could have led to the arrest of Hulk Hogan and the seizure of a sex tape that was stolen from him. The Stone Zone with Roger Stone is a show about politics, culture, and pop culture. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, is a New York Times bestselling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Roger Stone, has become a pop culture icon. And now, here s your host Roger Stone on the Stone Zone: with legendary conservative strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone. and co-host Troy Smith from Slingshot News joins the show to help us break down what happened yesterday and also to look at Keith Davidson s testimony in the Daniels case and what it could have been done differently. And, of course, we have a very special guest on the show today, the legendary Bubba The Love Sponge! Bobbi Clemmen. . is a legend in the annals of American radio and radio, and is one of the greatest hosts in the history of the old school radio, Bobbiemusic. and the man who introduced him to the world of American Radio. , and he s a great friend of mine, too. He s been a friend to me, and I can t wait to have him on the rest of the country! . . . and now he s going to be a guest on The Stonezone in this episode of The StoneZONE with me on his show on The Swamp Dweller on his new show, The Swamp Thing on the Swamp Thing! with me, to talk about all that and much more! and so much more. - - and much, much more - in the Stonezone with me in this weeks episode of Swamp Thing on Swamp Thing, and much much more, coming soon! - Brent and I hope you enjoy it! The Stonez Zone -- the ,


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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.
00:00:12.260 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:16.440 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.400 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,
00:00:27.500 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:33.100 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:38.440 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:45.620 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.560 The entire country yesterday was treated to the spectacle of adult film star Stormy Daniels
00:01:00.340 going into great, salacious, and even granular detail about her alleged affair with President Donald Trump,
00:01:09.740 an affair that the president has adamantly denied.
00:01:13.420 This entire case is a travesty, particularly since Stormy Daniels is not central to the government's very weak argument.
00:01:26.480 Here to help us break down what happened yesterday and also look at Keith Davidson,
00:01:33.220 an attorney for Stormy Daniels, who testified earlier in the week,
00:01:39.680 is my usual co-host, Troy Smith from Slingshot.news.
00:01:46.960 Roger, it's always an honor to be here in the Stone Zone.
00:01:50.140 Excellent.
00:01:50.660 We have a very special guest with us today, Bubba Clem, much better known as Bubba the Love Sponge,
00:01:58.580 a legend in the annals of AM radio, whose show is at WWBA,
00:02:05.520 a good friend of mine, introduced to me by our mutual friend, Tucker Carlson,
00:02:11.360 but a man who has had direct experience with Mr. Davidson.
00:02:16.000 He joins us now in the Stone Zone.
00:02:19.280 Roger, I can never remember, I can never forget, I had such a long-time relationship with Tucker Carlson.
00:02:24.640 He was on my show back in the day on every Tuesday, and I watched Get Me Roger Stone,
00:02:29.860 and I just reached out to Tucker.
00:02:31.880 I said, Tuck, is there any chance that you could, can you give me that guy's information?
00:02:36.060 And he's like, well, yeah, he's a Floridian.
00:02:38.300 I'll get you, I'll get you him.
00:02:39.860 So that's how I met Roger Stone after watching his doc and getting a hold of Tucker Carlson,
00:02:45.020 and we've become really good friends since.
00:02:47.260 And thank you for having me on your show, Rog.
00:02:49.480 I know you've done some stuff on my show, but it's an honor to be on your show for once.
00:02:53.260 Look, I'm really delighted to have you.
00:02:56.540 You really are one of the legends of American radio.
00:03:01.660 As I've begun doing a weekly show at 77WABC in New York,
00:03:08.480 Bob, I've learned a lot just by listening to you.
00:03:11.620 So it is a great honor for us to have you.
00:03:14.880 Now, you have some personal experience, or at least I should say a personal knowledge.
00:03:21.240 Keith Davidson is a lawyer who represented Stormy Daniels.
00:03:27.600 But as I understand it, he is also a lawyer who got arrested when there was a ring seeking
00:03:35.240 to extort Hulk Hogan over a sex tape, and that he was among those involved in that attempted extortion.
00:03:47.340 Hogan went to the FBI.
00:03:48.980 The FBI set up a sting, and lo and behold, among those they snatched was Mr. Davidson.
00:03:55.720 Tell us about this.
00:03:58.140 You know, if you unravel this whole thing and what we're doing with Donald Trump being on trial
00:04:05.580 for whatever they got him on, but this could have all been maybe perhaps never happened.
00:04:12.060 And had they arrested Keith Davidson on that fateful day in December of 2012,
00:04:18.800 when as they had a sting in a major hotel and the feds came and had him face down and arrested
00:04:25.480 and for the extortion of Hulk Hogan and a sex tape that was stolen from me.
00:04:32.540 And it just – to me, I can't – it boggles my mind as to how Keith Davidson has been able
00:04:39.600 to slip through the legal cracks or the law enforcement cracks and even be Stormy's very
00:04:48.340 first attorney of which he fired then for the other scumbag, Evan Addy.
00:04:52.280 So, this guy is bad news.
00:04:55.980 He has a reputation of extorting people.
00:04:58.960 And I think Donald's people did a pretty good job at bringing up this guy's track record
00:05:05.300 or what his MO is, so to speak, in extortion.
00:05:07.800 He extorted Charlie Sheen.
00:05:09.400 He's extorted Paris Hilton.
00:05:11.460 He's been in and out of the bar as far as being a member or not a member based on some
00:05:16.340 of this stuff.
00:05:17.360 But the feds had him dead to rights with a wire and surveillance.
00:05:23.160 As Hogan wrote that $150,000 down payment of a check, the feds stormed in, got him, and
00:05:30.800 at that time, it could have put a stop to all the extortion and embezzlement, all the things
00:05:35.040 that he's done since 2012.
00:05:37.660 I can't understand how Keith Davidson is not in prison, how a lot of people aren't
00:05:43.520 in prison.
00:05:44.780 And it just shows you the weaponization of our government.
00:05:47.980 They pick and choose who they prosecute.
00:05:50.940 And then sometimes they'll use the lack of prosecution on you as a chip to use on you down
00:05:57.320 the road, which is what I think happened here.
00:05:59.820 Yeah, it certainly appears that way.
00:06:02.360 I was pretty surprised that Trump's attorneys didn't ask him point blank, didn't you
00:06:07.540 make a deal in return for turning over all of Michael Cohen's emails?
00:06:13.660 In other words, flagging the entire transaction between Cohen and Daniels and his testimony.
00:06:21.160 Did he not make a deal to avoid prosecution in return for those things?
00:06:26.020 I don't understand, Roger, like you said, I don't understand why Trump's, that would
00:06:30.620 have been a nail in the coffin of showing how much of a dirtbag this guy is, is the fact
00:06:35.160 that he's even only here because he cut a deal on not to get prosecuted on another case
00:06:40.540 that he did that they had him on.
00:06:42.080 So I don't know, just that very simple question that you just asked.
00:06:45.680 I don't know why they didn't ask it, because if it gets answered properly and correctly,
00:06:50.760 yes.
00:06:52.220 I mean, I think that I think that's the drop your mic moment on this whole situation,
00:06:56.520 I think.
00:06:57.860 No, I think you're absolutely right.
00:06:59.400 It would have impeached the testimony of Mr. Davidson.
00:07:03.460 Troy, do you have a question for radio legend Bubba the Love Sponge?
00:07:09.620 Absolutely, Bubba.
00:07:10.340 It's an honor to have you on the show here.
00:07:12.240 And I wanted to ask you, your show was actually mentioned yesterday during this trial.
00:07:16.860 And I wanted you to talk about that kind of briefly here, because it's a historic thing
00:07:21.200 to have your show mentioned in one of the biggest trials, I think, in the history of
00:07:24.100 our country here.
00:07:25.260 I often feel like Forrest Gump, how I infuse myself into some of these things.
00:07:29.020 But you know what?
00:07:29.980 I can't really talk about that situation.
00:07:32.740 I really cannot talk about that situation, unfortunately.
00:07:36.400 Folks, if you want to learn more about Bubba the Love Sponge, go to his website, BubbaArmyHQ.com.
00:07:45.140 It's an amazing website, tell you all about his storied history.
00:07:49.820 Bubba is a man who, like myself, he's been through tough times.
00:07:53.400 But like a phoenix, he has risen from the ashes to being a power yet again on terrestrial radio.
00:08:01.900 Tell us what that's been like, because I've had my own experience, as you have.
00:08:07.960 But you went through some pretty tough times, thanks to Mr. Davidson, no?
00:08:13.040 Oh, I mean, I lost it all.
00:08:14.280 I mean, I had, you know, at one time I had 26 affiliates making three and a half million
00:08:20.080 dollars.
00:08:20.560 And because I get, because the sex tape that Keith Davidson brokered gets released to Gawker,
00:08:27.620 my parent company fires me.
00:08:29.260 And I go from, you know, I go to make, I'm losing every affiliate and not losing my house,
00:08:35.400 almost losing my studios.
00:08:37.200 The guy that sent it to Gawker, Mike Calta, is the guy that has my current morning show job
00:08:43.200 that he's held now for 10 plus years.
00:08:47.200 Unbelievable.
00:08:48.140 Well, but you have, you have recovered your popularity.
00:08:51.560 You are back to being a force on the air.
00:08:55.000 I love doing your show because while the people calling in, they might ask you anything.
00:08:59.880 It's, it's wild.
00:09:01.780 It's unscripted.
00:09:02.560 It's interesting.
00:09:03.260 It's entertaining.
00:09:04.580 It's what radio really needs to be.
00:09:07.420 Uh, but, uh, the main reason I wanted to have you here today is because you could establish
00:09:12.060 and you have established, uh, that Keith Davidson offered his testimony on Tuesday and essentially
00:09:18.280 flagged the Michael Cohn, Stormy Daniels transactions to get off the hook himself, uh, to, uh, to reach
00:09:26.960 a non-prosecution agreement with the government.
00:09:29.400 Uh, amazing that Trump's attorneys did not ask him about it.
00:09:34.140 Although I agree with you.
00:09:35.160 I think they did a pretty good job in cross-examination of exposing him as a guy who makes a living
00:09:41.640 by extorting celebrities.
00:09:43.620 This is precisely what he does.
00:09:45.640 I think that they did it and probably of a less Bubba and Roger direct really shove it
00:09:51.500 up.
00:09:52.120 I think that they may have used a little more tact than we, you and I would have, but, and
00:09:57.100 maybe you were supposed to kind of just put A to B and, but I think they could have really,
00:10:02.180 really, really made it, made him come across a lot dirtier.
00:10:05.860 He's a very, he's a very horrible man.
00:10:08.540 Uh, and he shouldn't be walking the streets.
00:10:10.300 He shouldn't be a free guy right now.
00:10:12.380 And, uh, you know, it, it, how else, how else does the feds get into Michael Cohen's computer?
00:10:20.300 You think they go to, you think they went to Michael Cohen and said, Hey, Michael Cohen,
00:10:23.880 give us all your correspondence between you and Keith Davidson.
00:10:26.720 Michael Cohen told him back saying, they went to Keith Davidson and said, Hey buddy, we have
00:10:32.960 three years of statute of limitations on that Hogan no file.
00:10:35.920 So, you know what you're going to be doing?
00:10:37.620 You're going to be handing out all the texts, all the correspondence, all the emails, and
00:10:42.560 we're going to get Cohen.
00:10:43.280 We're going to backside them.
00:10:44.700 Why do you think, and again, why Trump's people didn't ask this?
00:10:48.400 Why do you think that Keith Davidson on the three, on the FBI arrest affidavit is listed
00:10:54.840 as a cooperating witness?
00:10:58.140 All right.
00:10:58.900 There, there you have it folks.
00:11:00.360 Uh, our good friend, uh, Bubba, the love sponge, uh, bringing, uh, the stone cold truth
00:11:06.140 right here to the stone zone.
00:11:08.340 Uh, Bubba, let me thank you for joining us today.
00:11:11.360 Uh, and you know what?
00:11:12.520 It's probably time for me to come back on your show whenever you're ready.
00:11:15.900 Anytime I can, I'd have you on once a week.
00:11:18.280 I love you, Roger.
00:11:19.020 And I, you've just become such a great friend and I, I just really, really appreciate the
00:11:24.240 patriot that you are.
00:11:25.420 They had you down, Roger.
00:11:26.860 They had you literally sucking, sucking a straw, you know, underwater with just a McDonald's
00:11:34.500 straw.
00:11:34.860 They almost had you and they didn't get you because you're a true fucking patriot.
00:11:39.660 I'm telling you that right now.
00:11:40.980 All right.
00:11:41.680 God bless you.
00:11:42.520 God bless Bubba Clem, Bubba, the love sponge.
00:11:45.040 And thank you for joining us today, uh, on the stone zone.
00:11:49.380 You can go to Bubba's website again, uh, Bubba army HQ.com, uh, and check that out.
00:11:56.160 And I think you will enjoy it.
00:11:57.300 All right, Troy, um, your further thoughts, uh, about, uh, the, the trial in New York.
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00:14:13.520 Welcome back, folks.
00:14:27.440 I'm Roger Stone and you are in the Stone Zone.
00:14:30.280 I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith at Slingshot.news.
00:14:35.140 If you don't subscribe to Slingshot.news, well, you certainly should do so.
00:14:40.740 It's absolutely free and you'll get cutting edge political coverage long before everyone
00:14:47.100 else.
00:14:47.660 They really are a leader.
00:14:49.340 So, Troy, let's return to Trump's New York trial.
00:14:53.780 This appears to me every day.
00:14:56.660 It seems to be more of a travesty.
00:14:58.780 There was no need, no legal need for the testimony of Stormy Daniels yesterday.
00:15:06.020 She is not central to the case.
00:15:08.540 I think the goal of the prosecution was her salacious and embarrassing testimony.
00:15:18.600 First of all, a way to try to embarrass or humiliate President Trump.
00:15:22.940 He seemed to be nonplussed.
00:15:25.100 But secondarily, to inflame the jury.
00:15:29.260 Trump, of course, has denied everything she said.
00:15:32.280 And she's also denied everything she said, both under oath and in writing.
00:15:38.680 So, taking her seriously is very, very difficult to do.
00:15:44.080 I really do think it was abusive.
00:15:47.180 On the other hand, as we discussed yesterday with Owen Schroyer here on the Stone Zone, the
00:15:54.600 judge and President Trump seem to be on a collision course.
00:15:58.700 The judge seems adamant about limiting Trump's free speech rights.
00:16:05.900 He even, I believe this morning, said that some of the comments Trump made yesterday may
00:16:11.480 have violated the gag.
00:16:13.900 Trump insists that the gag is unconstitutional and essentially says, well, he's prepared to
00:16:19.860 go to jail based on the principle of free speech.
00:16:24.020 I don't, it's just an opinion, I don't see either man backing down.
00:16:30.460 This, I think, from a political point of view, would be a cataclysmic error on the part of
00:16:37.320 the judge.
00:16:38.160 I think he just underlines the unfairness of these proceedings.
00:16:43.620 I posted yesterday on X several places where I pointed out that I had been gagged and that
00:16:49.860 gags on criminal defendants are unconstitutional.
00:16:53.800 A number of people come back and say, no, they aren't.
00:16:56.660 Well, I believe they are.
00:16:58.100 The courts have never ruled.
00:16:59.720 So there is no ruling for you to point to.
00:17:02.440 It is pretty fundamental.
00:17:04.560 Nowhere in the law does it say that if you are charged with a criminal offense that you
00:17:10.600 forfeit your First Amendment free speech rights.
00:17:14.780 And the argument that your comments defending yourself need to be barred, need to be silenced
00:17:24.960 because you might taint the jurors or the jury pool is laughable.
00:17:31.180 The New York Times and CNN and MSNBC and the rest of the fake news media are tainting the jury
00:17:39.640 pool every single day.
00:17:41.860 If you're not allowed to defend them yourself against them, that is what would taint the
00:17:47.520 jury or the jury pool.
00:17:49.160 By the way, in my case, the judge says I should be gagged because my pretrial comments might
00:17:55.100 taint the jury pool.
00:17:57.680 Yet she left the gag in place after I was unjustly convicted and right up until the time that I
00:18:04.200 was to report to a dank Georgia prison.
00:18:08.260 The jurors had already rendered their corrupted service.
00:18:12.380 The point here is just silencing you so you cannot defend yourself when you're being lynched.
00:18:20.080 Well, and Roger, I think there's a couple key elements here that you're hitting on brilliantly
00:18:25.520 there.
00:18:25.860 I think there's an unmentioned part of this that is so important.
00:18:29.520 You know, Trump is gagged.
00:18:31.580 And yet you have Michael Cohen on TikTok streaming and accepting donations in order to reveal
00:18:37.740 information about the case and about the former president.
00:18:41.180 I think that's disgraceful.
00:18:43.720 It's disgusting.
00:18:44.360 And then on top of that, Roger, you have Keith Davidson, who we just had a whole segment about.
00:18:50.580 You have Stormy Daniels, who I don't think can be trusted if you just I mean, look at the
00:18:55.120 letter, Roger.
00:18:56.280 President Trump posts a letter where Stormy Daniels denies that they ever had any kind of
00:19:00.360 relationship.
00:19:01.180 And the judge, through the unconstitutional gag order, makes him remove the post.
00:19:06.080 I think that tells you everything you need to know.
00:19:08.480 And my question to you is, how do you how do you have a legitimate case with Michael Cohen
00:19:13.880 on TikTok offering up information about the case and President Trump for donations?
00:19:19.480 I mean, that just completely destroys their entire case, doesn't it?
00:19:23.760 Well, it does.
00:19:24.580 As we've discussed on the show, we had the criminal defense lawyer David Schoen here the
00:19:29.980 other day.
00:19:31.100 They really don't have a case.
00:19:32.780 In other words, if there were changes made in a company ledger that were improper to
00:19:40.000 be illegal, they would have to have been done in order to hide some underlying crime.
00:19:46.540 But the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District already examined these transactions,
00:19:52.000 determined that there was no crime.
00:19:54.460 So did the Federal Election Commission.
00:19:56.740 By the way, there's no campaign funds involved here at all.
00:20:01.220 So what we do know is that Michael Cohen's personal funds were involved.
00:20:07.520 It is alleged that President Trump's personal funds were were involved.
00:20:12.320 We still haven't seen proof of that.
00:20:15.400 But this is the best they can do.
00:20:17.780 Very crushing news for the special counsel yesterday.
00:20:21.700 The Florida documents case, which with court ordered unredaction of so many of the documents
00:20:30.680 where special counsel Jack Smith is seeking to operate in secret, appears to be falling
00:20:36.800 apart.
00:20:37.320 At a minimum, the judge made it clear that she will not declare a trial date until after
00:20:43.380 the election.
00:20:44.260 Since the purpose of this entire, I would argue, frivolous prosecution of Trump, because I agree
00:20:53.060 that under the Presidential Records Act of, I think it's 1997, Trump has full authority
00:20:59.160 to do whatever he wants with his records.
00:21:01.840 And there's growing evidence of this as a setup where he was sent documents he didn't ask for
00:21:08.600 and then cited for possessing documents he hadn't requested.
00:21:13.080 That that case is on life support based on what I can see.
00:21:17.460 But since the whole purpose was election interference, unlikely to get to trial before this November's
00:21:26.220 election.
00:21:26.700 So now the only outstanding federal indictments against Trump, although they are numerous,
00:21:33.500 are in the so-called January 6th case in Washington, D.C.
00:21:39.280 Extraordinarily hostile judge, extraordinarily hostile jury.
00:21:43.840 You can bet on that ultimately.
00:21:45.820 Uh, but, uh, that case is stalled based on, uh, our wait for a Supreme Court ruling, uh, on
00:21:54.560 whether the president had immunity for his actions on January 6th.
00:22:00.120 Uh, no telling when the, when the Supreme Court will rule, they can kind of rule whenever they
00:22:06.280 please.
00:22:06.940 Uh, the oral arguments have already been held roughly 10 days ago.
00:22:11.800 Uh, but the, even then, uh, the court may not make a decision for a while.
00:22:17.000 And that makes, uh, a D.C., uh, uh, trial unlikely.
00:22:22.140 Now, it is notable, uh, that special counsel Jack Smith has not charged Trump specifically
00:22:29.600 with insurrection.
00:22:30.700 Uh, a conviction for insurrection, uh, would make him ineligible to be on the ballot as a
00:22:37.800 candidate for president.
00:22:38.900 That is without dispute, but for whatever reason, perhaps because he believes he cannot
00:22:44.380 prove it, uh, special counsel Jack Smith has not charged Trump, uh, in Washington, D.C.
00:22:51.020 with insurrection.
00:22:52.160 Whether or not, uh, he can get, uh, this election interference trial, uh, to actually get it to
00:23:00.600 court prior to election day.
00:23:02.740 Uh, most lawyers I speak to seem to believe it is unlikely.
00:23:06.660 Others believe it is not impossible.
00:23:08.900 It's interesting, uh, that, uh, Jay Bratt, who's a prosecutor working for Smith, actually
00:23:15.180 argued the other day that trying Trump as late as October, uh, would not violate the longstanding
00:23:21.920 Department of Justice rules that you don't bring prosecutions, uh, in the immediate, uh,
00:23:28.840 run-up to a federal election that could affect the outcome of the election.
00:23:33.920 That has always been their policy.
00:23:35.360 But when it comes to Donald Trump, there are no rules, or maybe there are special Trump
00:23:41.000 rules.
00:23:41.640 I'm not really sure.
00:23:43.320 By the way, folks, uh, coming up shortly, Cliff Mahoney, uh, one, uh, uh, of the most amazing
00:23:49.060 political organizers in the country.
00:23:51.820 They call him the door-knocking guru, uh, also a shrewd political observer.
00:23:58.100 Uh, at 32 years old, this man has directed a door-knocking on over 6 million homes.
00:24:05.320 This is the kind of shoe leather it's going to take to win the next election.
00:24:10.040 So stick with us because Cliff Mahoney will be joining us here shortly.
00:24:16.040 Uh, Troy, what else have you got here on the hit parade?
00:24:19.400 Well, Roger, we had a statement from the president this morning that I wanted to read out.
00:24:23.160 We actually have a screenshot of it.
00:24:24.740 Uh, this was sent out at 830 this morning.
00:24:26.640 It is a really bad feeling to have your constitutional right to free speech, such a big part of life
00:24:32.020 in our country, so unfairly taken from you, especially when all of the sleazebags, low
00:24:37.280 lifes, and grifters that you oppose are allowed to say absolutely anything they want.
00:24:42.740 It is hard to sit back and listen to the lies and false statements be made against you, knowing
00:24:48.260 that if you respond, even in the most modest fashion, you are told by a corrupt and highly
00:24:53.060 conflicted judge that you will be put in prison, maybe for a long period of time.
00:24:58.260 This fascist mindset is all coming from D.C.
00:25:01.880 It is a sophisticated hit job on crooked Joe Biden's political opponent, uh, and, uh, it
00:25:09.560 weighs what these thugs are doing is an attack on the Republican party and our once great nation
00:25:15.180 itself.
00:25:15.880 Our first amendment must stand free and strong.
00:25:19.280 Give me liberty or give me death.
00:25:21.300 So, Roger, you are exactly right.
00:25:23.800 The president is willing to go to jail over this unconstitutional gag order.
00:25:27.980 Uh, what are your thoughts on that statement?
00:25:30.160 The optics of that, uh, are extremely bad, I think, for the Democrats and for the prosecution.
00:25:36.880 It's interesting.
00:25:38.160 Uh, I was, uh, on the air with Alex Jones the other day and we both recall almost six months
00:25:43.740 ago when Joe Biden, who was doing his usual doddering, uh, was asked in a presser, uh, whether
00:25:51.600 he was concerned about a rematch with Donald Trump.
00:25:55.080 Uh, and he said, no, no constitution.
00:25:58.440 We're not going to let him run.
00:25:59.860 This is before the appointment of Jack Smith.
00:26:02.420 This is before the allegations regarding, uh, documents, uh, and the president's handling
00:26:08.420 of them.
00:26:09.360 This is before accusations pertaining to January 6th or even the, uh, the hearings of the January
00:26:15.700 6th Kabuki Theater, uh, which, uh, served to cover up what really happened on January 6th.
00:26:21.780 So, uh, you make a very good point.
00:26:24.460 The fact that the, that the, uh, special counsel, uh, and his deputies, uh, have met with, uh,
00:26:31.100 the folks in the Biden, uh, general counsel's office.
00:26:34.980 The fact that Fannie Wills and Nathan Wade, the prosecutors from Fulton, Georgia also met,
00:26:41.140 uh, with those at the justice department and those, uh, at the, uh, general counsel's office
00:26:47.420 of the white house.
00:26:48.060 The fact that Alvin Bragg and Leticia James, uh, both, uh, met both at justice, uh, and,
00:26:55.440 uh, with the white house council, this looks to me like a civil, uh, or a, perhaps a civil
00:27:02.380 or maybe even a criminal racketeering conspiracy.
00:27:05.380 There is clearly, uh, a, a coordinated effort.
00:27:09.340 Trump says this all the time.
00:27:11.120 These are the Biden trials.
00:27:12.680 He says the fact that Michael Coangelo, once the number three, uh, official at the Biden
00:27:19.340 justice department has now gone to the County prosecutor's office as an employee in order
00:27:26.060 to try this case really tells you everything you need to know.
00:27:30.720 They believe this is their last best chance to seek, uh, a, a conviction, a flawed conviction,
00:27:37.220 but a conviction, an unjust conviction against Donald Trump.
00:27:41.500 Uh, will they incarcerate him?
00:27:44.260 Uh, that remains to be seen.
00:27:46.740 The, the, uh, security questions surrounding the secret service, their legal requirement that
00:27:52.880 he always be, uh, protected, uh, seems to make this a logistically extraordinarily difficult.
00:27:59.320 I guess the judge could, uh, could, could sentence him to some kind of house, uh, arrest, uh, but,
00:28:08.400 uh, the gag order post-trial would be gone.
00:28:11.600 Uh, they will seek to try him in federal matters.
00:28:14.380 If the federal matters ever get to trial, uh, the whole thing is, uh, I think incredibly
00:28:21.300 transparent.
00:28:22.280 Meanwhile, the polls continue to show, uh, that Trump not only maintains his lead, uh,
00:28:29.360 in the swing states, uh, and in, and nationally, uh, but, uh, that he continues to lengthen it
00:28:36.980 slightly, uh, and it grows, uh, in intensity, uh, tomorrow on the stone zone, we're going to
00:28:43.680 take a closer look at the candidacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:28:48.020 Uh, there's a lot more polling now.
00:28:50.980 There's a lot more information now.
00:28:53.280 There's a lot more back and forth now, uh, between both, uh, Kennedy, uh, and Biden and
00:28:59.540 Kennedy and Trump.
00:29:00.960 And I think we can get a much, much better assessment, uh, about where Robert Kennedy's
00:29:07.640 votes are coming from.
00:29:08.980 Let me be clear.
00:29:10.100 I still not, do not believe that he can be elected, uh, as an independent.
00:29:14.800 I also don't believe that he will end up getting on the ballot in enough states to theoretically
00:29:20.260 win 270 electoral votes, but could he still play the role of a spoiler?
00:29:27.360 And is he taking a disproportionate number of votes from Donald Trump?
00:29:32.000 We're going to focus on this tomorrow on the stone zone.
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00:29:37.640 In the meantime, we're going to take a break for a quick commercial message, and then we'll
00:29:42.240 be back with our special guest, Cliff Mahoney.
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00:33:05.360 So now I'm pleased to have the man they call the door knocking guru, an incredible political
00:33:14.740 organizer and observer.
00:33:16.720 At the age of 32, Cliff Mahoney had directed the knocking deployments on over the doors of
00:33:23.720 six million voters.
00:33:25.680 He has an incredible record of wins, including Senator Rand Paul, Congressman Tom Massey, Georgia
00:33:33.400 Senator, Georgia Senator Colton Moore.
00:33:37.260 Very good man.
00:33:38.500 Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs and many, many others.
00:33:42.860 Cliff Mahoney, we are really delighted, in fact, honored to have you on the Stone Zone
00:33:48.780 today.
00:33:50.360 Thanks for having me, Roger.
00:33:51.700 Pleasure to be here.
00:33:53.100 It is really great to read your track record.
00:33:56.700 You are really an expert on grassroots politics.
00:34:01.720 I mean, one of the problems with politics today is because it has become so automated.
00:34:07.660 People get an automated robocall.
00:34:10.120 People get an automated text message.
00:34:13.280 People get an automated email blast.
00:34:16.920 They don't meet any real people.
00:34:18.920 The thing I like most about the way you operate is it's face-to-face contact.
00:34:25.100 It's the human element that's so important in politics.
00:34:31.420 And I think we have lost that with the automation of our political campaigns, with the new electronic
00:34:39.340 and digital sophistication of our political campaigns.
00:34:43.800 You are the father of ballot chasing, something the Democrats perfected long ago, something we
00:34:51.820 haven't done well, something we need to do well.
00:34:55.440 Tell us about that.
00:34:57.740 Yeah.
00:34:57.980 No, I appreciate the opportunity, Roger.
00:34:59.500 Look, I think what you said about technology and kind of this micro-targeting is spot on.
00:35:05.120 And what I mean by that is the pendulum will have to shift back, right?
00:35:08.200 Eventually, we've got to get back to the face-to-face.
00:35:11.140 We've got to get back to talking to people, to interacting with people on that human level.
00:35:16.180 And I do think that's something not only that I focus on, but I think the Republicans really
00:35:21.660 need to understand the left has mastered this, right?
00:35:25.420 And so when you mentioned ballot chasing, look, I hate mail-in ballots.
00:35:29.160 I get in a lot of trouble for saying it, but the reality is I do.
00:35:31.860 I'm going to vote on Election Day.
00:35:33.360 I'm going to vote in person.
00:35:34.860 I want no same-day registration.
00:35:37.180 I want all paper ballots.
00:35:38.260 But those aren't the current rules.
00:35:40.980 And so here in my home state of Pennsylvania, we have a major problem.
00:35:45.280 The problem is mail-in votes.
00:35:48.960 Democrats have a whole plan.
00:35:50.780 They've orchestrated the plan since they changed the rules in 2020.
00:35:54.420 And they've executed that plan.
00:35:56.100 And what have we as Republicans done?
00:35:57.920 We've been asleep behind the wheel.
00:35:59.820 And so I'm tired of waiting for the party.
00:36:01.600 I'm tired of waiting for the next excuse.
00:36:03.600 So we've launched this program called the P.A. Chase.
00:36:07.460 Folks can check it out at pachase.com.
00:36:10.420 And it's very simple.
00:36:11.580 I'm taking the Democrat tactics and I'm executing them.
00:36:15.240 We're hiring 120 full-time ballot chasers.
00:36:18.820 We're going to knock on 500,000 targeted doors of Republicans that aren't likely to vote.
00:36:24.340 But if they get a mail-in ballot, guess what?
00:36:26.560 They're going to vote.
00:36:27.600 It's exactly what the Democrats do.
00:36:29.960 And I'm looking forward to driving home some success for Donald Trump at Pennsylvania in 2024.
00:36:36.880 Cliff, we like to get right to the stone-cold truth here.
00:36:41.560 I think we would all concur that the efforts of the Republican National Committee in the past have been inadequate in this entire area.
00:36:51.600 They have new leadership there.
00:36:53.380 I have a very high regard for Lara Trump, who I know, and a very high regard for some of the political operatives who've been brought in.
00:37:03.380 Are you optimistic that the Republican national structure is going to improve their efforts in this area?
00:37:12.300 I'm very optimistic.
00:37:14.120 I think Lara Trump coming in is a huge game changer.
00:37:16.800 I'm partnering with folks like Turning Point, folks like Scott Pressler.
00:37:21.860 And to see the RNC open up and to be so willing to talk to us, to work with us, to coordinate when legal, I mean, that to me is a huge step.
00:37:32.120 Look, I always joke with people, the Democrats are serious individuals, right?
00:37:36.420 This is a business for them.
00:37:37.860 This is not something where, you know, things get missed or I's are not dotted and T's not crossed.
00:37:44.680 What happens is Republicans have failed to hire ballot chasers, which is exactly what we need to do, right?
00:37:52.100 So let me talk to you about the seriousness.
00:37:53.600 I mean, my conversations with the RNC are about how the DNC right now, at this very moment, Roger, the DNC has about 50 individuals full time just in the state of Pennsylvania.
00:38:05.500 And to me, if the White House and control of the Senate and patriots like Scott Perry's congressional seat are up in arms, Pennsylvania has to be a target.
00:38:15.680 It is the target.
00:38:17.160 And so why does the DNC have 50 full time paid staff here and we as Republicans are trying to figure it out?
00:38:23.920 So I love the reaction from the RNC.
00:38:26.200 I love having Laura Trump as somebody who understands the grassroots.
00:38:29.640 And, yes, it has made me extremely optimistic about what's going to unfold between now and November 5th.
00:38:37.160 Yeah, look, I think it is absolutely clear that mail-in ballots are unconstitutional in Pennsylvania.
00:38:44.800 They were challenged at the lower courts where they were declared unconstitutional.
00:38:50.720 They were – that decision was upheld in the middle courts that continued to hold them as violating the state constitution.
00:38:57.640 Then, of course, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which is a liberal activist and extremely partisan court, restored mail-in ballots.
00:39:07.560 I hate to be a skeptic, but I kind of wonder, as long as the Philadelphia Democratic machine has access to mail-in ballot capabilities, can we ever get an honest election?
00:39:20.440 Is there a way to trace every one of those mail-in ballots to ensure that the person who cast them, A, really exists, and, B, is really eligible to vote?
00:39:31.700 I don't think that's unreasonable.
00:39:34.480 It's a great point, Roger, and here's what I'll tell you.
00:39:36.740 You know, when I first looked at the numbers after the Oz and Fetterman race, you know, I was pretty astounded.
00:39:42.120 I was astounded by the fact that there's over a million – let me say this clearly – there is over one million registered Republicans in the state of Pennsylvania who don't vote.
00:39:53.540 They are not likely to vote.
00:39:55.260 They voted in less than two out of the last four general elections.
00:39:58.980 And so when you look at that, if you told me I was going to be focusing all of my time on the Philadelphia county and the Philadelphia suburbs, I'm from there.
00:40:08.380 My whole family's there.
00:40:09.620 But I would tell you it would be a lost cause.
00:40:12.760 The reason there is a potential for success in Pennsylvania when it comes to this chasing mail-in ballots is because those million Republicans are in a lot of counties where the folks counting the votes are Republicans.
00:40:27.620 There are so many red counties, 67 counties in Pennsylvania.
00:40:31.660 There's at least 25 of those that are Republican strongholds that had a turnout that was not anywhere near it needed to be in the 2020 election.
00:40:41.540 And so that's the focus.
00:40:42.660 It's not going into Pittsburgh.
00:40:44.180 It's not going into Philadelphia.
00:40:45.380 It's going into red counties where there are Republicans who are sitting on their hands, encouraging them, encouraging them again, coming back maybe a third or fourth time to get them to submit that ballot.
00:40:58.900 That's how you run up the score in Pennsylvania.
00:41:01.760 And to be frank, Republicans get 20 percent statewide when it comes to mail-in ballots.
00:41:07.280 One more time, 20 percent.
00:41:09.420 That's it.
00:41:10.540 Oz was down.
00:41:11.360 He was only at 20 percent going into Election Day.
00:41:14.020 There is no way to win when you are down 20 percent to 80 percent Republican to Democrat.
00:41:20.300 Our whole plan here, Roger, is not to win mail-in ballots.
00:41:23.660 But if we go from 20 percent to 33 percent, Pennsylvania becomes extremely competitive and it becomes very winnable, both for Trump, McCormick, and a lot of the folks running statewide.
00:41:35.420 That's the goal.
00:41:36.240 33 percent.
00:41:37.540 Hold me accountable to that number.
00:41:38.920 I got to tell you, Cliff, this is the most encouraging conversation that I've had regarding Pennsylvania or the election so far.
00:41:49.380 It's interesting, I remember very distinctly on election night in 2016, I was in the Austin studio of Alex Jones doing his election coverage, and I got the returns from Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade County in South Florida.
00:42:06.620 And I looked at the enormous margins that Hillary Clinton had over Trump, and I told Alex, this doesn't look good.
00:42:14.700 This doesn't look good at all.
00:42:15.820 And then, to my surprise, the rural areas in the state, in the central and northern part of the state, voted at turnout levels we had never, ever seen before, as well as Trump scoring well in the I-4 corridor in the Republican areas, allowing him to pull off a fairly comfortable victory.
00:42:37.400 So I think the situation you described is somewhat analogous, other than to say that now we can chase those mail ballots in the Republican areas, in the rural areas of the state, to get every single registered Republican, both new and old, by the way, out to vote.
00:42:56.000 I really think it is the absolute key to victory.
00:43:00.120 Overall, Cliff, just let me get your prognostication.
00:43:04.720 How are you feeling about this presidential election?
00:43:07.560 I understand polls are ethereal.
00:43:10.640 They can change on a dime.
00:43:12.700 Any poll, the best poll, the most honestly and meticulously operated and conducted poll is but a snapshot in time.
00:43:23.520 It's only good for the second in which it was taken.
00:43:26.260 How are you feeling about this election overall?
00:43:30.120 I feel great.
00:43:31.400 I mean, being here on the ground in Pennsylvania, you know, traveling across the country in a lot of these swing states, I think most people are just fed up.
00:43:39.220 You know, look, Joe Biden can't put a sentence together, let alone put a sandwich together.
00:43:43.560 I mean, the guy is completely broken.
00:43:46.220 I just I don't think in any real world these swing voters are going to be able to have any enthusiasm.
00:43:52.980 The gap of enthusiasm between Trump and Biden is just it's just bonkers.
00:43:57.760 And I think you're right, Roger.
00:43:59.840 It's going to be a turnout operation of rural counties, of red counties, of just working blue collar folks.
00:44:07.220 I mean, look at Trump's numbers with African-Americans, with Hispanic Americans.
00:44:11.200 I mean, all these minority groups are just done with the game.
00:44:15.520 I mean, who at this point, who is Joe Biden pandering to Hamas?
00:44:18.920 I mean, it's like I don't really know what his base is.
00:44:21.960 I don't really know what his message is.
00:44:23.980 I mean, they're going to spend five billion dollars saying Republicans are, you know, having a war on women.
00:44:29.380 It's like it's been the same thing now for 10 years.
00:44:32.080 So I just think they're in trouble.
00:44:34.500 I think that Trump, with these trials, is becoming more and more popular.
00:44:38.600 He's becoming more and more vindicated by all the lawfare and the BS they're putting him through.
00:44:43.360 And I just think normal people, when I sit down with everyday working class Americans, they're supporting Trump.
00:44:51.220 And I don't think that was the case in 2020.
00:44:54.340 I think Joe Biden was kind of an alternative.
00:44:56.760 Trump was bombastic, came on the scene.
00:44:58.740 We all love them, but a lot of normal folks, they bought the lies from the media.
00:45:03.460 They're not buying it anymore.
00:45:04.580 I mean, they're trying to put the guy in prison for decades over some of these just absolute frivolous lawsuits.
00:45:12.220 So I am extremely optimistic when I talk to individuals.
00:45:15.800 I get so much hope.
00:45:17.520 And the most important thing, Roger, I feel like we've finally gotten over some of the strategy woes of 2020 and 2022.
00:45:26.100 We're in full operational mode.
00:45:29.180 Folks are ready.
00:45:30.080 They're doing what they need to do.
00:45:31.240 They're raising the money.
00:45:32.240 They're getting some sweat equity, pounding on doors.
00:45:35.100 That, to me, shows that we've got all the pieces in place to deliver a victory in November.
00:45:40.820 All right.
00:45:41.460 This is the most optimistic conversation I've had in some time.
00:45:45.420 We're going to have to move along.
00:45:46.740 I want to thank Cliff Mahoney.
00:45:48.760 You can go to pachase.com, pachase.com, to learn more about the efforts in Pennsylvania to get every single Trump and Republican voter counted, placed and counted.
00:46:02.040 I should say cast and counted.
00:46:04.260 Cliff, thank you so much for joining us in the Stone Zone.
00:46:08.660 Roger, appreciate you, and thanks for being a patriot.
00:46:10.960 Y'all take care.
00:46:12.340 Thank you.
00:46:12.880 God bless you.
00:46:13.520 All right, Troy, we're going to go to one of these crass commercial messages because, well, we've got to keep the lights on here at the Stone Zone, and we appreciate your patronage for our advertisers.
00:46:28.800 We will be right back.
00:46:30.380 Joining me at the news desk now is Rebecca Walzer of walzerwealth.com.
00:46:41.380 She has been a regular guest on my TV show, Brennan House Live, for a long time.
00:46:46.420 She's not just an economics expert, but she's an attorney.
00:46:50.180 Rebecca, you have a large firm.
00:46:52.260 How many people work for your firm?
00:46:53.500 Just about 30, yes.
00:46:54.760 30, and tell me, how can people prepare for what's coming with the, well, the end of the dollar as we know it?
00:47:01.180 The end of the fiat system as we know it globally.
00:47:03.320 We are moving to hard asset-backed currencies again, thank the Lord, because fiat is where we get into all the problems.
00:47:09.580 When you have debt-based currency, you have debt-based problems, and the United States, unfortunately, since 2020, has not stopped spinning at pandemic levels.
00:47:18.060 This is systemic, and it is unsustainable, and it is coming to an end, especially with the addition of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to the BRICS nations.
00:47:26.400 This is what controls our petrodollar.
00:47:28.240 This is the threat immediately in 2024.
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00:47:55.000 In fact, recently, inflation reached its highest level in 40 years.
00:48:00.040 And on top of that, cash, which has always represented freedom and privacy, is more and more being replaced by a cashless system.
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00:48:51.420 Welcome back.
00:48:52.560 I'm Roger Stone, and you are in the Stone Zone.
00:48:55.900 We've had two great conversations tonight.
00:48:59.540 First of all, with Bubba Clem, better known as Bubba the Love Sponge, one of the most popular radio personalities at WWBA in Tampa, Florida.
00:49:11.140 But a man with firsthand knowledge of the fact that Stormy Daniels' lawyer, Keith Davidson, basically flagged the financial transaction between Michael Cohn and Stormy Daniels.
00:49:29.820 And agreed to testify earlier in the week against President Trump in return for non-prosecution of himself when he got caught in an FBI sting trying to extort Hulk Hogan, the famous wrestler, over a sex tape.
00:49:48.180 Unfortunately, this did not come out at the trial.
00:49:51.440 We also had Cliff Mahoney, one of the country's leading political organizers, a man who is committed to the return of grassroots, face-to-face, get-out-the-vote, persuasive politics.
00:50:06.620 Great conversation with Cliff.
00:50:09.240 Now, I return to my co-host, Troy Smith.
00:50:13.560 Troy, we have a few more minutes for the show.
00:50:16.240 What do you have on deck?
00:50:17.940 Well, Roger, I just wanted to ask you, you know, we talk so much to these people about door knocking, and I wanted to ask you about the voter rolls in particular, because, you know, like, we just had a conversation, you know, where we're talking about the voters in certain districts and stuff like that.
00:50:32.840 But to my knowledge, you know, a lot of these states use a thing called motor voters.
00:50:36.820 So you have people signing up for licenses every single day.
00:50:40.880 The voter rolls are always changing.
00:50:42.340 Do you think that the voter rolls are, like, a legitimate target for people to say, okay, we want to clean these up so we can have cleaner elections?
00:50:49.680 Do you think that that will actually yield cleaner elections if we go after the voter rolls?
00:50:53.680 I know for a fact, for example, that the Florida Republican Assembly, which is a volunteer organization, working with the People's Audit, and Chris Jersky, who we've been honored to have on this show, took a sophisticated program to determine whether there were bad, meaning undeliverable, addresses for voters on the Florida rolls.
00:51:20.640 They ran all 15 million records through their program, and they were able to locate one million post office certified non-deliverable addresses.
00:51:34.040 That means there's a high probability that the voter associated with that address is non-existent.
00:51:42.300 Perhaps they moved, perhaps they died, but in the great bulk of these cases, people are registered either to an address where 20, 30, 40, 50 people are registered to a single-family home,
00:51:59.700 or they are registered to a vacant lot, or they're registered to a non-residential building, and the counties have a responsibility on a county-by-county basis to remove these voters, based on bad address, from the rolls.
00:52:21.120 Now, in Florida, 62 counties so far have cooperated and removed the bad addresses, and therefore the non-existent voters.
00:52:31.000 A county board of elections could justify doing a mailing to those they believe are at bad addresses, and when those addresses are returned addressee unknown, when those letters are returned addressee unknown, they could be removed from the voter rolls.
00:52:48.000 So the technology does exist.
00:52:50.460 Here's the point, Troy.
00:52:52.440 This doesn't need to just happen in Florida.
00:52:55.760 It needs to happen in Georgia.
00:52:57.540 It needs to happen in Wisconsin.
00:52:59.380 It needs to happen in Nevada.
00:53:01.980 It needs to happen in Michigan.
00:53:05.960 It needs to happen in Pennsylvania.
00:53:08.220 It needs to happen in every swing state.
00:53:10.840 It actually needs to happen, ultimately, in every state in the country.
00:53:15.040 But, yes, it is one of the several necessary elements of election, I should say, of ballot security.
00:53:27.540 Dealing with the entire question of illegals who register to vote is a wholly different question.
00:53:34.560 Today, one can walk into the Florida Department of Motor Vehicles, fill out a voter registration form, put it in.
00:53:41.460 And you will not be asked for proof of citizenship.
00:53:44.420 You will not be asked for a birth certificate.
00:53:47.300 And you're on the voter rolls.
00:53:49.540 So it's a broken system.
00:53:51.940 We have until now in November to do our very best to clean it up.
00:53:56.220 I'm particularly impressed, by the way, Troy, with the activities of both the National Republican Assembly and specifically their Florida chapter, the Florida Republican Assembly, as well as the incredible work of Chris Jersky with the People's Audit, where they're using very innovative and completely legal technologies to clean voter lists.
00:54:21.820 Let's be very clear about one thing.
00:54:24.080 We are not seeking to disenfranchise anyone.
00:54:27.920 We are simply seeking to make sure that everyone who does vote is legally eligible to vote and that they really exist.
00:54:38.880 I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
00:54:40.900 Tomorrow on the Stone Zone, special focus on the candidacy of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and where his votes appear to be coming from.
00:54:52.960 I reiterate that I doubt he can win a general election, and I'm uncertain that he'll be on the ballot in enough states to even theoretically do so.
00:55:01.340 But he is having an impact on this race.
00:55:04.160 We're going to take a close look at that tomorrow on the Stone Zone.
00:55:08.420 So until tomorrow, on behalf of my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.news, by the way, you can go and subscribe there, and myself, I'm at RogerStone.com.
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